RE: [CFCDev] Nested cftransaction error in CFMX 6.1

2004-06-17 Thread Brent Nicholas
First off hello everyone, I'm new here.
As to your question I don't know I've not nested them before. You could 
however read this it may help.

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/cftransaction.html
Thanks,
BN
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Anyone ever get this error with nested transactions in 6.1?

Nested transactions are not supported.
You cannot nest a cftransaction tag within another cftransaction tag. Check 
for a cftransaction tag on the page that called the CFC.

They worked in 6.0. Anyone know of a resolution?
Thanks
Tim

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[CFCDev] Data passing to CFC's

2004-06-17 Thread Brent Nicholas
Hello all -
What is the best way to go about this, or is it just a matter of personal 
choice?

I am using a CFC to insert records of employees(emp_id), 
departments(dept_id), and a related RecordSequence(ItemSeq).

The interface may pass one set (1 employee, 1 dept for them, and the related 
record item)
ex: emp_id = BN2 / dept_id=951 / ItemSeq=45

or many sets (5 employees, a dept for each one, and the common related 
record item)
emp_id = BN2 / dept_id=951 / ItemSeq=45
emp_id = SKI / dept_id=456 / ItemSeq=45
emp_id = JPK / dept_id=912 / ItemSeq=45
emp_id = LKH / dept_id=311 / ItemSeq=45
emp_id = CAP / dept_id=952 / ItemSeq=45

The question is:
Should I loop over the data, calling the cfc each time to insert one record, 
or place the contents in an array of structures and pass the whole thing to 
the CFC and let it do the work? or other?

Thanks,
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[CFCDev] OT: Code Visualization

2004-07-23 Thread Brent Nicholas
All, This is a bit OT but maybe with all the expertise in the room maybe 
people could offer some opinions.

Where I work we build applications with CFMX using CFC's, Fusebox2/3, and a 
hodge-podge of other techniques depending on what the task at hand is. Most 
of the applications are getting to be HUGE to say the least. We do our best 
to factor them down to modules that interact with the whole system to keep 
it manageable, but still the code depth (calls to includes, CFC's and custom 
tags) can get deep when it comes to long user processes (Entering a business 
lead with full details.) or reporting the data from these large 
applications.

At times I find that the spec has totally morphed by the time we are close 
to launch (aka an app with a lot of 'stuff' bolted on). At times it gets to 
the point where it needs to be totally re-written, or I should say 
re-organized and tweaked since most of the code does what you want, but it 
could be structured better for future growth. I know the spec should be in 
stone, but since we build software to help the company manage its self at 
the 'speed of business' we need to respond to the changing needs or 
mis-understood req's.

Either way, where I'm going with this is to ask: How do you look at your 
code to re-organize it, tweak it, and get a birds eye view of what it's 
doing and how it's structured? Right now I print it all out, tape the sheets 
together into TP Code as I call it. Then I out line blocks, cut it up with 
scissors, re-arrange them and so on. I also have to print my CFC docs and 
CFC code and do the same. This works, but isn't really all that 'smooth' 
productivity wise and my boss laughs at me a lot asking where my Elmers 
paste is and if I ate it all. :)

Are there any tools to help me view what is in place and do these things on 
the computer instead of sprawled out on the floor of a conference room? A 
touch screen the size of my wall would be great.. but I doubt that will 
happen anytime soon.

Thanks,
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[CFCDev] CFC's Refreshing and MX 6.1

2004-07-26 Thread Brent Nicholas
All -
I'm wondering if anyone has run across this yet.
I am working on my cfc's on the dev server. When I run the code that uses 
them, it's as if the changes were never made to the CFC file (even though 
the file date changes). I even went from the CFC returning a query to 
passing back a string just to see if it might knock something loose. Only if 
I call the CFC incorrectly in the invokation does it fail. All other code 
around it updates fine.

I just updated from MX6.0 to MX6.1 this morning, but it's never made things 
weird before?? I'm pretty sure it worked fine after I did the update too. I 
was doing some coding right afterwards. I then went to lunch.. and blammo it 
was doign this when I came back.

Ideas?
Thanks,
Brent Nicholas
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Ricardo Inc.
Detroit Technical Center
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Re: [CFCDev] CFC's Refreshing and MX 6.1

2004-07-26 Thread Brent Nicholas
Ok, that did it.
Thanks Ben.
BN
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I am working on my cfc's on the dev server. When I run the code that uses 
them, it's as if the changes were never made to the CFC file (even though 
the file date changes).
Log into your CF admin, and click Caching on the left. Save Class Files 
needs to be unchecked on your dev machine.

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RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
Hey -
We use MS-VSS here, I don't know about the 5K price. We use it for 3 
developers and I don't think it cost that much.

I like it alot, it's very easy to use and HomeSite can leverage it. It also 
does everything you were looking for. As you prolly already know.

I really dig the way you can just grab the file db and drop it on a new VSS 
server and go.

Hope that was helpfull.
BN
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Any suggestions on source control products?
I have looked into:
- Visual Source Safe ($5000+)
-CVS
-CVS NT
-Tortoise
-WIN CVS
What is everyone using and how good is it???
Functionality I prefer:
-Ability to check-in / out files
-History of changes
-Integration w/ Homesite is a plus but not required.
The first time I tried MS Visual SS it was very easy to integrate with.
I have tried using CVS, but had problems getting everything setup
smoothly.
Management would rather take the free choice over the expensive one.
Suggestions please!!!
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RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
2 cents -
I found this thread to be of value. It helped me to become aware of other 
VersionControl systems.
I also agree with your position on short burst threads.

BN
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As one of the list admins here - I think the rule has always been - it is 
ok
to go OT for short bursts, but prolonged activity should be avoided. This
was exactly that, a short burt of posts, and Officially I don't mind. 
That
being said, if people object, I ask that you please email myself and Rob
Brooks-Bilson offlist and let us know.

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 I'm going to kick myself for pursuing this, but CFCDev is not
 a general-purpose CF list.  There are lots of other places
 for that -- this list was created specifically for talking
 about CFC development and associated things (like OO concepts
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RE: [CFCDev] CFC Cohesion

2004-11-09 Thread Brent Nicholas
For the calculations that are repetitive, would a UDF be a good solution? Or 
does that move us away from the OO goal?

BN
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but if you create a reference to the
cfc object in memory with cfobject, or the createObject function, you can
refer to the object without recreating the object, but run functions from
within the object with very little overhead.
If you'd like to see how one OO solution organizes its function calls, take
a look at Jakarta's Commons Math project
(http://jakarta.apache.org/~psteitz/commons-math-1.0-RC1/).
Wayne

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So the component would have an init() function that would process all
calculations that have other calculations depend on them?
Since the real app has around 30 calculations (and growing!) with some
fairly complex relationships, this might create some unnecessary(?)
overhead.
Anyway, from what you say, it sounds like it's okay practice to dump them
all in one CFC and then just have the component call its own methods as
needed for each calculation - I think... :)
Cheers,
Sam
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I'm pretty much a beginner myself, but as a general plan, i would do
calculation A on the init, store it in the variables scope, and then access
result A for functions B, C, D and E, if that makes sense. Store result B 
in
variables scope and use it for C, etc.

From what you describe, it seems you just need to make sure that the
obj is
initialized to the point where it can handle any of those functions. It
doesn't seem to me like you'd need to make separate objects, necessarily, 
to
have this FinancialObj be cohesive, it does financial calculations.

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I'm working on a small financial site that uses a lot of financial formulae
(duh).  I'm also an OO newbie and trying to get up to speed on the
methodology with this project (using machii).
Since a lot of the financial formulae are dependent upon each other, one of
the troubles I'm having is with the separation of the business logic into
small, 'do one thing well' type pieces.
For example, if there are 5 calculations that need to be made: A, B, C, D
and E:
A is a simple calculation on values stored in the db B uses A values to 
make
its calculation C uses A and B values, and the previous date's value of C
for its calculation Etc.

With this set up I'm having difficulty creating cohesive objects.  There
seems too much dependency between each calculation to really separate them.
Separating them into individual components just seems to create a string of
dependent objects.
Perhaps I should be creating parent objects that tie these smaller
calculation objects together?
Any advice appreciated.
Cheers,
Sam

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[CFCDev] CFC Error - Name Can't be empty

2004-11-12 Thread Brent Nicholas
Ok, so I've run into this from time to time and I can never seem to really 
figure it out.

I'm not passing WorkFlowCode param in and I shouldn't need to but it errors 
out. Something obvious I'm overlooking?

It throws up on: cfif ARGUMENTS.WorkFlowCode neq 
Code:
!--- GetAuditWorkflow ---
cffunction name=GetAuditWorkflow access=public returntype=query 
output=No displayname=Get workflow action id's and people for  audit. 
hint=Get workflow action id's and people for audit and workflow type.

cfargument name=DATASOURCE type=string required=Yes default=
cfargument name=IawpAuditSeq required=Yes type=string
cfargument name=WorkFlowCode required=No default= type=string
cfquery name=GetAuditWorkflow datasource=#ARGUMENTS.datasource#
SELECT PERSON_ID
,WORKFLOW_ACTION_ID
,CREATED_BY
FROM IAWP_WORKFLOW
WHERE IAWP_AUDIT_SEQ = '#ARGUMENTS.IawpAuditSeq#'
cfif ARGUMENTS.WorkFlowCode neq 
AND WORKFLOW_CODE = '#ARGUMENTS.WorkFlowCode#'
/cfif
/cfquery
cfreturn GetAuditWorkflow
/cffunction
Thanks for your time -
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[CFCDev] CFC Not Found

2004-11-16 Thread Brent Nicholas
All -
Another dumb question making me feel like a newbie... 'sigh'...  I'm 
completely out of ideas though.

Anyway, I get an error:
Could not find the ColdFusion Component com.Ricardo.TravelRequest.Security
I've checked:
It does exist
It is in the right folder (/com/Ricardo/TravelRequest/Security.cfc)
It is named properly in the file name and in the DisplayName property of the 
component  body.
I have restarted the CF service and the server.

It doesn't show up in the CFC Browser either??
I had this issue when I first started with CFC's back in March, but never 
since then.

I do have another CFC named Security, in another folder 
com.Ricardo.InternalAudit.Security or 
/com/Ricardo/InternalAudit/Security.cfc (however you like to think about 
it)

Thoughts?
Thanks,
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:50:03 -0500, John D Farrar
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 Also, who cares if they know the settings names inside the object, they
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The CFC may be protected against outside code messing with its state.
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Most of the time I'm not worried about code using my CFC incorrectly*
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work. It's often impossible.) So I seperate the CFC into two parts.
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 * As a courtesy to the programmers using the CFC (myself always
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RE: [CFCDev] CFC Not Found

2004-11-16 Thread Brent Nicholas
I've got a few replies thus far, thanks for those.
I'm not sure what the error was but, I deleted the files. Copied the base 
cfc framework from another security file and pasted it into a new document. 
Then renamed the CFC and it's methods. I then saved it as a new filename.

It then showed up in the CFC Browser.
I then renamed the cfc and it's methods back to what they were from the 
original pasted copy.

This again showed up in the CFC Browser unlike the previous times, thus the 
need for the post.

The common thread was that last time when it was not working, I had copied 
the file from an other CFC folder, pasted it into my current project folder 
and began to edit it. That's when it wouldn't show up in the CFC browser for 
what ever reason. When the CFC was created from a new doc, but with 
identical contents it worked fine.

BN
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RE: [CFCDev] Arrays and Web Services

2004-12-01 Thread Brent Nicholas
I was ok just creating an array that CF would make by default.
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Howdy,
I have a web service that requires an array of strings as an input.  Below
is a snipet from the WSDL (let me know if you need more).
schema xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
targetNamespace=http://enya/webservice/services/CourtScheduleAccess;
import
namespace=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding//
complexType name=ArrayOf_xsd_string
complexContent
restriction base=soapenc:Array
attribute
ref=soapenc:arrayType wsdl:arrayType=xsd:string[]/
/restriction
/complexContent
/complexType
/schema
/wsdl:types
wsdl:message name=assignActivityRequest
wsdl:part name=employeeReferences
type=impl:ArrayOf_xsd_string/
wsdl:part name=startDateTime type=xsd:dateTime/
wsdl:part name=endDateTime type=xsd:dateTime/
wsdl:part name=activityName type=xsd:string/
wsdl:part name=assignmentNote type=xsd:string/
/wsdl:message
Will I need to cast a CF array to a speciffc type, or should I be fine
passing a CF array to the Web Service?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Take care,
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RE: [CFCDev] Arrays and Web Services

2004-12-02 Thread Brent Nicholas
Yeah, I'm not sure about the rest you have there.
I just created an array, passed it to the WebService on JRun...  and it was 
good. ;) Then I rested.

BN

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Thanks for the info, I was looking at the livedocs, and they mentioned that
if the array if of consistent data types, CF will automatically map to an
array of x[] type?  The livedocs were referencing java data types, but I am
guessing it would be  the same for WS?
Thanks again,
Justin
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I was ok just creating an array that CF would make by default.
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Howdy,

I have a web service that requires an array of strings as an input.  
Below
is a snipet from the WSDL (let me know if you need more).

schema xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
targetNamespace=http://enya/webservice/services/CourtScheduleAccess;
		import
namespace=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding//
			complexType name=ArrayOf_xsd_string
complexContent
	restriction base=soapenc:Array
		attribute
ref=soapenc:arrayType wsdl:arrayType=xsd:string[]/
	/restriction
/complexContent
			/complexType
		/schema
/wsdl:types

wsdl:message name=assignActivityRequest
		wsdl:part name=employeeReferences
type=impl:ArrayOf_xsd_string/
		wsdl:part name=startDateTime type=xsd:dateTime/
		wsdl:part name=endDateTime type=xsd:dateTime/
		wsdl:part name=activityName type=xsd:string/
		wsdl:part name=assignmentNote type=xsd:string/
/wsdl:message

Will I need to cast a CF array to a speciffc type, or should I be fine
passing a CF array to the Web Service?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Take care,

Justin
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RE: [CFCDev] Upload Tab Delimited file

2004-12-07 Thread Brent Nicholas
There was also a good article on this in the most recent CF Dev Jounal, 
called Thinking Outside the Table by Tom Peer. That is if you wish to stay 
in CF when doing this.

Also, if your Oracle table is multi-master replicated be sure to 'commit' 
after every insert or it will quesk (sp?).

BN
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What's the best approach to uploading a tab delimited file using 
ColdFusion?
I'm working in an Oracle environment and I'm new to Oracle.  So, for right
now I have to use ColdFusion.  I am using cfhttp to turn file into a
recordset.  I'm looping over the recordset and am doing an insert statement
for each record.  This is timing out and seems overkill.  Is there a way to
do a bulk insert from a recordset into a table?


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RE: [CFCDev] sending complex types to webservices

2004-12-09 Thread Brent Nicholas
I'm just a bit unclear on what you are doing, I consume WebServices here at 
work using a CFC. We have a web service that requires data be passed in as 
an array of structs. it works fine, but I know nothing about the web service 
side of things.

Other thing that comes to mind is, Are you setting the correct returntype?
Heres the code I use to talk to the web service: (all inside a CFC in a 
function block)

---code start---
CFSET ccUsers = ArrayNew(1)
CFSET ccCount = 1
cfloop list=#ARGUMENTS.ccUsers# index=iCC delimiters=,
CFSET userCC = structNew()
CFSET   userCC.userName = iCC
CFSET   ccUsers[ccCount] = userCC
CFSET ccCount = ccCount + 1
/cfloop
cfscript
user = structNew();
user.userName = ARGUMENTS.CreatedBy;
approver = structNew();
approver.userName = ARGUMENTS.Recipient;
recipients = ArrayNew(1);
recipients[1] = approver;
createActionRequestBean = structNew();
createActionRequestBean.actionName = ARGUMENTS.actionName;
createActionRequestBean.applicationID = ARGUMENTS.applicationID;
createActionRequestBean.applicationLink = ARGUMENTS.approvalURL;
createActionRequestBean.applicationName = 
ARGUMENTS.applicationName;
		createActionRequestBean.rejectionMode = ARGUMENTS.rejectionMode;
		createActionRequestBean.workFlowType = ARGUMENTS.workFlowType;
		createActionRequestBean.extraEmailBody = ARGUMENTS.note;
		createActionRequestBean.reminderPeriod = 
DateAdd(h,ARGUMENTS.reminderPeriod,createDate(1970, 1, 7));
		createActionRequestBean.rolloverPeriod = ARGUMENTS.rolloverPeriod;
		createActionRequestBean.startDate = now();
		createActionRequestBean.startRolloverDate = ARGUMENTS.startRolloverDate;

createActionRequestBean.user = user;
createActionRequestBean.recipients = recipients;
createActionRequestBean.ccUsers = ccUsers;
ws = createObject(webservice, #ARGUMENTS.WebServiceSource#);
response = ws.CreateAction(createActionRequestBean);
/cfscript
---code end---

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As per the CF docs, I'm trying to construct a CFC to represent the transfer
objects for a webservice I am invoking.
And it doesn't work, but a struct *with identical fields to the CFCs
cfproperty tags* does !
The CFC version fails on the cfinvoke tag with
Could not perform web service invocation createZone because
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: argument type mismatch
Does cfinvoke expect a struct rather than 'any' type or something ?
There are indications on
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/webser39.htm
that other people have had the same problem.
I suppose I could give my TO CFC a .toStruct(), but that isn't right 
according
to the docs - argh !

Anyone else consuming web services with complex arguments ?
The stuct:
struct
ALARMRANGE  0
CHANGEDATE  0
ID  -1
NAMEHead Office ?, Harpenden
OWNERID 426
OWNERTYPE   1
PLATFORMID  0
VERSION 0
ZONEACTIVE  1
ZONETYPE1
The CFC:
component com.bluefinger.saffire.zone.TO
NAME 	Head Office ?, Harpenden
CHANGEDATE 	0
OWNERID 	426
PLATFORMID 	0
ZONEACTIVE 	1
VERSION 	0
ID 	-1
ZONETYPE 	1
OWNERTYPE 	1
ALARMRANGE 	0
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[CFCDev] WebService

2005-01-17 Thread Brent Nicholas
All -
I apologize for being off topic, but the DevForum is down on Macromedia's CF 
Dev site.
Is there another general CFMX questions forum similiar to this? (Less 
chat/more results.)

Ok, the question.
I always get this after I restart the CFMX service when calling a web 
service.

Message: Could not generate stub objects for web service invocation.
Detail: Name: WorkFlow. WSDL: http://r-world/services/WorkFlowService?wsdl. 
org.xml.sax.SAXException: Fatal Error: URI=null Line=1: Missing whitespace 
before SYSTEM literal URI. It is recommended that you use a web browser to 
retrieve and examine the requested WSDL document for correctness. If the 
requested WSDL document can't be retrieved or it is dynamically generated, 
it is likely that the target web service has programming errors.

I've talked to the CF Support team at Macromedia through our service plan to 
no avail.

So I'm left with a SchedTask that checks the service every ten mins and 
refreshes it if it fails.

Problem is I don't know how to programticly refresh a web service in CFMX.
I tried: 
http://dtc-rnet/cfide/administrator/extensions/webservices.cfm?wsname=Workflowaction=refreshcfadminPassword=PassWordHere

But I get the password screen instead of loging in and refreshing.
Other thoughts?
Thanks again -
Brent Nicholas
Application Architect / Developer
Ricardo Inc.
Detroit Technical Center
4 Ricardo Drive
Van Buren Township, MI 48111
phone 734.394.3808  fax 734.394.3838
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [CFCDev] WebService

2005-01-18 Thread Brent Nicholas
This was the answer exactly, thank you.
BN
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I don't know if this will help you but a couple months back someone
posted a link to this blog post that discusses programatic refresh of
web services:
http://www.bpurcell.org/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=965
I have not read it though so, I'm just repeating :O)
Hope it helps.
Bill
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:55:30 -0500, Brent Nicholas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All -

 I apologize for being off topic, but the DevForum is down on 
Macromedia's CF
 Dev site.
 Is there another general CFMX questions forum similiar to this? (Less
 chat/more results.)

 Ok, the question.

 I always get this after I restart the CFMX service when calling a web
 service.

 Message: Could not generate stub objects for web service invocation.

 Detail: Name: WorkFlow. WSDL: 
http://r-world/services/WorkFlowService?wsdl.
 org.xml.sax.SAXException: Fatal Error: URI=null Line=1: Missing 
whitespace
 before SYSTEM literal URI. It is recommended that you use a web browser 
to
 retrieve and examine the requested WSDL document for correctness. If the
 requested WSDL document can't be retrieved or it is dynamically 
generated,
 it is likely that the target web service has programming errors.

 I've talked to the CF Support team at Macromedia through our service 
plan to
 no avail.

 So I'm left with a SchedTask that checks the service every ten mins and
 refreshes it if it fails.

 Problem is I don't know how to programticly refresh a web service in 
CFMX.

 I tried:
 
http://dtc-rnet/cfide/administrator/extensions/webservices.cfm?wsname=Workflowaction=refreshcfadminPassword=PassWordHere

 But I get the password screen instead of loging in and refreshing.

 Other thoughts?

 Thanks again -

 Brent Nicholas
 Application Architect / Developer
 Ricardo Inc.
 Detroit Technical Center
 4 Ricardo Drive
 Van Buren Township, MI 48111
 phone 734.394.3808  fax 734.394.3838
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.ricardo.com
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Re: [CFCDev] cfc organisation

2005-03-09 Thread Brent Nicholas
No comment on the calling of the methods, but at work I keep all the cfc's 
in a folder struct like:

com.Ricardo.[NameOfApp].[cfcName]
ex:
com.Ricardo.InternalAudit.Audit
com.Ricardo.InternalAudit.AuditParticipants
com.Ricardo.TravelRequest.Hotel
com.Ricardo.TravelRequest.Car
com.Ricardo.TravelRequest.Airports
com.Ricardo.TravelRequest.TravelRequest
Keeping your CFC's clean and on context is important, as the app grows at 
design time it remains easy to know what's where.

There is some debate here about if we should just keep the cfc's for each 
app in the folders with the dsp_ (display files) for that app. Personally 
I'm against this. I prefer a structure of organizational resources seperate 
from the UI.

2cents
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Duncan:
As long as you have an instance of the CFC to work with, you can call
any method as many times as you want.
Sorting is more of preference. I know a lot of people tend to keep
keep all of there CFCs in one folder that is mapped in the cfadmin.
Good luck!
-Jeff
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 Hi everyone,

 I am just trying to get to grips with CFC's and I just took one of our
 CustomTags from a CF4.5 app and made it in to a CFC for a v7 app.

 First of all may I say how easy it was to make it. Just brilliant.

 The cfc in question takes a struct (like attributes) and converts all
 the key value pairs in it to a URL of Form hidden fields format for
 easy inclusion in a href or form.  You can specify exceptions that
 dont get converted as well.

 Now this could get used 3 or 4 times in a request and I was wondering
 if I can invoke it once and then call upon the method as and when I
 need it, but with different variables. Maybe chuck it in at
 application start then use it during a request?

 Second, I was wondering about how to 'file' my CFC's (I think the
 number of them will grow very rapidly now I have done 1!).  A lot of
 them will be used in different apps around my organisation and would
 probably need to be shared across server instances too.  Any
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[CFCDev] OT: Laszlo

2005-03-21 Thread Brent Nicholas
I just discovered this, upon first glance and a bit of digging into it seems 
like a very cool tool. We'll see...

Anyone else have any experience with it?
http://www.laszlosystems.com
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Re: [CFCDev]

2005-04-20 Thread Brent Nicholas
It's prolly just a virus??
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glad someone asked - I didn't know what he was talking about either :O)
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 What Zip are you referring to? I don't see a Zip on this end.

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RE: [CFCDev] CFC Analysis

2005-11-18 Thread Brent Nicholas

Baz-

I use freemind (freemind.sourceforge.net) to plan and refactor, then write 
the CFC's.


Also a good place for Good Practices in CFC OO are Hal Helm's articles 
(www.halhelms.com), Ben Forta has also writen some good articles at 
(www.forta.com, and www.macromedia.com).


By the way, nice site

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I am curious about what are some of the tools and diagram types that people
are using to design and conceptualize the creation and interaction of CFCs
within a system?

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Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Brent Nicholas
As I already told Hal, I think what you are doing with the recordings is 
great. I listen to them often while driving, though the wife forbids me from 
them when she's in the car... ;))


2cents.
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RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Brent Nicholas

Jason -

Honestly, if your company is trying to get all excited about beating Google, 
but not having an internal plan already about how to do it, then you might 
consider keeping your eye on the job market.


Now if the goal is to have a better internal search engine, then you should 
consider the Google Appliance, then spend the next few years you are with 
the company researching a better system to anaylize, store, retrieve and 
relate data. Keep in mind they have spents billions and have many many PHD's 
working for them.


2cents from a guy who used to work at an app dev co selling tickets to the 
moon.


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Hi,

My company wants me to build a web search engine to beat google's search.
Should I use CFCs for this project or are they too slow? Also can anyone
point me to an article that talks about how google works. I'd like to start
with what they've done and improve upon it.

I've already completed the first half of the project (the front-end 
search

page). I just need the backend that performs the actual searching. My
other team member is working on the web crawling aspects.

Thanks in advance,

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[CFCDev] Frameworks

2006-01-30 Thread Brent Nicholas

All -

I'm building a list of frameworks to study up on and (gasp) maybe build a 
features matrix, but primarily get familiar so I know how to identify when 
to use which framework.


Thus far I have:

FuseBox
ColdSpring
MachII
Model-Glue
Tartan

Am I missing any majors that people know of?

Thanks,

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Re: [CFCDev] Frameworks

2006-01-31 Thread Brent Nicholas
Thanks everyone for your responses. There's alot out there I had no idea 
about.


Thanks,

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On 1/30/06, Brent Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All -

 I'm building a list of frameworks to study up on and (gasp) maybe build 
a
 features matrix, but primarily get familiar so I know how to identify 
when

 to use which framework.

 Thus far I have:

 FuseBox
 ColdSpring
 MachII
 Model-Glue
 Tartan

 Am I missing any majors that people know of?


Sean Corfield does an excellent job in his frameworks presentation of
covering the major variations. His blog in general is a treasure trove
for this type of information:

http://www.corfield.org/blog/index.cfm

and his frameworks talk specifically is at:

http://corfield.org/articles/frameworks_code.zip
and
http://corfield.org/articles/frameworks.pdf

Also (and I promise I don't work for Sean, so this isn't some
marketing e-mail I'm doing for him!), he's going around doing a new
talk on on Objects and Persistence at various CFUGs and CFUNITED that
covers things like Arf!, Reactor, etc.

I only point all of this out because he's done a tremendous amount of
leg work for you already on this subject, and while you should
always do your own research, it's always nice to have a base level of
information to start with.

Hope this helps?

Regards,
Dave.


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Re: [CFCDev] Excel CSV Parsing

2006-03-06 Thread Brent Nicholas
Do you have the option of using a different delimiter? Or is this after the 
fact and there is no going back? Anyway, we alway pick a really odd 
delimiter that is very unlikely to show up on data.


2 cents.

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If you're looking to do a one time or occasional import, you could look at 
using Navicat, which is an excellent MySQL GUI.


www.navicat.com

Dustin Tinney wrote:

I've recently been trying to do a large import of a Excel or CSV file
generated from Excel.  My efforts thus far have not been good and it's
looking like I will have to reinvent the wheel.

I have yet to find a good article or paper on 1 Dynamic Datasources
using coldfusions built in support of the ODBC Socket with excel.  I
was able to get my host to add a DNS of this type but haven't had
any luck getting a query to run using it.

So after giving up on the ODBC Socket I figured I'd google my luck on
CSV and coldfusion.  I have yet to find some one who does NOT assume
that the data won't contain a comma.  Which to me just seems
ridiculous.  Excel export to CSV puts 's around rows with commas

Example:
foo, bar, foo, bar

would be 3 items the first being foo comma bar.  However I have yet to
find a good parser already written either in a UDF or even a CFC for
any of this.

If any one has any help out there it's much appreciated


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[CFCDev] OT: Sending Files to Browsers

2006-03-16 Thread Brent Nicholas
Firstly - Sorry for sending an OT item to this list. I kinda feel we have a 
good group of experts here, so I'm hoping someone will have some guidance.


The issue:
When users try to download files they work nearly all the time, though today 
it seems files that are above 30MB (rough estimate) fail when downloaded. CF 
sends the most basic error message: An error has occurred. That's it, no 
line number, nothing.


We've narrowed it to what we think is the issue but I'm still skeptical if 
it's really the problem, though most likely. This being the size of the 
file, due to using CFFILE action=read.


Now, I'm guessing reading a big file into CF to then send out to the browser 
is a bad thing, due to the load on the memory. Does any one have any 
guidance on a better way to send the file to the browser?


Here is the code I use to send the file to the browser, the variable results 
are below. The goal is to prevent the user from having access to the path. 
They just get sent the file.


cffile action=read 
file=#PrimaryDrive##GetFolderPath.FOLDER_PATH##GetFileDetails.FILE_NAME# 
variable=FileContent
cfheader NAME=Content-disposition 
VALUE=inline;filename=#GetFileDetails.FILE_NAME#

cfcontent type=#GetFileDetails.FILE_MIME#
cfoutput#FileContent#/cfoutput

CFFILE PATH: D:\ProjectFiles\52070G\CYLINDERBLOCK\cylblockcast130306.zip
CFHEADER VALUE: inline;filename=cylblockcast130306.zip
CFCONTENT TYPE: application/x-zip-compressed

As I said works almost all the time, except on large files. At least that's 
the pattern so far.


Thanks for an help you might be able to offer,

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Re: [CFCDev] OT: Sending Files to Browsers

2006-03-16 Thread Brent Nicholas

- sheepish grin - DOH!

Thanks everyone for the reply.

Yeah, feeling kinda silly for not seeing that right off.

It does work, however the data is now being written directly to the browser, 
instead of prompting you to Open or Save as it used to. I'll figure it out 
though..


Thanks again,

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Detroit Technical Center
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RE: [CFCDev] OT: Sending Files to Browsers

2006-03-16 Thread Brent Nicholas

Phil / All -

Thanks - I got it. Works like a charm and the best part is now that I'm not 
doing CFFILE reads the performance of the site is even better. YEAH!


Thanks again -

BN


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RE: Re: [CFCDev] Verity Search Engine

2006-06-07 Thread Brent Nicholas
If you need any help with setting up the K2 server drop me a line. I can send 
you my notes. I'd send em' not but they are at work.

BN

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 Ray has some good verity stuff. I implemented it in about 20 minutes. It's 
 pretty awesome
 http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2005/8/17/Macrochat-Recording
 http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2005/8/17/Verity-Macrochat-Presentation-Zip
 hth,
 Will
 Joshua Scott wrote:
 All,
 Can anyone point me to some good info on using the CF verity searching. I am 
 building a CMS and want to see if this would be the best way to do site 
 searches.
 I know this is a off topic, but I would appreciate any advice.
 Thanks,
 Josh
 
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[CFCDev] OT: Job in DC

2006-06-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
Off topic.. sorry

Very quickly I had to turn down work in the DC area (I decided to move to 
Denver.) so it's open to other candidates. 

It is through a head hunter so you'll have to deal with their hoo-haa, but I 
didn't think they were too bad.

Job is contract with true intent to hire on perm, job is strong CFMX, CSS, 508.

I went through 3 interviews with them so nothing is shady about this, they are 
very nice people who just need to get the job done and can;t find CF'ers, it 
also is paying about 95K and working for the government.

Let me know, I'll pass your data along. Ideal candiate is in the DC area or 
VERY serious about moving there.

Thanks,

BN

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[CFCDEV] OT: CFLogin

2006-09-14 Thread Brent Nicholas


Before I go posting a huge OT item, I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in helping out with a CFLOGIN issue I'm having.

I'm pretty sure it's something with the session or something else obvious... ??

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RE: [CFCDEV] pls forgiv OT: layer7 switches and sessions - is this correct?

2006-09-19 Thread Brent Nicholas


I hate answering with "I thinks.." but I do recall in the Advanced CF Book for CF4.5 it had write up's oncluster cats in it for load balancing, I recall it talked about different techniques for making sessions portable. I'm guessing the new Advanced CF books might too.

If that's of help anyway.Brent Nicholas -[EMAIL PROTECTED]"I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time."-- Man in Black - Princess Bride



 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:01:43 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: [CFCDEV] pls forgiv OT: layer7 switches and sessions - is this correct?  I'msorrytopostthisquestionherebutmyregularCFlistdoesn't seemtohavehadmuchexperianceinthisareaandI'mhopingsomeone herehas.myknowledgeofloadbalancingregardingapplication archetectureisrudamentary(atbest)   we'vegotaseriesofappsonclustersoftwoservers(each)withload balancingusingLayer7switches.worksgreatifonemachineget's flakey,etc.thishasallbeendonebeforeIarrived.  onethingthatI'mabitpuzzledover,though,isalltheappshave beendesignedwithouttheuseofsessionscope.infactgreatreamsof codehavebeenwrittentohandleauthorisationviacustomISAPI componentsandheaderstogetaroundthis,andisdoneonevery request.  italsomeansthatideasofusingapplication-orserver-scoped collectionsofdata(orsingletoncomponentswithstate)can'tbeused (theycouldexistononeserverandnotontheother).  isthiscorrect?usingloadbalancinglikethisprecludestheuseof sharedscopeswhenit'sneededacrossmachines?  isthereanyeasyway**aroundthis?  note:theseboxesareallCF6.1,althoughIamalwayslookingforgood reasonstogetthebosstoupgrade.  (**somethingsimplierthan,say,gettingwebservicesand/orgateways tocommunicatebetweenmachines-I'mthinkingoftheserver-scoped singletonsholdingdata)  thankforyourhelp barry.b   Youaresubscribedtocfcdev.Tounsubscribe,pleasefollowtheinstructionsathttp://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm  CFCDevissupportedby: KatapultMedia,Inc. Wearecoolcodegeekslookingforfunprojectstorock! www.katapultmedia.com  AnarchiveoftheCFCDevlistisavailableatwww.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org 

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[CFCDEV] Semi-OT: Error catching and CFC's

2006-09-21 Thread Brent Nicholas


I'm wondering what techniques people have used to do error catching and the logging of those errors to a DB.

Right now I wrap a CFC call with try/catch in my action template, if it fails I have a custom tag that is called that breaks the 'cfcatch' variable scope into it's parts and builds a string, but only so far as the simple cfcatch keys like 'type'. These are just plain text vs. structures like 'tagContext'.I then take thatstring and toss it into the db with some other needed data.

Anyone using any other techniques to get this data and save it?

I've not yet placed error catching into the CFC's since it seems to bubble up into the calling template.

Thanks,Brent Nicholas -[EMAIL PROTECTED]"I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time."-- Man in Black - Princess Bride

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RE: [CFCDEV] Semi-OT: Error catching and CFC's

2006-09-21 Thread Brent Nicholas


Sammy -
Hey thanks for the response.

I put it in the db so that it can be analyzed at a later date for quality, execs like to see fancy support stuff that really shows resolution, and in group dev/support environments errors can be assigned and solutions tracked.

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:17:48 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: cfcdev@cfczone.orgSubject: Re: [CFCDEV] Semi-OT: Error catching and CFC's
One method I've seen is to basically cfinclude the requested file in the Application.cfm (then cfabort at the end of the file) and wrap that in try/catch. I deal with a ton of legacy code, so I haven't tried anything similar in Application.cfc, but I would imagine its would be possible. I've never logged it to a db, I like to get them in my inbox so I just email it to myself. Out of curiousity, what benefits have you experienced in logging it to a DB?-SamBrent Nicholas wrote: 


I'm wondering what techniques people have used to do error catching and the logging of those errors to a DB.Right now I wrap a CFC call with try/catch in my action template, if it fails I have a custom tag that is called that breaks the 'cfcatch' variable scope into it's parts and builds a string, but only so far as the simple cfcatch keys like 'type'. These are just plain text vs. structures like 'tagContext'.I then take thatstring and toss it into the db with some other needed data.Anyone using any other techniques to get this data and save it?I've not yet placed error catching into the CFC's since it seems to bubble up into the calling template.Thanks,Brent Nicholas -[EMAIL PROTECTED]"I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time."-- Man in Black - Princess BrideYou are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions at http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfmCFCDev is supported by:Katapult Media, Inc.We are cool code geeks looking for fun projects to rock!www.katapultmedia.comAn archive of the CFCDev list is available at www.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions at http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfmCFCDev is supported by:Katapult Media, Inc.We are cool code geeks looking for fun projects to rock!www.katapultmedia.comAn archive of the CFCDev list is available at www.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org

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[CFCDEV] CFC Image Manipulate / Image Object Question

2006-10-16 Thread Brent Nicholas


I know this question is a bit 'product specific' but I'm wondering about what 'might' be a CFC centric question.

I'll preface this with the main question up front: "So in short I'm wondering if this is maybe more an issue of understanding variables, scopes and CFC's? Or if the CFC needs to be extended to get the imagefile and return it as an object it can use as illustrated below in the multiple process example."

Essentially there is a CFC out there called "image.cfc v2.00b3, written by Rick Root ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" (I emailed him... no reply)
URL: http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/

This CFC allows you to manipulate images, it can be run 'process by process' (Seperate processes example below)bypassing in an image location and output destination, or can use a reference (Multiple Processes example below)to the image object returned by the CFC. So I'm kind of at a chicken and the egg issue.

I'm trying to allow the user to choose one of many image processing options, but am unsure what and how many they may choose. I could write a lot of code for each action to determine if that action was selected and then yet more code to reuse the image object passed back by the cfc to use on the next selected option. This seems very dumb.

I'd rather use the CFC to load the image into it's variable scope ("result.img")and then toprocess by whatwas selected I can just throw the object against the function call.

Examples of his code is at:
http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/example.cfm
---
OR I'll include them;
Seperate processes:
cfset imagecfc = createObject("component","image") 
cfset results2 = imageCFC.scaleX("", "#ExpandPath(".")#/original.jpg", "#ExpandPath(".")#/resized.jpg", 400) 
cfset results1 = imageCFC.rotate("", "#ExpandPath(".")#/resized.jpg", "#ExpandPath(".")#/rotated.jpg", -90 ) 

Multiple Processes:
cfset results12 = imageCFC.scaleX("", "#ExpandPath(".")#/feather.png", "", 100)

 - here is where it re-uses the object created, but you have to run a process first to get it into the 'results12.img' variable
cfset results13 = imageCFC.flipVertical(results12.img, "", "")cfset results14 = imageCFC.flipHorizontal(results13.img, "", "")--

Do I just read the image and load it into a var called results.img and call it good? This seems too simple.
Is this clear as mud?


Thanks for everyone's time and effort
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RE: [CFCDEV]

2006-10-17 Thread Brent Nicholas


test test... is this thing on?Brent Nicholas -[EMAIL PROTECTED]"I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time."-- Man in Black - Princess Bride

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RE: [CFCDEV] Application CFC Inheritance Problems

2006-11-29 Thread Brent Nicholas
Teddy - 
 
No, there is not a space in the folder name. Does it run for you? It should 
just be a download, drop in place and run situation.
 
Thanks,
 
BNBrent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't afford to make 
exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin to 
disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time. -- Man 
in Black - Princess Bride


Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:00:19 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [CFCDEV] Application CFC Inheritance Problems
Is there a space in the name of the directory BandwidthAssociates?
 
If so, you need to change the name of folder from Bandwidth Associates to 
BandwidthAssociates.  
 
Teddy 
On 11/29/06, Brent Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

All -  I'm finally learning how to use the 'new' Application.cfc framework and 
need to use inheritance on it. Thus I read over: Extend the ColdFusion MX 7 
Application Framework using ColdFusion Components ( 
http://www.adobe.com/go/9ce734f4 ) It has you download the BandWidth 
Associates example: 
http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/9ce734f4/BandwidthAssociates.zip
 So I did and ran it. At this point the Application.cfc in the 'Sales' 
directory fails with an error of: Could not find the ColdFusion Component 
BandwidthAssociates.Application I placed the BandWidth Associates directory in 
the wwwroot. Ideas anyone? Thanks,Brent Nicholas -  [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't 
afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, 
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RE: [CFCDEV] Application CFC Inheritance Problems

2006-11-29 Thread Brent Nicholas
Hmmm... weird. I actually had it in wwwroot/BNTesting/BandwidthAssociates/Sales 
 and it would fail. 
 
I then moved it directly into the wwwroot and it worked. So I'm guessing the 
'extends' attribute would have needed to be: 
BNTesting.BandwidthAssociates.Application for it to work.
 
Sorry to bother everyone... 
 
Thanks,Brent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't afford to 
make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin 
to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time. -- 
Man in Black - Princess Bride


Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:00:19 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [CFCDEV] Application CFC Inheritance Problems
Is there a space in the name of the directory BandwidthAssociates?
 
If so, you need to change the name of folder from Bandwidth Associates to 
BandwidthAssociates.  
 
Teddy 
On 11/29/06, Brent Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

All -  I'm finally learning how to use the 'new' Application.cfc framework and 
need to use inheritance on it. Thus I read over: Extend the ColdFusion MX 7 
Application Framework using ColdFusion Components ( 
http://www.adobe.com/go/9ce734f4 ) It has you download the BandWidth 
Associates example: 
http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/9ce734f4/BandwidthAssociates.zip
 So I did and ran it. At this point the Application.cfc in the 'Sales' 
directory fails with an error of: Could not find the ColdFusion Component 
BandwidthAssociates.Application I placed the BandWidth Associates directory in 
the wwwroot. Ideas anyone? Thanks,Brent Nicholas -  [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't 
afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, 
people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all 
the time.  -- Man in Black - Princess Bride You are subscribed to cfcdev. To 
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[CFCDEV] Application.cfc and the Request scope best practice

2006-11-30 Thread Brent Nicholas
Howdy all - 
 
So I'm continuing on my path to use the application.cfc framework and I'm 
understanding more and more as I go along.
 
I've done a bit of reading on this subject and wanted to run my final 
conclusion by people to insure I understood this properly before going and 
changing all my code.
 
Outline:
I'm using a very loose version of FuseBox (basically just the file structure 
and fuseactions)
 
App Folder Structure:
|---Intranet Base Folder - (Application.cfc sets up the application.dsn, 
session.ID's user and other top level info)
 |--- Document Management folder - (Application.cfc (extends the above 
Application.cfc), runs a folder security check)
 
My observations:
1) When I include the app_Globals.cfm file (holds all my cfparam-var's) into 
the second Application.cfc, the var's can be used in that CFC but not the 
index.cfm that is the page being run.
2) Obviously if I include the app_Globals.cfm file into the index.cfm file then 
it works fine, but the call to one of the var's in the second Application.cfc 
file fails. (expected)
3) I could include the app_Globals.cfm into both pages, but this seems wrong..
 
My proposed solution:
Scope all of the var's in the app_Globals.cfm as 'request.varName' variables, 
and include into the second Application.cfc file.
 
This seems right, but I just wanted to run it by people who have been doing 
this longer than I.
 
Thanks for your time,Brent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't 
afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, 
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[CFCDEV] OT: File management with CF on DB and FileSys

2006-12-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
Ok, yeah OT... I am using CFMX with CFC's though! .. :)
 
 
Given the experience in this community I wanted to ask if any one knew of any 
sources to read about best practices when it comes to archiving documents that 
are tracked (meta and location of file) with a database while the document its 
self lives on a file system that mirrors (folder wise) the structure in the DB.
 
Right now I'm working out all the nuances of: Delete a file, update a file, 
move a folder, move a file with the above stated design. I've just got that 
sneaky suspicion I'm missing something obvious. I tend to over complicate 
sometimes.
 
Anyone done this? Or know of a place to read about it. I've already googled it, 
but didn't find much relevant. I'd expand on what I've done and learned but I 
wanted to keep the email short.
 
 
Thanks for your time,Brent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't 
afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, 
people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all 
the time. -- Man in Black - Princess Bride

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RE: [CFCDEV] OT: File management with CF on DB and FileSys

2006-12-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
Phillip - 
 
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I think I may have not explained enough 
of what I was working with in an attempt to be brief with an OT. That or I may 
have used 'archive' in a context that was not descriptive enough.
 
Oh, and of course I use subversion ;)
 
To clarify this 'solution opportunity', aka: problem. I was describing a web 
based file share system. The users can create folders (nested) and publish 
document containers that hold one or more files. The UI is fed off the DB and 
manages the content of the DB. When you save, get or delete a file, then you 
are working with the DB and a file system. I simply did not want to store files 
in the DB. I also wanted to be able to just grab the folder struct of files and 
go if needed, that and disaster recovery is quicker for end users.
 
As you might guess synchronization can get hairy when doing folder or document 
moves, since 'where' everything living on the file system is referenced in the 
db.
 
However, I think I may have a solution that will address the issue of 'how do I 
archive' raised in the initial email. In short I have devised a way to archive 
the existing metadata about folders, document containers and files in them and 
keep track of the files actually saved in the mirrored folder structure (on the 
file system) when it's time to archive them due to being replaced or deleted.
 
I'm thinking that what I was looking for may have been too project specific to 
expect to find any 'best practices' for.
 
Thanks for your time,
Brent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't afford to make 
exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin to 
disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time. -- Man 
in Black - Princess Bride


Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] OT: File management with CF on DB and FileSysDate: Tue, 
19 Dec 2006 13:06:11 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: cfcdev@cfczone.org




1. Most people on this list will say to use subversion.
We started doing that recently.
 
 
2. A few years ago, I developed a script to be run in BeyondCompare from 
www.scootersoftware.com, which I still use:
 
LOG VERBOSE Archive.log
LOAD C:\inetpub\wwwroot c:\Archive\Temp
FILTER cutoff:1days
EXPAND ALL
SELECT LEFT.FILES
Option confirm:yes-to-all
COPY LEFT-RIGHT
LOAD c:\Archive\Temp
EXPAND ALL
SELECT ALL
# COPYTO can accept a date parameter.
# Important: in Control Panel, Regional Settings, the Date separator was 
changed from / to -.
COPYTO LEFT c:\Archive\Development\%Date%
Option confirm:yes-to-all
# The following deletes the contents of c:\Archive\Temp
DELETE LEFT
 
 
What this does, when scheduled after midnight, is copy any files that have a 
datetime stamp of 1 day old (or less).
You'll have to create a few directories
MD C:\archive
MD C:\archive\temp
MD C:\archive\Development
It then starts creating subdirectories nightly
MD C:\archive\Development\2006-12-19  (Be sure to read note about the date 
separator)
 
This has been extremely lightweight and helpful in comparing versions.
5 stars for BeyondCompare!
 
 
 
 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent 
NicholasSent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[CFCDEV] OT: File management with CF on DB and FileSys
 
Ok, yeah OT... I am using CFMX with CFC's though! .. :)  Given the experience 
in this community I wanted to ask if any one knew of any sources to read about 
best practices when it comes to archiving documents that are tracked (meta and 
location of file) with a database while the document its self lives on a file 
system that mirrors (folder wise) the structure in the DB. Right now I'm 
working out all the nuances of: Delete a file, update a file, move a folder, 
move a file with the above stated design. I've just got that sneaky suspicion 
I'm missing something obvious. I tend to over complicate sometimes. Anyone done 
this? Or know of a place to read about it. I've already googled it, but didn't 
find much relevant. I'd expand on what I've done and learned but I wanted to 
keep the email short.  Thanks for your time,Brent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that 
a pirate has gone soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but 
work, work, work, all the time. -- Man in Black - Princess BrideYou are 
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[CFCDEV] OT: Quick question

2007-02-23 Thread Brent Nicholas
Sorry about the OT, I've been googling for this but can't seem to find the 
right search terms.
 
Does anyone know what those form submission filters are called that create a 
distorted bunch of characters that the user needs to type into a text field 
before they can submit the form?
 
Thanks,Brent Nicholas
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[CFCDEV] Answered: OT: Quick question

2007-02-23 Thread Brent Nicholas
Figures, right after I ask I find it. :)
 
It's called Image Verification.. or at least that'll bring back results.Brent 
Nicholas - I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a 
pirate has gone soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but 
work, work, work, all the time. -- Man in Black - Princess Bride


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [CFCDEV] OT: Quick questionDate: 
Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:15:10 -0700


Sorry about the OT, I've been googling for this but can't seem to find the 
right search terms. Does anyone know what those form submission filters are 
called that create a distorted bunch of characters that the user needs to type 
into a text field before they can submit the form? Thanks,Brent Nicholas I 
can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone 
soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, 
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RE: [CFCDEV] Answered: OT: Quick question

2007-02-23 Thread Brent Nicholas
Thanks everyone, Yeah I found LylaCAPTCHA.
 
BNBrent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't afford to make 
exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin to 
disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time. -- Man 
in Black - Princess Bride


Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] Answered: OT: Quick questionDate: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 
14:34:03 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: cfcdev@cfczone.org




Actually I think you’re looking for CAPTCHA (Completely Automated Public Turing 
test to tell Computers and Humans Apart)
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Nicholas
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:22 PM
To: cfcdev@cfczone.org
Subject: [CFCDEV] Answered: OT: Quick question
 
Figures, right after I ask I find it. :)
 
It's called Image Verification.. or at least that'll bring back results.
 
Brent Nicholas - 
I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone 
soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, 
all the time.
 
-- Man in Black - Princess Bride
 
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cfcdev@cfczone.org
Subject: [CFCDEV] OT: Quick question
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:15:10 -0700
 
Sorry about the OT, I've been googling for this but can't seem to find the 
right search terms.
 
Does anyone know what those form submission filters are called that create a 
distorted bunch of characters that the user needs to type into a text field 
before they can submit the form?
 
Thanks,
 
Brent Nicholas
 
I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone 
soft, people begin to disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, 
all the time.
 
-- Man in Black - Princess Bride
 
 
 
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[CFCDEV] Application cfc inheritance confusion

2007-03-02 Thread Brent Nicholas
Howdy all - 
 
So I thought I'd solved this back in December, but now that I'm moving the app 
to the production server it's not working again.
 
In short the application that is being run has an Application.cfc that inherits 
from the main Application.cfc. When run, it throws the error: Could not find 
the ColdFusion Component CFLHDintranet.Application
 
Here's an outline of the setup (with reference index numbers to code):
 
CF Files are in:
D:\IntranetRoadMap\  --- has the index.cfm (works fine) and 
Application.cfc ((1) -referenced below)D:\IntranetRoadMap\hr   --- has the 
index.cfm (fails) and Application.cfc (fails) with inheritance from top App.cfc 
((2) -referenced below)
 
IIS Configured to:
WebSite called Roadmap on port 80, points at D:\IntranetRoadMap\, I access 
through: http://roadmap.cflhd.gov
(on my machine I had to create a virtual directory in the main web site called 
CFLHDIntranet and it all works fine)
 
Note:
For those of you who are familiar with it, I also ran the BandwidthAssociates 
code in the D:\IntranetRoadMap\ (removing the other code of course), and it 
failed as well. I figured it was a good 'control' to test with.
 
Code:
(1)D:\IntranetRoadMap\Application.cfc
-
cfcomponent output=false
 cfset this.name=CFLHDIntranet cfset this.sessionmanagement=yes cfset 
this.SetClientCookies=no cfset this.loginstorage=session cfset 
this.applicationTimeout=CreateTimeSpan(0,12,0,0)  !--- 12 hrs --- cfset 
this.sessionTimeout=CreateTimeSpan(0,4,0,0)   !--- 4 hrs ---  !--- Define 
DSN --- cfinclude template=app_Datasource.cfm  cffunction 
name=onSessionStart returntype=void
do some login/authenticaion stuff
 /cffunction
/cfcomponent
-
-
 
(2)   D:\IntranetRoadMap\hr\Application.cfc
-
cfcomponent extends=CFLHDIntranet.Application
 cfinclude template=app_Globals.cfm/cfcomponent
-
-
 
Thanks for everyone's time - 
Brent Nicholas

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RE: [CFCDEV] Application cfc inheritance confusion

2007-03-02 Thread Brent Nicholas
Aaron - 
 
Ok, hmm.. well. First I tried to just rename the base dir to - 
D:\CFLHDIntraNet\  to see if that would work. It didn't. Then I did what you 
said and created a CF Mapping of CFLHDIntraNet to the dir above. It all 
worked at that point.
 
Though, I didn't need a mapping on my dev server, but maybe it had something to 
do with the CFLHDIntraNet folder being in the inetpub dir.
 
I'm sure it'll click in time.
 
Thanks for your help however, I appreciate it.
 
BNBrent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't afford to make 
exceptions. Once word leaks out that a pirate has gone soft, people begin to 
disobey you, and then it's nothing but work, work, work, all the time. -- Man 
in Black - Princess Bride



 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:57:51 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDEV] Application cfc inheritance 
 confusion  extends=CFLHDIntranet.Application is basically saying:  look 
 in the directory (from current directory) or in the directory  mapping 
 called CFLHDIntranet and use the file called Application.cfc as  the parent 
 for this class.  I'm betting you have no directory called  
 D:\IntranetRoadMap\hr\CFLHDIntranet or CF mapping called that either?  
 Solution: create a ColdFusion mapping called CFLHDIntranet that points  to 
 D:\IntranetRoadMap\.  NB: CF has no idea about and does not / cannot (??) 
 use the virtual IIS  mapping you created called CFLHDIntranet.  HTH 
 Aaron  Brent Nicholas wrote:  Howdy all -So I thought I'd solved 
 this back in December, but now that I'm moving   the app to the production 
 server it's not working again.In short the application that is being 
 run has an Application.cfc that   inherits from the main Application.cfc. 
 When run, it throws the error:   Could not find the ColdFusion Component 
 CFLHDintranet.ApplicationHere's an outline of the setup (with 
 reference index numbers to code):*CF Files are in:*  
 D:\IntranetRoadMap\ --- has the index.cfm (works fine) and   
 Application.cfc ((1) -referenced below)  D:\IntranetRoadMap\hr --- has the 
 index.cfm (fails) and   Application.cfc (fails) with inheritance from top 
 App.cfc ((2)   -referenced below)*IIS Configured to:*  WebSite 
 called Roadmap on port 80, points at D:\IntranetRoadMap\,   I access 
 through: http://roadmap.cflhd.gov  (on my machine I had to create a virtual 
 directory in the main web   site called CFLHDIntranet and it all works 
 fine)*Note:*  For those of you who are familiar with it, I also ran 
 the   BandwidthAssociates code in the D:\IntranetRoadMap\ (removing the 
   other code of course), and it failed as well. I figured it was a good   
 'control' to test with.*Code:*  (1) 
 *D:\IntranetRoadMap\Application.cfc*  
 -  cfcomponent output=false  
 cfset this.name=CFLHDIntranet  cfset this.sessionmanagement=yes  
 cfset this.SetClientCookies=no  cfset this.loginstorage=session  
 cfset this.applicationTimeout=CreateTimeSpan(0,12,0,0) !--- 12   hrs 
 ---  cfset this.sessionTimeout=CreateTimeSpan(0,4,0,0) !--- 4 hrs --- 
!--- Define DSN ---  cfinclude template=app_Datasource.cfm   
  cffunction name=onSessionStart returntype=void  do some 
 login/authenticaion stuff  /cffunction  /cfcomponent  
 -  
 -(2) 
 *D:\IntranetRoadMap\hr\Application.cfc*  
 -  cfcomponent 
 extends=CFLHDIntranet.Application  cfinclude 
 template=app_Globals.cfm  /cfcomponent  
 -  
 -Thanks for everyone's time 
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RE: [CFCDEV] table driven file system

2007-04-12 Thread Brent Nicholas
Janet - 
 
 Hi, yeah I just got done building one of these. It does nearly everything that 
windows explorer does, but no drag and drop.
 
Alot of the functions can be quite tricky. ex: (Move file, move folder, create 
folder). My system manages the information about the file system in a database 
while storing the files on a file system. Is this what you're after?
 
Thanks,
 
Brent Nicholas - 
 There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - John Hancock
Original Email - 
-Has anyone ever 
used cfcs for a table driven file system (if thats the right term)? Like 
windows explorer except the file structure is maintained in database tables. 
Folder TableFolderIDParentFolderIDDocument TableDocumentIDFolderIDI think I've 
figured out the basics but was wondering if there were any examples or 
recommendations that might prove useful.  Janet

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[CFCDEV] Looking for the CF-Dev List admin...

2007-04-13 Thread Brent Nicholas
 
Who's the supreme leader? I've got a question.
 
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[CFCDEV] access to applicationname in extended CFC

2007-04-23 Thread Brent Nicholas
Howdy all - 
 
Does anyone know why I can't access the the 'application.applicationname' 
variable while in an extended CFC?
 
Ex:
 
wwwroot/Application.cfc
---
cfcomponent output=false
cfset this.name=CFLHDIntranetcfset this.sessionmanagement=yes   
 cfset this.SetClientCookies=nocfset this.loginstorage=session
/cfcomponent
---
 
wwwroot/SubFolder/Application.cfc
---
cfcomponent extends=CFLHDIntranet.Application
  cflogin applicationtoken=#application.applicationname#/cflogin  
--- (1)  cfoutput#application.applicationname#/cfoutput
   --- (2)
/cfcomponent
---
1) Original code, throws error: Element APPLICATIONNAME is undefined in 
APPLICATION.
 
2) I commented out (1), then just tried to output this line. same error. Though 
if I comment them both out, I will see in the CF debug: 
Scope Variables - Application Variables:applicationname=CFLHDIntranet
Thoughts?
 
Thanks for your time - 
 
Brent Nicholas -  There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - 
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RE: [CFCDEV] access to applicationname in extended CFC

2007-04-23 Thread Brent Nicholas
Ok, it's Monday
 
the answer is: this.name
 
'sigh' :)Brent Nicholas -  There, I guess King George will be able to read 
that! - John Hancock


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [CFCDEV] access to 
applicationname in extended CFCDate: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:03:47 -0600


Howdy all -  Does anyone know why I can't access the the 
'application.applicationname' variable while in an extended CFC? Ex: 
wwwroot/Application.cfc---cfcomponent output=false
cfset this.name=CFLHDIntranetcfset this.sessionmanagement=yes
cfset this.SetClientCookies=nocfset 
this.loginstorage=session/cfcomponent--- 
wwwroot/SubFolder/Application.cfc---cfcomponent 
extends=CFLHDIntranet.Application  cflogin 
applicationtoken=#application.applicationname#/cflogin  --- (1)  
cfoutput#application.applicationname#/cfoutput   --- 
(2)/cfcomponent---1) Original code, throws error: 
Element APPLICATIONNAME is undefined in APPLICATION. 2) I commented out (1), 
then just tried to output this line. same error. Though if I comment them both 
out, I will see in the CF debug: Scope Variables - Application 
Variables:applicationname=CFLHDIntranetThoughts? Thanks for your time -  Brent 
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RE: [CFCDEV] access to applicationname in extended CFC

2007-04-23 Thread Brent Nicholas
Aaron -
 
Thanks for the reply. Ideally I could learn the techniques you mentioned, 
though being the only developer on staff I can't take the risk of using some of 
the more interesting uses the cfc's have taken on. I see the value, I just have 
to show results faster than I feel I can learn OO cfc's.
 
Once I get this intranet out there I'll have some more time to experiment and 
learn more of what's dicussed on this forum.
 
Thanks for your replies though.
 
BNBrent Nicholas -  There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - 
John Hancock



 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:53:50 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDEV] access to applicationname in 
 extended CFC   There's nothing wrong with accessing those variables within 
 Application.cfc,  though.  Yep. I figured from the post that he was 
 accessing application variables directly from other CFCs.  Is anyone 
 extending Application.cfc? I never thought of that before.  -Aaron   You 
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RE: [CFCDEV] access to applicationname in extended CFC

2007-04-24 Thread Brent Nicholas
  Is anyone extending Application.cfc? I never thought of that before.
 
I do it just to make sure my Datasource, Schema and a few other high level vars 
are always present.
But then again, I'm not doing any OO cfc work.
 
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RE: [CFCDEV] Is there a point to staying here?

2007-04-30 Thread Brent Nicholas
Mike - 
 
I see plenty of good talks about CFC OO and various other topics. Lot's to 
learn. You should check the web page that allows you to browse the postings and 
see if you are actually getting all of them. Otherwise maybe your spam filter 
is only letting spam through and filtering the conversations.
 
BNBrent Nicholas
 There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - John Hancock



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 point to staying on this list? For a month I've had nothing but spam.   Is 
 there any legitimate traffic on this list at all any more? Or am I the last 
 one left with the spammers? Or should I turn out the lights as I leave?  
 Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified 
 Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com 
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[CFCDEV] here we go again...

2007-05-24 Thread Brent Nicholas
I hate to be the guy to drag in the dead horse to kick...
 
But I thought I'd bring this up for discussion and wonder what other people are 
seeing out there. Personally I think all programming will 'die' in the US from 
outsourcing, so getting a PMP degree might be the smart thing for any 
programmer.
 
CF haters need not reply.
 
5. ColdFusion
This once-popular Web programming language -- released in the mid-1990s by 
Allaire Corp. (which was later purchased by Macromedia Inc., which itself was 
acquired by Adobe Systems Inc.) -- has since been superseded by other 
development platforms, including Microsoft Corp.'s Active Server Pages and 
.Net, as well as Java, Ruby on Rails, Python, PHP and other open-source 
languages.
 
Posted at:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9020942pageNumber=2Brent
 Nicholas -  There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - John 
Hancock

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RE: [CFCDEV] here we go again...

2007-05-24 Thread Brent Nicholas
Eric - 
 
I completely agree, though I'll get the PMP for 'added value' anyway.
 
I'm mainly wondering however, what peoples thoughts are on the CF aspect of 
what I posted. Maybe I shouldn't have clouded the topic with the 'outsourcing' 
aspect.
 
BNBrent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There, I guess King George 
will be able to read that! - John Hancock


Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:42:20 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [CFCDEV] here we go again...
Outsourcing is not really a good solution for the majority of programming work, 
and more companies are getting wise to that.  What is presented as a cheap 
panacea to resolving death-march projects is really just another money pit.  
Most executives respond to sales pitches and that is a prime reason why there 
has been as much outsourcing as we've seen.  However, a few factors are going 
to prevent outsourcing from ever reaching the plague level we've all been 
worried about for so long: 
 
1.  Companies outsource because they believe it will be cheaper to do so than 
to manage their own technology.  In a few small cases where a COTS solution 
will address a business need, this may in fact work (think manufacturing 
companies).  The majority of businesses in the United States are 
service-oriented, and service industries benefit from using technology to 
differentiate themselves (there are numerous published studies on this, just 
Google it).  If you agree with my premise, then you must agree that businesses 
operating in service-oriented verticals are not in a good position to benefit 
from a COTS product, unless they spend big bucks optimizing it, in which case 
you have paid a vendor to develop a system that can then be sold to a 
competitor - no way.  Not all companies are wise to this and the ones that are 
not will go under eventually. 
 
2.  Wages in popular outsourcing countries are going up at an exponential rate. 
 Already, an experienced developer in India can earn 1/3 to 1/2 of a typical 
U.S. salary for a person of comparable experience and skill.  While it is true 
that you can throw green Indian engineers at a project (they make very little), 
we all know what kind of results you can expect in that scenario, and it is 
precisely the reason why so many companies have had horrible outsourcing 
experiences.  If you attempt to assemble an Indian team of developers to do the 
work of an American team, you will spend 1/3 to 1/2 as much just in salaries, 
and that doesn't consider the logistical cost of arranging your business 
according to their best practices (which you will have to do in order to 
outsource successfully). 
 
3.  The majority of U.S. companies are not at a CMM level where they can 
profitably outsource projects.  Most projects in the U.S. do not fail because 
the programmers are bad or because they are too expensive.  They fail because 
the required processes to successfully develop software are not in place.  The 
capability maturity model exists for this purpose and I will bet that very few 
of us have ever worked in an organization that even knew what its CMM was, much 
less was able to boast a high enough rating to do business with the top 
Indian outsourcers without major cost penalties due to lack of compliance with 
CMM practices.  The first thing companies must do is learn how to define 
project requirements and how to manage those projects; if you think it's hard 
getting good results from an American team that understands your culture and 
language natively when you deal with them face-to-face, I don't think you can 
truly appreciate the world of pain you are asking for by shipping the work 
overseas to an unknown set of circumstances. 
 
In my opinion there are numerous other reasons why the types of outsourcing 
projects feared by American technology workers are unlikely to pose a real 
threat.  Having said that, if I am wrong, I don't think that a PMP 
certification saves you, either.  If you can successfully outsource 
programming, you can successfully outsource project management, as well. 
 
Just my 2 cents.
 
Eric 
On 5/24/07, Brent Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I hate to be the guy to drag in the dead horse to kick... But I thought I'd 
bring this up for discussion and wonder what other people are seeing out there. 
Personally I think all programming will 'die' in the US from outsourcing, so 
getting a PMP degree might be the smart thing for any programmer.  CF haters 
need not reply. 5. ColdFusionThis once-popular Web programming language -- 
released in the mid-1990s by Allaire Corp. (which was later purchased by 
Macromedia Inc., which itself was acquired by Adobe Systems Inc.) -- has since 
been superseded by other development platforms, including Microsoft Corp.'s 
Active Server Pages and .Net, as well as Java, Ruby on Rails, Python, PHP and 
other open-source languages.  Posted 
at:http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId

[CFCDEV] OT: Quick AJAX Poll

2007-06-12 Thread Brent Nicholas
Hey all - 
 
So I'm wonder how many people are using AJAX in this group and what you're 
using.
 
I'm using dojo right now and have done a few simple things with it on the site, 
but am looking at doing a full application with AJAX. 
 
Has anyone used Prototype? I've been told it's #1, but I hear the same about 
dojo. Right now I'm finding dojo a little cryptic, despite the few 'starter 
guides'.
 
I'm initially looking for reasonable learning curve and loose coupling. 
 
Thanks for your time,Brent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There, 
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[CFCDEV] Application.cfc variables and cflogin

2007-08-23 Thread Brent Nicholas
Howdy all - 
 
Summary:
A top level Application.cfc sets up the application vars and handles login with 
CFLOGIN.
A child folder Application.cfc (extends parent) does not seem to have access to 
the GetAuthUser() set in the parent Application.cfc
The index.cfm file in this child folder however does correctly report 
GetAuthUser().
 

 
So I'm constantly getting tripped up with the Application.cfc file and what it 
will and won't do, and more importantly
what 'I think' it should be doing.
 
Here's the scenario. I've got an application running in a sub-folder of an 
intranet. The intranet will pick up the Active Directory user ID from AUTH_USER 
that the browser picks up. The intranet then will user this username to 
automatically log them in. It works great and I've done this many time on all 
kinds of things. Except in this one case something is screwy...
 
I guess the best way to describe it is through a simple diagram with numeric 
keys explaining the parts.
 
Note:
Session data is being passed, so that's not the issue.
 
Intranet Folders and Files:
 
CFLHDIntranet (folder) (1)
\--- Application.cfc (2)
\--- DocShare (folder) (3)
   \--- Application.cfc (4)
   \--- index.cfm (5)
 
1) - The whole intranet lives in this folder.
 
2) - Application.cfc (abreviated)
   cfcomponent output=true
  cfset this.name=CFLHDIntranet  cfset 
this.sessionmanagement=yes  cfset 
this.SetClientCookies=no  cfset 
this.loginstorage=session   cffunction 
name=onSessionStart returntype=void
  I do a bunch of login stuff to log them in and set an 
EMP_ID from the DB 
cflogin   cfloginuser 
name=#loginQuery.EMP_ID# Password=#loginQuery.password# 
roles=#loginQuery.ROLE# /cflogin
   /cffunction
 
3) - Folder that the quarrelsome application lives in
 
4) - Application.cfc - This file will not return the GetAuthUser() as it was 
set in the parent Application.cfc
cfcomponent extends=CFLHDIntraNet.Application
 cfoutput#GetAuthUser()# |#this.name#|/cfoutput - test before cflogin 
is called: returns domain/username cflogin 
applicationtoken=#this.name#/cflogin  
cfoutput#GetAuthUser()#/cfoutput - test after cflogin is called: returns 
domain/username
 
  --- a bunch of application level security needing the EMP_ID code from 
the parent Application.cfc 
/cfcomponent
 
5) However, if you call index.cfm the GetAuthUser() returns '707'=EMP_ID as it 
should.
 
Thanks for your time!
 
BN


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RE: [CFCDEV] Application.cfc variables and cflogin

2007-08-24 Thread Brent Nicholas
hmm.. so either this question was so dumb I provided everyone with a good 
chuckle or it's truly perplexing..
 
:)Brent Nicholas


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [CFCDEV] Application.cfc variables 
and cfloginDate: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:29:28 -0600


Howdy all -  Summary:A top level Application.cfc sets up the application vars 
and handles login with CFLOGIN.A child folder Application.cfc (extends parent) 
does not seem to have access to the GetAuthUser() set in the parent 
Application.cfcThe index.cfm file in this child folder however does correctly 
report GetAuthUser(). 

 So I'm constantly getting tripped up with the Application.cfc file and what it 
will and won't do, and more importantlywhat 'I think' it should be doing. 
Here's the scenario. I've got an application running in a sub-folder of an 
intranet. The intranet will pick up the Active Directory user ID from AUTH_USER 
that the browser picks up. The intranet then will user this username to 
automatically log them in. It works great and I've done this many time on all 
kinds of things. Except in this one case something is screwy... I guess the 
best way to describe it is through a simple diagram with numeric keys 
explaining the parts. Note:Session data is being passed, so that's not the 
issue. Intranet Folders and Files: CFLHDIntranet (folder) (1)\--- 
Application.cfc (2)\--- DocShare (folder) (3)   \--- Application.cfc (4)
   \--- index.cfm (5) 1) - The whole intranet lives in this folder. 2) - 
Application.cfc (abreviated)   cfcomponent output=true  
cfset this.name=CFLHDIntranet  cfset 
this.sessionmanagement=yes  cfset 
this.SetClientCookies=no  cfset 
this.loginstorage=session   cffunction 
name=onSessionStart returntype=void  I do a bunch of 
login stuff to log them in and set an EMP_ID from the DB
 cflogin   cfloginuser name=#loginQuery.EMP_ID# 
Password=#loginQuery.password# roles=#loginQuery.ROLE# 
/cflogin   /cffunction 3) - Folder that the quarrelsome 
application lives in 4) - Application.cfc - This file will not return the 
GetAuthUser() as it was set in the parent Application.cfccfcomponent 
extends=CFLHDIntraNet.Application cfoutput#GetAuthUser()# 
|#this.name#|/cfoutput - test before cflogin is called: returns 
domain/username cflogin applicationtoken=#this.name#/cflogin  
cfoutput#GetAuthUser()#/cfoutput - test after cflogin is called: returns 
domain/username   --- a bunch of application level security needing the 
EMP_ID code from the parent Application.cfc /cfcomponent 5) However, if 
you call index.cfm the GetAuthUser() returns '707'=EMP_ID as it should. Thanks 
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RE: [CFCDEV] Application.cfc variables and cflogin

2007-08-25 Thread Brent Nicholas
Sean - 
 
Thanks for your reply. I'll copy and paste the 1-5 below and try to modify it 
to be more clear.
--
 
To answer your question, it's both. 
If I do an output of GetAuthUser() in CFLHDIntranet\DocShare\Application.cfc 
I get: 'domain\user;  
If I do an output of GetAuthUser() in CFLHDIntranet\DocShare\index.cfm I get: 
'707' (emp_id as set in CFLHDIntranet\Application.cfc )
 
In the parent Application.cfc(2) I pick up AUTH_USER from the Windows 
Integrated Authentication (IE/IIS) as 'domain\username' and then set the 
GetAuthUser()  by doing: 
 
cflogincfloginuser name=#loginQuery.EMP_ID# 
Password=#loginQuery.password# roles=#loginQuery.ROLE#/cflogin
Will this work? THe intention is to set that value that GetAuthUser() returns 
to 'emp_id' for use everywhere. However it seems the child Application.cfc is 
still returning the 'domain\username', while the index.cfm(5) seems to get the 
intended value just fine.
 
Is this any help?
 
Intranet Folders and Files: CFLHDIntranet\ (folder) 
(1)CFLHDIntranet\Application.cfc (2)CFLHDIntranet\DocShare (folder) 
(3)CFLHDIntranet\DocShare\Application.cfc (4)CFLHDIntranet\DocShare\index.cfm 
(5) 1) - The whole intranet lives in this folder. 2) - 
'CFLHDIntranet\Application.cfc' (abreviated)   cfcomponent 
output=true  cfset this.name=CFLHDIntranet   
   cfset this.sessionmanagement=yes  cfset 
this.SetClientCookies=no  cfset 
this.loginstorage=session   cffunction 
name=onSessionStart returntype=void  I do a bunch of 
login stuff to log them in and set an EMP_ID from the DB
 cflogin   cfloginuser name=#loginQuery.EMP_ID# 
Password=#loginQuery.password# roles=#loginQuery.ROLE# 
/cflogin   /cffunction 3) - (DocShare) Folder that the 
quarrelsome application lives in 4) - 'CFLHDIntranet\DocShare\Application.cfc' 
- extends the parent Application.cfc  This file will not return the 
GetAuthUser() as it was set in the parent Application.cfccfcomponent 
extends=CFLHDIntraNet.Application cfoutput#GetAuthUser()# 
|#this.name#|/cfoutput - test before cflogin is called: returns 
domain/username cflogin applicationtoken=#this.name#/cflogin  
cfoutput#GetAuthUser()#/cfoutput - test after cflogin is called: returns 
domain/username   --- a bunch of application level security needing the 
EMP_ID code from the GetAuthUser() - set in the parent 
Application.cfc/cfcomponent 5) However, if you call 
'CFLHDIntranet\DocShare\index.cfm' the GetAuthUser() returns '707'=EMP_ID as it 
should.

Brent Nicholas - 248.767.5516 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There, I guess King George 
will be able to read that! - John Hancock



 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:00:49 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDEV] Application.cfc variables and 
 cflogin  On 8/24/07, Brent Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hmm.. so 
 either this question was so dumb I provided everyone with a good  
 chuckle or it's truly perplexing..  I've read your post a couple of 
 times but I'm really not sure what you're asking...?  You start by saying 
 that getAuthUser() does not return the right value but then you say:   5) 
 However, if you call index.cfm the GetAuthUser() returns '707'=EMP_ID as  
 it should.  So... which is it? Right or wrong? --  Sean A Corfield -- 
 (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/  If you're not 
 annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood   You are 
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RE: [CFCDEV] Application.cfc variables and cflogin

2007-08-25 Thread Brent Nicholas
Sean - 
 
Thanks for your reply, I'll test this out on Monday when I get back in the 
office.
 
BNBrent Nicholas -  There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - 
John Hancock



 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:27:41 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDEV] Application.cfc variables and 
 cflogin  On 8/25/07, Brent Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Will this 
 work? THe intention is to set that value that GetAuthUser()  returns to 
 'emp_id' for use everywhere. However it seems the child  Application.cfc is 
 still returning the 'domain\username', while the  index.cfm(5) seems to get 
 the intended value just fine.  Well, you have to understand the 
 Application.cfc lifecycle to see why it's slightly different to regular 
 CFCs...  I would suggest moving this code:   cfoutput#GetAuthUser()# 
 |#this.name#|/cfoutput - test before  cflogin is called: returns 
 domain/username   cflogin applicationtoken=#this.name#/cflogin  
  cfoutput#GetAuthUser()#/cfoutput - test after  cflogin is called: 
 returns domain/username  ...into onRequestStart() instead and see whether 
 that produces the expected result. There are certain things you can't do 
 reliably in the pseudo-constructor of Application.cfc based on what I've 
 seen on various lists and problems people have run into. --  Sean A 
 Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/  
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RE: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Brent Nicholas
Interesting reads, however a bit pushy on the I'm right stance.
 
However I have to wonder... it OO really a good way to go? I'll preface by 
saying I've studied OO (java), though never had a chance to use it due to 
budget and time constraints (read: I'm inexperienced and that would drag the 
projects out for months on end..)
 
So I've developed the following opinions for OO on projects:
 
OO's fine if you:  have a lot of expertise in it and write applications you host
OO's fine if you:  will need to use common objects (get from db, store in db, 
look up customer, get site details)
 
OO's not fine if you:  have a big project that needs to be on time, bug free 
and you don't have much experience in it
OO's not fine if you:  are building small custom internal applications
 
I guess I've always been up against the fact that I'm the only developer here 
and have to show results and no excuses. So I've been shy on the CF OO thing 
because it seemed like such a monumental effort, maybe that's where these guys 
are comming from.. high pressure, high stress, I don't have time..Brent 
Nicholas -  There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - John 
Hancock



 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] Tom 
 Minderson and anti-OO Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:07:25 -0400  Yeah, I read 
 a bit of that. I also think Minderson responded to that. He noted that it 
 was very one sided.  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Peddle Sent: Wednesday, August 
 29, 2007 4:49 PM To: cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson 
 and anti-OO  Some anti - oo here: 
 http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/oopbad.htmJustin Treher wrote:  
  I was browsing around some old OO ColdFusion posts and saw a lot of   
 talk by Tom MInderson. It seems like he has about 50 posts spread   out 
 (by doing a quick Google search). They all pretty much say the   same 
 thing:   OO complicates things for datacentric applications that 
 ColdFusion is   targeting. I.e. we don't control cars or automatic garage 
 doors. Then   he goes on about this Set Theory.   The only thing I 
 could find on set theory with Coldfusion was at   
 http://cfdj.sys-con.com/read/41826_p.htm   . the most complex ColdFusion 
 article ever.   Is anyone familiar with his anti-web app OOP mission? Do 
 his arguments   have any validity? What the heck is set theory programming? 
 I felt   like I was stepping back into philosophy 101 with syllogisms.  
  I do see his point that trying to map objects to a relational database   
 is where OOP starts to feel really unnatural. In addition, with the   
 business objects we deal with, it seems unnatural for them to have   
 behaviors, unlike a car being able to start().   JustinYou 
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RE: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Brent Nicholas
hmm... well I didn't intend to send this after writing it... since after I 
wrote I thought.. hmm.. I'm just thinking out loud. however my mouse and hand 
conspired against me...
 
So feel free to chuckle and guffaw.. :)
 
BN
Brent Nicholas -  There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - 
John Hancock


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and 
anti-OODate: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:38:24 -0600


Interesting reads, however a bit pushy on the I'm right stance. However I 
have to wonder... it OO really a good way to go? I'll preface by saying I've 
studied OO (java), though never had a chance to use it due to budget and time 
constraints (read: I'm inexperienced and that would drag the projects out for 
months on end..) So I've developed the following opinions for OO on projects: 
OO's fine if you:  have a lot of expertise in it and write applications you 
hostOO's fine if you:  will need to use common objects (get from db, store in 
db, look up customer, get site details) OO's not fine if you:  have a big 
project that needs to be on time, bug free and you don't have much experience 
in itOO's not fine if you:  are building small custom internal applications I 
guess I've always been up against the fact that I'm the only developer here and 
have to show results and no excuses. So I've been shy on the CF OO thing 
because it seemed like such a monumental effort, maybe that's where these guys 
are comming from.. high pressure, high stress, I don't have time..Brent 
Nicholas -  There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - John 
Hancock

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] Tom 
 Minderson and anti-OO Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:07:25 -0400  Yeah, I read 
 a bit of that. I also think Minderson responded to that. He noted that it 
 was very one sided.  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Peddle Sent: Wednesday, August 
 29, 2007 4:49 PM To: cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson 
 and anti-OO  Some anti - oo here: 
 http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/oopbad.htmJustin Treher wrote:  
  I was browsing around some old OO ColdFusion posts and saw a lot of   
 talk by Tom MInderson. It seems like he has about 50 posts spread   out 
 (by doing a quick Google search). They all pretty much say the   same 
 thing:   OO complicates things for datacentric applications that 
 ColdFusion is   targeting. I.e. we don't control cars or automatic garage 
 doors. Then   he goes on about this Set Theory.   The only thing I 
 could find on set theory with Coldfusion was at   
 http://cfdj.sys-con.com/read/41826_p.htm   . the most complex ColdFusion 
 article ever.   Is anyone familiar with his anti-web app OOP mission? Do 
 his arguments   have any validity? What the heck is set theory programming? 
 I felt   like I was stepping back into philosophy 101 with syllogisms.  
  I do see his point that trying to map objects to a relational database   
 is where OOP starts to feel really unnatural. In addition, with the   
 business objects we deal with, it seems unnatural for them to have   
 behaviors, unlike a car being able to start().   JustinYou 
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