[CTRL] Anarchist attack fears turn City into no-go area

1999-12-27 Thread Dave

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"The City of London" is a unique private corporation holding political
dominion over the "square mile" that comprises the financial district of
greater London. A private city-within-a-city, with it's own government that
is also quite unique in terms of its corporate sovereignty.
It is probably the only place on the planet where the gummint claims Irish
AND Islamic terrorist fears.

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


December 26 1999BRITAIN

Anarchist attack fears turn City into no-go area
  Nick Fielding and James Clar
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/1999/12/26/stinwenws01007.html?
999

Anarchist attack fears turn City into no-go area
  Nick Fielding and James Clark

 THE City of London is bracing itself for violent attacks over
 the millennium holiday after threats by anarchists to start a
 new Great Fire of London.

 Police are to isolate the City after receiving a warning of the
 plan, as well as intelligence about Islamic fundamentalists and
 Irish republican splinter groups. Access will be possible only
 through seven tightly controlled entrances and exits. "It will
 effectively be a no-go area," said a Corporation of London
 spokesman.

 Armed troops will also be on stand-by at three bases around
 the capital in case of public disorder if the millennium bug
 causes chaos. The government's emergency planning
 committee, chaired by Jack Straw, the home secretary, will
 sit for 24 hours over millennium night and New Year's Day
 to monitor essential services and public safety. One barracks
 will be used as a helicopter port. A military communications
 network, including police and key Whitehall departments,
 will also stand ready.

 Security at the Millennium Dome in Greenwich, which will be
 attended by the Queen, the prime minister and other
 dignitaries, will be unprecedented. Bridges across the
 Thames will be closed, tunnels emptied and aircraft
 forbidden to fly over the site. Up to 32 police vessels will
 patrol the Thames, including two fire tenders. Members of
 the navy's elite Special Boat Squadron will be on duty.

 Scotland Yard's response is being co-ordinated by a
 millennium unit involving the anti- terrorist squad, special branch
and liaison between MI5 and  MI6, the Home Office
and other government departments.

 The unit's concerns include Islamic terror groups based in
 Europe and linked to Osama Bin Laden, the terrorist
 described by the CIA as the world's most wanted man.

 The FBI said this week that one such group, based in
 Frankfurt, Germany, was planning to send a string of parcel
 bombs to British and American targets over the holiday
 period. The warning came as anti-terrorist police in Britain
 arrested an Algerian asylum-seeker linked to an Islamic
 terror group. Ramdane Zouabri, 26, has been charged with
 threatening to kill an Algerian community leader after he was
 allegedly filmed making calls from a north London telephone
 box. Zouabri's brother is leader of the Algerian Groupe
 Islamique Armé (GIA), which killed 30 people on Christmas
 Eve at a roadblock near Khemis Miliana, west of the
 Algerian capital, Algiers.

 Deputy assistant commissioner Alan Fry, head of Scotland
 Yard's anti-terrorist branch, has asked members of the
 public to be on their guard and to contact police if they
 notice anything suspicious.

 Additional reporting: Adam Nathan; Matthew Campbell,
 Washington, and Uzi Mahnaimi, Jerusalem


From: Mark Pitt
There seems to be a lot of stuff relating to Islamic persons being of the
terrorist type in the news of late.. Most of Iran, Irag, Syria and other
middle eastern countries fall into the Islamic category.. I would presume
most to be a set up due to the mineral etc etc the western world has
been trying to grab and control for years..
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[CTRL] rBGH HungerStrike UPDATE: There MUST be a law!

1999-12-27 Thread Dave

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Monsanto's crimes in obtaining approval and marketing rBGH continue today.
Other recent developments have shown that rBGH was known to survive intact
in milk for sale on supermarket dairy sections after pasteurization, AND
that a hormone that is ACTIVE in HUMANS has thus been inflicted unknowing on
millions of milk-drinkers.
Perhaps this explains recent survey results indicating inexplicable early
puberty in girls as young as 7 - 10 yrs...  DOSED with hormones that are
active in humans. Thanks to the conspiratorial relationship between MonSatan
and the Fraud and Druggsters Association (FDA).
read on...

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


-Original Message-
Forwarded by Betty Martini to the Mission Possible mail list; in short,
the announced merger of Pharmacia-Upjohn and Monsanto may involve an
end-run plan around concerns over Monsanto's rBGH, which Robert Cohen is
protesting by a hunger strike now in its 50th day.  See:

 http://www.hungerstrike.com

SUBSTANTIAL DIVERGENCE

On this 50th day of my hunger strike, I have learned a new secret, and I
am very greatly concerned.

While anti-biotech protestors were rioting in the streets of Seattle, a
new episode in the continuing saga of Monsanto's revolving door tactics
quietly developed beyond FDA's "palace" doors.

Somebody may be breaking the law, participating in unethical activity at
the least, insider trading and influence, betrayal of our health
interests, and the time has come for us to ask: "What's up?"

The same grandiloquent question that Bugs Bunny asks Elmer Fudd can
fittingly be asked of our scientists and government regulators:  "What's
up, Doc?"

Appropriately, that question should also be directed to the president of
Monsanto, Robert Shapiro.  "What's up, Bob?"

Actually, as we get closer to asking this very same question to the
guiltiest of conspirators, we have discovered a source of future ills in
the nick of time.  Knowing the proper question to ask might very well nip
the problem deep within the pollen of its genetically engineered bud.

THE REAL ENEMY

Today, on this first day after Christmas, let us ask together, "What's up,
John."  You might be wondering just who this John fellow is. Actually,
it's UPJOHN.  You might ask, "What's up, John?"  Well, I'm gonna tell you.
Activists of the world, unite.  We have met the enemy. (UPJOHN is not
where I want you to stick your proverbial placards and banners of protest.
Not yet, anyway.)

When Monsanto first presented their research to the FDA for approval of
the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rbGH), there were also
three other pharmaceutical companies with their own different versions of
the genetically modified organism.

Monsanto's protein formula was different than the naturally occurring
bovine growth hormone.   Monsanto's hormone was not an exact version of
the natural pituitary extract from a cow.  The end amino acid (amino acids
are the building blocks of proteins) was just a little bit different than
what naturally occurs in nature.  Actually, it was VERY different, but
Monsanto neglected to reveal all of their secrets until after their drug
received official FDA approval.

THE MAGICIANS PERFORMED THEIR SLEIGHT-OF-HAND TRICK

Monsanto received approval for rbGH on Friday, February 4, 1994.  There
must have been quite a celebration in their St. Louis corporate
headquarters on that day.  Perhaps the celebration continued through the
weekend.  What happened the following Monday provides the "smoking gun"
evidence to Monsanto's crime.  On Monday, a group of Monsanto scientists
photocopied, collated and stapled together the most incriminating
scientific document in history and sent it to a peer-review journal for
publication.  On Thursday of that week, the journal "PROTEIN SCIENCE"
officially received Monsanto's study.

In that paper, Monsanto admitted that they made significant errors in
their formula.  WHAT'S UP, JOHN?
What's up, doc?  Monsanto waited until after approval, just in case, to
admit their errors.  After approval, Monsanto admitted that the errors
were fixed.  However, in making this no-win admission, Monsanto also
revealed that all of the research submitted to FDA from 1985 until 1993
was performed with a different hormone than the one that is currently on
the market.

Funny creatures, these scientists.  Most of the authors of the study
worked for Monsanto.  Most, but not all.

A few researchers were with other firms.  One researcher, located after
three phone calls told me that he worked for Monsanto nearly two years
before the hormone was approved.  Then he made a number of career moves,
but still received credit for his work in co-authorship.  What does this
prove?  Simply, that Monsanto knew the errors were made, but held off
until after approval.  By leaving the firm, the co-author placed a time
stamp upon when the "crime" was actually known, and when it was committed.

Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine 

Re: [CTRL] Homeopaths vs quackbusters, stage magicians, and fools ...

1999-12-27 Thread Tenorlove

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Re: [CTRL] Homeopaths vs quackbusters, stage magicians, and fools ...

1999-12-27 Thread TenebrousT

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Gaeton Fonzi

1999-12-27 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Daniel Hopsicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One of the biggest puzzlements I've encountered this past
year was the response from the so-called experts in
the JFK assassination researcher community when I
published a picture--the only known picture--of the
CIA assassination squad, Operation 40, on my website,
and then solicited their help in ID'ing the people there.

The two "experts" on the exile Cuban community,
solicited for help in making identifications of Cubans
pictured in a Mexico City nite club with Barry Seal
in January of 1963,Gaeton Fonzi and Gordon Winslow,
were both curiously unhelpful, even suggesting that the
evidence of my own eyes was in error, that
that "white was black," in denying that Feliz Rodriguez
is seated beside Seal.

"More will be revealed" is one of the promises of life.
And now I have my answer, depressing as it may be...

In an interview with retired NYPD detective Jimmy Rothstein--
with whom I was put in touch by CIA-Drugs Moderator Emeritus
Mike Ruppert--I learned that Frank Sturgis, after being busted
by Rothstein for the attempted murder of Marita Lorenz,
made his one phone call from police lockup to...(drumroll pls.)
Gaeton Fonzi!

Not only that, but Sturgis stated that Felix Rodriguez--George Bush's
personal wetboy--was with him in a car that drove from Miami to
Dallas the day before the assassination.

Your witness, Quig.

--
Daniel Hopsicker
The Drug Money Times
http://www.MadCowProd.com
"All the news that's ripped from print!"

Scandal in contemporary U.S. life is an institutionalized sociological
phenomenon.
It is not due primarily to psychopathological variables,  but is due to
the institutionalization of elite wrongdoing which has occcurred since
1963."

"Many of the scandals that have occurred in the U.S. since 1963 are
fundamentally interrelated: that is, the same people and institutions
have been involved."
 --Prof.David Simon, "Elite Deviance 6th edition

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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] MORE--ON HELEN THOMAS' UPI END OF CLINTON STORY

1999-12-27 Thread William Shannon





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MORE--ON HELEN THOMAS' UPI "END OF CLINTON STORY"

FROM RUMOR MILL NEWS
http://rumormillnews.com

December 26, 1999

On Christmas Day Rumor Mill News sent out an article by UPI White House
correspondent Helen Thomas. The article was titled, "Beginning of The End for
Clinton"

A mistake had been made in the date, and it appeared as if Ms Thomas was
predicting that President Clinton would step down as President on January 20,
2000.

Rumor Mill News asked the question, "Does Helen Thomas know something she is
not saying?"

Rumor Mill also pointed out that Lou Dobbs, formerly with CNN is now the
owner or about to be the owner of UPI. Mr.  Dobbs left CNN in an acrimonious
split. Since it is obvious that CNN is the loudspeaker for the New World
Order, could UPI be made over and become the mouth piece for the opposition
to the New World Order? This is only a guess, I have no proof

Today, Rumor Mill received an email from one of our sources. The entire email
is pasted in below:

"Take a look at the end of paragraph 3. .."miles to go..."
This phrase was used in the 80's [Cold War thriller] movie "Telefon" with
Charles Bronson. The poem was used to awaken Soviet "sleeper" assassins that
had been planted throughout America. Interesting
Excellent movie by the way."

(Read Operation Open Eyes on the Latest Rumor page... In it you will read a
part which talks about programmed sleeper assassins, through out America,
sitting in front of televisions, just waiting for the trigger word to "wake"
them up so they can carry out their programmed mission.)

``promises to keep and miles to go before he sleeps.''  Notice the word
"sleep", as in "sleeper" assassins.

Paragraph 3
In a recent interview with CNN's Larry King, Clinton said that he wanted to
``work'' and to do the things that were still possible in his final year in
office. He feels he still has, in the words of Robert Frost, ``promises to
keep and miles to go before he sleeps.''

The coincidence of two "interesting dates and phrases" occuring in one
article is suspicious. First, a red flag is waved with an erroneous date. Was
this done to catch the "sleepers" attention? Then a known "trigger" phrase is
put into the article. Both the wrong date and the trigger phrase are in the
first four paragraphs. The date comes first and the "trigger" phrase comes
second. Just as it would, if the "sleeper assassin" is being sent both the
activation order and the date on which he is to carry out his programming.

Of course this COULD just be an editing problem. But I doubt if the Secret
Service sees it this way.

If Rumor Mill were analyzing this for them, we would say that someone is
sending the President a message. It appears as if someone is giving him a due
date. In other words, "Go Quietly... Or Else".

"Go Quietly, Or Else"  was the title of the book written by former Vice
President, Spiro Agnew. In private conversations with friends Agnew told them
that he was given the choice of resigning as Vice President or being
killed he chose to "go quietly."

Rumor Mill News can't help but wonder if the same message has been delivered
to President Clinton.

In previous Rumor Mill articles, our sources predicted that President Clinton
is going to resign. If he does, he will be allowed to save face and "resign
for the good of his country and party." Hillary will even be put on the
presidential ticket as the Vice President.

When Al Gore gets impeached for either pardoning Bill or accepting Chinese
money, Hillary, who appears to have withstood Ken Starr better than anyone,
will be the first woman President.

The same source who provided this information also said that at this time
there are 17 different agendas all vying for power.

What are your thoughts on this?

A
HREF="http://headlines.about.com/news/1999/12/25/up/-0051-us-clinton.html"
Top News from About.com NewsCenter/A

Beginning of The End for Clinton

HELEN THOMAS


United Press International - December 25, 1999


UPI White House Reporter

  WASHINGTON, Dec. 24 (UPI) It's the beginning of the end for President
Clinton, who sees his presidency slipping away.

  Clinton has always said, ``even the bad days are good,'' which
indicates his love for his work as the President of the United States, and he
clearly rages against the dying light.

  He has one more Christmas to celebrate in the White House before he
begins packing for a Jan. 20, 2000 departure for private life a life he knows
will never be as fulfilling as when he was the nation's chief executive.

  In a recent interview with CNN's Larry King, Clinton said that he
wanted to ``work'' and to do the things that were still possible in his final
year in office. He feels he still has, in the words of Robert Frost,
``promises to keep and miles to go before he sleeps.''

  He wants to savor every moment and to take every advantage offered in a
post that has demanded everything, and given him great rewards and 

[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] CSIS REPORT LINKS THREE CULTS IDENTIFIED BY RMNEWS AS CHEM ...

1999-12-27 Thread William Shannon





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

=
RUMOR  MILL  NEWS AGENCY==
=
 CSIS REPORT  LINKS THREE CULTS
IDENTIFIED BY RMNEWS AS CHEMICAL   BIOLOGICAL TERRORISTS

Dateline: December 26, 1999

From  The Rumor Mill News Agency
http://www.rumormillnews.com

CANADIAN INTELLIGENCE SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE REPORT
LINKS THREE CULTS IDENTIFIED BY RUMOR MILL NEWS SOURCES
AS BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL "SLEEPER TERRORISTS"

 A HREF="http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/eng/miscdocs/23e.html"Perspectives
- Doomsday Religious Movements/A

This is a link to an article from a CANADIAN SECURITY
INTELLIGENCE SERVICE report.

Report # 2000/03
DOOMSDAY RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS
December 18, 1999

Here is an interesting excerpt:

"...the threat they represent is evinced by recent events involving groups
such as the American Branch Davidians, as well as Canada's Order of the
Solar Temple. Japan's infamous Aum Shinrykio is a textbook example,
where the coupling of apocalyptic beliefs and a charismatic leader fixated
on enemies culminated in a nerve-gas attack intended to cause mass
casualties in the hope of precipitating a world war and completing its
apocalyptic prophecy."

The Rumor Mill finds it interesting that the Canadian Intelligence Report
lists the three "religious cults" that Rumor Mill News sources have
consistantly stated were programmed government "sleeper terrorists".

RMNews Sources have stated that all three of these cults dealt in either
biological or chemical terrorism. RMNews Sources further stated that all
three cults were created by branches of governments.

In "The Wilcher Report", it was stated that Waco was a goverment mind
control project gone awry. Paul Wilcher, the author of the report was
found dead of suspicious causes less than one month after he delivered his
report to Attorney General Janet Reno. It was further stated by Wilcher's
number one source, Gunther Russbacher that the seven "sleepers" inside
the Davidian church were working on a chemical device that had the
potential of killing hundreds of thousands of people.
(The Wilcher Report is available from The Human Right Commission
http://www.conghansen.com/halord.htm)

The Order of the Solar Temple was started in Canada by a homeopathic
physician named Luc Jouret. Dr. Jouret received his funding from Ontario
Hydro, a company controlled by Maurice Strong. Mr. Strong is the "power
behind the throne" in the United Nations.

(Rumor has it that Maurice Strong  is scheduled for "retirement" by his
NWO "handlers". They wish to replace him with Hillary. This is where
she will go if she loses the Senate election and does not get put on the VP
ticket.)

Luc Jouret has written on mind control and biological and chemical
experiments carried out by governments. His work is quoted in "Diana,
Queen of Heaven" by Rayelan Allan.  Diana Queen Of Heaven

RMNews sources stated that Europol  eliminated the "sleeper terrorists"
from the Order of the Solar Temple in the same way that the United States
government eliminated the Branch Davidians. They were killed by fire.

Rumor Mill News has consistantly stated that these three cults contained
programmed "sleeper terrorists" that could wreak havoc with biological or
chemical terrorism.

The Aum Shinrykyo cult in Japan is the only cult that overtly showed any
sign of terrorism,  and yet the Canadian Intelligence Service linked all
three cults and implied that all three might be planning an "attack
intended to cause mass casualties in the hope of precipitating a world war
and completing its apocalyptic prophecy." What do they know that they
aren't saying?

Rumor Mill News finds this extremely interesting... it almost seems as if
the Intelligence Services KNOW that the information put out in the
Rumor Mill is as close to the truth as you can get! After all our
information comes from "government intelligence 'rumor mills'" world
wide!


Intersting quotes from the following article:

"Also, the position a member occupies in an established enterprise can
augment the potential threat; several Solar Temple members were senior
employees of a public utility, whose access to sensitive systems could
have crippled the provision of a much-needed service."

RMNews: It appears as if the Canadian government is telling people that
"cultist" will be the ones responsible for the power grids going down.

"The Solar Temple purportedly laundered money and trafficked in arms
and illegal drugs, while Aum Shinrykio allegedly supplied illegal drugs to
transnational organized crime syndicates. If these reports are correct, any
possible threats to public safety are magnified."

RMNews: Canadian newspapers have connected Maurice Strong to this
cult. Why haven't any United States newsmedia made the connection?

PERSPECTIVES
a CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE publication

[CTRL] KAL Crash- What Aren't We Being Told?

1999-12-27 Thread William Shannon

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 Jumbo jet blown out of sky?
Details of crash in England
kept secret from public




By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

A 747 cargo jet was blown from the sky by an apparent terrorist bomb,
but details of the crash have been largely kept secret from the public,
according to intelligence and military sources.
A Korean Air 747 cargo plane crashed into a field Dec. 22 just after
takeoff from Stansted Airport in Essex, killing a crew of four.
Witnesses reported that it exploded violently in mid-air only minutes
after rising into the air.

Intelligence sources confirmed to WorldNetDaily that a terrorist bomb is
the most likely cause of the crash, and Osama bin Laden's forces are the
key suspects.

"There was a large flash followed by a large bang," eyewitness Neil
Foster told the BBC.

"There was a big explosion and huge flames in the sky," Annette Brooke-
Taylor described. "It was a sort of mushroom shape. An incredible sight.
It lit up the sky. There was a tremendous noise. There were lots of
flaming particles in the sky and then it went very quiet and then we
realized something terrible had happened."

The crash took place only hours after the 11th anniversary of the
downing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, with the loss of
270 people. Using the Jewish calendar, the dates of the two crashes were
exactly 11 years apart -- 13 Tevet.

"Dates are very important to these people. You have to believe there is
a message here," said the intelligence source.

The cargo plane is said to have contained NATO military equipment headed
for Italy, but official sources have not confirmed what freight was
contained on the plane.

Military and intelligence officials say the attack may be an indication
bin Laden is making good on his pledge to mount "pitiless and violent"
attacks against U.S. and other targets worldwide.

The hijacking of India Air flight 814 with 160 passengers on board was
cited as "just the beginning of bin Laden's plans," according to several
foreign papers attributing a U.S. intelligence source. The reports have
not linked the two events, but there appears to be evidence which ties
the two events to bin Laden.

Media around the world have given significant attention to the hijacking
of India Air flight 814, but virtually no coverage has been given to the
crash of the Korean cargo plane.

Hijackers said to be tied to bin Laden took control of the India Air
passenger plane and demanded the release from prison in India of Malauna
Masood Azghar, the leader of a Kashmiri militant group, Harkat al
Mujahideen. He was convicted for the kidnap and murder of five western
tourists in 1995.

Azghar has camps in eastern Afghanistan near bin Laden's base of
operations. He receives training and funding from bin Laden, just as
many similar groups receive assistance from him.

The hijacked jet arrived first in the southern Afghan City of Kandahar.
It sat on the runway for many hours, just a short distance from one of
bin Laden's hideouts, according to the intelligence source.

The terrorists appealed for asylum, but Afghanistan declined. They were
provided with food and fuel but still refused to leave for many hours
while still negotiating to stay in Afghanistan. They threatened to crash
the plane if a safe landing was not permitted elsewhere.

If the ties to bin Laden are true, the terrorists may have expected
those ties to help them with their agenda to free Azghar. They did not
succeed.

The downing of the Korean Air cargo flight and the hijacking of Indian
Air flight 814 are seen by some U.S. intelligence and FBI sources as
possible first strikes in a long-expected assault as part of bin Laden's
declared jihad (holy war) against the U.S., Israel, and India.

The FBI has ordered a security crackdown at all international air and
seaports. FBI spokesmen have confirmed to the media that they are
concerned a hostile group may try to bomb U.S. power plants, including
nuclear plants.

Police in New York City have been reported checking the extensive sewer
system below Times Square where a major New Years Eve celebration will
take place.

The FBI recently issued a warning to Americans to be cautious of
packages mailed from Frankfurt, Germany.

Ahmed Ressam, a suspected terrorist trained by bin Laden, was captured
driving a car loaded with explosives into Washington state.

The State Department has issued warnings to Americans that it is
dangerous to attend large events during the holiday period. It also
evacuated over 800 U.S. diplomats from foreign assignments as a
precaution. Very tight security and a red alert have been placed in
effect at all U.S. embassies around the world.

Another suspected terrorist, Lucia Garofalo, was stopped at the Vermont
border. The FBI claims she has ties to Algerian Islamic groups supported
by bin Laden. Her car did not contain explosives, but it did test
positive for 

Re: [CTRL] Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship

1999-12-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

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And the Mexican War was equally a manufactured war, created with the sole
objective of opening the way for U.S. annexation of a significant portion of
Mexican territory.

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 Under the slogan "Remember the Maine", Americans went to war with Spain,
 wresting from that nation ownership of what is now much of the American
 southwest.


 "Ownership of what is now much of the American southwest" was actually
 wrested from a different nation, Mexico, in a war with equally bogus
 beginnings, over half a century earlier.

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[CTRL] Tyrone Powers

1999-12-27 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave



Excerpt of recent Tyrone Power's interview with Tony Brown. Tyrone's website
is www.bropowers.com. If Texaco is underwriting Tony Brown doing interviews
like this it is a good take on what court orders can do that are useful:


***Transcription of program begins here.

From Tony Brown’s Journal, aired mid-December, 1999 on PBS, Channel 2,
Miami

(INTRODUCTION INTO PROGRAM) TONY BROWN: Almost one-third of Americans plan
to stock up on food and water for Y2K problems.  While 66% of Americans
expect only minor problems, they’re playing it safe also.  Lower income
blacks are way behind whites and Asians in computer ownership and access to
the internet.  But all blacks are way ahead, by about a 2-to-1 ratio, in
stocking up food and water for potential problems from the Y2K computer
glitch.  My take on this is that because blacks have endured centuries of
deprivation and marginal survival, they believe a technical and economic
crisis can happen in the U.S. on a mass level.  This is not a giant leap in
reality testing.  More privileged groups may find more comfort in denial
because the prospect of going without electricity, food, water, and heat, is
a distinct possibility, something that happens to people in Asia and Africa.

In addition to generations of social conditioning, and, for a few year’s
now, militarized local SWAT teams and military maneuvers to combat terrorism
in urban areas, has been unnerving to more than a few blacks and Hispanics.

But Y2K is more tangible than the belief  that the CIA controlled drug
distribution in South Central LA and other intercity areas.  Rumors of white
supremacists exploiting a Y2K crisis are so widespread that the mostly white
Michigan Militia Corps Wolverine has offered to work with the FBI to police
groups that are plotting to start a racial bloodbath during a Y2K crisis and
rioting.  That is bad enough.  But add to that, the possibility that your
own government is plotting against you during Y2 chaos, just because you’re
black.

A former Special Agent for the FBI says that certain agencies of America’s
intelligence community have a special Y2K plan in store for blacks called
“Mad Max”.

I am Tony Brown.  In a moment, race and Y2K.

ANNOUNCER: Tony Brown’s Journal is underwritten by Texaco.  We are proud to
support the intellectual, spiritual, and cultural energy of the
African-American community.  Texaco-- A world of energy.

TONY BROWN: My guest is Dr. Tyrone Powers, the author of “Eyes To My Soul:
The Rise Or Decline Of A Black FBI Agent.”

He is a former Special Agent for the FBI and he is currently the director of
the Institute on Criminal Justice, Law Enforcement, and Legal Services
Studies at Ann Arondale (spelling?) Community College in Maryland.

Welcome, sir.

SPECIAL AGENT TYRONE POWERS: Good to be here.

BROWN: You are a Ph.D. doctor.  What is your field of specialty?

POWERS: Criminal justice issues, justice issues, and sociology.

BROWN: Now you were a Special Agent for the FBI for nine years?

POWERS: Nine, almost 10 years – 9 years and 9 months.

B: And what is your other experience in law enforcement?

P: I spent 3-1/2 years as a Maryland State Trooper.

B: And did you do that before you were with the FBI?

P: Yes, yes.

B: Why did you leave the FBI?

P: Well, at the time, there were a number of reasons.  I had some sickness
in my family, I wanted to get back home to spend time with my mother, my
brother had died a violent death, and I had had been speaking out on some of
the things about what was going on in the FBI and had a raid occur on my
mother’s house by some of my colleagues at the time and so she had suffered
a third stroke and so there were reasons such as that.  00  Then, I came
home and completed my education and went into the education field.

B: Now, you are . . . I discovered this from your web site . . . and I made
contact with you.  This is the first day I had met you.  I made contact with
you to interview you on my radio program in New York, and you were gracious
enough to accept it, and people were, of course, very stimulated by what you
say.  And I would like today to, of course, have you go over the same
information.

Now, you allege, and I must use the language “allege”. . . you allege that
you were told by, what do you call this source”  -- an impeccable source? .
. .

P: Yes, sir, a reliable source . . .

B: A reliable source . . .

P. In a position to know . . . .

B: In a position to know

P. Yes, sir.

B: Now, I will not go into who this person is, because it is really none of
my business . . .

P. Right.

B: But, this person, in a position to know, told you what?

P. That the intelligence agencies . . . and let me say this . . . let me
preface it with this . . . it is really not a surprise to me because I
worked intelligence issues during the time I was with the FBI, domestic,
international terrorism, and things of this sort, but he told me that the

Re: [CTRL] Bug at hotmail

1999-12-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Hotmail has been buggy since its creation (1996?). It's notorious for
crashing. All of the Web-based e-mail services have problems, but Hotmail's
historically been about the worst, perhaps because they've been around
longer and have more experience at screwing up. And I can't say that Hotmail
has improved noticeably since Microsquish took them over.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nicky Molloy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, December 25, 1999 6:17 PM
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 Subject:  [CTRL] Bug at hotmail

  -Caveat Lector-

 Hi all,

 Apparently Hotmail has a bug they are working on, according to them. Has
 Microsoft been got at I wonder? I will try to find out if that error
 message
 is a bug which disables sites.

 Nicky

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Re: [CTRL] Question on the origin of AIDS

1999-12-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

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More likely that someone *ate* a monkey which was carrying the Green Monkey
Virus. Apparently the local equivalent of McDonald's in the Congo and Angola
bush country is to shoot and stew a monkey... Yummy!

 -Original Message-
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 My hubby's pet theory is that AIDS came about because some guy had sex
 with a monkey. Is there any evidence that this could be the case?

 Tenorlove
 ducking cyber-tomatoes
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 Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [CTRL] Homeopaths vs quackbusters, stage magicians, and fools ...

1999-12-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

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That's no science *that you will recognize.* Homeopathy has a 200-year
history of rigorous research and development. And from your tone, it's not
the supporters of homeopathy who are fighting a losing battle, clutching at
straws. *You* may feel comfortable with putting systemic poisons into your
body; I am not.
 -Original Message-
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 fools...

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  If one can stick to arguing the science, or lack thereof, 

 The problem here is that there IS no science to support the claims of
 homeopathy...NONE...the supporters of this fraud are fighting a losing
 battle
 and they know it...their desperation is clear,there merely clutching at
 straws.
 Bill.



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Re: [CTRL] Question on the origin of AIDS

1999-12-27 Thread Gavin Phillips

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Sounds like a lot of monkey business to me! Gavin.


In a message dated 12/27/99 11:43:33 AM Central Standard Time,
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 More likely that someone *ate* a monkey which was carrying the Green Monkey
 Virus. Apparently the local equivalent of McDonald's in the Congo and Angola
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  My hubby's pet theory is that AIDS came about because some guy had sex
  with a monkey. Is there any evidence that this could be the case?
 
  Tenorlove
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  Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 

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[CTRL] [1] What a Long Strange Trip It's Been

1999-12-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
What a Long Strange Trip It's Been
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More later.
Om
k
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What A Long Strange Trip It's Been
©1999 RA Kris Millegan

" . . . these same secret societies are behind it all," my father said. Now,
Dad had never spoken much about his work.

You see, my Daddy was a — spy.

He entered into the "intel" world in the late thirties, later, he was OSS and
G-2. During the early fifties he was the CIA's Branch Chief, Head of East
Asia Intelligence Analyst Office. I spoke Dutch and Malay before English,
whilst my family accompanied my "businessman" father to Indonesia in the
early 1950s. That my father had worked for the government was no secret, but
it just wasn't everyday conversation.

So one day, when my dad sat me down, I had very little to relate to when he
very soberly and in rapid succession told me, "the Vietnam War is about
drugs" and "these secret societies are behind it."

He then really laid one on me.

"Communism is all a sham, these same secret societies are behind it all."

"Hunh???"

I really couldn't relate. The only "secret society" I knew of was the Mafia
and my teachers had been stuffing me under desks because the "commies" were
going to bomb us. And since it was the sixties—and I was a teenager with my
hair growing longer—I just tossed it off as my dad's way of having an
anti-drug chat and went on with life.

Many years later I finally had some understanding of what my dad was talking
about and—boy—do I wish I had asked some questions.

Like, was he was talking about The Order of Skull and Bones?


* * *


Skull and Bones—the pirates flag, a poison warning—an icon of death—an
interesting symbol for what some say is merely a Yale 'frat' club. Just some
college kids and their bizarre hazing humor—having fun.

For almost 170 years that grimacing visage and code of  "strict secrecy" has
fostered many questions.

What is Skull and Bones?

The Order of Skull and Bones is the oldest of several senior secret societies
that are unique to Yale University. The "Order" was founded in 1832 by
William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft. Many historians claim the group
appeared as a direct result of the de-secretizing of America's oldest
Greek-letter college secret society, Phi Beta Kappa.

Phi Beta Kappa had been "founded with impressive ritual and high solemnity"
on Thursday, Dec 5, 1776, at William and Mary College, in Williamsburg,
Virginia. A few years later in April of 1780, at Goshen, Connecticut, four
students were "initiated into Phi Beta Kappa." Later on November 13, the
official foundation meeting was held at Yale.  "Three weeks and a day later"
the chapter at William and Mary came to "an end" due to the threat of a
British invasion during the War of Independence. Thus making the group at
Yale the oldest existent chapter.

 New England was going through a transformation from the strict puritanical
Calvinist outlooks toward a more secular, scientific worldview. The
revolutionary fervor and factionalization of the War of Independence had been
sandwiched between a series of religious revivals that swept through the
countryside like wildfires. During the first years of our Republic there was
a big Illuminati conspiracy scare and a generation later an anti-Masonic
hysteria that developed into a political force. The first national party
convention—by any party, in the US—was held by the Anti-Mason party, in 1832.

Many people, including, John Quincy Adams, who was elected to Congress on an
Anti-Mason/Whig ticket, were publicly campaigning against the secrecy of Phi
Beta Kappa.

Phi Beta Kappa dropped its secret society aspect in 1832 and became an "open
honorary organization," and  "[in] protest, apparently, William H. Russell,
valedictorian of 1833, got Alphonso Taft and thirteen other members of '33 to
form what is now perhaps the most famous secret society in the United States."

From the very beginning Skull and Bones encountered resentment from fellow
students. The faculty sent warning letters to the parents of early initiates.
Even amid this cotroversy the chapter persisted and flourished, and by 1884
two other senior secret societies at Yale had been formed: Scroll and Key,
and Wolf's Head. Also, Phi Beta Kappa had been revived after disappearing in
1871.

One old Yale tradition is "that 'Bones’ is a branch of a university corps of
Germany, in which country, General Russell spent some time before
graduation."  During an infamous break-in by the "Order of File and Claw", on
September 29, 1876 into the "Tomb"—the windowless "Bones"-owned and -built
meeting house—the walls were seen to be "adorned with pictures of the
founders of Bones at Yale, and of the members of the society in Germany, when
the Chapter was established here in 1832."

In the cellar, the "File and Claw" raiders found a small room, with an
"always-burning lamp" and "a dilapidated human skull." Upstairs three rooms
were found, a lodge room with its walls covered in black velvet, a 

[CTRL] FW: [CIA-DRUGS] UNDERNEWS Dec 27

1999-12-27 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

"Here are the numbers for the total U.S. Citizen Casualties Caused by
International Attacks, 1993-98. Note that the figures show no upward trend.
1993 7 1994 6 1995 10 1996 25 1997 6 1998 12"

Fearmongering to suit globalist political agendas includes CONCERTED
monopoply media attacking everyone in their homes with terror. "THE
TERRORISTS" are the media, and the politicians.


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 12:39 PM
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Subject: UNDERNEWS Dec 27


UNDERNEWS
December 27, 1999
Free-range journalism
from Washington's most unofficial source,
THE PROGRESSIVE REVIEW
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WORD

"Who controls the past," ran the Party slogan, "controls the future: who
controls the present controls the past." And yet the past, though of its
nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true
from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed
was an unending series of victories over your own memory. -- George Orwell,
1984

HIDDEN FACTS ABOUT TERRORISM

Nothing so well illustrates the misinformation the Clinton administration
and media have been spreading about terrorism than a series of charts buried
in the annual report on the subject by the State Department. While past
history is not necessarily predictive of what will happen tomorrow and
adding, say, the TWA 800 crash would change the totals significantly,  the
existing data on actual terrorists incidents compiled by State provides a
powerful indictment of White House and media fearmongering. Here is a
summary of the report prepared by Arab-American activist and researcher Ali
Abunimah:

**

1) TERRORISM WORLDWIDE IS DECREASING SIGNIFICANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY

There has been a significant and consistent downward trend in international
terrorist incidents in the period 1979-1998. In 1998, number of
international terrorist incidents, at 273, was the lowest ever in the
period, and the annual number has shown a consistent downward trend since it
reached a peak of 666 in 1987.

2) THE VAST MAJORITY OF INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST INCIDENTS ARE NOT RELATED TO
THE MIDDLE EAST, MUSLIM "EXTREMISTS" OR ARABS

Since 1995, Latin America has consistently had the highest annual number of
international terrorist incidents of any region, followed by Western Europe.
In 1998 there were 110 attacks in Latin America, 48 in Western Europe and 31
in the Middle East. There were 21 in Africa and zero in North America. In
terms of casualties (deaths+injuries), the highest number have consistently
been in Asia since 1993. In 1998 there were over 5,000 in Africa 635 in
Asia, 405 in Western Europe, 68 in the Middle East and zero in North
America.

3) EIGHTY PERCENT OF ATTACKS AGAINST UNITED STATES TARGETS ARE IN LATIN
AMERICA

Consistently, the vast majority of events defined by the State Department as
"anti-US attacks" occur in Latin America. In 1998, there was a total of 111
anti-US attacks. Eighty seven were in Latin America, 13 in Western Europe, 5
in the Middle East and 3 each in Africa and Eurasia. By far the most common
target of terrorists are businesses. Attacks on diplomats, military or
government installations are relatively rare. The total number of US
fatalities from these attacks in 1998 was 12, all related to the embassy
bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.

4) VERY FEW AMERICANS ARE KILLED BY TERRORISTS

Here are the numbers for the total U.S. Citizen Casualties Caused by
International Attacks, 1993-98. Note that the figures show no upward trend.

1993 7 1994 6 1995 10 1996 25 1997 6 1998 12

CONCLUSION

There is a complete disparity between the facts about international
terrorism as presented by the government on the one hand, and the media,
official and popular response to the issue on the other. There is no
objective connection between the frequency of terrorist attacks originating
from and occurring in the Middle East, and the amount of attention that such
attacks receive. President Clinton and other government officials have
repeatedly defined terrorism as one of the greatest threats facing the
world.

**

STATE DEPARTMENT CHARTS ON TERRORISM http://www.prorev.com/terror.htm
FULL ARTICLE BY ALI ABUNIMAH http://www.sightings.com/
STATE DEPARTMENT REPORT
http://www.state.gov/www/global/terrorism/1998Report/1998index.html)

JUST POLITICS

The Gore meltdown in New Hampshire continues. See our chart on the Undernews
page or get a comprehensive review of the polls 

Re: [CTRL] Question on the origin of AIDS

1999-12-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Actually, this culinary custom has endangered quite a few species of
primates, including the bonobos. The chaos caused by the ongoing Central
African war (can't call it a civil war any longer) has only made matters
worse, with soldiers and everyone else foraging off the land.

 -Original Message-
 From: Gavin Phillips [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 1:34 PM
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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Question on the origin of AIDS

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 Sounds like a lot of monkey business to me! Gavin.


 In a message dated 12/27/99 11:43:33 AM Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  More likely that someone *ate* a monkey which was carrying the Green
 Monkey
  Virus. Apparently the local equivalent of McDonald's in the Congo and
 Angola
  bush country is to shoot and stew a monkey... Yummy!

   -Original Message-
   From: Tenorlove [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 8:08 AM
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  [CTRL] Question on the origin of AIDS
  
-Caveat Lector-
  
   My hubby's pet theory is that AIDS came about because some guy had sex
   with a monkey. Is there any evidence that this could be the case?
  
   Tenorlove
   ducking cyber-tomatoes


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[CTRL] Homeopaths vs quackbusters, stage magicians, and fools...

1999-12-27 Thread Gavin Phillips

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In a message dated 12/26/99 9:49:34 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The problem here is that there IS no science to support the claims of
 homeopathy...NONE...the supporters of this fraud are fighting a losing battle
 and they know it...their desperation is clear,there merely clutching at
 straws.
 Bill. 


Bill, hard data to support homeopathic remedies is very hard to come by
because the FDA and the ACS purposely distort the results. Probably the most
famous incident of this is documented in Edward Griffin's book, World Without
Cancer, pages 40 through 52 when B17 was tested for four years at the
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in Manhattan. For five years between
1972 and 1977 laetrile was tested by the head researcher at the institute and
an icon in the cancer research field with over 60 years of experience, Dr.
Kanematsu Sugiura.

Dr. Sugiura was meticulous in his research and scrupulously honest. When he
published the results of his findings he had found that laetrile was
beneficial in helping regress tumors.( see page 41 for the whole paragraph).
This was not the result Sloan-Kettering was looking for. The board was
controlled by the Rockefellers and other wall street bankers who stood to
lose a fortune if a vitamin proved successful in treating cancer.

To cut a long story short the institute went to absurd lengths to prove
Suguira wrong. By changing protocols and manipulating statistics they
produced studies that showed that laetrile did not work Basically they lied,
lied and were caught out and shown to be the scum they are when Ralph Moss
(writer of many books on this subject) then (1977) Assistant Director of
Public Affairs held a press conference and charged that Sloan-Kettering had
engineered a massive cover-up, and he had the documentation to prove it. He
was fired the next day.

I highly recommend World Without Cancer. I have heard many recommendations
about The Cancer Cure That Worked by Barry Lynes, which is about Royal Rifes
bioray. It is on order. Gavin.

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[CTRL] Day of Deceit-FDR Pearl Harbor

1999-12-27 Thread Gavin Phillips

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 New book. Inside cover blurb. Gavin.

DAY OF DECEIT
THE TRUTH ABOUT FDR AND PEARL HARBOR
by Robert Stinnett




Pearl Harbor was not an accident, a mere failure of American intelligence, or
a brilliant Japanese military coup. It was the result of a carefully
orchestrated design, initiated at the highest levels of our government.
According to a key memorandum eight steps were taken to make sure we would
enter the war by this means. Pearl Harbor was the only way, leading officials
felt, to galvanize the reluctant American public into action.

This great question of Pearl Harbor--what did we know and when did we know
it?--has been argued for years. At first, a panel created by FDR concluded
that we had no advance warning and should blame only the local commanders for
lack of preparedness. More recently, historians such as John Toland and
Edward Beach have concluded that some intelligence was intercepted. Finally,
just months ago, the Senate voted to exonerate Hawaii commanders Admiral
Kimmel and Lieutenant General Short, after the Pentagon officially declared
that blame should be "broadly shared." But no investigator has ever been able
to prove that fore-knowledge of the attack existed at the highest levels.

Until now. After decades of Freedom of Information Act requests, Robert B.
Stinnett has gathered the long-hidden evidence that shatters every shibboleth
of Pearl Harbor. It shows that not only was the attack expected, it was
deliberately provoked through an eight-step program devised by the Navy.
Whereas previous investigators have claimed that our government did not crack
Japan's military codes before December 7, 1941, Stinnett offers cable after
cable of decryptions. He proves that a Japanese spy on the island transmitted
information--including a map of bombing targets--beginning on August 21, and
that government intelligence knew all about it. He reveals that Admiral
Kimmel was prevented from conducting a routine training exercise at the
eleventh hour that would have uncovered the location of the oncoming Japanese
fleet. And contrary to previous claims, he shows that the Japanese fleet did
not maintain radio silence as it approached Hawaii. Its many coded cables
were intercepted and decoded by American cryptographers in Stations on Hawaii
and in Seattle.

The evidence is overwhelming. At the highest levels--on FDR's desk--America
had ample warning of the pending attack. At those same levels, it was
understood that the isolationist American public would not support a
declaration of war unless we were attacked first. The result was a plan to
anger Japan, to keep the loyal officers responsible for Pearl Harbor in the
dark, and thus to drag America into the greatest war of her existence.

Yet even having found what he calls the "terrible truth," Stinnett is still
inclined to forgive. "I sympathize with the agonizing dilemma faced by
President Roosevelt," he writes. "He was forced to find circuitous means to
persuade an isolationist America to join in a fight for freedomIt is
easier to take a critical view of this policy a half century removed than to
understand fully what went on in Roosevelt's mind in the year prior to Pearl
Harbor."

Day of Deceit is the definitive final chapter on America's greatest secret
and our worst military disaster.

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Re: [CTRL] Homeopaths vs quackbusters, stage magicians, and fools...

1999-12-27 Thread William Shannon

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Gavin,
Laetrile and homeopathic "agents" are apples and oranges.
I am not saying that I believe "we" are being told everything, not by a long
shot, but I'm also unwilling to jump on every bandwagon that comes around.
I've looked into homeopathy, with a fair-minded attitude...what I found
pissed me off...and the fact that this quackery is being hawked at legitimate
pharmacies is an outrage...
No, I DO think that many good treatments are being witheld at the behest of
big pharmeceutical companies...but homeopathy ain't one of them.

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] [1] What a Long Strange Trip It's Been

1999-12-27 Thread Tenorlove

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BRAVO, Kris!

Wonderful--and so far I've just skimmed it. I'll have to print this one
so I can sit on the couch and SAVOR it.

Tenorlove


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[CTRL] Cooperation between the Albanian Mafia and the peacekeepers

1999-12-27 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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===
The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU

Start: Cooperation between the Albanian Mafia and the peacekeepers
December 26, 1999

Collaborators in crime

Skopje, December 26th (Tanjug) - In a text titled "Macedonia in the claws of
Albanian Mafia", Start weekly from Skopje reveals the oil, drug and
cigarettes smuggling on the territory of the "western Balkans" supported by
KFOR officers and UNMIK's head Bernard Kouchner.


The weekly remarks that this time it will not mention the white slavery,
although it is also under the control of the Albanian Mafia.


The business is so well organized in Macedonia, Bulgaria, Montenegro,
Kosovo-Metohija, and partly in Greece, that all that is left to the police
is
to play a role of a "silent observer". This is possible only if the state
authorities are involved in Mafia "dirty business", reports the weekly
stating the facts that, since the arrival of KFOR and UNMIK, Kosovo-Metohija
became the main "distribution and command center" of Mafia.


Conducting of this business, worth hundreds of German marks, includes the
members of the so-called KLA, i.e. their "officers", but only of high ranks
(captains, etc.). Thus, they are being paid for participating in ethnic
cleansing of the province. KLA terrorists are getting two percent of the
profit gained from heroin and cocaine sales in the European countries, says
the weekly. There are many among the Albanian Mafia, who, during the NATO
aggression on Yugoslavia, spent some time in the camps located in Albania,
in
the town of Korca, where they were trained for terrorist actions in Kosmet
and Macedonia. Many of them, after Kosovo-Metohija was ethnically cleansed,
were left jobless and afterwards joined the Albanian Mafia", Start reports.

Mafia also bribes KFOR officers, Kouchner's "peacekeepers" and individuals
from various humanitarian organizations, giving them 8-10 percent net gain.
In return, KFOR's, UNMIK's and humanitarians' duty is not only to turn a
blind eye to the ongoing events, but also to offer their vehicles and marks
for smuggling operations, for they are not being controlled", says the
weekly.

It was not coincidental that Kouchner appealed for the Macedonian-Kosmet
border to be revoked, for in that case the Albanian Mafia business would be
even more simple and reduced to a minimum risk.

The weekly also reports that arms, coming to Kosmet from various directions,
including the NATO depots, now represent a special kind of trade, reaching
even Chechnya.

This regards large quantity of light and heavy weaponry, even 100,000 pieces
of automatic riffles, pistols and machineguns, large quantities of
ammunition
and mines, the weekly reports.

Subject: [KDN] Serbia Info Albanian Mafia in Kosovo-Metohija


 Albanian Mafia in Kosovo-Metohija
 December 24, 1999

 Pristina, December 24th - Mafia, which obviously came to
 Kosovo-Metohija from Albania, uses "Sicilian methods" in front
 of KFOR and UNMIK, which is confirmed by more frequent
 clashes between ethnic-Albanian "godfathers" struggling to divide
 the territory on which they would eliminate their rivals, loot
 property and impose the jungle law.

 According to the reports from Kosovska Vitina, clashes between
 gangs, which illegally came from Albania, have been lasting for
 already 20 days in this municipality. They are dividing "spheres of
 influence" using automatic weapon even on Albanians, who
 cooperate with Serbian authorities. According to the claims made
 by the local human rights board, former judge Meydi Seydia was
 recently killed because he came into conflict with local Mafia.

 The area of Gnjilane turned into a center of criminals, even
 murderers, released by local Albanian judges, as well as of
 members of Mafia coming from neighbouring Albania and
 Macedonia. The rule of the physically stronger is in effect in
 Pristina, Prizren, Drenica and other places - centers of criminals
 who illegally came from Albania and Macedonia due to open
 borders.

 "Borders are still open, in spite of the KFOR claims that they are
 being better protected. Numerous gangs came to Kosovo from the
 neighbouring countries. They mostly attack Serbs and
 Montenegrins, but also Albanians, particularly those loyal to
 legitimate Yugoslav authorities", said the Federal Government
 Committee for cooperation with UNMIK.



FOCUS-Montenegro minister quits over Mafia charge
  02:45 p.m Dec 23, 1999 Eastern

  By Douglas Hamilton

  PODGORICA, Dec 23 (Reuters) - Montenegro's
  Foreign Minister Branko Perovic resigned on
  Thursday over alleged involvement in smuggling
  and criminal association with the Italian Mafia.



Subject: [KDN] Serbia Info Pristina prosecutor demands investigation into
Kouchner'sactions


 Pristina prosecutor demands investigation into Kouchner's actions
 December 23, 1999

 Nis, Dec 22 (Tanjug) - The Pristina District
 Public Prosecutor's Office on Wednesday
 asked the local 

[CTRL] ***747 Blown Out of Sky***

1999-12-27 Thread Edward Britton

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Jumbo jet blown out of sky?
Details of crash in England
kept secret from public




By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

A 747 cargo jet was blown from the sky by an apparent terrorist bomb, but
details of the crash have been largely kept secret from the public,
according to intelligence and military sources.
A Korean Air 747 cargo plane crashed into a field Dec. 22 just after
takeoff from Stansted Airport in Essex, killing a crew of four. Witnesses
reported that it exploded violently in mid-air only minutes after rising
into the air.

Intelligence sources confirmed to WorldNetDaily that a terrorist bomb is
the most likely cause of the crash, and Osama bin Laden's forces are the
key suspects.

"There was a large flash followed by a large bang," eyewitness Neil Foster
told the BBC.

"There was a big explosion and huge flames in the sky," Annette
Brooke-Taylor described. "It was a sort of mushroom shape. An incredible
sight. It lit up the sky. There was a tremendous noise. There were lots of
flaming particles in the sky and then it went very quiet and then we
realized something terrible had happened."

The crash took place only hours after the 11th anniversary of the downing
of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, with the loss of 270 people.
Using the Jewish calendar, the dates of the two crashes were exactly 11
years apart -- 13 Tevet.

"Dates are very important to these people. You have to believe there is a
message here," said the intelligence source.

The cargo plane is said to have contained NATO military equipment headed
for Italy, but official sources have not confirmed what freight was
contained on the plane.

Military and intelligence officials say the attack may be an indication bin
Laden is making good on his pledge to mount "pitiless and violent" attacks
against U.S. and other targets worldwide.

The hijacking of India Air flight 814 with 160 passengers on board was
cited as "just the beginning of bin Laden's plans," according to several
foreign papers attributing a U.S. intelligence source. The reports have not
linked the two events, but there appears to be evidence which ties the two
events to bin Laden.

Media around the world have given significant attention to the hijacking of
India Air flight 814, but virtually no coverage has been given to the crash
of the Korean cargo plane.

Hijackers said to be tied to bin Laden took control of the India Air
passenger plane and demanded the release from prison in India of Malauna
Masood Azghar, the leader of a Kashmiri militant group, Harkat al
Mujahideen. He was convicted for the kidnap and murder of five western
tourists in 1995.

Azghar has camps in eastern Afghanistan near bin Laden's base of
operations. He receives training and funding from bin Laden, just as many
similar groups receive assistance from him.

The hijacked jet arrived first in the southern Afghan City of Kandahar. It
sat on the runway for many hours, just a short distance from one of bin
Laden's hideouts, according to the intelligence source.

The terrorists appealed for asylum, but Afghanistan declined. They were
provided with food and fuel but still refused to leave for many hours while
still negotiating to stay in Afghanistan. They threatened to crash the
plane if a safe landing was not permitted elsewhere.

If the ties to bin Laden are true, the terrorists may have expected those
ties to help them with their agenda to free Azghar. They did not succeed.

The downing of the Korean Air cargo flight and the hijacking of Indian Air
flight 814 are seen by some U.S. intelligence and FBI sources as possible
first strikes in a long-expected assault as part of bin Laden's declared
jihad (holy war) against the U.S., Israel, and India.

The FBI has ordered a security crackdown at all international air and
seaports. FBI spokesmen have confirmed to the media that they are concerned
a hostile group may try to bomb U.S. power plants, including nuclear plants.

Police in New York City have been reported checking the extensive sewer
system below Times Square where a major New Years Eve celebration will take
place.

The FBI recently issued a warning to Americans to be cautious of packages
mailed from Frankfurt, Germany.

Ahmed Ressam, a suspected terrorist trained by bin Laden, was captured
driving a car loaded with explosives into Washington state.

The State Department has issued warnings to Americans that it is dangerous
to attend large events during the holiday period. It also evacuated over
800 U.S. diplomats from foreign assignments as a precaution. Very tight
security and a red alert have been placed in effect at all U.S. embassies
around the world.

Another suspected terrorist, Lucia Garofalo, was stopped at the Vermont
border. The FBI claims she has ties to Algerian Islamic groups supported by
bin Laden. Her car did not contain explosives, but it did test positive for

Re: [CTRL] Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship

1999-12-27 Thread pmeares

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Tatman, Robert wrote:

 And the Mexican War was equally a manufactured war, created with the sole
 objective of opening the way for U.S. annexation of a significant portion of
 Mexican territory.

[From the same thread on another list]:

Subject:  [fwo] GENL: Re: Fake Terrorism and the Road to Dictatorship
Date:  Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:43:43 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 `Under the slogan "Remember the Maine", Americans went to war with
 Spain, wresting from that nation ownership of what is now much of the
 American southwest.

Actually, the southwest was taken in a earlier crime spree during the 1840's
that the then-alleged "government of the united states" managed to provoke
the then-alleged "government of mexico" into starting.  Thoreau became
famous during this period for being a
"war tax resister"- i.e. refusing to pay tribute to the gang that committed
crimes on behalf of "america's" secret gang of robbers  murderers.  The
"splendid little bloodbath" of 1898 gave the secret gang of robbers 
murderers a bunch of Caribbean  Pacific possessions, including the
Phillippines, and marked the beginning of the gang's status as a
"recognized world power".

 While several American Presidents have willingly started wars for
 personal purposes, perhaps no President has ever carried it to the
 extreme that Bill Clinton has.

I disagree here.  I certainly do not doubt the mendacious talents for
"improv" fiction of the current dog-wagger-in-chief, but, although his
crimes are blatant  numerous enough to earn the "title" for the last
several decades, he is, in the last analysis, just too petty and preoccupied
a crook to measure up to previous hoodlums-in-chief, namely, in addition to
FDR, Wilson  Lincoln(not necessarily in order).

 Lincoln, to an extent no thug-in-chief had previously dared, trashed
protections of individual rights; denied due process to people not even
charged w/ specific crimes; engaged in the most expensive  ruinous war ever
to take place on the North American continent; ordered  authorized his
accomplices, especially
"generals" Sherman  Grant, to commit crimes against those posing no threat
to them, with the express intention of destroying their livelihoods and
making them dependent on the caprices of jackbooted thugs for their very
survival; he  his successors ordered further such crimes, persisting for
years after the official end of the "war"; and he  his sucessors issued a
continual stream of lies, distortions, and stupifying drivel, specifically to induce
otherwise sensible people to endorse all of these criminal acts.  To cap it all off,
when those oppressed by his crimes were afforded a small token of justice by way of
the shooting of this thug-in-chief while he spent stolen funds
wallowing like a prized pig in unearned  undeserved luxury, not only the
shooter, but several others as well, including a doctor who had done nothing
more than perform his proper duties and others who had little or no
connection w/the shooting, were ruthlessly hunted down  killed by goons
acting under pretense of enforcing "the law"(so-called). His crimes served
to set considerable precedents for the steady expansion of tolerated
criminality repression of agoric voluntarism that plagues the world to this
day-and because of this, the secret gang of robbers  murderers has decreed
that his birthday, (together with that of the first gangster-in-chief, who
was quite a character himself, gaining power in the bloodless coup that
created the high-level gang(aka the so-called "federal government") that
collects tribute for the secret gang) be comemmorated with a national
holiday, and that every concentration campus("school"), crimethink
suppressor("TV", "radio", "papers", "magazines", etc.), local regional
crime-syndicate headquarters("local", "county", and "state" "government"
(so-called) offices), and propaganda organ(public relations offices,
chambers of commerce, etc.) be filled to bursting with effusive praise for
this  wretched humanoid organism's "great accomplishments"
and "selfless service"! The only thing he accomplished in any public
capacity was death  destruction; the only "selfless" public act he ever
performed(albeit very much against his will) was to die. The good that came
from his acts- the manumission  enfranchising of African-descended slaves-
was neither desired nor supported by him.  His sole interest was in
maintaining  increasing his power over both North  South.   Clinton's
self-interest may be clumsier and more blatantly obvious- but it is hardly
more "extreme".  The myth that massive worldwide crime sprees(often
mislabeled as "wars") are undertaken for charitable or benevolent purposes
is one of the many insidious lies used to gain support- and to blame antiwar
protesters  "subversives" when the "benevolent purposes" fail to
materialize as promised.

Ayn Rand put it well (Atlas Shrugged, p. 962):

   "...if the ravages wrought by their 

[CTRL] WND EXCLUSIVE: 747 Jumbo Jet Blown from Sky (fwd)

1999-12-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

From:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/19991227_xex_jumbo_jet_bl.shtml

WorldNetDaily
MONDAY - DECEMBER 27 - 1999
--
WND Exclusive
--
Jumbo jet blown out of sky?

Details of crash in England kept secret from public

By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

A 747 cargo jet was blown from the sky by an apparent terrorist
bomb, but details of the crash have been largely kept secret from
the public, according to intelligence and military sources.

A Korean Air 747 cargo plane crashed into a field Dec. 22 just
after takeoff from Stansted Airport in Essex, killing a crew of
four. Witnesses reported that it exploded violently in mid-air
only minutes after rising into the air.

Intelligence sources confirmed to WorldNetDaily that a terrorist
bomb is the most likely cause of the crash, and Osama bin Laden's
forces are the key suspects.

"There was a large flash followed by a large bang," eyewitness
Neil Foster told the BBC.

"There was a big explosion and huge flames in the sky," Annette
Brooke-Taylor described. "It was a sort of mushroom shape. An
incredible sight. It lit up the sky. There was a tremendous
noise. There were lots of flaming particles in the sky and then
it went very quiet and then we realized something terrible had
happened."

The crash took place only hours after the 11th anniversary of the
downing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, with the
loss of 270 people. Using the Jewish calendar, the dates of the
two crashes were exactly 11 years apart -- 13 Tevet.

"Dates are very important to these people. You have to believe
there is a message here," said the intelligence source.

The cargo plane is said to have contained NATO military equipment
headed for Italy, but official sources have not confirmed what
freight was contained on the plane.

Military and intelligence officials say the attack may be an
indication bin Laden is making good on his pledge to mount
"pitiless and violent" attacks against U.S. and other targets
worldwide.

The hijacking of India Air flight 814 with 160 passengers on
board was cited as "just the beginning of bin Laden's plans,"
according to several foreign papers attributing a U.S.
intelligence source. The reports have not linked the two events,
but there appears to be evidence which ties the two events to bin
Laden.

Media around the world have given significant attention to the
hijacking of India Air flight 814, but virtually no coverage has
been given to the crash of the Korean cargo plane.

Hijackers said to be tied to bin Laden took control of the India
Air passenger plane and demanded the release from prison in India
of Malauna Masood Azghar, the leader of a Kashmiri militant
group, Harkat al Mujahideen. He was convicted for the kidnap and
murder of five western tourists in 1995.

Azghar has camps in eastern Afghanistan near bin Laden's base of
operations. He receives training and funding from bin Laden, just
as many similar groups receive assistance from him.

The hijacked jet arrived first in the southern Afghan City of
Kandahar. It sat on the runway for many hours, just a short
distance from one of bin Laden's hideouts, according to the
intelligence source.

The terrorists appealed for asylum, but Afghanistan declined.
They were provided with food and fuel but still refused to leave
for many hours while still negotiating to stay in Afghanistan.
They threatened to crash the plane if a safe landing was not
permitted elsewhere.

If the ties to bin Laden are true, the terrorists may have
expected those ties to help them with their agenda to free
Azghar. They did not succeed.

The downing of the Korean Air cargo flight and the hijacking of
Indian Air flight 814 are seen by some U.S. intelligence and FBI
sources as possible first strikes in a long-expected assault as
part of bin Laden's declared jihad (holy war) against the U.S.,
Israel, and India.

The FBI has ordered a security crackdown at all international air
and seaports. FBI spokesmen have confirmed to the media that they
are concerned a hostile group may try to bomb U.S. power plants,
including nuclear plants.

Police in New York City have been reported checking the extensive
sewer system below Times Square where a major New Years Eve
celebration will take place.

The FBI recently issued a warning to Americans to be cautious of
packages mailed from Frankfurt, Germany.

Ahmed Ressam, a suspected terrorist trained by bin Laden, was
captured driving a car loaded with explosives into Washington
state.

The State Department has issued warnings to Americans that it is
dangerous to attend large events during the holiday period. It
also evacuated over 800 U.S. diplomats from foreign assignments
as a precaution. Very tight security and a red alert have been
placed in effect at all U.S. embassies around the world.

Another suspected terrorist, Lucia Garofalo, was stopped at the
Vermont border. The FBI claims she has ties to Algerian 

[CTRL] Did Clinton fix mom's case? (fwd)

1999-12-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19991227_xex_did_clinton_.shtml

MONDAY
DECEMBER 27
1999

ALL THE PRESIDENT'S SCANDALS

Did Clinton fix mom's wrongful-death case?

Deposition by president's mother raises questions about his role

© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Did Bill Clinton influence the Arkansas medical examiner in 1981
to ignore available evidence and instead make his autopsy
findings favor Clinton's mother, a nurse-anesthetist embroiled in
two accidental hospital deaths and a wrongful death lawsuit?

A new Arkansas scandal book sheds light on Bill Clinton's mother,
Virginia Kelley, and the role she played in the deaths of two
women at a Hot Springs hospital in 1978 and 1981.

Laura Slayton died in 1978 while Kelley was providing anesthesia.
Susie Deer died in 1981 because of Kelley's alleged incompetence.

"The Boys on the Tracks," written by Arkansas Times columnist
Mara Leveritt, deals with the mysterious murders of two teenage
boys in 1987, but it also focuses on Virginia Kelley's
involvement in two cases of negligent homicide.

Leveritt points the finger at Dr. Fahmy Malak, Arkansas' former
medical examiner who conducted the autopsies on the teenage boys
and also absolved Kelley of responsibility for the death of Susie
Deer. Clinton had hired Malak during his first term as governor
and protected the medical examiner from being removed -- until he
launched his presidential bid.

Incompetence and death Virginia Kelley, now deceased, was a
nurse-anesthetist who worked at Ouachita Memorial Hospital in Hot
Springs, Ark. in the late '70s and early '80s.

In 1981, Kelley was named in a lawsuit over the death of Laura
Lee Slayton, who died in 1978 while undergoing minor surgery at
Ouachita. Kelley was the anesthetist during the surgery. The
surgeon was also sued for failing to properly supervise Kelley.
Eventually, Slayton's family dropped the case against the
surgeon, while Kelley settled out of court and paid the family
$90,000 in damages.

In June 1981, just two months after the Slayton lawsuit was
filed, Kelley became embroiled in a second hospital death. This
time it involved a 17-year-old mother. Susie Deer had been riding
in the back of a car when someone in the car yelled a racial
epithet at Billy Ray Washington, a black man, and his wife who
were walking home. In retaliation, Washington picked up a chunk
of concrete and threw it through the back window of the car,
hitting Deer in the face.

Deer was admitted to the hospital and underwent surgery to repair
broken teeth and injuries to her face. Three hours into the
operation, Virginia Kelley was asked by her surgeon to transfer
an oxygen tube from Deer's nose to her throat. According to
Leveritt, after Kelley inserted the tube into her throat, vomit
began coming up through the tube. The surgeons realized she had
put the tube down into Deer's stomach instead of her lungs.
Kelley tried at least twice to correct her mistake, but couldn't
do it. Dr. James Griffin took over for her. By that time Deer had
gone into cardiac arrest, and died an hour later.

Deer's death had to be investigated, and the findings of the
medical examiner, "were going to be very important to Virginia
Kelley's career," according to Leveritt.

Then-Arkansas Medical Examiner Dr. Fahmy Malak performed the
autopsy on Deer and ruled that she had died of blunt trauma to
the head. Billy Ray Washington was arrested and spent two and a
half months in jail. Griffin told the Los Angeles Times in 1992
that Malak should have considered that Deer's death was caused by
inadequate care, not the blow to the head. In fact, according to
Leveritt, all three doctors who were in the operating room that
day believed that Kelley had caused Deer's death because of her
negligence.

Malak's bizarre ruling favored Virginia Kelley, who was already
facing another lawsuit for negligence in the death of Laura
Slayton, says Leveritt.

In spite of Malak's ruling, however, the medical community in Hot
Springs was through with Kelley, banning her from practicing at
the local hospitals. Leveritt says in her book that the
physicians in town had long been wary of Kelley's lack of skill
as an anesthetist. They were also concerned about her
unprofessional behavior in the operating room.

"When interviewing members of the medical profession for the
book, one of the things I heard several times was that she was
known to come into the operating room carrying a racing form,
which she read during surgery. She had a kind of cavalier
attitude about a number of practices. Sometimes [during an
operation] she'd wipe blood off of her shoes and wore jangly
jewelry and bracelets," says Leveritt. "She didn't seem to think
reading a racing form was a very serious breach of operating room
conduct."

After being banned from area hospitals, Kelley fought back by
filing a lawsuit against the hospitals and physicians. She wanted
her nursing privileges back. However, a year after the lawsuit,
she dropped 

[CTRL] Bresnahan/FEMA Director Rick Wyland Interview (7-8pm ET) (fwd)

1999-12-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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12/27/99

David Bresnahan will interview FEMA Regional Director
Rick Wyland at 7-8pm ET.  He's subbing for Don Parker.

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[CTRL] Despicable Miscarriage of Justice - If Correct

1999-12-27 Thread Gavin Phillips

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From: "Jim Barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Carl Alexander
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 1998 12:00 AM
Subject: An Illusion Of Justice

AN ILLUSION OF JUSTICE

The only thing worse than being convicted of a crime and sent to prison
when you are innocent... is when the government deliberately does it,
and then tries to keep you there.

In July, 1996, John Irvin Pitner was arrested at his home in Deming, WA,
and charged with six counts of conspiracy to overthrow the US Government.
Among other charges, he was accused of conspiring to manufacture pipebombs,
convert weapons to fire on full-automatic, and to assault  kill federal
officers
in the performance of their official duties.

These charges stemmed from a year-long undercover FBI investigation
into the activities of the Washington State Militia, of which Pitner was the
founder  former Executive Director. They were based largely on the
testimony of Edward G. Maeurer, a three-time convicted felon (fraud),
who had infiltrated the militia group as a paid FBI informant beginning
in June, 1995.

Maeurer's official reports to the FBI claimed that he had seen  handled
fully-automatic M-16's, dynamite, grenades, sacks of fertilizer  night-
vision devices stolen from Ft. Lewis, WA, at a 'fortified' room in Pitner's
garage. He claimed the militia group was planning to kill federal officers,
blow up government buildings, and assassinate David Rockefeller while
he attended a conference on the Olympic Peninsula, in WA State.
Maeurer's reports led to a full field investigation of the WSM being
conducted, and the placement of an undercover FBI agent into the group.

Seven people, including Pitner, were eventually arrested  brought to trial.
After six weeks, the jury could not reach a verdict on the conspiracy
charges,
and a mistrial was declared. Pitner, along with three other militia members,
was found guilty of separate illegal-weapons charges in March, '97. Pitner,
who has never been sentenced for that crime, remains incarcerated at the
Federal Detention Center SEATAC, in Seattle, WA.

Astoundingly, according to the sworn testimony of informant Maeurer and
the FBI agents participating in this case, the following facts were made
known
during the trial:

1. Maeurer had lied to his FBI handler's all during the investigation. On
or about
20 February, 1996, Maeurer was given a series of polygraph examinations by
Special Agent Raymond Lauer, a certified polygraph examiner for the FBI,
concerning what he had seen and done at Pitner's home. Maeurer recanted ever
having seen or handled any M-16's. He recanted ever having seen any
grenades,or dynamite. (The stolen military night-vision devices had earlier
been
recovered
 were never in the possession of the WSM.) Instead, he "might have" seen an
M-16. Or, it might have been "a toy". Instead of actually seeing or
handling any
dynamite or grenades, he now claimed to have seen boxes which he "knew"
contained those explosives.

2. There was no 'fortified' room in Pitner's garage. A storage room,
constructed of
plywood  two-by-fours, had been built in the garage and the door was not
even
kept locked.

3. Under questioning by federal prosecutors and defense counsel, as to why
he had lied about Pitner to his FBI employers, Maeurer said he thought
Pitnerwas dangerous and needed to be arrested.

4. Maeurer owed in excess of $35,000 in summary judgement outstanding
againsthim, for passing fradulent checks, at the time he began informing on
the WSM.
Under questioning, he admitted that he had never re-paid any of this
court-ordered
restitution.

5. John Pitner had resigned as Director of the WSM three months prior to his
arrest, due to growing financial, marital and health problems. His wife
had left
him, he had suffered a small stroke that summer, and was no longer attending
any militia meetings.

6. Michael German (the undercover FBI agent) and Maeurer (the paid
informant)assumed leadership positions within the militia group after
Pitner's
departure,
becoming members of a three-man Leadership Council heading the WSM.

7. German and Maeurer instigated every illegal activity performed by the
militia
members, after assuming leadership of the organization. It was German 
Maeurer
who first suggested building pipebombs to sell and raise money for the WSM,
through German's supposed 'contacts' in the military surplus business. It
wasGerman  Maeurer who brought the idea up over  over again, until people
agreed to do it. It was German  Maeurer who first suggested converting
weapons
to full-automatic, and insisted on stockpiling them, and pushed the idea
until it was
acted upon. It was German who leased a warehouse in downtown Seattle, and
German who bought milling equipment needed to alter the weapons, and German
who directed people to travel out-of-state to purchase bomb components.

8. German and Maeurer caused suspicion and distrust of Pitner to develop
among
the other militia members. They engendered the belief that Pitner had 

[CTRL] Test signal caused crash of spy aircraft

1999-12-27 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.ohio.com/bj/news/ohio/docs/025192.htm

Posted at 5:38 p.m. EST Monday,
   December 27, 1999

Test signal caused crash of spy aircraft

   DAYTON, Ohio (AP) -- A test signal
   inadvertently received by the
   military's Global Hawk unmanned
   spy plane caused it to crash last March
   in the California desert, Air Force
   officials said Monday.

   The high-altitude reconnaissance
   aircraft went down 20 minutes after
   takeoff from Edwards Air Force Base
   on March 29. It was at 41,000 feet
   when it went nose down in a rolling
   vertical dive.

   The Global Hawk program is
   managed at Wright-Patterson Air
   Force Base in Dayton.

   The Air Force accident investigation
   board said the $45 million plane
   inadvertently received a test signal for
   flight termination from the test range
   at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev.

   The Air Force said the signal was
   outside the frequency zone in which
   the aircraft's mission was being flown
   and caused it to go into a
   pre-programmed vertical descent.

   Maj. Kevin Baron, assistant staff judge
   advocate at Air Force Materiel
   Command, said the Global Hawk flew
   so high that it lost the signal coming
   from Edwards and began receiving the
   next strongest signal, that from Nellis.

   Baron said it was an unusual set of
   circumstances and no one was to
   blame.

   ``There was nothing about the aircraft
   itself that caused the accident,'' he
   said.

   However, Baron also the signal system
   that was in place before the crash no
   longer is being used.

   The Global Hawk is the only
   high-altitude, long-endurance robot
   plane being considered for use by the
   military. There are currently
   unmanned reconnaissance aircraft in
   use that operate at lower altitudes.

   Global Hawks are designed to fly as
   high as 65,000 feet for as long as 40
   hours. The V-tailed aircraft has a
   116-foot wingspan and is more than
   44 feet long.

   In battle, the plane would use radar
   and optical and infrared sensors to
   provide imagery of a battlefield area
   to a commander via satellite
   communications links.

   Flight testing of the Global Hawk was
   suspended for six weeks following the
   crash. Testing was suspended again
   Dec. 6 after a Global Hawk was
   damaged when it veered off a runway
   at Edwards.

   There are currently four Global
   Hawks, one of which has not begun
   the flight testing process.

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Re: [CTRL] KAL Crash- What Aren't We Being Told?

1999-12-27 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 12/27/99 11:43:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jumbo jet blown out of sky?
  Details of crash in England
  kept secret from public

  
  

  By David M. Bresnahan
  © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

  A 747 cargo jet was blown from the sky by an apparent terrorist bomb,
  but details of the crash have been largely kept secret from the public,
  according to intelligence and military sources.
  A Korean Air 747 cargo plane crashed into a field Dec. 22 just after
  takeoff from Stansted Airport in Essex, killing a crew of four.
  Witnesses reported that it exploded violently in mid-air only minutes
  after rising into the air.


No bomb here.  Some guy named PATSEY just left the fuel cap off and there was
a spark from a defective shinklifter valve, and anyone who saw a flash or
object racing towards the plane, was just seeing the plane itself react
violently to the sparking fuel, or they are NUTZ.
That editorial provided free of charge from Big Brother News, all the news
that's fit to manufacture.

**
***
"Welcome to the desert of the real."  Morpheus, "The Matrix".

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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[CTRL] Newbie Thanks

1999-12-27 Thread Kathryn R Smith

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I just wanted to thank all who wrote to me and also to say that the book
mentioned sounds very informative.
 I do respect the various religions represented here and appreciate it
being pointed out to me.   :-)
 I'm still (joyfully) wading through my mail.  :-)
 I may not be very vocal but I am appreciating reading the list when I
have time to get to it.
 Kathy

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Re: [CTRL] Day of Deceit-FDR Pearl Harbor

1999-12-27 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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At 02:30 PM 12/27/99 -0500, Gavin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
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 New book. Inside cover blurb. Gavin.

DAY OF DECEIT
THE TRUTH ABOUT FDR AND PEARL HARBOR
by Robert Stinnett

- - -  snip - - -

Day of Deceit is the definitive final chapter on America's greatest secret
and our worst military disaster.


I doubt that it is the "final chapter" by any stretch of the imagination.

Rather, it abundantantly reconfirms the thesis that most, it not all of the
major wars in this century involving the United States involved the use
of deception to engineer U.S. participation.

World War I:The purported sinking of the ferry Sussex, later shown to be
false;
the sinking of the Lusitania, later shown to have been carrying war
contraband.

Also, the "Germans spearing babies on their bayonets" hoax.  (It
never happend, folks; it was British war propaganda.)


World War II:  The engineered bombing of Pearl Harbor

Korea:  ??

Vietnam:The Gulf of Tonkin incident

Haiti:  The "our guy is not as corrupt" hoax
and the "we have to stop the boat people
after we gave them the green light" hoax

Desert Storm:   The Kuwait incubator babies massacre hoax

Somalia War:the "chemical weapons factory" hoax

Kosovo War: the "ethnic cleansing" hoax


What this country needs is a good HONEST war!


DBC

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[CTRL] Clinton Pushes Net Drug Rules

1999-12-27 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Clinton Pushes Net Drug Rules
Plan Requires Web Sites to Get Federal Approval


By Laura Meckler
The Associated Press
W A S H I N G T O N, Dec. 27 —Hoping to stem illegal sales of prescription
drugs over the Internet, President Clinton is proposing new laws that would
require Web sites to get federal approval and that would stiffen fines for
violators.
 Clinton also wants $10 million for the Food and Drug Administration to
strengthen enforcement, officials said today.
 “Many of the traditional safeguards that have been in place for many
years are breaking down,” FDA Commissioner Jane Henney said. “We have to
have a way to keep some semblance of a safety net in place.”
 New laws and new money would have to be approved by Congress.
 Traditionally, states have regulated pharmacies. But the Internet poses
new, interstate challenges, in which a Web site operator may be in one
state, the pharmacist in another and a patient in a third, Henney noted.
 In many cases, legitimate online pharmacies make it easy and convenient
for consumers to get the drugs they need delivered to their doors,
particularly for people in rural areas and the homebound.
Drugs Sent Without Prescription
But there have been several cases in which Web sites sent drugs out without
a valid prescription or dispensed drugs that were not legally available in
the United States.
 The FDA recently uncovered illegal at-home AIDS tests sold via the
Internet that didn’t work, meaning some people may have thought they were
healthy when they had the deadly HIV virus.
 The FDA also has pointed to a 53-year-old Chicago man who died after
taking the impotence pill Viagra he ordered via the Internet. He never saw a
doctor who could have advised him that he had heart disease risks that make
taking Viagra dangerous.
 “Traditionally, there have been several safeguards to protect consumers
against unsafe use of drugs,” the White House said in a draft of a fact
sheet to be released Tuesday. “The Internet makes it easy to bypass these
safeguards. Unethical doctors can illegally prescribe pills online to
consumers they have never met in states where they are not authorized to
work.”
 The administration has said repeatedly it is not interested in
regulating the Internet, hoping to avoid stifling the growing medium. But
officials said they must protect consumers, who may not know whether an
online drugstore is legitimate or whether its pharmacists have been properly
trained.

FDA Launches Web Page
Last week, the FDA opened a consumer-advice Web page to help patients ensure
they’re buying from legitimate stores instead of dangerous quacks.
 But the agency has been frustrated in its crackdown effort. Under
current federal law, it is only a misdemeanor to improperly dispense drugs.
 Under Clinton’s proposal:
 Online pharmacies would be required to get FDA certification that they are
legally operating or face sanctions.
 Violators would face a $500,000 fine for each time they sold a prescription
drug to someone without a valid prescription.
 The FDA would get new power to subpoena the records of online sites while
investigating these operators.
 The FDA would get $10 million in the 2001 budget to hire investigators and
upgrade computer equipment.
 It is unclear how these rules, even if approved, would affect Web sites
operating out of other countries.

Congressional Response Unclear
The White House also plans a public education campaign, using $250,000 of
FDA money budgeted this year for a variety of other programs. It will
include ads on health Web sites and public service announcements for
television.
 It may be tough getting Congress to give new money or power to the FDA,
which did not get most of its budget requests granted this year. But Henney
is optimistic. “We think Congress is interested in the Internet overall,”
she said.
 With the exception of child pornography, the Internet has been largely
unregulated by government.
 But other regulations will probably come as government tries to apply
long-standing laws to cyberspace, said Tara Lemmey, president of the San
Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, which tracks Internet public
policy.
 “This may be the first of a series of these that we see,” she said.


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[CTRL] Cell phone health effects - the definitive statement (fwd)

1999-12-27 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 From: "Roy L. Beavers" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   emfguru [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999
 Subj: June 1999 Memorandum on Cell Phones and Health
 by Dr. G.J. Hyland

 ...We are indebted to Eva Marsalek (Vienna, Austria) for
 providing the following..

 I am forwarding it in its entirety because I want to ensure that
 it is widely circulated -- which might not happen if I merely post
 it on my website.  (I will do that also.)

 Until something better is produced, I believe it ought to be
 regarded as the definitive statement on the subject.

 (As a suggestion to help in understanding this paper, it might
 help to go again and read the "Understanding EMF" paper that is on
 guru's website http://www.emfguru.com  filed under "EMF ??".
 Dr. Hyland is talking about the consequences of the physical
 phenomenon that is described there.)

 Cheerio

 Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ..It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness..
NEW!!!  Website www.emfguru.com
 People are more important than profits..



 Gerard Hylands paper was presented at the "Non-Ionising Radiation
 Conference" organised by the International Radiation Protection
 Association in Cologne, Germany,  Sept 27 - Oct 1, 1999.





 MOBILE PHONES AND HEALTH INQUIRY

 MEMORANDUM

 by

 Dr G J Hyland

 Department of Physics
 University of Warwick
 Coventry, UK

 and

 International Institute of Biophysics
 Neuss-Holzheim
 Germany


 18 June 1999


 PERSONAL STATEMENT

 Since 1985, I have been involved with the interaction of
 non-ionising radiation -- specifically MICROWAVES -- with living
 organisms, actively developing the novel ideas of H. Fröhlich, FRS,
 who, 30 years ago, first predicted that adequately metabolising
 living systems themselves support a coherent microwave activity.

 During the last 18 months, I have been applying my findings to the
 question of potential health hazards posed by mobile telephones and
 their associated base stations.

 I am recognised as an international expert in this field, and have
 published numerous articles and papers -- dealing not only with the
 microwave sensitivity of living systems, but also with the emission
 from them of coherent, ultra-weak light (biophotons).  I am
 regularly invited to speak at international conferences, at
 meetings of Professional Bodies (such as the Institution of
 Electrical Engineers), and on radio and television, both national
 and international.  My work is frequently reported on in the Press,
 and has recently been the subject of articles and features in
 numerous international magazines, including the New Scientist.

 Given my vantagepoint from theoretical biophysics, I believe that
 I am uniquely qualified to assess the problem in its entirety,
 thereby being able to offer invaluable insights that might not
 otherwise be available.


 SUMMARY


 Attention is drawn to the inadequacy of existing safety guide-lines
 governing the exposure of the public to radiation of the kind used
 in mobile telephony, and to the fact that the philosophy underlying
 the formulation of these guide-lines is fundamentally flawed.

 This is because only established, reproducible effects are
 currently considered to constitute an acceptable basis for the
 formulation of safety guidelines; this restricts the effects
 against which some degree of protection is afforded to
 intensity-based heating.  For, being independent of whether the
 irradiated object is dead or alive, they can be predicted with
 certainty.

 Thereby excluded, however, are possible adverse health effects
 provoked by the ability of living organisms -- and only living ones
 -- to respond in an non-thermal way to aspects of this radiation
 other than its intensity -- specifically its frequency -- both the
 microwave carrier and the lower frequency amplitude modulations
 that characterise the digital signals employed by the GSM system.
 The dependence of these effects on the aliveness of the organism
 necessarily means that they cannot enjoy the same degree of
 reproducibility, as do those that are not so dependent.  This does
 not mean, however, that they do not exist, or that they should be
 excluded from the formulation of safety guidelines; indeed, the
 very real possibility that they might trigger adverse health
 effects must be seriously considered.  The empirical fact that such
 radiation is known to have deleterious effects on both the
 neurological and immunological functioning of living organisms
 including humans is consistent with this possibility.

 Systematic experimentation is urgently needed, not only in order to
 be able to identify more precisely the parameters governing
 non-thermal influences of ultra-low intensity microwave (and low
 

Re: [CTRL] Day of Deceit-FDR Pearl Harbor

1999-12-27 Thread Eagle 1

 -Caveat Lector-

"Damian B. Cooper" wrote:
What this country needs is a good HONEST war!

Yeah,  I'd agree with that.  But tell me,  where are you going to get the
true blue, flag waving, patriotic, "willing to die for country and freedom"
military to do it...???  A military that allows "time outs" during basic
training,  with little if any discipline,  would get their behinds kicked
all over the place in a matter of days. Let's face it,  our military
readiness and training techniques in all reality, sucks right now!  But then
I always look to those in power;  and when I look at the example Clinton has
set as Chief of Staff,  I wouldn't care to take orders from him either!!!

Not only that,  with a prez who sets the example as being the true blue
draft dodger,  and who while in office has been shutting down military bases
all over the country to offset his tax increases in order to make his budget
balance before he's out of office...  I know that if I was back in the
military right now,  I'd be looking for the first exit out;  and I'd run,
not walk,  to the nearest one available...   So,  unless you can recruit the
militia, or large numbers of death-wish vigilantes and mercenaries,  I doubt
seriously that you're going to find enough 'tough' good honest men and women
who want the job of going to war right now.

Great idea...  but unfortunately,  at the needed scale of war to resolve the
issues at hand,  it doesn't seem very feasible.

eagle 1

[{ The time will come when they will say...
"... Who is like unto the beast?
Who is able to make war with him?"
Revelation 13:4 - KJV }]

- Original Message -
From: "Damian B. Cooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Day of Deceit-FDR  Pearl Harbor


 -Caveat Lector-

 At 02:30 PM 12/27/99 -0500, Gavin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
  New book. Inside cover blurb. Gavin.
 
 DAY OF DECEIT
 THE TRUTH ABOUT FDR AND PEARL HARBOR
 by Robert Stinnett
 
 - - -  snip - - -

 Day of Deceit is the definitive final chapter on America's greatest
secret
 and our worst military disaster.
 

 I doubt that it is the "final chapter" by any stretch of the imagination.

 Rather, it abundantantly reconfirms the thesis that most, it not all of
the
 major wars in this century involving the United States involved the use
 of deception to engineer U.S. participation.

 World War I:The purported sinking of the ferry Sussex, later shown to
be
 false;
 the sinking of the Lusitania, later shown to have been
carrying war
 contraband.

 Also, the "Germans spearing babies on their bayonets"
hoax.  (It
 never happend, folks; it was British war propaganda.)


 World War II:  The engineered bombing of Pearl Harbor

 Korea:  ??

 Vietnam:The Gulf of Tonkin incident

 Haiti:  The "our guy is not as corrupt" hoax
 and the "we have to stop the boat people
 after we gave them the green light" hoax

 Desert Storm:   The Kuwait incubator babies massacre hoax

 Somalia War:the "chemical weapons factory" hoax

 Kosovo War: the "ethnic cleansing" hoax


 What this country needs is a good HONEST war!


 DBC

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Re: [CTRL] Let Them Eat Bush

1999-12-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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pennie hammons wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 
 Is that the same as " carpet munching, and muff diving?"
 
 Joshua2
 

 Joshua, you are such a cunning linguist!

OK. Now that you've flattered me, you're really in for it.
Try this one...

What's the difference between a circus and a whorehouse?

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Day of Deceit-FDR Pearl Harbor

1999-12-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research

 -Caveat Lector-

Eagle 1 wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 "Damian B. Cooper" wrote:
 What this country needs is a good HONEST war!

 Yeah,  I'd agree with that.  But tell me,  where are you going to get the
 true blue, flag waving, patriotic, "willing to die for country and freedom"
 military to do it...???

You dumb shmucks! You never learn do you? What this country needs, is good
honest PEACE, and keeping brain dead patriots like you locked in your
outhouses.

Semper Fi gawrsh!
Joshua2

 A military that allows "time outs" during basic
 training,  with little if any discipline,  would get their behinds kicked
 all over the place in a matter of days. Let's face it,  our military
 readiness and training techniques in all reality, sucks right now!  But then
 I always look to those in power;  and when I look at the example Clinton has
 set as Chief of Staff,  I wouldn't care to take orders from him either!!!

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Re: [CTRL] Day of Deceit-FDR Pearl Harbor

1999-12-27 Thread Eagle 1

 -Caveat Lector-

Joshua2 wrote:
 You dumb shmucks! You never learn do you? What this country needs, is
good
honest PEACE, and keeping brain dead patriots like you locked in your
outhouses.

Thanks for proving my point even further,  J2.

eagle 1

[{ "For whey they shall say, 'Peace and safety';
sudden destruction cometh upon them, as
travail upon a woman with child; and they shall
not escape." -1 Thessalonians 5:3 KJV

"...in his estate shall stand up a vile person to
whom they shall not give the honour of the
kingdom: but HE SHALL COME IN PEACEABLY,
and obtain the kingdom by flatteries [not by war]"
Daniel 11:21 KJV }]

- Original Message -
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Day of Deceit-FDR  Pearl Harbor

 Eagle 1 wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  "Damian B. Cooper" wrote:
  What this country needs is a good HONEST war!
 
  Yeah,  I'd agree with that.  But tell me,  where are you going to get
the
  true blue, flag waving, patriotic, "willing to die for country and
freedom"
  military to do it...???

 You dumb shmucks! You never learn do you? What this country needs, is good
 honest PEACE, and keeping brain dead patriots like you locked in your
 outhouses.

 Semper Fi gawrsh!
 Joshua2

  A military that allows "time outs" during basic
  training,  with little if any discipline,  would get their behinds
kicked
  all over the place in a matter of days. Let's face it,  our military
  readiness and training techniques in all reality, sucks right now!  But
then
  I always look to those in power;  and when I look at the example Clinton
has
  set as Chief of Staff,  I wouldn't care to take orders from him
either!!!

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Re: [CTRL] Let Them Eat Bush

1999-12-27 Thread pennie hammons

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pennie hammons wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  
  Is that the same as " carpet munching, and muff diving?"
  
  Joshua2
  
 
  Joshua, you are such a cunning linguist!

OK. Now that you've flattered me, you're really in for it.
Try this one...

What's the difference between a circus and a whorehouse?

Joshua2

Um, the sex is better with the Bearded Woman?


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[CTRL] Will ADS Limit Sales of Its Injectable Trackable Microchip By Being Genuinely Responsive to Concerns Expressed by Mike Adams- Or Is ADS Merely Engaging in PR Rhetoric? ADS Reponds to IAHF Questions by Denigrating Mike Adams Rather Than Directly Addressing His Concerns. ADS Should Consider the PR Implications of Their Device in Light of Growing Tide of Public Opinion Against the WTO and Corporate Control of Our Lives. (fwd)

1999-12-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

=
 Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT

  FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends
   Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day.
=

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:03:38 -0500
From: John Hammell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lynn Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Will ADS Limit Sales of Its Injectable Trackable
Microchip By Being Genuinely Responsive to Concerns Expressed by
Mike Adams- Or Is ADS Merely Engaging in PR Rhetoric? ADS Reponds
to IAHF Questions by Denigrating Mike Adams Rather Than Directly
Addressing His Concerns. ADS Should Consider the PR Implications
of Their Device in Light of Growing Tide of Public Opinion
Against the WTO and Corporate Control of Our Lives.

IAHF LIST:[ADS responds to IAHF below] Applied Digital Solutions
(ADS) has acquired the patent rights to an injectable microchip
which is powered by muscular contractions, and which is trackable
via Global Positioning System satellite technology. They've sent
out a press release, are seeking investors, and are loudly
touting the device as having a vast multibillion dollar global
market. They sneer at the notion that they might have "The Mark
of the Beast" in their hands.


Mike Adams, Editor of http://www.y2knewswire.com published an
article about ADS's device, along with 2 interviews with the
company (which you can see if you scroll down). Sharing Adam's
concern that ADS should establish an ethics board which can
interface with the public in an effort to keep the device from
being misused, I emailed Lynn Anderson of ADS and also Dick
Sullivan, their PR guy.


Anderson's response below does nothing to allay my concerns, in
fact, I am far MORE concerned than I was before because of how
she has denigrated Mike Adams, whose questions are quite fair and
deserve honest answers- not the "PR shuffle". If you share my
contention that Adam's questions deserve more than just "the PR
shuffle" please join me in expressing your views to Lynn Anderson
of ADS at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ask her to forward your message
to Dick Sullivan, who has yet to reply to me. (I just tried
calling him again, to no avail, and don't have his email
address.)


ADS would be smart if they sought a truly open dialogue with
civil libertarians,Christians, anarchists,greens and others
opposed to corporate domination of the planet and our lives. ADS
should dispense with the PR rhetoric, which seems designed merely
to "pave the way for investors." Our concerns are justified, and
talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words, wouldn't you
agree? ADS sneers at the notion that they may hold in their hands
"The Mark of the Beast", but this really is no laughing matter,
especially as coporate interests are pushing through the World
Trade Organization to force world government upon us, whether we
like it or not.


If ADS were smart, they'd take notice of the public sentiments so
clearly expressed by more than 70,000 demonstrators in Seattle
who shut down the WTO Ministerial Conference, and who make it
very clear that the people of the world will not tolerate the
intrusion of corporate control into our lives. We just don't WANT
satellites monitoring our whereabouts OR our purchases!


ADS should take a close look at this website http://Indymedia.org
and should realize that a very broad based coalition cutting
across the political spectrum has joined forces against corporate
repression and control (all of which is made far more possible
via the injectable, trackable microchip technology now owned by
ADS). Rather than act negatively towards questions posed by Mike
Adams, ADS should be greatful for this sort of information and
should encourage an open, honest dialogue with the public,
including me, and anyone on the IAHF email distribution list who
might share these concerns.




At 09:26 AM 12/27/1999 -0500, you wrote:

 Dear Mr. Hammell:
 First of all, ADS has acquired the Patent to this
 technology--it is

 not even developed yet.  We will start the development at the
 beginning of year 2000 and expect a prototype by the end of
 the year.  All serious questions and uses will be addressed
 as we go forward in the development of the device.


Judging from your website, and from your conversation with Mike
Adams, you already have some detailed plans regarding how your
implantable trackable microchip device will be used. Calling it
the "Digital Angel", in your press release you are touting it as
a device which will have a vast multibillion dollar global
market, and you are already pitching to investors. The fact that
you have acquired the technology for an injectable 

[CTRL] Bemer, Inventer of ASCII, Has Split for the Hills... Heres Why... Banks Can't Share Incompatible Data and Formats...Will Crash and Burn Soon... (fwd)

1999-12-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:28:16 -0500
From: John Hammell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bemer, Inventer of ASCII, Has Split for the Hills...
 Heres Why... Banks Can't Share Incompatible Data and
 Formats...Will Crash and Burn Soon...

IAHF LIST: Check out the following message from Bob Bemer, who
invented ASCII, and the ESCAPE key on your computer. He has moved
to a safer, less populous region due to y2k. Check out his
sobering message below. bolditalic(underlineThere ISN'T any
universally agreed upon standard for representing dates in
computers/underline... Merrill Lynch has built a FIREWALL and
is refusing to do business with anyone who doesn't enter dates
their way! Soon- we won't HAVE an interconnected banking
system!/italic/bold


How will
bolditalicunderlineYOUR/underline/italic/bold BANK
avoid being corrupted by noncompliant data when they do
international wire transfers? (bolditalicunderlineThey
won't be able to avoid being
corrupted/underline/italic/bold, the banking system will
soon crash and burn bolditalicwith your money in
it./italic/bold The lies and PR bull being bandied about by
the bolditalicBANKSTERS/italic/bold are
bolditalicOUTRAGEOUS!/italic/bold)


bolditalicunderlineSolution/underline: Call Swiss America
at 800-289-2646 and speak to Andrew Permoda or Earl Brown.

Tell them John Hammell sent you./italic/bold They are experts
and can advise you on how to protect your hard earned assets by
purchasing gold and silver. Do it
bolditalicNOW!/italic/bold bolditalicFace it,
Greenspan and your banker are crooked SHYSTERS, and the FDIC is a
VERY sick JOKE! underlineProtect/underline your hard earned
assetts! All your "money" is is some zinc oxide deposits on some
computer tape locked up in a bank vault. Your "money" is printed
out of thin air- its not backed by ANYTHING!/italic/bold
Banks are putting out a lot of PR bull in an effort to cover
their butts. Don't believe it, its
bolditalicbull/italic/bold. Bemer is not lying in his
message below...and he's the guy who invented ASCII and the
escape key on your computer...Would he have moved to the
boondocks for no good reason? Would I?



Bob Bemer on Sharing Incompatible Data and Formats

Link:

http://www.wbn.com/y2ktimebomb/Computech/Issues/bb9951




This is from Westergaard's site (Dec. 23).


* * * * * * * * * * *


The only reason to do the same as everyone else is if you're
going to exchange data containing year values with someone else.
That's a good reason to be standard. But guess what the latest
Y2K discovery is? There ISN'T any standard for representing dates
in computers that is universally agreed and used! Merrill Lynch
is setting up "firewalls"  and says it will refuse to do
computerized business with any entity not representing dates
their way. Alan Greenspan admits this is a big danger. Joel
Willemssen, U.S. Government Accounting Office [6], uncovered over
500,000 different electronic data interchanges in just the
Government's mission-critical systems. And not all of these use
anywhere near the same date form.

Link:

http://www.wbn.com/y2ktimebomb/Computech/Issues/bb9951.htm

**

IAHF:(International Advocates for Health Freedom)

PO Box 625 Floyd, Virginia,24091, USA

800-333-2553, overseas: 540-745-6534, 540-745-6535 fax,

http://www.iahf.com   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


bolditalicunderlinecolorparam,,/paramHelp
Get a Codex Oversight
Hearing/color/underlinecolorparam,,/param:
Call Beth Clay at 202-225-5074

House Government Reform and Oversight Committee- See Codex
Oversight Section of IAHF website for more info. underlineIf
You Belong to NNFA/underline- Ask Them
underlineWhy/underline They Oppose Having a Codex Oversight
Hearing, and Ask underlineWhy They Don't Enforce Article 14.3
in their Bylaws/underline: (Conflict of Interest) Ask why they
don't kick underlineWarner Lambert /underlineand the rest of
the drug cartel OUT of NNFA! Ask underlineWhy/underline they
endorse the NAS paper "underlineA Risk Assessment Model For
Establishing Upper Levels for Nutrients/underline" when it is
being used illegally by the FDA to break past the consumer
generated impasse at Codex. [See Codex Oversight Section
http://www.iahf.com]
/color/italic/bold+++


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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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   Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day.
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[CTRL] More at Stake Than Spying--The Christian Science Monitor (fwd)

1999-12-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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TUESDAY, DECEMBER 28, 1999

Headlines

THE MONITOR'S VIEW

More at Stake Than Spying

The storm of allegations regarding Chinese espionage at US
national weapons laboratories has led to needed tightening of
security at those facilities. That's the positive outcome from
the spy scandal that agitated Washington for much of the past
year.

But the Chinese espionage affair has also had some disturbing
aspects. Most of these are tied to the government's criminal case
against Wen Ho Lee, formerly a physicist with the Los Alamos
National Laboratory. Mr. Lee became a magnet for suspicion as the
spy charges reached their zenith in Congress earlier this year.

The Chinese-American scientist apparently had been under
surveillance, on and off, for years. In the 1980s he had been
suspected of giving classified information to Taiwan, where he
was born, but had been cleared of those charges. This decade,
somewhat ironically, he became the FBI's prime suspect in the
alleged transfer of nuclear-bomb secrets to the People's Republic
of China, Taiwan's adversary.

Early in December, at long last, Lee was formally charged - not
with espionage, but with mishandling classified documents. It's a
lesser charge, but could still carry a lengthy prison term. Lee
has been denied bail.

The FBI probe of the possible tranfer of nuclear secrets to China
is continuing, and of late has broadened beyond Lee and Los
Alamos.

Meanwhile, other developments:

The release of secret congressional testimony by Attorney General
Janet Reno has clarified why she kept the FBI from tapping Lee's
phone in the course of its investigation. Ms. Reno was roundly
criticized for that. It's now clear she felt the bureau was
prematurely centering its attention on Lee before eliminating other
suspects with equal access to classified material and just as much
incentive, presumably, to pass it to other countries. This throws
new light on Reno's actions, and raises new questions about the
intensefocus on Lee.

This month the accused struck back with a lawsuit against the FBI
and the Justice and Energy Departments for invasion of privacy and
false accusation. The suit, reportedly, will emphasize that
investigators pursued him even after doubts had arisen that he was,
in fact, engaged in espionage. Lee doesn't deny that he
downloaded classified material to an unclassified computer, but
says it was a common practice.

Suspicion is growing among Asian-Americans activists that Lee is
in custody primarily because of his ethnicity. They argue that the
FBI's pursuit of him was dictated by racial "profiling" - by the
assumption that people of Chinese background were the most
likely to be exploited by Communist Chinese agents.

A detailed report by Stanford University's Center for International
Security and Cooperation throws doubt on the accuracy of the
congressional report, put together by Rep. Christopher Cox (R) of
California, that largely fueled the storm over Chinese espionage and
generated furious calls to net the perpetrators. The Stanford team,
including credible experts on nuclear weaponry, charges that the
Cox report is "inflammatory" and makes some ill-supported
allegations.

In summary, the country owes two things to itself: (1) Make sure
its system for designing and producing nuclear weaponry is as
secure as possible. (2) Just as important, make sure its system
of justice, operating in the Wen Ho Lee case, is driven by
fairness and a quest for the truth, not by the need to pillory
someone in the wake of a politically uncomfortable furor over
alleged espionage.


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Re: [CTRL] Bug at hotmail

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I have had my Hotmail account for 2 years and have never had a problem with
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Hotmail has been buggy since its creation (1996?). It's notorious for
crashing. All of the Web-based e-mail services have problems, but Hotmail's
historically been about the worst, perhaps because they've been around
longer and have more experience at screwing up. And I can't say that
Hotmail
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[CTRL] sixteen steps to kill the beast!

1999-12-27 Thread BARD

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. far and wide!

NOTE:  This is an extremely important Post
and must be read by all in calmness with your
attention focused on the primary purpose of
the banking cartel, which is, and I quote,
"... to shift the inevitable losses from
the owners of the larger banks to the taxpayers."
--

A PLAN FOR ELIMINATING THE FED

To abolish the Federal Reserve System (Fed) would be quite simple.

All that would be required is an act of Congress consisting of one
sentence:
The Federal Reserve Act and all of its amendments are hereby rescinded.

But that would wipe out our monetary system overnight and create such
havoc in the economy that it would play right into the hands of the
globalists.

They would use the resulting chaos as evidence that such a move was a
mistake, and the American people would likely welcome a rescue from the
IMF/World Bank.

There are certain steps that must precede the abandonment of the Fed if
we are to have a safe passage.

The first step is to convert our present fiat money into real money.

That means we must create an entirely new money supply which is 100
percent backed by precious metal -- and we must do so within a
reasonable short period of time.

To that end, we also must establish the true value of our present fiat
money so it can be exchanged for new money on a realistic basis and
phased out of circulation.

Here is how it can be done:

1.  REPEAL THE LEGAL-TENDER LAWS.
The federal government will continue accepting Federal Reserve Notes in
the payment of taxes, but everyone else will be free to accept them,
reject them, or discountthem as they wish.

2.  FREEZE THE PRESENT SUPPLY OF FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES, except for what
will be needed in   step number eleven.

3.  DEFINE THE "REAL" DOLLAR IN TERMS OF PRECIOUS-METAL CONTENT,
preferably what is was in   the past:  371.25 grains of silver.  It could
be another weight of silver or even another metal, but the old silver
dollar is a proven winner.

4.  RESTORE FREE COINAGE AT THE U.S. MINT and issue silver "dollars" as
well as gold"pieces."
Both dollars and pieces will be defined by metal content, but only
coins with silver content can be called dollars, half-dollars,
quarter-dollars, or tenth-dollars (dimes).  At first, these coins will
be derived only from metal brought into the Mint by private parties.
They must not be drawn from the Treasury's supply which is reserved for
use in step number six.

5.  PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT WITH FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES created for
that purpose.
Creating money without backing is forbidden by the Constitution;
however, when no one is forced by law too accept Federal Reserve Notes
as legal tender, they will no longer be the official money of the United
States.  They will be merely a kind of government script which no one is
required to accept.  Their utility will be determined by their
usefulness in payment of taxes and by the public's anticipation of
having them exchanged for real money at a later date.  The creation of
Federal Reserve Notes, with the understanding that they are not the
official money of the United States, would therefore not be a violation
of the Constitution.  In any event, the deed is already done.  The
decision to redeem government bonds with Federal Reserve Notes is not
ours.  Congress decided that long ago, and the course was set at the
instant those bonds were issued.  We are merely playing out the hand.
The money 'will' be created for that purpose.  Our only choice is
'when':  now or later.  If we allow the bonds to stand, the national
debt will be repudiated by inflation.  The value of the original dollars
will gradually be reduced to zero while only the interest remains.
Everyone's purchasing power will be destroyed, and the nation will die.
But if we want 'not' to repudiate the national debt and decide to pay it
off 'now', we will be released from the burden of interest payments and,
at the same time, prepare the way for a sound monetary system.

6.  PLEDGE THE GOVERNMENT'S HOARD OF GOLD AND SILVER (except the
military stockpile) to be used as backing for all the Federal Reserve
Notes in circulation.  The denationalization of these assets is long
overdue.

7.  DETERMINE THE WEIGHT OF ALL THE GOLD AND SILVER owned by the U.S.
government and then calculate the total value of that supply in terms of
real (silver) dollars.

8.  DETERMINE THE NUMBER OF ALL THE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES in circulation
and then calculate the real-dollar value of each on by dividing the
value of the precious metals by the number of Notes.

10. RETIRE ALL FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES FROM CIRCULATION by offering to
exchange them for dollars at the calculated ratio.  There will be enough
gold or silver to redeem every Federal Reserve Note in circulation.

11. CONVERT ALL CONTRACTS BASED ON FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES TO DOLLARS
using the same exchange ratio.

12. ISSUE SILVER