date:20030313

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Well, Tony is being linked to a known peedophile-ring.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mossad had some pictures of
Tony and a few choir boys.

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without UN resolution

I think the writing is on the wall.

The writing seems to say that Blair must be
being black-mailed.

Blair is having so much opposition from so many
places (probably even his own heart and brain),
and yet he is pursuing war like a mad man.

His arguments for war don't stand up against the
principles being argued back at him; and also
he has a mass of people against him - including
a majority of the British people - therefore Tony
Blair must be being black-mailed.

Michael

BIG opposition against Tony Blair
(so, WHY doesn't he back down??!!!) ...

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: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:49:12 -0800
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Subject: [pr-x] Unions warn of mass Labour revolt

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,9061,912489,00.html

The Guardian  Wednesday March 12, 2003

Unions warn of mass Labour revolt

Patrick Wintour, chief political correspondent

Union leaders yesterday warned Tony Blair that he will be deserted by the
labour movement if he goes ahead with a war in Iraq without a second
security council resolution.

A union delegation, led by the TUC general secretary-elect, Brendan Barber,
distanced themselves - for the moment - from leftwing moves to hold a
special party conference at which Mr Blair's leadership could be challenged.

But a union source said that all bets are off if Mr Blair ignores the
demand from the party for a second resolution: There will be mayhem if he
does this without the UN.

The pressure for a special party conference is coming from the hard left,
especially the Campaign Group of MPs. The unions are reluctant to be
embroiled in any leadership manoeuvre so close to military action.

The Campaign Group last night issued a statement saying: It is time for the
prime minister to consider his position. We are now placing at risk the
entire fabric of the international community. Blair is not the issue, the
future of the UN is.

The group, claiming the backing of 40 MPs, accused Mr Blair of signing up
to the reckless ambitions of US militarism. Its uncompromising stance may
help Mr Blair in the short term, but the mood within the labour movement is
tense.

Earlier, veteran MP Tam Dalyell, the father of the house, told BBC Radio 4's
Today programme: As soon as it becomes clear that the UN is disregarded,
yes, certainly a letter will go out to our colleagues asking for a special
conference of the Labour party.

I don't think it is possible to exaggerate the degree of concern about the
illegality of what is proposed.

There are many constituency Labour parties who ... will put forward a
resolution that if there is no UN mandate and if there is not a vote in the
Commons before the commitment of British troops, then we ask the prime
minister to consider his position as leader of the party.

Following the TUC's talks at Downing Street, Mr Barber refused to speculate
about whether there would be a leadership challenge to Mr Blair if he went
ahead with an attack without UN backing.

I want to focus on the efforts that need to be made now to try to resolve
this through the UN and with international agreement, he said. That is
what the prime minister is concentrating on, that's what we are
concentrating on.

Privately union leaders said they were not impressed by the Downing Street
argument that a military strike would have legitimacy if Mr Blair secured a
numerical majority on the security council, but the resolution was vetoed by
the French or Russians.

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[CTRL] Cheney is still paid by Pentagon contractor

2003-03-13 Thread Steve Wingate

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Bush deputy gets up to $1m from firm with Iraq oil deal

Robert Bryce in Austin, Texas and Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday March 12, 2003
The Guardian

Halliburton, the Texas company which has been awarded the Pentagon's
contract to put out potential oil-field fires in Iraq and which is
bidding for postwar construction contracts, is still making annual
payments to its former chief executive, the vice-president Dick
Cheney.
The payments, which appear on Mr Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure
statement, are in the form of deferred compensation of up to $1m
(£600,000) a year.

When he left Halliburton in 2000 to become George Bush's running
mate, he opted not to receive his leaving payment in a lump sum but
instead have it paid to him over five years, possibly for tax
reasons.

An aide to the vice president said yesterday: This is money that Mr
Cheney was owed by the corporation as part of his salary for the time
he was employed by Halliburton and which was a fixed amount paid to
him over time.

The aide said the payment was even insured so that it would not be
affected even if Halliburton went bankrupt, to ensure there was no
conflict of interest.

Also, the vice president has nothing whatsoever to do with the
Pentagon bidding process, the aide added.

The company would not say how much the payments are. The obligatory
disclosure statement filled by all top government officials says only
that they are in the range of $100,000 and $1m. Nor is it clear how
they are calculated.

Halliburton is one of five large US corporations - the others are the
Bechtel Group, Fluor Corp, Parsons Corp, and the Louis Berger Group -
invited to bid for contracts in what may turn out to be the biggest
reconstruction project since the second world war.

It is estimated to be worth up to $900m for the preliminary work
alone, such as rebuilding Iraq's hospitals, ports, airports and
schools.

The contract winners will be able to establish a presence in post-
Saddam Iraq that should give them an invaluable edge in winning
future contracts.

The defence department contract awarded to the Halliburton
subsidiary, Kellog, Brown  Root (KBR), to control oil fires if
Saddam Hussein sets the well heads alight, will put the company in an
excellent position to bid for huge contracts when Iraq's oil industry
is rehabilitated.

KBR has already benefited considerably from the war on terror. It
has so far been awarded contracts worth nearly $33m to build the
detention camp at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba for al-Qaida suspects.

Asked whether the payments to Mr Cheney represented a conflict of
interest, Halliburton's spokeswoman, Wendy Hall, said: We have been
working as a government contractor since the 1940s. Since this time,
KBR has become the premier provider of logistics and support services
to all branches of the military.

In the five years Mr Cheney was at the helm, Halliburton nearly
doubled the amount of business it did with the government to $2.3bn.
The company also more than doubled its political contributions to
$1.2m, overwhelmingly to Republican candidates.

Mr Cheney sold most of his Halliburton shares when he left the
company, but retained stock options worth about $8m. He arranged to
pay any profits to charity.

· Robert Bryce is the author of Pipe Dreams: Greed, Ego, Jealousy and
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[CTRL] Fwd: Djindjic Warned Washington! [In 2001, Serb PM, Killed Tuesday, Hinted he Could Tell Alll...]

2003-03-13 Thread Tenorlove

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 * Gangster's Logic: Djindjic Warns Washington *

 by Jared Israel [19 July 2001]

 Note to Readers:  Though written awhile ago, this prophetic article
 is helpful in understanding Zoran Djindjic, installed in power by the
 coup d'etat of Oct. 5, 2001 and assassinated today, March 12, 2003.
 Another article of interest, dealing in part with Djindjic's role in
 the kidnapping of Slobodan Milosevic, is called, The Treason of
 Vojislav Kostunica. It can be read at
 http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/treas.htm

 -- John Flaherty

 The threat of blackmail is the last refuge of a minor accomplice, the
 small-time crook taking the 'fall', the expendable flunkey of
 Imperial Powers.

 Essentially powerless, as a last resort such a person can always
 threaten to Tell All.

 It is not a strategy with a future.

 That's what struck me, reading Serbian Prime Minister Zoran
 Djindjic's remarkable interview in last Sunday's issue of 'Der
 Spiegel,' the German magazine.

 In the interview, Djindjic confirmed that he and Yugoslav President
 Vojislav Kostunica are liars. He confirmed that they are flunkies for
 the U.S. He confirmed that everything the SPS said in its statement,
 We Accuse: Washington's Aid Promises Are A Traitorous Lie! about
 the 'Donors' Conference and everything they said about Washington's
 disloyalty to its flunkies was true.
 http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/fools.htm

 He confirmed the accusation that we at Emperor's Clothes have made,
 that Washington wants Yugoslavia 'scaled down to zero.'

 Why would Djindjic give such a politically explosive interview?

 In the brief summary preceding the interview, 'Der Spiegel' writes
 that Djindjic feels the West is not being helpful enough, is not
 coming across with sufficient aid, and so on and so forth. None of
 which provides a motive for the extreme content of the interview.

 But at the end of this pre-interview summary, 'Der Spiegel' cuts to
 the quick with the following short comment from Mr. Djindjic: I warn
 the west.

 ==

 I Warn the West!

 ==

 By confirming the truth of charges that have been made by the
 Socialists and other critics, Zoran Djindjic is sending the following
 message to Washington: Zoran Djindjic is highly displeased with the
 way Washington is handling that most important of questions, the
 well-being of Zoran Djindjic; and he is not about to be a fall- guy
 for NATO.

 Why is Djindjic worried?

 He and his sometime partner, Vojislav Kostunica, obeyed U.S. dictates
 and tried to push through the Federal Parliament an unconstitutional
 law to extradite Slobodan Milosevic to the Hague 'Tribunal.' When
 their attempt to pass this illegal legislation failed, Djindjic
 obeyed U.S. dictates and played the open role in kidnapping Mr.
 Milosevic. The kidnapping was followed by massive protests.

 As we have shown in 'The Treason of Vojislav Kostunica,' it is absurd
 to argue that Djindjic is guilty in the kidnapping but that Kostunica
 is innocent - yet, since the kidnapping, that is precisely what
 Kostunica has argued.

 Kostunica's Apology

 Hunching over a long table, Yugoslav President Vojislav Kostunica
 squinted into the television lights, turned to his people and
 confessed that higher powers had gotten the best of him.

 Kostunica said that others in the government had 'overruled' his
 opposition to Slobodan Milosevic's extradition to the U.N. war crimes
 tribunal a week ago. Then, as if that wasn't humiliating enough, he
 was kept in the dark about the handover itself. Like millions of
 ordinary Serbs, he heard about it from the media. ('AP Online' July
 6, 2001)

 Right. Tell us another.

 This 'self criticism' is an attempt to pin the blame on Djindjic. And
 it isn't only Kostunica who is trying to protect Kostunica at
 Djindjic's expense. Indicating which way the wind is blowing,
 virtually the entire Western media plus some critics and would-be
 critics of NATO have chimed in, accepting President Kostunica at his
 word, as if a politician's protestations of patriotism and innocence
 after the fact were proof that he actually opposed the kidnappingof
 Mr. Milosevic, the key defender of Yugoslav sovereignty, but was
 overruled before the fact.

 Not to mention, how can this genius Kostunica tell us he was

[CTRL] Israel Refuses to Disarm Nukes, Not Allowing Inspectors

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http://yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=1149mode=threadorder=0

''Is the United Nations irrelevant?''
Printed on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 @ 08:09:31 EST   (  )

 By Firas Al-Atraqchi
YellowTimes.org Columnist (Canada)

(YellowTimes.org) . In recent weeks, the United Nations has come under
assault from various U.S. Senators as well as members of the U.S. State
Department concerning the issue of Iraq and disarmament. The U.N. has been
accused of being a debating society by U.S. President George Bush, and
has been ostracized as being irrelevant unless it specifically carries out
one function, and one function alone: authorize an invasion of Iraq.

Many Americans who do not know of the U.N.'s great achievements in the
past 58 years, nor of specific U.S. actions to undermine the Security
Council in this period, tout the official U.S. government hook, line and
sinker.

On mainstream North American media, the U.N. is scolded for allowing
members diplomatically to defy U.S. actions and edicts. The uninformed
viewer will immediately take the position that the U.N. acts against the
interests of the U.S. and is a threat to national security.

However, for many people around the world, most notably the impoverished
third world and developing countries, the U.N. is a source of hope and
stability. By no means is the U.N. a perfect system, and this author will
be first in line demanding reform within U.N. chambers. However, it is the
most global, most influential, and most binding international organization
ever established in mankind's modern history. To compare it to the League
of Nations, which was governed primarily by colonial powers and completely
disregarded lesser African and Asian countries, is to celebrate historical
ignorance.

Since its establishment in the wake of the horrors of World War II, the
U.N. has negotiated peaceful resolutions to some 172 conflicts and
deployed more than 42 peacekeeping missions around the world. Free and
fair elections have been sponsored, monitored, and endorsed in more than
45 countries with resounding success in bringing democracy to Cambodia,
Namibia, El Salvador, Eritrea, Mozambique, Nicaragua and South Africa.

In non-political terms, UNICEF (the United Nations Children's Fund) has
spent more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health
care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries. The United Nations
Development Program (UNDP) currently operates in 170 member states and
helps design and implement more than 5000 projects for agriculture,
industry, education, and the environment.

Listing all of the U.N.'s achievements would be too cumbersome; however,
the U.N. currently has projects that promote human rights, combat illegal
people smuggling, maintain arms control, promote nuclear
non-proliferation, provide education on ways to protect the environment,
provide humanitarian aid, eradicate smallpox and other diseases, promote
women's rights, protect the ozone and prevent over-fishing, protect
valuable earth resources, and on and on.

This is an irrelevant organization?

Indeed, the U.N. has thrived despite U.S. efforts and not because of them.
While the U.S. press reminds France who liberated it in World War II and
warns France not to use the veto, it is the U.S. who has used the veto
more than any other nation in the past 20 years. In fact, according to
research conducted by the BBC, the Soviet Union and Russia have used the
vote 120 times, the U.S. 76, the U.K. 32, France 18, and China 5 times.

Thirty-five of the U.S. vetoes have explicitly focused on Israeli policies
in the Middle East. According to the BBC, the latest U.S. veto in
December 2002, was a draft resolution criticizing the killing by Israeli
forces of several United Nations employees and the destruction of the
World Food Program warehouse in the West Bank. The U.S. vetoed this
resolution, thereby implying that the murder of U.N. personnel and
destruction of U.N. infrastructure was permitted.

(The draft resolution concerned itself with the murder of one Ian Hook, a
British citizen working for the United Nations Relief Works Agency
(UNRWA). A U.N. investigation refuted Israeli claims that shots were fired
from the UNRWA compound which necessitated fire on the compound. Hook was
shot three times by Israeli gunfire.)

The current U.S. administration says Iraqi defiance of 17 U.N. resolutions
within the past 12 years makes Iraq a pariah, an outlaw state that must be
dealt with forcibly.

However, by the same token, the U.S. administration does not reveal that
Israel is currently in violation of 32 U.N. resolutions since 1968.
According to U.N. transcripts, Turkey has violated 24 resolutions, and
Morocco has violated 17 resolutions concerning the Western Sahara conflict
and the plight of people of Western Sahara.

There is no threat of invading the aforementioned countries.

Indeed, the issue of Iraq is not simply about U.N. resolutions. However,
the fallacy of violations is

[CTRL] EU Warns Bush on Go-It-Alone War

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http://truthout.org/docs_03/031403D.shtml

  European Union in New Warning on Bush Go-It-Alone War
  By Elaine Sciolino
  New York Times

  Wednesday 12 March 2003

  In another call for the Bush administration to slow its march
 toward war, the foreign relations head of the European Union warned
 today that Europe might withhold money for the reconstruction of
 Iraq if the United States waged war without the approval of the
 Security Council.

  It will be that much more difficult for the E.U. to cooperate
 fully and on a large scale also in the longer-term reconstruction
 process if events unfold without proper U.N. cover and if the
 member states remain divided, said Chris Patten, the European
 Union's External Relations Commissioner.

  Speaking during a debate in the European Parliament in
 Strasbourg, the British official added that an American war
 campaign without the legal support of the United Nations would do
 enormous damage to the authority of the United Nations, the NATO
 alliance and relations between Europe and the United States.

  The specter of war has caused a deep and bitter split in the
 15-country European Union the world's biggest aid donor with
 Britain and Spain embracing the American call to war and France and
 Germany calling for continued international weapons inspections
 under United Nations auspices.

  The heads of state of the European Union will meet for a
 regularly scheduled meeting in Brussels next week and Iraq is
 expected to dominate the agenda.

  In the past I have sometimes been accused of issuing a threat
 of E.U. noncooperation if the United States chooses to proceed with
 U.N. backing, he said. That is not my point, he said. I am
 making, rather, a simple observation of fact: that if it comes to
 war, it will be very much easier to make a case for generosity if
 there is no dispute about the legitimacy of the military action
 that has taken place.

   Mr. Patten noted that the European Union's budget is already
 heavily committed, adding, It is of the greatest importance that
 if a war is waged in Iraq, the U.N. should authorize the decision
 to attack.

  Mr. Patten made his remarks during a debate in the European
 Parliament in which deputies expressed their overwhelming
 opposition to a war waged only by the Untied States.

  The European Union would be more willing to spend money on
 postwar reconstruction and relief aid in Iraq if the legitimacy of
 the war was clearly authorized under a Security Council mandate.

  The Bush administration has said that it is impossible to
 predict the cost of postwar reconstruction. But Mr. Patten's
 remarks follow an assessment made by the New York-based Council on
 Foreign Relations that estimates the cost of reconstruction and
 peacekeeping at $20 billion a year. The E.U. had so far earmarked
 15 million euros ($16.5 million) in relief aid for Iraq this year.

  Mr. Patten also questioned the Bush administration's assertion
 that the overthrow of President Saddam Hussein of Iraq by war will
 help combat terrorism and spread democracy in the Middle East.

  As a general rule, are wars not more likely to recruit
 terrorists than to deter them? he said. It is hard to build
 democracy at the barrel of a gun, when history suggests it is more
 usually the product of long internal development in a society.

  What I'm absolutely sure about, he added, is that to invade
 Iraq, while failing to bring peace to the Middle East, would create
 exactly the sort of conditions in which terrorism would be likely
 to thrive.

  And Mr. Patten joined a chorus of other European leaders in
 criticizing the United States for failing to publish a
 much-promised road map for Israeli-Palestinian peace drawn up
 last year by the United States, the European Union, the United
 Nations and Russia.

  During the debate today, all of the principal parliamentary
 groups underscored the need for Security Council authority to go to
 war.

  Unilateral action would be a violation of the charter of the
 United Nations, said the Socialist floor leader, Enrique Baron
 Crespo. An attack under these conditions would create fertile
 ground for international terrorism.

  The Liberal group leader, Graeme Watson, said: It is claimed
 in London, Washington and Madrid that war could be short, swift and
 successful. With U.N. support this could indeed be the case. But
 without it, in a conflict which divides the international
 community, we could be on the brink of another Hundred Years' War
 which could bring down regimes well beyond Iraq.

A

[CTRL] Cheney Raking in Blood Money from Pentagon Contractor

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http://truthout.org/docs_03/031403C.shtml

 Editor's Note: Read it again - Blood Money.

 Cheney is Still Paid by Pentagon Contractor
 Robert Bryce and Julian Borger
 The Guardian

 Wednesday 12 March 2003

 Bush deputy gets up to $1m from firm with Iraq oil deal

 Halliburton, the Texas company which has been awarded the
 Pentagon's contract to put out potential oil-field fires in Iraq
 and which is bidding for postwar construction contracts, is still
 making annual payments to its former chief executive, the
 vice-president Dick Cheney.

 The payments, which appear on Mr Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure
 statement, are in the form of deferred compensation of up to $1m
 (£600,000) a year.

 When he left Halliburton in 2000 to become George Bush's running
 mate, he opted not to receive his leaving payment in a lump sum but
 instead have it paid to him over five years, possibly for tax
 reasons.

 An aide to the vice president said yesterday: This is money that
 Mr Cheney was owed by the corporation as part of his salary for the
 time he was employed by Halliburton and which was a fixed amount
 paid to him over time.

 The aide said the payment was even insured so that it would not be
 affected even if Halliburton went bankrupt, to ensure there was no
 conflict of interest.

 Also, the vice president has nothing whatsoever to do with the
 Pentagon bidding process, the aide added.

 The company would not say how much the payments are. The obligatory
 disclosure statement filled by all top government officials says
 only that they are in the range of $100,000 and $1m. Nor is it
 clear how they are calculated.

 Halliburton is one of five large US corporations - the others are
 the Bechtel Group, Fluor Corp, Parsons Corp, and the Louis Berger
 Group - invited to bid for contracts in what may turn out to be the
 biggest reconstruction project since the second world war.

 It is estimated to be worth up to $900m for the preliminary work
 alone, such as rebuilding Iraq's hospitals, ports, airports and
 schools.

 The contract winners will be able to establish a presence in
 post-Saddam Iraq that should give them an invaluable edge in
 winning future contracts.

 The defence department contract awarded to the Halliburton
 subsidiary, Kellog, Brown  Root (KBR), to control oil fires if
 Saddam Hussein sets the well heads alight, will put the company in
 an excellent position to bid for huge contracts when Iraq's oil
 industry is rehabilitated.

 KBR has already benefited considerably from the war on terror. It
 has so far been awarded contracts worth nearly $33m to build the
 detention camp at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba for al-Qaida suspects.

 Asked whether the payments to Mr Cheney represented a conflict of
 interest, Halliburton's spokeswoman, Wendy Hall, said: We have
 been working as a government contractor since the 1940s. Since this
 time, KBR has become the premier provider of logistics and support
 services to all branches of the military.

 In the five years Mr Cheney was at the helm, Halliburton nearly
 doubled the amount of business it did with the government to
 $2.3bn. The company also more than doubled its political
 contributions to $1.2m, overwhelmingly to Republican candidates.

 Mr Cheney sold most of his Halliburton shares when he left the
 company, but retained stock options worth about $8m. He arranged to
 pay any profits to charity.

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[CTRL] No Blind Watch Maker

2003-03-13 Thread John Miller

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More of the tedious number crunching religious stuff.

But at last it beginning to make sense for me!

Thanks
John D. Miller
London, UK

PS Keyed this morning so unpolished.


No Blind Watch Maker

For many years I have wondered about the Time Controls that have been set
into the clockwork mechanism of Earths journey in time that shows there is
a prearranged clockwork mechanism, and also shows that God is no Blind Watch
Maker.

Of course many of those teachers of the Christian religion are disinterested
in any idea that God has a serious time table, thus showing rather less
respect for God than they should. And most of others of no religious
inclination or persuasion will take little notice or care about the obvious
preplanned arrangements of the many midnight hours that have been struck
throughout history, until that is they hear the bell toll themselves, and
then it will be too late so to speak.

OK, the clockwork mechanism of Gods calendar seems to be that of two
different Earth years, that is the 365.2422 days (or similar, for the Earth
is slowing down about 0.53 seconds per 100 years), and a year of 360 days
for the Earths twin, that is the metaphysical Earth, called Hades, where
many who die on Earth go to in their spiritual bodies. That is bodies that
seem to be rather similar to the body they had when alive, but bodies that
have entered into another set of four dimensions at death.

The 1,260 Day Count Down Clock

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, [even] to the
time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be
increased. Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one
on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the
bank of the river. And [one] said to the man clothed in linen, which [was]
upon the waters of the river, How long [shall it be to] the end of these
wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which [was] upon the waters
of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven,
and sware by him that liveth for ever that [it shall be] for a time, times,
and an half; (1,260 days) and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the
power of the holy people, all these [things] shall be finished. And I heard,
but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what [shall be] the end of
these [things]? And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed
up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made
white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked
shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Dan 12:4-10

So from Adams creation in 3871BC says I, and 3900 years before the
Crucifixion on Friday April 7th AD30, and 3871BC less 1656 years told in the
Book of Genesis, that is 1656 x 360 days is 1632.23 years, and so the Flood
began below says I, in May, 2239BC.

Noahs Ark  Messiah 126

Counting from the door of Noahs Ark being shut, seven days before the Flood
commenced, it was seemingly May 17th 2239BC and 2,268 years before Ascension
Day May 17th AD30. And 2,268 years is 18 x 126, thus the reference number
126 is the reference for the spirit person within all humanity, a spirit
that clothes a persons soul, a spirit body called a son of Man. The life
of Christ from his circumcision on October 8th 6BC until Omer Day, that is
Passover, that is Saturday, April 8th AD30, the full day Christ was
preaching to the prisoners in the Earth below, is 12,600 days. That is
time, times and half a time x 10 times, which is 35 Earth years below. And
I repeat from when the door of Noahs Ark was shut by God, to when the
Messiah stood upon the hillside near Jerusalem, 40 days after the
Crucifixion is 18 times 126 at 2268 Earth years above.

And the Flood below on Hades, lasted 372 days, + 7 days is 379 days, that is
May 30th 2238BC on the Earth above. And I say Noah and Co. crossed over
dimensions during the Flood, and arrived on the mountainside of Mount Ararat
(17,000 feet) during a local Flood on Earth. On the Earths twin below all
were dead, including the demonic spirits of the 11 feet giants who once
walked the Earth above.

The Clockwork Enigma of September 11th 2001

From the end of the Flood on May 30th 2238BC when the door to Noahs Ark was
opened and the rainbow appeared, until the destruction of the Twin Towers,
killing nearly 3,000 people on September 11th 2001 is 4,238.28236 years,
which by using the calendar of the Earth below, is 4,300 years of 360 days.
And 4300 x 430 feet is twice 924,500 square feet, the area covering the
Great Pyramid, the Shroud.

September 11th is day 253 of the year and 253 is made up of 126 and 127. And
Abrahams wife Sarah, the mother of kings died aged 127 years. The number
127, the reference for Eve is formed out of 12.6 x 12.6 x 0.8 as 127.0080.

The Church was established on May 28th AD30, that is 12,650 days after the
circumcision of Jesus Christ on October 8th 6BC, and 12,650 x 2 is 12,600 +

Re: [CTRL] America's Secret establishment in mainstream booksto res

2003-03-13 Thread Dale Stonehouse

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At my local
Barnes  Noble you can buy books by Al Martin and Uri Dowbenko as well as
the excellent Seeds of Fire by Gordon Thomas. So censorship seems to
beabsent in the hinterlands. It seems you can go after the Bush family as
long as you leave those ofa certain religion out of
it.

By my observation
Borders stocks everything it deems sellable and some things that are not. But I
have never seen Sutton's books, even in the many used bookstores I haunt. On the
other handmost bookstores around here have stocked and restocked Bill
Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse for over 10 years now - presumably because it is a
consistent seller.

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  Lector- A first has been accomplished. Antony Sutton's
  groundbreaking expose on the Yale senior secret society, America's Secret
  establishment, an introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones is available in
  Borders and soon Barnes  Noble. Antony 'passed away' three weeks
  after this first hard-cover edition. Please keep Antony's research
  alive and purchase some copies of his books, so that we can continue our
  efforts to bring suppressed materials to wider distribution.
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Re: [CTRL] Answers about the pending Iraq conflict

2003-03-13 Thread Dale Stonehouse

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I think they left out My dad can beat up your dad and the best one of all:
OH YEAH?

 Snappy Answers to Leftists
 By Tom Adkins
 Sierra Times | March 11, 2003

 Tired of those stupid liberal soundbytes about the impending war
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Will Fed let banks short commodities without limit?

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[CTRL] US-led invasion of Iraq

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www.albawaba.com
March 12, 2003 Nasrallah: US-led invasion of Iraq to lead to Israel's
elimination

A US-led invasion of Iraq will awaken Arabs and Muslims, ultimately leading
to Israel's destruction and an end to American dominance in the region,
according to the leader of Lebanon's Hizbullah movement.

Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah referred to Washington's desire to get rid of Iraqi
President Saddam Hussein's regime during a Tuesday night address to
supporters, AP reported.

The Americans may come and succeed in toppling this or that regime, but
this could be a blessing in disguise, Nasrallah told thousands of Shiites
marking the anniversary of the 7th-century death of Imam Hussein,
grandson of Islam's Prophet Muhammad.

This American invasion will lead to an unprecedented awakening within
this (Islamic) nation and among its youths, and to a holy war and
revolutionary (movement) placing this nation before an inevitable decisive
battle, he said.

Despite divisions and weakness plaguing the Arab and Muslim worlds,
Nasrallah said: We are heading toward the end of divisions and
disintegration and to the elimination of the state of Israel from this region
and the termination of American arrogance and hegemony over our
countries and our resources. (Albawaba.com)



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[CTRL] What did the Iraqi defector say?

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Opinion/Editorial
What did the Iraqi defector say?

Chris Krom and Rania Masri, Electronic Iraq

11 March 2003

Last week Newsweek magazine dropped a news bombshell, blowing away
key pieces of President Bush's case for war -- even as we hear that an Iraq
invasion is a foregone conclusion. In the March 3 issue, Newsweek
reporter John Barry exposed testimony from a defecting Iraqi weapons
chief stating that, by the mid-1990s, Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
had been destroyed.

The source of this explosive news -- which disproves Bush's central
assertion that Iraq has a vast stockpile of weapons from the Persian Gulf
war that has not been accounted for -- was Lt. Gen. Hussein Kamel. A
son-in-law of Saddam Hussein, Kamel was killed in Iraq in 1996 after
smuggling crates of secret information to the U.N. about Iraq's weapons
programs.

Ironically, Kamel has also been Exhibit A in Bush's case for war, cited by
Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and most recently Stephen Hadley,
deputy national security adviser, who told the Chicago Tribune that it was
because of information provided... by Lt. Gen. Hussein Kamel that we
know Iraq cheated on weapons programs.

But Barry obtained original notes from Kamel's 1995 U.N. testimony. What
Kamel actually said, Barry reports, is that after the Gulf War, Iraq
destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons stocks and the missiles to
deliver them.

Kamel's report was hushed up by the U.N. inspectors, Newsweek says.
For its part, the Bush team has conveniently been citing only the part of
Kamel's testimony in which he stated that Iraq still had blueprints and
equipment for future weapons production.

Last week, CIA officials again tried to quiet the story, calling it incorrect,
bogus, wrong, untrue. But two days later, a transcript posted online
shows Kamel plainly stating that all weapons -- biological, chemical, missile,
nuclear -- were destroyed, belying Bush's grounds for war.

Haven't heard about the Kamel scandal? Not surprising. Despite the near-
fatal blow it deals to Bush's basis for war -- and more disturbingly, how it
implicates government agencies in suppressing inconvenient facts -- to
date, no TV networks and just a few newspapers have picked up the
Newsweek story.

The Kamel episode is just the latest in a two-month barrage of revelations
that have reduced to rubble Bush's claim that the small, impoverished
nation of Iraq, crawling with arms inspectors, poses an imminent threat.

First came news that Powell's show-and-tell before the U.N. earlier this
year was, according to the Financial Times, based on plagiarized and out-
of-date material. Then Hans Blix reported that U.N. inspectors had
followed up on each of Powell's leads, and found them to be garbage.
None turned up weapons; journalists scoured one supposed poisons
factory and found only a bakery.

Astonishingly, Bush also insists on alleging ties between Saddam Hussein
and al-Qaeda terrorists, even though the charge has been flatly denied by
British intelligence, who say there's no link, and CIA officials, who told
The New York Times we just don't think (the link) is there.

What is known is that an Iraq invasion would kill lots of innocent people. A
little-noticed report from U.N. relief workers predicts a humanitarian
emergency of exceptional scale and magnitude, with 30 percent of Iraqi
children under age five at risk of death.

At home, American soldiers will return dead, or will end up disabled, like
149,000 veterans from the Gulf War. An invasion would rob up to $200
billion from jobs, health care and schools.

Is such devastation really worth it, when we have the viable alternative of
U.N. inspections? The France-bashing loonies may be viewing even french
fries with suspicion, but they have yet to refute President Jacques
Chirac's point that post-Gulf War inspections destroyed more Iraq weapons
than all of America's firepower.

No wonder that -- according to the rallying cry of 10 million protesters
around the world on Feb. 15 -- the world says no to war. A few
governments have caved in to Bush's Sopranos- style arm-twisting and
bribes. But the vast majority of the world's people stand resolute against a
war they view as arrogant, dangerous and unnecessary.

Can the war be stopped? Bush's battle obsession does not inspire
confidence. The damage to our country's credibility and world standing
has already been done. But millions will continue to demand that Bush
listen to the evidence, and the will of the people, and say no to war.

Chris Kromm and Dr. Rania Masri are co-directors of the Southern Peace
Research  Education Center, based at the Institute for Southern Studies
in Durham

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[CTRL] The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy

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The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy
Final Judgement Reviewed by Mark Braver

There seems to be a lot of misperception of what Final Judgment does and does not say about the JFK assassination. The book does not say that "the Jews killed JFK." That's horse manure.

What the book does say is that: When New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison charged businessman Clay Shaw with participation in the JFK assassination conspiracy Garrison stumbled upon the Israeli Mossad connection to the murder of President Kennedy. Shaw served on the board of a shadowy corporation known as Permindex. A primary shareholder in Permindex was the Banque De Credit International of Geneva, founded by Tibor Rosenbaum, an arms procurer and financier for the Mossad.

What's more, the Mossad-sponsored Swiss bank was the chief "money laundry" for Meyer Lansky, the head of the international crime syndicate and an Israeli loyalist whose operations meshed closely on many fronts with the American CIA.

The chairman of Permindex was Louis M. Bloomfield of Montreal, a key figure in the Israeli lobby and an operative of the Bronfman family of Canada, long-time Lansky associates and among Israel's primary international patrons.

In the pages of "Final Judgment" the Israeli connection to the JFK assassination is explored in frightening--and fully documented--detail. For example, did you know:

. That JFK was engaged in a bitter secret conflict with Israel over U.S. East policy and that Israel's prime minister resigned in disgust, saying JFK's stance threatened Israel's very survival?

. That JFK's successor, Lyndon Johnson, immediately reversed America's policy toward Israel?

. That the top Mafia figures often alleged to be behind the JFK assassination were only front men for Meyer Lansky?

. That the CIA's liaison to the Mossad, James Angleton, was a prime mover behind the cover-up of the JFK assassination?

Why didn't Oliver Stone, in his famous movie "JFK" not mention any of this? It turns out the chief financial backer of Stone's film was longtime Mossad figure, Arnon Milchan, Israel's biggest arms dealer.

The very fact that the Israeli lobby has gone through such great lengths to try to smear Michael Collins Piper and to try to discredit Final Judgment gives the book great credibility. If the book was really so silly or so unconvincing, it doesn't seem likely that groups such as the Anti-Defamation League would go out of their way to try to suppress the book as they have.

The fact is that Piper demonstrates that Israel did indeed have a very strong motive to want to get JFK out of the way and that numerous people who have been linked in other writings to the JFK conspiracy were (as Piper documents) also in the sphere of influence of Israel's Mossad. Not only Clay Shaw in New Orleans, but also James Angleton at the CIA, who was Israel's strongest advocate at the CIA and also the CIA's liaison to the Mossad. The Israeli connection is indeed "the missing link in the JFK assassination conspiracy."

The "Reader from Chicago" who wrote the review of Final Judgment posted here is really off the beam and I suspect he (or she) is deliberately distorting what Piper's book does say in order to try to discourage people from reading it.

The fact is that Piper's book documents (quite clearly, in my estimation) not only the means, opportunity and the motive for Israeli Mossad involvement in the assassination (working in conjunction with the CIA), but it is also quite fascinating and very interesting read. "Boring" is the last word I'd use to describe the book, and it is certainly not "poorly written."

What's more, the book is not--I repeat--not "anti-Semitic" and the book has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the subject of the Holocaust. In fact, anybody familiar with any of the standard writings on the JFK assassination will recognize the names of some of the key players in the scenario Piper documents: Clay Shaw, David Ferrie, Guy Banister and James J. Angleton of the CIA--and none of them were Jewish. So where this reviewer gets off saying that Piper finds "a Jew under every rock" is beyond me. I have read literally hundreds of books and magazine articles and other material on the JFK assassination and not in a single one of them--with the exception of Final Judgment--did I ever learn that President John F. Kennedy was trying to stop Israel from building the nuclear bomb and that this literally touched off a "secret war" behind the scenes between JFK and Israel's prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, who resigned (among other reasons) in disgust over JFK's policies with Israel. In fact, Israeli historian Avner Cohen in his book, Israel and the Bomb, documents this quite thoroughly.

And in Final Judgment Piper also outlines some interesting Israeli connections by people who have been linked to the JFK assassination and cover-up, including

Re: [CTRL] Check this out on FrontPageMag.com!

On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 09:19 PM, William Shannon wrote:
So now it's our job to be the world's supercop?
There are dangerous dictators all over the world...many who are far more dangerous than tin-horn Saddam Hussein. Why not go after Castro? Or Mugabe? Why Saddam?

The facts are clear, this is none of our business and we are simple doing the bidding of Israel and big oil. War of aggression is illegal under international law and Nazis were hanged for it at Nuremburg. What's the difference here? We're going to attack and decimate a country that is not a threat to us in any way, shape or form. And then we're going to do the same to Syria, Iran, Libya, the Sudan and god knows who else. It's insanity. Meanwhile, as Napoleon Bush crosses the Rubicon our economy is failing...

Bill.

Who else can keep a semblance of peace and order in the world besides the US?

Certainly not the United Nations, an impotent organization which is overrun with representatives from the very tyrannical, oppressive regimes which need reform.

As to the ridiculous ( and ubiquitous) charge that it's all about big oil. . .

Use a little common sense.

Which would be simpler and easier - to appease Saddam Hussein like the French and the Germans have done in order to strike sweet deals for Iraqui oil, regardless of the atrocities this madman is committing against his own people, and the threat he couses to other nations, or to stand against him, depose him, and return control of the country's resources to the citizens?

Again, which would be simpler and easier - to protect the only functional, free-economy democracy in the Middle East, Israel, or to allow known murderers like Yasser Arafat to continue to milk the Palestinians to serve as his personal cheering squad and power base? If Arafat had any concern for the Palestinian people, he could have good living conditions and an economy as strong as Israel's. After all, Israel managed to turn the same harsh environment into an area teeming with manufacturing, research and agriculture. What has Arafat's leadership caused the Palestinians to produce? Homicidal maniacs and whiners.

Iraq does indeed pose a threat - not only to us but the entire world. That's why the impotent United Nations decreed that Hussein must disarm - 11 years ago. Iraqui's have suffered under UN-approved sanctions because Hussein has not complied with the terms established which would remove those sanctions. Wars of aggression are despicable. But this is not a war of aggression. We don't want to annex Iraq as the Germans did the Sudetenland - we want to return Iraq to it's own people, free of a tyrannical madman.

As to your continuing references to Napoleon Bush. . . Can you please list, in alphabetical order the countries which consititute this imaginary empire? Which nations pay their taxes to us? Which nations pay us tribute? Instead, why don't you balance the zero-entry empire list against all of the nations which we support.

In fact, who gives more financial aid to the Palestinians than any other nation in the world? The United States.

It seems so many who criticize our policies suffer from a pathological self-hatred.

Ray

[CTRL] Too Many Hitlers

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So Many Hitlers
February 27, 2003

by Joe Sobran

 A witty reader with a long memory likens American
foreign policy to Joe Louis's boxing career. Joe Louis,
the Brown Bomber, was the heavyweight champ before and
after World War II who, having destroyed all his worthy
opponents, proceeded to take on, with unbecoming
frequency, a lot of unworthy ones. Sportswriters
derisively nicknamed these hapless unworthies the Bum-
of-the-Month Club.

 The United States seems to have a Hitler-of-the-
Month Club. As the Soviet Union waned and collapsed, a
new series of enemies began to emerge, each in turn
likened to Hitler as a global threat: the Ayatollah
Khomeini, Muammar al-Qaddafi, Manuel Noriega, Saddam
Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic, Osama bin Laden, and now
Saddam Hussein again. Globally, these were equivalent to
Joe Louis's bums, but U.S. propaganda has dignified them
as Hitlers.

 Just as the United States has had its 9/11, even Joe
sometimes got a rude shock. In 1942, I believe it was,
Tony Galento, a roly-poly slugger from New Jersey who
trained on beer, landed a punch that knocked Joe on the
seat of his trunks, but by round four Tony had been
rendered unconscious. (The history-minded will note that
he later took bit parts in movies like ON THE
WATERFRONT.)

 Today Joe's legend has faded; he is best remembered
for beating Max Schmeling, Hitler's boy. Today, in fact,
Hitler still defines just about everything, one way and
another. His name is invoked to settle all arguments. You
want war? So did Hitler. You don't want war? You're like
the people who appeased Hitler.

 Hitler was not only bad, but infinitely bad. No
price is too great to pay for vanquishing a Hitler --
even a metaphorical Hitler. Thus Andrew Sullivan, urging
war on Iraq in TIME, points out, The war against Hitler
killed millions -- but it was just.

 Was it ever! Not only did World War II cost 50
million lives, it gave Stalin a huge swath of Europe and
brought the world into the nuclear era. But it was all
worth it! We got rid of Hitler!

 Once Hitler is introduced into the conversation, and
he usually is, any sense of measure disappears. All-out
war becomes imperative, and it's petty to ask what the
consequences may be. When you're budgeting for Hitler,
cost is no object.

 This might not be a problem if we were dealing with
one supremely evil figure who died in 1945 (despite
rumors that he'd survived and legged it to Argentina).
But there are so doggone many Hitlers, every one of them
a threat to world peace. Uncle Sam has to be quick on his
feet to stamp 'em all out as fast as they spring up.

 Next week will mark the 50th anniversary of the
death of Stalin (and of Sergei Prokofiev, the great
Russian composer, if anyone cares). Stalin killed several
times as many people as Hitler, but he had one redeeming
virtue: he was against Hitler! True, he formed what might
have seemed the beginning of a beautiful friendship with
the German dictator, but Hitler, by turning on him, saved
his reputation.

 Soon Stalin was a chum of Winston Churchill and
Franklin Roosevelt again, as liberals cheered. He even
wound up as sole proprietor of Poland, which he'd thought
he'd have to share with Hitler.

 Today even liberals agree that Stalin was a bit of a
stinker, all things considered, but Uncle Joe is by no
means the symbol of evil Hitler has become. Though he too
could be rough on minority groups, he talked the talk
about democracy, equality, and diversity, so he can be
excused for not always walking the walk; and the sort of
minorities he wiped out weren't the sort who trouble the
Western conscience overmuch anyway. (Who cares about
Estonians, for Pete's sake?)

 So, to this day, there is no Stalin-of-the-Month
Club, and though he has had numerous imitators, including
some very able ones, none of them has been designated a
new Stalin against whom it behooves us to make war.
Nobody remembers Enver Hoxha nowadays. Even Fidel Castro
seems more like a relic of the sunny Kennedy era than a
Stalin.

 Kim Jong Il is the genuine article -- indeed, a
rather flamboyant Stalin -- but, after all, he is no
Hitler! We can live with him. He even brings out the
coquettish side of Madeleine Albright.

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A Bordeaux doctor was suspended for six months on Tuesday for having his
mistress's perfectly sane husband certified and committed to an asylum in
a straitjacket.

The French Medical Association's disciplinary committee ruled that Jean-
Marie Delbosc, a gynaecologist often called on as a court expert, had
persuaded several colleagues to issue wholly untruthful medical
certificates on the mental health of his rival.

One, signed by a close friend of Delbosc who has himself been suspended
for three months, said the husband, a local dentist named Martial
Corlouer, was suffering from an acute paranoid delirium evolving towards a
major risk of violence.

Others described him as unstable and potentially dangerous, allowing
Delbosc and his mistress to obtain, in the second half of 1998, an order
from the local prefect for Mr Corlouer's forced internment in a psychiatric
hospital.

Only after 48 days in a canvas straitjacket did the unfortunate dentist,
with the aid of an independent expert, manage to convince the
authorities of his sanity, and eventually secure his release.

He immediately lodged a formal complaint against persons unknown,
alleging a plot to remove him from the
scene and make it easier for his wife to divorce him.

The medical association made no pronouncement on the alleged plot, but
found Delbosc guilty of knowingly using false health certificates and his
friend Denis Goube guilty of issuing a certificate based on imperfections in
the clinical examination of the patient.

Mr Corlouer said yesterday he was busy campaigning for stricter law on
the commitment of the insane, and discussing the sale of his story to a
Paris film producer.

The Guardian

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Yeah ok Ray. Self-hatred? And pathological at that huh?

Ray, apparently you're fine with empire-building and utterly disregarding domestic problems but I tend towards an America FIRST view and value the Constitution...to you both America and our Constitution are clearly secondary at best.

If you are so deluded as to believe that Iraq is a threat to ANYONE - much less America - I can't help you. Keep getting your "news" from the neo-cons on FoxNews and talk radio...Goebbels would be proud of these shills. Don't dig any deeper than you have to to see for yourself what's REALLY happening. If it isn't in the Washington Times or the Weekly Standard it must be wrong.

I see that your primary allegiance seems to be to Israel and therein lies our differences. I cannot change your lack of enthusiasm for what WAS the American way. Maybe Tel Aviv calls??

We give aid to many countries and we ought to cease and desist all aid forthwith.
But if we're going to be the military wing of the UN we ought to be consistent and also enforce UN resolutions against Israel. At the very least we ought to suspend all aid until Israel comes into compliance with each and every one of the 70+ resolutions that they are in violation of.

See Ray, I am offended as an American in out meddling in the affairs of other SOVEREIGN nations...it's none of our business what Iraq or Gambia or Uraguay do internally just as what we do is not their business. You seem to be very cavalier with national sovereignty and I could see such an attitude backfiring on us. One day China or Russia may feel the need for "regime change" here...and people like you set precedent.

Are you also going to apologize for the next round of Napoleon Bush's empire building in Syria and Iran? When does it end Ray? And how did the so-called "war on terror" morph into making the Middle East safe for Israel?

Are you a man Ray or are you a sheep?

Bill.

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Who else can keep a semblance of peace and order in the world besides
the US?

Certainly not the United Nations, an impotent organization which is
overrun with representatives from the very tyrannical, oppressive
regimes which need reform.

As to the ridiculous ( and ubiquitous) charge that it's all about big
oil. . .

Use a little common sense.

Which would be simpler and easier - to appease Saddam Hussein like the
French and the Germans have done in order to strike sweet deals for
Iraqui oil, regardless of the atrocities this madman is committing
against his own people, and the threat he couses to other nations, or
to stand against him, depose him, and return control of the country's
resources to the citizens?

Again, which would be simpler and easier - to protect the only
functional, free-economy democracy in the Middle East, Israel, or to
allow known murderers like Yasser Arafat to continue to milk the
Palestinians to serve as his personal cheering squad and power base? If
Arafat had any concern for the Palestinian people, he could have good
living conditions and an economy as strong as Israel's. After all,
Israel managed to turn the same harsh environment into an area teeming
with manufacturing, research and agriculture. What has Arafat's
leadership caused the Palestinians to produce? Homicidal maniacs and
whiners.

Iraq does indeed pose a threat - not only to us but the entire world.
That's why the impotent United Nations decreed that Hussein must disarm
- 11 years ago. Iraqui's have suffered under UN-approved sanctions
because Hussein has not complied with the terms established which would
remove those sanctions. Wars of aggression are despicable. But this is
not a war of aggression. We don't want to annex Iraq as the Germans did
the Sudetenland - we want to return Iraq to it's own people, free of a
tyrannical madman.

As to your continuing references to "Napoleon" Bush. . . Can you
please list, in alphabetical order the countries which consititute this
imaginary empire? Which nations pay their taxes to us? Which nations
pay us tribute? Instead, why don't you balance the zero-entry empire
list against all of the nations which we support.

In fact, who gives more financial aid to the Palestinians than any
other nation in the world? The United States.

It seems so many who criticize our policies suffer from a pathological
self-hatred.

Ray

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Yes, indeed, that is why I am asking for folks' help in getting his works established as amust carry item for stores. 

I actually saw a brand new hardbound copy of America's Secret Establishment at my local Borders just yesterday. I've got a softcover edition but am considering upgrading to this edition since it's right there!

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Google News shortcut for George Soros. http://news.google.com/news?q=george+soros
For those who don't know, Soros has helped fund many cannabis and drug reform organizations and ballot initiatives. By the way, he is worth billions of dollars.
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The Korea Herald. March 13 2003. http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2003/03/13/200303130033.asp
[George Soros]The bubble of American supremacy
As American and British troops prepare to invade Iraq, public opinion inthese countries does not support war without U.N. authorization. Therest of the world is overwhelmingly opposed to war. Yet Saddam Husseinis regarded as a tyrant who needs to be disarmed, and the U.N. SecurityCouncil unanimously passed Resolution 1441 which demanded that Saddamdestroy his weapons of mass destruction. What caused this disconnect?
Iraq is the first instance when the Bush doctrine is being applied andit is provoking an allergic reaction. The Bush doctrine is built on twopillars: (1) The United States will do everything in its power tomaintain its unquestioned military supremacy; and (2) the United Statesarrogates the right to preemptive action.
These pillars support two classes of sovereignty: American sovereignty,which takes precedence over international treaties and obligations, andthe sovereignty of all other states. This is reminiscent of GeorgeOrwell's Animal Farm: All animals are equal, but some animals are moreequal than others. To be sure, the Bush doctrine is not stated starkly;it is buried in Orwellian doublespeak. The doublespeak is needed becausethe doctrine contradicts American values.
The Bush administration believes that international relations arerelations of power; legality and legitimacy are mere decorations. Thisbelief is not false, but it exaggerates one aspect of reality to theexclusion of others. The aspect it stresses is military power. But noempire could ever be held together by military power alone.
Yet that belief guides the Bush administration. Prime Minister ArielSharon of Israel shares the same belief and look where that has led. Theidea that might is right cannot be reconciled with the idea of an opensociety. Hence the need for Orwellian doublespeak.
But nobody is in possession of the ultimate truth. Those who make suchclaims are bound to be wrong at times, and so can enforce their claimsonly by coercion and repression. Bush makes no allowance for thepossibility that he may be wrong, and he tolerates no dissent. If youare not with us, you are with the terrorists, he proclaims.
Of course, the presence of extremist views in the executive branch doesnot make America a totalitarian state. The principles of open societyare enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the institutions ofAmerican democracy are protected by the Constitution. There are checksand balances, and the President must obtain the support of the people.Nevertheless, the Bush doctrine could do untold harm before it isabandoned - as eventually it will be.
I see parallels between the Bush administration's pursuit of Americansupremacy and a boom-bust process or bubble in the stock market. Bubblesdo not arise out of thin air. They have a solid basis in reality, butmisconception distorts reality. Here, the dominant position of theUnited States is the reality, the pursuit of American supremacy themisconception.
For a while, reality reinforces the misconception, but eventually thegap between reality and its false interpretation becomes unsustainable.During the self-reinforcing phase, the misconception may be tested, andwhen a test is successful the misconception is reinforced. This widensthe gap, leading to an eventual reversal. The later

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Published on Monday, March 10, 2003 by CommonDreams.org

The Bush  God Scam: Don't Buy It

by Ira Chernus

Bush  God, the cover of Newsweek announces, as if the two were business partners.
That's what the White House wants us to think. It is mounting a massive campaign to 
paint
the president as a man on a divine mission, a man who sees himself as an agent of God.

Some of the reasons for this PR ploy are obvious. It's so much easier to go to war if 
we
believe that God is on our, and our leader's, side. Wrap the flag around God, and who 
can
question your moral credibility? If Bush stands with God, those who actively oppose his
war must be down below with Satan. If Bush is so sincerely religious, those who 
question
his motives must be misguided. Such a spiritual man would never send others to their
death for crass motives like power and oil. Surely, he must have higher ethical
principles in view.

There is a risk in this strategy. It makes Bush look like a fanatic. That could easily
drive some of the undecided into the antiwar camp.

But making Bush look like a fanatic might very well be the point. If he really believes
he is on a mission from God, why would he care what the French, the Russians, or even 
the
American people think? Nothing can stop a religious fanatic from doing God's work on
earth. As antiwar sentiment mounts, the White House may be using this Bush and God
gambit as a way to say: Forget it. March and lobby as much as you want. Nothing can 
stop
this Christian soldier from marching out to war.

This is a new twist on Richard Nixon's famous madman theory. Nixon wanted the North
Vietnamese to believe that he was so irrational, he could easily nuke them into 
oblivion
if they did not settle the war on his terms. Now the White House says that George W. is
so irrationally sunk in his Christian beliefs, he must have U.S. policy settled on his
terms.

The irony is that the White House has to spin this story precisely because George W.
keeps turning back from the brink, as more and more of the world turns against his war.
Remember when we were told that the war would have to start by February, to get it over
with before the desert turned too hot? Then, as diplomatic resistance to war mounted,
nature's deadline was put off until later in the spring.

On March 7, facing a French and Russian veto in the Security Council, the U.S. did
another backpedal. It amended its supposedly final resolution to include a deadline 
of
March 17. All the amendment says is that Iraq must show it is disarming in good faith 
by
the 17th. But most Security Council members, including the French and Russians, say 
Iraq
is already disarming in good faith. So come the 17th, the Security Council will remain 
as
paralyzed as ever. The amended resolution has no real teeth. It is another U.S.
surrender.

But every time the Bush administration caves in to diplomatic pressure, the White House
puts out the story that it's more determined than ever to go to war. And the U.S. media
dutifully buy it. The media heralded the March 17 date as a drop-dead deadline, an
absolute proof that Bush will indeed have his heavenly war, come hell, high water, or 
UN
veto. Of course, they may be right. But if you look at what the administration does, 
not
what it says, the evidence points in the opposite direction.

The pressure is mounting against war. It would be a bad mistake for antiwar forces to
swallow the line about Bush and God as proof that our protests are useless. The New
York Times editorial board and its star pundit, Thomas Friedman, have come out against
war. Even the more conservative Washington Post is calling for Bush to wait a few more
weeks, hoping for an international change of heart.

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 Stanley Hilton, Bob Dole's former senior advisor and Paul Wolfowitz
 schoolmate appeared on the Alex Jones Show Tuesday night,
(03/11/03).

 Hilton is representing 400 families suing Bush and others in the
federal
 government for causing, aiding and abetting 9-11.

 He discussed information that he was privy to based on classified
 depositions of 9-11 witnesses.

 Interviews with an American ex-wife of one of the 9-11 hijackers
 revealed that she met Mohammed Atta and his younger brother and that
 this group were double-agents operating in a series of cells that
were
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 She mentioned that these cells were not comprised of muslim
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  Yes, indeed, that is why I am asking for folks' help in getting his works
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  I actually saw a brand new hardbound copy of America's Secret
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  Bill.

There a bazzillion of them on-line at Amazon (or if you don't like that
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Re: [CTRL] Check this out

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  -Caveat Lector- Yeah ok Ray. Self-hatred? And pathological at that huh?

Ray wrote:

  It seems so many who criticize our policies suffer from a pathological
  self-hatred.
  Ray

I write:

Well, self-hatred ... could be our policies are self-hatred and opposition
(or calls for revision) to them is self-love.  VietNam proved this.  The call
from Washington in his farewell address warning against foreign
entanglements is the standard.  People who go to war (or in the case of
the current and past administrations who've sent other peoples' kids off to
war) tend to exhibit something along the lines of a death wish, for
themselves (or for others' kids).  I don't consider this to be too healthy,
physically or mentally (except for the ones who get to watch the
proceedings on the tube so many thousands of miles away in th safety of
their barcaloungers.

Keeping order in the World?  By superimposing one defective culture's
values (and not ideals) upon another vastly different yet imperfect culture?
Bondo and cheap paint can cover the rust and integral decay for only so
long.

But, that's just me.

A:E:R

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not believe simply because it has been handed down for many genera-
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rumoured by many.  Do not believe in anything simply because it is
written in Holy Scriptures.  Do not believe in anything merely on
the authority of teachers, elders or wise men.  Believe only after
careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with
reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all.
Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief,
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[CTRL] Did Pakistan stage bin Laden aide arrest?

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Did Pakistan stage bin Laden aide arrest?
By Simon Denyer

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - A grainy video purporting to show the arrest of two al Qaeda leaders has done little to deflect accusations that Pakistan may have staged this month's raid to give it leeway to abstain in a U.N. vote on an Iraq war.

On Monday, the powerful military Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) held an unprecedented news conference to show foreign journalists what it said were images of a March 1 raid in Rawalpindi that netted al Qaeda kingpin Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

But few of journalists present were convinced the video -- which did not show Mohammed's face nor any sign of a struggle -- was genuine. Many said it looked like a crude reconstruction.

On Tuesday, a former ISI chief said he believed Mohammed was actually arrested some time ago in a different city.

"They are trying to cover up," Lieutenant-General Hamid Gul told Reuters. "I believe he was arrested before, probably in Karachi."

One intelligence source said Mohammed had been arrested three days before, from the Tench Batta suburb of Rawalpindi.

Rumours of Mohammed's arrest had circulated in Pakistan for months, but were consistently denied.

Gul said news of the arrest appeared to have been leaked at a critical time, just as Pakistan was facing huge U.S. pressure to support a U.N. Security Council vote authorising war on Iraq.

On Monday night, a senior ruling party official told Reuters the government, under massive domestic pressure to oppose war on a fellow Muslim state, had decided to abstain in the vote, news that shocked British and American diplomats in Islamabad.

The ISI earlier said it had called its first news conference in Pakistan's history to counter criticism in the Western media that it had not done enough in the war on terror.

Gul said the raid may have been staged -- and news of the arrest leaked -- for the same reason, against the backdrop of the U.N. vote.

Gul, who ran the ISI from 1987 to 1989, said the raid was conducted in far too casual a fashion to have been real, with police failing to properly surround or secure the house in a middle-class Rawalpindi suburb.

RELATIVES, NEIGHBOURS CONTRADICT AUTHORITIES

Relatives of Ahmed Quddus, the son of the house owner, have maintained he was the only man in the house at the time of the raid. Neighbours said they heard no sound of gunfire -- contradicting the official account, which maintains that Mohammed shot one intelligence agent in the foot with an AK-47 rifle.

Within hours, news of the raid and arrest was leaked to foreign news agencies, something Gul also found incredible.

"He has to be questioned, before you present him to the public eye," he said. "You don't present news like that."

In the video, an ISI officer is seen briefing half a dozen agents about the impending raid -- in English, as opposed to Pakistan's Urdu mother tongue.

Officials explained this was a reconstruction of the original Urdu briefing, but said the rest of the video was genuine.

But many journalists were unconvinced as a calm cameraman shone his lights on the raiding party, and followed agents as they casually broke into the compound and the house, and walked up the stairs.

There was no sign of a struggle -- or of any urgency. The cameramen then focused on the back and neck of the man officials said was Mohammed, before the man was swiftly hooded.

The video has not been released to the media for broadcast.

Mohammed is identified by the United States as the mastermind of the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. The ISI says the financier of the attacks, Saudi national Ahmed al-Hawsawi, was also arrested in the same raid.

But one Pakistani source said al-Hawsawi had been picked up at least one month before the announcement of his arrest, and that intelligence agents had voiced delight at the time.

On Tuesday, Quddus was remanded in judicial custody for 14 days, and lawyers said his trial could start this month on charges of possessing weapons, resisting arrest and terrorism.

The intelligence source said Quddus' family was suspected of having sent Mohammed food, and Mohammed was said to have visited the house four or five times.

Quddus is the son of an official in the Jamaat-e-Islami party, a key member of a religious alliance that opposes the military-backed government and has organised big street protests against war on Iraq.

Authorities say at least two other al Qaeda suspects have been arrested in houses linked to Jamaat-e-Islami members, but Gul said the party could be the victim of an official campaign to blacken their name.

"Jamaat has never had any contacts with the Arabs (al Qaeda)," said Gul. "They are at loggerheads with U.S. policy...and at this stage it would be an advantage to have them labelled as terrorists."

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[CTRL] Khalid Capture In Conflict: ISI Shows Faceless Arrest Tape

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Khalid Capture In Conflict: ISI Shows Faceless Arrest Tape
Mar 11, 2003
By Bruce Kennedy, Jihad Unspun

Foreign journalists had to give their head a shake today when they attended a first-ever press briefing by Pakistans Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), a dog-and-pony show to tout what they claim is their independent capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Addressing journalists from CNN, ABC and other major media at the ISI headquarters in the Pakistani capital of Islamabad, in what appears to be an effort to counter growing US criticism of Pakistan's efforts to apprehend terrorists, events immediately got off to a bad start.

Journalists were required to hand over cells phones at the door Monday morning which they gladly obliged but the further request to leave their notepads and pencils outside was another matter. After media members objected saying that these tools of the trade were necessary to ensure their story was told accurately, ISI officials reneged and allowed them to bring in their pens and papers.

In the just over one hour long briefing, a senior ISI official said that the raid that supposedly netted Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, billed by the US as the alleged mastermind of the September 11 terror attacks and the attacks' financier, Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawsawi, was an initiative purely conducted by ISI however later, another senior official said that the CIA provided some electronic intelligence.

Then came the main event and what is poised to be the conflict, albeit maybe short-lived. Eight minutes of footage (in English) was shown of the arrest of Mohammed and al-Hawsawi. Broken doors, blood-stained walls and wrists in handcuffs were all shown but curiously, no face shots of these high profile individuals - not even the well publicized arrest photo of Mohammed that has been widely circulated and questioned. When one CNN reporter, Tom Minter asked why, the ISI said the tape had been edited but that the actual footage did record his face but had been edited out for the presentation.

At the close of the session, journalists asked for their customary dups a copy of the tape for their networks which ISI officials laughed at. When journalists pressed, the tune changed and ISI officials said they would look into it however no tape has yet been released.

If this was the highest profile Al-Qaida arrest for the Pakistani's, why the missing head shots? Further, if this arrest footage does not show the identities of those captured and it has not been released, it begs the question, who is the person in the picture that has been aired morning, noon and night in America that has raised so many questions?

To date, we have not seen a single picture of any of the so-called high profile operatives that have allegedly been arrested. We have never seen Abu Zubaydah, said to be Osama Bin Laden's Operations Chief, allegedly captured March 28, 2002, either during his arrest or in captivity. Contradictory reports at the time countered that Zubaydah died in the raid.

The footage of the alleged arrest of Ramzi Bin al-Shibh did not show his face either nor have we seen his face since alleged capture. If these are such big catches and they are being held at undisclosed locations why not show us their faces instead of FBI most wanted photos? The party line is that this would compromise security. How, if they are in custody? Doesn't the public relations benefit far outweigh the risk?

Now when we see the ISIs footage of Mohammed and al-Hawsawi, we once again can not identify these captives. Press reports a year ago said Mohammed was killed in the Bin al-Shibh raid however contradictory reports from Arab sources reported both were alive and well.

For at least a moment this morning, even mainstream reporters began to question these capture reports that continue to conveniently come at a time when the Bush administration needs public support the most and then they sing like birds, proving the administrations progress in what is supposed to be their primary war a war against Al-Qaida.

It has long been known that the ISI has affiliations with Muslim fundamentalists having supported initiatives throughout the Islamic world for decades, including acting as the paymaster on behalf of many countries, including America, during the ten-year long Afghan-Russian conflict.

President Mushareef must satisfy both the US and the rising anti-American sentiment within his country if he is to continue to hold power. Are these so-called arrests simply for show to satisfy the US? If not, why not show a nervous public, worried that the invasion of Iraq will compromise the war on "terror", current pictures of all three of these individuals, along with footage of their arrests?

Thats was the question among some journalists at least, who openly questioned during their live reports Monday morning why Mohammeds face was omitted from the arrest

Re: [CTRL] America's Secret establishment in mainstream booksto res

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There a bazzillion of them on-line at Amazon (or if you don't like that
source, use one of their colleagueal cources (those that are independent
bookstores affiliated with Amazon) as I did yesterday).

I know Amazon has Sutton's books but I must admit that I was pleasantly surprised to see my Borders carrying it. I am very familiar with their "conspiracy" section - mostly UFO and Atlantis books - and get a little thrill to see worthy and substantive books added. Even though I have a copy I almost feel compelled to buy it so that the PTB at Borders get a clue and perhaps add others of note. Of course when the new Sitchin or Hal Lindsey book comes out my there will be no room on their shelf for books on the real conspiracy.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Pentagon Papers a Cover-up for CIA!!

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Fletcher Prouty told me the inside story of the PENTAGON PAPERS.  
Daniel Ellsberg is the OPPOSITE OF A HERO.  He edited the PENTAGON 
PAPERS to put the blame of the VIETNAM WAR on the DOD instead of on 
the CIA where it should have been.  His LEAK to the NEW YORK TIMES was 
 a scam just like WOODWARD and BERNSTINE.  The mass media makes HEROS 
of these scumbags because the last thing it wants is for the people to 
have REAL LEADERS.

For a true portrayal of Daniel Ellsberg read the definative book on 
VIETNAM by Neil Sheahan A BRIGHT SHINNING LIE.  Ellsberg was CIA 
hanging out with John Vann and David Halberstram.

Ellsberg is just one of many BRIGHT SHINNING LIES.

Brian Downing Quig

 Eerie timing. Excellent movie, especially the real news clips from 
that time. Movie will play again. Times are Eastern Time. Schedule 
info from TVguide.com search. TVguide.com info on movie after Daniel 
Ellsberg review. 2 hour movie. Set your VCR.
 
 Date___Start Time___Title___Channel   
 Sat 15  6:00 PM  The Pentagon Papers.  FX
 Sat 15  10:00 PM The Pentagon Papers.  FX
 Wed 19  8:00 PM  The Pentagon Papers.  FX
 Thu 20  12:00 AM The Pentagon Papers.  FX  
 
 
 
 Mar 11 2003 Daniel Ellsberg article begins--
 http://www.antiwar.com/orig/ellsberg1.html
 My Thoughts on 'The Pentagon Papers' Movie
 by Daniel Ellsberg
 Ellsberg.net
 March 11, 2003
  window.onerror=function(){clickURL=document.location.href;return 
true;} if(!self.clickURL) clickURL=parent.location.href;  
 
 
 
 Tonight (Sunday March 9th), the made-for-TV movie The Pentagon 
Papers, starring James Spader as Daniel Ellsberg and Claire Forlani 
as Patricia Ellsberg, premieres on the FX cable TV station, 8 PM 
Eastern/Pacific. The movie is not based on Secrets: A Memoir of 
Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers, (the script was written before 
Secrets came out), and oddly, FX never contacted Dan about the film 
or consulted him in any way. (The only contact, an impersonal one, was 
to send Ellsberg.Net  along with hundreds of other websites  a mass 
email after the film was made, asking that we place their banner ad on 
the site, in exchange for a link from theirs, which we did). Someone 
with access to the film, who thought Dan should be able to see the 
film that portrays him before it airs, leaked Dan an advance copy of 
the film (FX never gave it to him and was dismayed he had seen it 
before tonight). One would think, with so little interest in 
contacting Dan or using him as a source for the movie, that the film 
would be negative. Surprisingly, it is a respectful (though 
unnecessarily fictionalized) and sympathetic portrayal, with a timely 
and important underlying message. Here are some of Dan's thoughts on 
the film:
 
 Every bit of dialogue is completely fictional (with the exception 
of a dozen lines or so, mainly in my interview with Cronkite), nothing 
happened very closely to the way it is portrayed, and there are errors 
in almost every minute of the film. In fact, the script often has me 
saying things that I not only didn't say, but I never would have said; 
in many cases they are the opposite of what I believed. The same is 
true for most of the dialogue associated with other named characters; 
they obviously weren't consulted any more than I was. You could say 
that everything is wrong, in some degree: and yet, the overall story 
is true to the underlying feeling of the events.
 
 They have made a good movie, with an important message  in favor 
of whistleblowing  that I would endorse; and the timeliness of the 
message, undoubtedly by accident, is uncanny. The inaccuracies of the 
script are somewhat frustrating to me but they won't be

[CTRL] Fwd: Kinsey Outed As Closet Nazi

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Monday, January 20, 2003
MEDIA MATTERS
Hollywood mag spikes 'pedophile warning'
Variety backs down on ad exposing 'father of the sexual
revolution'
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By Art Moore
WorldNetDaily.com

The leading entertainment industry magazine Variety has backed down on its agreement
to publish a paid ad that warns makers of an upcoming film on sexual revolutionary
Alfred Kinsey that they are on the verge of glorifying a notorious promoter of
pedophilia.

Variety publisher Craig Hitchcock rejected two versions
of an ad negotiated by Kinsey critic Judith Reisman, calling it
inappropriate for the entertainment publication.
Reisman believes Variety spiked the ad because it would embarrass the Hollywood elite, who
hypocritically scream 'censorship' when we protest their sex and sadism
fare.
It's an amazing disrespect for their own constituents' right to
know, Reisman told WND. They call themselves the 'bible of the
entertainment industry,' and yet they refuse an advertisement that they have
admitted is clearly legal and merely provides the facts.
Hitchcock did not respond to messages left by WorldNetDaily with his secretary.

An agreement with Variety had been reached to publish a two-color ad on the
inside back cover of the magazine's yearbook, which goes to the industry's
power brokers, Reisman said. When a deadline for that edition passed, an ad in
Variety's lucrative Academy Award edition was considered. But after working on
the ad for a week, Hitchcock called Thursday to inform Reisman that it would
not run.
Hitchcock admitted his lawyers had left the decision to his
discretion because there was nothing illegal in the ad, Reisman
said, noting that the publisher told her she had sourced all the
charges.
In her reply to Hitchcock, who sent his apologies, Reisman said
that Variety's decision amounted to censorship.
So, she wrote to her supporters, Variety will hide the truth
about the pedophile basis of Kinseys [books] from its constituency in
order to protect those producing the Kinsey propaganda film.

Warning to Neeson
The ad was prompted by Reisman's attempt to warn makers of the Kinsey film that
they were about to produce a whitewashed picture of the man she calls the
most infamous pedophile propagandist in scientific history. Kinsey
died in 1956.
The United Artists and Myriad Pictures film, to begin production this spring,
will be produced by Francis Ford Coppola and directed by Oscar-winner Bill
Condon, known for his hit Gods and Monsters.
Reisman has charged that Kinsey's socially explosive 1948 book, Sexual
Behavior in the Human Male, contained a record of human experiments
conducted by pedophiles on hundreds, perhaps thousands, of children. The Kinsey
study, widely seen as the book that launched the sexual revolution,
has been used to support the contention that sexual activity in children is
natural and healthy and should not be repressed.
Reisman wrote two letters to the actor who will portray Kinsey, Liam Neeson,
but received no response. The ad, which was to cost $7,740, aimed to
sensitize and inform the media world of the truthful atrocities of
'Kinsey's pedophiles.'
The biggest financial contributor to the ad was radio psychologist Dr. Laura Schlessinger.
She is outraged by their refusal to run it, said Keven Bellows,
Schlessinger's chief of staff, who added that the radio host plans to initiate
a call to action this week in which she will urge her listeners to
contact Variety and people associated with the Kinsey film.
Other backers were Phyllis Schafly's lobby group Eagle Forum, the Reed Family
Trust, Mothers of Lost Children, RSVPAmerica, Mothers Against Sexual

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To misquote Goebbels- we dont want higher oil
prices, we dont want lower oil prices we want dollar denominated oil
prices









http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html





summary 

Although completely suppressed by the U.S. media and
government, the answer to the Iraq enigma is simple
yet shocking -- it is an oil currency war. The real reason for this upcoming
war is this administration's goal of preventing further Organization of the
Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) momentum towards the euro as an oil
transaction currency standard. However, in order to pre-empt OPEC, they need to
gain geo-strategic control of Iraq along with its 2nd
largest proven oil reserves. This essay will discuss the macroeconomics of the
`petro-dollar' and the unpublicized but real threat to U.S. economic
hegemony from the euro as an alternative oil transaction currency. The author
advocates reform of the global monetary system including a dollar/euro currency
'trading band' with reserve status parity, and a dual OPEC oil transaction
standard. These reforms could potentially reduce future oil currency warfare












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free, it expects what never was and never will be . . . The People cannot be
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On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 09:31 AM, William Shannon wrote:

Yeah ok Ray. Self-hatred? And pathological at that huh?

If you are so deluded as to believe that Iraq is a threat to ANYONE - much less America - I can't help you. Keep getting your news from the neo-cons on FoxNews and talk radio...Goebbels would be proud of these shills. Don't dig any deeper than you have to to see for yourself what's REALLY happening. If it isn't in the Washington Times or the Weekly Standard it must be wrong.

I see that your primary allegiance seems to be to Israel and therein lies our differences. I cannot change your lack of enthusiasm for what WAS the American way. Maybe Tel Aviv calls??

See Ray, I am offended as an American in out meddling in the affairs of other SOVEREIGN nations...it's none of our business what Iraq or Gambia or Uraguay do internally just as what we do is not their business. You seem to be very cavalier with national sovereignty and I could see such an attitude backfiring on us. One day China or Russia may feel the need for regime change here...and people like you set precedent.

Are you also going to apologize for the next round of Napoleon Bush's empire building in Syria and Iran? When does it end Ray? And how did the so-called war on terror morph into making the Middle East safe for Israel?

Are you a man Ray or are you a sheep?

Bill.

Bill:

I can certainly agree to disagree over the status of Iraq as a threat, or the necessity to neutralize that threat by military force.
I am certainly an ardent Constitutionalist, and one who adamantly refutes the position that the Constitution is a living document which should assume the shape of the latest moral or political trend.

But you miss my point, or I haven't enunciated it clearly enough.

My biggest question is how do you construe anything America has done in the past, or intends to do in the near future, as
empire building?

We have always striven to liberate countries, give the people a voice, and then let them deal with their internal affairs; not dominate or subjugate others.

Our only interest in the internal affairs of other nations has been, and continues to be, when those affairs pose a threat to us. In this case, vis a vis the funding and training of radical Islamist terrorists.

Once again, where is this empire we've built?

Ray

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In a message dated 3/13/03 8:16:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yes, I was told by many that I wouldn't be able to get ASE into Borders or BN, but times and "greed" win. Michael Moore's books are an example of the stores having to carry something that some would rather they didn't. America's Secret Establishment (ASE) has been in print since 1986 and this is the first time for any of Sutton's 20+ books to get into these stores.

Wes, was it in their new release section upfront or stashed back in the stacks?

Please, folks ifin ya can pick-up a copy at your local Borders or BN, I am receiving no press at all. We have sent out press releases and such. The mainstream wouldn't even run an obit on Tony. With Antony passed on, radio stations are not willing to interview the publisher they say want the author. Alex Jones will not answer my emails or request for air-time and he asked Tony, when he was alive. Tony said no and suggested that Alex interview me, no response from Alex. Neither will Rense or George N/Art Bell. They have had Robbin's on but they won't even answer emails from myself and others. Rense has articles written by me without attribution, one even edited to take out references to myself, but refuses to answer emails or inquiries into apperances. It is mighty convenient for some that Tony is gone, three weeks after the book was printed and then Robbin's whitewash came along.

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 My biggest question is how do you construe anything America has done
in the past, or intends to do in the near future, as empire building?

 We have always striven to liberate countries, give the people a voice,
and then let them deal with their internal affairs; not dominate or
subjugate others.

In case you missed the last the history of the last fifty years, the U.S. has
been the most successful occupation force in the memory of the World
(the Soviets collapsed a while back, in effect, giving up their claim to any
prizes).  The pretext was liberation and protection.  With the advent of
ICBMs, the only reason for maintaining a ground force in Europe was to
preposition forces for subsequent occupation should the Cold War have
heated up.

Now, if you have any qualms about this analysis, think about what the
realtions with the French have  been since DeGaulle.  Recall that he was
the de facto leader of the French in Engaland during the Second Great
War.  Recall he led the Free French back into France.  Recall he later
became the national leader who then escorted to the Americans to the
nearet borders.  He understood (all-too-well from his experiences with the
Germans) the difference between liberation (which was his intention)
and occupation which was what happened.  France has not been really
popular with the Americans' policy makers ever since.  DeGaulle liberated
his country and people got PO'd.  Germany's next, followed by Turkey.
Note how the Americans have allowed them to voice their opinion and
conduct their internal affairs.
And let's not discuss Afghanistan in this context.  The only thing that was
liberated there was the opium crop.
Liberation does NOT result in the House of Representatives taking some
jingoistic tack of renaming a basically American food.  This act was
supposed to be a symbol' but, if anything, they did the French a favour:
no self-respecting French person would eat such gastronomically inferior
substandard gut stuffers as a french fry.  This was part of the issue that
Jose Bove's move against McDonalds' in France.

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=9472
THE GLOBAL CITIZEN: The World Is Not for Sale
By Donella H. Meadows, AlterNet
July 18, 2000

Jose Bove milks 250 sheep in the Larzac region of France, a rocky,
windswept place where you would think no farmer could produce
anything. But Bove turns sheep milk into one of the gastronomical
treasures of the world, Roquefort cheese. Bove is a leader of the local
Roquefort producers association and of the second largest farmers'
organization in France. So he was well known locally before he and nine
friends drove their tractors to the nearby town of Millau last year and
pulled down an under-construction McDonalds restaurant. Now he is well
known globally.

Bove's beef with McDonalds began with America's beef industry,
particularly its habit of dosing feedlot cattle with the kinds of hormones
that athletes are tempted to use for the same reason  to bulk up fast.
Europeans are disinclined to eat this high-test meat. The European Union
forbids hormone-raised beef, either domestically produced or imported.
That makes the American beef industry, and the government officials to
whom the beef industry pays large campaign donations, very angry.

Now that we have a World Trade Organization, we have an official way to
resolve such conflicts. WTO resolutions nearly always come out in favor of
trade, no matter what its social or environmental or cultural or health
consequences. It was no surprise when the WTO declared the EU ban on
hormone-raised beef illegal.

The EU refused to lift the ban. So the WTO imposed the only punishment
within its power. It allowed the U.S. to slap retaliatory tarriffs  high taxes
imposed at the border  on French products. One of the products thus
affected was Roquefort cheese. Which made Jose Bove and his Roquefort-
producing friends very angry.

At their hearing on June 30 at least 50,000 people jammed into Millau for a
political demonstration equivalent in purpose to Seattle's anti-WTO bash six
months earlier. In the crowd's estimation, if not the court's, Bove is a
hero. The T-shirt seen all over the streets said on the front, in a direct
quote from Bove, Le Monde n'est pas une marchandise. (The world is not
merchandise, not a product, not for sale.) On the back it said, Moi non
plus. (Me neither.)

Bove's supporters are by no means only French. The American media tend
to frame stories like this as a confrontation between French and U.S.
farmers. But American farmers actually donated to help with Bove's legal
expenses. One farmer responded: A few of us were standing around our
co-op this morning wishing we had some way to help those French guys,
and now we have your email we're glad to send some money so we can
have some small part in this.

The Millau Ten were found guilty  they readily admitted that they pulled
down the

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I thought Halliburton already had the contract. Maybe the DOD is just
lining up subcontractors for them. - JR

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2003-03-13 Thread Nessie SFBG

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where is this empire we've built?


America doesn't just HAVE an empire. America IS an empire.

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In a message dated 3/13/2003 11:02:55 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Wes, was it in their new release section upfront or stashed back in the stacks?

Kris, it was prominently displayed facing out on a head-level shelf. 
It was in the section where all "conspiracy" books are. Not at all hidden!

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On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 11:02 AM, Euphorian wrote:

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3/13/2003 10:36:46 AM, Ray Boeche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My biggest question is how do you construe anything America has done
in the past, or intends to do in the near future, as empire building?
 We have always striven to liberate countries, give the people a
voice,
and then let them deal with their internal affairs; not dominate or
subjugate others.
In case you missed the last the history of the last fifty years, the
U.S. has
been the most successful occupation force in the memory of the World
(the Soviets collapsed a while back, in effect, giving up their claim
to any
prizes).  The pretext was liberation and protection.  With the advent
of
ICBMs, the only reason for maintaining a ground force in Europe was to
preposition forces for subsequent occupation should the Cold War have
heated up.
Now, if you have any qualms about this analysis, think about what the
realtions with the French have  been since DeGaulle.  Recall that he
was
the de facto leader of the French in Engaland during the Second Great
War.  Recall he led the Free French back into France.  Recall he later
became the national leader who then escorted to the Americans to the
nearet borders.  He understood (all-too-well from his experiences with
the
Germans) the difference between liberation (which was his intention)
and occupation which was what happened.  France has not been really
popular with the Americans' policy makers ever since.  DeGaulle
liberated
his country and people got PO'd.  Germany's next, followed by Turkey.
Note how the Americans have allowed them to voice their opinion and
conduct their internal affairs.
And let's not discuss Afghanistan in this context.  The only thing
that was
liberated there was the opium crop.
Liberation does NOT result in the House of Representatives taking
some
jingoistic tack of renaming a basically American food.  This act was
supposed to be a symbol' but, if anything, they did the French a
favour:
no self-respecting French person would eat such gastronomically
inferior
substandard gut stuffers as a french fry.


My question remains  - How do you construe anything America has done
in the past, or intends to do in the near future, as empire building?
Let's put aside the fact that DeGaulle and the Free French marched back
into France under covering fire of American troops. The French have
been screwed up since the so-called Enlightenment.
The only reason Germany exists as a democracy (albeit a socialist
democracy) is because the US presence in West Berlin and West Germany
kept the Soviet Union from expanding their very real empire.
Once again, where is this empire we've built? Name the countries we
control.
Ray

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Kris, it was prominently displayed facing out on a head-level shelf.
It was in the section where all "conspiracy" books are. Not at all hidden!


Well, that is good, thanks for the report. If any others can tell me if they see it out there in the "real" world that would be great. 

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where is this empire we've built?


America doesn't just HAVE an empire. America IS an empire.


Once again, let's see the list of countries existing under the tyranny
of American rule.
Simply because we're free, and economically successful and provide more
aid to the less-fortunate countries of the world than any other nation,
does not equate with any rational concept of imperial domination.
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Who are you Ray?
Are you new to this list? I don't recall seeing you here?
Did Hannity or Rush send you to try to colonize us? 

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Once again, let's see the list of countries existing under the tyranny
of American rule.

Simply because we're free, and economically successful and provide more
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Once again, where is this empire we've built? Name the countries we
control.

Ray



Well, let us see, politically there are Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa to start. Economical dominion increase the empire dramatically.  

The empire is a false illusion for the US and is ultimately manipulated by the secret societies through corporate institutions leading to a "new world order" of synarchical design.

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Re: [CTRL] America's Secret establishment in mainstream booksto res

2003-03-13 Thread Eric R Brodeur

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  Kris, it was prominently displayed facing out on a head-level shelf.
  It was in the section where all conspiracy books are. Not at all hidden!
 

 Well, that is good, thanks for the report. If any others can tell me if they
 see it out there in the real world that would be great.


i just got a copy from amazon.com (it took several weeks, special
order).  i don't know if that counts as the real world.

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[CTRL] Ellsberg on Whistleblower

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http://www.accuracy.org/press_releases/PR031003.htm


March 10, 2003
Ellsberg on Whistleblower Arrest in
U.S. Spying on U.N. Scandal

A 28-year-old woman working at the British Government Communications
Headquarters has been arrested on suspicion of contravening the Official
Secrets Act.

The arrest came shortly after the Observer newspaper in London revealed
a top-secret memo from the U.S. National Security Agency outlining plans
for spying on U.N. delegates, part of U.S. efforts to gain approval for a new
Security Council resolution on Iraq.

The Observer reported yesterday that a top-secret memo from the
National Security Agency, which monitors communications around the
world, was passed to this newspaper by British security sources who
objected to being asked to aid the American operation. The leak marks a
serious breach between the Blair government and elements of the
intelligence community opposed to using British security resources to help
the U.S. drive towards war.

The NSA memo stated that the Agency is mounting a surge particularly
directed at the UN Security Council members for dependencies and the
whole gamut of information that could give U.S. policymakers an edge in
obtaining results favorable to U.S. goals... The Observer reports that the
U.N. has begun a top- level inquiry into the NSA document.

Daniel Ellsberg, who authored the new book Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam
and the Pentagon Papers, said today: This leak is potentially more
significant than the release of the Pentagon Papers, since it is
extraordinarily timely. More officials who know -- as I did in 1964-65 -- that
the president, and their bosses, are lying us into a wrongful, reckless,
unnecessary war should consider doing right now, before the bombs are
falling, what I wish I had done at a comparable point, in the months before
the onset of the Rolling Thunder bombing [in Vietnam]: going to Congress
and the press with documents that undercut official lies. There is still time
to avert this invasion with sufficiently comprehensive truth-telling.

[Media Advisory: Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers in 1971, will
speak at a news conference about the recently leaked NSA memo and
related issues, in Washington, D.C., at the National Press Building in the
Murrow Room at noon on Tuesday, March 11.]

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ED VULLIAMY, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MARTIN BRIGHT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The latest story from the Observer is at: www.observer.co.uk/
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3/13/2003 11:17:54 AM, Ray Boeche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The only reason Germany exists as a democracy (albeit a socialist
democracy) is because the US presence in West Berlin and West Germany
kept the Soviet Union from expanding their very real empire.

Once again, where is this empire we've built? Name the countries we
control.

Apparently you missed the occupation point.  Engaland, Germany, Turkey,
Saudi Arabia (weapons systems if nothing else), Kuwait (armed forces),
Afghanistan, SoKorea, Japan, Israel, to start your list.  This is not always so
much overt as it is subtle.  Part of Germany's economic problem is due to
the collapse of the Soviet Union at which time the Americans reduced
their presence in Europe.  When their economy was running high and
improving, there were American bases all over the place putting who know
how many billions of dollars (by infrastructure building and maintenance
and materiel AND by the money the GIs spent in country (figure about
$10,000 per head per year))(as a very conservative estimate of pocket
change expended, not counting utilities, quarters, COLA, fuel subsidies for
private automobiles and the like).  Once the presence was reduced and, in
many cases removed, count how many billion$$$ were not longer available
to help subsidise the reincorporation of the East much less maintain the
West.

The money aspect is very deep and any country that forgoes the American
capital expenditure is like a caffeine addict going cold turkey.  Headaches,
depression, cravings, and the like.  On the one hand, there is the force
application and, on the other, there is the money poured into their
countries.  And don't forget if democratising nations was a goal, the
politicians would have followed Patton's advice and gone after the
Bolsheviks and eliminated the Cold War and the need to be an occupying
force.  But it's easier to split things two ways rather than a hundred ways.
More reliable too.

Germany might have been a democracy had the Americans stayed out of
the First Great War.  This war -- along with the Spanish-American War
undertaken by McKinley -- was the beginning of the empire building.
Note, the latter accomplished acquisition of the Philippines, Puerto Rico,
and effected changes in Cuba that led to Castro.  For an interesting read
an treatment of the subject, go getcha a Walter Karp, *The Politics of
War*.  For a book written in around 1979, it's a timely piece for today.

And who cares what the French were doing since when?  France was
liberated.  It was on the way to Germany.  Unless one is a Wilsonian (and
Karp talks a lot about him) and there is a need to impose an pseudo-
American way of life on everyone whether it suits them or not.  There is a
lot of popular resentment by many of the occupied nations to the
presence of the American democratisers.  One size don't fit all.  The
French (and the Germans and the Engalish and the Russians and the these
and the those) may have been screwing up (by your standard) for who
knows how long.  The idea behind the making of the U.S. was to be
divorce from these countries (however the French shore did come in
handy at one point) and leave their BS behind (see Washington as well as
the Declaration of Independence again).

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2003-03-13 Thread Nessie SFBG

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 we're free, and economically successful


Some of us are free, others are not. America has the highest per
capita prison population on earth, most of them non violent drug
offenders. Scores of millions of us live below the poverty line.
Scores of millions of us have no medical coverage whatsoever.
the list of countries existing under the tyranny of American rule.
America itself exists under tyrannical rule. We no longer have a
working constitution, and haven't had a Bill of Rights since the 1988
Omnibus Anti-Crime Act. Under the PATRIOT Act, federal law
enforcement has powers of surveillance and detention that would make
Himmler proud. Our troops violate the sovereignty of other nations at
will.
Democracy? Don't make me laugh. America is a plutocracy, nothing
more, nothing less. It's not even a republic. It's an empire, or as
we the enlightened call it, an ongoing criminal enterprise.
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[CTRL] California's role in Nazis' goal

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State's little-known history of shameful science
California's role in Nazis' goal of 'purification'
Tom Abate
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On Tuesday, a state Senate committee is scheduled to hear a historical
truth that might shock most Californians: Almost 100 years ago, their state
practiced a form of eugenics that helped inspire Hitler's Nazis.

California was the second state to pass eugenics laws in 1909, two years
after Indiana made it legal to sterilize the feeble-minded, according to
University of Virginia bioethicist Paul Lombardo.

Lombardo is an expert on eugenics, a school of thought popular around
the turn of the 20th century. Eugenicists thought they could improve the
human species through selective breeding, which meant preventing
habitual criminals, inmates of insane asylums and sexual deviants from
having kids.

When Lombardo briefs the Senate Select Committee on Genetics,
committee chairwoman Sen. Dede Alpert, D-Coronado (San Diego County),
expects his talk will raise eyebrows.

I'll be the first to admit I had no idea this went on in California, said
Alpert, adding that when Lombardo's state of Virginia confronted its
history of eugenics, it prompted the state's governor to offer a public
apology.

That may be the appropriate response here, but that's something that
would come after we get the chance to hear it, Alpert said.

Lombardo sketched out his two-hour presentation, Eugenics: Lessons
From a History Hidden in Plain Sight.

As he explained it, it was around the turn of the last century when
scientific thinkers, notably Sir Francis Galton, cousin of evolutionist
Charles Darwin, began arguing that allowing the unfit to have children
might weaken the human herd and should be controlled by law.

After Indiana passed a pioneering statute allowing state officials to sterilize
those deemed unfit to breed, California enacted an even stricter eugenics
law. California made it legal for state officials to asexualize those
considered feeble-minded, prisoners exhibiting sexual or moral
perversions, and anyone with more than three criminal convictions.

As Lombardo explained, by using the term asexualization instead of
sterilization, California's law went beyond ordering vasectomies in men or
tubal ligations in women. California made it legal to castrate a man or
remove the ovaries from a woman, permanently preventing reproduction.

Lombardo said California's asexualization statute passed unanimously in the
state Assembly, drew only one dissenting vote in the state Senate and was
signed into law by Gov. James M. Gillett in 1909.

It was amended at least twice, in 1913 and 1917, to shift the focus of
California's eugenics program away from the castration of prisoners and
toward the sterilization of insane asylum inmates.

If you look at the numbers of people from 1909 through 1950 sterilized in
California, it's something on the order of 19,000, evenly split between men
and women, Lombardo said. My guess would be most of those were not
castration but were vasectomies or tubal ligations, which are a lot
cheaper, faster and safer.

By the time state law was revised in 1951 to greatly narrow the state's
authority to forcibly prevent procreation, eugenic sterilization had already
fallen into disfavor, thanks to public revulsion at the revelations of Nazi
atrocities before and during World War II, Lombardo said.

But in the years after the state embraced eugenics, California intellectuals
-- including Stanford's David Starr Jordan and Louis Terman, popularizer of
the IQ test -- were leading advocates of the movement, he said.

California was such a prominent practitioner of forced sterilization that it
was held up as a model by the Eugenics Record Office, the Long Island
think tank that was the movement's unofficial headquarters. The Eugenics
Record Office, in turn, had links to the Nazi party during the 1930s.

There's lots of connections between the Germans interested in
sterilization and the Americans, Lombardo said, adding that after Hitler
took power in 1933, the very first law passed by the Reichstag was the law
for the sterilization of the hereditarily diseased.

Lombardo cites an incident in which California's sterilization practices
were held up as models for the Nazi regime. In 1935, Eugenics Record
Office leader Harry Laughlin was invited to an international conference on
eugenics in Germany. Unable to attend, Laughlin instead sent his German
hosts a diagram displaying the pedigree of a feeble-minded woman
sterilized by the state of California.

The chart shows how the woman was born to a mother deemed by state
officials to be neurotic (and) feeble-minded and a father termed a
drunkard (and) gambler (with) low mentality. The woman's ovaries were
removed, a permissible form of

[CTRL] Blair puzzle

2003-03-13 Thread Tony Dickinson

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I guess that he prefers to be protected by weapons of mass distraction ?

T.


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On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 11:26 AM, William Shannon wrote:

Who are you Ray?
Are you new to this list? I don't recall seeing you here?
Did Hannity or Rush send you to try to colonize us?

Bill.




Bill:

Yes, I just signed on to the list. No, I haven't been sent in an effort to colonize you by imperialist masters. : -)

As to who I am, my background is broad.

I've done research into the paranormal (UFOs, cryptozoology, psychic phenomena, and yes, conspiracies) for a number of years, along with a lot of writing and public speaking on those topics.

I am a priest with the Reformed Episcopal Church, serving a parish in Lincoln Nebraska. My seminary training is principally in systematic theology, philosophy and apologetics.

I make my living as an artist. I design book interiors and jackets for the University of Nebraska Press, one of the leading university presses in the United States.

My interests are pretty limitless, running from politics to alternative medicine to military history to archaeology, and on and on.

But that still doesn't answer my objection to this erroneous characterization of America as an imperialist power.

So, I'll try once more:

Once again, let's see the list of countries existing under the tyranny
of American rule.

Simply because we're free, and economically successful and provide more aid to the less-fortunate countries of the world than any other nation, does not equate with any rational concept of imperial domination.



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[CTRL] Congressional Taliban At It Again

2003-03-13 Thread flw

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CONGRESS WANTS TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS
SEVEN THINGS TO DO ABOUT IT

 Your right to dance, sing, DJ, listen to good music, and run your own
 business is under attack. The federal government may soon have the
 power to shut down dance clubs, rock, country, and Hip Hop concerts,
 gay and lesbian bars, and anything else federal officials don't like.

 As you may know, Congress is considering three bills that could land
 many event promoters, bar and nightclub owners, and stadium owners in
 jail if even one person uses drugs at their events.  If enacted,
 these
 bills could prevent you from hearing your favorite band or DJ live.
 Every musical style would be affected.

 The three dangerous bills are the RAVE Act (H.R. 718), the CLEAN-UP
 Act (H.R. 834), and the Illicit Drugs Anti-Proliferation Act (S.
 226). While aimed at the very real problem of substance abuse, the
 bills go too far by punishing business owners for the drug offenses
 of their customers and threatening to shut down concerts, circuit
 parties, dance clubs, and other forms of entertainment. Business
 owners could be jailed for enacting health measures that save lives -
 such as teaching their staff first-aid. You could even go to jail for
 20 years for throwing a party in your own home.

 Drug Policy Alliance worked with dozens of organizations to stop
 these bills last year. Tens of thousands of voters urged their
 Members of Congress to oppose the bills. Two of the original co -
 sponsors withdrew their support and House and Senate leadership never
 dared to bring the bills up for a vote. Supporters of these draconian
 bills, however, are determined to pass them this year. They will
 become law unless you help.

 Drug Policy Alliance staff are heading down to Miami next week for
 the 2003 Winter Music Conference to work with business owners,
 artists, and fans to develop a comprehensive plan for stopping these
 bills and protecting music and dancing. Even as you read this e-mail,
 however, politicians in Washington, DC are plotting to quickly make
 these laws and give the government broad new power over your life.
 They will succeed, unless you ACT NOW.

 SEVEN THINGS TO DO

 ***ACTION ONE: SUPPORT US

 Contribute to the national campaign to stop these bills. Without your
 help, these bills could become law by the end of the year. Drug
 Policy Alliance Network needs to raise at least $180,000 in emergency
 funding to stop Congress and protect music and dancing.  In
 particular, we need to hire a high-profile Washington lobbying firm
 that can voice the concerns of promoters, DJs, and nightclub owners
 directly to Members of Congress and pressure them to oppose these
 bills. We also need vital funding for grassroots and public education
 efforts.

 Without emergency funding from people like you, we will not be able
 to squash these draconian bills and protect music, dancing, and all
 your rights.

 Contribute on-line at
 http://www.nomoredrugwar.org/donate
 Any size gift will make a difference.

 ***ACTION TWO:  CONTACT YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS

 Contact your Members of Congress. Tell your Representative to oppose
 the RAVE Act  (H.R. 718) in its entirety and to oppose Section 305 in
 the CLEAN-UP Act (H.R. 834). Tell your Senators to oppose the Illicit
 Drugs Anti-Proliferation Act (S. 226).

 Fax your Representative for free by going to:
 http://actioncenter.drugpolicy.org/action/index.asp?step=2item=1516

 Fax your Senators for free by going to:
 http://actioncenter.drugpolicy.org/action/index.asp?step=2item=1448

 Organize a group of voters in your area to meet with your elected
 officials directly. Information on organizing a meeting with your
 Members of Congress can be found at
 http://www.nomoredrugwar.org/music/capbasics.htm

 ***ACTION THREE: HOST AN EVENT

 Hold an event in which part of the proceeds goes to the cause.
 (E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested). For instance, Buzzlife
 Productions and Maze Nightclub are having an event in Miami in which
 the ticket sales go to our fight in Congress. Tickets for this
 benefit can be purchased at:
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 AffilID=93EventsID=4750PGname=Buzzlife%2BProductions

 You do not have to attend the event to buy a ticket, and all proceeds
 go to Drug Policy Alliance and the Electronic Music Defense Fund
 (EM:DEF) for our fight against the RAVE Act.

 ***ACTION FOUR: PUT A BANNER AD ON YOUR WEB SITE

 Tell people about the fax campaign. Link to our banner ad. Here is a
 link to the code you can cut and paste on our website:
 http://www.nomoredrugwar.org/music/link_rave.htm

 ***ACTION FIVE: EDUCATE THE PUBLIC

 Raise public awareness by distributing flyers at events, sending
 action alerts to e-mail lists, using drug policy activists soundbites
 in your music and more.  Find out more at:
 http://www.nomoredrugwar.org/music/whattodo.htm

 ***ACTION SIX: SUBMIT A LETTER TO YOUR LOCAL NEWSPAPER

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Re: [CTRL] Check this out on FrontPageMag.com!

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In a message dated 3/13/2003 2:25:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

But that still doesn't answer my objection to this erroneous
characterization of America as an imperialist power.

Napoleon Bush is adding to the empire with a start in Iraq and then on to Syria, Iran, Libya and any other nation that is hostile to Israel. As you've no doubt noticed our economy is dying too and history is going to repeat itself if this empire-building is not stopped. But keep fiddling...

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Since David Ickies is under persecution by Richard Truth is No Defense
Warman,
David Ickies website has been elevated to my list of Least Likely to Be
Compromised sources, which is a very short list.
Warman gets sicced on folks who make the Big Guys nervous.
Whereever Ickies says shapeshifting lizards I mentally replace it with
demonically posessed and everything reads just fine.

I am starting to think the word Royal itself refers to the Templar
Crown of Sion, and not any particular nationality.

It is the Templar Crown who's overarching obsession has been Israel and
the restoration of the Second Temple, and the Templar Crown with
Soverignty above British Law right in the heart of London. It is the
Templar Crown for which the IRS collects taxes, the reason for the
accursed Gold Fringe on judicical flags, and the true owner and
controller of Israel.

Sion, aka Zion, represents the remnant of an ancient religion that
practiced human sacrifice as necromancy and considered incest and
pedophilia normal. Evidence of practice of this religion is visable
whereever you find catacombs. These were their ritual chambers. One of
their signs was the fish, but this is connected not to early christians,
but as a mark of their ancient fish god who reappears as Neptune.


FASCINATING CONNECTIONS BETWEEN
HITLER'S NAZIS AND
THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY

By James Bartley

David,

Congratulations on your new book! A local bookstore which specializes in
non-conformist literature has already sold out Children of the Matrix.
They had to put in another order because the demand is so great.

I just wanted to give my two cents worth as far as the Duke of Windsor's
connection to the Third Reich is concerned. It is a truly tangled web
but in a nutshell here is what happened.

Edward was originally the Prince of Wales and was the heir apparent to
the British Throne.

I can't remember Edward's EXACT quote but the following is an
approximation thats very close to the original; Every drop of blood
that courses through my veins is German!

Prince Edward made no secret of his pro-nazi sympathies and this as you
know, was quite an embarrassment to first the Chamberlain Goverment and
then the Churchill Government.

Prince Edward wanted to marry the american Wallis Simpson but was
refused permission by the Royal Family so he decided to abdicate and
changed his title to the Duke of Windsor and despite the opposition of
the Royal Family, bestowed the title of The Duchess of Windsor to his
erstwhile bride, the former Miss Simpson..

MI5 had already intercepted correspondence between the Duke of Windsor
and his germanic cousins, the Prince of Hesse and the Prince of Coburg
Saxe-Gotha which was prima facie evidence of his intended betrayal of
Great Britain.

The Duchess of Windsor meanwhile was in contact with Hitler's foreign
minister Ribbentrop, a fact that was likewise known by MI5.

Hitler made no secret of his admiration for British (as exposed to
merely English) Institutions and the British Royal Family and Empire.
After all, prior to World War I, the Queen of England routinely referred
to Kaiser Wilhelm as Cousin Willie in their correspondence.

Sir Stewart Menzies, the legendary C or Chief of SIS aka MI6 reminded
his old classmates who were in the German military or aristocracy to
adhere to a certain code of conduct because they were after all, OLD
ETONIANS like Menzies. The Old Boy Network in action again.

So the links with the Third Reich were well established never mind the
interlocking industrial cartels and financial houses.

To complicate matters, The Duke of Windsor was commissioned as a General
in the British Army so not only was his correspondence to his germanic
cousins Treasonous from the

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Cleaning the 
PoolThe White House Press Corps politely grabs its 
ankles.


After watching George W. Bushs press conference last Thursday 
night, Im more convinced than ever: The entire White House press corps should 
be herded into a cargo plane, flown to an altitude of 30,000 feet, and pushed 
out, kicking and screaming, over the North Atlantic.
Any remaining staff at the Washington bureaus should be rounded up for 
summary justice. The Russians used to use bakery trucks, big gray panel trucks 
marked "Bread" on the sides; victims would be rounded up in the middle of the 
night and taken for one last ride through the darkened streets.
The war would almost be worth it just to see Wolf Blitzer pounding away 
at the inside of a Pepperidge Farm truck, tearfully confessing and vowing to 
"take it all back."
The Bush press conference to me was like a mini-Alamo for American 
journalism, a final announcement that the press no longer performs anything akin 
to a real function. Particularly revolting was the spectacle of the cream of the 
national press corps submitting politely to the indignity of obviously 
pre-approved questions, with Bush not even bothering to conceal that the affair 
was scripted.
Abandoning the time-honored pretense of spontaneity, Bush chose the order 
of questioners not by scanning the room and picking out raised hands, but by 
looking down and reading from a predetermined list. Reporters, nonetheless, 
raised their hands in between questionsas though hoping to suddenly catch the 
presidents attention.
In other words, not only were reporters going out of their way to make 
sure their softballs were pre-approved, but they even went so far as to 
act on Bushs behalf, raising their hands and jockeying in their seats in 
order to better give the appearance of a spontaneous news conference.
Even Bush couldnt ignore the absurdity of it all. In a remarkable 
exchange that somehow managed to avoid being commented upon in news accounts the 
next day, Bush chided CNN political correspondent John King when the latter 
overacted his part, too enthusiastically waving his hand when it apparently was, 
according to the script, his turn anyway.
KING: "Mr. President."
BUSH: "Well be there in a minute. King, John King. This is a 
scripted..."
A ripple of nervous laughter shot through the East Room. Moments later, 
the camera angle of the conference shifted to a side shot, revealing a ring of 
potted plants around the presidential podium. It would be hard to imagine an 
image that more perfectly describes American political journalism today: George 
Bush, surrounded by a row of potted plants, in turn surrounded by the White 
House press corps.
Newspapers the next day ignored the scripted-question issue completely. 
(King himself, incidentally, left it out of his CNN.com report.) Of the major 
news services and dailies, only onethe Washington Posteven 
parenthetically addressed the issue. Far down in Dana Millbank and Mike Allens 
conference summary, the paper euphemistically commented:
"The president followed a script of names in choosing which reporters 
could ask him a question, and he received generally friendly 
questioning." [Emphasis mine] "Generally friendly questioning" is an 
understatement if there ever was one. Take this offering by April Ryan of the 
American Urban Radio Networks: 
"Mr. President, as the nation is at odds over war, with many 
organizations like the Congressional Black Caucus pushing for continued 
diplomacy through the UN, how is your faith guiding you?"
Great. In Bushs first press conference since his decision to support a 
rollback of affirmative action, the first black reporter to get a crack at 
himand this is what she comes up

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Rumor Mill News Agents Forum RICHARD PERLE CAUGHT RUNNING A $100-MILLION SHEIK-DOWN Posted By: Rosalinda
Date: Thursday, 13 March 2003, 9:37 a.m. 
RICHARD PERLE CAUGHT RUNNING A $100-MILLION `SHEIK-DOWN' Richard Perle, one of the most outspoken war party figures in and 
around the Bush Administration, has been caught in a $100-million 
attempted blackmail ``sheik-down'' of the Saudis, which could land him in jail. As reported in the current (March 17, 2003) 
issue of The New Yorker, in an expose by Seymour Hersh, Perle 
met, in Marseille, France, on Jan. 3, 2003, with former 
Iran-Contra figure Adnan Khashoggi and a second Iraqi-Saudi 
businessman, and, according to Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar, 
offered to call off of his and his fellow neo-con's Saudi-bashing 
operations, in return for a $100-million payoff ``investment'' in 
one of his companies, Trireme Partners L.P. Of course, it was 
Perle who brought the stark-raving loon, Laurent Murawiec, before 
the Defense Policy Board, on July 10, 2002, to call for the U.S. 
military occupation of the Saudi oil fields; and it was Perle, 
again, who later got Murawiec his current job at the Washington 
office of the Hudson Institute--working under Meyrav Wurmser. The expose so unnerved the power-mad Perle, that he went 
berserk, calling Hersh a terrorist, during a Sunday CNN interview 
with Wolf Blitzer. Two weeks earlier, Perle had been similarly 
unnerved when Meet the Press host Tim Russert confronted him on 
his authorship of ``A Clean Break,'' the warplan that he, Doug 
Feith, David Wurmser, Meyrav Wurmser and others had written for 
Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996, calling for the invasion of the 
Palestinian Authority territory and the military overthrow of Saddam Hussein. The recent spate of public exposes of the ``Clean Break,'' 
and this latest expose of Perle's $100-million extortion scheme, 
are near to drawing blood. In yet another serious blow to the neo-con war party gang, 
the Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung (FAZ) published a major expose 
on Tuesday, March 11, of the Wolfowitz cabal inside the Bush 
Administration, directly nailing them as members of the 
philosophical kindergarten of Leo Strauss and Allan Bloom. The FAZ piece was a promo for a 90-minute television documentary 
on the same topic, which aired on Tuesday night on the German TV 
station, Arte. This is the second time in less than a week that 
the Leo Strauss role has been played up in the German media. Last 
week, it was the Suddeutsche Zeitung that lambasted the neo-cons 
and named Strauss as the godfather of the war party. By raising 
the role of Leo Straussas the fascist existentialist guru of the current breed of war party killers--some factions in Germany have clearly signalled that they are out to draw blood, and stop this damned war. These exposes will strengthen the position of Chancellor Schroeder, and the overall Franco-German resistance to the war, which, as LaRouche says, must also develop into a key element in the renewed Eurasian Landbridge push. In Germany, it is far more well-known than in the United 
States, that Leo Strauss was the associate and admirer of the 
official Nazi philosopher, Martin Heidegger, and the Nazi jurist 
Karl Schmitt. It was Schmitt who personally arranged for Strauss 
to leave Germany in 1934 on a Rockefeller Foundation grant--to go 
to England and France to study the original writings of Thomas 
Hobbes. From there, Strauss went to the New School, and then on 
to the University of Chicago, where he trained several 
generations of Neitzschean fascists, many of whom are now among 
the leading neo-cons. Paul Wolfowitz, for example, was the 
protege of the leading Straussian, Allan Bloom. When President

[CTRL] One ay to get rid of all that unwanted meat

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2842777.stm
Consumers 'conned over chicken'

Caterers are continuing to con

Some chicken contained beef and pork
consumers by serving chicken containing large amounts of water, pork and
beef.

An investigation by the Food Standards Agency has found thousands of
tonnes of chicken are still being bulked up to make them look bigger
than they are.

While the practice is not illegal, misleading or inaccurate labels are. It also
raises the prospect that some people who do not eat beef or pork for
religious reasons are eating it inadvertently.

In addition, it suggests consumers are paying too much for chicken that is
being marketed as 'fillet' or 'breast' when it is not.

The findings come 15 months after the FSA first reported that caterers
were selling bulked-up chicken.

Inspections

As part of a follow up exercise, Hull Trading Standards officials examined 25
samples of chicken taken from wholesalers and one manufacturing site
across the UK.

The chicken had been processed in either one UK plant or plants in
Belgium or Holland.

 What is even more unacceptable is the total disregard as to how offensive
this is to Muslim communities who may be eating food which is forbidden
by their religious beliefs

David Statham, FSA
They found that 15 of these
samples claimed to contain more chicken meat than they actually had.

Twelve samples contained 'non- chicken' DNA, such as pork or beef. Eleven
of these were wrongly labelled as Halal and suitable for Muslims.

Eighteen of the 25 samples were described as chicken breast or fillet when
they were not. Only chicken with no added ingredients should be
described in this way.

The FSA said it had passed its findings onto trading standards officers, who
will consider whether to take legal action against the firms involved.

It said it was determined to bring what it called a consumer con to an
end.

We know that in some cases consumers are not always getting what they
pay for and the Food Standards Agency is determined to stamp this out,
said David Statham, its director of enforcement.

What is even more unacceptable is the total disregard as to how offensive
this is to Muslim communities who may be eating food which is forbidden
by their religious beliefs.

Steve Butterworth, of the Trading Standards Institute, said: These matters
are of concern to everyone who eats chicken.

Consumers are being misled by other meat proteins being put into these
products.



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Posted on Mon, Mar. 10, 2003

Solar advocates take dim view of new fees
AGENCY WANTS TO TAX HOMES THAT GENERATE OWN POWER
By John Woolfolk
Mercury News

Californians who recently took the trouble to put up solar electric panels
expected hearty thanks
from a state desperate for clean energy to relieve its strained power grid.

Instead, they may be getting a bill.

A California Public Utilities Commission proposal would slap a charge on
consumers who start generating their own power. The reason: to cover
the high costs of electricity the state bought for utility customers during
the energy crisis two years ago.

Though aimed at big businesses that fire up their own generators to
escape high utility rates, the proposal also affects those who turn to solar
power.

Alternative power advocates say the extra charge will dampen interest in
solar systems and will undercut California's longstanding goal of pushing
alternatives to fossil fuels.

``California is a leader in renewable technology, and now it's the first
state to install a solar tax,'' said Doug Linney, president of the Next
Generation, a solar trade group in Oakland. ``If you're part of the energy
solution, you're going to get dinged.''

The proposal stems from worries that, if customers of the state's utilities
rush to install their own power systems, other ratepayers would be stuck
with the bill for the multibillion-dollar bonds and long-term power
contracts left over from the energy crisis two years ago.

``Costs have been incurred which now are inescapable,'' said Commissioner
Carl Wood. ``To the extent some customers leave the system, customers
left behind have to pay for it.''

Customers of Pacific Gas  Electric and the state's two other major
corporate utilities who installed solar systems on or after Jan. 17, 2001,
would be on the hook.

How much they would pay has yet to be decided.

But under one proposal, a PGE customer would pay a surcharge on the
power used from new solar panels. The charge would range from a half a
cent to 2.7 cents per kilowatt-hour. For an average monthly household use
of 500 kilowatt-hours, that would add anywhere from $2.50 to $13.50 to the
bill.

Start-up costs

Jacquelyn Hall, who spent $40,000 putting solar panels on her son's San
Jose home last year, said she might not have done it if she knew about the
proposed charge. Her system was designed to produce just enough power
to cancel out the bill each year.

``There can't be a break-even point if they're taxing you,'' Hall said. ``It's
such an expensive venture to begin with, I probably wouldn't have done
it.''

Eric Jorgensen, a solar installer whose San Jose home has been powered
by the sun since 1999, said his customers already must overcome high
purchase costs, utility hookup hassles and a discouraging scheme in which
they are not paid for power they put back on the grid.

``You're spending a lot of money and giving more benefits than taking
away,'' Jorgensen said, explaining that he believes the utilities benefit.
``You're doing them a favor.''

It's unlikely that most solar power customers would pay more than the
minimum charge, which is half a cent per kilowatt-hour.

Under the proposal, 1,800 of PGE's 2,000 current solar customers who
now pump surplus solar power back into the grid would have to pay just
the minimum charge.

And the proposal allows some 200 megawatts of new renewable projects to
be added each year with those customers also paying just the minimum.

That could cover most of the new solar systems built each year. All the
solar systems installed by PGE customers last year totaled just 7.5
megawatts.

Critics say any charge, however small, would deter needed investment in
solar. In light of such criticism, commissioners have offered two
alternatives that would fully exempt most or all solar customers and
postponed a vote on the matter until their March 13 meeting.

``Solar people will probably get a break,'' said Commissioner Geoffrey
Brown. ``The degree of the break -- whether it's a total or partial
exemption -- is the question. I just smell political blow- back to the point
where it appears they're going to be OK.''

Brown conceded there are so few solar customers that the amount they
would generate in fees would hardly be missed. ``It may not be worth
pursuing,'' he said.

The surcharge is rooted in concern over how to repay the state for buying
overpriced electricity on behalf of utility customers at the height of the
energy crisis in 2001, when companies like PGE could not keep up with
soaring market prices.

The state in November sold a record $11.3 billion in bonds to cover the
costs of electricity bought for utility customers in 2001. The state also has
signed some $40 billion worth of long-term contracts to supply those
customers with power over the next eight years.

While wholesale power prices have subsided, utility customers are still
paying inflated rates to

[CTRL] Gas Tax Increase

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http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

And it's about time.  I think a progressive tax should be implemented based
on fuel efficiency.  The better the MPG (as demostrated by your
registration at time of purchase) the less the tax (if any).  Obviously, the
thirstier the worstier.  Businesses (those who NEED the vehicles) get
breaks similar to purchases of other items NEEDED for conduct of business.

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The Dream In Flames

Brave American pilots will show Iraqi children how it feels to be vaporized...
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Dictator Bush and his wimpy quisling suckups at the New York Times, CNN, and Fox have proved that Adolf Hitler's strategy was right - if you tell a lie enough times it soon becomes the truth in the public mind.

And we see how this technique has now come full circle in this prerecorded nondebate about bombing Iraq into a deeper level of oblivion.

Remember late autumn 2002, when from seemingly out of nowhere Bush pulled the long-dormant Iraq issue out of nowhere? At the time the U.S. media were awash in stories about how many Americans would die from the president's ill-considered order to vaccinate the entire population for smallpox. That the president's father had just acquired a substantial interest in the company that was to make the vaccines never quite managed to make the front page.

The unsolved anthrax murders had already dissapeared as a story from the mainstream media, once the trail of suspicion led straight to the U.S. government's door. A permanent rigor mortis had already set into the 9/11 probe and the unsolved sudden murders of more than 3,000 Americans. But Enron and Halliburton's troubles seemed to be percolating a bit, as many business executives who had stolen millions from innocent but greedy Americans seemed to be headed for embarrassing questions in various courts. It was not until later that a Bush-appointed appeals court judge's order would take the heat off Cheney for engineering that whole deal that stole billions in energy costs from the people of California. Cheney never liked California; he's a Wyoming boy.

What the criminal administration needed was a distraction from all this consternation, and Iraq has been that and more.

Now, not one of those overpaid media succubi who smirk on the TV screen every night and tell you America is going to win this war against Iraq has the gonads to tell their dictator that his planned invasion of that bomb-pocked nation breaks every law known to man and signed by the United States: the Geneva Accords, the Nuremburg agreements and every treaty civilized people have endorsed since the Romans bugged out of Britain " it is illegal to attack someone if they're not attacking you. A pre-emptive war is not allowed by civilized people.

Hey, why would they ask such a question? It's only the reason why there's any peace in the world at all, that's why. You don't go around gunning down your neighbors because you think they're going to do something bad to you sometime in the future. Only a criminal psychopath would do something like that.

But the current president of the United States knows something more than all the diplomats in human history put together. After all, he says he's a religious man. And Jesus did say he brought not peace but a sword. That's George W. Bush's kind of religion. I'm sure you could convince him that somewhere in the Bible it says it's OK to obliterate anyone you suspect of having weapons of mass destruction even though you can't prove it. Wasn't that the rationale of the Biblical Israelites when they wiped out all those other tribes?

Or if it's not in the Bible, maybe those sophisticated designers of the Project for the New American Century, the ones who wrote America needed "a Pearl Harbor-type event" shortly before the World Trade Center came crashing down, can get it put in. Maybe in a new version of Deuteronomy 28:56-58, that part where God says mothers will have to eat their own children if they don't obey God's holy law, maybe Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz can change that to it's OK to nuke innocent families because their leader didn't obey orders from their masters to give them all the oil they wanted.

Probably most Christians wouldn't even notice the change. It's all about the collection plate, anyway.

Or I guess some religious people like the singing. Onward Christian Soldiers, marching off to war, with the cross of Jesus, going on before. Amen.

I heard the crosses they're taking to Iraq are made out of depleted uranium, too. A lot harder than gold. They can really smite the enemy with them, just like our drug czar, that Barry McCaffrey guy. You know he used to be a general and he was in charge of the operation that gunned down all those Iraqis trying to run away from Kuwait after the first Gulf War. They called it the "Highway of Death." A lot of American pilots thought it was just like a shooting gallery at an amusement park. I don't know if they got points for it or not. McCaffrey became real famous for killing all those people who didn't have a chance, driving rusted-out trucks trying to escape American jets. He's a true American hero.

Yep, America's really going to put on a show. The American armed forces have the coolest high-tech weapons ever, and they've been

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$1 Billion Proposed for DNA Testing
Administration Seeks to Clear Backlog of Analysis in Criminal Cases
By Dan Eggen
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Wednesday, March 12, 2003; Page A03

Attorney General John D. Ashcroft yesterday proposed spending more than $1 billion on DNA analysis in criminal cases over the next five years, vowing to eliminate a massive backlog that has left hundreds of thousands of genetic samples untested nationwide.

The plan, first suggested in President Bush's 2004 budget proposal, envisions a dramatic expansion of an FBI database that contains DNA profiles from across the nation, a move that would improve chances of matching samples recovered at crime scenes. The government also would provide millions of dollars to state and local governments for DNA testing in criminal cases.

The proposal would significantly increase the federal government's involvement in DNA testing, which has been widely acclaimed as a reliable tool for convicting or clearing criminal suspects and has played a central role in the ongoing national debate over the death penalty.

But some legal advocates immediately criticized the plan, because it offers relatively little funding for DNA testing by criminal defendants seeking to prove their innocence, and a leading Democratic lawmaker complained that the proposal came after years of inaction by the Bush administration.

The National Institute of Justice, an arm of the Justice Department, estimates that as many as 350,000 DNA samples remain unexamined in homicide and rape cases nationwide. As many as 300,000 samples collected from convicted offenders also have not been tested, the agency found.

The Bush administration proposal, which aims to clear the testing backlog in five years, would nearly double annual federal funding for DNA analysis to $233 million. Some of the money would be used to train scientists, prosecutors and others.

Ashcroft, joined at a Washington news conference by "America's Most Wanted" host John Walsh and victim advocate Kellie Greene, billed DNA technology as a way to solve crimes and prevent more offenses from being committed.

"We can solve more crimes through DNA testing, and we can do it by eliminating the substantial backlog of DNA samples for the most serious violent offenses," Ashcroft said.

Greene, a Florida sexual assault victim whose attacker was identified through DNA testing, said that "to this day, the only reason I know what the rapist looks like is because DNA tells me."

The FBI's database contains about 1.3 million DNA samples and has yielded more than 6,000 matches in criminal investigations, including probes into the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and the deadly anthrax mailings, officials have said.

Most of the proposed new funding would focus on identifying and prosecuting criminal suspects, with just $5 million a year allocated for post-conviction tests that can be used by defendants to prove their innocence.

Barry C. Scheck, a founder of the Innocence Project at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law in New York, said the administration's proposal "is long overdue" but will not do enough to protect the rights of defendants. Scheck cited the release of a man in Houston this week who served four years in prison after being wrongly convicted of rape because of mistakes in processing DNA evidence.

The Innocence Project reports that 123 people have been exonerated through post-conviction DNA testing, including 12 death row inmates.

"It's good the administration is doing this in using DNA as an investigative tool, but you can't have a one-sided approach to criminal justice," Scheck said.

A senior Justice Department official said that $5 million a year should be more than enough to cover the cost of post-conviction DNA tests, which generally cost $4,000 to $5,000 each. This official said that the demand for such tests is very limited, because many defendants are reluctant to offer DNA samples voluntarily.

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the Bush administration proposal comes after "years of shortchanging the nation's crime labs." Leahy is a lead sponsor of legislation that would give death row inmates the right to request DNA testing.

The FBI plans to ask Congress to let the bureau collect all DNA samples from the states, including those from Virginia, Louisiana and Texas that are taken from people who have been arrested but not convicted of crimes.

The Justice Department also published proposed rules yesterday that would expand the list of federal crimes that would merit inclusion in the FBI's DNA database, including most crimes related to terrorism.

In a separate briefing yesterday, Ashcroft told reporters that the Justice Department will concentrate on three priorities in enforcing environmental laws and attempt to link those laws to homeland security.

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Clear And Irrefutable Proof The US Government Planed And Executed
Genocidal Acts Against The Iraqi People.

03/13/03

Our Worst Fears Confirmed.


Washington professor Tom Nagy appeared tonight (March 13 , 2003) on the
national Swiss TV-channel SFDRS 1:

This Washington professor presented Pentagon papers providing hard
evidence on the past and present war-doctrines of the USAF and other US
troops .

These documents are hard evidence and proof of intentional genocide
against the entire Iraqi civilian population. These war crimes we committed
by destroying the water systems with precision bombing .

The bombing of the Iraqi water systems never was an obvious intentional
target ! It' worked well in 1991, so we can expect that they'll use it once
again. These US- War Criminals should be brought to justice.

A further US attack on Iraq's water purification systems will bring untold
deaths due to lack of clean drinkable water and will ultimately lead to the
deaths of million of Iraqi Civilians.

We really have to face this clearly.

 The US-Government is prepared to commit intentionally an unimaginable
GENOCIDE.

We have the common duty to do whatever it takes to stop this war,
everything possible which fits the concept of Peace and avoids the
concept of War .

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DIA's Declassified: IRAQ WATER TREATMMENT VULNERABILITIES (U)

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DTG: 221900Z JAN 91

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SUBJECT: IRAQ WATER TREATMMENT VULNERABILITIES (U)

AS OF 18 JAN 91 KEY JUDGMENTS.
1.IRAO DEPENDS ON IMPORTING-SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT-AND SOME
CHEMICALS TO PURIFY ITS WATER SUPPLY, MOST OF WHICH IS HEAVILY
MINERALIZED AND FREQUENTLY BRACKISH TO SALINE. 2.WITH NO
DOMESTIC SOURCES OF BOTH WATER TREATMENT REPLACEMENT PARTS AND
SOME ESSENTIAL CHEMICALS, IRAO WILL CONTINUE ATTEMPTS TO
CIRCUMVENT UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONS TO IMPORT THESE VITAL
COMMODITIES. 3.FAILING TO SECURE SUPPLIES WILL RESULT IN A
SHORTAGE OF PURE DRINKING WATER FOR MUCH OF THE POPULATION. THIS
COULD LEAD TO INCREASED INCIDENCES, IF NOT EPIDEMICS, OF DISEASE AND
TO CERTAIN PURE-WATER-DEPENDENT INDUSTRIES BECOMING
INCAPACITATED, INCLUDING PETRO CHEMICALS, FERTILIZERS, PETROLEUM
REFINING, ELECTRONICS,PHARMACEUTICALS, FOOD PROCESSING, TEXTILES,
CONCRETE CONSTRUCTION,AND THERMAL POWERPLANTS. 4.IRAQ'S
OVERALL WATER TREATMENT CAPABILITY WILL SUFFER A SLOW DECLINE,
RATHER THAN A PRECIPITOUS HALT, AS DWINDLING SUPPLIES AND
CANNIBALIZED PARTS ARE CONCENTRATED AT HIGHER PRIORITY LOCATIONS.
ALTHOUGH IRAQ IS ALREADY EXPERIENCING A LOSS OF WATERTREATMENT
CAPABILITY, IT PROBABLY WILL TAKE AT LEAST SIX MONTHS (TO JUNE 1991)
BEFORE THE SYSTEM IS FULLY DEGRADED. 5.UNLESS WATER TREATMENT
SUPPLIES ARE EXEMPTED FROM THE UNSANCTIONS FOR HUMANITARIAN
REASONS, NO ADEQUATE SOLUTION EXISTS FOR IRAQ'S WATER PURIFICATION
DILEMMA, SINCE NO SUITABLE ALTERNATIVES,INCLUDING LOOTING SUPPLIES
FROM KUWAIT, SUFFICIENTLY MEET IRAQI NEEDS.) 6.IRAQI WATER
QUALITY. SURFACE WATER FROM THE TIGRIS AND EUPHRATES RIVER SYSTEM
SUPPLIES ABOUT HALF OF IRAQ'S LAND AREA,INCLUDING URBAN AREAS AND
THEIR ASSOCIATED INDUSTRIES. IRAQ'S REMAINING AREA, PRIMARILY RURAL,
RELIES ON GROUND WATER FROM WELLS.THE QUALITY OF UNTREATED
WATER THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY VARIES WIDELY BUT GENERALLY IS
POOR. HEAVY MINERALIZATION, SUSPENDED SOLIDS AND,FREQUENTLY, HIGH
SALINITY CHARACTERIZE IRAQ'S WATER SUPPLY.ALTHoUGH IRAQ HAS MADE A
CONSIDERABLE EFFORT TO SUPPLY PURE WATER TO ITS POPULATION, THE
WATER TREATMENT SYSTEM WAS UNRELIABLE EVEN BEFORE THE UNITED
NATIONS SANCTIONS SALINITY CHARACTERIZE IRAO'S WATER
SUPPLY.ALTHOUGH IRAQ HAS MADE A CONSIDERABLE EFFORT TO SUPPLY
PURE WATER TO ITS POPULATION, THE WATER TREATMENT SYSTEM WAS
UNRELIABLE EVEN BEFORE THE UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONS WERE IMPOSED.
MOST IRAOIS PREFER TO DRINK IMPORTED BOTTLED WATER. 7. THE
MINERALS IN THE WATER INCLUDE CONCENTRATIONS OF CARBONATES,
SULPHATES, CHLORIDES, AND, IN SOME LOCATIONS, NITRATES.DRINKING
HEAVILY MINERALIZED WATER COULD RESULT IN DIARRHEA AND,OVER THE
LONG TERM, STONES FORMING WITHIN THE BODY. FOR INDUSTRIAL
APPLICATIONS, PIPES AND OTHER EOUIPMENT WOULD SCALE (BECOME
ENCRUSTED), EVENTUALLY CAUSING PLANTS TO SHUT DOWN. SCALING IN
BOILERS WOULD CAUSE EXPLOSIONS IF NOT PREVENTED OR REMOVED. 8.
MUCH OF IRAO'S GROUND WATER SUPPLIES ARE BRACKISH TO SALINE.
THE,LARGE RESERVOIRS NEAR BAGHDAD--THE THARTHAR, -. HABBANIYAH,
AND AL MILH LAKES--ARE SALINE. SINCE THESE LAKES SERVE AS CATCH BASINS
FOR FLOODS ON THE TIGRIS AND EUPHRATES RIVERS, THE IRAOIS MUST
REDUCE THE

[CTRL] CFR: Iraq Reconstruction Could Cost $20 Billion/Year...

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Report: Reconstruction in Iraq could cost up to $20 billion a year

Think tank says American support critical to mission

>From David Ensor
CNN Washington Bureau
Wednesday, March 12, 2003 Posted: 2:43 PM EST (1943 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Stabilization and reconstruction efforts in Iraq could cost up to $20 billion a year for several years, according to a report released Wednesday by a think tank.

The report from the Council on Foreign Relations urged President Bush to "make clear" the U.S. intention to "stay the course" in any post-war operation and win the support of the American public for such an endeavor.

The council -- comprised of experts from the government, the military and academia -- based its estimate on an assumed deployment of around 75,000 troops throughout a post-war period.

"Winning the peace is task number two," said retired Gen. Gordon Sullivan, a member of the task force that drafted the report, "Iraq: the Day After." Sullivan described a military victory in Iraq as the first goal.

The report says the president "should announce a multibillion dollar, multiyear post-conflict reconstruction program and seek formal congressional endorsement."

That program should commit at least $3 billion a year to the reconstruction of Iraq, the report says, in addition to the estimated $17 billion-a-year cost of 75,000 troops.

The report called on Bush to stress two messages: Explain the United States' vital interest in Iraq's future to the American people, so they will be willing to bear the cost of reconstruction; and to make the public commitment, so Iraqis understand the United States will not walk out before job is done.

Task force co-chairmen Thomas Pickering -- who served in the Clinton administration-- and James Schlesinger -- who served in the Nixon and Ford administrations -- said at a news conference that Americans should not assume Iraq's oil wealth will be available in the early years to help pay for Iraq's reconstruction.

"In the early years, oil revenues will be insufficient," Schlesinger said, noting that Iraq's oil infrastructure is in dire need of refurbishing and that the country's oil revenues are committed to supplying food and essentials.

The report also says that if the United States has to keep more than 75,000 troops in Iraq, which it calls "a genuine possibility," then the funding requirement "would be much greater" than $20 billion a year.

The Bush administration has refused to publicly say how much it thinks a war or reconstruction effort would cost in Iraq. Some administration sources say the White House is likely to ask Congress for between $60 and $95 billion to pay for a war and reconstruction.

Various administration figures have said there are too many variables to make such an estimate worthwhile. The lack of any number has frustrated many lawmakers, particularly Democrats, who say the U.S. public has a right to know what a war and cleanup operation in Iraq would cost.

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MIDAS EARS
by Israel Shamir

A new spectre haunts America. It enters the well-protected boardrooms of newspapers and banks, shakes the deep foundations of its towers. It is the spectre of glasnost: the dark secret of Jewish power is out. Just recently it was 'third rail', touch-and-die, deadly dangerous to mention, certain end to a career. Just recently, Joe Public snapped his TV from an eminence with an Israeli passport to a member of a Jewish think-tank, and muttered to himself: Surely it is just a coincidence that so many important and largely unelected people in our country happen to belong to this small minority group. Surely it is just a coincidence that they belong to different parties but reach the same conclusions. Surely it is just a coincidence that ninety per cent of American foreign aid goes to their cousins in prosperous Tel Aviv. Surely it is just a coincidence that they run our newspapers, television, cinema, universities. Anyway, we are not allowed to notice this elephant in our sitting room.

Only rare desperados comment, as Edgar Steele did on Rense.com: "The silence in America concerning Jews is simply deafening, isn't it? The old adage has it that, when visiting a foreign country, to ascertain who really runs things, one need determine only who is spoken about in whispers, if at all." Judged by this measure, the Jews rule supreme. Indeed, when I referred to 'Jewish media lords' during a UNESCO conference in the summer of 2001, the audience's hearts missed a beat.

The yet-unfought War on Iraq changed this. The American Ultimatum date was set on 17 March, the Jewish feast of Purim. Purim, 1991 saw destruction of Iraqi armies and death of 200,000 Iraqis. Too many coincidences for a purely American war. The Americans peeped into the bottomless abyss of World War Three and woke up from their generation-long stupor. Thus the first victim of the Iraqi War is not truth, but the strongest taboo in the West. A Democrat member of Congress, usually a most docile specimen, one James Moran, dared to tell his supporters: "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq we would not be doing this."

He was immediately slapped by a Jewish overseer: "It is simply stunning to hear Representative Moran make such accusations", said National Jewish Democratic Council Executive Director, Ira N. Forman. "First, a number of the current leaders of the anti-war movement are Jewish, and Jewish organizations have clearly not been at the forefront among those groups actively and stridently supporting a war in Iraq". Forman had spoken, and the media reported and amplified his view, and Moran duly recanted, slapped. But he is not the only one.

The secret is out, and like the secret of King Midas and his long ears, it is being sung now from coast to coast, despite the frantic efforts of the organised Jewish community to clamp the lid back on the boiling cauldron. Kathleen and Bill Christison,[i] two ex-CIA experts, exposed the link between right-wing American Jews and the Bush Administration. Edward Said, the most celebrated American thinker of Palestinian origin, stated the cause: "An immensely wealthy and powerful republic has been hijacked by a small cabal of individuals, all of them unelected and therefore unresponsive to public pressure."[ii]

He was seconded by courageous Herman, Neumann and Blankfort. These Americans of Jewish origin object to the un-elected, anti-democratic Jewish power as they would object to any disproportionate minority power. Their presence, as they were not afraid of the anti-Semitic label, was instrumental in turning the tide and saving the intimidated majority from its browbeating.

Edward Herman, the author of Manufacturing Consent (together with Noam Chomsky), wrote of "the powerful pro-Israel lobby in the United States, which advances Israeli interests by pushing for U.S. aid and protection to Israel, and, currently, by pressing for a war against Iraq, which again will serve Israeli interests. This lobby has not only helped control media debate and made congress into `Israeli occupied territory', it has seen to it that numerous officials with 'dual loyalties' occupy strategic decision-making positions in the Bush administration."

Jeffrey Blankfort, the Californian who defeated ADL in court and made Foxman pay heaps of dollars for his espionage against activists, took an important next step and rejected the views upheld by Noam Chomsky, Joel Beinin and Stephen Zunes, for these older radicals play down the crucial importance of Jewish power. Jeff Blankfort noticed the roots of the Rupture Evangelicals' meteoric rise in the US. This obscure sect would never have left its lair in remote Dixie, but for the Jewish media lords. Jeff noticed that when Black Entertainment Television was taken over by Viacom, whose owner, Sumner Redstone (né

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Dear Mr Bush


Did I really understand your speech to the UN General Assembly
correctly ? The United Nations should be willing to authorize war against
Iraq because Iraq has not complied with United Nations resolutions ? The
United Nations will become irrelevant if it does not enforce its resolutions
? If these be grounds for authorizing a war against a sovereign state then
the United Nations should immediately demand that Israel comply with the
more than 60 resolutions passed since 1948 it has chosen to ignore or face
having these resolutions enforced through military action. If the United
Nations risks becoming irrelevant by failure to enforce its resolutions
concerning Israel, will the United States then take unilateral action against
this rogue state ? Here is a partial list of United Nations Resolutions with
which Israel is in non- compliance. Can you or anyone in your
administration name a single resolution about which the UN took action in
order to bring Israeli policy into accord with the international community ?

1. Resolution 106 : ... 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid 2. Resolution 111 :
...'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people 3.
Resolution 127 : ...'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's zone' in
Jerusalem 4. Resolution 162 : ...'urges' Israel to comply with UN
decisions 5. Resolution 171 : ...determines flagrant violations' by Israel in
its attack on Syria 6. Resolution 228 : ...'censures' Israel for its attack on
Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control 7. Resolution 237 :
...'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees 8.
Resolution 248 : ... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in
Jordan 9. Resolution 250 : ... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding
military parade in Jerusalem 10. Resolution 251 : ... 'deeply deplores'
Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250 11.
Resolution 252 : ...'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as
Jewish capital 12. Resolution 256 : ... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as
'flagrant violation 13. Resolution 259 : ...'deplores' Israel's refusal to
accept UN mission to probe occupation 14. Resolution 262 :
...'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport 15. Resolution 265 : ...
'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan 16. Resolution 267 :
...'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of
Jerusalem 17. Resolution 270 : ...'condemns' Israel for air attacks on
villages in southern Lebanon 18. Resolution 271 : ...'condemns' Israel's
failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem 19. Resolution 279 :
...'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon 20. Resolution 280 :
'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon 21. Resolution 285 :
...'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon 22. Resolution 298
: ...'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem 23. Resolution
313 : ...'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon 24. Resolution
316 : ...'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon 25. Resolution
317 : ...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon 26.
Resolution 332 : ...'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon
27. Resolution 337 : ...'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's
sovereignty 28. Resolution 347 : ...'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon
29. Resolution 425 : ...'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from
Lebanon 30. Resolution 427 : ...'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal
from Lebanon' 31. Resolution 444 : ...'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation
with UN peacekeeping forces 32. Resolution 446 : ...'determines' that
Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel
to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention 33. Resolution 450 : ...'calls' on
Israel to stop attacking Lebanon 34. Resolution 452 : ...'calls' on Israel to
cease building settlements in occupied territories 35. Resolution 465 :
...'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist
Israel's settlements program 36. Resolution 467 : ...'strongly deplores'
Israel's military intervention in Lebanon 37. Resolution 468 : ...'calls' on
Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge
and to facilitate their return 38. Resolution 469 : ...'strongly deplores'
Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians
39. Resolution 471 : ... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide
by the Fourth Geneva Convention 40. Resolution 476 : ... 'reiterates' that
Israel's claims to Jerusalem are 'null and void' 41. Resolution 478 :
...'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its
'Basic Law' 42. Resolution 484 : ...'declares it imperative' that Israel re-
admit two deported Palestinian mayors 43. Resolution 487 :

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Rumsfeld, Bush Sr. Refused To Back 1989 UN Resolution To Investigate Iraq
For Human Rights Abuses

 By Jason Leopold

03/13/03

In 1989, the State Department released a report that described in
gruesome detail Iraqs violation of human rights, specifically how Iraqs
President Saddam Hussein tortured his own people for allegedly being
disloyal.

But despite the atrocities outlined in the report, which President Bush
now refers to when speaking about his desire to remove Hussein from
power, the United States, under the first Bush Administration, refused to
vote in favor of a United Nations resolution calling for an inquiry into Iraqs
treatment of its population and possibly indicting Hussein for war crimes
and human rights abuses.

The two people most vocal about refusing to go along with the U.N.
investigation are now lobbying for a U.N. resolution authorizing an invasion
of Iraq and are highly critical of the countries that refuse to back a U.S.
led coalition to use military force to remove Hussein from power. Those
men are Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary of State
Richard Armitage.

But in 1989, the first Bush administration refused to join the U.N. in
publicly protesting the forced relocation of at least half a million ethnic
Kurds and Syrians in the late 1980s, even though the act violated principles
of the 1948 Genocide Convention, according to Middle East Watch, a
human rights organization.

The Bush and Reagan administrations also declined to punish Iraq when it
used poison gas against Iranian soldiers in 1984 and Kurdish citizens in 1988.
Moreover, the U.S. did not oppose the fact that Hussein bought 45
American helicopters, worth about $200 million, with assurances they were
for civilian use, then transferred them to his military.

Armitage said in 1990 that that in retrospect, it would have been much
better at the time of their use of gas if we'd put our foot down,
according to an August 1990 story in the Los Angeles Daily News.

Despite U.S. intelligence reports that showed Iraqs capability of building
weapons of mass destruction and its inhumane treatment of its own
civilians, the Bush Administration turned a blind eye and instead focused
on improving U.S. relations with Hussein. The U.S. removed Iraq from its list
of countries supporting terrorism in 1983, which reopened the door to
federal subsidies and loans to Iraq.

Saddam Hussein made it clear that Iraq was not interested in making
mischief in the world, Rumsfeld said, who, as a Middle East envoy for the
Regan Administration, reopened discussions with Saddam in 1983,
according to the Daily News story. It struck us as useful to have a
relationship with him.

The current Bush Administration, many of whom served in the Reagan and
the first Bush administrations, refuse to acknowledge that their policies
toward Iraq at the time backfired and we may be paying a price for it now.
But at this point, Iraq does not pose a threat to the U.S. and threats
against the nation appear to be purely personal.

Under former Rumsfelds watch during his years in the Reagan and Bush
administrations, he and the former presidents allowed Hussein to build his
army and a cache of chemical and nuclear weapons. In fact, many of the
hawks that serve in the current Bush Administration assisted Husseins
regime in reaching these goals during the late 1980s and early 1990s.

For example, Judicial Watch said, according to the Daily News story, that
the U.S. extended $270 million in government-guaranteed credit from the
Export- Import Bank to buy other American goods, despite repeated
failures to make loan repayments on time. Since 1982, Baghdad has become
one of the biggest buyers of U.S. rice and wheat, purchasing $5.5 billion in
crops and livestock with federally guaranteed loans and agricultural
subsidies and its own hard cash.

Iraq benefited from a thriving grain trade with American farmers,
cooperation with U.S. intelligence agencies, oil sales to American refiners
that helped finance its military, and muted White House criticism of its
human rights and war atrocities, the Daily News story said.

Armitage admitted in 1990 that the Reagan and Bush administrations were
well aware of Husseins brutality, but still, the U.S. was more interested in
maintaining a healthy relationship with Iraq because the countrys vast oil
reserves was beneficial to U.S. interests.

 We knew this wasn't the League of Women Voters, Armitage said,
referring to Husseins regime, according to the Daily News story.
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Re: [CTRL] CFR: Iraq Reconstruction Could Cost $20 Billion/Year...

2003-03-13 Thread Mike Smith

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More likely they say that to put it in the budget
and then look good for having a surplus.

They haven't rebuilt anything in Afghanistan except
for a pipeline that wasn't built to begin with.

Any rebuilding done in Iraq with be entirely in the
energy sector. I simply do not believe that
the money will be spent on anything of real benefit
to the only true victims in this: civilian Iraqis.

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Could Cost $20 Billion/Year...
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/12/sprj.irq.costs/index.htmlReport:
Reconstruction in Iraq could cost up to $20 billion a yearThink
tank says American support critical to missionFrom David EnsorCNN
Washington BureauWednesday, March 12, 2003 Posted: 2:43 PM EST (1943
GMT)WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Stabilization and reconstruction
efforts in Iraq could cost up to $20 billion a year for several years,
according to a report released Wednesday by a think tank. The
report from the Council on Foreign Relations urged President Bush to "make
clear" the U.S. intention to "stay the course" in any post-war operation and
win the support of the American public for such an endeavor. The
council -- comprised of experts from the government, the military and academia
-- based its estimate on an assumed deployment of around 75,000 troops
throughout a post-war period. "Winning the peace is task number two,"
said retired Gen. Gordon Sullivan, a member of the task force that drafted the
report, "Iraq: the Day After." Sullivan described a military victory in Iraq
as the first goal. The report says the president "should announce a
multibillion dollar, multiyear post-conflict reconstruction program and seek
formal congressional endorsement." That program should commit at least
$3 billion a year to the reconstruction of Iraq, the report says, in addition
to the estimated $17 billion-a-year cost of 75,000 troops. The report
called on Bush to stress two messages: Explain the United States' vital
interest in Iraq's future to the American people, so they will be willing to
bear the cost of reconstruction; and to make the public commitment, so Iraqis
understand the United States will not walk out before job is done.
Task force co-chairmen Thomas Pickering -- who served in the Clinton
administration-- and James Schlesinger -- who served in the Nixon and Ford
administrations -- said at a news conference that Americans should not assume
Iraq's oil wealth will be available in the early years to help pay for Iraq's
reconstruction. "In the early years, oil revenues will be
insufficient," Schlesinger said, noting that Iraq's oil infrastructure is in
dire need of refurbishing and that the country's oil revenues are committed to
supplying food and essentials. The report also says that if the United
States has to keep more than 75,000 troops in Iraq, which it calls "a genuine
possibility," then the funding requirement "would be much greater" than $20
billion a year. The Bush administration has refused to publicly say
how much it thinks a war or reconstruction effort would cost in Iraq. Some
administration sources say the White House is likely to ask Congress for
between $60 and $95 billion to pay for a war and reconstruction.
Various administration figures have said there are too many variables
to make such an estimate worthwhile. The lack of any number has frustrated
many lawmakers, particularly Democrats, who say the U.S. public has a right to
know what a war and cleanup operation in Iraq would cost.
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[CTRL] clergy abuse, military abuse, experimentation, smart tags, cheney - Iraq $

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three from L Moss Sharman Conn. bishop's resignation OK'd By Sacha Pfeiffer, Globe Staff, 3/12/03 "The Vatican yesterday accepted the resignation of Bishop Daniel A. Hart of the Diocese of Norwich, Conn. -- the seventh American bishop to step down since the clergy sexual abuse crisis erupted last JanuaryDuring the past year, Hart had come under increasing scrutiny for his role in the abuse scandal, and he is named as a defendant in several lawsuits filed in Massachusetts and Connecticut that accuse him of negligence in his supervision of abusive priests. Church documents made public last year show that Hart played a role in the cases of several accused priests, including the Rev. Benjamin McMahon, who was arrested in the mid-1980s and accused of performing a sex act with another man, but received favorable treatment in court after Hart intervened. Hart also used the church's influence to ensure that the outcome of McMahon's case would be private, according to church records." http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/071/metro/Conn_bishop_s_resignation_OK_d+.shtml

End urged for state's abuse-case time limits By Rudolph Bush 3/11/03 "As more and more adults come forward with childhood memories of sexual abuse at the hands of clergy members, legislation that could dramatically change current time limits on prosecuting the abusers is working its way through the General Assembly. The state's 10-year statute of limitations on prosecuting child sexual abusers would be eliminated under a Senate bill scheduled for a committee vote Tuesday. The bill, which is sponsored by Sen. Chris Lauzen (R-Aurora) and has earned the support of a large network of abuse survivors, also would require priests to report suspicions of child abuse. And it would lift the two-year statute of limitations on filing civil suits based on childhood sexual abuse. http://www.chicagotribune.com

Military reviews Thomas incidents Probe may lead to dishonourable discharge for long-time cadet officer by Linda Richardson 3/12/03 Military officials are turning their attention to sexual predator Gordon Thomas following his convictions for sexually abusing female students and sea cadetsA retired elementary school teacher, Thomas, 63, was sentenced Monday to 12 years in prison for 21 sex offences involving 13 students."  http://www.saultstar.com/webapp/sitepages/content.asp?contentid=25498catname=Local+News


A History of Secret Human Experimentation
http://www.thepowerhour.com/postings-four/secrets-of-human-experimentation.htm 

Benetton Clothing to Carry Tiny Tracking Transmitters By Jim Krane 3/11/03 New York (AP) "Clothes sold at Benetton stores will soon contain microchip transmitters that allow the Italian retailer to track its garments from their point of manufacture to the moment they're sold in any of its 5,000 shops. Benetton's introduction of "smart tag" tracking technology will be the largest example of a trend now emerging in the retail industry, according to Phillips Semiconductors, a unit of the Dutch electronics giant that designed 15 million tags being delivered to Benetton this year. Benetton's Sisley line of clothing will contain a Philips Electronics radio frequency ID tag that will replace ubiquitous bar codes, which have to be manually scanned." http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAZPSUA6DD.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,912515,00.html
Guardian Unlimited Special reports Cheney is still paid by Pentagon contractor.htm
Cheney is still paid by Pentagon contractor 
Bush deputy gets up to $1m from firm with Iraq oil deal 
Robert Bryce in Austin, Texas and Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday March 12, 2003 Halliburton, the Texas company which has been awarded the Pentagon's contract to put out potential oil-field fires in Iraq and which is bidding for postwar construction contracts, is still making annual payments to its former chief executive, the vice-president Dick Cheney. The payments, which appear on Mr Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure statement, are in the form of "deferred compensation" of up to $1m (£600,000) a year. When he left Halliburton in 2000 to become George Bush's running mate, he opted not to receive his leaving payment in a lump sum but instead have it paid to him over five years, possibly for tax reasons. An aide to the vice president said yesterday: "This is money that Mr Cheney was owed by the corporation as part of his salary for the time he was employed by Halliburton and which was a fixed amount paid to him over time."
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[CTRL] Masons and schizophrenia research

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Schizophrenia has been linked to childhood sexual abuse

from http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-19.htm
The following article contains excerpts from two radio interviews (on CKLN Radio with Wayne Morris) by Lynne Moss-Sharman. Lynne Moss-Sharman is the Canada contact for ACHES-MC (Advocacy Committee for Human Experimentation Survivors - Mind Control) and she was the coordinator for the Making Up For Lost Time conference. She is a survivor of alleged mind control experimentation, alleged Masonic ritual abuse and an advocate for other survivors. 

"At that point I was fairly naive... I had come across some information (in a library encyclopedia of organizations) stating that the Scottish Rite in the USA funded, out of their charitable donations, alleged research on schizophrenia. I can remember reading that and thinking how curious, how chilling, that the upper echelon within the Masonic secret society would allegedly choose to use their charitable monies to fund research on schizophrenia which is very similar in some ways, to the diagnosis of Multiple Personality Disorder or Dissociative Identity Disorder which is displayed by 99% of the survivors of ritual abuse, and certainly by survivors of mind control experimentation. And I very naively asked Mr. Tooey if he was aware that monies were being used for these purposes, and he very proudly allegedly told me that "... well yes ... and here in Thunder Bay all the money that the Scottish Rite raised went to fund a research project on the study of schizophrenia at the University of British Columbia." "And then I came across another piece of information on a bulletin board out at the University shortly after that - there are research grants available at York University - something called the Rohr Institute which is allegedly funded by the Masonic Foundation of Canada which is headquartered in Hamilton, Ontario. It offers $8,000 and $35,000 research grants -- the $35,000 research grant is directly funded by the Scottish Rite Charitable Foundation of Canada through the Rohr Institute for the purpose of offering research grants for studies in the area of "intellectual disability." 


Schizophrenia linked to childhood sexual abuse - 1/16/02 - By Simon Collins "Schizophrenia has been linked to childhood sexual abuse by a groundbreaking study led by Auckland researchers. The psychologists' research, published in an American medical journal, has found that 50 per cent of female psychiatric inpatients surveyed in 15 international studies said they were sexually abused as girls. It says women in psychiatric hospitals are at least twice as likely as other women to have been abused"That doesn't prove that schizophrenia is caused by child abuse," said the principal researcher, Auckland University clinical psychologist John ReadIn 20 years of clinical experience before he took up a senior lectureship at Auckland seven years ago, Dr Read found that almost every patient could identify traumas that caused his or her schizophrenia. Apart from child abuse, common traumas included losing parents and relationship breakups. Some became distressed by social trauma." http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=636724thesection=newsthesubsection=general

The Contribution of Early Traumatic Events to Schizophrenia in Some Patients: A Traumagenic Neurodevelopmental Model Author(s): John Read; Bruce D. Perry; Andrew Moskowitz; Jan Connolly Psychiatry: Interpersonal and Biological Processes - Volume 64 Number 4 - Issue Dec 2001 Title: - Source: Psychiatry: Interpersonal and Biological Processes - Volume: 64 Number: 4 Page: 319 - 345 Publisher: Guilford Publications Inc. "The current diathesis-stress model of schizophrenia proposes that a genetic deficit creates a predisposing vulnerability in the form of oversenstivity to stress. This model positions all psychosocial events on the stress side of the diathesis-stress equation. As an example of hypotheses that emerge when consideration is given to repositioning adverse life events as potential contributors to the diathesis, this article examines one possible explanation for the high prevalence of child abuse found in adults diagnosed schizophrenic. A traumagenic neurodevelopmental (TN) model of schizophrenia is presented, documenting the similarities between the effects of traumatic events on the developing brain and the biological abnormalities found in persons diagnosed with schizophrenia, including overreactivity of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis; dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin abnormalities; and structural changes to the brain such as hippocampal damage, cerebral atrophy, ventricular enlargement, and reversed cerebral asymmetry." http://www.guilford.com, 72 Spring Street, New York, NY 10012, tel: (800) 365-7006, or (212) 431-9800, fax: (212) 966-6708, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Childhood abuse 'may trigger schizophrenia' - "Childhood

[CTRL] Masons and alleged abuse, Masons and the Southern Baptist Convention

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this may be heavy for survivors, it has descriptions of severe abuse

from http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-12.htm
by Kathleen Sullivan a survivor of ritual abuse.
...I have recently received proofs that he was allegedly a devoted Mason, even staying in a Masonic sponsored student home during his own college education. I also discovered that he adopted a number of children. Gee, what a surprise.

I was often told, during my childhood, that I was a "daughter of Templar" and that my father was a "Knight Templar." I understood that this allegedly referred to our assassin heritage. My main mind-control program was code named Omicron." Just two weeks ago, I received crucial validation found in a type transcript of a speech back in 1991, where he shared that the code name "Omicron" allegedly represents connections to politicians and the mafia. I had already been remembering both, for years!

Remembering that my dad was known as a "Knight Templar" has remained a confusion, as my father was never, to my knowledge, a member of a Masonic lodge. He was, however, deeply immersed in Aryan/Teutonic belief systems and was both allegedly a satanist and a Luciferian. I have independently remembered that one of dad's brothers was, and perhaps still is, allegedly connected to a Masonic lodge in Pottstown, PA or nearby. I have allegedly remembered being covertly, physically assaulted as a child in that building, upstairs and also allegedly meeting representatives from a military branch in the same part of the building.

I since had several other alleged "brushes" with Masonic connections. As an adult, my biggest ones took place in a room where I and a younger relative were both allegedly severely traumatized. I know for certain that the room is located in a building in the Washington, D.C. area. I have remembered being driven in a car, after the alleged assaults, past the Jefferson memorial and in the parking lot. I don't know if I was driven around it to disorient me, or if it was where the assaults took place. I haven't ever visited D.C. as a tourist under my own free will.

Since then, I have shared this set of memories with a person who I later found out is not trustworthy. He told me that the room I described is allegedly a secret inner room in the D.C. Masonic temple. I have no way of knowing if his proffered information was valid or not.

http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-17.htm
The following article comes from a radio interview between Wayne Morris (interviewer) and Claudia Mullen (alleged mind control survivor) on CKLN FM 88.1 Ryerson Polytechnic University, Toronto, INTERNATIONAL CONNECTION - Tape 15A.
...
In one section, Claudia discusses how she was traumatized by some of the doctors. " Sometimes they would allegedly send me to . . . people (they knew) in the city who were involved in the white supremacy groups . . . sometimes they would send me out to alleged Klan meetings and I would have to go to one of them at night and watch things being done to other people and then . . . have things done to me . . . be raped or eaten or whatever . . . you had enough trauma to make you forget whatever you were starting to remember. This would make it go away. Then you would forget this as soon as it happened too. Because nobody wants to remember something like that. One of the mind's defenses I guess when something really horrible happens is to forget it right away, usually. If it's bad enough. And then of course I had the personalities . . . they would come out for the trauma and then they would go back . . . and so Claudia would have no memory of what just happened. My shadows would, but I wouldn't. Unless they would give me the memory, it was as if it never happened to me."Claudia also discussed how dissociation occurred. "They knew that I could dissociate from the beginning, so they just caused me to dissociate even more, because the more you split, the easier it was to hide what they were doing. In other words, you can only split . . . they can't make you split, can't make you dissociate, but they can create the circumstances that they know if you are able to dissociate you will, you will do it. Like the trauma I just described, by sending me out to an alleged Masonic Lodge for a party . . . they would send me out and they knew something horrible was going to happen to me. They knew that I would split. That someone would be created to take whatever happened that night, and probably that's all they would do, and then they would go back, and then, you know, go to sleep, become dormant."Then Claudia talked about how the doctors would "cover their tracks" and about the alleged abuse in the Masonic Lodge . "So they would kind of mimic Satanic rituals to make it seem like that had happened, and if I ever told anybody, they would dismiss it right away . . . To make it seem, if I ever remembered, I would remember first the incest stuff, the stuff at home, and then it

[CTRL] Masons and the KKK

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"The KKK can be allegedly be traced to a group of Masons and had many Masonic style initiation rites, symbols and handshakes."

http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-9.htm

"CULT AND RITUAL ABUSE - Its History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America" by James R. Noblitt and Pamela Sue Perskin. Please use caution while reading this article, it may be triggering.

This book is an excellent source of information for those interested in learning more about ritual abuse. It is extremely well researched and very objective. It includes 5 pages (pgs. 100 - 104) on the possible connections between the Masons and ritual abuse.

"The question of Masonic involvement in dark elements of occultism has been a long standing controversy. Masons have argued they are unfairly attacked...On the other hand, critics continue to accuse them of blatant acts of impropriety and abuse." (pg 100) The concept of a god that is capable of good and evil, like Lucifer is considered Gnostic thinking. "Satan is sometimes considered a myth or metaphor, but one that must be "experienced" through abusive rituals to create sufficient suffering to achieve "enlightenment". (pg 101) Survivors are also encouraged to go to church to develop a "light side" of their personalities.

"(Margaret) Smith and many survivors...have described elements of Gnostic thinking in this kind of cult. Many patients...have explicitly reported abuse where (alleged) Masonic regalia, ceremonies, or members were present." (pg 101) The authors do not want to single Freemasonry as responsible for ritual acts of violence, but believe it may be true. They also believe it may be possible for cultists to operate in Freemasonry without the knowledge or consent of many of its members. And some cultists may imitate Masonic rituals during abusive ceremonies. The authors, however, are very perplexed by some things in the organization. The inverted pentagram of the Eastern Star is an example.

Masonry has clearly helped promote and preserve Gnostic thinking. It is alleged that the Hell Fire Club and Illuminati were both founded by Masons. The Hell Fire Club of St. Francis sometimes had orgies and Black Masses. The Illuminati have been referred to by patients as destructive cultists. The KKK can be allegedly be traced to a group of Masons and had many Masonic style initiation rites, symbols and handshakes. Survivors of ritual abuse allege traumatic experiences connected to KKK activities and describe the KKK as a cult. Aleister Crowley was also a high ranking Mason that allegedly engaged in ritual human sacrifice. The Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) which Crowley eventually was the head of, was also allegedly started by two high ranking Masons.

http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-10.htm
"Cult and Ritual Abuse" by J. Noblitt and P. Perskin
Other Masons include: Aleister Crowley (ritual human sacrifice, O.T.O., Golden Dawn), Dr. W. W. Wescott (Golden Dawn), Karl Kellner and Theodore Reuss (O.T.O.).
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[CTRL] The US Government Planned Executed Genocidal Acts In Iraq

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Clear And Irrefutable Proof The US Government Planed And  Executed Genocidal Acts Against The Iraqi People.

03/13/03

Our Worst Fears Confirmed.


Washington professor Tom Nagy appeared tonight (March 13 , 2003) on the national Swiss TV-channel SFDRS 1: 

This Washington professor presented Pentagon papers providing hard evidence on the past and present war-doctrines of the USAF and other US troops . 

These documents are hard evidence and proof of intentional genocide against the entire Iraqi civilian  population. These war crimes we committed by destroying the water systems with precision bombing . 

The bombing of the Iraqi water systems never was an obvious intentional target ! It' worked well in 1991, so we can expect that they'll use it once again. These US-War Criminals  should be brought to justice.

A further US attack on Iraq's water purification systems will bring untold deaths due to lack of clean drinkable water and will ultimately lead to the deaths of million of Iraqi Civilians.

We really have to face this clearly.

 The US-Government is prepared to commit intentionally an unimaginable GENOCIDE. 
 
We have the common duty to do whatever it takes to stop this war, everything possible which fits the concept of Peace and avoids the concept of War .

Our Swiss reader has been kind enough to provide this further update

Hi Tom ,

Yes , your right , it's already late-night here in Switzerland , but this
incredible war-craze merits every effort at any time to be stopped . 
So this is what happened on Swiss-TV tonight :


Tonight , March 13., 2003 , approx. 21:15 Swiss Time , the Swiss National
TV-Channel SFDRS 1 broadcasted it's regular weekly show MTV (stands in
German for Menschen , Technik , Wissenschaft = Humans , Technology ,
Science) . 

In the prime-news at 20:00 they gave already a short info on this
coming issue , that an interview with US Professor Tom Nagy on the Water-War
and Genocide on the Iraqi population will be broadcast in the MTW-show .
Professor Nagy works at the George Washington University , Washington DC,
20052 USA , in the Department of Management Science .
His email address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,
his website-url is :
http://home.gwu.edu/~nagy/

both of these links were provided on the Swiss-TV homepage
http://www.sfdrs.ch
and there under programs(Sendungen)/MTV , and there was also the link to the
declassified Pentagon papers he cited and explained in the interview :
http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/declassdocs/dia/19950901/950901_511rept_91.html


During his interview (about 15 minutes altogether) , Mr. Nagy presented
several Pentagon-files from 1991 to 1998 .  He said these documents were strictly classified until they succeeded in their struggle to get them
declassified not so long ago . 

He showed a Pentagon paper from 1991 and explained that it contains the USAF's strategy to  intentionally destroy the Iraqi water-systems , which is a very hard breach of the Geneva-conventions and therefore a warcrime to be prosecuted under international law .  

When asked by the interviewer , if he shares this view , Mr. Nagy was sad because he had to agree completely . He showed then further Pentagon papers from 1998 which made the following statements and comments necessary from his part : the USAF concluded , that this method used in the first Gulf-war was very effective , even more in combination with the fact , that the US and the UK abused the embargo to prevent Iraq from the import of chlorine for water-desinfection .  

This drama caused already the death of more than 500'000 Iraqi children , Mr. Nagy said , and currently are 6000 Iraqi children dying in a week due to nothing else than the lack of clean water ...  .   

And then he went on saying , that the US Generals found this method really convincing and working , and that the orders given to the USAF for the coming war give precise information on the planned and intentional destruction of the entire Iraqi water-supply-system .  

He said , the USAF will therefore use their high-precision laser-guided missiles again to bomb the Iraqi water-systems definitely into the ground now , and that this will be officially  communicated as 'collateral damages' . 

And then he made a kind of résumé of all these bitter facts and had to conclude , that there is no other way to look at this than as a clear attempt to commit intentional Genocide , because the USAF and the US Army knew and knows today that this strategy will kill literally Millions of innocent Iraqis . He said it will be  only a matter of months then until probably the great majority of Iraqis will have died , the children first , for they are sick already now . .

This is in brief the essential message which was given in this interview . 

Well Tom , this is what I can do for the moment . I have no idea if this serves your request , but I hope so for now . If you need further details or information , please

[CTRL] Video Link - CIA Analyst On Who Is REALLY Pushing This War

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[CTRL] Video Link - Who Gassed The Kurds? Who's Pushing This War?

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[CTRL] Israel's Grand Design: Leaders Crave Area from Egypt to Iraq

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Israel's Grand Design: Leaders Crave Area from Egypt to Iraq
by John Mitchell Henshaw

Nearly 34 years ago, an America-firster used The American Mercury magazine to warn of the danger posed by Zionism and its rule of Washington and the Mideast. John Henshaw wrote this article shortly after Israel laid claim to the annexed land during 1967 Arab-Israeli war. This article first appeared in the spring of 1968.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*

The metamorphosis of tiny Israel from a midget to a giant is in the making. The grand design of Judaic-Zionist expansionist doctrine is to seize all the oil-rich lands from the shores of the Euphrates to the banks of the Nile.

In defining the aims of Zionism, Hebrew scholar Levnoch Osman recently said: "In our eternal Book of Books (the Torah), the lofty ethical teachings of which are cherished by all mankind, the land of Israel is described not as a long, narrow strip of land with wavy, crooked borders, but as a state with broad natural borders. God has promised to Patriarch Abraham the following:

"I give unto them the land where they have sown their seed, from the river of Egypt unto the great river of Euphrates (Genesis 15:18). And so, in order to realize the words of this prophecy, the Israeli state had to continue, not in the borders it has today but within its broad historical boundaries."

And as far back as 1952 Moshe Dayan, the present Israeli defense minister, declared:

"Our task consists of preparing the Israeli army for the new war approaching in order to achieve our ultimate goal, the creation of an Israeli empire."

The British historian Arnold J. Toynbee, who served as an adviser on Near Eastern affairs to the British delegation at the Versailles Conference, in a newspaper article published in June last year stated the Zionist aims in these words:

We are Jews, the living representatives of Judah, one of the 12 tribes of Israel that conquered most of Palestine in the 13th century B.C. We held Judahs share of the conquered territory for seven centuries, till we were deported by Nebuchadnezzer in 587 B.C. We were back again within less than half a century, and we then held Judea, once more, for the next 773 years, till we were evicted by the Romans in A.D. 135. We have never renounced our claim to the land of Israel. We have always hoped, believed, and proclaimed that we shall get this land back again. It is our land, we contend.After another 1,883 years we did recover a foothold there in 1918, and during the half-century since then, by devoted hard work, ability and military valor, we have built up our present national State of Israel, and have inflicted three smashing defeats on the Arabs, who have been trying to evict us again.We want to have a country of our own again, like other peoples and like our own ancestors. We also need to have a country of our own, because, since the conversion of the Roman empire to Christianity in the fourth century A.D., we have been penalized and persecuted by the Western Christian majority among whom we have had to live.The persecution has culminated in the unprecedented crime of genocide, which has been committed against us in our lifetime by a Western people, the Germans, in Europe. We are not going to let the Arabs commit the same crime of genocide against us here, in our own land of Israel.

Genocide in Six-day War

Apologist Toynbee omitted mentioning the fact that the Jews themselves are currently engaged in genocide. During the Sis-Day War last summer, Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan ordered Brig. Gen. Yeshaahu Gavish, the Israeli commander of the Sinai campaign, to ruthlessly drive the hapless Egyptian troops into the Sinai Desert to die of thirst, hunger and heat. Temperature on the arid Sinai rise to more than 100 degrees during the day. For over two weeks thousand of wretched Egyptian stragglers wandered over the swirling wastes finally drop dead in their tracks.

U.S. reconnaissance planes flying on the perimeter of the Sinai Desert took hundreds of pictures of the stragglers and reported there were 50,000 Egyptians dead or dying on the desert at the time. The U.S. Air Force loaded 60,000 gallons of water in five-gallon jerry-cans on pallets and prepared to drop them in the area where stragglers were observed. However, Defense Secretary Robert McNamara ordered the projected mission of mercy halted after he received phone calls from White House foreign policy-planner Walt Rostow and UN Ambassador Arthur Goldberg.

This flagrant violation of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of prisoners of war amounted to genocide, designed to destroy a whole nation.

Newspaper reporters visiting the war zones in Syria and Jordan, reported that if one sniper in a village fired on Israeli troops, the whole village was destroyed including the women and children. Napalm is frequently used.

This systematic extermination is an ideological doctrine of Zionism. The leading exponent of

[CTRL] Wanted Dead or Alive: Osama Hussein or Saddam Bin Laden

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Wanted Dead or Alive: Osama Hussein or Saddam Bin Laden
By Mike Schelstrate

The recent scripted press conference hosted by President Bush included a very interesting question by a reporter; If you order war, can any military operation be considered a success if the United States does not capture Saddam Hussein, as you once said, dead or alive'? This is a very interesting question.   

To my knowledge, the current President Bush has never said he wanted Saddam Hussein dead or alive, at least not that has been widely distributed in the mainstream media. The party line has been restricted to the stated policies of Weapons of Mass Destruction Disarmament and Regime Change.

Bush has famously declared he wants Osama Bin Laden dead or alive. In fact, this is one of his more popular quotes, replayed repeatedly in the media for months following the September 11 terrorist attack. I clearly remember Cowboy Bush leaning back in his chair in the Oval Office, and declaring in a gruff voice something similar to, I remember a poster from the old west; Wanted Dead or Alive. This is my intention for Mister Osama Bin Laden. People all over the world saw this video clip, and is one of the reasons the Cowboy nickname was attached to our fearless leader by the Europeans. Could the reporters question have possibly been an innocent mistake? Not likely in a scripted press conference where all questions are approved beforehand by Ari Fleischer and his staff.

This press conference is a great example of professional lies and disinformation propagated by the media in conjunction with the current administration in Washington. If the Iraqi regime are not connected to the terrorist attacks, we have no reason to invade Iraq at this time. The entire Bush Administration has been working furiously during the last year in an attempt to link Osama Bin Laden with Saddam Hussein in order to legitimize the previously planned attack on Iraq. Thus far, they have failed to find a single shred of credible evidence to support this claim. Every time they produce another flimsy counterfeit link, it is exposed immediately as being false. Establishing this link is imperative to sway public opinion in favor of the war. Obviously, they are growing sufficiently desperate in their pursuit to resort to Orwellian doublespeak in an attempt to get their message across.

My greatest concern regarding this incident is that this scripted attempt at impressing a falsehood on a trusting public goes beyond propaganda. This is a sublime form of mind control. Implant a blatantly false suggestion in the minds of the listeners, followed by an enforcement of the suggestion with supporting comments. Repeat as necessary. Eventually the listeners will be convinced that the greatest absurdity is in fact truth. Two plus two equals five, or whatever the government wants it to equal.

Bushs hundred year War on Terrorism is a war against a faceless enemy. This makes it difficult to retain the public support necessary to continue the war effort. Immediately following the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the press vilified Osama Bin Laden as the mastermind. Putting a face on the enemy provides people with a focal point; now the American public had a despicable individual to hate. This worked well for our invasion of Afghanistan, President Bushs approval rating remained over 70% for many months during this aggressive action. The daily papers were filled with ominous pictures of the villain, and breathtaking accounts of how we almost caught him on numerous occasions. After the takeover of Afghanistan was complete, the hunt for Osama Bin Laden faded into the background. The Bush Administration focused their attention on the next phase of their attempt to establish a New World Order, conquest of Iraq, repossession of the oil reserves, and the remaking of the Middle East. Documents have been uncovered detailing the campaign for this illegal action by members of the current administration dating as far back as 1998. A massive public relations ploy was required to convince a gullible public to support the invasion. The government has found it desirable to transfer the malignant feelings people felt towards Bin Laden to Saddam Hussein in order to put a familiar face on this enemy, and retain public support for action. We have witnessed multiple efforts to accomplish this falsehood. A report that suspected hijacker Mohammed Atta met with Iraqi intelligence officers in Europe was one of the first attempts, and shows how long ago the plans to link Iraq to Al Qaeda were set in motion. This report was not credible, and was swiftly debunked by most credible experts. Many additional attempts to fabricate this link have followed. To date, all have been unsuccessful.

President Bush stated in the press conference, Even if the fiendish Iraqi dictator was not involved with Al Qaeda, he has

[CTRL] Alex Jones - Police State II The Takeover... download

2003-03-13 Thread Mike Smith

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This week I've put Police State II The Takeover by
Alex Jones on my website. It's the full length film folks. You'll need
RealPlayersize is 201 megabytes comprising both parts.

http://control-alt-delete.ca/Alex_Jones-Police_State_II_The-Takeover-(1of2).rm

http://control-alt-delete.ca/Alex_Jones-Police_State_II_The-Takeover-(2of2).rm

http://control-alt-delete.ca/page2.html (for other
clips/films)

The film details how the government uses agents
provacateur to disrupt peaceful
protest by causing vandalism, violence, and
assaulting police by throwing
projectiles. The police are told not to "break
ranks" (ie: suffer the abuse) until
they are in a very heated, frustrated fenzy. When
they are "cut loose", they 
go rampant billy-clubbing, macing, pepper spraying,
tazing anything they can.

There's some really good footage from the Seattle
WTO riot that is cleary indicative 
this.

As we all know, the story ends by the constitution
being effectively suspended in Seattle.

The film also documents the ever increasing
militarization of the police, and integration 
with the armed forces, contrary to posse
comitatus.

I can tell by the fwd's here on CTRL that some of
you are on other lists. Please fwd this.

I don't care about the hits I do care about
waking up sheep.

BTW... coming soonBohemina Grove... full
length.

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For the past year the MadCowMorningNews has been reporting evidence
indicating that the terrorists were NOT islamic fundamentalists but
swinging Arab wanna-be James Bond's.

According to what i read/heard, hilton is saying his sources are
saying the same thing.

I suspect there's (even) more to come



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 STANLEY HILTON: FBI PAID RENT FOR 911 TERRORISTS!!

 Webfairy is right!!  This interview with Stanley Hilton the
 lawyer who represents the greatest number of 911 victim families
 is a must!!

 http://www.propagandamatrix.com/audio_stream.ram

 Hilton says among other things that he has depositions that prove
 the FBI paid the rent for the 911 terrorists!!  I would like Dan
 Hopsicker's opinion on this.

 He also says 911 terrorists were involved with the first WTC
 bombing and the OKBOMB --- in exactly the same way I have
 maintained --- setting up Moslems as scapegoats.  The FBI and CIA
 carried out the operations side there also.

 Brian Downing Quig


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 Ariel Sharon addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party: 
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Re: [CTRL] Alex Jones - Police State II The Takeover... download

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This week I've put Police State II
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Sorry to rain
on your parade, but the protest against the war in Iraq here in Chicagos last week in the Loop was as tame as a babys butt and the
establishment presence was minimal.   The
teenagers and college kids did their simplistic protest and the police were
standing by grinning.  The protection of
the establishment at the time of the international economic leaders here in Chicago several months ago was very impressive,
but the protest against the war in Iraq was just an oh well thing. 



    








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Re: [CTRL] Alex Jones - Police State II The Takeover... download

2003-03-13 Thread Mike Smith

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So you disagree that through incrementalism a
police state is at the end of a slipery slope? Yes or No?

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II The Takeover... download

This week I've put Police State II
The Takeover by Alex Jones on my website. It's the full length film folks.
You'll need RealPlayersize is 201 megabytes comprising both
parts.

Sorry to rain on
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Iraq here in
Chicagos last week in the
Loop was as tame as a babys butt and the establishment
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standing by grinning. The
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leaders here in Chicago several months ago was very impressive,
but the protest against the war in
Iraq was just an oh well thing.

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A word of warning to all those who are ecstatic and jumping over Stanley
Hilton's so-called revelations. He and Jones combined are extremeley
dangerous. Recently, Jones wrote a piece on Patriot II that was full of
fabrications and shameless distortions. Jones even fabricated a section of
bill S22 that he said was going to call for the mandatory registration of
all firearms in the country. The bill actually contained a specific
provision prohibiting that.

His interview with Hilton was full of just as many distortions and I have
never trusted or accepted Honneger's modified-limited hangout and I have
proven it to be false in by upcoming book, Crossing the Rubicon. The
reason is simple: Honneger asserts that the attacks were masked by some 9-11
exercise which prevented officials from knowing of real hijackings. In my
book I establish the exact times that FAA knew of the 9-11 hijackings and
that they were NOT drills. Then I show the exact breakdowns in proceedure
that occurred after it was known that they were real hijackings, after FAA
and NORAD knew that the twin towers had been hit and after the White House
and Secret Service had issued clear warnings to prevent Flt 93 from reaching
Washington. Flt 93 was shot down pursuant to that order.

It is my strong belief that Stanley Hilton is the Daniel Sheehan of the new
century and that anyone who allies with him will be as discredited and broke
as those who supported the Christic Institute. He has rounded up 400 victim
families and he will destroy their case exactly the same way that Sheehan
destroyed Martha Honey's and all who were involved in that one. As for Alex
Jones I still want to believe that he is just over-energized, careless and
sloppy. But even at that he is playing directly into the opposition's hands.

Hilton's discourse was the most unrpofessional dialogue I have ever heard
from a lawyer in a public setting. And the man was a close colleague of Bob
Dole. Does anyone get the picture?

Read below for just one of his many factual and very serious exaggerations
in the radio broadcast. Before allying with someone who insists that
they're coming after white people I encourage anyone who signs on to this
thread to click on the link and listen to the full broadcast for yourselves.
Make up your own minds. If, after that, you still want to align with this
nonsense then it's on you and you will deserve what you get for it.

Mike Ruppert

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I listened to this interview very closely.

Mark my words.

Alex Jones is a bit megalomanical and he has been salted with such
incredible nuggets of disniformation that he will be destroyed by his own
carelesness. He made at least a dozen - small in his mind - factual
distortions during broadcast. As one example, McCarthy-like he said he had
all these sources about how Judicial Watch people had been threatened with
arrest at gunpoint for trying to serve a subpoena on the White House asking
why Bush was taking Cipro before the attacks. The actual real story is that
Judicial Watch process servers were trying to serve Cheney with a summons on
bahlf of the suit filed by Halliburton shareholders and they were denied
admittance by guards who happened to be armed. This is a classic Alex Jones
screw up! I recently caught and indirectly confronted him over outright
fabrications regarding Patriot II.

But Hilton, who was a senior staffer to Bob Dole is far, far worse. He is
the reincarnation of Daniel Sheehan who will destroy the lawsuit from the
inside. Not only did he pander to pro-white,

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Euphorian wrote:Apparently you missed the occupation point. Engaland, Germany, Turkey,Saudi Arabia (weapons systems if nothing else), Kuwait (armed forces),Afghanistan, SoKorea, Japan, Israel, to start your list. This is not always somuch overt as it is subtle.Not to mention all the puppet-regimes the U.S. government has put in place around the world, usually by fomenting military coups to overthrow legally-elected governments...While the U.S. government may not overtly colonize other countries, it has consistently covertly tampered with the internal politics of countries in which it, and the big corporations which finance it, have a financial stake...Cuba (pre-Castro), Guatamala, Iran, Chile, are all examples...
The money aspect is very deep and any country that forgoes the Americancapital expenditure is like a caffeine addict going cold turkey. More like a heroin addict going cold-turkey -- and the thing is, there HAVE been countries who HAVE gone the "cold-turkey" route, only to have the U.S. government covertly overthrow such regimes so that a regime more willing to kowtow to U.S. demands will be installed...
Germany might have been a democracy had the Americans stayed out ofthe First Great War. This war -- along with the Spanish-American Warundertaken by McKinley -- was the beginning of the empire building.Actually it started earlier; consider the Mexican-American war of the 1840s, and the campaign to eradicate the Native American population... June.

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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=386919
By Andrew Grice and Paul Waugh

14 March 2003

Tony Blair's problems over Iraq deepened yesterday when Robin Cook, the
Leader of the Commons, suggested he would resign from the Cabinet if
Britain went to war without a clear United Nations mandate.

Mr Cook spoke out against immediate military action at a cabinet meeting,
leaving other ministers with the clear impression he would join Clare Short
by quitting in protest at the absence of a new UN resolution. The
assumption is that Robin would go, one cabinet minister said last night.
He was more forcible than he had been previously.

Mr Cook has always been a strong supporter of the UN and wants Hans
Blix, the chief UN weapons inspector, to be given the extra time he wants.
He and Ms Short are also worried that a war without a fresh resolution
might lack legal authority.

The Prime Minister's official spokesman conceded that there were divisions
in the Cabinet after a 45-minute discussion on Iraq. He said a number of
ministers raised perfectly valid points about what everyone accepts is a
very complicated issue.

He insisted that the discussion was serious, determined and very good-
natured and that all ministers wanted to see a further UN resolution. But
he said there was only broad support for Mr Blair's strategy -- weaker
than the rock-solid support claimed after previous cabinet debates on
Iraq.

Mr Blair promised to call an emergency cabinet meeting if, as expected,
the efforts to secure a new UN resolution end in failure. That session
would almost certainly be asked to support a war -- the point at which Ms
Short and Mr Cook would resign. Several junior ministers are likely to join
them.

Ms Short briefed the Cabinet on the planned humanitarian relief effort in
Iraq that would follow a war. Fellow ministers agreed her continued
presence was extraordinary after her attack on Mr Blair's reckless
strategy on Sunday.

Last night Ms Short told the BBC she had no regrets. I said what I said
because I was fearful that we were just going to end up in conflict
without everything being properly attended to, she said. I did it because
I thought it was necessary to draw attention to these things. Who knows,
if the thing comes out right, I will just be happy.

The special cabinet meeting, likely to be held early next week, would be
followed by a critical Commons vote. Mr Cook is pressing for the MPs to be
allowed to vote before military action starts but Labour whips favour a
slight pause, believing this would minimise the Labour rebellion.

In the Commons, Mr Cook said he would allow parliamentary time for any
resignation statements by ministers in the timetabling of Commons business
for next week.

In the most definitive government statement so far on the issue of legal
advice, Mr Cook made clear that Lord Goldsmith, the Attorney General,
had told Mr Blair a war was already covered by international law. Such
advice was generally kept confidential but could be made public in
exceptional circumstances, he said, though he predicted that it would
not have a dramatic or sensational impact.

John Reid, the Labour Party chairman, said the backbencher Ann Clwyd
was a possible replacement for Ms Short. He said: I think the Labour
benches are full with potential talent. I think Ann Clwyd speaks with a
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New Yorks City Council opposes Iraq war

By Bill Vann
14 March 2003

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An antiwar vote Wednesday by the City Council in New York, the city that
suffered the greatest loss of life in the September 11, 2001 terrorist
attacks, has further exposed the Bush administrations hypocritical
attempt to exploit those deaths as a pretext for aggression against Iraq.

With a 31-17 vote, the New York City Council joined nearly 150 other cities
and counties that have passed measures opposing war.

The vote in New York, however, was particularly significant given the
deaths of nearly 3,000 people at the World Trade Center 19 months ago.
The Bush administration has repeatedly invoked this atrocity as the
principal argument for going to war, despite the absence of any evidence
linking the regime in Baghdad to the terrorist attacks. In passing the
measure, the council rejected this argument as well as explicit appeals to
support the war in the name of the September 11 victims

Opposition to the looming war appears greater in New York City than in
the country as a whole. Recent polls have shown less than 20 percent of
New Yorkers supporting a unilateral US attack against Iraq and nearly half
opposing war under any circumstances.

These polls, like the council vote itself, are a pale reflection of the
overwhelming opposition that exists to the Bush administrations policy of
military aggression.

The resolution passed by the council opposed any military action unless it
could be demonstrated that Iraq poses a real and imminent threat to the
security and safety of the United States and that all other options for
achieving compliance with UN resolutions had failed. The resolution
further called for UN weapons inspectors to be given a full and fair
opportunity to complete their work.

Initially, just two City Council members introduced the resolution last
October, and it was widely expected that it would never come to a vote.
Most measures that are brought before the full body are backed by a
substantial share of the 26-vote majority needed for passage.

By the middle of last month, on the eve of a February 15 demonstration
that saw over half a million people take to the streets of New York in
opposition to war, only eight other Council members had signed on to the
bill and it had not even been assigned to a committee.

It was clear that the shift came as council members sniffed the political
winds and concluded that their constituencies were overwhelmingly
opposed to an attack on Iraq, making approval of a resolution a safe
political move.

Before it was brought to a vote, however, the bodys Democratic
leadership worked to soften the language of the measure, removing
sections sharply critical of the Bush administration. These included
warnings that the war could bring with it the most devastating
consequences imaginable, not just in the Middle East but to our own
shores as well and that the Bush administrations doctrine of preemptive
war could lead to the eruption of military aggression around the globe.

In the debate before a packed City Council chamber, Republican and right-
wing Democratic Council members denounced the resolution as anti-
American, invoking both support of US troops in the Persian Gulf and
memory of the September 11 victims. One Democrat held up a picture of a
friend killed at the World Trade Center and insisted that the war the Bush
administration is preparing will be a fight for our democracy.

The bills principal sponsor, Harlem Democrat Bill Perkins, defended the
measure. With our economy in peril, a war in Iraq will drain urgently
needed resources for our cities, our suburbs and our small towns, he
said. And there is the human price of war. Those who declare war are
usually not the ones who have to fight it.

Other major cities that have passed resolutions opposing a US war against
Iraq include Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland,
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White House decisions on a UN vote changing by the hour

TIM CORNWELL DEPUTY FOREIGN EDITOR

TO VOTE, or not to vote. That was the question facing George Bushs top
advisers yesterday.

Whether to face the slings and arrows of the outrageous French in the
United Nations Security Council, or to abandon a council vote altogether
rather than risk a damaging defeat.

In a day of mixed messages and fluctuating fortunes, the decision appeared
to differ almost by the hour.

One moment, Ari Fleischer, the White House secretary, was hinting at
more time for debate; the next Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State,
was threatening that the day of reckoning is fast approaching.

Britain yesterday reduced its set of six benchmarks for Saddam Hussein to
five - as well as hinting on flexibility over a 17 March deadline.

The Iraqi leader need not make a televised confession to owning weapons
of mass destruction.

Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, said: If the only issue ... is whether or
not he makes a TV broadcast, then wed happily drop that.

The concession, passing up the demand to humiliate as well as disarm the
Iraqi leader, was but one of many diplomatic manoeuvres yesterday. But
the UK stuck to its demands for a resolution that he immediately answer
all remaining questions on his arms programmes.

That was far too tough for France, which appeared to reject out of hand
almost any UN resolution from the US-British camp. As Downing Street
heaped its nastiest abuse yet on the folk at the other end of the Channel
Tunnel, however, Paris appeared to waiver. Moscow too seemed to hint at
compromise - although on what, exactly, was hardly clear.

The White House was reported to have hastily prepared, then speedily
cancelled, and then denied altogether, as a rumour, a foreign trip by
President George Bush, presumably to London.

Rumour or not, Mr Bush was a no-show at the traditional St Patricks Day
luncheon on Capitol Hill, calling off his waiting motorcade as he continued
frantic telephone diplomacy.

He had earlier met the Irish prime minister, Bertie Ahern. Ireland has
provided landing facilities for US military aircraft for 40 years, but Mr Ahern
is confronting strong anti-war sentiment and Irish citizens have vandalised
US military planes.

He told Bush: If there is not a resolution, Ireland cannot engage in
support of military action, because we work under the UN resolution.

There was little semblance of calm; high on the call list were Mr Blair and
the supportive Bulgarian prime minister, Simone Saxcoburggotski.

The Bush administration said it was prepared to allow debate on any
second resolution to run into early next week, having said all this week it
would not.

Officials said privately the White House was chiefly interested in granting
Tony Blair breathing space to try and ease his political problems at home.

What youre seeing is the president going the last mile on behalf of
diplomacy, said the White House spokesman, Mr Fleischer. There is an
end to that road, and the end is coming into sight.

The countdown to war, however, was if anything speeding up, with a
sense that hostilities could start almost at once, barring the need to
remove aid workers and, most of all, UN inspectors, from Iraq to safety.

For days, Mr Bush had publicly promise to bring to the matter to a head in
the UN Security Council, win or lose, in a test of who was really prepared
to defy the US.

But a loss would see his country launching a war, for the first time in post-
war history, to which neither the UN nor any other significant
international group had given its backing.

We are still talking to members of the council to see what is possible, Mr
Powell later told a congressional subcommittee. He said the options on the
table included to go for a vote and not to go for a vote.

Mr Blairs efforts to find a third way between the US and the axis of
weasels of France, Russia and Germany formed the basis for discussion
yesterday.

Britains UN ambassador, Britains working draft for a second resolution
had required Saddam to admit on Iraqi national media that he had a
concealed arsenal, and had made a strategic decision to surrender it.

It demanded new laws that made it a crime to manufacture weapons of
mass destruction, or fail to co-operate with UN officials, and that he send
Iraqi scientists out of the country for interviews, among other measures.

But France and Germany said they considered the British proposal to be
essentially the same as the first, US-backed resolution. The French foreign
minister, Dominique de Villepin, told French television: We cannot accept
the British proposals insofar as they are part of a logic of war, a logic of
automatic recourse to war.

It was not a matter of giving a few more days, he added in a statement,
and the British proposals do not respond to the questions the
international community is asking.

Mr Straw

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Perle Attacks Chirac as Pro-Saddam
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The Bush administration has resorted to name calling in its attempt to sway
international opinion on its desire to invade Iraq. US defense advisor and
the sharpest billed hawk Richard Perle said in a radio interview yesterday
that France has aligned itself with Saddam. He failed to note that it was
the US not France that had embraced Saddam as an international partner
in 1980s in his war against Iran.

Perle is head of the US Defense Department Policy Review Board, which
has an influential advisory function but no official role in formulation of
U.S. government policy.

[French] President [Jacques] Chirac has said Saddam Hussein was his
friend -- a friend, one of the most brutal dictators in this world? said
Perle. We never called him a friend.

He was referring to the early 1980s when France, the United States and
the rest of the Western allies backed Iraq in a war with neighbor Iran.

The latter assertion is patently false as recently declassified State
Department documents show. In his December 1983 meetings with Tariq
Aziz US envoy Donald Rumsfeld made many statements supporting Iraq in its
war with Iran and promised US diplomatic assistance in the international
community. Rumsfeld, furthermore, told Aziz that relations between our
countries are important there are more similarities than differences.

So Perle has sacrificed US integrity to support his ad hominem assault on
Chirac. The French position has not been pro-Saddam but has been, as
clarified yesterday by Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin. It is not a
question of giving Iraq a few more days before resorting to force, but to
go forward resolutely along the path of peaceful disarmament laid down by
the inspections which are a credible alternative to war, he said in
response to the British call for a new UN resolutions leading to war.

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[CTRL] Free Speech Applies to Foreigners, Not to Canadians

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Canada: Concordia University witch-hunts anti-Zionist protesters

By Guy Charron
14 March 2003

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Egged on by the corporate media, the administration of Montreals
Concordia University is witch-hunting leaders of a protest against former
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Ten students have been charged under the universitys Code of Rights and
Responsibilities with various offences arising out of a demonstration last
September that forced the cancellation of a pro-Israel rally at which
Netanyahu was the featured speaker. The offences include participating in
a riot and harassment.

Thus far one studentAmer Elatrash, a vice-president of the Solidarity for
Palestinian Human Rights grouphas been effectively expelled. (He was
given a three-year suspension.) Yves Engler, an official of the Concordia
Student Union (CSU), has been suspended for one semester for his role in
the demonstration and fined $500 for having affixed stickers to university
property during an anti-globalization protest.

Another of the accused, Leila Mouammar, recently explained to an Islamic
community newspaper how the administration is trying to frame the
protesters as violent. Im charged with Harassing, Threatening 
Intimidating Conduct. They cant point to one specific harassing or violent
thing I didbecause I didnt. So theyre saying that violence happened, I
can be placed at the eventswhich I wastherefore Im guilty.

On September 9, 2002, more than 1,000 students and their supporters
joined a protest organized by the CSU and various pro-Palestinian groups
that was aimed at preventing Netanyahu from speaking at the university.
The protesters asserted that a war criminal has no place on campus.
They also objected to the administrations collusion with conference
organizers to ensure that only pro-Zionists attended what was billed as a
public event. The entire first floor of the universitys main building was
given over to Netanyahus conference and only those who had previously
been given tickets by conference organizers were permitted entry by
university personnel.

After the protesters penetrated a security cordon and entered the first
floor area, police ran amuck, attacking them with batons and pepper
spray. Caught up in the melee were many students and instructors who
were vacating the building at the end of their classes.

Canadas political establishment was unanimous in deploring the disruption
of Netanyahus speech. Prime Minister Jean Chrtien apologized at a
meeting with Netanyahu the next day. And the corporate media was quick
to label the anti-Netanyahu protest a grave attack on the right of free
speech. Leading the pack was the countrys biggest media empire,
CanWest Global, which had helped finance Netanyahus Canadian speaking
tour and was thus involved in the choice of Concordia as the site for his
only public address in Montreal.

To claim that the Concordia demonstration threatened free speech is to
turn reality on its head. Netanyahus visit was a provocation, something
like staging an Orange parade in a Catholic district of Northern Ireland. He
was brought to Concordiaa campus with a large Arab student population
and a reputation for anti-establishment student activismto strut the
Zionist flag and show that the defenders of Israels subjugation of the
Palestinians have powerful political support, if not at Concordia, then at
least off-campus. The organizers of Netanyahus visit rejected a university
request that they hold their rally elsewhere on the campus, insisting that
only the most public, i.e., provocative, venue would do.

It is ridiculous to pretend that Netanyahu had any need of a platform at
Concordia to make his reactionary views knownand not just because he
has access to the pages and airwaves of Canwest and other sections of the
corporate media. After completing his Canadian tour, Natenyahu flew to
Washington where he addressed US legislators and met with top-level
officials in the Bush administration.

Netanyahus North American tour had a double purpose: to rally support
for the Zionist states ever-widening campaign of repression against the
Palestinians and help lay the basis for his own ultimately unsuccessful
attempt to wrest the Likud leadership from Ariel Sharon. Much to Sharons
annoyance, in the spring of 2002, Netanyahu won Likuds support for a
resolution committing it to never allow the establishment of a Palestinian
state, no matter how small and devoid of genuine sovereignty. Then in the
autumn he tried to unseat Sharon by portraying the current Israeli Prime
Minister as too conciliatory with the Palestinians because he has not yet
ordered the complete dismantling of the Palestinian Authority.

The significance of the witch-hunt mounted by the Concordia
administration goes

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First and last war of the Bush Doctrine?
Posted: March 12, 2003

1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Patrick J. Buchanan

 2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

As that latter-day Wilsonian Bill Clinton launched his war on a Serbia that
did not attack us, George W.


Bush intends to launch a war on an Iraq that has never threatened or
attacked the United States.

Clinton bombed Serbia for 78 days for refusing his ultimatum to surrender
Kosovo, cradle of that nation. But Bush is invading Iraq to validate a new
doctrine he declared to the world a year ago, as his predecessor James
Monroe declared the doctrine that bears his name.

Under the Monroe Doctrine of 1823, all European colonization of the
Western Hemisphere was to end. But the Bush Doctrine is not confined to
a hemisphere. It is universal. Its heart may be found in a single sentence in
the 2002 State of the Union: The United States of America will not permit
the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most
destructive weapons.

Inherent in the Bush Doctrine is pre-emption. America claims an inherent
right to initiate preventive wars on nations that do not threaten us or
attack us, but may threaten or attack us someday in the future.

In June at West Point, Bush declared U.S. Cold War policy to be dead.
Containment is not possible when unbalanced dictators with weapons of
mass destruction can deliver those weapons on missiles or secretly provide
them to terrorist allies. ... If we wait for threats to fully materialize, we will
have waited too long.

We must take this battle to the enemy, disrupt his plans and confront the
worst threats before they emerge. Thus, in 10 days, America launches her
first pre-emptive war.

We are at the Rubicon, and Caesarism has led us here. But an even higher
cause beckons us. In George W. Bush's mind, we are now at Armageddon,
fighting for the Lord. We are in a conflict between good and evil, and
America will call evil by its name, the president thundered to the cadets
at West Point.

As the Iraqis are defenseless against us, they will be crushed  and the
Bush Doctrine validated in the eyes of its evangelists.

Yet, if one looks to northeast Asia, another scene is being played out. The
Bush Doctrine is being daily exposed as bluster and bluff. Since last fall,
when Kim Jong Il brazenly conceded he was operating a secret program to
enrich uranium for atom bombs, U.S. policy has seemed stumbling and
incoherent.

North Korea has been acting, the United States reacting. After we cut off
fuel, Pyongyang kicked U.N. inspectors out, re-fired its plutonium reactor,
restarted a processing plant to extract fuel for atom bombs, sent fighters
into the DMZ and fired a missile into the Sea of Japan the day South
Korea's new president was sworn in.

Pyongyang then sent MiGs 150 miles offshore to force down a U.S. RC-135
in North Korea. Like the USS Pueblo in 1968, the plane was to be stripped
of its secret instruments and codes, and the U.S. crew taken hostage and
paraded to humiliate America. Now, North Korea has fired a second missile
into the Sea of Japan.

What has been the administration's response to Kim's defiance of a
doctrine that was to be the cornerstone of U.S. foreign policy? Thus far, it
has been conciliation and appeasement. We have politely told the North
we are ready for talks, for a renewal of aid, for diplomatic recognition, for
a public declaration that we will not attack. Secretary Rumsfeld last week
held out the prospect of a total withdrawal of U.S. troops from the Korean
peninsula.

No one is declaiming about good and evil. No one is clamoring for a pre-
emptive strike on the Yongbyon reactor  or to decapitate Kim's regime.
Instead, reports are circulating here that the United States has recognized
the reality that North Korea will soon join America, Russia, Britain, France,
China, Israel, India and Pakistan as ninth member of the Nuclear Club. If we
do, the Bush Doctrine will be dead in Asia, even as Marines are fighting to
validate it in Iraq.

Let it be said: America has an inherent right to strike first to prevent
imminent attack. Had we sighted that Japanese task force north of Hawaii,
before Pearl Harbor, we would have been within our rights to attack it.
But to declare a new U.S. strategic doctrine that mandates pre-emptive
wars on any rival powers that seek to acquire weapons we already have
was an act of hubris.

One day soon, some nation  Iran, North Korea  will defy the Bush
Doctrine and test an atomic weapon. When that day comes, the United
States will have to go to war or jettison this doctrine and restore the
foreign policy most consistent with our history, ideals and national
interest: peace through strength, and non-intervention in the affairs of
nations that do not threaten or

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Move underway to impeach Bush

Conyers, anti-war activists charge 'high crimes and misdemeanors'



Posted: March 13, 2003

5:00 p.m. Eastern

By Sherrie Gossett



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Formal efforts are now underway to impeach President Bush over
allegations that a pre-emptive strike


against Iraq constitutes high crimes and misdemeanors, Roll Call, the
newspaper of Capitol Hill, reported today.

A meeting Tuesday reportedly assembled more than two dozen prominent
liberal attorneys and legal scholars who mulled over articles of
impeachment drafted against President Bush by activists. The two- hour
session was said to feature former attorney general-turned-activist Ramsey
Clark and took place in the downtown office of a prominent Washington
tort lawyer.

Participants said Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., who hosted the meeting,
was the only member of Congress to attend.

We had a pretty frank discussion about putting in a bill of impeachment
against President Bush, said Francis Boyle, an Illinois law professor who
has been working on the impeachment language with Clark.

In November of 2002, WND reported that former U.S. Attorney General
Ramsey Clark had been retained by Iraq to represent that regime's legal
interests.

Clark first called for impeachment publicly at anti-war demonstrations in
Washington, D.C., and later in San Francisco. He subsequently created the
Vote To Impeach website, which warns, Each of us must take a stand on
impeachment now, or bear the burden of having failed to speak in this
hour of maximum peril.


Ramsey Clark donning judicial robe to defend Rwadan Pastor Elizaphan
Ntakirutimana against charges of genocide.
On Jan. 18, WND was the only news organization to report that the
groundwork was being laid to impeach the president. At that time, WND
reported on statements made by Clark, former U.N. weapons inspector
Scott Ritter and lawyer-activists Mara Verheyden-Hilliard and Carl
Messineo.

Verheyden-Hilliard, who was the M.C. at the Washington, D.C., anti-war
protest last year, and Messineo were the first to post legal arguments on
the Internet, accusing Bush of high crimes and misdemeanors.

That was followed by the release of a book by the two lawyers, Empire at
home: George W. Bush and John Ashcroft v. the Bill of Rights, accusing
the administration of a deliberate and systematic erosion of civil rights.

At that time, the author told WND that many were raising questions about
impeachment of Bush and said, many more are seriously evaluating it and
discussing what mechanisms are appropriate to it.

We need to fight by being in the streets, Verheyden-Hilliard said, by
educating our neighbors, and taking appropriate legal action. We can't sit
back and wait for government to do the right thing.

In addition, in a previous interview with WorldNetDaily, Scott Ritter, former
U.N. weapons inspector, said the following:

I would be in favor of the impeachment of President Bush for high crimes
and misdemeanors. Murder is a high crime and misdemeanor, and I can't
think of any better definition than murder when he talks about American
service members and putting them in a war which is not only illegal but is
based on a foundation of lies.

He added, What I would find to be grounds of impeachment is the
president lying to the American people. I believe the president has lied to
the American people. I believe the vice president has lied to the American
people. And if we go to war where American service members are killed, I
think the president should be held accountable for this judicially.

The day after the WND report, details of a former arrest for allegedly
soliciting an underage girl, although under seal, were leaked to the press.
Ritter supporters called it a political hit, while detractors called it proof of
his duplicitous and untrustworthy character.

Anti-war activists recently have been emboldened by what some held were
an embarrassing series of revelations that some documents and claims
referred to by politicians as supporting the war were not what they first
were made out to be. These included the following:

Almost half of the most recent Blair intelligence report was revealed to
have significant portions plagiarized from a university student's work.
Recent revelations of the text of the 1995 initial de-briefing of defector
Hussein Kamal revealed he claimed that all weapons of mass destruction
had been destroyed, and no nuclear program was underway. In addition he
claimed Saddam's Bombmaker, Dr. Khidir Hamza, was a professional liar
who was so useless he was allowed to defect.
Iraqi workers displayed a controversial drone to the public. Labeled a
threat and a smoking gun by Secretary of State Colin Powell, The
Washington Post reported the drone was held

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Thursday, Mar. 13, 2003

Naysayers may pay price, U.S. hints


By PAUL KORING
From Thursday's Globe and Mail
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Washington  With a showdown looming at the UN Security Council, U.S.
officials are warning darkly of consequences for those countries that
oppose the world's sole remaining superpower.

The Bush administration spent much of Wednesday wooing the 10 elected
Security Council members, particularly Chile, Cameroon, Pakistan and
Guinea. But it took a far tougher line with the veto-wielding permanent
members  France and Russia.

There will be damage, the U.S. ambassador to Moscow, Alexander
Vershbow, said Wednesday in a blunt warning to Russia, which has
threatened to use its veto. He reeled off a list of joint Russo- American
efforts, including space, security and energy co-operation, that could
suffer setbacks if Russian President Vladimir Putin blocks any resolution
authorizing a U.S.-led war against Iraq.

The White House sent out a more cryptic message, saying U.S. President
George W. Bush will be disappointed in those countries that block his
plans.

A senior State Department official also castigated France, accusing
President Jacques Chirac of thwarting efforts to disarm Iraq by declaring
France would veto a war resolution no matter what. Frankly, saying that
he'll veto the resolution 'no matter what' sends precisely the wrong signal
to Baghdad, precisely the wrong signal for those who want peaceful
disarmament, Richard Boucher said.

Administration officials have made several veiled threats in recent days,
including the closing of U.S. bases in Germany and the blocking of free-
trade talks with Chile. They also have offered more aid and military support
to council members Angola, Cameroon, Guinea, Pakistan and Mexico.

But Mr. Bush stayed out of the public eye, leaving it to his officials to
answer questions about the UN debate. It was the fourth day in a row that
Mr. Bush did not make a public appearance, instead working the phones
from the Oval Office.

The less said publicly the better during negotiations, White House
spokesman Ari Fleischer said.

The White House continued to stress Wednesday it could be counting
hands during a Security Council vote to determine whether the United
Nations Security Council will have a role as a relevant and effective body,
Mr. Fleischer said.

There's no question that the President will be disappointed in those
nations that vote otherwise. There's no question about it, he said, adding
to the speculation that the United States would seek to find ways to
punish countries that vote against its resolution.

I think that the American people reach their own conclusions. The
American people think about these things. The representatives of Congress
think about these things.

President Bush spent much of the day telephoning other leaders whose
countries have seats on the 15-member council. Officials in Washington
hinted they were close to achieving the nine votes needed for a
resolution to pass, although it appeared France was still willing to veto
such a result.

Among Security Council members, only Britain, Bulgaria and Spain have
publicly backed the U.S. position.

Mr. Bush also courted leaders from the United Arab Emirates and the
Philippines, hoping to add more nations to the list of countries not in the
Security Council that support the American drive to oust Iraqi President
Saddam Hussein.

We're making progress, but I don't want to mislead you into thinking that
we've got it in the bag, Mr. Boucher said.

One call Mr. Bush did not make was to Mr. Chirac. To state the obvious,
President Chirac is working the phones in the opposite direction, Mr.
Fleischer said.

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Tue 11 Mar 2003
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Oscars blacklist stars in bid to prevent peace protest speeches

ANNETTE WITHERIDGE IN NEW YORK

THE backlash against prominent stars opposing any attack on Iraq has

impacted on this years Oscars, with organisers drawing up a blacklist of
people who will not be allowed a platform to air anti-war views.

Meryl Streep, Sean Penn, Vanessa Redgrave, George Clooney, Dustin
Hoffman and Spike Lee are among those who will not be speaking, amid
fears they could turn the ceremony into an anti-war rally.

In a move denounced by some as a return to McCarthyism, star presenters
have been ordered to stick to scripts, while winners, who the producers
have no control over, could find their acceptance speeches cut if they
say anything much more than a brief thank you.

Officially, executives say that politics is a turn-off for the shows television
audience. But in the wake of a public backlash against actors such as
Martin Sheen, from the West Wing, who have voiced opposition to war,
producers do not want to upset advertisers who have paid more than 50
million for adverts. In previous years, high-profile presenters have grabbed
the spotlight to promote their political causes. Richard Gere urged China
to end its occupation of Tibet and Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins
appealed for HIV-positive Haitians to be allowed into the United States.

Sarandon and Robbins are also among those on this years unofficial
blacklist, along with Ed Norton and Dennis Hopper. The only anti-war
campaigner on the presenters list so far is Salma Hayek, the star of Frida
and a best actress nominee.

Gil Cates, one of the ceremonys producers, wants the ceremony, which
takes place on 23 March, to celebrate the Oscars 75th anniversary rather
than the anti-Bush/Blair movement. And he admitted he thought it
inappropriate for stars to use their slots to spotlight world problems.

But Tom ONeil, an Oscar historian, said: Political tantrums are inevitable.
Youre dealing with a class of people who have unchecked egos and who
are invited on talk shows to be experts on everything from high art to pop
culture.

Top of the loose-cannon list this year is the Bowling for Columbine
director, Michael Moore, a favourite to win the documentary feature
award.

Last month, Moore thanked the French for not supporting the proposed
Iraqi invasion while accepting an award in Paris. And on Saturday, he used
the Writers Guild of America awards in Los Angeles to voice his opinions of
George Bush, the US president.

Worryingly, for the Oscar producers, Moore won loud applause after
telling the audience: What I see is a country that does not like whats
going on. Lets all commit ourselves to Bush removal in 2004.

If Moore does not win an Oscar, insiders claim Hollywood will be reverting
back to the witch-hunting 1950s, when Senator Joseph McCarthy and his
cohorts destroyed the careers of supposed Communist sympathies. The
Red scare stories saw off Charlie Chaplin, who left Hollywood for
Switzerland, and a host of other high-profile celebrities.

McCarthy-supporting actors included the former US president, Ronald
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  UN News Centre
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  UN - Office of the Iraq Programme
  http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/

  US Dept of State - Iraq Update
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  Iraqi Presidency
  http://www.uruklink.net/iraq/

  Iraq Watch
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http://www.takebackthemedia.com/weinercult.html
HIS MASTER'S VOICE:

MSNBC [While Selling Savage] Unwittingly Promoting Dangerous Religious
Cult Involved in Exorcisms, Brainwashing, Right-Wing Agenda and
Apocalypse.

In their press about their new Michael Savage TV show, MSNBC proudly
tells you his radio show airs nationally on the Talk Radio Network.

Yet, MSNBC, an investigative and news gathering organization, WAS NOT
SAVVY ENOUGH to research the Talk Radio Network and find out that it
was owned and operated by a dangerous religious cult in Southern
Oregon, which is using Savage as a mouthpiece for their agenda.

Michael Savage's radio show was given a national platform by Talk Radio
Network based in Southern Oregon. Talk Radio Network
www.talkradionetwork.com was OWNED and OPERATED by cult leader Roy
Masters, his family and their Foundation of Human Understanding
www.fhu.com

Roy Masters has spent over 40 years daily spewing hate against Women,
Gays, the Government and Liberals on radio stations on which he has
purchased time (KRLA in Los Angeles for example) and through his Talk
Radio Network. He spent the late 70's, complete 80's and most of the 90's
talking about the Apocalypse that was forthcoming in America--and that
the only safe place to be was with him--in Grants Pass, Oregon.

He spent thousands of hours in 1999 talking about the end of America as
we know it because of the Y2K plot. This included an appearance on Fox
News in which he warned of the upcoming takeover by the government
which would use Y2K as an excuse to take away all American's liberties.
(Close pal, it was the twin towers instead. Even nuts get close sometimes.)

For many years, Roy Masters and his family published an extreme right-wing
magazine called 'New Dimensions' which Masters blames the liberal media
for destroying.

Where do you think Michael Savage got his act from? Savage is a dedicated
follower of Roy Masters, a CULT LEADER.

In the late 70's, 80's and 90's, Roy Masters told listeners that the world
would be ending soon and they must come to Grants Pass, Oregon...the
only place safe from nuclear fallout.

INFORMATION FROM WATCHMAN.ORG - A CULT REPORTING ORGANIZATION

-Like the Baghwan Rajneesh, Masters has been the center of
controversy with the law and with his neighbors. Salvation and successful
living in the FHU is obtained through new age meditation, tuning in to the
direction from your own intuition which he calls Reality consciousness,
the Light, and Truth within (Introduction to Meditation, FHU, 1981, p.
3).

Masters typical approach at his gatherings is to engage in
hypnosis/meditation exercises with his followers who he jokingly calls
Roybots. He then performs exorcisms by touching people on the
forehead with a wooden cross.

He normally castigates, insults, and ridicules his listeners in a domineering
controlling manner. Masters says I could get people to die for me any day.
I've got more power over people than Adolph Hitler and Jim Jones
combined, because I'm smarter. I know how to push people's buttons (Los
Angeles Times, 12/3/78).-
http://www.watchman.org/cults/newdimen.htm

The American Medical Association pressed charges against him for
practicing medicine without a license. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail.
He likens this persecution to the persecution Jesus suffered. He is a self-
described Christian mystic combining Eastern mysticism and Gnosticism
with Christian jargon, yoga, hypnotism and self-help principles.

Though he claims to have been saved by the blood of Christ, he states that
one of the biggest curses in Christendom is the false idea that Jesus is
God. According to the late Dr. Walter Martin, the Foundation does not
mention the Holy Spirit in any of its publications (The New Cults, p. 310).

During the meditative process, subjects are taught to surrender all
disbelief and to relinquish control to Masters. 
http://www.watchman.org/cults/roymstrs.htm

Roy Masters-linked New Dimensions Magazine Draws Fire

A conservative news magazine is under fire across the U.S. due to its links
with controversial
religious leader Roy Masters.

The monthly magazine, New Dimensions, is also increasingly finding its way
into the hands of politically conservative evangelical Christians, as its
publishers have been giving away free ads to conservative groups,
according to the January 1991 Cult Awareness Network News. In an
apparent push to thrust the magazine into the mainstream, thousands of
free copies are being regularly passed out, with many evangelical pastors
receiving them.

What many dont yet know is that the magazine is loaded with
advertisements and propaganda for Masterss Foundation of Human
Understanding, which has long been considered a pseudo- Christian sect
by experts, including the Christian Research Institute (CRI).

Walter Martins The New Cults, published in 1980 in collaboration with the
CRI research staff, concludes: The basic doctrines and many of the

[CTRL] Bush Gang's Provocateur Agenda to Collapse Economy

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Bush Gang Destroying Economy
March 12, 2003

Hello Dear Friends and White Knights,

As the Bush gang continue to try to beat the war drums, our US and world economic
problems take a back seat to the ballyhooing about war. What we see from Bush Jr. is
zero interest in improving the economy for the average people; he only cares about 
giving
tax cuts to people who make over ONE MILLION dollars a year.

The reason the Bush gang are ignoring our economy is because the Bush gang are 
purposely
destroying the American economy as a way to dis-empower Americans who might wish to
oppose plans the Bush gang are trying to pursue.

NESARA will create massive upturns in our country and the world which will quickly help
many people.

Its important to see why our economy has gone down since Bush Jr. arrived in D.C. The
Bush gang take Nazi Germany as their blueprint and if you do a web search on the
connections between the Bush family and the Nazi regime, you will find there were 
strong
ties. In Nazi Germany, Hitler rose to power partly because of the terrible economic
conditions which required Germans (so the story goes) to carry their worthless money in
wheelbarrows in order to carry enough money to buy a loaf of bread.

When the majority of a nations population has trouble obtaining the basic requirements 
of
life, such as food, these people must use all their attention and energy to survive.
Starving people have little energy left to fight corrupt governments. People without
jobs have few resources to take action to correct perilous government actions. People
who feel their economic and personal security are at risk are unlikely to protest 
against
government tyranny. The Bush gang know all these things; they are counting on economic
and psychological stress to cause Americans to feel off balance and powerless.

Over the years I have read quotes by various members of the Bush gang which make it
obvious that the Bush gang are following a plan to destroy the economy of the U.S. and
destroy the assets of Americans. I recall reading on a website the quote by a man who 
is
a member of the Bush gang and who stated that a major part of the plan to subjugate
Americans was to take away their homes through foreclosures. He said that by 
foreclosing
on their homes and taking away their ability to own their homes, Americans would become
more malleable to what the government wanted. (If anyone has a copy of this quote, I
hope you will send it to me as it was chillingly obvious there is a plan to promote 
home
foreclosures as part of subjugating Americans.) In the last few years, there have been
record numbers of home foreclosures.

There are also members of the Rockefeller-Bush gang who are purposely manipulating the
stock market into downturns. These people manage large stock portfolios for
corporations, foundations, and banks. They have put together a plan to try to crash the
stock market as part of the overall plan to bring down the American economy. Below is a
quote about one of the think-tanks which worked on how to manipulate the U.S. economy.
We are naïve if we think there are not people who have caused stock market crashes and
are trying to do so now.

The FACT that our economy very quickly began a downward spiral as soon as the Bush gang
took over D.C. is not an accident. Just in case youve forgotten that we had serious
problems with the economy BEFORE 9/11, Ive included an article on the subject which is
dated FOUR DAYS BEFORE 9/11. The news was full of criticism about Bushs damage to the
economy BEFORE 9/11 occurred.

Now we find the Bush gang once again taking action that would cause damage to the
economy. Bush's so-called tax cut for the rich is a renamed Reagan trickle-down
economics scam. Reagan ruined our economy with the help of his Vice President Bush Sr.
who really ran the country behind the scenes. The Reagan-Bush trickle-down economics 
did
NOT bring more jobs or benefit the economy. The Bush gang is well aware that their tax
plans would cause more harm to our economy while giving more wealth to those who 
already
make more than one million dollars per year!

Let us remember a few of the many things the Bush gang have done to harm our economy.
Bush Jr. helped the energy corporations to reap huge profits from California and other
western states right after Bush arrived in D.C. Bush and Cheney were close buddies with
the heads of Enron and helped to milk the assets of Enron before it publicly went 
broke.
Now we have gasoline prices edging toward $2 a gallon in some places and there is NO
REASON for this.

The last time we had

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