Not meant to offend, but Viktor, i'm still waiting for you knowledge to come around. And no, i'm not even asking you for a solution which obviously you don't know, but at least to come here and ask for excuses for you unfortunate behavior.
Probably, 20 hours is enough time to read an understand through my initial question, your good friend return-path aka envelope sender is not related to the issue i exposed. Cheers, On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Pau Peris <p...@webeloping.es> wrote: > > I'm forwarding the email to the list which was sent to rhsoft by mistake. > > Thanks. > > Sent from my Android mobile, excuse the brevity. > On Apr 1, 2014 12:42 AM, "li...@rhsoft.net" <li...@rhsoft.net> wrote: > > > > REPLY TO THE LIST > > > > Am 01.04.2014 00:16, schrieb Pau Peris: > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > I'm not native english speaker so, although HTML and top posting is not wellcome, i hope grammatical errors are not > > > taken that hard. > > > > > > Jokes a part, I really appreciate your clarification about the return-path and envelope sender, although i'm not > > > able to understand how it is related to the issue exposed. Maybe someone can explain it a little bit. > > > > > > I think the issue i'm suffering is clear. Email clients - desktop and web app ones - provide user Identity edition > > > so one can change the sender/from address and not the envelope one. Am i right here? > > > > > > Following rhsoft tips i managed to reject what i underatand is called email sender forgering through the config > > > posted on my first email of this thread. But, as I underatand, there's still a case which I do not understand at > > > all how it is working and I think it is not related to envelope sender - check logs at gist URLs peovided af first > > > email - where Postfix is not rejecting emails which from address shown at headers do not match login nor auth > > > sender maps. > > > > > > I hope someone can explain what's happening here. > > > > > > Thank you so much. > > > -- > > > Sent from my Android mobile, excuse the brevity. > > > > > > On Mar 31, 2014 10:44 PM, "li...@rhsoft.net <mailto:li...@rhsoft.net>" <li...@rhsoft.net <mailto:li...@rhsoft.net>> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Am 31.03.2014 19:26, schrieb Pau Peris: > > >> > i really do not know what to answer to you about your last email. > > >> > > > >> > Anyway, as i understand envelope sender is where a computer are going to respond an email, if needed, and the from > > >> > header is where people reply emails. If i'm wrong just an explanation will suffice. > > >> > > > >> > That said, i'm still wondering - and i do not know if anyone here is able to answer - why Mozilla Thunderbird or > > >> > Roundcube get rejected when Editing the From address - at least it looks to me the From address and not the > > >> > envelope sender > > >> > > >> there is no "looks to me" > > >> > > >> From: Pau Peris <p...@webeloping.es <mailto:p...@webeloping.es>> > > >> Sender: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org <mailto: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org> > > >> Return-Path: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org <mailto: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org> > > >> > > >> above the headers of your message, the "Return-Path" is the envelope > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Viktor Dukhovni < postfix-us...@dukhovni.org > > > <mailto:postfix-us...@dukhovni.org> > > > <mailto:postfix-us...@dukhovni.org<mailto: postfix-us...@dukhovni.org>>> > > >> > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 05:52:33PM +0200, Pau Peris wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > thanks a lot for your time and the great explanation, but i think that's > > >> >> > not what i'm looking for. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > What i'm trying to accomplish is to make sure the from address used in the > > >> >> > envelope is the same address used to login. I don't mind if they use a > > >> >> > different reply to address or something similar. > > >> >> > > >> >> Well, your previous post sure seemed to imply that you wanted to restrict > > >> >> the From: address in the message header. Do you know what the term > > >> >> "envelope sender address" means in SMTP? I think not. > > >> >> > > >> >> > I thought smtpd_sender_login_maps plus reject_unlisted_sender and > > >> >> > reject_authenticated_sender_login_mismatch would do the trick but there's a > > >> >> > case where login address is the same as the sender address - at least > > >> >> > that's what it looks like after checking the mail.log - but once i get the > > >> >> > email at Google Apps i notice the From header belongs to the forged address > > >> >> > edited through the Identity edit form which AfterLogic Webmail provides. > > >> >> > > >> >> There you go again, talking about the header From. MAKE UP YOUR MIND! > > >> >> > > >> >> > What i would like is to reject the email when the from address has been > > >> >> > edited. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I hope you can help me to get a clue here. > > >> >> > > >> >> First understand that the SMTP envelope sender address is NOT the > > >> >> same thing as the message header From: address
