Yes, see it at booth 729. Also there are two special demo's on Sunday at Hyatt Regency, Room Bryan-Beeman A on our RDA/FRBR Implementation Scenario One. I will be presenting the first one at 8:00 AM, and Robert Pillow will be doing the one at 1:30 PM.

John

On 1/15/2012 10:49 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
John, I'm dying to see how this displays. I assume this will be available for viewing at ALA?

But of course I now have another question :-) for the list. FRBR appears to have been designed on presumed database management principles, in particular relational databases. A relational database is a closed system in the sense that it needs to be coherent within that one database, but no further. Does this same model work "in the cloud" -- and by "cloud" I don't mean in a huge system like WorldCat, which is really just one giant database, I mean integrated with the Web, the real cloudy cloud.

kc

Quoting John Espley <espl...@vtls.com>:

Not sure what to say about "is there a way that is right" (I have my private opinion about that, which I'm sure most of you can guess what it is :-), but in regards to whether we can implement a system, VTLS has implemented a RDA/FRBR Implementation Scenario One in our Virtua ILS. Our system not only follows what is described in the FRBR Final Report (that is, separate, linked, Work to Expressions to Manifestations), but the system is also in line with the Final Report of the FRBR Working Group on Aggregates. That is, Virtua can have an aggregating Manifestation which is linked to its aggregating Expression to the Expressions aggregating Work as well as to the individual Work/Expressions contained in the Manifestation (see figure 3 in the Final Report). In other works the Manifestation can be linked to multiple Expressions/Works.

John Espley
VTLS Inc.

On 1/15/2012 10:13 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
Quoting Heidrun Wiesenmüller <wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de>:


When I started this discussion, I already had a strong feeling that the theory presented in the final report was somehow weird. Looking back now, I find that I had only noticed the tip of the iceberg of the "wrongness" then. Now after all the points we've covered during the discussion, I really think the final report (in the main body of the text) gets it utterly wrong and is, I'm afraid, rather pointless.

Here's the million euro question: is there a way that is right? And, bonus question: is that right way one we really think we can implement in systems?

kc



Heidrun


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