[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990828a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Not much of anything happened, not even any production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ : Oops, other things took precedence. More tomorrow. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Followers of obsolete unthinkable trades, doodling in Etruscan, addicts of drugs not yet synthesized, black marketeers of World War III, excisors of telepathic sensitivity, osteopaths of the spirit, investigators of infractions denounced by bland paranoid chess players, servers of frag- mentary warrants taken down in hebephrenic shorthand charging unspeakable mutilations of the spirit, officials of unconstituted police states, brokers of exquisite dreams and nostalgias tested on the sensitized cells of junk sickness and bartered for raw materials of the will, drinkers of the Heavy Fluid sealed in translucent amber of dreams." --William Burroughs * http://skepticon.da.ru * ICQ# 19633976 * FAX: 603-415-3736 * * email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * (sorry, I can't answer all email - but thanks for your feedback) * SkeptiChat/News archives: http://www.sonic.net/~ric/sc/files.htm * Fringe * Science * Faith * Sex/Drugs * UFO/PSI/Y2K * Conspiracy * DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990829a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No ancient monuments were sabotaged during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sabotage Feared At Popular Tourist Site. CUSCO, Peru (Reuters) Peru has suspended train services to the ancient Inca mountain citadel Machu Picchu until at least Sunday due to fears striking rail workers may have sabotag- ed the line. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990827/10/odd-peru-tourists : What cultural/sacred/alien sites would you like to sabotage? Does your be- lief system promote sabotage? Are you driven by economics, politics, faith, treachery, reason, mind-control rays, alien implants, me? Are tourists icky? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Roundups Planned. At least 50,000 U.S. citizens are to be rounded up and taken to concentration camps by the U.S. govt. in collusion with foreign govts and bodies. This may take place sometime after or during September 9th through 13th, 1999. http://users.sedona.net/~redstone/text.htm : Are you due to be rounded-up? Have you packed yet? Will you be doing the rounding-up? Will you be eliminated later? Will anyone miss you? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Dino steps in cliff fall. (BBC) Fossil footprints from what may be a prev- iously unknown species of dinosaur have been discovered in Yorkshire, UK. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_431000/431712.stm @ Links: Dinorama: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/dinorama/ @ Dinosauria: http://wired.uvm.edu/~omegared/Dinosauria.html/Main.Menu.html : Who's your favorite dinosaur? Are you a dinosaur? Are you unknown? Why? Do you have a publicist yet? Have you been on TV? Do you leave tracks? Where?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ABO HEADS DEMAND COMPENSATION OF 'STOLEN GENERATIONS'. Aboriginal leaders in Australia demanded the government to follow up its expression of regret for its past treatment of Australia's indigenous people with cash compen- sation. http://cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9908/29/australia.aborigines.ap/ : Were your ancestors, parents, siblings taken by gov't? Would you rather be abducted by govt agents, private slavers, holy zealots, aliens, robots, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The First American? (BBC) A 12,000-year-old skull suggests the first Amer- ican settlers came from Australia. Throw another bunny on the barby, mate: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_43/430944.stm @ Link - Early humans in North America: http://www.cis.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1980/2/80.02.07.x.html : Are you human? Are you early? Are you Australian? Where/when is the first Foster's brewery? Was a Foster's can found near the skull? Is that proof? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce Biblical Prophecies Fulfilled. "Prophecies have come true in metaphorical events encompassing the resurrection of a King, the return of Ra-Ta the priest and the uncovering of the Hall of Records. = background informationhttp://testament.org/testament/pguild.html = photo of burned busheshttp://testament.org/testament/c38.html = photo of Egyptian pendant http://testament.org/testament/c27.html = photo of a spirit http://testament.org/testament/c16.html = photo of "aliens" http://testament.org/testament/c19.html = photo of a "bigfoot" http://testament.org/testament/c50.html : Have your favorite prophesies been fulfilled yet? Which ones? How many end-of-time prophesies haven't been fulfilled yet? Will they ever? When?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Bride burning 'kills hundreds'. (BBC) Three-hundred Pakistani women are burned to death each year because their husbands no longer want them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_431000/431607.stm @ Link - UN Development Fund for Women: http://www.unifem.undp.org/ # And: Pakistan to probe rights abuses: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_426000/426115.stm # Pakistan fails to condemn 'honour' killings http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_41/410422.stm : Have you burned a bride lately? If you're tired of her, why not give her away or sell her instead of wasting her? Should she burn you instead? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Plot-O-Rama: # NEW WACO PROBE COULD DELAY LAWSUIT AGAINST GOVERNMENT. A new federal probe into the Waco incident, ordered by U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, could delay a lawsuit filed against the gov't by surviving Branch Davidians and families of those killed. http://cnn.com/US/9908/27/waco.fbi/index.html # Waco admission damages Reno. (BBC) US Attorney-General Janet Reno says her credibility has been harmed by an FBI admission over the fatal fire in 1993 at a besieged cult headquarters in Waco, Texas. Kicking butt:
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990829b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No ancient hedge mazes were harmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Spy 'betrayed' stealth fighter. A spy may have leaked the flight plan of a US stealth fighter shot down by Yugoslav forces during the Kosovo war. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_431000/431408.stm : Have you betrayed any military operations lately? Who are you working for? Have you betrayed humanity to any aliens/demons/deities lately? Which ones? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Marooned In A Maze? Use Your Cellphone. LONDON (Reuters) People lost in an old English hedge maze have found a new way out: calling for help on their mobile phones. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990828/20/odd-britain-maze : Do you call out for help when you're lost in mazes, malls, ancient tombs, UFOs, the Pentagon/Kremlin/Langley/Microsoft? Have you been rescued yet?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Afrikaner brotherhood embraces new SA. (BBC) A secretive white nationalist group which played a key role in implementing South Africa's former apart- heid policies says it wants to co-operate with the new government. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_431000/431409.stm : Can your terrorist group reach an accommodation with authorities? Do you really want to subvert from within? Are bullets cheaper than ballots? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Diving Into the Inky Depths - Search for Drugs Leads Nearly 1,800 Feet Down. (ABC) Researchers are turning more and more to the ocean's depths in search of new drugs. "We just can't grow enough coca and opium" - see http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/exped_flkeys990827pt4.html @ Links - @Sea: http://www.at-sea.org/ @ Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institution: http://www.hboi.edu/ : How far down would you go for drugs? Do you smoke frog sweat? Do you eat raw fish? Do you suck out squid brains? Do aliens suck out your brains? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sabbath row settled. (BBC) Israel's secular religious pols compromise in a row over the transportation of a huge electrical turbine on the Sabbath. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_431000/431529.stm # Burger boycott bites in Bank. (BBC) Burger King avoids a worldwide boycott by closing a controversial outlet in the Israeli occupied West Bank. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_431000/431308.stm : What's your favorite religious/political confrontation? Are doctrinaire fights caused by subtle mental reprogramming caused by crop circles? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Great Wired North. (ABC) Canada has fashioned a ultra-fast fiber-optic Internet-style computer network. Trouble is, nobody knows what to do with it. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/CuttingEdge/canadanet990827.html # And Satellite phones haven't caught on. Yet. If ever. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/satellitephones990827.html : What's your favorite mode of comunication? Is telepathy the ultimate wire- less technology? Would you like to be wired into a broadband circuit? When? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Suicide prompts Vatican security fears. (BBC) Security at the Vatican is under the spotlight after a pensioner shoots himself near the high altar in St Peter's Basilica - the latest in a series of suicides there. Yow. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_431000/431723.stm # 'Advanced' bomb targeted Taleban leader. Afghanistan's Taleban group says a bomb aimed at its supreme leader contained sophisticated components. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_431000/431425.stm : Would you rather kill or be killed for doctrinaire reasons? D'ya wanna do suicide/homicide at the Vatican, Kremlin, Pentagon, White House, Downing St, Disney World, Roswell, Golden Gate Bridge, Kabul? Who do you want to bomb?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ UFO CoverUp: http://inetport.com/~one/mlufocvr.html @ Real Or Hoax? http://www.angelfire.com/yt/CropCircle/ @ World Of The Strange: http://www.jb-graphics.com/thestrange/ @ All Paranormal, All The Time: http://www.paranormalnews.com/ @ Lord Weÿrdgliffe: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/index.html @ Necronomicon Page: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/necpage.htm @ Earth Shall Inherit The Meek: http://ornl.gov/hgmis/project/progress.html @ The 20th Century: http://abcnews.go.com/century/ # SHOOTING RAMPAGES IN U.S. SPARK GUN-CONTROL DEBATE IN BRAZIL: http://cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9908/28/brazil.gun.control.ap/ # Scientist Says Racism Plays Role In AIDS Death Rate: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990829/00/news-aids-racism # HIV CAN'T BE SWEPT FROM BODY: http://cnn.com/HEALTH/9908/28/aids.therapy # Neutron bombs in US cities:
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990829c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No ancient hedge mazes were harmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Spy 'betrayed' stealth fighter. A spy may have leaked the flight plan of a US stealth fighter shot down by Yugoslav forces during the Kosovo war. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_431000/431408.stm : Have you betrayed any military operations lately? Who are you working for? Have you betrayed humanity to any aliens/demons/deities lately? Which ones? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Marooned In A Maze? Use Your Cellphone. LONDON (Reuters) People lost in an old English hedge maze have found a new way out: calling for help on their mobile phones. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990828/20/odd-britain-maze : Do you call out for help when you're lost in mazes, malls, ancient tombs, UFOs, the Pentagon/Kremlin/Langley/Microsoft? Have you been rescued yet?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Afrikaner brotherhood embraces new SA. (BBC) A secretive white nationalist group which played a key role in implementing South Africa's former apart- heid policies says it wants to co-operate with the new government. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_431000/431409.stm : Can your terrorist group reach an accommodation with authorities? Do you really want to subvert from within? Are bullets cheaper than ballots? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Diving Into the Inky Depths - Search for Drugs Leads Nearly 1,800 Feet Down. (ABC) Researchers are turning more and more to the ocean's depths in search of new drugs. "We just can't grow enough coca and opium" - see http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/exped_flkeys990827pt4.html @ Links - @Sea: http://www.at-sea.org/ @ Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institution: http://www.hboi.edu/ : How far down would you go for drugs? Do you smoke frog sweat? Do you eat raw fish? Do you suck out squid brains? Do aliens suck out your brains? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sabbath row settled. (BBC) Israel's secular religious pols compromise in a row over the transportation of a huge electrical turbine on the Sabbath. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_431000/431529.stm # Burger boycott bites in Bank. (BBC) Burger King avoids a worldwide boycott by closing a controversial outlet in the Israeli occupied West Bank. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_431000/431308.stm : What's your favorite religious/political confrontation? Are doctrinaire fights caused by subtle mental reprogramming caused by crop circles? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Great Wired North. (ABC) Canada has fashioned a ultra-fast fiber-optic Internet-style computer network. Trouble is, nobody knows what to do with it. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/CuttingEdge/canadanet990827.html # And Satellite phones haven't caught on. Yet. If ever. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/satellitephones990827.html : What's your favorite mode of comunication? Is telepathy the ultimate wire- less technology? Would you like to be wired into a broadband circuit? When? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Suicide prompts Vatican security fears. (BBC) Security at the Vatican is under the spotlight after a pensioner shoots himself near the high altar in St Peter's Basilica - the latest in a series of suicides there. Yow. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_431000/431723.stm # 'Advanced' bomb targeted Taleban leader. Afghanistan's Taleban group says a bomb aimed at its supreme leader contained sophisticated components. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_431000/431425.stm : Would you rather kill or be killed for doctrinaire reasons? D'ya wanna do suicide/homicide at the Vatican, Kremlin, Pentagon, White House, Downing St, Disney World, Roswell, Golden Gate Bridge, Kabul? Who do you want to bomb?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ UFO CoverUp: http://inetport.com/~one/mlufocvr.html @ Real Or Hoax? http://www.angelfire.com/yt/CropCircle/ @ World Of The Strange: http://www.jb-graphics.com/thestrange/ @ All Paranormal, All The Time: http://www.paranormalnews.com/ @ Lord Weÿrdgliffe: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/index.html @ Necronomicon Page: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/necpage.htm @ Earth Shall Inherit The Meek: http://ornl.gov/hgmis/project/progress.html @ The 20th Century: http://abcnews.go.com/century/ # SHOOTING RAMPAGES IN U.S. SPARK GUN-CONTROL DEBATE IN BRAZIL: http://cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9908/28/brazil.gun.control.ap/ # Scientist Says Racism Plays Role In AIDS Death Rate: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990829/00/news-aids-racism # HIV CAN'T BE SWEPT FROM BODY: http://cnn.com/HEALTH/9908/28/aids.therapy # Neutron bombs in US cities:
Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy: Where's the Proof?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conspiracy: Where's the Proof? by William F. Jasper By now it is a tiresomely familiar theme redundantly shrieked by the usual cacophonous chorus: Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, Louis Freeh, the New York Times, the Washington Post, Time magazine, Anthony Lewis, Molly Ivins, Frank Rich, Morris Dees, the Anti-Defamation League, the ACLU, etc. According to the frantic refrains of this querulous choir, those who mention "conspiracy" or oppose the "new world order" and the United Nations share culpability with those terrorists who bombed the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. They are, shrills the choir, "dangerous," "irrational," and "paranoid." Just because tiresome people denounce conspiratorialists, doesn't mean that conspiratorialists aren't insane and/or duped. Those who take a principled, courageous stand for limited, consti- tutional government, who seek change through legitimate, honorable means, and who speak out against the abuses and usurpations of big government, are denounced as "anti-government." "Money is truthful. When a man speaks of his honor, make him pay cash." --Robert A. Heinlein DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Thoughts on Waco: A Remembrance
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kettler Thoughts on Waco: A Remembrance ... If the state acts, it must be governed by a Biblically based judicial process. The process of Biblical justice was completely subverted at Waco. Please bear with my thoughts and emotions. U.S. Constitution, Amendment I: "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion..." A "Biblically based judicial process", a "process of Biblical justice", has no place in U.S. law, the author's "thoughts and emotions" notwithstanding. Prod Xian theocrats who wish to breach the church/state wall of separation would be sorely displeased if a future U.S. with a majority of Roman Catholics, Wiccans or Discordians exploited such a breach. But fundy jeezoids tend to lack the education necessary to understand this, as any demographics study will show. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists say God .....Exists
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scientists Find Evidence of God God, or gods? If one posits the existence of one god, why not accept the existence of multiple gods? Was the universe created by a team? How could we tell? If there's only only one god, did it manipulate the universe to look as though it had been created by a team, or evolved naturally? If there are multiple gods, did they manipulate the universe to look as though it had been created by a single god, or evolved naturally? If one posits the existence of one or more creator deities, then such deities could have manipulated the universe however they wished, for purposes that humans can't comprehend - mustn't an honest investigator disregard ALL evidence pro or con re: god(s), since the evidence COULD be manipulated, tainted? If one invokes god(s) to explain the origin/structure of the universe, what forces/entities must be invoked to explain the origin of the god(s)? Who intelligently designed the intelligent designer(s)? Or did it/they evolve naturally, and if so, where/ when/how? Doesn't any invocation of gods merely push back the question of origins into unexplorable realms? Doesn't saying "one or more gods did it" equate to "I don't know and I'll never be able to find out, so I'll stop looking here" ?? Isn't the invocation of god(s) a dead-end, a capitulation? Evolution has been observed - why invoke god(s)? Abiogenesis has been observed - why invoke god(s)? How complex is/are god(s)? If observations of life and the universe can be explained without invoking god(s), and god(s) is/are more complex than the deduced/ observed forces and phenomena of nature, aren't god(s) the least likely workable explanations? Doesn't Occam's Razor preclude gods? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Judith A. Brundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nobody would want to consume human meats with AIDS in 'em -- RE: "Reptoids Like Human AIDS meats" -- etc. Use your head. Judith Reptoids, not even being mammals, let alone primates, would be no more affected by HIV [HUMAN Immunodeficiency Virus] than humans are affected by most diseases of the creatures and plants we eat. Assuming that AIDS/HIV is engineered, and that Reptoids exist and harvest humans, it's no great stretch to posit that AIDS [and many other human diseases] were engineered by Reptoids for their benefit. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] White House blamed for secret unit at Waco
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I'm not excusing the Clinton Administration, one DOES have to keep in mind that they just took over a situation that was already in place thanks to the Bush Administration... Yup, the same crew that engineered Ruby Ridge previously. The same Reagan/Bush Sr. teams effectively ran DoJ, FBI, CIA, et al, for some months after Clinton took office - and may still run those agencies, if Reno's claim of being kept in the dark is accurate. Has Bush Sr. maintained operative control ever since his stint as DCI? Do these agencies operate on their own, regardless of who occupies the White House? Who engineered 'NannyGate', which ensured that ineffective Reno would be the figurehead at DoJ? What'll be engineered to ensure that Bush Jr. is the next figurehead in the White House? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] White House blamed for secret unit at Waco
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: K [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I'm not excusing the Clinton Administration, one DOES have to keep in mind that they just took over a situation that was already in place thanks to the Bush Administration... Yeah, right. The "situation" of a bunch of "cult members" (defined as a religion without any political power) living together on a farm minding their own business. If their leader was wanted for any crimes, he could have been picked up any day during his daily jog. Sure, Koresh was minding his own business - dealing weapons and fucking little girls. Nice religion. The lessons are: -- If you don't want gov't agencies to take too much interest in your religion, then don't deal weapons and don't take child brides; -- If your religion necessitates that you deal weapons and fuck little girls, and you don't want gov't interference, then you should accumulate sufficient political/economic power to deflect said interference; and/or, move to a remote, sheltered location where surveillance/attack are difficult; and/or, be circumspect - don't let anyone know where you are or what you're doing. -- If you MUST deal weapons AND screw kids AND be visible, be sure your funeral arrangements have been made. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] White House blamed for secret unit at Waco
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sure, Koresh was minding his own business - dealing weapons and fucking little girls. Nice religion. Apparently you subscribe to the Waco Witch's philosophy of "burn them alive to prevent them from being abused". Nope. I think Koresh and his lieutenants did the killing. I'm amazed that so many people choose to support this psychopath; amazed, but not really surprised. I suspect a coordinated disinfo campaign, possibly Chinese-sponsored, directed at all US gov't actions, a classic Leninist strategy to demoralize the US people. This runs in parallel with moves to discredit science, especially evolution, in an effort to destroy US science education and reduce productivity of US workers, China's only hope to gain an advantage in the world economy, now that their own economy is faltering. Is this a stretch? Not at all. The same people who're are Waco conspiratorialists are also anti-evolutionists. The propaganda campaigns are well-coordinated, eh? Think about it. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990827a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No crop circle makers were harmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Video Games Train Kids To Kill Says Military Expert. HAMILTON -- A U.S. psychologist who spent 25 years teaching soldiers how to kill says violent video games are turning a whole generation of young people into killers. In a chilling warning to Canada's police chiefs, retired Lt. Col. Dave Grossman said the games have the same desensitizing effect as military killing simulators, which ingrain soldiers with a homicidal reflex. Then he squashed a wombat. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/vid.htm : Have you been trained to kill? Did your training involve videogames, mind- control rays, animal mutilation, bayonets, lasers, napalm? Is it fun? How?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ On 26.Aug.99 in alt.paranormal.crop-circles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i may have an answere,but need more info/crop phenomenon. go back into the archives of the first photograhpic images recorded of the formations, and assemble them all from all over the world in chronological order to present making sure to use only the dated images that are consid- ered unexplained. now assemble them in such a way that all of them may be seen at a glance. now carefully redraw them exactly in a row by the time they appeared. now study the mathematical formulas in their goemetrical patterns. you should find nearly the same if not the exact same re-occur- ing mathematical patterns. i feel that these formations may be some sort of script. maybe an alphebet, possibly whole trains of thought. chu-chu: http://x23.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=517556116CONTEXT=935766320.1834090523 : Do you embed trains of thought in y'r crop circles? Do you only embed y'r thought-trains in crop circles that will be considered unexplained? Why??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Religious in Turkey believe quake is divine warning. (AP) The quake hit the heartland of secular Turkey, but has stoked religious fervor among some Turks looking for reason behind the random devastation. A radical Islamic group, Hezbollah, smashed windows and bottles at a state-owned liquor store in Istanbul, blaming booze peddlers for bringing damnation. http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_25item=#935626099 # Hizbullah moving to Europe? Hizbullah is thought to be shifting its base from Lebanon to Europe and has stepped up the recruitment of Europeans to help carry out its operations. Senior sources in Israeli military intel- ligence claim the group is changing its location in anticipation of a possible peace deal between Israel and Syria. Peace is intolerable: http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_26item=#935722460 : Do your deities smite the Earth and its inhabitants due to human weakness? Do you wage war for your deity(s)? Do voices in your head insist? What's y'r favorite non/random devastation? Who would you like to devastate? When? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'Jolly Lama' spreads message. (U-WIRE) STILLWATER, Okla. "Do you love sinners, Preacher Bob yes or no?" "I love them with a perfect hatred." "What do you think about the guy preaching earlier, Bob?" "I hate his message." "Why?" "He was wearing an earring that already makes him suspicious." http://news.excite.com/news/uw/990826/odd-216 : Do you love sinners? Do sinners love you? Are you a sinner? Are you love- able? Who do you hate? Why do you hate? Are you hated? For good reasons??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Palestinian officials deny Holocaust. The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) urged Sec. of State Madeleine Albright, meeting with PA official Abu Mazen, to pressure him to publicly retract his claim that the Nazis didn't murder six million Jews. Abu Mazen (nee Mahmoud Abbas) wrote a book, "The Other Side: The Secret Relationship Between Nazism and the Zionist Move- ment," which argues that the Nazis really killed less than a million Jews and that "the Zionist movement was a partner in the slaughter of the Jews." http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_26item=#935688175 : Who's your favorite Holocaust denier? Are you a Holocaust denier? What's y'r favorite disinformation campaign? Do you promulgate disinformation? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Home-Made Sauna Kills Monk, Followers. BANGKOK (Reuters) An 88-year-old Buddhist monk three elderly women died and five people were hospitalized in northern Thailand after they spent hours in a home-made herbal sauna, police said. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990827/10/odd-thailand-sauna : Do you prefer your monks/priests/pastors broiled, boiled, fried, baked, or BBQ'd? Are they best with an herbal sauce, peppercorns, jalapenos, or Dijon? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: #
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990827c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No lonely cosmonauts were harmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Stress makes baby girls likelier. (BBC) People who suffer severe emotional stress around the time they conceive a baby are more likely to parent a girl: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_431000/431219.stm : What are the implications of stress-makes-girls? Are population gender im- balances signs of too much stress? Are you stressed by people, aliens, me? Do ETs deliberately stress humanity to get the gender mix they prefer? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # GENE THERAPY - A REVOLUTION IN HEALING. In 1990, a 4-year-old girl with a form of severe combined immunodeficiency disease (SCID) became the first person to undergo gene therapy -- the transplantation of genes into cells to treat or even prevent disease in people. Fervor erupted over early gene therapy trials: http://cnn.com/HEALTH/mayo/9908/26/gene.therapy/index.html # 'Scientists started Aids epidemic'. (BBC) A polio vaccine using tissue from primates could have been behind the leap made by the human immuno- deficiency virus [HIV] from apes and moneys to humans, a new book claims. Oops: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_431000/431167.stm # Scientists develop plague vaccine. LONDON (AP) UK govt scientists have developed a vaccine against bubonic plague to help protect military troops from biological warfare. The vaccine is in a "particularly advanced stage" of development and is ready to be tested on humans. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560882925-6eb : What's your favorite therapy? Have you developed any therapies lately? Are there unforseen side-effects? Have you accidentally started a plague? Which? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Water found in meteorite. (BBC) Scientists have made the first discovery of liquid water in a meteorite that fell to Earth over Texas in 1998. Ker- splash: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_431000/431496.stm # Scientists examine meteorite water. WASHINGTON (AP) Scientists who cracked open a meteorite that fell to earth last year found tiny pockets of briny water, providing the first close look at water not originating on earth. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560887782-445 : Are you excited about the discovery of fossilized Reptilioid piss? Will a superior beer or ale result from this discovery? Are Australians thrilled?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Impressive debut for Chandra. (BBC) The first stunning pictures from the new Chandra X-ray observatory are made public. Better eyes than Superman: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_431000/431168.st @ Image: http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9908/26/chandra.01/cassiopeia.large.jpg @ Sites: Chandra X-ray telescope: http://www.xraytelescope.com/ @ Harvard-Smithsonian Chandra Center: http://chandra.harvard.edu/ @ NASA Chandra X-ray Observatory News: http://chandra.nasa.gov/ # FIRST CHANDRA IMAGES SHOW STELLAR EXPLOSION, X-RAY JET. A gigantic stellar explosion with maybe a neutron star or black hole at its center is one of the first crisp offerings of NASA's newest space telescope. Another image shows a powerful X-ray jet blasting 200,000 light years into intergalactic space from a distant quasar. The images prove NASA's $1.5 billion Chandra X-ray Observatory is in excellent health, its instruments and optics performing well. http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9908/26/chandra.01/index.html : What're your favorite XRays, black holes, neutron stars? Do you have pix? Did you XRay a Reptilioid lately? What are they like inside? Are they hot?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Mir cosmonauts in final checks. (BBC) The crew of Russia's Mir space station are spending their last day on board the ageing craft before leaving it to fly unmanned around the Earth, engines sputtering. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_431000/431119.stm # Farewell to Mir. (BBC) Looking back over 14 eventful years of the Mir: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_431000/431556.stm # Sharman Reflects. Briton Helen Sharman recalls her flight to Mir in 1991. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_431000/431039.stm # Mir: A timeline. Mir was supposed to remain in space for just five years. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_62000/62716.stm : Will you miss Mir? Will Mir miss you? Where will it crash? Will it be hij- acked? Who'll steal Mir? What will they do with it? D'ya wanna run Mir? Is it a good platform for beaming mind-control rays at Earth? Is it cozy? Yah? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Waco-A-Rama: # FBI/Waco: http://www.apbonline.com/911/1999/08/25/fbi0825_01.html @ Waco Burns:
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990827b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No email imploded during the production of this bulletin. That I know of. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # IMPLODING MESSAGES: YOU *HAD* MAIL. Say hello to the newest in über- encrypted email. It's so secure it self-destructs after you read it. Oh, and there's a US$50k reward for anyone who can decipher the key. Fading ink: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21452.html # Bank Sent Investors Virus In E-Mail. TOKYO (Reuters) One of Japan's biggest banks said it accidentally e-mailed a computer virus to some global investors last week, but said no harm was done to the investors' or its own computer network systems. Not that they know of, anyway... : Do you look forward to surprises in your email? Do you prefer email that bites, explodes, burns, stinks, infects, rots, multiplies, disappears? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Scared Ranchers Trade Cattle By Video. BOGOTA (Reuters) Colombian ranchers are using videos to trade cattle rather than travel to auctions in the countryside and run the risk of being kidnapped by Marxist guerrillas. Rational: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990827/10/odd-colombia-cattle # TV To Transmit War In Black And White. BOGOTA (Reuters) Colombian TV will stop airing color images of its long-running guerrilla war and instead broadcast scenes of political violence in black and white, industry chiefs said Thursday. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990827/10/odd-media-colombia : Would you rather kill ranchers, cattle or guerillas? Would you rather see live or dead cattle, in black-and-white or color, in person or on tape? Can the images be manipulated by mind-controllers, aliens, robots, me? What for? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'A FLAW WORSE THAN MELISSA'. A Windows bug permits an attacker to take control of an entire PC, and all the owner has to do is open an email message. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21459.html # Swatting Down the Win 98 Bug. A day after significant security issues in Windows and ActiveX were shown, companies scrambled to patch and spin. LogiEpoxy: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21456.html : What's your favorite WinBug? Is it a bug or a feature? Is Windoze a virus? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Tree-Eating Beetle Invades Manhattan. NEW YORK (Reuters) New York City seems to be getting hit with catastrophes of biblical proportions this summer. First sweltering heat, then drought, then floods that strand thousands of people and now a plague of locusts well, tree-eating Asian long-horned beetles to be exact. First-born sons are considered at risk next: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990827/10/odd-beetle-manhattan : What's your favorite catastrophe of biblical proportions? Have you gener- ated any catastrophes lately? Who have you afflicted? Why? Is it fun? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Lobster-Cam on the Web. PORTLAND, Maine (AP) A new Web site is launching lobsters into cyberspace. It's based inside an underwater trap at Spruce Head, where a camera sends a new photo to http://www.midcoast.com/lobcam/ every 2 minutes, sometimes showing a caged crustacean poking its antennae around or climbing across the lens. The pictures can only be seen during the day until a burnt-out light in the trap is fixed. Sounds fishy to me. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560882072-6f0 : What's your favorite crustacean? Do you like to spy on crustaceans? Would you mind if crustaceans spied on you? Do they crawl around inside your head? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Hippo Hurts Census Official. NAIROBI (Reuters) A hippopotamus seriously injured a census official in Kenya's Hell's Gate national park, the latest in a spate of accidents hampering the population survey, newspapers reported Friday. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990827/10/odd-hippo : Have hippo-controllers teamed with conservatives to thwart census efforts? How effectively will the US census be disrupted? What animals will be used? # Killer Bees Kill One, Injure 12: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990826/09/odd-mexico-bees # Boy Attacked By Piranha In Canal: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990826/09/odd-japan-piranha : Have animals declared war on humans? Have humans declared war on animals? # Woman Charged With Stomping Mice In Porn Video. LOS ANGELES (Reuters) A woman was ordered to stand trial on animal cruelty charges after a judge viewed part of a pornographic videotape that showed her apparently stomp- ing mice to death. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990827/10/odd-crime-mice : Would you rather stomp mice, attack a census official, or be maimed by bees and fish? Is bee-squishing pornographic? Have you had sex with a hippo? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Y2K-a-Rama: # Y2K - Major
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] # 'Scientists started Aids epidemic'. (BBC) A polio vaccine using tissue from primates could have been behind the leap made by the human immunodeficiency virus [HIV] from apes and moneys to humans, http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_431000/431167.stm To err is human. To cause the destruction of the species is one bad hair day! We're just more meat for the Reptilioids to harvest, eh? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And your characterizations about scientific paradigms are absurd and totally inaccurate. Scientists make their reputations by squashing old paradigms, not worshipping them - by establishing new paradigms, not abjuring them. You've never read a scientific journal, have you? I don't know where you read science journals at but this is just plain wrong. Reputable scientists with new theories are often ridiculed and put down, without even a proper hearing, if their theories do not jibe with those of the people in positions of power in the scientific establishment. When a person is prevented from publishing and getting "peer review" then, in effect, their career is doomed. Ever heard of the Internet? Ever read a sci.* newsgroup? Ever seen the discussions on data and theories, the pre-publication collaboration that goes on constantly, the sharing of results? You're talking about a rigid controlled environment that no longer exists. Sure, establishments DID exist, the most flagrant example being Soviet 'science' supporting Lysen- koism - a doctrine so wrong that it's crippled Russian agriculture for decades afterwards. But in the New World Order of scattered, wired researchers, a doctrinaire establishment is rapidly eclipsed. Science is about *testable*, *workable*, *usable* theories - explanations that don't work, don't survive. It's remarkably Darwinian. This takes place regularly, and with conviction. People are routinely prevented from publishing when they have something to say which greatly contradicts the current paradigm. Give us some current examples, please. Present some evidence to support this contention. WHO is prevented from presenting their ideas? WHO is so totally censored that they can't even publish on the Net? C'mon, name some names. With that said, it is an entrenched system like most others and is not likely to change any time soon. Science is not bad, it is good and has enabled us to understand the world around us like never before, and I'm all for the further (well thought out) use of it in the future, and for every possible advance. Entrenched system? Look at ANY field where there are rapid changes, where anything published 5 years ago is obsolete, and try to say "entrenched system" with a straight face. Hint: physics, biology, astronomy, cognition, archaeology... Furthermore, I don't deny evolution I just think alternative view- points should be allowed a hearing. JUST BECAUSE SOME SCIENTIST SAYS SOMETHING IS SO, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS, EVEN IF A BUNCH OF OTHER SCIENTISTS THINK IT IS TOO. Other theories, or speculations, or notions, as you are wont to call them, should be examined and allowed a fair airing. If they are rubbish the rational will reject them, covering them up, ignoring them, refusing them a hearing, or ridiculing them just makes them seem more attractive to some members of society, most particularly the fundamentalist Christianity that is imbued in conspiracy theory today. Ever been to a scientific conference? For ever 3 scientists, there are 5 theories. Those theories supported by the most evidence make it to the next round of conferences. Alternative notions that aren't supported by the evidence, that aren't predictive, that aren't test- able, are dismissed. That's the Darwinian process - your theory's gotta work better than everyone else's, or it'll be shitcanned. By thrusting it in a corner they unwittingly give it more weight. Why do you think there has always been such interest in the Kennedy assassination? Let the record speak and present all views and let the rational man (or woman) make their decision. The rest, well they'll think what they want to anyway. Creationism and Lysenkoism and many other doctrines lost out many decades ago, and only survive now in political realms. One needn't "fairly consider" a doctrine that's already been shown to be bogus. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory
[CTRL] New Bill Of Rights
-Caveat Lector- The New Bill Of Rights 1. Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of rifle ranges, pistol clubs, shooting societies, gun clubs, or any other such organization; or prohibiting the free use of guns; or abridging the freedom to shoot or to hunt; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble firearms collections, and to redress their grievances with guns [or any other weapons.] 2. A comfortable and well-regulated populace being necessary to the security of a responsible state, the levy by any individual, group, partnership, company or governmental entity of any impost, toll or tariff of any kind upon the use by the people of sanitary facilities in the Unites States or any place subject to their jurisdiction is hereby forbidden. 3. Congress shall make no law prohibiting prayers in schools, or any other place, or abridging the freedom of reasonable speech or a responsible press; but speech shall be taken to mean sounds that come out of people's mouths or, if provoked, their guns, and not strange and unnatural dress or hair, or cohabitation with persons of the same sex, or offensive or perverted gestures or behavior, or other things that cannot be heard and have to be seen to be believed; nor shall disrespectful silence or the display of badges, buttons or slogans be held to be speech; but nothing herein shall be construed as limiting or abridging the right of the people to affix to the bumpers of their vehicles such signs and declarations as they may choose; and the press shall be held responsible for any smut or nasty things; nor shall any publisher insert any card in any periodical which shall fall upon the people's lap when it is opened. 4. Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speed by setting arbitrary limits thereon; or prohibiting turns to the right on a red light after a full stop; or preventing the removal of any buzzer or alarm in any vehicle or the installation of any device, electronic or otherwise, therein; or requiring any person to wear a belt, harness, helmet, or other encumber-ance while in motion of any kind; or restricting the right of the people to assemble at the scene of an accident or disaster to acquaint themselves with the results; or depriving any person of leisure, mobility, or a license to drive, without due process of law. 5. No person who has been granted lawful entrance to an establishment which has on its premises an hors d'oeuvre table, salad bar, or other assembly of comestibles shall be prevented from filling his plate therefrom as often as he shall choose, nor be made subject to any additional charge therefor, providing only that he shall have agreed to pay the full cost of an entree. 6. No person receiving public monies of any kind of support or aid shall be quartered in a hotel or any other such lodging, with or without the consent of the owner. 7. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, garages, cars, trailers, recreational vehicles, leisure homes, condominiums, papers, effects, belongs, and gun collections shall not be violated; nor shall they be required to seek permits to make additions or improvements upon their basements or attics or any place; nor shall any person enter therein for the purposes of inspection or assessment without their consent; nor shall they be required to enumerate their flush toilets or closets or any other thing therein, save only its occupants; and if anyone shall enter in or upon their property or vehicles without their consent they may in the first instance shoot, and then make inquiries. 8. After one year from the ratification of this article, the sale of contai-ners with tops which require than one motion to remove is hereby prohibited within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction. 9. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime unless a police officer shall say that he did it; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life and limb, except if his sentence be excessively lenient or his acquittal be due to a technicality or be otherwise ridiculous; nor shall he be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself and he shall be informed of his right to remain in confinement until he consents to do so; and if he shall be a witness against himself, he shall have the right to confront and cross-examine himself. 10. In all criminal presentations, the criminal shall enjoy the right to a speed and public trial by a jury of not less than one person, whose verdict must be unanimous in all capital cases; and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation and of the lesser charge to which he may plead guilty, as well as of the maximum sentence he could receive should he be found guilty of the original charge; and to have compulsory process to obtain copies of his confession; and to have present at his trial a court-room artist [and/or a video camera to
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990826a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No cult compounds were besieged during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Furor over Turkey death count. ISTANBUL (AP) Vast fluctuations in Turkey's earthquake death toll, jumping by about 6,000 only to fall back, prompted opposition parties to question the government's accuracy and organization. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560871501-971 : Who's behind the widely fluctuating death counts? How many of the victims were harvested by Reptilioids, their disappearances hidden by bureaucrats? Why sere US military/govt leaders in Istanbul during the quake? Who did it? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # FBI beginning new Waco inquiry. WASHINGTON (AP) - The FBI is launching an internal inquiry into why it took six years to admit that agents may have fired potentially flammable tear gas canisters on the final day of the 1993 standoff with the Branch Davidian cult near Waco, Texas. Circle the wagons: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560874638-c3b # FBI STATEMENT ON WACO SIEGE RAISES QUESTIONS. Embarrassing about-face for law enforcement: http://cnn.com/US/9908/26/fbi.waco.01/index.html : Do you run or work for any police/security/intelligence agency? D'ya have anything to hide? What have you covered up? Are your masters pleased? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ex-spy plans Net disclosures. (BBC) Renegade MI5 officer David Shayler has said he will reveal further secrets of his work with the UK's intelligence services. In an interview, the ex-spy claimed the secrets were stored in his computer and ready to be published on the Internet. Whitehall quivers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_429000/429393.stm @ Links: MI5: http://www.mi5.gov.uk/ @ Shaylergate: http://www.shayler.com/ : Are supposed ex-spies to be believed? How deep is Shayler in the multiple layers of disinformation surrounding UK intelligence? How deep in are *you*? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Mozart-smart theory hit. (AP) A Mozart sonata may lift the soul, but it won't make listeners smarter, say 2 studies challenging previous research and popular belief about the effect of music on intelligence. New results call into question 1993 research that showed college students temporarily gained up to nine IQ points after listening to a Mozart piano sonata. The widely reported findings spawned an industry of supposedly mind-enhancing recordings. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560872050-a41 # Prelude or requiem for the 'Mozart effect'? http://www.nature.com/server-java/Propub/nature/400826A0.abs_frameset http://www.nature.com/server-java/Propub/nature/400827A0.abs_frameset # reply: Prelude or requiem for the 'Mozart effect'? http://www.nature.com/server-java/Propub/nature/400827B0.abs_frameset : Have you ever enhanced your brain? Did it work? Have you spent much money trying to enhance your brain? Do you sell brain-enhancing products? Is it profitable? Are you rich yet? If you're so smart, why aren't you rich? Huh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Mind-Control-A-Rama: @ ACID DREAMS - LSD and the CIA. "At first, the CIA thought LSD would make them virtual masters of the universe. Later, after sober second thought, they realized they might have to set their sights little lower, but they continued their enthusiasm for the drug (which Richard Helms called 'dynamite')." See http://www.spunk.org/library/misc/sp000530.txt @ US soldiers human guinea pigs / LSD. Between 1955 -1975, the US Army used 7,000 enlisted soldiers as human guinea pigs for experiments involving a wide array of biological chemical warfare agents, powerful mind-altering psychochemicals including LSD, PCP and BZ. These "volunteer" test subjects were not told which drugs they were given, and were not fully informed of the extreme physical/psychological effects these drugs would have on them. http://site034145.primehost.com/gallery/galleryitems/edgewood/edgewood.htm @ Colin Ross/ LSD/ BLUEBIRD. "...full proof of the fact that the Manchurian Candidate is real... created by the CIA and military. The documented mind control research includes putting brain electrodes in children as young as 11 years old and controlling their behavior from remote transmitters; giving 150 mcg of LSD per day to children age 7-11 for weeks and months at a time; building safe houses where CIA personnel watched prostitutes turn tricks with customers - the prostitutes gave their customers LSD without the customers' knowledge; wiping out memories with electric shock, and using animals with implanted brain electrodes as delivery systems for chemical and biological weapons. http://www.rossinst.com/blue.htm : What's your favorite mindcontrol
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990826b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No alien implants short-circuited during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 2 students arrested in plot. PALATKA, Florida (AP) - Two boys at a school for troubled children were arrested on charges they were plotting a return to their former high school to kill students and teachers. Better than Columbine: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560871423-97a : How young were you when you first plotted killings? Did the mindcontrol programs implanted in you work correctly? Did you succeed? Were you caught? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ WORKSHOP: Rumors, Hoaxes, Frauds Urban Legends. Mohawk College (Fennell Campus) in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada will hold a 1-day workshop on rumors, hoaxes and urban legends on Saturday, October 16, from 9 am to 4 pm. This course looks at how misinformation gets into different outlets, why they are believed and how to spot them. There will be plenty of case studies, from the infamous to the obscure. Course code is LLM32. This course is for anyone who is interested in being a savvier news consumer. For more info, call Mohawk College at 1 905 575 1212 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] : What are your favorite rumors, hoaxes, legends? Have you created/dissemi- nated many? What actions are you planning against workshop attendees? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Thai monk surrenders to cops. BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) A renegade Thai monk accused of illegally amassing a personal fortune from donations gave him- self up after riot police surrounded his sprawling temple complex. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560871080-a7a : Is the leader of your belief subsystem wealthy? Do you lead a sect? Are ya rich yet? Why not? Have the police come for you yet? Will they soon? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Kin of man in cult suit abducted. TOKYO (AP) The daughter of a man suing the cult blamed for a deadly 1995 nervegas attack on the Tokyo subways was briefly kidnapped by a man who warned her to make her father drop the suit. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560865776-360 : Does your belief system promote kidnapping, intimidation, mass murder? Do you have any plans beyond Doomsday? Would you kill to hasten Doomsday? Who? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Cult mind control - The 10 themes of cult membership: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-08.htm 1) The Doctrine is Reality - The cult's beliefs allow no interpretation, or opposing views to be valid. 2) Reality is Black and White, Good Versus Evil - no outside group is valid, "no room for interpretation or deviation". 3) Elitist Mentality - they are the chosen ones. 4) Group Will Over Individual Will -"the self must submit to the group"; "individuality is bad"; "conformity is good". 5) Strict Obedience: Modeling the Leader - the leader is imitated by all. 6) Happiness through good performance - behaviors are controlled by shaming, competition; friendships are discouraged. 7) Manipulation through fear - "each group has its devil... around the corner waiting" to kill you or whatever. 8) Emotional highs and lows - from great productivity to crashing (always due to the individual's inadequacies, according to the cult). 9) Changes in Time Orientation - pre-cult life is bad, the present is crucial (pressure to meet quotas, etc.) the future is known by the leader, reward or punishment, the world will end, etc. 10) No Way Out - "there is never a legitimate reason for leaving" A) Cults also use "love bombing," lots of flattery early on to "suck people in." This disappears later once a person is in deeper. : What's your favorite cult? Who's your favorite cult leader? Do you lead a cult? Is it fun? Do you enjoy sex drugs adulation? Does one or more god speak thru you? What do they say? Do you ever edit them? Are they pleased?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Demand soars for pope's cakes. WARSAW, Poland (AP) The endorsement of the pope has sent sales of cream cakes in a southern Polish town skyrocketing. Demand for cream cakes in Wadowice soared more than 10 times after John Paul II casually told residents of his hometown during a June visit that he had enjoyed the treats as a boy. Bakery shops say they now sell 2,500 kremowki or cream cakes a day to local residents and tourists. Before the pope's visit, they averaged 200 a day. ### : "Gimme that old-time kremowki, Gimme that old-time kremowki, It was good enough for J.P., And it's good enough for me!" (tune: Old-Time Religion) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Entrance to Holy Sepulcher not made. JERUSALEM (AP) A second exit to the crowded Church of the Holy Sepulcher may not be ready in time for the millions of pilgrims expected to visit in the year 2000.
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Thursday #1 - spy vs spy
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: ric carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Ex-spy plans Net disclosures. (BBC) Renegade MI5 officer David Shayler has said he will reveal further secrets of his work with the UK's intelligence services ... on the Internet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_429000/429393.stm Is this the same guy who released the names of operatives around the world? I enjoy reading the dirty little secrets of our country, but I have a major problem putting peoples lives at risk, and those of their families, simply to show off. Ah, but are Shayler's 'disclosures' real, or just another layer of disinfo, and how can we tell? One or more intel agencies may have put Shayler out in public view to 1) distract the public from real operations elsewhere, 2) provide alternate scenarios for past real operations, and 3) provoke public support for strengthened "official secrets" measures. Mazes within mazes within... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990826c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No alien implants were short-circuited during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ CROP CIRCLES OF DA GODS. The circle: notice the extra small circle. During the solar eclipse earlier this month a small circular something was seen at the same location during totality. If it was a hoax, how did they know something would be spotted there? Any answers from debunkers? C'mon now: http://cropcircleconnector.com/1999/Bishopcannings/bishopcannings99a.html : Have you encoded future information in your crop circles? Did you encode something more/less important than eclipse details? What was your purpose?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CASE OF THE BLINKING BROADCASTERS. Ever wonder why watching the evening news makes you feel nervous? It might be because the news anchors blink too much. According to researchers, too much blinking can set the audience on edge. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15889 # VIAGRA: IT CAN LIFT YOUR MOOD, TOO. Viagra is now reported to help men who have erectile dysfunction and depression - in a new study, men whose impo- tence was improved by the drug also saw their depression go away. It makes sense that feeling better sexually will get rid of the blues. Rise and shine: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15891 : Are blinking news-anchors and impotence relief further refinements of mind control techniques? Are the orgasmic or non-orgasmic more easily controlled? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Israeli court upsets Orthodox. JERUSALEM (AP) Giant pieces of electric equipment must be transported on the Jewish Sabbath, Israel's Supreme Court ruled Wednesday, setting aside objections by religious parties. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560869744-ce2 : Does your belief subsystem object to moving giant pieces of electric gear on certain days? Do you object to electrocutions on certain days? Why fry?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # In First Case Of Fully Automated Design, Computers Shape Lego Bricks Into Various Designs Without Human Input. Evolution, until now the unchallenged domain of living organisms, may soon become possible for robots as well. A simple computer-based form of evolution - nature's own design strategy - has succeeded in designing LEGO structures without any assistance from humans. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990826071332.htm # Japan's NEC Develops Home Helper Robot. TOKYO (Reuters) - Just can't find good help these days? Japanese chipmaker NEC Corp may have the answer: an egg-shaped household robot that responds to voice commands, records and sends video-mail through the Internet and switches on air conditioners, televisions and VCRs with an infrared remote control device. Danger, Will Robinson! http://news.excite.com/news/r/990826/07/science-japan-robot : What's your favorite robot? Have you designed/build/dismantled any robots lately? Are you a robot? Do you respond to voice commands? Are you surly?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Reusable spacecraft in the works. WASHINGTON (AP) Flight tests will begin next year on a new generation of reusable spacecraft that will be less expensive to operate than current rocket launchers. X-33, X-34, X-37 - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560860414-809 # Mir's demise caps Soviet space era. MOSCOW (AP) After 13-1/2 years, more than 77,000 loops around the Earth and 1,600 breakdowns, the Mir craft is scheduled to bid farewell to its final full-time crew. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560867483-89f # Also: Americans will miss Mir, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560867492-25f # And: Key statistics about Mir, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560867504-e03 : What's your favorite spacecraft? Are you lost in space? Are you brokedown? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ FANS OF FEMALE BODYBUILDERS AND LARGE, STRONG WOMEN. While the alt.amazon- women newsgroup had about 1/10 the postings of alt.amazon-women.admirers, there are lotsa "Amazon Women" out there. If you ignore the spam, there's actually a tone of fond respect for these women, not just for lifting the weights to get them bulky but for going against the grain of aesthetics. (And it's a great spot for Xena-philes.) news:alt.amazon-women.admirers : Who's your favorite strong woman? Are you a strong woman? Wanna hurt me?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Maitreya-A-Rama: @ Maitreya info: http://members.xoom.com/spot_the_con/index.html @ Benjamin Maitreya are the fulfillment of ... What Religion did you say it was again? http://members.xoom.com/spot_the_con/7.html @ Benjamin Stuff Ups -False Predictions-
[CTRL] Fw: Trend Virus Report
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:21 PM Subject: Trend Virus Report * V I R U S R E P O R T (by Trend US Virus Research Group) * - Date: 08.24.99 Issue: 8.5 - Issue Preview: O97M_TRIPLICATE, 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Wild Viruses Surveyed by Trend US, Top 10 Viruses Trend US Customers are concerned about, PE_KRIZ Update, W97M_SHANKAR, W97M_CONT, W97M_AKUMA. * 1. One stone to kill three birds: The hunt for O97M_TRIPLICATE - O97M_TRIPLICATE is a macro virus that infects Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint data files. Even though we have added detection and cleaning for O97M_TRIPLICATE several months ago, we continue to receive reports of new infections. This week, O97M_TRIPLICATE even made it back to Trend's "10 Most Prevalent In-the-Wild Viruses" list. In this regard, we want to remind our customers to update their product to the latest Trend pattern file and to scan their system for the O97M_TRIPLICATE virus. In addition, we advise all our users to scan all Microsoft Office files before opening them. A detailed description of O97M_TRIPLICATE is available on Trend's website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=W97M_TRIPLICA TE 2. 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Wild Viruses Surveyed by Trend US (week of: 08/16/99 to 08/22/99) - 1. TROJ_SKA 2. JOKE_WOW 3. JOKE_GESCHENK 4. O97M_TRIPLICATE 5. TROJ_CAIN.15 6. TROJ_DOH 7. W97M_MARKER 8. W97M_ETHAN 9. NE_SMALL.JOKE For the most prevalent viruses for the month of July'99, please visit our website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/most_prevalent.htm 3. Top 10 viruses customers are most concerned about (where systems were not infected) - 1. PE_KRIZ 2. PE_KRIZ.3740 3. TROJ_CAIN.15 4. TROJ_SKA 5. VBS_MONOPOLY 6. JOKE_LANCHECK 7. TROJ_COOLGAME 8. VBS_FREELINK 9. TROJ_NETBUS 10. TROJ_NE_AOL.CJ 4. PE_KRIZ - A real threat or just another virus hyped up by some antivirus vendors? - Now that it has been one week since the appearance of PE_KRIZ, we would like to inform our customers that we still have not received any reports of infection from our customers. At this point, PE_KRIZ seems to be another virus, very similar to PE_EMPEROR, that received too much media attention but didn't do any damage. Even though PE_KRIZ is not likely to spread widely (or at all), we want to let our customers know that Trend pattern file 574 or later can detect this virus. For additional information about PE_KRIZ, please refer to our Virus Encyclopedia at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_KRIZ.3740 5. W97M_SHANKAR - W97M_SHANKAR (a.k.a. Marker.O) is a very simple macro virus, which infected several users in the past two month. While it has no destructive payload, W97M_SHANKAR displays a message box during the month of July. For a detailed virus description, please visit our website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=W97M_SHANKAR W97M_SHANKAR can be detected and cleaned with Trend pattern file 575 or later. 6. W97M_CONT (Potential data loss on the 17th of each month) - Also reported this week was W97M_CONT, a destructive macro virus which executes its payload on the 17th of each month. On that day, W97M_CONT adds the following text to C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT: " deltree /Y f:\* " " deltree /Y e:\* " " deltree /Y d:\* " " deltree /Y c:\* " " rem Created by Dream Blaster " " rem Minny, you are simply a bx " Upon rebooting, all files on the C, D, E and F drives are deleted. In order to prevent this from happening, we have added detection and cleaning for W97M_CONT to Trend's latest bandage pattern file as well as to the next release pattern file. For more information about W97M_CONT please go to our website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=W97M_CONT.A 7. W97M_AKUMA - a second destructive macro virus: - Just
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990826d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Cthulhu didn't arise from the deep during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Beware swarms of 'smart dust'. CLEANLINESS freaks have a new rationale for their pathological hatred of dust: it could soon be spying on them. Packed full of sensors, lasers and communications transceivers, motes of "smart dust" are being designed to communicate with one another. They could be used for a range of applications from weather monitoring to spying. Make a clean sweep of it: http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/ns-bso082499.html : Are you surrounded by dust that's smarter than you? Are you dumber than dirt? Do you feel obsolete, relinquished to the dustbin of history? Already? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Nanobots And Aerobots To Explore The Planets. A swarm of cunning robots - some only several inches wide - soon may swarm, float, walk, swim, fly, creep, burrow and hop across the alien worlds of the solar system. Smaller, cheaper, faster: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/nano.htm : Would you like to explore the Solar system? Are you a robot? D'ya want to have your consciousness implanted into an explorer 'bot? Will you return?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Cleric: Rushdie wasn't to be killed. DUBAI, U.A.E.(AP) - Iran's Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini did not really intend to have Salman Rushdie killed when he condemned the British author to death for blaspheming Islam, a moderate Iranian cleric said. Khomeini just wanted to publicize the case and discourage others from insulting Islam. A slap on the wrist - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560881535-755 : Do you take death threats and bounties seriously? Have you ever issued or received a death threat? Have you ever been chased by or led stone-throwing mobs? When/why? [Note: I've had two such mobs chase me - it's not much fun.] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China: Farmers formed secret army. BEIJING (AP) Authorities say they have broken up a secret, private army set up by farmers in southwestern China, arresting as many as 20 members and charging 10 with subversion. Dozens had joined the unauthorized militia in the two years since farmer Yang Jiahua began recruiting in the hilly countryside near Chongqing city. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560879855-73e What's your favorite militia? Would you rather join/run a militia in China, Bosnia, Angola, Texas? Are you subversive? Will you kill or be killed soon? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New ancient ape skeleton studied. WASHINGTON (AP) A baboon-sized ape that lived in East Africa about 15 million years ago may have been among the first primates to leave the treetops and live on the ground, a key step in the evolutionary path that theoretically led eventually to humans. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560882061-41a : Did you evolve theoretically or really? Are you still evolving, or static? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Canada's Military Secrets Posted On Web: http://www.canoe.ca/CalgaryNews/cs.cs-08-26-0019.html # Hackers Offered $50,000 To Crack E-Mail: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990826/00/net-hacking-email?printstory=1 # Yahoo Calendar: What About User Privacy? http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/238/business/A_wide_open_calendar+.shtml # Programmers get glimpse of software project - geriatric vaporware: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560870251-fde # Gates said 'Pirates' film got it wrong - Satanic link omitted: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560870904-428 # Update on status (nonstatus?) of WebGov: http://idg.net/go.cgi?id=153726 @ World Biographical Index: online index of over 2 million short biographies for people who lived in North South America, Western Central Europe, Australia, Oceania, and New Zealand. You can search by name, occupation, year of birth, year of death, and year cited. You can also specify specific archives to search. http://www.biblio.tu-bs.de/acwww25u/wbi_en/ # Road to enlightenment - Dalai Lama purifies Indiana: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560879714-93d # Calcuttans honor Mother Teresa - sacred cows poop on her grave: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560880527-ceb # IGNORANCE IS BLISS - Chemical Industry Keeps You in the Dark: www.publicampaign.org/ouch.html#chemical @ HateWatch News - http://hatewatch.org # Jury not able to agree beating was hate crime: http://www.spokane.net/news-story-body.asp?Date=082699ID=s627348cat= # Reservation beating probed as hate crime: http://www.pioneerplanet.com/seven-days/1/news/docs/026851.htm # Content of racist/antigay fliers was legal, lawyers say:
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990825a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No revolts were crushed during production of this bulletin. What a relief. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The real truth about Crop Circles: Who are they'r creators?, why?, how?, why in England?, how to read the messages?, where is the proof?... Look deeply into the crystal ball, here: http://zetatalk.com/awaken/a22.htm http://zetatalk.com/awaken/a45.htm http://zetatalk.com/awaken/a79.htm : Have you encoded many messages in the crop circles you've created? Is DNA better for encoding messages than are crop circles? What do you have to say? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Real Estate Mogul Reaches For The Stars. (WSJ) LAS VEGAS - In 1947, Robert T. Bigelow's grandparents were driving through the desert near Las Vegas when a glowing red ball hurtled menacingly toward their car before making a sharp turn and disappearing. That was the story that his grandparents told Mr. Bigelow when he was a child. And he's sticking to it. Mr. Bigelow began quietly funding UFO research in 1990, and says he has already pumped as much as $10 million into the effort. http://msnbc.com/news/303522.asp : What kicked-off your quest for the unknown? Were you induced, shoved, led by the nose, tricked? Have you spent a lot of money on your search? Where?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Masonic Beliefs Practices. "While there probably are some actual stone- workers who are Masons, Masonry does not teach is membership the literal techniques of stonework. Rather, it takes the actual 'operative' work of Medieval Masons and uses it as an allegory for moral development. Thus, the symbols of Masonry are the common tools that were used by medieval stonemasons: the gavel, the rule, the compass, the square, the level, etc. Each of these has a symbolic meaning in Masonry." Same as in life: http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/masons/mrituals.html : What are your favorite symbols? Do the meanings change over time? Did ETs implant those meanings in your consciousness? Would you prefer new symbols? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China vows to punish sect leaders. BEIJING (AP) -- China vowed to punish leading members of outlawed meditation group Falun Gong in the strongest indication yet that the group's organizers will be prosecuted. The order told cops to treat the group's practitioners as victims, unaware of the "political goals and evil motives." But they'll be firmly re-educated. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560851089-3a4 : Is your sect evil? Is your gov't evil? Are you a perpetrator or a victim? Do you have political goals, spiritual goals, unreal goals, galactic goals? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Institute of Metahistory. The Institute of Metahistory unites people who believe that the existing ideas of the past of the human civilization can be wrong in many respects, since they were evolved on the basis of data which can hardly be considered exhaustive, and bear the imprint of a vast number of stereotypes. We think that as a result of closer cooperation between different sciences, the renunciation of biased opinions and the arrogant confidence that modern science, at least basically, knows every- thing about everything, a fuller and more reliable picture of the past of the human civilization can be reconstructed. http://www.imh.ru/main_e.htm : Do you know everything about everything, everything about something, some- thing about nothing, nothing about nothing? Do you accumulate metaknowledge? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiBriefs: # No evidence Ford used slave labor. WARSAW (AP) Auschwitz historians have proven that Ford vehicles were used at the Nazi death camp, but have found no evidence that the company used inmates as slave laborers. Rendered for grease? http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560850928-223 # Modified cows could fight MS. (BBC) A human gene could be introduced into cows in an attempt to find a new treatment for multiple sclerosis. Mooo... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_429000/429096.stm # PIPE DREAMS. An American arrested in Canada and charged with plotting to blow up the trans-Alaska oil pipeline on New Year's Day was motivated by the most American of reasons: profit. Times sabotage to coincide with the "multiplier effect I'm expecting from the whole millennium effect." Try cashing in: http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/story/21405.html # Japan cans J-1 rocket program. TOKYO (AP) Japan will scrap its J-1 rocket program due to cost overruns and build a new rocket using cheaper foreign- made engines. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560851161-799 # Immune breakthrough aids transplantation. (BBC) Receiving a transplant organ also means a lifetime of
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990825b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No ominous forecasts were murmured during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Accused Witches Stabbed To Death. JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) Two elderly South African women were stabbed to death with spears after they were accused of practicing witchcraft: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990825/08/odd-witches : How do you prefer to kill witches, warlocks, wizards: stabbing, burning, dismembering, other? Have you killed any witches lately? If they had any power, how did you manage to catch and kill them? Were they betrayed?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Buried Iceman Found. (ABC) The remains of a man found buried under the ice in north Canada remain somewhat of a mystery to archeologists. They think the body will provide clues to the history of Indians and their homeland. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/iceman990824.html : Why are no ET bodies found buried in ice, in pyramids, in fossil beds? Do they eat their dead? Is this 'Iceman' really an alien? How could you tell? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Cornell robot soccer team wins World Cup in Sweden. (U-WIRE) ITHACA, N.Y. The San Antonio Spurs and the Dallas Stars weren't the only teams crowned world champions this past summer. Cornell's robot soccer team took first place earlier this month at the Robot World Cup Initiative in Stockholm, Sweden. http://news.excite.com/news/uw/990824/odd-54 : Do you prefer athletes who are robots, humans, animals, aliens, A-Life? Do humans have a future in professional sports? Who would you bet on? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Symbiotic Star Blows Bubbles Into Space. A tempestuous relationship between an unlikely pair of stars may have created an oddly shaped, gaseous nebula that resembles an hourglass nestled within an hourglass. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990825081635.htm : Do you like to blow up stars for the aesthetics? Is galaxy-busting an art? What's your most beautiful supernova, black hole, cosmic collision? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Old English Market. (ABC) Under London's Royal Opera House, archaeologists have excavated a shopping center that thrived around 800 A.D., including a blacksmith shop, a studio, and a sword and tool repair shop. No Wendy's: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/excavation990818.html : Was it hard being a mall-rat 1200 years ago? How was the music piped in? Did aliens bother to shop there, or did they stick to their own mini-malls? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Experimental X-34 Rocket Plane To Begin Extensive Testing. NASA's experimental X-34 rocket plane will undergo testing in New Mexico, California and Florida under a test plan recently approved by Agency officials. Both schedule and cost implications are currently being evaluated. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990824201813.htm : What's your favorite spaceplane? Did aliens help us develop the X-34? Why? Do you enjoy testing spaceplanes? Is it better than working for a living?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Bomb-O-Rama: # POWERFUL TRUCK BOMB SHATTERS TALIBAN HEADQUARTERS - suspects U.S. involvement: http://cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9908/25/afghan.blast.ap/ # Taleban leader escapes bombing - several others killed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_429000/429665.stm # Strike in the Heart - Truck Bomb Blast Misses Taliban Leader: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/afghanistan_990825.html # FBI ADMITS FIRING POTENTIALLY FLAMMABLE DEVICES AT WACO - denies responsibility for fire: http://cnn.com/US/9908/24/fbi.waco/ http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/waco990824.html # Incendiary Devices WERE Used By Feds At Waco: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/wacoinc.htm # Texas Rangers Have Massive Evidence of Federal Brutality At Waco: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/wacohnt.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # New IE5 Security Bug The Worst Ever? http://www.internetnews.com/prod-news/print/0,1089,9_188461,00.html # Hackers Scanning For Trouble http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2319298-2,00.html # AOL Releases New IM Software: http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2319330-2,00.html # 11 Million Net Addicts? Come On! http://www.salonmagazine.com/tech/log/1999/08/24/addicts/print.html @ Reality won't go away: http://www.kolumbus.fi/lindstromit @ OPERATION HERMES: The Quest For The Legendary Egyptian Hall Of Records: http://www.osisnet.com/Hermes/intro.htm # LATEST UFO REPORTS: http://caus.org/mu082599.htm # PARANORMAL NEWS NETWORK: http://caus.org/pn082599.htm # PERSONAL CONTACT EXPERIENCES: http://caus.org/pc082599.htm @ Was AIDS Manmade? http://www.konformist.com/1999/aids/manmade.txt # Searching For
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990825c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No stars were artistically destroyed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # College Students Think Serious Illness Can Be 'Payback'. NEW YORK - A survey of college students finds that many subscribe to the unscientific notion that serious and fatal illness is sometimes a payback for bad behavior. "Even adults abandon scientific reasoning under certain circumstances" - http://foxnews.com/health/082499/payback.sml : Do you earn your diseases? Did your karma run over my dogma? Do what goes around, come around? Is cancer evidence of sin? Do aliens/demons punish you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE SOLDIER AND THE HUNCHBACK (A.Crowley) INQUIRY: What is Scepticism? The word means looking, questioning, investigating. One must contemptuously dismiss the Christian liar's gloss which interprets "sceptic" as "mocker"; though in a sense it is true for him, since to inquire into Christianity is assuredly to mock at it... http://www.chesco.com/~aconry/lib_0148.html : Do you inquire, investigate, question, mock? Does seeking breed contempt? Do you prefer questions or answers? Are answers of any use? Is mockery fun? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Falung Gong head cancels UK trip. LONDON (AP) The leader of the Falun Gong spiritual group has canceled plans to meet his British followers, ending a diplomatic row between China and Britain. A spokeswoman for Li Hongzhi, the New York-based leader of the group, said his decision not to make the trip was based on his own busy schedule and not diplomatic pressures. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560855944-0e7 : Is your spiritual movement a security threat to one or more nations? Are one or more nations threatening your spirit? Are your differences immense?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ MAPPA MUNDI. Gaze into your monitor; focus beyond the orderly rows of pixels, past the circuitry, farther even than the orbiting communications satellites. If you look far enough, can you see data-quasars and info- nebulae? Looking into cyberspace, what do you see? http://mappa.mundi.net/ : Where do you see more: on TV, in your computer, out the window, into your imagination/soul/fantasies, underwater? How far can you focus? What's there? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Number of Italians that have turned to the supernatural to solve problems of love, health and work: 10 million. Amount of money Italians spend yearly on fortune-telling, astrology and spiritualism: one billion lire ($547,000). Number of Italians that believed they were victims of fraud: 1.2 million : Do supernatural advisors/entities/forces help you solve problems of love, health and work? Do they charge much? Do they defraud you? Are you happy?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Big Brother, Big Fun at Amazon. A new Amazon.com service designed to create shopping communities worries some customers who are concerned about potential corporate espionage and threats to individual privacy. The feature lets anyone view books, movies, and CDs ordered by amazon.com customers at corporations, nonprofit groups, and govt agencies. Show your hand: http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21417.html : Do you care if everyone knows what your read/hear/think/see? Do you have anything to hide? Why? Are you ashamed, illegal, kinky, devious, alien? Is privacy meaningful, attainable, chimerical? Would you prefer a group-mind? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Fluoride-O-Rama: # The Fight Over Fluoride Continues: http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/98/Nov/18/lifestyle/FLUO18.htm http://www.all-natural.com/fleffect.html @ "Scientific Facts on the Biological Effects of Fluorides": http://www.sonic.net/~kryptox/fluoride.htm @ Fluoride http://www.garynull.com/documents/fluoridation.htm http://www.garynull.com/Documents/NutritionMind/nutritionmind-7.htm @ Fluoride: http://www.fluoride-journal.com/ http://www.cadvision.com/fluoride/index.htm http://www.holisticmed.net/add/mullenix.txt @ Intl Society for Fluoride Research: http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/ # Presentation related to fluoride compounds and neurotoxicity: "Study flags new formaldehyde risks": http://www.msnbc.com/news/231529.asp#BODY @ Fluoride the A-Bomb Program. During the ultra-secret Manhattan Project, a report was commissioned to assess the effect of fluoride on humans. That report was classified "secret" for reasons of "national security". http://www.altnews.com.au/nexus/fluoridebomb.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Yuckiest Site on the Internet: http://www.yucky.com/ @ Locus - Maps Over Time: http://mappa.mundi.net/locus/ @ An Internet Prayer Wheel: http://mappa.mundi.net/cartography/Wheel/ $ iButton - take data anywhere: http://www.ibutton.com/ibuttons/index.html @
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-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CobolMage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS GOD AND THE SCIENTISTS: A NEW DEBATE, AN OLD QUESTION Atheism/"secular humanism"/agnosticism (the dividing lines are often rather vague) constitutes a sort of dogma for many prominent scientists...so much so that for a scientist to be accepted by his/her peers, s/he must publicly disavow "organized religion"-- a process closely akin to the old loyalty oath. Do you have any evidence to back up this contention? I ask because the scientists I personally know best - a physicist and a geologist [both public university professors] and a botanist and an orbital systems researcher [both employed by corporations] are all non- doctrinaire mainline Protestant churchgoers. None has suffered at the hands of their peers that I know of - two are department heads - they work, they publish, they're accorded professional respect, and they neither vociferously include nor exclude their beliefs from their work. Indeed, I'm told that the field of petroleum geology attracts a number of fundy jeezoids, who manage to stay employed despite the rather sharp division between a literal interpretation of Genesis and modern geophysics. IMHO, the notion that the "perfect scientist" is an atheist, is just another myth, or is a best a drastic oversimplification of attitudes in US, western and worldwide scientific communities. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990825d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No virtual gardens were nurtured during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Programmer Reaches His Xanadu. 30-years in development: the source code for Xanadu, an ambitious attempt to build a multi-dimensional hypertext system that in many ways parallels the Web, has been released by Internet visionary and enigma Ted Nelson. And not a moment too soon: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21430.html : What's the difference between a clear vision and a direct path? Have you ever built a Dream Machine? What's your place in the cyberunderworld? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Tele-garden Cultivates Cooperation. You can control all kindsa appliances, cameras, radio scanners, and robots remotely via the Internet. The Ars Electronica Center has set up a cyber garden equipped with a robot camera that you control with a click. Become a member for free, and you'll have the privilege of being able to water, seed, and care for the garden via other remotely controlled robots. The garden is divided into hundreds of sectors, and you can guide the camera and the watering/seeding robot to any of them. D'ya have a silicon thumb? http://telegarden.aec.at/ : Do you prefer real or virtual gardens? Are virtual pesticides hazardous? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ Aryan Graphics Factory We supply graphics designs, logos and slogans for White Nationalists, White Pride, NS, Patriots, Militia, and Klansmen world wide FREE OF CHARGE (as long as the project furthers the victory over the Jewish Anti-White enemies.) The Jews have voted this site "THE WORLD'S MOST ANTI-JEWISH SOFTWARE SITE": http://www.whitepower88.com/jew-rats" : Does hate soften/harden the brain? Is hatred implanted by demons, deities, aliens, mind-controllers? Do you hate? Are you an evolutionary throwback?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Wilhelm Reich's Contact With Space. On 1954, Wilhelm Reich "happened accidentally to observe two bright yellow-orange lights moving in front of a mountain range toward a lake." The encounter was the opening salvo of a "war" with UFOs that would occupy the final phases of Reich's troubled medical and scientific career. http://www.space.com/area51/reich_816.html : Was Reich persecuted, assassinated, brilliant, insane, misled, tricked, on fire, sexy, abducted, implanted, devious, manipulative? How can you tell?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ MORE REACTION TO KANSAS DECISION ON EVOLUTION TEACHING. (ScienceWeek) What is sometimes not emphasized enough in discussions of the conflict between science and creationism is that the logical foundations of these two ways of viewing the world are quite different. Now, in an unsigned editorial, one of the leading science journals (_Nature_) discusses the difference between science and dogma, suggesting that scientists and science teachers can draw useful lessons from the efforts in Kansas to expel Charles Darwin from the state's schools. The editorial states: "In removing the teaching of evolution, as well as aspects of cosmology, from its curriculum guidance for school students, the Kansas Board of Education has done no favors to the schoolchildren of Kansas or to the national and international reputation of their state." Further: "If more children were taught science as a means of interrogating nature, rather than as a toolbox of rules, the 'debate' between creationism and Darwinism would come to be seen in a clearer light. Darwin's theory will continue to be attacked and will develop on the strength of new information established by geneticists, paleontologists and others. The idea of divine creation is unlikely to benefit from such further investigation because it is not scientific theory, but a dogma." (NAT) : Can dogma be rational? Can rationality be dogmatic? Can cretinists evolve? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ PRIVACY NEWS # DOJ Says "Let us enter your homes and disable encryption!". Trust us: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/daily/aug99/encryption20.htm # Online Ads Track More Than You Know - your every move goes into their files: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C40728%2C00.html?sas.mail # Ecommerce? Sorry, You Forgot the Trust. Lack of trust is the main obstacle to mass acceptance of ecommerce. A privacy policy alone ain't enough. http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article/0,1087,4_183221,00.html http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21319.html http://news.excite.com/news/bw/990817/ny-jupiter# # Levi's: Jeans or Genes??? At its new flagship store set to open shortly in San Francisco, Levi's will be using biometrics to profile users. Updated profiles will be sent each day to the Levi's data warehouse, where data mining programs get to work, creating
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990824a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No kissing cousins were separated during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Thais seek eco-friendly cremations. BANGKOK (AP) Autos choking Bangkok's streets may create the largest problem for the crowded city's pollution- control efforts, but another problem is generated by cremations. Spurred by complaints from families living near Buddhist temple/crematoria, the gov't is preparing anti-pollution laws that include mandatory installation of smoke-clearing gear in chimneys. Cremations conclude the vast majority of funerals in predominantly Buddhist Thailand. An aging crematorium at a Bangkok temple has been the source of numerous complaints. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560834619-8fd : Does your belief subsystem mandate any specific manner of disposal? D'ya wanna be buried, burnt, launched into space? D'ya wanna be eaten by worms, crocodiles, flesh-eating bacteria, starving refugees, aliens, robots, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Integrated Circuits the Size of Molecules. "In ten years potentially, we will have entire computers not just in your wrist watch, but woven into our clothing. Or a slurry of computers painted on your wall." The manufac- turing process of this may very well be like making something like photo- graphic film. It's very complex, but essentially it's all chemistry. Much cheaper and almost infinitely more powerful than current semiconductors, and totally programmable - see http://www.earthfiles.com/earth061.htm : Would you rather have your dirt-cheap supercomputers embedded in a credit card, or woven into your clothes, or embedded in your body? D'ya want video fibers woven into your skin so you become your own display? D'ya want shirts that're smarter than you? Will genius shoes rebel at being walked on? How?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Muslim vs. Muslim lawsuit. LOS ANGELES (AP) A Muslim aerospace engineer is suing her former boss at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, saying he stif- led her career because of his own Islamic beliefs on the role of women. In the suit, Iranian immigrant Shahzad Khaligh claims Fred Hadaegh repeatedly stated his belief that Muslim women "should not become independent human beings." Hadaegh also tried to thwart Khaligh's efforts to present techni- cal papers at conferences and refused to sign her tuition reimbursement forms. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560837296-56b # Jordan group seeks to protect women. AMMAN (AP) A human rights group laun- ched a public campaign against a widespread practice in Jordan of beating and killing women who are perceived to have shamed their families. This is the first public effort to demand rights for women in this conservative, tribal-oriented society where men have the final say in family matters and women's opinions are usually considered unimportant. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560836224-1fe : Does your belief system devalue women, men, children, aliens, animals, me? Is y'r belief system unworthy of civilized entities? Are other faiths worse? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # PCP, cocaine vaccination eyed. NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Designer antibodies may someday be used to immunize people against cocaine other drugs to block the rush that users crave. If these vaccines fulfill their promise, they could revolutionize emergency treatment for PCP and amphetamines. Kill the fun: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560837811-100 # Talks with alcoholics cut injuries. BOSTON (AP) - A brief talk with hospi- talized injury patients about their drinking problems dramatically reduced their risk of getting injured again, a study has found. Talk away the risk: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560832776-eb3 : Would you rather be counseled or vaccinated against consuming you favorite substances? How do you like to have your mind controlled? What works best?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # China Markets Mao as Tourist Icon - Commies Go ultra-Capitalist: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560837761-a28 # Journey of Faith - Mormon Changes Skin, Goes Papist: http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,115004585,00.html # HOPE FOR MORE MIRACLES FADING IN TURKEY - Minister warns of acid rain: http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9908/23/turkey.quake.02/ @ Nostradamus Strikes Again: http://kingofterror.theunusual.net # UFO Sightings Increase In Eastern US, Canada and Brazil: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/flyers82399.htm @ A little shake of Shakerism might be nice: http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,115004587,00.html # Y2K - US Navy Denies It Expects Y2K Failures:
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990824b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No creationist thought evolved during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Nothing can eclipse its beauty. (BBC) A Norfolk gardener is blaming the eclipse for the early opening of his stunning blooms. Ya, u-betcha: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_428000/428802.stm @ Links: Epiphyllum oxypetalum: http://www.epiuniverse.com/NightBloom.htm # Also: Wildlife fooled by double dawn: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_417000/417679.stm # And: Total eclipse. Total coverage: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_415000/415227.stm : Will the eclipse stories never end? How long can I keep milking this? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Anti-gay site goes back to rightful owners. (CNN) As slowly as it came, the road to love veered back to hate on an anti-gay Web site run by Pastor Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas. http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/23/hack.folo/index.html @ SITES: MindSprung: http://www.mindsprung.com/ @ Godhatesfags.com: http://www.godhatesfags.com/ @ GodLovesFags.com: http://www.godlovesfags.com/ : Do you love/hate fags? Are you god? If god hates fags, why'd she make so many of'em? If god loves fags, why'd she make so many fag-haters? Why o why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CARL SAGAN: HIS IDEAS WEREN'T ALL THAT WAS HIGH. In light of George Bush's problems with his past drug use, I know some folks will be shocked to hear that the astronomer Carl Sagan (a hero of mine) was an avid pot smoker. He even credited it with intellectual inspiration - which certainly goes against the belief that pot makes people less ambitious. Pass that joint - http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15738 : Would you rather be inspired by herbs, aliens, mindcontrol rays, religious fantasies, neurotoxins, me? D'ya need to smoke pot to be indolent? Do hyper- alert folks need cannabis to cool their brains off enough to write it down?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'Scared mouse' joins medical models. Scientists added a "scared mouse" to the group of gene-altered rodents used to understand and treat human ills. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_428000/428219.stm # Making a pig's eye of it. (BBC) Vets have saved the sight of a German shepherd dog using material made from a pig's gut. But the simile fails: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_428000/428272.stm : Would you frighten a mouse in order to save yourself? D'ya wanna be saved by scared rats, eviscerated pigs, me? Would you rather dissect an ET alien?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SPERM COUNTS DROPPING DRAMATICALLY. UK scientists are set to carry out the biggest-ever study of male reproductive health, including why sperm counts across the globe appear to be falling dramatically. Scottish men asked to volunteer - see: http://cnn.com/HEALTH/men/9908/23/sperm.britain.reut/ and: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_426000/426626.stm @ Link: Reproductive Health Study: http://www.med.ed.ac.uk/hew/repro/ : Would you volunteer to have your sperm counted? Are sperm being stolen by Reptilioids/Republicans, demons/deities, robots, me? Did yours go missing? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Lost childhood of the 'stolen generation'. (BBC) Aboriginal survivors of Australia's assimilation policy bear the scars of their childhood during which they were wrenched from their families and culture. Child abuse: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_416000/416226.stm @ Links: Aboriginal Reconciliation Council: http://www.austlii.edu.au/car/ @ Human Rights and Equal Opportunities Comm: http://www.hreoc.gov.au/ @ Commission's report on the stolen children: http://www.hreoc.gov.au/social_justice/stolen_children/index.html : Would you rather have your children abducted by humans, extraterrestrials, robots, demons/deities, me? Have you taken any kids lately? For good reason? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ % MINISTRY WATCH @ Lambert Dolphin The Great Sphinx - The Edgar Cayce Connection: http://watch.pair.com/dolphin.html @ Methodists Worship God the Mother - The Shekhinah: http://watch.pair.com/shekhinah.html @ Southern Baptist Convention - Freemasons the Jesus Seminar: http://watch.pair.com/sbc.html @ Bible Study Fellowship - A Closer Look: http://watch.pair.com/bsf.html @ Contemporary Christian Music - Lambs to the Slaughter: http://watch.pair.com/ccm.html @ Youth With a Mission - Moral Government Theology: http://watch.pair.com/YWAM.html @ The Promise Keepers Movement: http://watch.pair.com/promise.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # How not to handle a network outage: http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/23/network.nono.idg/index.html # Y2K fears
Re: [CTRL] Second ex-Roche exec to be jailed in US vitamins probe
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Ronald L. Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONGRESS WOULD ALL BE IN JAIL IF THEY WERE HELD TO THESE STANDARDS. THE FIRST AMENDMENT SHOULD CRIMINALIZE, FINE AND JAIL POLITICIANS, BUREAUCRATS AND GOVERNMENT WORKERS WHO ACCEPT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS, JOBS AFTER "SERVICE", OR ANYTHING ELSE IN EXCHANGE FOR "FAVORS" ADVERSE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE There's nothing in the Constitution about NOT bribing elected/ appointed officials or gov't employees, so the Founders must not have wanted to cut off such supplemental income, eh? Yup, bribery is constitutional. AND WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING?!?!? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990824c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No evolutionary theories were created during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ET Life, Pancakes, Witchcraft Hot Subjects On College Campus. Hot subjects on the modern campus include witchcraft, magic, and extraterrestrial life. An even hotter craze is "food studies," which appeal strongly to students who like to eat and chat about it in classes that are hard to flunk: http://www.usnews.com:80/usnews/issue/990830/30john.htm : Would you rather study economics, software/electrical engineering, foods, ETs, witches, me? Which are the best career choices; the most fun; insane? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # NASA Launches Project To Install Internet Across Solar System. It doesn't take a crazy leap of imagination to consider the solar system sprinkled with astronauts in the coming century. There may be a permanent base on Luna, mining projects in the asteroid belt, a fledgling colony on Mars, and exploratory robotic spacecraft probing Venus, Pluto and the moons of Saturn Jupiter. An unanswered question is how will all these pioneering outposts communicate with each other and with folks back home on Earth. WorldsWide Web, of course: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/internet.htm : Will the NASA-Net interfere with existing Reptoid and Gray nets? How long will you wait to connect to a server on Uranus? Is venus.com still x-rated? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Biocomputer uses living nerve cells to calculate. A successful experiment in Atlanta uses nerve cells from leeches, connected to electronic devices to do simple addition. The union of electronics with biological nerves is still very primitive, but it promises a fascinating future. Soulful? 199.97.97.16/contWriter/cnd7/1999/08/22/cndin/5741-0215-pat_nytimes.html : What are the legal rights of living computers? Does their use constitute enslavement? Do all artificial intelligences/lifeforms have rights too?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Thai monk defies arrest. (BBC) Thousands of followers of a controversial Thai monk gather at his temple in Bangkok to try and stop his arrest on fraud and embezzlement charges. They rather enjoy being taken for fools. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_428000/428838.stm @ Links: Bhuddanet: http://www.buddhanet.net/ @ Dhammakaya Foundation: http://www.dhammakaya.th.org/ @ Thai Ministry of Education: http://www.moe.go.th/moe.html : Who's your favorite monk? Do you support the leaders of your belief system generously? Are they more/less/as entertaining as TV, cinema, punk rock, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # In Spite Of 11 Million Dead, Many Africans Think AIDS Is A Hoax. There is no such thing as AIDS and that millions of Africans aren't dying of it. "Africa is the target of the world AIDS cartel. They want to pin it on us, to destroy us with it... What we call AIDS is actually U.S. biological warfare gone wrong." Ignore health warnings, don't wear condoms, fuck freely: http://www.pioneerplanet.com/seven-days/1/news/docs/024406.htm : Are all STDs [sexually transmitted diseases] hoaxes? Have you engineered any biowar STDs lately? Have you engineered any hoaxes lately? Having fun? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Man, 112, Says Ditch Sex, Live Longer. JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) South African Nicklaas Amsterdam Monday celebrated his 112th birthday, vowing that a life without sex had worked wonders for him. Ya sure, by golly: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990824/08/odd-life-sex : Would you trade sexuality for immortality? Would your rather fuck or live? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ % BIBLE VERSIONS @ The Nineteenth Century Occult Revival - The Legacy of Westcott Hort: http://watch.pair.com/occult.html @ Another Bible ~ Another Gospel - Letters of B.F. Westcott F.J.A. Hort: http://watch.pair.com/another.html @ Tables of Comparison of Selected Scriptures - KJV ~ ERV ~ NASB ~ NIV ~ NJKV: http://watch.pair.com/scriptures.html @ The Semitic New Testament - The Syriac Peshitta: http://watch.pair.com/peshitta.html @ Erasmus The Textus Receptus - Questions Answers: http://watch.pair.com/erasmus.html @ The Message - The Mystical Bible: http://watch.pair.com/message.html @ Daemonologie by King James I - A Treatise on Witchcraft: http://watch.pair.com/daemon.html @ Bible Version Updates: http://watch.pair.com/bibleup.html @ His Magesty King James VI I: http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/kinginde.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Recent UFO Sightings From Scotland: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/scot.htm # UK: Mad Cow Storage Risks: http://sightings.com/politics4/mdstorage.htm # 20th Century - Shaped By Blood War http://sightings.com/politics4/20.htm # 20th Cent.Tech - Hero Villain: http://sightings.com/politics4/tech.htm # Get
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 99-08-23 00:21:13 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And your characterizations about scientific paradigms are absurd and totally inaccurate. Scientists make their reputations by squashing old paradigms,not worshipping them - by establishing new paradigms, not abjuring them. You've never read a scientific journal, have you? Capital B Baloney. You obviously have not studied Thomas Kuhn's "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions," which describes -- and cites numerous examples of -- the very opposite. As a rule, paradigms in science change only when the old-fart "authorities" who stubbornly, in defiance of reason, defend them --exactly like medieval theologians emotionally over-invested in DOGMAS, as a matter of FAITH-- finally die off -- giving way to a younger generation not so much entrenched in fossilized, by-now dubious beliefs. Kuhn was entertaining, but is irrelevant in a world of instantaneous communications. Anyone paying the slightest attention to the physical, biological and cognitive sciences would note scads of paradigm shifts in the last decade. Virtually EVERY technical book more than a couple years old is OBSOLETE - THAT shows how fast paradigms shift in science. Read some of the sci.* newsgroups to get a taste of reality. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2 - godhatesfags.com
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Circus Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Anti-gay site goes back to rightful owners. (CNN) As slowly as it came, the road to love veered back to hate on an anti-gay Web site run by Pastor Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas. http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/23/hack.folo/index.html @ SITES: MindSprung: http://www.mindsprung.com/ @ Godhatesfags.com: http://www.godhatesfags.com/ @ GodLovesFags.com: http://www.godlovesfags.com/ : Do you love/hate fags? Are you god? If god hates fags, why'd she make so many of'em? If god loves fags, why'd she make so many fag- haters? Why o why? How do I contact god? I wish to ask god, what does god love or hate. Does god have a Email address? How does Fred contact god? Through Email, or the voice that talks to his head. Fred needs to share how he can talk to god so I can try doing same, as I need some unclear information cleared up here, on this end. Fred needs to share his contact with god so all of us can talk to god. Pastor's are suppose to help their layman. So I am putting this request out to Fred. I wish to talk to your god, in person like you do. Just to clear up the confusion - Pastor Fred deals with the fag.hating god; Mister Haight deals with the fag.loving god; others may deal with the don't.give.a.shit god, the kill.me.a.son god, the kill.me.a.navajo god, the lysdexic dog, the i'm.schizo.and.so.am.i god, the say.what.huh? god, the let's.all.get.naked.and.screw god, the cut.that.shit.out god, the work.it.out.among.yourselves god, and/or any of the multitudes of other gods that humans have constructed. Some are online, some aren't. Since, in my capacity as leader of The Church Of The Otters [t'CotO], I have proclaimed that every living entity in the universe is divine, I've felt it incumbent to provide a contact point for all deities. You can reach every god at this fax number: 603-415-3736 [but some gods may not get back to you right away - be patient.] I am also accepting donations in the names of all gods in the universe - send your offerings to: PO Box 888, Forestville CA 95436 USA BTW the small.UFO.god would like to thank Doug Keachie for his recent contribution of a petite Mexican UFO - it was very tasty. Yum. * Rev.RN.Carter, ULC, t'CotO * DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990824d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No dwarves were crushed during production of this bulletin. What a waste. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'Crush Videos' Decried! (UPI) Micro-actor Mickey Rooney joined politics animal activists to decry what are being called "crush videos," a type of pornography in which women wearing boots or open toed shoes crush small animals and insects beneath their feet. At a news conference today, Rooney displayed photos showing women in stiletto high heels squashing a mouse, rabbit and what appeared to be a guinea pig or hamster. "It's deplorable," Rooney squeaked. Then a tall woman wearing a black sheath dress and combat boots squished him. http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=105842 : Do you like to squish things? Would you like to be squished? Do the voices in your head insist? Did you ever squish an alien? Was it really an alien?? What's the difference between squishing squashing? Can you only squi(a)sh something *really* small if you're wearing stiletto heels? Is impaling okay? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ TRUTH ABOUT UFOs. On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:39:22 GMT, in alt.paranet.ufo Sheppard Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. I am ALWAYS right. 2. UFOs are mis-identified objects from Earth, nothing unusual. 3. There are no conspiracies, only idiots who believe in them. 4. Roswell didn't happen. 5. This newsgroup is a waste of time. 6. True believers also enjoy professional wrestling (and think its real). 7. The Tooth Fairy and Santa Clause are also frauds. 8. Booze and Drugs play an important part in being a believer. 9. UFO stories are like assholes, every believer has one. 10. If in doubt, refer to number 1. : Do you know The Truth? If so, would you tell anyone? Would we believe you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Reform leader stated Western Wall is not holy. According to Rabbi Yehoram Maoz, a leading figure in the Reform Movement, the Western Wall in the Old City of Jerusalem is not holy and therefore, he would not chose the site for religious events. In response, Rabbi Uri Regev of the Center for Pro- gressive Judaism stated that abandoning the wall would be a mistake and interpreted as conceding defeat to "ultra-Orthodox thugs." Ultra-Orthodox gloat: http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_24item=#935518727 : Do members of your belief subsystem and competing subsystems battle over holy sites? Have you desecrated any holy sites lately? Did any deity notice? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # School Board Reverses Decision on Star of David. (AP) A school board has overturned its controversial decision that prevented a Jewish student from wearing a Star of David necklace to school. The Harrison County (Miss.) School Board voted unanimously to exempt religious symbols from its policy prohibiting students from wearing anything that could be viewed as a gang symbol. http://www.cnn.com/US/9908/24/miss.star.of.david.ap/ : Are your religious icons actually gang symbols? Is your religion a gang? Is your gang religious? Do Reptoids back you up with firepower, explosives? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Israel's queen bees shipped to Arab world. Israel recently exported 1000 queen bees, which produce honey on a much larger scale than ordinary bees, to Arab countries including Jordan, Lebanon, and several others, including some with which Israel has no trade relations. With the success of this unique type of export, a second shipment, containing hundreds of queen bees and ordinary bees, will be made in upcoming months to neighboring countries. http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_24item=#935518561 : Would you genetically-modify agricultural products to infiltrate into your adversaries? How subtle are your biowar techniques, strategies, campaigns?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Web is 'shrinking'. (BBC) The World Wide Web, widely thought of as an endless cornucopia of choice, appears to be shrinking. I'm mel-l-l-ting... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_428000/428999.stm # Also: Football is big Net draw (that's 'Soccer' to Yankees): http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_422000/422140.stm # Internet is 'under-hyped' (which is a big surprise to us): http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_369000/369835.stm : How small can the WWWeb shrink before it disappears completely? Is the Web disappearing into a black hole? Is it being abducted by aliens? Is it sick? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ DISCUSSIONS REGARDING KOSOVO, ALBANIA, TREATIES, WAR, SERBS, KLA. The war in Kosovo gave many folks a chance to voice their ideologies. The expected condemnation of raping and killing women and children appears, though the more interesting conversations are those that span the world with points of view from
Re: [CTRL] HORRORS The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, this new generation (20-30 year olds) has nothing I know to recommend it -- NO LEADERS -- no verve -- no ARTISTS -- no muscicians -- young people now are compliant, totally ball- less in terms of revolution. If there will be any kind of revolution it will have to start with old farts, but then again that's how the first American revolution started ... old men with different ideas. Depends on how you define 'old'. As I recall, the average age of the signers of the Declaration of Independence was 29. A notable history is titled YOUNG MEN OF THE REVOLUTION. If think the US Revolution was perpetrated by "old farts", please present evidence to back up that idea. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1 - body/spirit
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# Naked ghosts scaring Iraqi drivers. BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Ghost stories are
pretty common around the old Iraqi city of Haditha. Still, when the ghosts
start dancing naked in front of oncoming motorists, it makes quite a stir.
Drivers passing through Horan Valley outside the town of Haditha, 135 mi.
northeast of Baghdad, reported that "ghosts appeared next to the bridge,
naked and doing some acrobatic moves." Tales of ghosts in the Horan Valley
are common, but these ghosts were "throwing themselves before cars, caus-
ing the drivers to panic." Motorist Shawki Sabar said "they were almost
human - although I could not concentrate on their looks because I was so
scared and it was dark." And the opium/hashish mix was kicking in. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560814935-062
: Do you prefer ghosts naked, clothed, iridescent, neutral, garlanded, fat,
skinny, evanescent, stick-like? Do you prefer ghostly people or vice-versa??
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# Absence makes males pine away. BOSTON (AP) So who pines away longer, men
or women? Researchers say the more time spent apart after sex, the more
eager men were to copulate with their lovers again. But women don't feel
the same way - and it doesn't matter how much time has gone by since the
couple last fucked. In a survey, women were generally unaffected by separ-
ation. Men are unwittingly responding to an urge from way back in human
evolution: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560802947-207
: Are you lonely tonight? Do you miss me tonight? Are you sorry weve drifted
apart? Do you want to fuck again? Do you care that you're driving me mad??
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# Boys Programmed For Violence. BOSTON (AP) - Raising boys to be strong and
silent is promoting the outbreak of mass school shootings and a broader,
smoldering climate of despair among male teen-agers, experts suggest. "I
think we have a national crisis of boys in America." Psychologists resp-
onded to public concern over recent mass killings at schools, saying U.S.
boys are still reared largely in keeping with the traditional code of male
toughness, which encourages boys to take action but squelches expressions
of feeling and gestures of physical affection by and toward boys. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560805049-759
: Are you a US male? Are you programmed to kill? Who directed the culture to
instill violence into young males? Is this an ancient plot? Was is {JHWH}??
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# Lutherans reject gay pastors. DENVER (AP) The Evangelical Lutheran Church
in America rejected a bid to axe its policy barring actively homosexual
clergy. The denomination will continue to permit homosexual pastors who
agree to a celibate lifestyle. A report from five denominational agencies
said the 5.2-million member church should not shrink from "the sometimes
discomforting experience of looking anew at our inherited tradition." See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560814355-302
: Does your belief system embrace discomforting experiences? Do your dogmas
program violence into young men? Do your deities insist on such programming?
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@ http://newprayer.com/index.htm
No one can doubt the Power of Prayer.
How do we know if our prayers are heard?
What do we know about the location of GOD?
We know that GOD was at the birth of His universe.
We know how the universe began - with a 'Big Bang'.
We know Where the oldest part of the universe is located.
We can transmit radio messages to this precise location.
Why not transmit our prayers to where we know GOD resided?
NewPrayer has designed and built a directional radio transmitter.
For a small fee NewPrayer will transmit your prayers to this location.
: Would you rather contact your deities by radio, telephone, blinker lights,
signal flags, tom-toms, laser beams, xray pulses, gravitrons, hand gestures?
How do you locate your deities? Do you use a compass, kirlianscope, dice??
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ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE UK:
# One in five choose alternative medicine. (BBC) A fifth of the British
population uses alternative medicine, a survey for BBC Radio discovers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_426000/426432.stm
# Alternative medicine: Special report. (BBC) We examine the issues surroun-
ding alternative medicine as research shows they are increasingly popular.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_425000/425986.stm
# What is alternative medicine? (BBC) Not all practitioners agree on what
constitutes alternative - some deny there is
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2 - blinks links
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990823b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No emotional imbalances were upset during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Drunken Cop Crashes Car Into Aztec Temple. MEXICO CITY (Reuters) A drunken off-duty Mexican policeman crashed his car into the ruins of a temple in Mexico City's main square where the Aztecs practiced human sacrifice 500 years ago. Gods pissed: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990823/07/odd-crash : Did you deliberately/inadvertently/drunkenly desecrate a holy site lately? Were the deities displeased? Have they punished you yet? Do you yet breathe? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sagan smoked pot. SAN FRANCISCO (AP) The late astronomer/author Carl Sagan was a secret but avid cannabis user, crediting it with inspiring essays scientific insight. Using the pseudonym "Mr. X," Sagan wrote about his pot smoking in an essay in the 1971 book "Reconsidering Marijuana." See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560814058-a1f : Does cannabis inspire your scientific work? Does your knowledge system use natural mental stimulation effectively? Does your belief system dull you??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Stanford prof says poverty harms health of humans more than apes. Monkeys and apes may form a healthier society than humans, according to Biology Prof. Robert Sapolsky. http://news.excite.com/news/uw/990820/odd-17 : Are you impoverished, wealthy, middling? Is your society healthy? Are you human, hominid, primate, prosimian, alien? Can't we all just get along? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Free postage exchanged for personal profile. MIAMI (AP) Anyone willing to answer a few personal questions online may never have to pay for postage again. A firm will give Web surfers free pre-stamped envelopes in exchange for giving their consumer profile - including income level what kind of car they drive - to allow sponsors to target ads based on that person's tastes. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560828813-ea8 : How much would you sell your privacy for? How much have you sold it for already? Can you ever buy it back? Would your rather rent it, sell it, give it away, sell subscriptions, offer it to deities/demons/aliens/robots/me?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ How can you be so skinny when you live so phat? http://www.skinny.com # Y2K: Ready Or Not: http://www.boston.com/globe/business/packages/y2k/ @ Open Source: http://www.boston.com/technology/packages/opensource/ # Hundreds die in Nigeria ethnic violence: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560830477-aa0 # Serbs float plan to partition Kosovo along ethnic lines: http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9908/21/kosovo.02/index.html # Stalinists form political alliance, plot to take over world: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560822341-b1d # Swiss secret service head suspended - involved in creating secret army: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560826445-732 @ CIA MindControl-Related Front Groups: aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:547154 @ THE FINDERS: Mind Control Children: aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:547155 @ MindControl Projects: Past Present: aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:547163 @ U.S. Military Psy-Ops: aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:547165 @ Psychological Warfare: aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:547167 @ Who Is Behind the New World Order? aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:547195 # US State Department going after terrorists, and vice-versa: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560811665-668 # Sudan marks U.S. attack anniversary by opening two similar factories: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560800115-c5a # Iran's top judge dumps hard-liners - more moderate body forthcoming: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560807749-5a2 # Also: Iranian writer acquitted of slander, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560824019-ac9 @ The High Strangeness of Dimensions, Densities, and The Process of Alien Abduction: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/abduction_0.htm @ Including Men In Black aka Reptoids and other Bizarre Relations: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/abduction.htm @ Part II: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/abduction_1.htm @ Part III - A particular technology of 4th density needs to be understood and that is Transdimensional Remoleculariztion. This is a term introduced to us by the Cassiopaeans: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/abduction_2.htm # Kitsch roadside come-ons enthrall lovers of classic commercial design: http://cnn.com/US/9908/21/AM-SignificantlyTacky.ap/index.html # RESEARCHER SAYS LARGE STUDY OF INTERNET USE FINDS 6 PERCENT ARE ADDICTED: http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/23/internet.addiction.ap/index.html
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Monday #2 - blinks links
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Drunken Cop Crashes Car Into Aztec Temple. MEXICO CITY (Reuters) A drunken off-duty Mexican policeman crashed his car into the ruins of a temple in Mexico City's main square where the Aztecs practiced human sacrifice 500 years ago. Gods pissed: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990823/07/odd-crash : Did you deliberately/inadvertently/drunkenly desecrate a holy site lately? Were the deities displeased? Have they punished you yet? Can't you just see the following comment: "We'll just take down these heathen edifices one at a time" That's like the OKC bombing, part of the GOP plan to dismantle the US federal gov't, building by building... but I digress. Old heathen edifices are regularly dismantled in some lands, with the fragments sold to collectors for a good price. [cf. Angkor Wat] To this extent, old heathen edifices are like fossil fuels - once you've used'em up, they're gone. This of course can be countered by constantly fabricating NEW old heathen edifices, like at Disney- World or Universal Studios. NEW old relics can thus be constantly available for dismantling and sale, without the unpleasantness of disgruntling any vengeful deities. Ric "having a hell of a good time" Carter DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Monday #1 - body/spirit
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Absence makes males pine away. BOSTON (AP) So who pines away longer ... http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560802947-207 : Are you lonely tonight? Do you miss me tonight? Are you sorry we've drifted apart? Do you want to fuck again? Do you care that you're driving me mad?? Astute questioning. Of course, I now understand why there may be an issue of absence. That was my evil twin Sparky talking. bzzzt Damn implant... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HORRORS The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends on how you define 'old'. As I recall, the average age of the signers of the Declaration of Independence was 29. A notable history is titled YOUNG MEN OF THE REVOLUTION. If think the US Revolution was perpetrated by "old farts", please present evidence to back up that idea. Now would that search be: Farts of the old Republic; Revolutionary farts; Young men who farted during the revolution; or One small fart for man. One giant fart for the US... Yes. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #3
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# The Eclipse Turned My Face Yellow. LONDON - Doctors were swamped by false
alarms from worried sun-watchers who gazed at last week's eclipse. Only a
handful of people across the UK suffered eye damage but thousands more
called medicos with bizarre fears that they had been adversely affected.
http://www.yahoo.co.uk/headlines/19990820/drecord/p23s4_935186445.html
: Do eclipses change you physiologically, psychologically, neurologically?
Did you change color, gender, race, shape, species? Are you now a badger?
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@ NICETIES COMPLIMENTS, CHAT FANTASY/ROLE PLAYING. Regulars ("cuddlers")
post answers to questions of the day like "Who's Your Fave Cuddler Why?"
and "Describe Y'r Most Perfect Meal." Members give each other hugs/cuddles
and play in the meadow and sing sweet songs! It's like some strange mutant
hybrid of the Gummi Bears and The Twilight Zone. Zowie. news:alt.cuddle
: Are you cuddly? Are you gummi? Are you mutant? Do you crave attention? Did
you dismember teddy bears dolls when you were a kid? Did you burn them???
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# Gene causes infertility. (BBC) Scientists have discovered an abnormal gene
which sharply reduces sperm production and appears to cause infertility.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_425000/425775.stm
@ Links: ICSI: http://www.infertile.com/icsi.html
@ Monash Institute: http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/mai/index.htm
# Also: Fertility treatment linked to 'problem births':
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_347000/347173.stm
# And: Fertility technique 'may cause genetic defects':
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_308000/308197.stm
: If sterility is genetic, how is it transmitted? If y'r parents didn't have
kids, is it likely that you won't either? Do you inherit insanity from kids?
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# 1ST IMAGES FROM CHANDRA X-RAY SCOPE TO BE RELEASED. The first images from
NASA's humungous Chandra X-ray Observatory will be unveiled at a media
briefing at 1 pm EDT, Thursday, 26 Aug. in Washington, DC. Images include
the spectacular remnants of a supernova and other astronomical objects.
Chandra images and additional information will be available afterwards
at: http://chandra.nasa.gov and http://chandra.havard.edu
: What's your favorite X-Ray? What's your favorite telescope, your favorite
remnant, your favorite object? What are you expecting from Chandra? Why??
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@ Unseen Nixon Resignation Footage!! Now available on the Internet for a
very limited time. Footage of the 8 minutes BEFORE Richard Nixon went on
air to resign from the presidency in 1973. He is shown nervous, yelling,
and about to pick his nose. Tell your friends - we will only run this
footage for one week and never again. www.whiteboys.com
: Did voices in his head make Nixon commit crimes, resign, pick his nose? Is
there historic value to this kind of imagery? Do you have other sequences??
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# Afghan offers $113 for Clinton's head. ISLAMABAD. Abdul Rahim Muslim Dost,
an Afghan scholar in Peshawar, said "If anyone kills Clinton I will pay a
reward of five mln Afghanis ($113). If America sets the price of Osama Bin
Laden at $5 million, then we can set the price of the American President
at 5 million Afghanis" http://www.timesofindia.com/today/23worl12.htm
: Have you placed a price on anyone's head? Does your belief system promote
bounties? Who's head would you most like to have? How much would you pay??
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# Britain May Face Invasion Of Giant Grasshoppers. LONDON - Swarms of giant
grasshoppers could invade Britain from continental Europe and devour crops
gardens across the country. The "superhoppers", up to 12 cm (5 in) long
and eight times as hungry as most British grasshoppers, are usually found
in Spain and France but could spread thanks to global warming. Huge radio-
active ants are expected next: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/giantg.htm
: Would you rather be devoured by grasshoppers, ants, alligators, badgers,
Mormons, aliens, robots, me? Are crop circles created by programmed hoppers?
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SkeptiLinks:
@ THE UFO PUBLIC NUISANCE HALL OF FAME:
http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/1998/mar/m29-002.shtml
@ Virtual Mars Gallery: http://www.anomalous-images.com/mgs/virtualmars.html
@ They're Watching You, They're Watching Me: http://www.atc.army.mil/~dugway
@ The Internet Spykit: http://spykit.hypermart.net
# DEPRESSION IS COMMON IN SCHIZOPHRENIA PATIENTS. Depression shows in about
1/4 of schizophrenic patients, is associated with a poor outcome and long-
term
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ric Carter writes: You may believe what you wish, but evolutionary biology is supported by a vast amount of data - it's the best, most usable model we have thus far. If you have a better explanation, one that's testable and more inclusive and parsimonious, please whip it out. I do not believe I have ever heard of Darwin's theory being put to the test. I have not read of anyone putting nonorganic chemicals in a bell jar and creating organic life . That would be a true test of the theory. You are confusing evolution [the survival of change over time, driven by mechanisms such as (but not limited to) natural selection], with abiogenesis [the origin of life from non-living components]. The deliberate muddying of these two separate subjects is a favorite tactic of creationists and other sophists. Evolution has been observed, can be observed in any microbiology lab, is indisputable; the mechanisms of evolution are still debatable, and our understanding of the processes of biological evolution continues to evolve; but evolution happens. Similarly, gravity exists; there is a lively debate over the mechanisms of gravity - curved space? graviton particles and anti-particles? - but as with biological evolution, there's no doubt that gravity happens. Arguing against biological evolution is about as useful as arguing against gravity. Abiogenesis also exists, as been replicated in labs, in work going back 45 years and continuing today. Urey and Miller showed in 1954 that the chemicals necessary for life can arise in nonbiological environments - no deities or aliens need be invoked. Priogene showed in 1976 that prebiological chemicals self-organize into more complex systems; and other chaos/complexity researchers since then have shown that systems tend to self-organize into greater complexity, given an input of energy - no deities or aliens are necessary. And a German team reported a few weeks ago of non- living organic structures organizing into reproducing entities - artificial life. Abiogenesis happens. Your argument is bogus. The mathematical probability of this happening is astronomical to say the least: "Everything is unlikely, yet things happen anyway." (me) Arguing against the unliklihood of abiogenesis is a favorite tactic of cretinists and other sophists, to instill confusion about the laws of large numbers. The probability that the sum-over-time of ALL events in history have occurred so as to give rise to ANY current event is vanishingly small. But somehow, events manage to occur. MIRACLE!! MIRACLE!! Nope - given enough events, things happen. And things tend to happen in more and more complex ways, simply because there's a lower bound on simplicity but no upper bound on complexity. That complex systems arise from semi-random processes is surprising only to those who don't pay attention. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cycles and Freedom
The addition of an auxiliary motor to a workbike represents an old wish. We might note that the both the Ford Motor and Harley-Davidson Motorcycle Companies emmerged from bicycle technology. The very first Ford motorcar from the late 19th century bore the name "Quadricycle", shod with four, spoked, bicycle wheels. Adding a motor, even a fashionable electric one or one of some unknown futuristic exotic technology, is to repeat an evolutionary path first successfully crossed over a hundred years ago. If we truely need an auto-mobile for passive transport, there exist many finely-crafted, highly-evolved products (e.g., cars, trucks, motorcycles, et.al.). Auxiliary, artifical power sources on an HPV shine when they serve the same function of mercy as does a crutch or wheelchair -- or morphine. They restore freedom and dignity to the infirm who otherwise have lost self-mobility. Mentally, spritually and physically healthy human beings do not need crutches in order to thrive. Please seriously concider the following thoughts penned by Ivan Illich in the early 1970's. He reflects on the profound miracle of a simple bicycle; "The energy crisis cannot be overwhelmed by more energy inputs. It can only be dissolved, along with the illusion that well-being depends on the number of energy slaves a man has at his command." snip "DEGREES OF SELF-POWERED MOBILITY "A century ago, the ball-bearing was invented. It reduced the coefficient of friction by a factor of a thousand. By applying a well-calibrated ball-bearing between two Neolithic millstones, a man could now grind in a day what took his ancestors a week. The ball-bearing also made possible the bicycle, allowing the wheel---probably the last of the great Neolithic inventions---finally to become useful for self-powered mobility. "Man, unaided by any tool, gets around quite efficiently. He carries one gram of his weight over a kilometer in ten minutes by expending 0.75 calories. Man on his feet is thermodynamically more efficient than any motorized vehicle and most animals. For his weight, he performs more work in locomotion than rats or oxen, less than horses or sturgeon. At this rate of efficiency man settled the world and made its history. At this rate peasant societies spend less than 5 per cent and nomads less than 8 per cent of their respective social time budgets outside the home or the encampment. "Man on a bicycle can go three or four times faster than the pedestrian, but uses five times less energy in the process. He carries one gram of his weight over a kilometer of flat road at an expense of only 0.15 calories. The bicycle is the perfect transducer to match man's metabolic energy to the impedance of locomotion. Equipped with this tool, man outstrips the efficiency of not only all machines but all other animals as well." To enjoy reading the fascinating full text of "Energy and Equity" please refer to the following URL: http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ira/illich/texts/energy_and_equity/energy_and_equity.html Cheers, John Snyder
[CTRL] Cycles and Survival
I've often assumed that past a certain age, a workbike operator like myself would become too feeble and have to retire. I noticed, however, in the chapter on Beijing operators in Tony Wheeler's "Chasing Rickshaws" that many of the operators there looked rather elderly. (I'm assuming one reason they keep working in China is they simply can't afford NOT to.) Then a friend of mine gave me the following article from the 7/17/1999 edition of the Omaha World-Herald: Secret to Long Life? Pedal, Pedal, Pedal Hanoi, Vietnam (AP) - Pham Quang Giang pedals 25 miles a day and hasn't seen a doctor in 34 years - not bad for a 95-year old who spends much of his time maneuvering through Hanoi's chaotic traffic. He doesn't have to work. In fact, his 12 surviving children would be happy to support him. But Giang chooses to be independent, so his legs keep pumping away at his "cyclo," Vietnams three-wheel bicycle taxi. Family members have sold his cyclo three times since 1985. Rejecting their advice he should take it easy, he asked them to buy it back each time. "I don't want to rely on them. As long as I can work, I will," Giang said, a broad smile showing off all his own teeth in a face with few wrinkles. Giang has been married four times. He has a 72-year old son and a 30-year-old daughter among his 16 children--four were killed in action in the wars against the French and the Americans. And he has 101 grandchildren and great-grandchildren. In 1981 at age 77, Giang made a 1,100-mile trip on his cyclo from Ho Chi Minh City to Hanoi. It took two months and 11 days. His trips are much shorter these days, but he said passengers trust him because old cyclo drivers have a reputation for being careful. "Sometimes passengers feel sorry for me, but then they see me pedaling, and they say they made a wrong judgment" he said. Asked the secrets for his longevity and good shape, Giang said he has none except: "Always stay happy and be optimistic. You should wipe from your mind all things that may bother you" Born in 1904 in the central province of Quang Nam, Giang grew up in a poor fishing and farming village. He joined the army of the then French colony at 29 but shifted to the Viet Minh, the communist revolutionary army, in 1945. He moved to communist North Vietnam in 1955, a year after the Geneva agreement that divided the country, and worked as a state employee until his retirement in l965 as a manager at a beer company in Hanoi. The city government gave Giang a cyclo in 1978 as a means to support his newly adopted three orphans. He used it to deliver beer, which was rationed to some State-owned food stores around the capital. When rationing ended, he shifted to passengers in the mid-1980s as Vietnam began moving to a market economy. Giang now lives with his fourth wife and two sons. His day starts at 5 a.m. with exercise and meditation followed by a shower and breakfast. He then heads to the main railway station at 8 a.m. to wait for passengers. He has lunch at a sidewalk restaurant and returns home around 6 p.m. On average, he earns the equivalent of $36 a month--not bad in a country where the per-capita income is less than $30 a month. Giang said he occasionally is stopped by police for using streets where cyclos are banned, but they let him go after seeing the age on his I.D. (The article had a few picture of Mr. Giang, one showing him doing his morning stretches, the other carrying a passenger in his cyclo. I'd be glad to e-mail them to whomever is interested.) -jim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jim Gregory Joan Stein Bikes At Work, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] 216 N. Hazel Ames, IA 50010-5948 515-233-6120 providers of bicycle delivery services equipment since 1991 http://www.bikesatwork.com
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990822a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No disembodied spirits manifested during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ALIEN PROGRAMMING SCRIPTS. There are many scripts for Alien programming. Recent novels and Hollywood movies provide a non-ending pool of resources for the Programmers. Visual reality headgear other high-tech methods can easily be incorporated into an "alien abduction" theme. The following are samples of some people, who on one level knew they needed help, but didn't know just why they felt uneasy: http://islandnet.com/~persewen/aliens.htm : Have you been abducted? Have you been programmed? Do you follow a script? Is your script fictional, reality-based, cinema-verite, a documentary? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The Origins of the Illuminati. Not much has been said about the origins of the Illuminati. Some researchers trace the origins the Bavarian Illuminati in the 1700's, but this secret organization goes way back. The Illuminati can be traced back at least 4000 years, but the first Order wasn't fully established until the Babylonian era, around 1000 BC. So around 4000 years ago the original Brotherhood was infiltrated. The plans were made already during the Sumerian era: http://www.islandnet.com/~persewen/origins.htm : How ancient is your conspiracy? If you've been around that long, why don't you own the world yet? Are you incompetent, unlucky, stupid, insane, driven? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control- led Slave. THE 12 MAJOR SCIENCES OF MONARCH MIND-CONTROL: I. SELECTION PREPARATION OF THE VICTIM. II. TRAUMATIZATION TORTURE OF THE VICTIM. III. USE OF DRUGS. IV. USE OF HYPNOSIS. V. THE SKILL OF LYING, THE ART OF DECEIT. VI. USE OF ELECTRICITY ELECTRONICS. VII. ENGINEERING STRUCTURING OF AN MPD SYSTEM. VIII. BODY MANIPULATION PROGRAMMING. IX. MIND MANIPULATION BY PSYCHOLOGICAL PROGRAMMING METHODS: BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION NLP. X. SPIRITUAL CONTROL TECHNIQUES, POSSESSION TRANCES, ETC. XI. INTERNAL CONTROLS. XII. EXTERNAL CONTROLS. http://mercury.spaceports.com/~persewen/table_of_contents.htm : What are your favorite mind-control techniques? Do you have many slaves? Do they serve you sexually, politically, economically? So why are you here? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ STRONG CONSPIRACY - THE ONE WORLD RELIGION: @ The United Religions Organization: http://watch.pair.com/UR.html @ The A.D. 2000 United Prayer Track: http://watch.pair.com/track.html @ The Latter Rain Revival: http://watch.pair.com/rain.html @ A Sacred Assembly of Men: http://watch.pair.com/asa.html @ Cosmic Christmas: http://watch.pair.com/cosmic.html @ Reversal of Reformation Day: http://watch.pair.com/reformation.html : What's your favorite religion? Are all religions coalescing, fragmenting, doing whatever the hell they want, centrally controlled, insane, random?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SCI-SPI: SCIENTIFIC SPECULATION, PREDICTION INVESTIGATION: @ In Search of the Philadelphia Experiment: An entertaining investigation of truth behind this story of teleporting U.S. Navy ships during World War 2: http://www.ecafe.org/~hal/philadelphia @ The ROSWELL resource center: Did a UFO crash in New Mexico in 1947? Is there film evidence for the dissection of alien corpses? All the best evidence: http://ds.dial.pipex.com/ritson/scispi/roswell/index.htm @ The Face on Mars: The most notorious debate in planetory exploration revisited: http://ds.dial.pipex.com/ritson/scispi/mars/index.htm @ The search for Atlantis - "When the Earth nearly Died" http://ds.dial.pipex.com/ritson/scispi/atlantis/index.htm : What's your favorite speculation? Is your speculation supported by valid evidence? Is evidence irrelevant to your speculation? Do you have a life?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Paradigm Addiction: When a paradigm and its most ardent supporters are addicted to the paradigm to the point where they lose the realization that they are even in a paradigm at all, addiction to a paradigm results in either paradigm death or death of those who maintain the paradigm. http://www.trufax.org/paradigm/book.html : Are you addicted to your paradigm? Will it die soon? Will you? Would you rather kill adherents to other paradigms? Is ideological survival possible? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: $ Afraid of what hip hop will do to white America: www.whiteboys.com @ The Commission on Global Governance: http://www.cgg-ch.ae.psiweb.com/ @ Doomsday Every Day: Sustainable Economics, Sustainable Tyranny: http://www.independent.org/tii/content/pubs/review/TIR41_kasun.html @ Berit Kjos: http://www.crossroad.to/ # A CONSOLIDATION OF SRA AND FALSE MEMORY DATA:
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990822b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No surveillance devices were damaged during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Development of Surveillance Technology and Risk of Abuse of Economic Information (an appraisal of technologies of political control): http://cryptome.org/dst-1.htm @ The legality of the interception of electronic communications: A concise survey of the principal legal issues and instruments under international, European and national law: http://cryptome.org/dst-2.htm @ Encryption and cryptosystems in electronic surveillance: a survey of the technology assessment issues: http://cryptome.org/dst-3.htm @ The state of the art in Communications Intelligence (COMINT) of automated processing for intelligence purposes of intercepted broadband multi-lang- uage leased or common carrier systems, and its applicability to COMINT targeting and selection, including speech recognition: http://www.iptvreports.mcmail.com/stoa_cover.htm : Have your messages been intercepted? Do you intercept communications? Do you use advanced alien technology? Do you mindread? What am I thinking now? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Biotech goes Wild. Genetic engineering will be essential to feed the world's billions. But could it unleash a race of "superweeds"? No one seems to know. And nobody's in charge of finding out. No centralized monitoring: http://www.techreview.com/articles/july99/mann.htm : Will Frankenplants sweep the world accidentally or deliberately? Are you working to wipe out humanity with GM plants? Is biotech Satanic, alien, fun? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # RussMuslim boss nixes Dagestan uprising. (CNN) A top Russian Muslim leader condemned an uprising by Islamic militants in Dagestan, after discussing the crisis with Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. "The gunmen who attacked Dagestan have committed a crime against their Muslim brethren," said Sheik Ravil Gainutdin, the chairman of Russia's council of muftis, or Islamic religious leaders. http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9908/21/russia.dagestan.03/ : Does it matter that the muftis are Sunni and the rebels are Shi'ite? Does it matter that PM Putin runs the security forces? Does it matter that the rebels are controlled by Reptilioids? Does anything matter? Is it futile? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The 'circlemakers' have been given a pre-release copy of Lucy Pringle's forthcoming book 'The Greatest Mystery of Modern Times' which is due to be published in September by Harper Collins. Rod Dickinson has written a review for our site [ http://www.circlemakers.org ] and an abbreviated version of the review will be published in the next issue of the Fortean Times. You can find the full review at: http://circlemakers.org/lucy.html : Do you make crop circles? Do you have help? What creatures help you? What sort of entity are you? Do you communicate much with humans? Why bother?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Navigation bug fails to bite. (BBC) Navigation systems widely used by sailors and aircraft seem to have survived the threat of a time bug - but Japanese motorists lost their way. 600 Pioneer systems failed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_427000/427204.stm # No US trouble from navigation tool glitch. (CNN) It appeared to be smooth sailing for boaters and aviators who rely on a satellite-based navigation system that reset itself this weekend, an event expected to cause problems with older units. The US Coast Guard and Federal Aviation Administration reported receiving no calls for stranded boats or planes having problems in determining their coordinates by using the Global Positioning System, or GPS. http://cnn.com/US/9908/22/gps.glitch.ap/index.html : Is this an omen of a smooth Y2K transition, or is it misleading, or irrel- evant? Were no crisis reports received because the victims were all abducted and transported to the Mothership for implantation/experimentation/breeding? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ STRONG CONSPIRACY - THE NEW WORLD ORDER @ Dawn of the New Light: The Occult Calendar * The Occult Character of the U.N. * http://watch.pair.com/un.html @ The Third Way: Politics of the Radical Center: http://watch.pair.com/thirdway.html % The British-Israel Movement: @ The Rhodes~Milner Round Table: http://watch.pair.com/roundtable.html @ The John Birch Society The CNP: http://watch.pair.com/jbs-cnp.html @ The Discernment Ministries: http://watch.pair.com/discernment.html @ Heeding Bible Prophecy - The Discernment of Good and Evil: http://watch.pair.com/prophecy.html @ The Rise of the Fourth Reich - The Rockefeller/Heritage Connection: http://watch.pair.com/cnp.html @ The Rosicrucian Connection - The Vatican vs. The Prieuré de Sion: http://watch.pair.com/priory.html @ The Masonic New
[CTRL] Naked Ghosts Scaring Iraqi Drivers
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpin1j.htm Naked Ghosts Scaring Iraqi Drivers BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Ghost stories are pretty common around the old Iraqi city of Haditha. Still, when the ghosts start dancing naked in front of oncoming motorists, it creates quite a stir. The state-run Alwan weekly said Saturday that drivers passing through Horan Valley outside the town of Haditha, 135 miles northeast of Baghdad, were reporting that ``ghosts appeared next to the bridge, naked and doing some acrobatic moves.'' Tales of ghosts in the Horan Valley are common, but these ghosts were ``throwing themselves before cars, causing the drivers to panic,'' the paper said. Alwan quoted motorist Shawki Sabar as saying ``they were almost human -- although I could not concentrate on their looks because I was so scared and it was dark.'' The ghosts were so lifelike that one motorist thought he'd hit a person and reported the accident to police. The newspaper said the police checked the area for a body, but found nothing. Some motorists apparently suspect a less supernatural explanation. According to Alwan, drivers don't brake for ghosts just in case they are really a ploy by thieves to rob cars. AP-NY-08-21-99 2058EDT DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: GPS systems may fail this weekend (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, did the GPS have any problems? I'M LOST!! WHERE DID EVERYTHING GO?!?!? WHERE AM I, AND WHY AM I IN THIS HANDBASKET?!?!? O SH!T, I'M GONNA AUGER IN!!! (u0j9087y(p0uj(*U;l ... CARRIER LOST DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [SC] Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution The real problem with this whole issue is not whether Evolution is true or Creationism is true. The real problem is the recalcitrance of the scientific community and their inability to give fair hearing to alter- native viewpoints, particularly when those viewpoints differ greatly from paradigms that they hold sacred. Science deals with workable explanations, testable explanations that are supported by the preponderance of data. Creationism is not testable and is of no use as an explanation. Evolution was accepted by the vast majority of workers in biological research, after decades of debates with creationists, because evolutionary theory offers models that map better onto observable reality than do creationist notions. And your characterizations about scientific paradigms are absurd and totally inaccurate. Scientists make their reputations by squashing old paradigms,not worshipping them - by establishing new paradigms, not abjuring them. You've never read a scientific journal, have you? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Blood
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since our area boasts quite a few blue-eyed blond "Nordics," their blood seems to be at a premium in the blood collecting biz. didn't our good mate David Icke suggest that our Reptilian overlords prefer tasty aryan livestock and that now and then they have bloodfest get-togethers where they have nordics round for dinner Since blood involves oxygen and nutrient transport, not reproduction/ genetics, it's rather absurd that any entities would be more interested in the hemoglobin systems of one subset of Homo Sapiens rather than another, especially since the biological differences between these subsets are minimal. If Reptilioids were interested in devouring only superior humans, they'd pick those who don't thing they exist. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Naked Ghosts Scaring Iraqi Drivers
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpin1j.htm Naked Ghosts Scaring Iraqi Drivers Wouldn't be holograms from a satellite by any chance ?? Another successful HAARP transmission. Montauk strikes again. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gravity is "just a theory". You can observe gravity. oh, really? Where is it? I can't see it! Anyone who thinks that gravity is "just a theory" is invited to jump from a 10th floor window and refute it. Well, I was referring to the alleged gravitational effects of remote astronomical bodies. "BStokes45" can observe them but cannot observe effects of evolution. I feel they are equally unobservable to the layman. et tu, Ric? If remote astronomical bodies had no gravitational effects then nobody would be able to predict eclipses with any precision. Anyone disbelieving in the gravitational effects of remote astronomical bodies is welcome to pray to the sky deities during the next eclipse. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990821a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Neither Mork nor Mindy were harmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Woman kills eclipse baby. BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) A Romanian woman killed a baby born during the Aug. 11 eclipse, fearing ancient superstitions that the child would grow up cursed. The 31-year-old woman from a remote hamlet admitted throwing the infant down an outdoor toilet shortly after giving birth in her home. Neighbors in the northern Romanian village of Strahotin said the woman was "fearful of rumors that monsters are born during the eclipse." http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560792157-e7d : Were you born during an eclipse? Are you monstrous, cursed, special, gold- plated, magickal, alien, supernatural? Should you have been killed? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Tonga may get jump on millennium. TAVEUNI, Fiji (AP) The small Polynesian kingdom of Tonga hopes to do one better than neighboring island rivals for millennium business by adopting daylight saving time. They need the money. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560795352-926 : Do you want to be the first human to see the New Millennium? How much cash will you spend to achieve that goal? Do the voices in your head insist? Hmm? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Satellite navigation tool in trouble. (AP) - For those who rely on the high-tech Global Positioning System to find their way around, this weekend has plenty of potential drama. The satellite-based navigation devices in use all over the world could malfunction when the system resets its clocks - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560788144-84a # Don't rely on GPS. (BBC) Sailors and pilots are being urged to check their satellite navigation equipment this weekend for a millennium-style glitch. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_426000/426081.stm : Are you almost as tired of GPS rollover stories as you are of eclipse and millennium stories? Have you replaced your GPS gear? Do you still use LORAN? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # How to Give a Cat a Colonic: Another HOAX. A new virus hoax warns users about an email message with the subject: "HOW TO GIVE A CAT A COLONIC, DO NOT OPEN IT" This warning is a hoax; do not to distribute it to others. http://www.trend.com/vinfo/hoaxes/cat_colonic.htm : Would you execute a file describing feline enemas? Have you ever given a cat an enema? Would/did you write any cat enema viruses? Do ETs help you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Catholic bishop on trial in Rwanda. KIGALI, Rwanda (AP) - A Roman Catholic bishop in Rwanda went on trial on charges of failing to offer sanctuary to victims of the 1994 genocide. Augustin Misago, bishop of the diocese of Gigonkoro in southwestern Rwanda, is the highest-ranking Rwandan cleric to face charges of genocide and crimes against humanity. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560793507-1e1 : Does your belief subsystem promote/condone/accept genocide, crimes against humanity, crimes against anyone? Do you promote cultural genocide? Where?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Deathtrap cities keep growing. (BBC) As more people flock to cities, the impact of disasters inevitably worsens. Stink of civilization: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_426000/426035.stm @ Links: The Worldwatch Institute: http://www.worldwatch.org/ @ UN Centre for Human Settlements: http://www.unhabitat.org/ @ Natural Disaster Reduction: http://www.idndr.org/ : What's your favorite urban deathtrap? How're ya gonna keep'em down on the farm, after they've seen Recife? Do urban sinks result from genocidal plots? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Museum celebrates computers. SAN DIEGO (AP) From vacuum tubes paper tape to Atari Pong and Apple IIs, the Computer Museum of America slithers down technology lane. The collection of more than 200 pieces spans a century of computing from a 1900 circular slide rule that looks like a pocket watch, to an IBM 360 mainframe computer from the 1960s that's about the size of three gym lockers. The nonprofit museum's newest addition is a 22-year-old MITS Altair 8800b, donated by a patent lawyer who won a contest for having the oldest personal computer still in use. He was too cheap to upgrade til now: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560786364-0ac # And: Computer museum at a glance, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560783034-48e : Shouldn't ancient Napier's Bones logarithms be on display here too? D'ya know that these were developed to calculate when Armageddon would occur? Do you use computational devices to prognosticate The End? Got an answer yet? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Freemasons: satanism,
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 99-08-20 02:03:34 EDT, Keachie writes: These critters have much more in common in their DNA than do say any of them and horses. You're walking on the beach. You see something glittering in the sand. You dig carefully and discover a shiny, solid gold pocket watch. You snap open the lid to reveal a beautifully crafted face, with gold hands ticking across black roman numeral lettering. What can you assume about the watch? Do you think that the sand and other minerals swirled together over millions of years, and finally, com- pletely by chance, "evolved" into a watch? Or do you assume that someone crafted the watch from metals and glass, and "created" it according to an intelligent design? Weighing the probabilities in your mind, you come to the logical conclusion that an intelligent being crafted it, organizing it from the elements. This argument has been dealt with endlessly in the past. 1) Lifeforms ain't watches. 2) We can easily observe the presence of watchmakers; creators aren't so easily discerned, only inferred, and can't be tested for. 3) Watches have just the necessary mechanical parts to perform their intended function, plus possibly a few decorative flourishes. Homo Sapiens and other lifeforms have all sorts of non- and dys-functional features that make sense in an evolutionary context since they don't necessarily kill-off a creature before it reproduces, but that in a creationist context suggest total incompetence on a creator's part. 4) Evolution can be observed in any microbiology lab. Researchers have shown that the chemical and organizational bases of life can be replicated in the lab - 'creators' aren't NEEDED to explain the origin of life. Abiogenesis and evolutionary theories WORK as explanations of observed phenomena - creationism doesn't. 5) You'll believe whatever you want to believe. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # How We Became Human: The evolution of Homo sapiens wasn't a steady march from primitivism to perfection. Instead, as new- found fossils reveal, it was a turbulent tale, full of false starts and repeated failures, before the appearance of cultur- ally complex, technologically savvy creatures like us: That's yesterdays news; what's up next? What will our successor be like? Is she around already? Ah, now we get into the paradox-laden realm of "future evolution". Since evolution is [among other things] "the survival of changes over time"; and since the future hasn't happened yet; then there is no way to determine just what changes will occur. But we CAN note that various stages of evolution apply: 1) Chemical evolution - The fitting-together of elements into the hydrocarbons, polymers, proteins that give rise to life; 2) Biological evolution - The fitting-together of DNA into a wide range of life-forms, including we more-or-less hairy primates; 3) Social evolution - The fitting-together of humanoid individuals into groups, allowing the survival of individuals who couldn't exist on their own, but who have valuable skills for the group; 4) Cultural evolution - The fitting-together of technological specialists - farmers, toolmakers, engineers, workers - resulting in immensely more productivity than individuals or small groups; 5) Directed evolution - The fitting-together of information biochemical genetic technologies to build humans to order, engineered for any environment we may encounter. We've gone through stages 1-4 and have entered stage 5. As we expand thru the universe we'll build more and more diverse forms of 'humans', any of which may be successful in surviving in various niches and who thus may be thought of as "our successor". What'll they look/act/think like? Depends on where you are, eh? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2 - SkeptiBriefs
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990821b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Only a few narcissists were harmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Secret Military Information. Do you know what hanger number the real Alien craft parts are stored at Wright Patterson AFB ? They have been stored in building 50 51 up until the mid 1970's. http://caus.org/mc082199.htm @ Failed Polygraph Yields Unexpected Benefit. The recently leaked Top Secret MJ-12 UFO documents from Mr. Timothy Cooper have undergone a series of authentication tests. What do you believe? http://caus.org/pn082199.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # GAS PUMPS PLUG INTO THE NET: hi-tech "gas pump of the future." Gas pumps run by BP Amoco PLC are getting wired: The firm announced that it will use a Windows-CE-based system to link pumps to the Internet. The "Millennium Dispenser," developed by Radiant Systems, uses the Windows CE operating system to access the Internet for traffic updates, weather reports and more. http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/20/gasnet.ptech.idg/index.html # LOOK, MA! NO COMPUTER! SBC Communications is about to roll out the latest gadget: a US$180 machine that does email, email, and nothing but email. http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/technology/story/21353.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ CYBERMIND. Discussing "the philosophical and psychological implications of subjectivity in cyberspace," Cybermind is an ambitious elist, with Serious Thinkers thinking Serious Thoughts. Among the issues addressed, according to the online charter, are the emergence and/or disappearance of the body in cyberspace, phenomenology of the terminal screen, sex/gender/sexuality theory electronic subjectivity, and (uh-oh) psychoanalysis of lurking. What's that famous quote? "Gaze too long into the abyss, and the abyss also gazes into you." Something like that. For a slightly creepy meta- freakout, send e-mail to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with a message body of: subscribe cybermind [your name and e-mail here] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Into the Big Blue Yonder. A few years ago, IBM's vaunted Research division went through a stormy upheaval. But the labs have bounced back, and the future looks bright. (TechReview) "What's more, the rise of the Internet and the fusion of communications and computers play perfectly into decades of research raw computing power, storage, chips, displays, speech recogni- tion, 'data mining' and electronic security that few companies, if any, can match." http://www.techreview.com/articles/july99/buderi.htm @ Links: IBM Research home page: http://www.research.ibm.com/ @ IBM Research facilities worldwide: http://www.research.ibm.com/worldwide/ @ Semiconductor research: http://www.research.ibm.com/topics/serious/chip/ @ Human-computer interactions: www.research.ibm.com/topics/innovate/hci/ @ Deep-computing projects: http://www.research.ibm.com/topics/deep/scalable/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Biometrics Breaks Into Prisons. Sophisticated technology allows inmates to be ID'd by scanning their irises or taking their voice prints. Corrections officials say this is more reliable than fingerprinting, but privacy advo- cates worry. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21362.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Jack Parsons The Curious Origins of The American Space Program. Starts as a lighthearted look at JPL the origins of the "Space program" with a little OTO Scientology thrown in for good measure - probably inspired by the Discordian offshoot "Church of the SubGenius" - careful 'cuz it'll try to sneak some sense in under the radar while it keeps you entertained and off balanced with a "Gravity's Rainbow" meets Douglas Adams sort of sense/ nonsense stutterstep. Hard-R http://zolatimes.com/JparArt/JackParsons.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ BONDAGE AND DOMINANCE AND SM DISCUSSIONS. Eloquent, articulate, well- versed, and an occasional sidetrack of "niggling etymological issues," the postings in this newsgroup may not excite you, but it is pretty funny when the adolescent finger-pointing gets going. I am frightened of the Capture and Chloroform threads. news:soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Black Box Crooks Finger Buyers. Scads of people who bought illegal cable descramblers on the Web may soon get unexpected - and unwanted - visits from the cops. http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21370.html # Porn Shop Raided by Mounties. Thursday, Net porn-and-casino firm Starnet was merrily planning its move onto the Nasdaq. Friday, it got nailed by Canadian cops. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/21376.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ British monarchy Jews of Amsterdam, Bank of England, CFR, RIIA. "The doctrine of British-Israelism and
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990821c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No fretful Malthusians reproduced during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # State comic books lampoon Chinese meditation sect. The government describes its campaign against the group as a "political struggle" and accuses Falun Gong founder Li of plotting against the Communist Party. http://www.nando.net/noframes/story/0,2107,84138-132934-928600-0,00.html : Have you plotted against the Communist Party lately? Has the Communist Party plotted against you? Have either of you plotted against anyone else? Are your plots comical? Does your belief system communicate with comix?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China 'arrests church leaders' - Worship is allowed but not behind closed doors. (BBC) 8 Christian leaders have been arrested in the central Chinese province of Henan for holding an illegal gathering. Cops raided a house in the city of Wugang and took away eight Protestant "home church" leaders. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_426000/426840.stm @ Links: Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs: http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/ @ Amnesty International China: http://www.amnesty-usa.org/asa/china/ : Should/have/will the leaders of your belief system be busted? Should/have/ will your belief system take capture the leaders of other belief systems? Do you wage war on other belief systems? Is yours a dominant heresy? Of what?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # AFT finds plot to bomb utilities during Y2K scare. Albuquerque (AT) US and Canadian authorities are probing a New Mexico connection in a strange plot to cash in on the Y2K scare by blowing up utility systems. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms has filed charges on a 50-year-old Canuck man who solicited an American citizen to bomb and disrupt various energy systems in the US and Canada. http://abqtrib.com/news/082099_bomber.shtml : What utility systems would you most like to bomb? How can you profit? Do the voices in your head provoke Armageddon? Do CIA mind-control rays direct your bombings? Why would the CIA want to promote Y2K scares? Or why not??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Communist shrine defies demolition. (BBC) An attempt by the Bulgarian authorities to demolish the most prominent symbol of the country's communist past has ended in failure. Can't keep a good icon down: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_427000/427068.stm @ Georgi Dimitrov: http://www.bulgaria.com/history/rulers/dimitrov.html : Does your belief system build sturdy shrines? Should your sacred sites be demolished? Can they be? Are you protected by higher powers, aliens, robots? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ 10,000 Mummies Found In Egypt- Many Covered In Gold. "They lay as though expecting us. Lined up in rows, heads toward the aisle and faces up, they waited for the laborers to lift the protective plastic sheets that a few months ago they did not need. Now they stretched impassively on... sand- stone shelves as we stomped discourteously into their forever- disrupted home. Yet they bore it gracefully. Their crumbling gilded face masks (and sometimes, just crumbling faces) betrayed no embarrassment as we photogra- phed them with flash cameras, and talked about them like objects in lang- uages that did not even exist during their former lives. And then we left, as clumsily as we came. http://www.projectduat.com/bahareya-mummies/ @ Also: David Icke's Bestseller: 'The Biggest Secret' - Excerpt: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/icke.htm @ Egyptologist Responds To David Icke's August 11 Giza Update: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/response.htm : Have you mummified many humans, animals, aliens, robots, deities, demons? Do you enjoy mummification? Is it a job, a calling, a hobby, a necessity?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Single Factor Fallacy. Did Bill Clinton's childhood trauma cause the Lewinsky affair? A brain scientist explains why that's the wrong question to ask. http://www.feedmag.com/essay/es244_master.html?alert : Were you traumatized in your youth? Were you abducted by aliens? Do mind- controllers direct y'r actions? Does y'r implant misfire? What's y'r excuse? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ How Stuff Works: http://www.howstuffworks.com/ @ Nasa Discovery Program: http://discovery.nasa.gov/ @ Museum of Unnatural History: http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/unmuseum.htm @ The Human Brain: A Mystery to Itself: http://library.advanced.org/26463/ @ Krakatoa blows: http://www.irfamedia.com/lampung/krakatau.htm @ America's Jazz Heritage: http://www.si.edu/ajazzh/ @ Pink Alien: http://www.colinstevenson.free-online.co.uk/warning.htm $ The Greatest Story Never Told * Opening the Seven Seals of Revelations * 2 Books that implant new religion memes:
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Taylor, John (JH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Ships' sulphur fuels climate change. Sulphur emitted by ships ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_422000/422856.stm # 122 Companies Responsible for Nearly 80 Percent of World's Fossil- Fuel Carbon Pollution, the Main Cause of Global Warming. ... says new report: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/gbw.htm : Are you doing your share to promote/speed global warming? Do you emit much sulfur, carbon, other greenhouse gasses? Are your alien masters happy with y'r work? Do they reward you well? Will they let you live after the harvest? The sulphur emitted forms s02 which creates a type of smog that reflects energy back into space and help cools the earthwhat you gain on the co2 you lose on the so2 You're absolutely correct - I should have remembered that. My query should read: "Are you doing your share to promote atmospheric change? Do you emit much sulfur, carbon, other biosphere-altering gasses?" ... Ric, mea culpa-ing... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990820a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No cultural watchdogs were alarmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Pig transplants 'safe for humans'. (BBC) Research led by UK scientists suggests that pig organs are safe to use in human transplants. Hard on pigs: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_424000/424956.stm @ Links: Compassion in World Farming: http://www.ciwf.co.uk/clear_message_to_meps_on_animal.htm @ Novartis Pharma AG/Immutran Ltd: http://www.transplantsquare.com/ @ UK Xenotransplantation Authority: http://www.doh.gov.uk/ukxira.htm : Does your belief system reject transplantation from pigs or other animals? Would your rather die? Would you be missed? Do you deserve to go extinct?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Masons Stole My House. An astonishing tale of one woman's battle against corruption in Greenwich council involving a struck-off solicitor convicted for fraud points directly to a conspiracy amongst prominent freemasons to wrongfully repossess properties and throw the rightful owners onto the streets. http://www.scandals.org/articles/swg2511a.html @ Cross-Reference: US Presidents Who Were Or Are Freemasons: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/daniken/443/uspresidentasmasons.htm : Has a conspiracy amongst prominent freemasons left you homeless yet? Are they in cahoots with Reptilioids? Should freemasons be presumed guilty??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # XMas computer virus found. NEW YORK (AP) A computer virus timed to strike Windows PCs Christmas Day has yet to pose a significant threat because of its low prevalence, but anti-virus software makers are gearing up to help computer users combat it. The new virus, named W32/Kriz.3862, is designed to muck over Windows 95/98/NT machines. Only 2 cases of the virus have been seen: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560781882-10f # US Navy predicts widespread Y2K failure. WASHINGTON (AP) - A Navy report predicts probable or likely failures in electrical and water systems for many cities because of the Year 2000 technology problem - an assessment more dire than any other made by the government. Who ya gonna trust, eh? See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560783567-819 : Will your next computer disaster be caused by design, by fate, by random factors, by gov't agents, by aliens, by me? Why not turn the system off now? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Stunning New NSA Mind Control And Psyops Information Revealed. "Subliminal Implanted Posthypnotic Suggestions Scripts Using Acoustically Delivered and Phonetically Accelerated Posthypnotic Commands without Somnambulistic Preparation in the Subject for Intelligence and Counterintelligence Applications by the United States National Security Agency." Whew. http://www.sonic.net/~west/nsamindcontrol.htm : Has your mind been controlled lately? Is it still controlled? What have you done lately? Is that strange? Do you know why you did it? Was it fun?? # The Spectrum of Dissociative Disorders: An Overview of Diagnosis and Treatment: http://www.voiceofwomen.com/centerarticle.html # A teenage hairdressing student died after eating large amounts of her own hair: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_425000/425609.stm : Have voices in your head told you to eat your own hair? Did mind-control experiments cause your dissociative disorders? Are you one of the successes? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Feds want to crack computer codes. WASHINGTON (AP) The White House plans to ask Congress to give police the authority to secretly go into people's personal computers and crack their security codes. New laws would let cops get a sealed warrant from a judge to enter private property, search thru computers for passwords and override encryption programs. Why? Encryption software for scrambling computer files "is increasingly used as a means to facilitate criminal activity, such as drug trafficking, terrorism, white- collar crime and the distribution of child pornography." And tax evasion. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560786264-8d0 : Can you write uncrackable security codes? Is perfect crypto possible? Are gov't attempts to rape your privacy doomed to fail? Will they try anyway?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Researchers Work On New Propulsion (update) http://news.excite.com/news/r/990819/15/science-corrected # Bicycles Waste Little Energy, Study Shows: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990819/19/science-science-bikes http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990819180058.htm # CIA's Role in the Study of UFOs, 1947-90 - Haines Report: http://www.odci.gov/csi/studies/97unclas/ufo.html # CIA Said To Rue Its Longterm UFO Cover-Up: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/rue.htm
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990820c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No extraterrestrial legions invaded during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # DOD Scientist: Lose the Humans. The US Department of Defense's chief scientist wants to take people out of the computing equation and give more control to smart processors that control robots. Take my brain, please: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21354.html : Should we humans confine ourselves to art/politics/religion, and leave the serious stuff like science/engineering/programming/war to robots and borgs? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ABC Site Falls to Crackers. A group calling itself the United Loan Gunmen replaced the home page at ABC TV with an anti-corporate call to arms. Zow. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21365.html : What communications facilities would you like to hack? D'ya wanna replace their mind-control messages with your own? Is controlling minds easy? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Syria TV production a booming business. DAMASCUS, Syria (UPI) Syria's TV production is becoming a booming business, with millions of U.S. dollars being spent on the production of new series that are expected to dominate Arab satellite networks. Some 25 TV series are being completed to be ready for broadcast during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan due to begin by the end of December when TV viewing drastically increases. Insh'allah, baby: http://news.excite.com/news/u/990820/11/international-television : What mind-control messages would you like to insert into Arab TV? Have you hacked Syrian TV lately? Do voices in your head help? Do they speak Arabic? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # University Of Toronto Team Discovers Salt Tolerance Gene In Plants. The isolation of a gene that confers salt tolerance in plants could lead to improved farming productivity in the Canadian prairies and many other areas of the world where crops are compromised by saline irrigation water. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990819133839.htm : When will human population outstrip food production? When will we run out of agritechno tricks to avoid the Malthus crisis? Will ETs harvest us then? If weeds can learn tolerance, why can't humans? Can't we all just get along? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Love/Hate-A-Rama: # Boy Scouts may consider gay issue. (UPI) Boy Scouts of America are mulling a proposal to study membership requirements and the group's policy banning gay membership. http://news.excite.com/news/u/990820/13/news-boyscouts # Thin Line Between Love and Hate. The ownership of godhatesfags.com is mysteriously transferred to the owner of godlovesfags.com. Kiss me: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/21351.html # Mississippi Boy Files Suit Over Star Of David. ATLANTA (Reuters) Lawyers for a Jewish boy in Mississippi filed suit Friday against a school board that ordered him to stop wearing a Star of David pendant because they believed it could be perceived as a gang symbol. Crosses are next: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990820/15/news-rights-star # Struggle Ends Over 'Mein Kampf' German media monolith, accused of selling hate literature, will no longer offer copies of Hitler's manifesto online. http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21360.html # Prejudice Does Not Come From Peers - US Study. BOSTON (Reuters) US teens may learn many things from their peers, but prejudice apparently is not one of them. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990820/15/news-teens-prejudice _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Evolution-A-Rama: # How We Became Human: The evolution of Homo sapiens wasn't a steady march from primitivism to perfection. Instead, as new-found fossils reveal, it was a turbulent tale, full of false starts and repeated failures, before the appearance of culturally complex, technologically savvy creatures like us: http://www.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,29513,00.html @ Creationism: Stephen Jay Gould on a tornado out of Oz: http://www.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,29479,00.html # The First Butcher. Filleted bones and an ape-man surprise: Could this big-toothed scavenger be our ancestor? http://www.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,23557,00.html # On Its Own Two Feet. Kenyan fossils suggest a new, earlier date when a human ancestor first walked upright. http://pathfinder.com/time/magazine/archive/1995/950828/950828.science.html # One Less Missing Link. Bones from the Ethiopian desert prove that human ancestors walked the earth 4.4 million years ago. http://pathfinder.com/time/magazine/archive/1994/941003/941003.science.html # Lucy's Grandson. A fossil skull implies that humanity's earliest known progenitors belonged to a single, long-lived species.
[CTRL] *** Castro offered LBJ help in '64 race
-Caveat Lector- http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560795418-57d 02:20 PM ET 08/20/99 Castro Offered LBJ Help in '64 Race By GEORGE GEDDA= Associated Press Writer= WASHINGTON (AP) _ Before the 1964 presidential campaign, President Lyndon B. Johnson got an offer of help from an improbable source _ Cuban Prime Minister Fidel Castro. Castro sent a verbal message to Johnson that he was eager for Johnson to prevail in the election _ and even invited him to take ``hostile action'' against Cuba if it would be to his political benefit. He also urged Johnson to continue a U.S.-Cuban dialogue that Kennedy had initiated in the months before his assassination. Castro's comments are contained in a series of once-secret 1960s documents on U.S.-Cuban relations obtained by Peter Kornbluh, a senior analyst at the National Security Archive, a research group at George Washington University. Kornbluh wrote an article based on the documents in the current edition of Cigar Aficionado. The Castro message was dated Feb. 12, 1964, less than three months after Kennedy was assassinated. It was given verbally by Castro to Lisa Howard of ABC News in Havana for delivery to Johnson. Kornbluh said the message reached Johnson through U.N. Ambassador Adlai Stevenson. Castro, who then held the title of prime minister, asked Howard to ``Please tell President Johnson that I earnestly desire his election to the presidency in November ... though that appears assured. Seriously, I have observed how Republicans use Cuba as a weapon against the Democrats. So tell President Johnson to let me know what I can do.'' He suggested that his offer remain secret lest it become useful to the Republicans. It was a time when the conservative wing of the party was poised to seize power after long years of dominance by moderates. That summer, the GOP nominated conservative Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona to run against Johnson. Castro continued: ``If the president feels it necessary during the campaign to make bellicose statements about Cuba or even to take hostile action, if he will inform me unofficially that a specific action is required because of domestic political considerations, I shall understand and not take any serious retaliatory action.'' How Johnson responded to Castro's letter is not known. Four months after his message to Johnson, Castro proposed in an interview ``extensive discussions of the issues dividing'' Cuba and the United States. There were subsequent contacts but the initiative begun by Kennedy fizzled out by the end of 1964. As the documents show, Kennedy placed high priority on a normal relationship with Cuba. Rejecting a State Department recommendation that Cuba loosen its ties with the Soviet Union and China as the price for normal ties, a White House memo dated March 4, 1963, said, ``We don't want to present Castro with a condition that he obviously cannot fulfill. ``We should start thinking along more flexible lines. The president, himself, is very interested in this one.'' The documents highlight Kennedy's previously reported interest in abandoning his policy of unremitting hostility toward Cuba in exchange for a more moderate course. For his part Castro seemed interested. In mid-November 1963, Castro was preparing to send instructions to his U.N. ambassador on a proposed agenda for official talks between Castro and a U.S. emissary. Kennedy sent word to top aides that he was prepared to decide on next steps once the agenda was received. The date was Nov. 19, 1963, three days before Kennedy's assassination. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Trend Virus Report
Latest computer news. Enjoy --Ric * V I R U SR E P O R T (By Trend US Virus Research Group) * - Date: 08.17.99 Issue: 8.3 - Issue Preview: The Christmas/Grinch Virus, Jokes that are not funny, 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Wild Viruses, Top 10 Viruses Trend US Customers are concerned about, How to Give a Cat a Colonic HOAX, Bug's Life HOAX, X97M_EX-LAX. * 1. The Grinch that Stole Computer Data - PE_KRIZ is a polymorphic and memory-resident virus, infecting all Win 32 executable files (*.EXE and *.DLL). It has a destructive payload that will be activated on Christmas day, December 25. When executed it will destroy the CMOS memory, the Flash BIOS and all files in all drives by overwriting data on them. In this sense, it is more destructive than the PE_CIH virus. When an infected program file is executed, the virus first infects the file KERNELL32.DLL and becomes memory resident for the whole Windows session. Every time Windows is started thereafter, the virus will be memory resident immediately and infect every Win 32 program executed. For more information on the virus, please see our web site at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/security/sa08199.htm Our pattern file 574 can detect the virus. 2. Jokes that are not funny -- In recent month we have received many programs which look like viruses, yet do not contain any harmful payloads. Instead, they perform functions such as opening the CD and shaking the screen. Some programs even visually pretend to delete files or reformat the hard drive. While there is no actual threat to data, users often fear these phony virus alerts. To help our customers, we are proud to offer detection for these jokes. They can easily be identified by their name prefix, which is JOKE_. (Example: JOKE_WOW). To read about the most recent Joke programs, please visit our website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default3.asp?VCode=EN001319 for Joke_Wow) http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default3.asp?VCode=3002 for Joke_Geschenk) http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default3.asp?VCode=3189 for Joke_Wobbling) 3. 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Wild Viruses Surveyed by Trend US (week of: 08/09/99 to 08/15/99) -- 1. TROJ_SKA 2. W97M_ETHAN 3. JOKE_WOW 4. TROJ_GESCHENK 5. JOKE_WOBBLING 6. TROJ_DOH 7. NE_AOL_TROJAN.CJ 8. NE_SMALL_JOKE 9. PE_CIH 10. W97M_CLASS For the most prevalent viruses for the month of July'99, please visit our website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/most_prevalent.htm 4. Top 10 Viruses Customers are most Concerned About (where systems were not infected) -- 1. VBS_MONOPOLY 2. WOBBLER/CALIFORNIA Hoax 3. W97M_JACK_BOX 4. PE_CIH 5. TROJ_CATFOD.A 6. JOKE_WOBBLING 7. TROJ_SKA 8. TROJ_BARJAM 9. JOKE_GESCHENK 10. JOIN A CREW Hoax 5. How to Give a Cat a Colonic: Another HOAX -- This new hoax warns users about an email message with the subject: "HOW TO GIVE A CAT A COLONIC, DO NOT OPEN IT" This warning is a hoax and we advise all our customers not to distribute it to others. For details on this hoax, please visit our website at: http://www.trend.com/vinfo/hoaxes/cat_colonic.htm 6. Fact or Fiction: (or Bug's Life -- BUGGLST.ZIP HOAX) -- Another email hoax forwarded to us warns users about the Bug's Life screen saver. In addition, it tries to warn people not to run certain executables. While most of the warning is fiction, some of the executables mentioned in the bottom section are known to be carriers of known viruses. For example, the Happy99.exe file is known to be infected with the PE_SKA virus (also known as Happy99 virus). We advise users not to run executables that have not been scanned with the latest Trend pattern file. For additional information about this hoax, please visit our website at: http://www.trend.com/vinfo/hoaxes/bugs_life.htm 7. X97M_EX-LAX (a.k.a. X97M/Xal.A) -- Also reported this month was X97M_EX-LAX. This new Excel 97 infector is very simple and does not contain any payload. It infects files in the list of recently used files,
Re: [CTRL] FW: Southern Party for FREEDOM!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE ASHEVILLE DECLARATION: A SECOND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE 75-line sentence deleted Dang, these guys write about as well as a chicken shuffles cards. If I wanted to see prose like that, I'd read a sociology doctoral candidate's dissertation. That was as unreadable as a tax code. Better not let these clowns have control of ANYTHING, eh? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JFK Jr almost hit jet
-Caveat Lector- http://cnn.com/US/9908/18/PM-Kennedy-Investigation.ap/index.html KENNEDY FLIGHT CAME CLOSE TO JET BEFORE CRASH August 19, 1999 Web posted at: 4:24 a.m. EDT (0824 GMT) PROVIDENCE, Rhode Island (AP) -- An hour before it crashed, John F. Kennedy Jr.'s plane came close enough to an American Airlines plane that a radar controller alerted the crew on the jetliner, investigators said. The National Transportation Safety Board confirmed the incident but it was not clear how close the planes came to each other, The Providence Journal reported Wednesday. The planes were close enough to prompt the traffic advisory to the commercial plane, but there was "no apparent risk of collision," according to NTSB spokesman Paul Schlamm. Such advisories are not rare, Schlamm said. He said the incident was not serious enough to require a course adjustment. Kennedy's plane went down off Martha's Vineyard, Mass., on July 16. Kennedy, his wife and his sister-in-law died. One possible explanation for the crash is that Kennedy was disoriented by nighttime haze. A radar controller on New York's Long Island issued the traffic advisory to the American Airlines crew while the two planes were northwest of White Plains, N.Y., 150 miles from the crash site. The pilot told the radar controller that he could see the smaller plane from his cockpit. Kennedy's Piper Saratoga, which was heading from New Jersey to Massachusetts, did not receive an advisory, Schlamm said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990819a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No alien corpses were dissected during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Geneticists make faithful mice. Scientists have transformed promiscuous male mice into more faithful partners doting dads by inserting a single gene from a prairie vole. The research could have important applications: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_424000/424076.stm : Would a genetically-engineered monogamous human population be susceptible to centralized control? Would we cease being human? Would we be easier for Reptilioids to harvest? Would we die of boredom? Would we screw like voles? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ Finally, A place where you can shop in a secure environment for all your love making accessories and novelties. Look the latest trends in dildos, vibrators, pumps, lingerie, magazines and videos. A huge variety of prod- ucts is at your finger tips. You might find something that will turn your love life upside down, inside out. Yow: http://www.thedildostore.com : Do you require mechanical assistance to reproduce, like turkeys, cattle Grays? What's your favorite mechanical reproduction appliance? Is it large? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Asia faces diabetes explosion. (BBC) There will be a massive increase in the number of people with diabetes - and particularly in China and India - over the next 15 years, the head of a biotechnology company has predicted. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_424000/424857.stm @ Links: Novo Nordisk http://www.novo.dk/index.asp @ Info: http://www.umds.ac.uk/diabetes-euro/doit/information/diab_htm.htm @ Diabetes webring UK: http://www.diabetic.org.uk/links/webring.htm # UK Researchers Say Closer To Diabetes Cure. EDINBURGH (Reuters) British medical researchers said they had taken big steps toward finding a cure for diabetes, a disease that affects millions worldwide and forces them to take daily insulin injections. Hypodermic manufacturers are panicked: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990818/13/science-health-diabetes : Will the 'cure' be found "just in time" to sell it to a billion customers/ patients? Is there a conspiracy involving the rise and cure of diabetes??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # On the Veracity and Variability of Traumatic Memory. The authors present a neurobiologically based model of memory that predicts 1) temporary func- tional amnesia under traumatically stressful conditions; 2) recovery of emotional memories laid down during functional amnesia; and 3) that the accuracy of recovered traumatic memories varies in a systematic manner. The model, which is based on findings from modern cognitive neuroscience, also provides a neurobiologically sound alternative to the psychodynamic concept of repression. http://rdz.stjohns.edu/trauma/art3v2i2.html : How variable are your memories? Do you forget stressful stuff? Have you recovered any memories? Do your alien implants help or interfere with your memory? Do you have false memories implanted in your consciousness? Which? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Journey through Tibet. (CNN) Surrounded by the world's highest mountain barriers, Tibetans for centuries discouraged contact with the outside world. These days, visitors are welcome, but it's still no easy matter to get there. Get a peek inside this once hidden kingdom with one woman's account of traveling there, and a gallery of stunning photographs. Watch out for the holy corn oil: http://cnn.com/TRAVEL/DESTINATIONS/9908/tibet/ # Also: Free Range Yaks Allowed To Roam. KATHMANDU (Reuters) -- Nepal and China have renewed an agreement allowing their yaks to graze across their common borders: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990819/08/odd-nepal-grazing : Is holy corn oil the oil made from the corns of holy men? Are any holy men left in Tibet? Does free-range yak taste good when fried in holy corn oil?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Strange lights in the sky turn out to be a memorial. CANTON, Ohio (AP) A UFO mystery is solved. Strange lights in the sky that perplexed some Perry Township residents turned out to be the result of a dead man's final wish. The shimmering balls of light seen dipping and swaying in the sky that morning were 50 yellow balloons containing the ashes of a recently deceased Canton resident, balloons released at the end of his memorial service. http://www.ohio.com:80/bj/news/ohio/docs/004441.htm : Would you like to be carried off in a UFO when you die? Why wait? How many reported UFOs are memorial balloons carrying human ashes? How many aren't?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Global positioning navigational systems may fail: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990818/13/health-gps2 # Australia May Face Nuclear Threat From
[CTRL] BoNY used in global money-laundering scheme
-Caveat Lector- http://cnn.com/cnnfn/1999/08/19/worldbiz/crime/ BoNY used in global money-laundering scheme. NY Times reports as much as $10b in Russian mafia funds passed through bank August 19, 1999: 12:47 a.m. ET NEW YORK (CNNfn) - The Bank of New York has been used by members of a Russian organized-crime gang to launder as much as $10 billion since early last year, according to the New York Times. The bank is cooperating in an investigation, and two employees were suspended Wednesday, according to the newspaper. Both employees work in the bank's Eastern European division and are married to Russian businessmen. "There are no allegations of wrongdoing by the bank," the bank said in a statement. The investigation, which is being run by the office of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, apparently focuses on the use of the bank as conduit for funds from Russia into other countries. The accounts under investigation, according to the newspaper, are linked to a man whom investigators say runs a veritable one-stop shopping center of crime. Semyon Yukovich Mogilevich is engaged in arms trafficking, extortion and prostitution, according to law enforcement and intelligence sources. The newspaper described him as "smart, ruthless and vastly wealthy." Money laundering refers to the practice of moving illegally gained funds in and out of a series of accounts - eventually hiding the money's origins. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LaRouche seeks matching funds
-Caveat Lector- http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/08/18/president.2000/larouche.ap/ LaRouche seeks matching funds August 18, 1999 Web posted at: 4:11 p.m. EDT (2011 GMT) WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic candidate Lyndon LaRouche filed papers with the Federal Election Commission Wednesday asking for federal matching funds for the presidential election. The LaRouche campaign says it has raised more than $7,000 in contributions of $250 or less, beating the $5,000 requirement to receive matching funds. National spokeswoman Debra Hanania-Freeman expects the FEC to respond to the request within 24 hours. "We are hopeful that along with the participation of Bill Bradley and Al Gore this will open up a broad spectrum of debate within the Democratic Party," Freeman said at a news conference. LaRouche, who is in Germany recovering from double bypass surgery, has waged five other unsuccessful bids for the White House. With this latest try, Freeman said the campaign has raised more than $1 million and recruited some 7,000 volunteers thus far. His campaign will focus on the "advanced state of the global economic crisis," Freeman added. During the Reagan administration, LaRouche was imprisoned for five years on charges of tax fraud and conspiracy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990819b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No albino lab rats were harmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFO Report Reveals Rifts At CIA. LONDON - The CIA has released a secret history of its probes into sightings of unidentified flying objects, revealing that there is more truth in the popular television series The X-Files than is often believed. The highly critical report describes often-bitter debates between real-life X-File investigators who believed "the truth is out there" and their skeptical bosses. It records tales of bumbling undercover agents whose activities that the government was covering up what the agency described as "extra-terrestrial visitations by intelligent beings." http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/ciaufo.htm : Have you been visited by intelligent extraterrestrials? Have you ever been visited by intelligent terrestrials? Are you engaged in a cover-up? Should you be covered-up? Is the CIA controlled by extraterrestrials? Are you? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Planet found orbiting two stars. (BBC) Astronomers may have found the first evidence of a planet that orbits two stars. Interstellar bigamy: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_424000/424001.stm @ Links: MACHO lensing search project: http://wwwmacho.mcmaster.ca/ @ Micro-lens search for planets: http://www.astro.rug.nl/~planet/ # Also: New planets discovered: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_252000/252099.stm # Planet discovered orbiting Sun-like star: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_407000/407772.stm : How many stars d'ya wanna orbit? How would your lifeform evolve on a world orbiting multiple stars? Which ET invaders came from multiple-star systems? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE IN CIRCUMCISION AND AIDS STORY. Don't draw many conclusions from this study of AIDS and circumcision in Africa. It doesn't take into account some cultural factors, and it promotes the idea that circumcision protects against sexually transmitted diseases - it's just not true. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15382 # Also: Clue to resisting HIV - Why Some Live And Some Die: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_424000/424245.stm : Would you like to be surgically altered for protection against sexually- transmitted diseases? Is solitary confinement the only sure protection? Do ETs spread STDs so more humans can be harvested? Do they prefer us weak?? # DoD's 1969 Request To Build An HIV-Like Viral Weapon: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/viralwp.htm # Is HIV A Manmade Virus Designed To Kill Blacks And Gays? http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/manmade.htm # AIDS Was Manmade - The Men Who Blew The Whistle: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/manmade2.htm : Is AIDs a good weapon? Was it developed by humans, aliens, robots, demons, deities, evolution, me? What populations would you like to target for death? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Study Finds TB Infects 1/3 Of World Population. CHICAGO (Reuters) Nearly a third of the world's population is infected with the bacterium that causes tuberculosis, with 7.96 million new cases of the disease reported in 1997. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990818/04/science-health-tuberculosis : Do you spread TB? Who are you working for? Is it fun being a carrier? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SWEET IDEA: CHOCOLATE A HEALTH FOOD. Researchers find that chocolate is a rich source of catechins, a type of antioxidant that might protect against heart disease and possibly cancer. What a concept - chocolate as a health food! http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15424 # MORE BENEFITS FROM FISH OILS. More evidence that you should get the good stuff from diet, not from pills. This study found that fish oils lowered the risk of a second heart attack in patients, but that vitamin E supple- ments did not. So, serve up some fish tonight. But not deep-fried salmon: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15425 : What's your fave health food? Is it tasty? Is it healthy? Is it sinful? Is it expensive? Is it genetically-modified? Is is irradiated? Is it alien? Eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The Biggest Secret, By David Icke. Conquered By The Cross - Ch.5 Excerpt. The Christian Church is a farce founded on a fantasy. If anyone requires confirmation of how easy it is for the few to control the masses, they need look no further than the billions of people who have worshipped the fairy tales peddled these past 2,000 years by men in long frocks. And what goes for Christianity goes for the rest of them, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism and all the rest. http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/icke.bs.chapter5.txt : Have you been conquered by
Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Thursday #1]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Geneticists make faithful mice. Do mice make faithful geneticists? Define 'faithful'. Define 'geneticist'. Define 'make'. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CHINA SYNDROME
-Caveat Lector- CHINA SYNDROME (WRLD 3:00 am) http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/story/21309.html With its military newspapers spewing bile and vitriol worthy of the most hackneyed kung-fu movie screenwriter, China put on a display of martial might unseen in those parts since the days of Tiananmen Square. Although the parade of tanks, missile launchers, and artillery tractors was billed as a dress rehearsal for a giant bash commemorating 50 years as a communist paradise, China made no bones about acknowledging it as an open threat to Taiwan, which continues to thumb its nose at its covetous brethren across the Formosa Strait. "All action attempting to split the motherland and block reunification of the nation will surely end in bloodshed as it smashes its head into this indestructible great wall of steel," penned one purple-veined military scribe. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990819c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No environmental activists were harmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Timor activists warn of cyber war. (BBC) Computer hackers plan to sabotage Indonesia's financial system if Jakarta rejects an East Timor vote for independence, warns a resistance leader. Get your investments out now: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_423000/423549.stm : Whose financial systems would you most like to sabotage? Does your belief system promote cyberwar? Is it cleaner/faster/better than nuke/bio/chem war? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # MSN MESSENGER EXPOSES PASSWORDS. As if the messenger mud-slinging between Microsoft and AOL weren't enough, a glitch in MSN Messenger gives easy access to user passwords. If the user quickly hits the stop button on the browser and then views the page HTML source, all of the user information is visible, including the password. MS counterspies interrogate suspected AOL agents. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21323.html # MS TO REVEAL MESSAGING CODE. Microsoft hopes to turn up the heat on America Online by publishing the specs for its instant messaging service. http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/business/story/21318.html : How many passwords have you collected? What have you done with them? How will you exploit the passwords? Are you having fun with them? Will the code specs let you hack/crash/penetrate/infect MS AOL more easily? Is you glad? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ships' sulphur fuels climate change. Sulphur emitted by ships may account for almost half the total going into the atmosphere in some parts of the oceans. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_422000/422856.stm # 122 Companies Responsible for Nearly 80 Percent of World's Fossil-Fuel Carbon Pollution, the Main Cause of Global Warming. Efforts to reduce carbon emissions must overcome resistance by fossil fuel producers, says new report: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/gbw.htm : Are you doing your share to promote/speed global warming? Do you emit much sulfur, carbon, other greenhouse gasses? Are your alien masters happy with y'r work? Do they reward you well? Will they let you live after the harvest? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # OZONE EXPOSURE BAD FOR KID'S LUNGS. A study of more than 1000 Australian children found that long-term exposure to ozone air pollution can impede lung function later in life. Another blow to the fad of ozone generators to "purify" the air in your home. Why not just irradiate the little snots? http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=15423 : Do you ozonify, irradiate, dehumidify, or otherwise process your residen- tial air? Does it help you, your kids, your visitors? Are you much improved? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Time to Hit the Dusty Trail - Burning Man or Bust. The elaborate art inst- allations that appear in the Nevada desert once a year don't get there by themselves. It's a long and dusty road, it's a hot and a heavy load. See http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21327.html : Have you run naked across a desert playa under a burning sky, chased by hot demons and cold aliens? Have you taken many drugs? Have you made art?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # US farmers in GM revolution. (BBC) Almost all processed food in the US could soon contain genetically modified ingredients, but unlike European consumers Americans do not seem to care. Just gimmee a cheap Big Mac: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_423000/423363.stm : What's your favorite genetically-modified food? Do you eat a lot of it? Do you only eat GM foods? Are you much improved? Have you mutated much? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # GPS Users Get Final Warning. The US Coast Guard tells users of the Global Positioning System to use alternative navigation when the satellite-based system turns to zero next week. Dust off the sextant, compass, star-chart: http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21336.html # And: GPS Satellite Rollover -- Ten Things You Could Lose: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/gps3.htm : Are you going anywhere? Will you get there? Are you lost yet? Why wait?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # WAR IS VIRTUAL HELL. If you thought Saving Pvt Ryan was the most realistic war movie ever made, just imagine what'll happen when the US Army teams up with the USC film school. Cue the warbots, get that virtual bloodbaths set up, roll'em: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21329.html # CYBER-SCHOOL'S NEVER OUT. In the Information Age, you may graduate, but y'll never stop learning. A leading authority on adult education predicts the classroom of the future will exist online. No more teachers' dirty looks:
[CTRL] Fw: [workbike] Report: Pedicabbing at the Iowa Straw Poll (long)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: jim gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: workbike list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 11:59 PM Subject: [workbike] Report: Pedicabbing at the Iowa Straw Poll (long) Last Saturday I worked the Iowa Straw Poll using my homebuilt pedicab Since this was the first time I had seriously carried people for profit, I thought I'd share my experiences for the benefit of other novices, and hopefully gain some advice from other pedicab operators who have more experience than I do. For those of you unfamiliar with this event, the Iowa Straw Poll polls members of the Iowa Republican Party to determine who will be the likely winner in the Iowa Republican presidential caucus next February. This is event has national significance because Iowa is the first state in the U.S. with a presidential election. It often winnows the field of presidential candidates, since candidates who do not do well in the poll frequently drop out of the race. The poll is closely followed by the national media. The event was held at Hilton Colliseum, which is located about five blocks from my house. Hilton is located on the north end of a huge, level parking lot. Immediately around and to the south of the Colliseum, nine of the presidential aspirants had each set up a large tent to attract supporters. To the south of these tents was an area reserved for bus parking (most candidates had chartered buses to bring supporters from all over the state--in fact, _all_ of the available chartered buses in this state and surrounding regions were chartered for this event) about 2-3 blocks from the Colliseum. To the south of the bus parking area was an area set aside for automobile parking for voters who drove to the event. This meant that anyone who drove to the event (and there were many!) had to walk at least four blocks over a large asphalt parking lot to vote and/or find their candidate's tent. Some 10,000 people were expected to attend, but this estimate turned out to be far too low. Some 25,000 people voted, and 35,000 people were estimated to have attended the event. My pedicab is based loosely on the Penang cabs described in Tony Wheeler's book, "Chasing Rickshaws". It has a tadpole wheel configuration (2 front wheels, 1 rear wheel) with the passengers sitting between and over the two front wheels. The cab has three speeds and a rear coaster brake. I'll post a picture and more information on it shortly at http://www.bikesatwork.com/services/pedicab.html I was a little apprehensive about working at this event. I hadn't insured my pedicab yet (I had just completed it the day before), nor had I received the permission of the Republican Party or Iowa State University (who owns Hilton Colliseum) to operate during the Poll. I didn't know if I would be allowed on the grounds, or if I would be thrown off the grounds once I started to operate. I arrived at the Colliseum parking lot around 11 AM. By that time, a sizeable crowd had already arrived, but many more were still coming. Most of the buses had not arrived yet. My fears of not being able to work at the event turned out to be unjustified; the event was more chaotic than I had expected, and no one was really in charge. I first made a loop around the area, making a note of where people were most people were walking from and where each candidate's tent was located. This information later proved to be invaluable, since most people, once they arrived, had no idea where their candidate's tent was located, and I was able to take them to where they were going quickly. I strongly recommend anyone who plans to operate a pedicab for a similar event to first locate all the important destinations (including restrooms and refreshment stands) before beginning. The largest flow of people was from the automobile parking area to the north toward the tents and Colliseum to the south. So, my plan was to ride north toward the parking area, look for passengers, then ferry them toward the tents. Being inexperienced at getting passengers, I felt a little awkward at first. It didn't seem appropriate to ask "Do you want a ride?" to everyone I met on the path toward the parking lot. Nor did I want to just sit still and wait for passengers to come to me, since I thought I'd have a better chance at finding prospects if I kept moving. I finally settled on the strategy of simply riding slowly and watching the people walking by in the opposite direction. If I saw someone smile at my cab or make a favorable comment, I'd offer "Would you like a ride?" This method wasn't always successful, but every second or third person I asked would usually accept. Based on the advice of other pedicab operators on this list, I did not set a standard rate, and worked only for tips. When people asked how much I charged, I replied "Whatever you want to pay" or "Whatever you feel is appropriate". Most people paid between $2 and $5. Not unexpectedly, I
Re: [CTRL] Turkey Quake
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: C Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I want to know...why were they there? Why were DoE Sec. Richardson and JCS Chair Gen. Shelton in Turkey? To oversee the quake, of course. We're still getting the bugs out of our tectonic-event-generating [TEG] technology. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Konformist: Garth Brooks and the New World Order
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the risk of being branded a conspiracy crank and card carrying member of the Art Bell fan club, I suggest that Garth is the nefar- ious, quasi-human progeny of a vast mind control operation behind the Country Western music industry itself. Note that Brooks' college major was Marketing, not Music. He's an expert at selling himself. He may have allied himself with the CMNWO in the process, but as a manipulator, not a stooge. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] fw: ON AMMONIA AND THE POPULATION EXPLOSION
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Science-Week [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 2:20 PM Subject: ScienceWeek - Complimentary Copy Attached, with our compliments, is a copy of the current issue of ScienceWeek. Claire Haller Managing Editor SCIENCE-WEEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scienceweek.com -- Enclosure number 1 SCIENCE-WEEK A Weekly Email Digest of the News of Science A journal devoted to the improvement of communication between the scientific disciplines, and between scientists, science educators, and science policy makers. August 20, 1999 -- Vol. 3 Number 34 --- It is impossible to dissociate language from science or science from language, because every natural science always involves three things: the sequence of phenomena on which the science is based; the abstract concepts which call these phenomena to mind; and the words in which the concepts are expressed. To call forth a concept, a word is needed; to portray a phenomenon, a concept is needed. All three mirror one and same reality. Words are thus required to preserve and transmit ideas, so that it is clear that the advancement of a science and the improvement of its technical vocabulary go hand in hand. No matter how certain we are of the phenomena, no matter how adequately our concepts reflect them, we cannot help perpetuating wrong ideas unless we have a precise terminology in which to express ourselves. -- Antoine Laurent Lavoisier (1743-1794) --- Contents of This Issue: 1. On Ammonia and the Population Explosion 2. On the Natural Occurrences of Diamond 3. On Rotating Superfluid Helium-3 4. Polarized Starlight and Amino Acid Homochirality 5. Cell Biology: Protein Sorting and Golgi Compartments 6. On Human Embryonic Stem Cell Research In Focus: On Horizontal Gene Transfer --- 1. ON AMMONIA AND THE POPULATION EXPLOSION Ammonia [NH(sub3)], a nitrogen hydride, is a colorless gas with a rather interesting human history that ranges from its discovery by the remarkable chemist Joseph Priestley (1733-1804) to the first large-scale synthetic production and use of ammonia in synthetic fertilizers and explosives in the 20th century. The human requirement for synthetic fertilizers and explosives is an instance of irony in the application of science, since the major use of synthetic fertilizers is in the production of crops to feed people, and the major use of explosives is in the production of weapons to kill people. Nitrogen compounds are essential to fertilizers and explosives, but in the early 20th century the best large-scale source of such compounds was in the nitrate deposits of Chile [*Note #1], which at that time was quite remote from Europe. Another possible source of nitrogen compounds, only theoretical at the time, was Earth's atmosphere, since the atmosphere is mostly nitrogen gas and therefore constitutes an inexhaustible supply. If atmospheric nitrogen could be converted to ammonia, the ammonia could be used in the synthesis of various nitrogen compounds, including fertilizers and explosives. Fritz Haber (1868-1934) and Carl Bosch (1874-1940) are credited with the discovery of the Haber-Bosch process for the synthesis of ammonia from its elements, a discovery that literally altered the course of 20th century history. The basis of the process is the combining of nitrogen and hydrogen at high pressure over a catalyst. Haber, who first demonstrated the synthesis in 1909, received the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 1918; Bosch, who engineered the application of the method to the large-scale production of ammonia, received the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 1931 [*Note #2]. ... ... Vaclav Smil (University of Manitoba, CA) presents an historical essay on the Haber-Bosch discovery, the author making the following points: 1) The author poses the question: What is the most important invention of the 20th century? The usual answers include airplanes, nuclear energy, space flight, television, and computers, but none of these are critical to human well-being. The synthesis of ammonia from its elements, however, is critical: the world's population could not have grown from 1.6 billion in 1900 to the 6 billion of today without the Haber-Bosch process. 2) The synthesis of ammonia belongs to that special group of discoveries -- including Edison's light bulb and the Wright brothers' flight -- for which we can pinpoint the date of the decisive breakthrough. The archives of Badische Anilin-Und Soda- Fabrik (BASF) contain a letter from Haber, at that time Professor of Physical Chemistry at Technische Hochschule in Karlsruhe, to the company directors, a letter in which Haber recounts how the previous day the first demonstration to company scientists of the synthesis of ammonia from nitrogen and hydrogen was made:
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990817d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No brittle mentalities disintegrated during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ORB MYSTERY *S*O*L*V*E*D*?! "Are there Aliens haunting us from a river basin in New Jersey? Entering our world through a little known portal called the 'Vortex'??.NOT! Welcome to 'Orb World'!.. ..Where nearly anyone can find aliens in their own back yard!!" The world of orbs: http://members.aol.com/Analogsys/index2.html : Have you been orbed yet? Are you an orb? Have you found any aliens in your back yard? Do you have pictures of them? Do they have pictures of you? Yeah? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # An Oddity in Space Baffles Experts. (NYTimes) Astronomers have an unyield- ing mystery on their hands, something they have observed pondered for 3 years, a point of light deep in the northern sky like nothing seen before. http://nytimes.com/library/national/science/081799sci-mystery-star.html : Do you like mysteries? Are scientific mysteries good for enhancing your reputation, should you figger'em out? Are questions better than answers?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE HEAT IS ON(line): This site, based on the book The Heat Is On, by Ross Gelbspan: Shows the truth about climate change; Shows the central drama: the ability of this planet to sustain civilization vs. the survival of the fossil fuel biz; Catalogues the last 4 years of increasingly frequent and severe extreme weather events worldwide; Summarizes the major scientific findings about global warming; Documents a pervasive/successful industry disinfo campaign; Outlines a global solution which may begin to stabilize our inflamed climate, at the same time triggering an unprecedented gain in overall wealth of the global economy. http://www.heatisonline.org/main.cfm : Did humans evolve as a homeostatic mechanism to increase the ambient plan- etary temperature of Gaia? Is global warming our job? Is resistance futile? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Giant Antarctic iceberg poses threat to shipping. WASHINGTON (AP) The U.S. National Ice Center issued a warning Tuesday a giant iceberg is posing a threat to shipping in the ocean between South America and Antarctica. The iceberg, named B-10A, measures 24 by 48 miles (39 by 77 kilometers). It is drifting southeast at about seven to nine miles (11 to 14 km) per day and smaller icebergs are breaking off as it moves into relatively warmer seas. A cautionary zone has been established 165 miles (234 km) in radius around the berg. http://cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9908/17/BC-US-IceDanger.ap/ : How much more global warming will it take before icebergs swarm the seas, making ocean traffic around the capes impossible? Are humans causing global warming all by ourselves, or are aliens/deities/demons/Gaia help us? Why?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SUBSET OF CHILDREN SHOW SIGNS OF VIOLENT FUTURE. Here's the unpleasant truth: Physicians cannot reliably identify children who go on to commit random, uncharacteristic acts of violence, such as the recent school shootings: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/10972.rhtml # Also: Clinton to parents: Talk to kids about violence: http://cnn.com/US/9908/17/youth.violence.02/index.html # SOCIAL ISOLATION, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MENTAL ILLNESS LINKED TO SUICIDE IN YOUNG PEOPLE. People under 35 years who commit suicide are significantly more likely than their peers to have a history of psychological disorders, social isolation, and interpersonal difficulties. http://psychiatry.medscape.com/10997.rhtml # Also: Students' return to Columbine marred by swastikas: http://cnn.com/US/9908/17/columbine.swastikas.ap/index.html : What are the most effective ways to drive children towards violence, psy- chopathologies, social dysfunction? Who practices those techniques? Why?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Lawsuit claims Maryland task force is religious inquisition. BALTIMORE (AP) A Maryland task force studying religious cults on college campuses is violating constitutional rights and conducting a "religious inquisition," according to a lawsuit filed by Seventh-day Adventists and Unification Church members. http://cnn.com/US/9908/17/cults.campuses.ap/index.html : What cults, religions, sects, philosophies would you like to investigate? Would you like to recruit impressionable youth into your belief system? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # The False Memory Debate: Social Science or Social Backlash? http://www.mentalhealth.com/mag1/p5h-mem3.html # Budding Campaign - Pot users urged to fight arrests, promote legalization: http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/norml17.htm # Stanford tested psychiatric drugs on young inmates: http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/drug17.htm #
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990816a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No political operatives were harmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Do You Believe In Magic? ROME (Reuters) Nearly a quarter of Italians believe in magic, fortune-telling, astrology and spiritualism, spending a total one billion lire ($547,000) per year on them, according to a poll released Friday. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990816/08/odd-italy-magic : Does magic work for you? Do you work for magic? How much cash do you spend on fortune-telling, spellcasting, hope? What's your Return On Investment?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Scientists see Susy. (BBC) The first experimental evidence for a theory of matter called supersymmetry may have been uncovered. Antigravity particles too? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_421000/421929.stm @ Links: Particle Physics in the UK: http://hepweb.rl.ac.uk/ppuk/ @ Guide to CERN: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~jward/guide/cerntextpics.html @ The Particle Adventure: http://pdg.lbl.gov/cpep/adventure_home.html # Also: Hunting the Higgs: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_299000/299550.stm # Matter or antimatter, that is the question: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_336000/336001.stm # Getting to the heart of the matter: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_86000/86030.stm : How is your universe structured? How did it get that way? Would you like to change its basic structure? Into what? What's your favorite antiparticle? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CuraGen Discovers 55,000 Genetic Variations. NEW HAVEN, Conn. (Reuters) CuraGen Corp., a drug discovery and development company, said that it has discovered more than 55,000 genetic variations (cSNPs) located in human genes. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990816/08/science-health-curagen : How many variations are in YOUR genes? Are you damaged, distorted, mutant, misengineered? Did your creator(s) really muck you up, gene-wise? How come?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ACLU may sue over evolution decision. TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) The American Civil Liberties Union says school districts could face lawsuits if they attempt to teach creationism in wake of the state school board's recent decision to de-emphasize the teaching of evolution. Other groups may join in - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560705705-40d : Did you evolve, with the prospect of evolving further, getting better? Or were you created just as you are, with no hope of any improvements? Why??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Navigation bug fears. (BBC) Sailors, pilots and hikers around the world are warned that their Global Positioning Systems may fail next Saturday, when the system's time signals will automatically reset themselves to "week zero". Some receiving systems, particularly older ones, may believe the date is 6 January, 1980, and fail. Don't get lost in the woods, eh? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_421000/421553.stm @ Links: GPS Links: http://www.cnde.iastate.edu/gps.html @ Navstar GPS: http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/nav/gps.htm @ Magellan: http://www.magellangps.com/ @ Garmin: http://www.garmin.com/ : Will you be lost when GPS resets? Will your plane crash? Will Reptilioid operatives use this opportunity to disorient humanity? Will anyone notice? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Bush Refuses to Answer Rumors of Cocaine Use: http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/Reuters19990814_463.html http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/08/14/president.2000/bush.interview/ # Author of FIDNET Computer Surveillance Plan Tries to Ease Fears: http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/08/biztech/articles/16monitor.html # Making The World Safe For Wiretaps: http://www.msnbc.com/news/301009.asp # Shooting unites religious groups - Jews Episcopals mingle: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560726363-ed0 # Also: Anti-Semitism fans new violence, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560708820-26a # And: Report says officer lax with LA suspect, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560707197-a8f @ International Crop Circle Database: http://www.interalpha.net/customer/pvigay/CCDataBase.html @ Appointment With An Alien: http://users.iol.it/an.digaetano/medium.htm @ UFOs in Italy, talk in English: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/ufoitaly @ Skeptical References: http://www.hutch.demon.co.uk @ More Roswell Stuff: http://www.roswellrods.com/pre.html @ UFOs-R-Us, etc: http://www.ufo-net.clara.net # Gun show held at Colorado school - "screw Columbine": http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560724416-e8c # Also: Students set to return to Columbine, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560714706-a68 # And:
Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Monday #1]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] "ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : How many variations are in YOUR genes? Are you damaged, distorted, mutant, misengineered? Did your creator(s) really muck you up, gene- wise? How come?? I will have you know, sir, that I am a veritable MASS of sublethal recessive traits... Ah, another un-indicted co-conspirator. But, aren't we all? Obviously, The Conspiracy has successfully implanted genetic time-bombs into all of humanity, as part of their preparations for the Reptilioid harvest. We're fattened and weakened, gene-tromped and lipid-stuffed, whilst we burn more fossil fuels, raising ambient temperatures to Reptoid comfort levels. Your sublethal recessive pattern is no accident, no coincidence, but another step in a careful plan to rid Earth of us. Yow. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Eagle 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just my input: Common DNA ancestory isn't even an argument. All mammals have common DNA, (and so what?). Gee, why d'ya think THAT is? Possible explanations: 1) It's unknowable. 2) Deities, or alien entities masquarading as deities, created all life on earth from a common model, but with just enough variation so that humans would be tricked into thinking that humans and other animals actually shared a common ancestry, when actually we're all constructs. 3) Humans and all other lifeforms known actually DID evolve from common ancestors. Mammals have similar DNA because we're all related. The degree of DNA similarity reliably indicates the span of relatedness. Guess what? Number three (3) works. If you have a more comprehensive, more parsimonious explanation, please whip it out. EVOLUTION is the lie of millennial and historical proportions. Evolution can be observed (cf. influenza). You are writing nonsense. Regrets. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do omnipotent conspiracies exist that control information, politics, economics? Unknowable - if such conspiracies DO exist, all one THINKS one knows about them derives from data that they control; thus the conspiratorialist is their dupe, manipulated by all their leaks, their disinfo campaigns. Not so, since even "grand" conspiracies can't control all infor- mation all the time. It is possible to get unmodified information and form an opinion. How can you be sure about that? How can you be sure that anything you think you know about a conspiracy hasn't been fabricated and leaked by the conspiracy? How do we know that you aren't and agent of The Conspiracy, working to lull us into believing that some of what is posted here is true/relevant? How do you know that I'm not an agent of The Conspiracy, working to discredit all investigators? That's my point - once one posits the existence of a sufficiently powerful conspiracy, NOTHING can be trusted, NO information can be accepted, NOBODY can be who they seem/claim. Paranoia Central, eh? It is true though that since much of what is disseminated is controlled as disinformation (or truth if it suits their purpose) it is difficult to KNOW if any given conspiracy is in fact "real". It is not unknowable, just difficult to uncover. A good disinfo campaign is like an onion, with many layers, each peeled away to reveal another, then another, ad infinitum, until a 'core' of truth is reached - but there's no core there, no truth, just air, skin after skin of onion-paper covering... nothing... so, what's to uncover? Is there any 'there' there? How can we tell? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Liddy Dole Supports Kansas
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Stephen Carville [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Liddy Dole Supports Kmansas Richard Uhrich wrote: Omigod! I just saw it on "Meet the Press." She thinks it should be left to the states to decide whether religious fanatics therein can block the teaching of important scientific facts they disagree with in public schools. This may sound a bit conspiratorial but has anyone ever looked into the funding for these Creationists groups? They all try to portray themselves as defending Truth, Justice and, the American way but, in the long run, the groups who will benefit most are foreign companies that compete with US firms. What better way to sabotage a country's future economy than to make sure it's next generation of scientists are saddled with a load of superstitious codswallop? -- Stephen Carville [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's all right to have geniuses build systems for use by idiots, but the path from laboratory to marketplace needs to go through the proving ground of prudent engineering. Peter Coffee DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Campaign 2000 - a Socialist candidate (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 99-08-15 17:43:17 EDT, Ric Carter writes: But when people define socialism/communism as being ANY community/gov't intrusion in economic activity, they're just plain wrong. Bother. In socialism/communism government owns the means of production, if that isn't intrusion in economic activity ... What IS? If you choose to answer, please use common english rather than riddles. Answers are less important than questions, so I like to ask questions. How do you define socialism and communism, and distinguish between them? If they're the same, do you mind if I use RED to mean social/commun-istic? Does "means of production" include education? If so, then are public schools inherently RED? If US public schools over the last couple of centuries trained a workforce that consistently out-produces and out- designs the rest of the world, is US world dominance a RED trick? Does "means of production" include highways and other communications infrastructure? If so, then are non-private networks of roads, wires, etc. RED? Are the gov't -built road nets in the US, and the tremendous economic traffic they carry, all RED tricks? Are gov't-run postal communications a RED trick? Was Benjamin Franklin a commie? Does "means of production" include providing medical, health, sanitation services? Are gov't-run hospitals, clinics, pest-abatement programs, garbage haulers, water suppliers, health/safety monitoring, food drug inspections, all RED tricks? Were all US Surgeons General commies? OK, here's a view: People gather in all sorts of combinations to perform actions they can't do by themselves. They organize groups that may last briefly or for a long time. They charter/incorporate organizations for purposes that benefit more than a single individual. Such corporations may be commercial, hoping for monetary profits; or non-commercial, hoping for social benefits; or governmental, hoping to regularize the interactions between individuals and groups and organizations. Commercial non-commercial groups [which I'll refer to here as Non-Gov't Orgs, NGOs] are chartered under the laws of the locality, state, nation in which they operate; those that don't, are outlaws, literally. In our democratic republic, gov't is the common expression of the will of the voting population; NGOs serve much more limited constituencies. So NGOs exist/operate under rules created/ enforced by representatives of the electorate. Is it gov't intrusion for the electorate to want health/safety laws? Is it gov't intrusion for the electorate to want certain standards of behavior, like criminalizing assault, battery, murder, theft, fraud? Is it gov't intrusion for the electorate to want NGOs to be accountable for their activities, activities that affect the economic and social and physical health of the populace? Is it gov't intrusion for the electorate to want industries to NOT pollute air/land/water, to want NGOs to NOT hand out bribes, to want groups to NOT discriminate on the basis of gender, ethnicity, belief? OK, here's another view: I am suspicious of those why decry gov't intrusion. I suspect they wish to do things that will gain benefits for themselves while injuring the economic, social and/or physical health of many others. I suspect the self-serving, the demagogues, the frenzy-wallahs who try to polarize the populace. I also suspect the intellectually lazy who label whatever they don't like "communist". But normally I'm pretty easy-going. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New York, New York
-Caveat Lector- Yeah, when I went to NYC from San Bernadino in 1968, aged 18, all that kept me in the Big Apple were 1) having all my possessions stolen, and 2) being charged with possession of explosives. As soon as those things were resolved, I was outta there. Yow. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New York, New York
-Caveat Lector- Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my wonderful accommodations whilst I inhabited The Heart Of The Capitalist World. The X-flat [condemned tenament] on E.11th St. between B C Aves, with regular shootings/ knifings/etc. The unventilated closet over Cooper Square. The old residential hotel on Broadway near Bleeker, which collapsed all by itself a few years later. Interesting people in that hotel. The holocaust survivor who screamed in his nightmares every night. The bikeless bikers who robbed graves to sell skulls to rich Satanists. The guy who suicided in his tub two floors above me and left the water running; it was only when the the room below his filled up and started dripping into mine that anyone noticed anything was amiss. Then there were those great Mob guys who ran the trash- hauling company I did day-labor at, for minimum wage. Nice. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: UFOMIND: Miscellanea #118: Janet History; Cybersuit Update
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 3:04 PM Subject: UFOMIND: Miscellanea #118: Janet History; Cybersuit Update - 16 Forwarded Messages Follow. Some reformatted by moderator. - JANET AIRCRAFT HISTORY Via: Dave Bethke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forwarded from rec.aviation.misc ... Subject: Re: who owns/operates a Boeing 737(?) N4529W Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:10:24 -0700 From: "Roger Ramjet" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: rec.aviation.misc These 737-200 aircraft, and seven others were purchased from Western Airlines in 1981. AirCal, now defunct, did the major maintenance on these aircraft at their Oakland California overhaul base. The white with red stripe paint scheme of these aircraft are actually the old Western paint scheme sans the Western logo on the aft sides of the fuselage and vertical stab. The aircraft at that time were flown and crewed by Lockheed Aircraft Service Company employees based out of Ontario, California. These aircraft were based out of Palmdale California, at USAF Plant 42, next to the hangar where the space shuttle was built. The aircraft were loaded with passengers at Palmdale, then a short flight to Burbank for more and then on to that "secret place" in the desert. Currently EGG has the contract to transport DOD employees to "the ranch" in Nevada. The official name of the program was "ECLIPSE", we even had a logo. I belive it meant flying from the light - into the dark. I am not sure when Lockheed AIrcraft Services lost the contract, I believe it was the early 80's, I was long gone by then to greener pastures with the airlines. The original contract was crewed, managed and maintained by ex-Air Force types. Quite a professional and proud group - I ought to know - I was one on them. Roger Ramjet = BLACK HELICOPTERS From: "Dunn, Steven J." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'CE List'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:44:15 -0700 Subject: Black helicopters in Jane's Defence Weekly From: "Dunn, Steven J." [EMAIL PROTECTED] There in an article in the 28 July 1999 issue of _Jane's Defence Weekly_ that may be of interest to members of the addressed lists. It is entitled, "The Disappearing Helicopter" and, in highly non-ufologically-oriented style (as would be expected), deals with the "black helicopter" phenomon. Ex: "There is a persistent legend, fostered by occasional eye-witness testimony, that the US government has developed a helicopter so stealthy that part of its repertoire includes the ability to run silently." Groom Lake and tests in the SW US are also prominently mentioned. = CONTRADICTION IN TERMS? From: "Gavin, A (Adam)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Amazing programme Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:37:39 +0200 I watched a program last night on TV - it was amazing. I just wanted to say that I admire you for following your convictions and becoming dedicated to revealing the truth. From the evidence presented on the TV it seems that there is no doubt that there are some kinds of advanced flying objects being developed there in area 51. Good luck in your quest. [What an interesting oxymoron: "evidence presented on TV". --GC] = AREA 51 MOVED From: [withheld]@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:12:06 EDT Subject: area-51 move To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I AM EMAILING U TO TELL YOU THAT AREA 51 HAS MOVED FROM OVER THE MOUNTAIN OUTSIDE RACHEL TO WHITE SANDS,COLORADO AND MCNEALLY AIR FORCE BASE IN TAH( I MAY NOT BE CORRECT ON MCNEALLY, I JUST E-MAILED HTIS SO U COULD TELL EVERYONE THAT VISIST YOUR SITE THANK YOU , TORY WEAVER, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = COMMAND WANTED (WITHOUT RISK) From: [withheld]@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:17:09 EDT Subject: area 51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I have been searching the entire internet on information for area 51 @ (Groom Lake.) And i came across your site. You see I want to know all about the aliens such as the "Grays" and other alien life. I also want to join Area 51 or something that has to do with the research of E.T. But i dont want to have to risk my life. I want to become one of the head officers and command others what to do. I also want to know the facts before everybody elso. So if you got any info please notify me. By the way, i came acorss this site. http://www.area51.org ... And it said access denied. I would like access, but i suppose that would be extremely unlikely. Thankyou for your time and please reaspond. = GOD OR AREA 51? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:24:21 EDT
Re: [CTRL] New York, New York
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was told in no uncertain terms by one of my co-workers to leave it alone. Why? Because another business on the street had paid the Mob protection for that parking space! The Mafia controlled all of the trash collection, too. My sister the artist moved from Southern California [where she sculpted crap for plaster models sold in craft shops] to Southern Nevada [where she painted signs and murals for casinos] to New York [where she's now a security supervisor for the subways, when she's not painting/sculpting representations of subway passengers/lurkers.] She found a nice cheap apartment above a Mob funeral parlor near Police HQ. I drove out there a couple years ago. It's a nice safe place to park, in front of a Mob mortuary. We stuck an ATTENDING FUNERAL sign in the windshield and left the Jeep there for days, nobody bothers it, nobody. Anyway, the Mob still controls trash collection, not just in big East Coast cities, but everywhere. I've got a cousin-in-law running a big recycling center near L.A., and he says they still run all the haulage, all the trucks and drivers. Hey, this is a Conspiracy list, how come nobody discusses the mundane conspiracies, the conspiracies that suck us dry on the little things, like trash? Bilderbergers, Illuminati, these are all rather abstract, not like the very concrete conspiracies running blue-collar America. Garbage/trucking/mortuary conspiracies are real, immediate, inarguable. How many of the contributors here are paid agents of La Cosa Nostra, distracting us from reality? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2
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@ (from Eagle 1) It seems the DAY OF DESTINY came, and it went... 13 August,
without any significant occurrence. What's next on the Aztec calendar?
Here's an interesting link to research: http://www.dayofdestiny.com
Did you miss The End Of The World (Aztec)? Will you miss it next time too??
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# 450 Years Of Observable Strange Activity On The Moon! (NASA) A catalog of
reports of lunar events, has been compiled based on literature covering
more than four centuries. The purpose of this catalog is to index histor-
ical and modern records that may be useful in investigations of possible
activity on the moon. http://www.mufor.org/tlp/lunar.html
: What's your favorite unexplained Lunar activity? Were you involved in it??
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@ CROP CIRCLE CONTRAIL CONNECTION. "I have been both observing and
studying the "contrail" phenomenon for the past 6 months. I have
recently made an uncanny connection between crop circles and this
'weather modification experiment?'." http://www.caus.org/ccr081699.htm
: Have you cut any crop circles lately? Did you modify weather patterns with
the crop circles? Did your alien masters help you? Are you hypnotized? How?
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# Stunning High Level French Government Report On UFOs And Defense. (CNI) On
July 16, 1999, a document was published in France called "UFOs and Defense
-- What Must We Be Prepared For?" ("Les OVNI et la Defense. A quoi doit-on
se preparer?") This ninety-page report is the result of an in depth study
of UFOs covering many aspects of the subject, especially questions of
defense. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/frenchufo.htm
: Can Earth be defended against aliens? Can aliens defend themselves against
humans? Who's more dangerous? Have any aliens threatened your security? How?
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# Indian population nears 1 bln. NEW DELHI (AP) - Buzzing scooters, banana
carts and rickshaws jostle with the beggars and children for a pinch of
space in the overstuffed alleys of Delhi's old city. India's population is
about to hit 1 billion; the crammed country looks ready to burst. Roughly
one in six people on Earth is Indian. There are about 72,000 Indians born
every day, and the population grows by about 16 million a year - almost
equivalent to adding the whole population of Australia every 12 months.
See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560724811-c86
: Is one Australia enough? Would a new Australia every year be too much? Do
you like Australia? Where would all the Indians go? Where would YOU go? Why?
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# Bio Weapons Said More Devastating Than Nukes. SYDNEY (AFP) Effective germ-
laden weapons have been developed and can potentially cause far greater
devastation than nuclear arms, bio-terrorism experts report. The Soviet
Union had successfully developed warheads filled with anthrax, smallpox,
plague and the Ebola virus. The experiments went on into the early 1990s
despite the Soviet Union signing the international treaty banning toxin
weapons in 1972. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/biodev.htm
: Would you rather be nuked, gassed, infected, burnt, eaten by crocodiles or
ants? Do you breed Ebola in your home lab? Have you tested it? Does it work?
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# Shoppers raise GM food fear. (BBC) Shoppers fear the UK Government may
be deliberately misleading them over genetically-modified (GM) foods.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_421000/421575.stm
@ Links: Environment Agency: http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/
@ Friends of the Earth - list of GM crop test sites:
http://www.foe.co.uk/camps/foodbio/queries/
: Does/should your gov't mislead you about Frankenfoods? Do you prefer GM
eats? Do they restore your vitality, your zing glow? Do you glow much? Why?
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# 200,000 Catholics gather in Vietnam for mass. LA VANG, Vietnam (AP) - A
massive gathering of Roman Catholics wrapped up Sunday with a sunrise Mass
and questions lingering about whether Vietnam's communist government has
become more tolerant of religion. More than 200,000 people streamed into
tiny central village of La Vang for the 3-day event, which commemorated
the 200th anniversary of a sighting of an apparition of the Virgin Mary.
It is the only such sighting ever reported in Southeast Asia. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560723317-654
: Does Mary generally avoid Indochina? Why? Is it the climate, the people,
the politics, the aliens? If your were Mary, where would you avoid? Why??
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# 2 accused of drug sale over Internet.
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990916c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No Elvis sightings were reported during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # A Century Of Ingenuity. PARIS (AFP) - Human ingenuity knows no bounds. The spirit of innovation has powered progress since the creation of the first handaxe. And the 20th century has seen an explosion of inventive genius unparalleled in history. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/ing.htm : Have you invented anything lately? Does anyone use your invention? Were you paid for it? Did you alien masters help you? Do they collect royalties? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Entering The Millenium: Facing The Threat Of Self-Extinction. PARIS (AFP) For the first time in history mankind enters a new century facing threats of self-inflicted extinction. With explosive population growth bringing not just more people but also more pollution, more greenhouse gases, more toxic waste and more irreversible damage to the biosphere, the environment has moved in 100 years from a peripheral to a central focus of the global political agenda. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/threat.htm : Are you ready for extinction? Have humans faced extinction before? Do you relish the thought of extinction? Do you work for the Reptilioids? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ JOHN A. KEEL is joining the panel, "The UFO: Anomaly, Reality, Implica- tions," at THE PROPHETS CONFERENCE being held in picturesque Port Town- send, Washington, during the weekend of AUGUST 27-29. He will be joined on this unprecedented panel by JOE FIRMAGE, DR. EDGAR MITCHELL, DR. ROBERT ANTON WILSON, DR. STEVEN GREER, DR. JOHN MACK, and MARCIA SCHAFER. Each of the panelists will also present an individual workshop and Keel's presentation is entitled: "Carnival of the Mind: How the Human Race Is the Side Show for the Universe." http://greatmystery.org/prophets.html : What prophets would you pay to see/hear/experience/mindmeld/fornicate/off? Have you interacted with many prophets before? Are they fun, tedious, weird? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Australia recruited Nazis. MELBOURNE (AP) Australia secretly recruited Nazi scientists, including former members of Hitler's SS guards, for defense projects after World War II, Australian newspapers reported Monday. The allegations come from information in previously classified documents from the country's National Archives. Ben Chifley, then prime minister, allowed at least 127 Nazi scientists into the country to work on government defense projects, the papers said. But they despised Aussie beer. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560731899-00c @ Also: Really Vile AntiSemitic Propaganda: http://www.jewwatch.com : Are our Nazis better than their Nazis? Are your Nazis better than mine? Do you work with any Nazis now? Are they only following orders? Are you? Why?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The BotGames: Made for TV? A weekend robot competition drew engineers, games enthusiasts, and lots of kids. Is it the next great spectator sport? http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21284.html : Have you designed/built any killer 'bots lately? Is it fun? Did you incor- porate teledildonic technology in them? Are they competitive, virile, buff? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # All Eyes on Columbine. Crime's down, but fear's up -- especially in Littleton, Colorado. So Columbine High kids are returning to school watched by video cameras and carrying ID cards. We're watching you: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21277.html : Do you feel safer when you're under surveillance? Do you like to watch? Do you like to be watched? Do you really need privacy? Would you give it up??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Fans mark death of Elvis Presley. MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) Elvis Presley fans sobbed at his grave, tapped their toes to rock 'n' roll and dressed like their idol to mark the 22nd anniversary of his death. Up to 4,000 devotees gathered in the street in front of Presley's Graceland mansion to light candles from a torch at Presley's grave before walking single file up the driveway to the grave beside Graceland's swimming pool. Then they were abducted: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560729729-c77 : Have you seen Elvis lately? Did the Reptilioids mistreat him? Is he fat?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Space Business Archives: created in 1992 by industry officials convinced that the history of commercial space flight was being lost thru destruct- ion of documents and departure of key industry personnel through industry downsizing and retirements. They amassed thousands of pages of business plans, proposals, video tapes, pictures and other key papers (many one-of- a-kind) that otherwise would be lost to history.
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990815a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No petty thugs were harmed to produce this bulletin. Run Lola Run! Faster! _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Smoke Screen. Will the easy availability of drugs on the Internet make U.S. drug policy obsolete? Order hashish online, no hassle, no wait: http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/07.22.99/cover/marijuana-9929.html : What are your favorite drugs? Do they interfere with your alien implants? Can Reptilioids metabolize cannabis? Do they go nutz? Are they entertaining? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Dagestan rebels hit hard. (BBC) Islamic separatists fighting in Dagestan are appealing for reinforcements following the launch of a major Russian offensive to drive them out, Moscow says. But what is Dagestan worth? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_419000/419838.stm : What religio/politico/economic movement would you like to crush? How? Do you like sacrificing rebels? Do your alien masters approve, devour, sleep? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Make-Believe Mars. Scientists and engineers are hard at work on a manned mission to Mars, starting with a simulated space station in the Canadian Arctic. http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/07.29.99/mars-9930.html : What planet do you most like to simulate? When are you going there? How?? Where can you simulate your target planet? What equipment do you need? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Apocalypse Geist Force Conspiracy Theory! (GameFan) Could this UFO be a hint that the project formerly known as Geist Force is back on track? http://www.gamefan.com:80/hotinfo.asp?s=2177rs=0 : What's your favorite apocalypse? Is it a game? Is it real? How d'ya know? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Kids Guns - How the NRA and gun manufacturers are targeting your kid. http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.29.99/guns-9930.html # Understanding Gun Violence: Join Together Online, a project of the Boston University of Public Health, provides community resources for those trying to make sense out school shootings. Or you could sell guns to kids and sit back, watch the blood pour out: http://www.jointogether.org/ : Do you provide weapons training? Is it rewarding? Does you implant buzz?? How many humans do you want to kill? How many do your alien masters demand? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Orb Data Passaic County. In Response To: Why I warn people, myself. (Jack A. Shulman) A guy named "Jack" (website http://www.accpc.com) writes: "This forum [ http://byamerican.com/cgi-bin/ast/config.cgi ] [...It's] a serious look at whether or not we can legitimate the claims of people [...] that humanity is being observed and/or visited by Aliens of some kind." http://www.orbsite.com/ : Have you been observed/visited by Aliens lately? Have you observed/visited any Aliens lately? Were you or the aliens repulsed by your experiences? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Messiah Mosh. Bay Area punks fire up their angst for Christ. http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sfmetro/06.21.99/punkgod1-9923.html Plus, where to find Christian punk bands in Sonoma County CA USA: http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.08.99/godrock2-9927.html : What's your favorite loud, obnoxious, disconcerting religious music? D'ya promulgate it everywhere? Do some go Satanic in response? Is that your goal? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Inside the Helidon religious cult. THE Magnificat Meal Movement fears an explosive birthday celebration next month with their leader likening them to the Branch Davidian cult in Waco TX. Movement leader Debra Geileskey said she identified with the Branch Davidians, who died in a fire and shootout with American authorities six years ago. But then she ritually sacrifices kangaroos. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/state/4302579.htm # SWAT Nation. In the post-Columbine hysteria, even the tiny town of Windsor CA has voted to arm its police with assault weapons. Where's it all going to lead? http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.01.99/swat1-9926.html : Does your belief system promote weaponry? Will your believers do suicide soon? Will you commit mass murder? Who would you like to kill? Who else?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Global Crop Circles Research site: http://www.abel.co.uk/~sayer @ Crop circle hoaxers website: http://www.circlemakers.org @ XXX PICS: http://www.nettaxi.com/fcitizens/adult168/dp/p3.htm @ Secret stuff: http://www.freezone.org/mc/e_conv04.htm @ Hear UFO audio files: http://www.edwardsufo.com @ UFOlogy in the UK: http://members.xoom.com/ufologyuk/UFO @ Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm). http://www.talkway.com @ UFO search: http://welcome.to/ufosearch @ Blair Witch Is Trash: http://www.catfighters.net/movies/index.html @ Paranormal Message Board:
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990815b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : I hope no surfers were eaten by sharks during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # PLUTONIUM-POWERED SPACECRAFT TO ZOOM BY EARTH ON WAY TO SATURN. A 2-story, $3.4 billion spacecraft loaded with of deadly plutonium will zoom within 725 miles of Earth this week to gain momentum for the final leg of its meandering, seven-year voyage to Saturn. Cassini's return, two years after NASA launched the largest and most expensive unmanned spacecraft ever, poses virtually no risk, mission officials say. Closest point over South Pacific: http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9908/15/cassini.spacecraft.01.ap/ : Will Cassini bash into Earth, spreading a biosphere-killing load of Pu238? Is http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/cassini/rtg/power.htm all a lie? Are you ready to die? Is it The End? Is your will made out? Did you bother with a will? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Fans Celebrate Elvis Week. MEMPHIS, Tenn. (Reuters) In Memphis some locals call it "Dead Elvis Week," and it was in full swing once again as zillions of Elvis Presley fans poured into town to mark the 22nd anniversary of the rock and roll king's death. Presley was found dead Aug.16 1977 at Grace- land, the white-columned southern mansion that is the focal point for the celebration. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990815/00/news-people-elvis : Is Elvis really dead? Or was he abducted by Grays, imprisoned by fascists, elevated to a higher dimension, morphed into a salamander, or lost in space? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # LIFE IS DUCKY WHEN MRS. MALLARD CHOOSES HER MATE. Offspring do better when the female is allowed to choose her mate - in the mallard duck family, anyway. But it makes sense, doesn't it? Or does it? http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14239 # WOMEN CLUELESS ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL AGGRESSION. According to this new study, women engage in aggressive sexual behaviors that are usually associated with men - but when asked about it, they don't own up to it. Why bother? http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14242 : Are choice aggression two sides of the same coin? Are you an aggressive female mallard? Who do you choose? Are you candid about your behavior? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China Blasts US Over Dalai Lama Visit. BEIJING (Reuters) China accused the United States of meddling in its internal affairs after a State Dept wonk met the Dalai Lama in New York, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader. Played poker: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990814/06/international-china-tibet : Whose internal affairs would you most like to meddle with? Who's your fave spiritual leader? Do you bankroll any spiritual leaders? Are spiritual lead- ers useful propaganda purveyors? Are they controlled by humans, Reptilioids, deities, demons, robots? Are spiritual leaders honest? Do they stay bought? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Psychiatrist Legally Amasses Huge Gun Arsenal. (Reuters) - A Philadelphia psychiatrist, reportedly legally blind, legally amassed an arsenal of 287 assault rifles, shotguns pistols plus 50,000 rounds of ammo, valued at $300,000. Cops seized the firepower from Dr. John Ingui's two apartments in an upscale city high-rise but later declared the collection to be quite legal. Among the collection the psychiatrist is now expected to get back are 61 assault rifles, including 29 AK-47s, and 150 semiautomatic pistols, including a number of powerful Desert Eagle handguns. Just hunting mice and pigeons: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990814/10/news-guns-arsenal : Should all blind psychiatrists be well-armed? Do pshrinks need protection from disgruntled patients? How many AK-47s do you need? Are you prudent??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # RESEARCHER BUILDS INEXPENSIVE, ASPIRIN-SIZE INTERNET COMPUTER. The latest from the cyberworld: an aspirin-size computer that, embedded in household appliances, could let people on the road or at the office use the Net to cool their homes, heat coffee tape TV shows. Thought to be the smallest such computer ever built, the inexpensive device could help usher in a new generation of connected home appliances, from VCRs to coffee makers to small cameras, controlled over the Internet from almost anywhere. Costs just 49 cents: http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/14/tiny.computer.ap/ : What appliances would you like to control? What appliances would like to control you? When will everything be enmeshed in a huge seamless web? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Shootings Latest In Crimes Tied To Separatists. SEATTLE (Reuters) The Los Angeles shootings that left one person dead five wounded were the latest in a string of racist attacks tied to a movement that dreams of creating a whites-only nation
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Forwarded Message - From: James Thomas Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:44:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution delurk In a message dated 99-08-13 17:15:07 EDT, you write: Apes - monkeys, same thing. Why is it that the people who support this theory can never explain why there are still "apes" as well as humans? You obviously never talked to me. The evolution of a new species does not mean that the basic stock either goes existence, or that there must only be one descendent branch. Consider that wolves, dogs and foxes descend from a common ancestor, but the rise of one to fill an ecological niche doesn't mean that the others must go extinct. Humans and apes descended from a common ancestor. The rise of humans does not mean that apes must have been replaced. You could extend this nonsense argument to ask why there are still fish when amphibians exist, or why are there still amphibians when there are reptiles, or why there are still reptiles when there are mammals, or why there are still dinosaurs when there are birds, uh, strike that last one :-). That is my point, evolution is only a theory, not fact, same as creationism, so why not present both theories and let the student use his/her mind and decide for themselves rather than be brainwashed by lack of "scientific" evidence. Calling a theory "scientific evidence" is disinformation ... it is not viable, it is not "observed evidence." How can one observe evolution? Gravity is "just a theory". If you believe that there is no evidence for evolution, you have either never seriously look for evidence, or are being willfully ignorant. Evolution was made up as a theory because the scientists had no explaination as to how everything came into existence, they just pulled it out of their ass. You seem to have a skewed idea of what a "theory" is. A theory is not shorthand for just any random idea. Evolution was not just "pulled out of scientist's asses." Evolution has a lot of data behind it. It comes in all forms and ranges from fossils to astrophysics to geology to microbiology. We can even look at agriculture to see a form of human-directed evolution of food crops and animal breeding. The government gives creedence to pedofiles. NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) has been given a charter by the government. Adults taking advantage of children in a sexual way is perversion. These children have rights, the right to not be molested by adults. Please post a copy of this alleged "government charter" for NAMBLA. At least post information on what governmental agency issued this charter. As for what this has to do with evolution vs. creation, I can't see. It seems to me just a typical "muddy the water" nonsense argument by someone who just doesn't have any facts on their side of the argument. file://-=- James_Thomas_Green(*); /delurk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Campaign 2000 - a Socialist candidate (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Socialist Party Why have a Socialist Party? The Democrats and most Republicans are Socialist if not Communist! ===Clearly Bill you don't know the meaning of the words socialism or communism. Why do right-wingers have so much difficulty with these terms??? Differently-abled. Dysfunctional comprehension. Creative definitions. Or, people believe whatever the hell they want to believe. It doesn't matter what the consensus definitions of 'socialism', 'capitalism', 'communism', 'democracy', 'republic', 'tyranny etc may be - some folks like to stick with their own personal definitions, rather like the Red Queen: "Words mean whatever *I* say they mean." Now, in some cases, certain words *must* have very specific definitions. When I use the term 'entertainment' in a technical discussion, I mean "whatever people do to organize and occupy their time when they're not doing anything useful." Most political/economic/religious/artistic/sports discussions are examples of entertainment, using that definition. But when people define socialism/communism as being ANY community/gov't intrusion in economic activity, they're just plain wrong. Bother. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gloves Off in the Garden State (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] Further ammo for my argument with my husband that we should get the hell out of New Jersey. Thanks. EVERYBODY should get the hell out of Joisy. I've argued for years that the U.S. should sell the place to Castro. My sister-in-law, a major corporate exec there, almost likes the idea. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990814a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No sacred Aztec calendars expired during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # : Many believe their faith kept them safe in storm. (DN) Karen Hind is not a believer in "luck." In fact, as she and her family literally held fast to the doors of the Salt Lake LDS Temple while Wednesday's tornado roared all around them, she thought to herself: We're at the best place in the whole valley to be right now. Well, Tahiti might be kinda nice too, maybe. http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,110003324,00.html : If your faith isn't strong enough in a storm, do one or more deities want you to die? Do natural disasters discriminate between non/believers? How?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Recycling the Eclipse. Now that the eclipse is over, Germans wonder what to do with the millions of protective glasses they wore to watch the event. http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21264.html : Did capitalists selling protective lenses mercilessly exploit the eclipse? # The World's Smallest Server. It's the size of a match-head and costs only 49 cents to build, but it may not be quite ready to handle an e-commerce site yet. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21265.html : How many Web servers would you like to have embedded in your skull? Why? # Recliner for Surfing, Sipping. A new La-Z-Boy has a modem so you can Web channel surf simultaneously, and a cooler to store your favorite beverage. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21260.html : Are you a Web potato yet? Will you be soon? Will the ETs harvest you soon? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Retreat to aid pastors in dealing with arson. INDIANAPOLIS - Pastors rebuilding from the ashes of arson fires will have a chance to receive advice and support at a national retreat. Burn, baby, burn: # Let husband lead, says Campus Crusade for Christ. "A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband." # Senators seek to ease restrictions on chapel use. Naval base commander restricts chapel use by civilians, Roman Catholics, others: http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,110003344,00.html : Have you burnt a church lately? Do your womenfolk submit to your menfolk? Should gov't-owned churches be open to everybody? Do you worship aliens?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The New Armageddon: http://www.msnbc.com/news/ARMAG_Front.asp # New plutonium trade raises alarm. (MSNBC) A new, potentially dangerous trade in plutonium between Europe and Japan that some experts condemn as a proliferation risk: http://www.msnbc.com/news/292687.asp # Cyberwar: the threat of chaos. (MSNBC) The Hollywood version of "cyberwar" involves mischievous kids and nukes. But real cyberwar will likely be more subtle, with terror its chief weapon. http://www.msnbc.com/news/295227.asp # 'Nuclear anarchy' only a theft away. (MSNBC) The fall of the USSR and geo- political shifts have sent nuclear, biological, chemical weapons materials and technology onto the world market. http://www.msnbc.com/news/295229.asp # Mass production, mass destruction. (NBC) The losing battle being fought to prevent the spread of nuclear, chemical, biological and ballistic missile technologies: http://www.msnbc.com/news/295230.asp # Bin Laden: the 'new model' terrorist. (NBC) The pursuit of Osama bin Laden, the alleged guerrilla leader whom many U.S. officials view as the shape of terrorists to come. http://www.msnbc.com/news/295108.asp : What's your favorite model of Armageddon? Will THE END come with a bang, a whimper, thud, screech, bzzzt, yodel? Do you eagerly await The End? What has your terrorist group learnt from bin Laden? Are you spreading NBC tech? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ TALMUD: A truth-based response to: "THE TALMUD: JUDAISM'S HOLIEST BOOK DOCUMENTED AND EXPOSED", also known as "TALMUD UNMASKED" - see http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/exp.html Examples of this document are available from the following racist and anti-Semitic Web sites: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm http://frontpage.inficad.com/~romanist/TalmudTruth.htm http://www.hoffmaddn-info.com/talmudtruth.html http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/talmud.html http://www3.stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html http://abbc.com/islam/english/toread/talmud2.htm http://www.thelordswork.com/Antichrist/TALMUD.htm : What's your favorite hate literature? Have you fabricated any documents lately? Do you enjoy spreading hate propaganda? Is the pay good? Do your controllers insist that you do it? Are they alien, human, robotic, demonic? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Posthumanism, Crop Circles, ETs, Paranormal: http://alien.com @ The Elkhorn Document:
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bruce Mcneely [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously, evolution cannot be proven, the Bible thumper theory cannot be proven ... why not teach both and let the student decide which one he/she believes, or is there a third theory on the origin of humans ... There is one small problem with this idea - the evidence. I say teach evolution and special creation in proportion to their respective supporting evidence. The time alloted for special creation should be about one nanosecond. Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational folk. Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/ creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof', and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies. The struggle isn't about proof, evidence, fairness - it's about power, nothing else. Cretinists are in a can't-win position, since their 'success' in controlling a region's school system will translate into the marginalization of graduates of those schools when they emerge into the real world of higher education and meaningful employment. Like Marxism, cretinism can't survive contact with reality-based systems, but thrives only in isolation, behind ideological walls. Yow. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990813a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No supercolliders were damaged during the production of this bulletin. LISTOWNER NOTE: Today is 13 August 1999. Reportedly, the Aztec calendar ends today - there's no tomorrow. Some construe this as a prediction of The End Of The World. Others say that the Aztecs plagiarizing the Mayan calendar were too lazy to write down the next cycle. Whatever. If this is The Last Day, I just want to say that it's been fun. Cya --Ric _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Are you a friggatriskaidekaphobe? (CNN) Margaret Downey wants you to limbo under a ladder, waltz with anyone costumed in a black-cat outfit and break as many mirrors as you can. And she says the more superstitious you are, the better - it is, after all, the last Friday the 13th of the millennium. "Friday the 13th is complete bunk, it's nonsense," said Downey, organizer of the Anti-Superstition Carnival in Philadelphia. Those attending will be poking fun at superstitions -- and having fun in the process. http://cnn.com/US/9908/12/Fridaythe13th.ap/index.html : What's your favorite superstition? Do you avoid gatherings of 13 aliens? Do you prefer your black cats curried, BBQ'd or southern-fried? To knock on wood, do you tap your own head? Do mirrors spontaneously break around you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Life on Earth traced earlier. (AP) - Scientists studying Australian rocks have found evidence that primitive forms of life existed 2.7 billion years ago - a billion years earlier than had been previously shown. The finding pinpoints signs of life to the Archean era, the period from the beginning of Earth to about 2.5 billion years ago. That's even older than Bob Dole. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560683347-b73 : Is this evidence real, or was it planted by deities/aliens/agents to trick humans to accept evolution? Where/when would you like life to have begun??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Don't mention the gnaw. (BBC) A man bitten on the calf by a mystery woman while dancing on a table at the Munich beer festival developed the flesh eating bug, necrotising fasciitis. Calf-biting is regularly practiced at the festival as is known by the German name of Wad'lbeisser. Love at 1st bite: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_418000/418803.stm # Laptops mit Lager - The Open Source Beer Hike. Geeks from around the world gather in Bavaria to hike the hills, sip the beer, and talk about Linux. Not necessarily in that order. Watch out for flesh-eating bacteria, calf- biting gals: http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21249.html Who's behind the plot to wipe out mankind, or at least the smartest program- ming geeks, by getting them beer-drunk and infecting them? Is this another fiendish plan from Bill Gates? Will he stop at NOTHING to stomp Linux? Eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China accuses Falun Gong leader. BEIJING (AP) China's state media boosted attacks on the founder of a banned meditation group, accusing him of plan- ning and directing a big protest outside the Chinese leadership's Beijing HQ. Hinting that the gov't may put other group leaders on trial, state-run TV also singled out several Falun Gong organizers for their involvement in the silent, daylong protest by more than 10,000 followers seeking legal recognition. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560682567-d7e : When will Communism fall to meditation? Can the Chinese gov't thwart the irresistible force of Falun Gong? How many folks will be executed, tortured? # The Net: Enemy of the State? You can't surf the Net in Tajikistan. A French media group declares that nation, and 19 others, to be enemies of the Internet. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/21240.html : When will authoritarianism fall to Internetting? Can dictatorships thwart the irresistible force of the Web? How many netizens will be persecuted?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Eichmann papers found in Germany. BERLIN (AP) - Adolf Eichmann's apparent first attempt at a prison memoir has been found in files brought to Germ- any decades ago after the Nazi war criminal's trial in Israel. A German Nazi hunter came across the 127 handwritten pages two days ago. The pages titled "My Memoirs" were located in prosecution files brought to Germany after the Holocaust mastermind's 1962 execution. He only followed orders: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560683321-cb1 http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/nat/memoir081299.htm : Does your belief system promote genocide? Do you compose excuses for your place in the system? Are you just a cog in the machine? Who do you grind?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Belgium McDonalds burnt to ground. ANTWERP, Belgium (AP) A McDonald's fast food
[CTRL] Fw: Kansas Science Standards Controversy
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Jim Giglio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Skeptix [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 1:00 PM Subject: Kansas Science Standards Controversy The Washington Post had an article Sunday about a proposal under consideration by the KS state board of education, which they adopted a day or so ago. The impression left by the article was that the creationists have gotten their ideology written into the science curriculum in that state. Similar views have been expressed on this list and SKEPTIC. Curious, I went to the board's web page: http://www.ksbe.state.ks.us/outcomes/science.html What's listed is a July 1999 draft, which I downloaded and skimmed. I simply couldn't find anything in it that indicates creationist influence on the content of teaching. Maybe the draft isn't what the board adopted; if so, can somebody locate the final document? I've appended chunks from the draft below; it appears to be a fairly standard and sensible approach to natural selection and evolution, incorporating a reasonable philosophy on dealing with possible student religious objections. === THESE EXCERPTS ARE ABOUT 1/10 OF THE TOTAL DRAFT: Kansas Science Education Standards Fifth Working Draft July, 1999 Teaching With Tolerance and Respect Science studies natural phenomena by formulating explanations that can be tested against the natural world. Some scientific concepts and theories (e.g. blood transfusion, human sexuality, nervous system role in consciousness, cosmological and biological evolution, etc.) may conflict with a student's religious or cultural beliefs. The goal is to enhance understanding, and a science teacher has a responsibility to enhance students' understanding of scientific concepts and theories. Compelling student belief is inconsistent with the goal of education. Nothing in science or in any other field of knowledge shall be taught dogmatically. A teacher is an important role model for demonstrating respect and civility, and teachers should not ridicule, belittle or embarrass a student for expressing an alternative view or belief. In doing this, teachers display and demand tolerance and respect for the diverse ideas, skills, and experiences of all students. If a student should raise a question in a natural science class that the teacher determines to be outside the domain of science, the teacher should treat the question with respect. The teacher should explain why the question is outside the domain of natural science and encourage the student to discuss the question further with his or her family and clergy. Neither the Kansas Constitution nor the United States Constitution require time to be given in the science curriculum to accommodate religious views of those who object to certain material or activities presented in science classes. Nothing in the Kansas Statutes Annotated or the Kansas State Board Regulations allows students (or their parents) to excuse class attendance based on disagreement with the curriculum, except as specified for 1) any activity which is contrary to the religious teachings of the child or for 2) human sexuality education. (See Kansas Statutes Annotated d and State Board Regulations 91-31-3:(g)(2).) Grades 5 - 8 Benchmark 5: The students will observe the diversity of living things and relate their adaptations to their survival or extinction. Millions of species of animals, plants and microorganisms are alive today. Animals and plants vary in body plans and internal structures. Biological evolution, gradual changes of characteristics of organisms over many generations, has brought variations in populations. Therefore, a structural characteristic or behavior that helps an organism survive in its environment is called an adaptation. When the environment changes and the adaptive characteristics are insufficient, the species becomes extinct. As students investigate different types of organisms, teachers guide them toward thinking about similarities and differences. Students can compare similarities between organisms in different parts of the world, such as tigers in Asia and mountain lions in North America. Instruction needs to be designed to uncover and prevent misconceptions about natural selection. Students tend to think of all individuals in a population responding to change quickly rather than over a long period of time. Using examples such as Darwin's finches or the peppered moths of Manchester helps develop understanding of natural selection over time. (Resource: The Beak of the Finch by Jonathon Weiner). Providing students with fossil evidence and allowing them time to construct their own explanations is important in developing middle level students' understanding of extinction as a natural process that has affected Earth's species over time. Indicators: The students will: 7-1. Conclude that millions of species of
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Jean Staffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that the Protocols were written by the Merovingian Bloodline. They consider themselves gods. And they are not original Jews at all, being Khazars who converted to Judiasm in 740 A.D. They are barbarians - ruthless, cunning and greedy. They meant exactly what they said in the Protocols and still do today. The Khazarian Jews are at the heart of the Illuminati. Ah, this is what the disinformation specialists of The Conspiracy WANT you to think. But the alleged Illuminati who run The Conspiracy are the very agents who've leaked the 'information' that fuels belief in the authenticity of the Protocols, and the supporting belief-system. It's obviously in their interest that you DO believe this, that you swallow it whole. Why? What do you gain by accepting this disinfo? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990813b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No frolicsome unicorns were harmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # *Tony Blair is an Alien!* - Their confidence broken, Serbs are looking increasingly to the paranormal for comfort. But what if they're right? http://www.motherjones.com/total_coverage/kosovo/paranormal.html # *The macabre symbolism of destruction.* - How building -- and bombing -- places of worship has become the language of war in the Balkans. http://www.motherjones.com/total_coverage/kosovo/kusovac.html # UN probes Balkan depleted uranium. (BBC) The United Nations is to investi- gate effects of the use against Serb forces of depleted uranium weapons. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_419000/419561.stm : Did NATO employ wizards/warlocks/witches to wage magickal war against the Serbs? Are religious sites strategic targets? When you lose a war, are your deities second-rate losers just like you? Is it all the Reptilioids' fault? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Huge Triangle UFOs Mark Busy Sightings Week. (MUFON) Numerous reports of Flying Triangles are becoming common place. This infers that either they belong to our government or possibly alien forces. The following Flying Triangle reports may help provide significant evidence in our search for answers. Or maybe not: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/flyers81199.htm : Have you seen any gigantic flying triangles lately? Have you consumed many chemicals lately? Have you ever lied, hallucinated, been abducted, sobbed?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Turtle confiscated from temple. HONG KONG (AP) - Authorities have freed an endangered sea turtle that drew thousands of worshippers to a temple on a fishing boat. Cops confiscated the green sea turtle from the temple of Tin Hau, where it was worshipped for its supposed magical protective powers. The reptile was later released into the sea. Worshippers of Tin Hau, or the Goddess of the Sea, accused the government of insensitivity. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560696635-18f : Is your gov't insensitive? Do they take your sacred icons, even the living endangered ones? Do your sacred icons have more magical protective powers than the gov't? If the gov't is stronger, shouldn't you worship it instead? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Fusion fuels dreams of space travel. (MSNBC) Terry Kammash, an astrophys- icist and engineer at the University of Michigan, is developing a design for a gas-dynamic mirror fusion propulsion engine. Concepts could yield new propulsion techniques in a few years: http://msnbc.com/news/299611.asp : What's your favorite spacecraft propulsion technology? Would you rather pump mass/energy, warp space, travel thru wormholes, teleport, stay home?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Divining Rod Led Searcher To Dead Girl. VANCOUVER (CP) -- With his trusty divining rod and a strand of hair from a murdered girl, Rex Fitz-Gerald was able to solve a mystery that had confounded more than 400 searchers. Or maybe his nose worked: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/rod.htm ? : Have you found anything lately? Did you divine it? Did it fall into your pocket accidentally? Did you hide it, then wave a stick over it 'find' it? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Decoding the Dead Sea Scrolls - Scientists use digital methods to rediscover missing text. (MSNBC) Using a process that subtracts colors to heighten contrast reveals a hidden line of writing in what appears to be a blank space on the Temple Scroll, one of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The find eventually yielded what is being called a harvest hymn, a never- before-seen Jewish psalm. http://www.msnbc.com/news/299206.asp : What's your favorite unknown hymn? Have you written any hymns? Are they any good? Did they have any effect? Did your deities reward you? Why not?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Dalai Lama gives lecture at theater. NEW YORK (AP) - Live, from the Beacon Theater, it's...the Dalai Lama? At a theater better known for rock'n'roll and beer, the exiled leader of Tibetan Buddhists gave a four-hour lecture titled "Training the Mind/Opening the Heart." He started with traditional Tibetan chants and a humble assessment of his own role in the world. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560691639-23e : Do you prefer Tibetan chants, death-metal, glam rock, techno-industrial, or silence? Is 'spiritual' music effective as propaganda? If you open your heart will the blood get your computer all sticky? Is your mind trainable? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Russian Queens To Battle U.S. Bee Mites. (Reuters) Swarms of hardy Russian queen bees will be used in a desperate battle to defeat tiny blood-sucking mites which are devastating North America's honey bee
