Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[Ram Ramesh]

On 4/25/22 16:45, Dan Ritter wrote:

Ram Ramesh wrote:

    My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs

What kind of "sick"? Not repairable?


It randomly freezes and had to be hard rebooted.  Tried replacing power
supply and RAM and disk (all other are part of the NUC box), but that did
not work. Ran various diagnostics that I can get hold of and no issue. If I
do not use it/idle, it will not freeze for days.

Since you've been inside the box, I expect you cleaned all the
dust out -- but is there any chance that the CPU fan has frozen
or is otherwise impeded?

This really sounds like an overheating problem.

-dsr-
Earlier, I had not opened enuf to inspect heat sinks/fan. Today I did 
that and it kind of looked dirty. I cleaned and made sure fan spun 
readily. I did not take apart the heatsink to check the thermal paste. 
That looked too risky.  Similarly, I did not check if the fan actually 
runs visually. There is some noise and mild airflow when I turn on. So, 
it should be working.


After all this cleaning, the situation is the same. It dies randomly if 
I do something (like pause on some video) Only hard boot will work. So, 
not sure what kind of sickness it has. So, may be it is telling me to 
replace. Since syslog has nothing, I assume it is not something kernel 
can catch.


Regards
Ramesh

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[David Christensen]

On 4/25/22 18:57, Felix Miata wrote:

Tom Browder composed on 2022-04-25 18:30 (UTC-0400):


I'm now 78 and don't do serious building any more--I stand a good chance of
frying a CPU! And I wouldn't trust any of my friends, either ;-D


IMO, almost everyone who can admin a server can build one. It's a lot simpler 
than
it was 30-40 years ago, a matter of assembling a modest number of parts (in 
rough
order for a tower form factor):

1: open the new case & lie on side



... on a cloth on a table, under good lighting.


Use laptop and open new system administration log file in editor.  Put 
on reading glasses.  Attach anti-static wrist strap.




2: pop I/O shield into place
3: lay motherboard into place
4: insert screws to hold motherboard to case (4-12 count)
5: position & affix power supply with 4 screws
6: attach CPU & main power cables to motherboard
7: Drop CPU into socket (thermal paste substitute has already been applied to 
new
ones), & clamp it down.
8: install CPU cooler
9: install RAM
10: drop NVME(s) into socket(s) & insert 1 screw (each)



I prefer to build the motherboard, processor, heat sink, fan, memory 
modules, M.2/ NVMe drive(s), etc., into an assembly, and then install 
the assembly into the case.




11: affix any additional internal storage devices (& optionally RAID controller)
12: position & attach the rest of the power & control cables
13: (optional) add discrete GPU
14: (optional) add more fan(s)



I do fans, drive racks, case modifications, etc., after step #1, above.



Optionally, CPU, RAM & NVME(s), & most CPU cooler types, can be installed to
motherboard before laying it into case. 



+1



Often times the CPU power cable can be
difficult to install before the CPU cooler, or the PS itself.



Water cooling, air ducts, etc..



From here on, it's like a store-bought PC with cover off and no operating 
system.
Attach keyboard, rodent, screen, installation media, & power it up.



The Fractal Design Define R5 manual has good build instructions (and 
shows the product design/ engineering thinking that went into this chassis):


https://www.fractal-design.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Define-R5-manual.pdf


David

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[Felix Miata]

Tom Browder composed on 2022-04-25 18:30 (UTC-0400):

> I'm now 78 and don't do serious building any more--I stand a good chance of
> frying a CPU! And I wouldn't trust any of my friends, either ;-D

IMO, almost everyone who can admin a server can build one. It's a lot simpler 
than
it was 30-40 years ago, a matter of assembling a modest number of parts (in 
rough
order for a tower form factor):

1: open the new case & lie on side
2: pop I/O shield into place
3: lay motherboard into place
4: insert screws to hold motherboard to case (4-12 count)
5: position & affix power supply with 4 screws
6: attach CPU & main power cables to motherboard
7: Drop CPU into socket (thermal paste substitute has already been applied to 
new
ones), & clamp it down.
8: install CPU cooler
9: install RAM
10: drop NVME(s) into socket(s) & insert 1 screw (each)
11: affix any additional internal storage devices (& optionally RAID controller)
12: position & attach the rest of the power & control cables
13: (optional) add discrete GPU
14: (optional) add more fan(s)

Optionally, CPU, RAM & NVME(s), & most CPU cooler types, can be installed to
motherboard before laying it into case. Often times the CPU power cable can be
difficult to install before the CPU cooler, or the PS itself.

>From here on, it's like a store-bought PC with cover off and no operating 
>system.
Attach keyboard, rodent, screen, installation media, & power it up.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[David Christensen]

On 4/25/22 15:30, Tom Browder wrote:

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:07 Andrew M.A. Cater  wrote:


On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:25:46AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote:

I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my
remote ones.



And to all others, thanks for your advice.

I'm now 78 and don't do serious building any more--I stand a good chance of
frying a CPU! And I wouldn't trust any of my friends, either ;-D



A local computer shop, computer technician, and/or hobbyist might be 
able to build a custom computer for you using the parts you specify 
and/or furnish.



Alternatively, you might be able to find a vendor  who can build and 
ship it to you:


https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=custom%20pc%20build%20ship


David

Re: email lacks sender address

[황병희]

Dear Greg,

Greg Wooledge  writes:

> (... thanks ...)
> unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp
> [...]
> Description-en: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub
>  A secure, effective and simple way of getting mail off a system to your
>  mail hub. It contains no suid-binaries or other dangerous things - no mail
>  spool to poke around in, and no daemons running in the background. Mail is
>  simply forwarded to the configured mailhost. Extremely easy configuration.
>
> The entire point of this package is that it's meant to be used on a
> "dumb client" which does not wish to have its own outgoing mail queue.
> Instead, it forwards all of your mail to your "smart host" -- the MTA
> that has been set up for your organization's dumb clients to use.
>
> So, the single piece of information you need in order to use ssmtp is
> the hostname of your smart host.  Also known as your mail relay.  Or many
> other names.  It's where you want your outgoing mail to be handled.
>

Thanks for your time and your life!

Really i love sSMTP so much!!!

Thanks again ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: ATX power supply for single-socket server/ workstation

[Felix Miata]

David Christensen composed on 2022-04-25 13:47 (UTC-0700):

> Any recommendations for an ATX power supply for a single-socket server/ 
> workstation?  Cabling should include 24-pin motherboard connector, 8-pin 
> CPU connector, 6-pin video card connector, several SATA power 
> connectors, and a few 4-pin drive connectors.  The PSU must reliably 
> detect AC supply and/or computer load problems, turn itself off when 
> they are detected, and survive A/B troubleshooting under adverse 
> conditions with faulty components?

This is a record of my newest, starting with my first 80+ model, and not 
including
any that came with any PC acquisition:
runs 24/7  DateFrom $Cost  Brand  Model  Watts
no   2007-11 CompGeeks  26.99 Antec Earthwatts EA380  380
no   2007-11 Newegg 24.99 Antec Earthwatts EA380  380
no   2008-07 Newegg 29.99 Antec Earthwatts EA430  430
returned 2008-09 Newegg 0 Antec Earthwatts EA500  500
no   2009-01 Newegg 39.99 Antec Earthwatts EA430  430
no   2012-09 Newegg 44.99 Rosewill  Green RG430-S12   430
yes  2013-12 Newegg 34.99 EVGA  100-W1-0430-KR W  430
no   2014-08 Newegg 39.99 Corsair   CX430 430
no   2015-11 Newegg 39.99 EVGA  100-B1-0500-KR500
yes  2017-02 Newegg 31.98 EVGA  100-B1-0450-K1450
no   2017-12 Newegg 39.99 Cooler Master MWE 500   500
no   2019-02 Newegg 38.57 Antec VP500 Plus500
spare2020-01 Bob0 Corsair   TX750 750
no   2020-03 Newegg 42.98 EVGA  450 BR 100-BR-04  450
no   2020-09 Newegg 44.99 Thermaltake   Smart Series  430
no   2021-08 Newegg 32.09 EVGA  500 BA 100-BA-05  500
no   2021-09 thrft stor 20.33 Raidmax   RX-300300
no   2022-02 Newegg 32.09 EVGA  500 W3 100-W3-05  500

All are used with single CPU motherboards, roughly half with IGP video, none 
with
discrete GPUs that take 2 slots or require separate power connection, and only a
very few GPUs with active cooling. Maximum HDD/SSD count is 3 per, but most have
only 1. Thus, my PCs' power requirements are relatively modest. Maximum CPU core
count per PC is 6. Max CPU TDP is 125W, in one only (running on a 430W). All the
rest are 85W TDP or less.

Nearly all those I bought before 80+ eventually required recapping within 5 
years
of age, or warranty replacement. The EA500 was returned because it always shut 
the
PC down during UPS transition from 120V to battery. 2 of the other Earthwatts 
also
needed recapping.

AFAICT, I've never overloaded a PS that wasn't itself failing.

Since dual 12V rails became a thing, I've always avoided such models - KISS.

I buy on sale rather than immediate need. So, my cost has typically been in the
$20-$30 discount (or rebate) off regular price range.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

Re: OFF TOPIC - Problemas com mysql

[Mauricio Neto]

Helio boa tarde.

Achei interessante seu "chute" mas veja se estou com o raciocino errado:

No /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf

/[mysqld]//
//pid-file    = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid//
//*socket  = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock*//
//datadir = /dbase/mysql//
//log-error   = /var/log/mysql/error.log/

processos mysql:

/# netstat -ln | grep mysql
unix  2  [ ACC ] STREAM OUVINDO   18942 
/var/run/mysqld/mysqlx.sock
unix  2  [ ACC ] STREAM OUVINDO   18945 
/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock/


/# ps -ef |grep mysql//
//mysql   2812   1  0 17:04 ?    00:00:19 /usr/sbin/mysqld//
//root    3332    2541  0 18:15 pts/0    00:00:00 grep mysql/

O que me leva a crer que estou com apenas um processo mysql em execução 
e usando sockets.


mais isso me deixou com uma duvida:

/# netstat -tl | grep mys
tcp6   0  0 [::]:mysql [::]:*  OUÇA/

Obrigado

Mauricio Neto


Em 24/04/2022 11:24, Helio Loureiro escreveu:

Quando você conecta com o client, ele usa o arquivo de socket pra isso.

Eu chuto que o problema é que vc tem dois mysqld rodando.  Uma via TCP 
que parece estar certo, mas via socket entra no errado que parece ser 
um banco zerado (possivelmente a configuração default do MySQL).


./helio

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 16:05 Mauricio Neto  wrote:

Gustavo, bom dia e obrigado pelo retorno

É pratica minha  criar um filesystem separado para o database.
Então logo após a instalação do mysql, antes da instalação de
qualquer aplicativo que vá utilizar o banco, eu para o processo ,
copio os arquivos para o filesystem que defini para o database,
aplico as permissões necessárias, modifico o config do mysql e
reinicio o serviço.

O que acho muito estranho é que o Moodle e o Bacula estavam
funcionando perfeitamente. Moodle já com tema configurado e um
cursos disponível e o Bacula com backup full criado e testes de
recuperação que sempre efetuo. O problema apareceu em algum
momento após perfeito funcionamento das duas ferramentas
instaladas e testadas.

Apenas para confirmar, veja la nas evidencias que uso um  ls
/dbase/mysql para mostrar a estrutura do mysql onde aparece os
bancos moodle e bacula e no arquivo de configuração do mysql tenho
a diretriz datadir = /dbase/mysql.
O Mysql inicia normalmente via systemctl start sem qualquer aviso
de erro log, com um arquivo de warning sobre usar o padrão de
senhas antigo. Consigo acessar normalmente o mysql (estranhamente
com root sem senha), o que não seria possível se  houvesse
divergência entre a localização do banco e a configuração no arquivo.

Atenciosamente
Mauricio Neto



Em 23/04/2022 01:52, Gustavo Villela Goulart escreveu:

Opá Mauricio, boa noite!

Vc mexeu na conf do mysql?

Por default o path do datadir é: /var/lib/mysql
Seu datadir esta assim: /dbase/mysql

Se vc alterou essa configuração na mão, ou as aplicações que vc
esta usando fizeram essa alteração, é o que esta causando o problema.
Para vc alterar o datadir do mysql, faça assim:
   - Pare o mysql
   - Copie todos os arquivos de /var/lib/mysql para o novo diretório
   - Altere o path  datadir        = /dbase/mysql
  - Inicie o mysql

Se vc não fez assim e só copiou os datafiles do bacula e da outra
aplicação, não vai funcionar. Se copiou com o banco
funcionando(mysql startado), provavelmente corrompeu os arquivos.

Espero ter ajudado.

Em sex., 22 de abr. de 2022 às 19:25, Mauricio Neto
 escreveu:

Amigo boa tarde.

Desculpe o off topic já que se trata de um problema de mysql
e não Debian mas como nesta comunidade temos conhecedores de
tudo relato uma situação muito estranha na esperança que
algum dos amigos já tenham visto algo parecido, ou posam
indicar um forum mais apropriado...

Instalei o mysql 8.0, Apache2, PHP7.4, o Moodle (EAD) e o
Bacula backup. tudo funcionando perfeitamente durante alguns
dias e sem que ocorresse qualquer evento estranho tenho o
seguinte cenário:

As aplicações não encontram os databases.

O  mysql -u root passa a conectar sem senha ou usando a opção
-p aceita qualquer besteira que eu digite como senha.
Originalmente criado com senha como sempre o faço e situação
verificada quando esquecia ou errava  a digitação da senha :-)

No repositório do mysql   (/dbase/mysql) existi os banco de
dados moodle e bacula como pode ser visto com o ls mas o
comando mysql show databases não mostra os bancos.

O comando select user   não mostra os usuários moodle e
bacula criados anteriormente para as respectivas bases de
dados e o não aparece mais nenhum hash de senha para o root.
Efetuei um teste definindo uma nova senha para o root com o
comando ALTER  conforme 

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[Tom Browder]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:07 Andrew M.A. Cater  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:25:46AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote:
> > I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my
> > remote ones.

...

The HP Microserver is the same sort of beast: HPE Proliant Microserver
> Gen 10 Plus is about the size of a bookshelf speaker by the looks.
>
> HPE's own drives are relatively expensive. This is effectively a fit and
> forget solution, I think. Drives aren't hot swap but if you're going to use
> SSD anyway, that doesn't matter.
>
> The ILO card is a little bit more.


Thanks, Andy.

And to all others, thanks for your advice.

I'm now 78 and don't do serious building any more--I stand a good chance of
frying a CPU! And I wouldn't trust any of my friends, either ;-D

Best,

-Tom

Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[Dan Ritter]

Ram Ramesh wrote: 
> > >    My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs
> > 
> > What kind of "sick"? Not repairable?
> > 
> It randomly freezes and had to be hard rebooted.  Tried replacing power
> supply and RAM and disk (all other are part of the NUC box), but that did
> not work. Ran various diagnostics that I can get hold of and no issue. If I
> do not use it/idle, it will not freeze for days.

Since you've been inside the box, I expect you cleaned all the
dust out -- but is there any chance that the CPU fan has frozen
or is otherwise impeded?

This really sounds like an overheating problem.

-dsr-

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

[David Christensen]

On 4/25/22 07:18, Charles Curley wrote:

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700
David Christensen  wrote:


So, RAID 5 HDD's are sda, sdc, and sdd, and optical is sdb?


Optical is sr0. 



Interesting.  (Must be the SATA controller expansion card?)


sda is an SSD with all the system, /home, etc. 



Good.


I would run a long SMART test on it now.



md0 is
mounted at /crc.



Okay.



You do have a backup of your Debian system configuration files and
your data, right?


Lots of them.
https://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/backups-on-linux/



Good.


On 4/25/22 08:33, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:47:50 -0700
> David Christensen  wrote:
>
>> I will assume all three HDD's are the same make and model, per
>> smartctl(8) report below.
>
> Nope. Two WD Reds, as the report indicates, but not bought at the same
> time so likely to be different in detail. One Seagate Ironwolf.


Okay.


 How is the motherboard connected to the HDD's?

> Debian and finnix see things differently. On both. sdc and sdd are part
> of the RAID array. On Debian, sda is the system drive: /, /home, /etc,
> swap, /boot, etc.. sdb is part of the RAID array. Finnix swaps those
> two.


Okay.


Rather than a Live Linux distribution for troubleshooting, I install 
Debian onto a USB flash drive (SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 16 GB).   I 
keep it updated/ upgraded, and install whatever tools I want.  You might 
want to make one that matches your Debian instance -- that should 
eliminate the device enumeration differences.



>> SATA cables -- Color?  Locking or non-locking connectors?Came
>> with motherboard or aftermarket?  If the latter, make and model?
>
> All black, two red. The black ones came with the computer. The red ones
> are aftermarket, Alchemy SATA3 30 cm. BFA-MSC-SATA330RK-RP. All lock.


https://www.frozencpu.com/products/14060/cab-572/Bitfenix_Alchemy_Multisleeve_SATA_30_Cable_-_30cm_-_Red_BFA-MSC-SATA330RK-RP.html


Those Alchemy SATA cables look good.  Assuming you like them, I would 
replace the factory cables with new Alchemy cables.



>> Please run long tests now on all three drives.  Save all of the
>> reports. Post the report(s) for any drive(s) with SMART failures
>> and/or dmesg(1) errors.
>
> Long tests run about 10 hours. I did one overnight on sdd, and it
> reported no errors. No dmesg errors sine the ones I reported in the
> original email.


I launch SMART tests on all of the drives at the same time.  The 
microcontroller in each drive runs the test for that drive 
independently, so it is okay to run all the tests concurrently.



> smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.7.0-2-amd64] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, 
www.smartmontools.org

>
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Model Family: Western Digital Red
> Device Model: WDC WD40EFRX-68N32N0
> Serial Number:WD-
> LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2bda92107
> Firmware Version: 82.00A82
> User Capacity:4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB]
> Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
> Rotation Rate:5400 rpm
> Form Factor:  3.5 inches
> Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
> ATA Version is:   ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5
> SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
> Local Time is:Mon Apr 25 15:02:26 2022 UTC
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
>
> General SMART Values:
> Offline data collection status:  (0x82)Offline data collection activity
>was completed without error.
>Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
> Self-test execution status:  (   0)	The previous self-test 
routine completed

>without error or no self-test has ever
>been run.
> Total time to complete Offline
> data collection:   (43680) seconds.
> Offline data collection
> capabilities:   (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
>Auto Offline data collection on/off 
support.
>Suspend Offline collection upon new
>command.
>Offline surface scan supported.
>Self-test supported.
>Conveyance Self-test supported.
>Selective Self-test supported.
> SMART capabilities:(0x0003)Saves SMART data before entering
>power-saving mode.
>Supports SMART auto save timer.
> Error logging capability:(0x01)Error logging supported.
>General Purpose Logging 

Re: ATX power supply for single-socket server/ workstation

[Dan Ritter]

David Christensen wrote: 
> On 4/25/22 11:24, Dan Ritter wrote:
> 
> > There's a lot to be said for using $60 power supplies instead of
> > $200 power supplies.
> 
> I am starting to worry that $60 PSU's are good for one thing -- destroying
> themselves and everything else in the computer!
> 
> 
> Any recommendations for an ATX power supply for a single-socket server/
> workstation?  Cabling should include 24-pin motherboard connector, 8-pin CPU
> connector, 6-pin video card connector, several SATA power connectors, and a
> few 4-pin drive connectors.  The PSU must reliably detect AC supply and/or
> computer load problems, turn itself off when they are detected, and survive
> A/B troubleshooting under adverse conditions with faulty components?


I generally find:

Seasonic
EVGA
Corsair

to make reliable power supplies. I can't speak to AC supply
problems, because I always put any computer I care about
behind a UPS.

The Seasonic S12III series has several units in the $50-75 range
according to required power.

-dsr-

Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[Ram Ramesh]

>    My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs 


What kind of "sick"? Not repairable?

It randomly freezes and had to be hard rebooted.  Tried replacing power 
supply and RAM and disk (all other are part of the NUC box), but that 
did not work. Ran various diagnostics that I can get hold of and no 
issue. If I do not use it/idle, it will not freeze for days.


Regards
Ramesh

Re: Cirtuitos eletrônicos

[Leonardo S. S. da Rocha]

Valeu galera, vou testar eles. Obrigado.

Leonardo Rocha.

Em seg., 25 de abr. de 2022 às 10:47, Lucas Castro
 escreveu:
>
> Há alguns anos utilizei o qucs,
>
> mas nos repositório do debian tem simulIDE.
>
>
> On 4/24/22 2:32 PM, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha wrote:
> > Pessoal, boa tarde!
> >
> > estou estudando arquitetura de computadores. Preciso encontrar uma
> > alternativa a softwares como Circuit Maker[1], software sugerido pelo
> > professor da disciplina só que é pra Windows. Alguém conhece alguma
> > alternativa pra Linux para indicar?
> >
> > Grato,
> >
> > Leonardo Rocha
> >
> > [1] - 
> > https://docente.ifrn.edu.br/leonardoteixeira/links/instalador-do-circuitmaker-student/view
> >
>

Re: ATX power supply for single-socket server/ workstation

[local10]

Apr 25, 2022, 20:47 by dpchr...@holgerdanske.com:

> I am starting to worry that $60 PSU's are good for one thing -- destroying 
> themselves and everything else in the computer!
>


Really? I've used a number of cheap Chinese 300-400W power supplies in the $20 
range and they all worked for years without any issues. 

Regards,

ATX power supply for single-socket server/ workstation

[David Christensen]

On 4/25/22 11:24, Dan Ritter wrote:

> There's a lot to be said for using $60 power supplies instead of
> $200 power supplies.

I am starting to worry that $60 PSU's are good for one thing -- 
destroying themselves and everything else in the computer!



Any recommendations for an ATX power supply for a single-socket server/ 
workstation?  Cabling should include 24-pin motherboard connector, 8-pin 
CPU connector, 6-pin video card connector, several SATA power 
connectors, and a few 4-pin drive connectors.  The PSU must reliably 
detect AC supply and/or computer load problems, turn itself off when 
they are detected, and survive A/B troubleshooting under adverse 
conditions with faulty components?



David

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[David Christensen]

On 4/25/22 08:25, Tom Browder wrote:

I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my
remote ones. I am looking at Dell's site and an almost-empty chassis with a
low-end Intel, 1 TB SATA, and 8 Gb ECC  RAM is in the $800 ball park. It
looks very upgradeable.

Anyone have any suggestions on whether to buy or not? I would add at least
two 1 Tb SSD from Crucial to it.



I bought a COTS server for SOHO storage about 3.5 years ago.  Instead of 
new, I bought a ~3 month used Dell PowerEdge T30 on Craig's List for 
$375 with Xeon E3-1225 v5, 8 GB memory module, 1 TB 3.5" SATA desktop 
HDD, and DVD+-RW slim drive.  I removed the 1 TB HDD and added a used 
matching 8 GB ECC module, new PCI slot 2.5" SATA drive rack, used 2.5" 
SATA 60 GB enterprise desktop SSD (OS), PCIe x1 dual SATA 6 Gbps HBA, 
and four new previous model 3.5" SATA 3 TB  enterprise storage HDD's 
(data).  As a storage server, it can easily saturate the Gigabit 
connection.  The mini-tower size is nice.  The fans are quiet.  Cooling 
is marginal.  The HDD's are attached directly to the drive cages, so the 
chassis acts as a sounding board and drive access noise is distracting 
in the living room.  The price was around $800.  There is room for two 
more 8 GB memory modules and a PCIe NVMe drive.



I recently built a backup storage server based on the Fractal Design 
Define R5 chassis:


https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-r5/black/

The chassis supports ATX, Micro ATX, and Mini ITX motherboards, and ATX 
PSU's.  It has two internal 2.5" drive bays, eight internal 3.5" drive 
bays (with vibration isolation grommets), and two external 5.25" drive 
bays.  The chassis is lined with sound absorbing material.  It comes 
with two quiet 140 mm fans and a fan speed controller (up to three 
fans).  The internal drive bays are reconfigurable.  There are 
removable/ reconfigurable panels for radiators and more fans.  I 
installed a used Intel S1200V3RPL motherboard, used Intel Xeon E3-1225 
v3 processor, used heatsink, used CPU fan, four used 4 GB ECC memory 
modules, used desktop 450 W PSU, used dual 2.5" SATA drive rack, used 
2.5" SATA 60 GB enterprise desktop SSD, new 3.5" SATA drive rack, new 
3.5" 6 TB enterprise HDD (backups), new 8 port SATA 6 Gbps HBA, and four 
new previous model 3.5" SATA 3 TB  enterprise storage HDD's.  It can 
easily saturate one Gigabit port; I have yet to try bonding the two 
Gigabit ports.  The mid-tower size is as expected.  Cooling is 
excellent.  The system is very quiet in the bedroom.  There are two 2.5" 
and four 3.5" free internal drive bays.  The price was around $900. 
There is room for two 2.5" drives and four 3.5" drives.



David

exim4 and oAuth

[mike . junk . 46]

I recently switch ISPs to Frontier.com and find that my emails aren't
going out due to Frontier's insistence on using oAuth which as far as
I can tell is beyond Exim4's capabilities.
Feel free to contradict me if you know otherwise.
I've seen one note suggesting that Mutt can do oAuth but find
nothing in the docs confirming this nor how to make it so.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike

Re: test

[Romulus 1er]

Test ok

Le lun. 25 avr. 2022 à 19:27,  a écrit :

> On Monday 25 April 2022 17:56:36 Rémi Demarthe wrote:
> > Le lundi 25 avril 2022 à 11:13 +0200, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > > test ml
>
> > Chez moi sur evolution le message est considéré comme spam.
> > Dans les sources :
> > X-Spam-Flag: yes
> > X-Spam-Level: ***
> > X-GND-Spam-Score: 290
> > X-GND-Status: SPAM
> > En espérant que cela puisse aider.
>
> Oui, ça m'aide, merci.
>
> Déjà, je n'ai pas reçu mon propre message depuis la liste,
> alors que c'est un nouveau mail créé ce matin...
> Donc à peine créé il est déjà bloqué.
>
> Quel serveur de mails indique que mon mail est un spam ?
>
> J'utilise smtp.bbox.fr, immédiatement je reçois ce message :
> "Le serveur a répondu : «5.7.1 Rejected for policy reason»
> Avec d'autres smtp, le destinataire ne reçoit rien,
> sinon une déclaration de spam.
> Bref, ça devient inquétiant, je ne sais quoi faire.
> Bonne soirée
>
>

Re: email lacks sender address

[Haines Brown]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 05:52:48PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 11:39:01 -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> 
> > 2022-04-24 10:44:02 1nidSz-00068k-QP rejected from <> U=Debian-exim: 
> > message to>
> > Envelope-from: <>
> > Envelope-to: 
> > 
> > I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the
> > sender.
> 
> What do have in /etc/mailname?  

lenin.histomat.net

 

[HS] Vente de matériel

[jerome moliere]

Bonjour à tous,
désolé du dérangement mais suite à la fermeture de ma société je me sépare
de diverses machines , plutôt que de les vendre à des quidams sur le bon
coin je préfererais faire plaisir à des barbus linuxiens...

Voilà donc les machines  :
- Thinkpad X230 8Go RAM SSD 256Go : 150 € discutables avec  dock et chargeur
- Thinkpad T420 8Go RAM SSD 256 Go : 100€
ou 200€ pour les deux ...

- Thinkpad T450s 24Go RAM SSD 2To : 600€
- System 76 lemur pro 2 : RAM  40 Go Disks: SSD  3To 1200€ (carte wifi HS
Intel AX201 mais cela se trouve sur le Net)

N'hésitez pas à me contacter 
à votre dispo

PS:
je suis old school mais je préfère remettre les machines en mains propres
je peux  le faire en région de Bordeaux , sur Paris ou Lille à l'occasion
d'un déplacement (1ere semaine de Mai par exemple)

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[Joel Roth]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:27:24AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:07:28 +
> "Andrew M.A. Cater"  wrote:
> 
> > Alternatively, it might be worth looking at something small and silent
> > from a US? equivalent of QuietPC / Overclockers UK.
> 
> I've had good results from silentpc.com, in Washington state.

And on the cheaper side, not necessarily "commercial grade", is this
$600 fanless PC.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0912ZKKYM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> -- 
> Does anybody read signatures any more?
> 
> https://charlescurley.com
> https://charlescurley.com/blog/
> 

-- 
Joel Roth

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[Dan Ritter]

Tom Browder wrote: 
> I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my
> remote ones. I am looking at Dell's site and an almost-empty chassis with a
> low-end Intel, 1 TB SATA, and 8 Gb ECC  RAM is in the $800 ball park. It
> looks very upgradeable.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions on whether to buy or not? I would add at least
> two 1 Tb SSD from Crucial to it.


My experience with Dell and HP is that they produce high quality
machines with an excessive number of proprietary parts, that
will bite you as a home user.

If you have sufficient manual dexterity or a knowledgeable
friend, I would highly recommend building your own server.

If you need rackmount, rackmount cases are available. If you
don't, sturdy quiet large-desktop cases are much cheaper.
There's a lot to be said for using $60 power supplies instead of
$200 power supplies.

For $800, I put together this for you:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rrF2mr

which gets you a nice Ryzen 5600G (6 cores, 12 threads), 32GB of
RAM, a 1 TB NVMe SSD, and a good, quiet case. And every single
thing in it is replaceable or upgradeable with off-the-shelf components.

-dsr-

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 07:18:48PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 17:24:29 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello Sophie,
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Good afternoon.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank You.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We do backup every evening.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and 
> > > > > > burn on
> > > > > > CD?
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > We still don't know what the actual computer you use is :(
> > > > 
> > > > Unless it is a (very old) 32 bit only machine, I would recommend
> > > > 
> > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> > > > 
> > > > This is unofficial only because it contains non-free firmware. The 
> > > > firmware
> > > > may be necessary for your machine to boot and work well: it will almost
> > > > certainly be required if you are installing over a WiFi connection.
> > > 
> > > I am aware that this ISO has non-free packages for a wireless
> > > connection and that any needed will be used and installed by
> > > d-i. However, what about micorode packages, firmware-intel-sound,
> > > bluez-firmwarem and dahdi-firmware? At which stage(s) of an
> > > installation does d-i become aware of them?
> > > 
> > 
> > Some of these are recognised at inital boot: if unsure, they can be
> > added. For myself, I normally install the metapackages 
> > firmware-linux-nonfree
> > and firmware-misc-nonfree which solve the problem. As the discussion 
> > elsewhere
> > on Debian mailing lists is showing, it is really very difficult indeed to 
> > do without all firmware.
> 
> The need for a non-free WiFi firmware is recognised and the user is
> given the choice to install it or not. I have never come across d-i
> offering to install other non-free packages, which is what one would
> expect. Are you sure they are even considered?
> 

I'm fairly sure that microcode may get installed. As I say, I get round
the problem by installing the two metapackages which pull in everything
needed.

> The "discussion elsewhere" seems to be specifically about firmware
> and looks to be going somewhere. About time!
> 
>

As someone who also works with the images team: I have the highest regard
for the opinions of Steve McIntyre and Andy Simpkins with whom I work
whenever we do release testing.

All the best, as ever,

Andy Cater 

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

[Brian]

On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 17:24:29 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello Sophie,
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Good afternoon.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank You.
> > > > > 
> > > > > We do backup every evening.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and 
> > > > > burn on
> > > > > CD?
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > We still don't know what the actual computer you use is :(
> > > 
> > > Unless it is a (very old) 32 bit only machine, I would recommend
> > > 
> > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> > > 
> > > This is unofficial only because it contains non-free firmware. The 
> > > firmware
> > > may be necessary for your machine to boot and work well: it will almost
> > > certainly be required if you are installing over a WiFi connection.
> > 
> > I am aware that this ISO has non-free packages for a wireless
> > connection and that any needed will be used and installed by
> > d-i. However, what about micorode packages, firmware-intel-sound,
> > bluez-firmwarem and dahdi-firmware? At which stage(s) of an
> > installation does d-i become aware of them?
> > 
> 
> Some of these are recognised at inital boot: if unsure, they can be
> added. For myself, I normally install the metapackages firmware-linux-nonfree
> and firmware-misc-nonfree which solve the problem. As the discussion elsewhere
> on Debian mailing lists is showing, it is really very difficult indeed to 
> do without all firmware.

The need for a non-free WiFi firmware is recognised and the user is
given the choice to install it or not. I have never come across d-i
offering to install other non-free packages, which is what one would
expect. Are you sure they are even considered?

The "discussion elsewhere" seems to be specifically about firmware
and looks to be going somewhere. About time!

-- 
Brian.

Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[Ram Ramesh]

Hi Ramesh,

Debian 11 was released almost 1 year ago. For new hardware you will need
Debian testing. For Debian 11 (current stable) you'll need second hand
hardware.

Kind regards
Georgi

Gorgi,

  Are you guessing or know this for a fact? What is second hand 
hardware? 11th gen or 10th gen intel?


  Sorry I am asking more questions. Thanks for your time. Please answer 
if you can.


Regards
Ramesh

Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[Felix Miata]

R. Ramesh composed on 2022-04-25 10:46 (UTC-0500):

>    My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs 

What kind of "sick"? Not repairable?

> replacement. I am interested in building one based on core i3-12100 cpu. 
> It has intel UHD 730 per my quick check. Is this CPU/GPU combo fully 
> supported in debian 11/bullseye? I am looking to run the current setup 
> as is on new hardware (simply swap the disk from NUC to new build)

The i3-12100 was released Q1'22, roughly 2 months ago. You might need a backport
kernel, 5.16 or 5.17, to be able to use it in Bullseye. However, UHD 730 became
available a year earlier, so should be supported by Bullseye's own kernel.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[Ram Ramesh]

Do you _really_ need to swap the current disk? If not: put a new disk into
new hardware and you only have to copy data over. Ideally NVME or something
fast.

You may find some use for the old NUC: the only reason I say this particularly
is because you installed with BIOS boot and changing that may be as much
trouble as a new install.

mythtv - debian-multimedia - yours to sort out, I think, but again, you
may find it easier to have a spare machine that (sort of) works while you
debug the new NUC

Hope this helps - with every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater


Andy,

  My question is about compatibility of running debian bullseye on 
latest hardware. When I tried 10th gen core-i3 with buster,  xorg did 
not work as it needed Linux 5.xx over the default 4.x on buster (at that 
time). I want to know if such a thing exists with 12th gen CPU.


  Another question is with legacy boot. I did think about swapping disk 
out. Suppose I fresh install UEFI bullseye, can I simply add a new 
partition and copy over old install and update-grub from fresh install 
to add the old system to menu? Will it boot old copy as is or do I have 
to convert that in to full UEFI meaning change grub_pc to grub_efi in 
the old install?


  I could start with copy of old system with new/fresh UEFI install as 
that will pick up the old system, if such a cross combo will work.


Regards
Ramesh

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[Charles Curley]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:07:28 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater"  wrote:

> Alternatively, it might be worth looking at something small and silent
> from a US? equivalent of QuietPC / Overclockers UK.

I've had good results from silentpc.com, in Washington state.

-- 
Does anybody read signatures any more?

https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: test

[awache322]

On Monday 25 April 2022 17:56:36 Rémi Demarthe wrote:
> Le lundi 25 avril 2022 à 11:13 +0200, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > test ml

> Chez moi sur evolution le message est considéré comme spam.
> Dans les sources :
> X-Spam-Flag: yes
> X-Spam-Level: ***
> X-GND-Spam-Score: 290
> X-GND-Status: SPAM
> En espérant que cela puisse aider.

Oui, ça m'aide, merci.

Déjà, je n'ai pas reçu mon propre message depuis la liste,
alors que c'est un nouveau mail créé ce matin...
Donc à peine créé il est déjà bloqué.

Quel serveur de mails indique que mon mail est un spam ?

J'utilise smtp.bbox.fr, immédiatement je reçois ce message :
"Le serveur a répondu : «5.7.1 Rejected for policy reason»
Avec d'autres smtp, le destinataire ne reçoit rien,
sinon une déclaration de spam.
Bref, ça devient inquétiant, je ne sais quoi faire.
Bonne soirée

Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[Georgi Naplatanov]

On 4/25/22 18:46, R. Ramesh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs replacement.
> I am interested in building one based on core i3-12100 cpu. It has intel
> UHD 730 per my quick check. Is this CPU/GPU combo fully supported in
> debian 11/bullseye? I am looking to run the current setup as is on new
> hardware (simply swap the disk from NUC to new build)
> 
> Debian 11 bullseye with default kernel/packages for most part.
> Grup_pc legacy BIOS boot.
> X org with intel driver (I think) that is currently running on Pentium
> N3700/NUC.
> mythtv 31/fixes from debian multimedia (I think)
> 
> Do you see any issues I should take care of before transfering the disk
> to the new system when I build. Let me know if I should go for older
> hardware to avoid any hiccups.
> 

Hi Ramesh,

Debian 11 was released almost 1 year ago. For new hardware you will need
Debian testing. For Debian 11 (current stable) you'll need second hand
hardware.

Kind regards
Georgi

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> 
> > Hello Sophie,
> > >  
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Good afternoon.
> > > > 
> > > > Thank You.
> > > > 
> > > > We do backup every evening.
> > > > 
> > > > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and burn 
> > > > on
> > > > CD?
> > > > 
> > 
> > We still don't know what the actual computer you use is :(
> > 
> > Unless it is a (very old) 32 bit only machine, I would recommend
> > 
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> > 
> > This is unofficial only because it contains non-free firmware. The firmware
> > may be necessary for your machine to boot and work well: it will almost
> > certainly be required if you are installing over a WiFi connection.
> 
> I am aware that this ISO has non-free packages for a wireless
> connection and that any needed will be used and installed by
> d-i. However, what about micorode packages, firmware-intel-sound,
> bluez-firmwarem and dahdi-firmware? At which stage(s) of an
> installation does d-i become aware of them?
> 

Some of these are recognised at inital boot: if unsure, they can be
added. For myself, I normally install the metapackages firmware-linux-nonfree
and firmware-misc-nonfree which solve the problem. As the discussion elsewhere
on Debian mailing lists is showing, it is really very difficult indeed to 
do without all firmware.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

> --
> Brian.
> 

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

[Brian]

On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

> Hello Sophie,
> >  
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Good afternoon.
> > > 
> > > Thank You.
> > > 
> > > We do backup every evening.
> > > 
> > > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and burn on
> > > CD?
> > > 
> 
> We still don't know what the actual computer you use is :(
> 
> Unless it is a (very old) 32 bit only machine, I would recommend
> 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> 
> This is unofficial only because it contains non-free firmware. The firmware
> may be necessary for your machine to boot and work well: it will almost
> certainly be required if you are installing over a WiFi connection.

I am aware that this ISO has non-free packages for a wireless
connection and that any needed will be used and installed by
d-i. However, what about micorode packages, firmware-intel-sound,
bluez-firmwarem and dahdi-firmware? At which stage(s) of an
installation does d-i become aware of them?

--
Brian.

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

Hello Sophie,
>  
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Good afternoon.
> > 
> > Thank You.
> > 
> > We do backup every evening.
> > 
> > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and burn on
> > CD?
> > 

We still don't know what the actual computer you use is :(

Unless it is a (very old) 32 bit only machine, I would recommend

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso

This is unofficial only because it contains non-free firmware. The firmware
may be necessary for your machine to boot and work well: it will almost
certainly be required if you are installing over a WiFi connection.

The disk listed above is a network install disk: it is small to download
but uses network bandwidth to pull down the rest of the Debian packages
required.

If you can _only_ boot from CD, then you need a program capable of 
burning a .iso to a disk.

If you have a machine running Windows, you can use a program called
Rufus very effectively to write the .iso image to a USB stick.
See also: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstall

See also the installation guide at 
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/index.en.html.

I hope this helps. With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater.


> > We want to repair Debian
> > for learning-studying Linux.
> > 
> > Thank You
> > 
> > Sophie
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

 

Re: email lacks sender address

[Brian]

On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 11:39:01 -0400, Haines Brown wrote:

> 2022-04-24 10:44:02 1nidSz-00068k-QP rejected from <> U=Debian-exim: message 
> to>
> Envelope-from: <>
> Envelope-to: 
> 
> I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the
> sender.

What do have in /etc/mailname?  

-- 
Brian.

Re: email lacks sender address

[David Wright]

On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 11:39:01 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:31:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > 
> > You need to look¹ at exim's logs (/var/log/exim4/mainlog,
> > /var/log/exim4/mainlog.1 and /var/log/exim4/mainlog.*.gz)
> > to see what it's trying to send. There should be a line
> > where mutt hands your email to exim
> >
> > DATE TIME UNIQUESTRING <= your-from-address U=username … message-ID
> > 
> > the string of interest↑
> > 
> > That should be followed by:
> > 
> > DATE TIME SAMESTRING => to-address A=this B=that …
> 
> 2022-04-24 10:44:02 1nidSz-00068k-QP rejected from <> U=Debian-exim: message 
> to>
> Envelope-from: <>
> Envelope-to: 
> 
> I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the
> sender.

Right, so now we need to know the origin of that particular email.
What do the logs show happening at that time.

If you, personally, sent it, presumably from mutt, and presumably
knowing that you did, then there's a problem in mutt, or in your
ability to compose a conforming email.

If the system sent it, which seems more likely because it's to root,
then we need to determine why the system that sent it didn't "know"
who it was. Typical senders include cron, sudo, SMART, etc.

Also, you need to check whether "you" is receiving a failed message
on the system. Because of the contents of /etc/aliases, this is
normally redirected to root/postmaster → root → sysadmin, where
sysadmin is the First User (who set up the machine), ie it should
arrive in /var/mail/you.

> > > what does "test-server.example.net" refer to? Sorry for my ignorance.
> > 
> > Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example.com
> 
> Thanks David, but that was not my question. What test server is being 
> takled about?
> 
> I guess that the mail server is my own machine and so try:
> 
>   $ swaks  --to  ri...@yahoo.com --from hai...@histomat.net
>   ...
>   <-  250 STARTTLS
> -> MAIL FROM:
>   <** 553 5.7.2 [TSS09] All messages from 32.210.108.191 will be 
> permanently deferred; Retrying will NOT succeed. See 
>   https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes
>-> QUIT
>   *** Remote host closed connection unexpectedly.
> 
> Incidentally, I get 
> 
>   $ hostname -A
>   lenin-16.home
> 
> that's strange. Should be lenin.histomat.net

Your example demonstrates what example.net (and its companions,
com/org/edu) is for: example.net is a real domain, designed for use
in internet documentation.

$ ping test-server.example.net
ping: test-server.example.net: Name or service not known
$ ping www.example.net
PING www.example.net (93.184.216.34) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 93.184.216.34 (93.184.216.34): icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=25.5 ms
^C
--- www.example.net ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 25.477/25.477/25.477/0.000 ms
$ ping example.net
PING example.net (93.184.216.34) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 93.184.216.34 (93.184.216.34): icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=24.1 ms
64 bytes from 93.184.216.34 (93.184.216.34): icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=23.6 ms
^C
--- example.net ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 2ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.573/23.857/24.142/0.323 ms
$ 

Why do all telephone numbers in the movies start 555 …

Cheers,
David.

Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:46:05AM -0500, R. Ramesh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs replacement. I
> am interested in building one based on core i3-12100 cpu. It has intel UHD
> 730 per my quick check. Is this CPU/GPU combo fully supported in debian
> 11/bullseye? I am looking to run the current setup as is on new hardware
> (simply swap the disk from NUC to new build)
> 
> Debian 11 bullseye with default kernel/packages for most part.
> Grup_pc legacy BIOS boot.
> X org with intel driver (I think) that is currently running on Pentium
> N3700/NUC.
> mythtv 31/fixes from debian multimedia (I think)
> 
> Do you see any issues I should take care of before transfering the disk to
> the new system when I build. Let me know if I should go for older hardware
> to avoid any hiccups.
> 
> Regards
> Ramesh
> 

Do you _really_ need to swap the current disk? If not: put a new disk into
new hardware and you only have to copy data over. Ideally NVME or something
fast.

You may find some use for the old NUC: the only reason I say this particularly
is because you installed with BIOS boot and changing that may be as much
trouble as a new install.

mythtv - debian-multimedia - yours to sort out, I think, but again, you
may find it easier to have a spare machine that (sort of) works while you
debug the new NUC

Hope this helps - with every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:25:46AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote:
> I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my
> remote ones. I am looking at Dell's site and an almost-empty chassis with a
> low-end Intel, 1 TB SATA, and 8 Gb ECC  RAM is in the $800 ball park. It
> looks very upgradeable.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions on whether to buy or not? I would add at least
> two 1 Tb SSD from Crucial to it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Tom

The HP Microserver is the same sort of beast: HPE Proliant Microserver
Gen 10 Plus is about the size of a bookshelf speaker by the looks.

HPE's own drives are relatively expensive. This is effectively a fit and 
forget solution, I think. Drives aren't hot swap but if you're going to use
SSD anyway, that doesn't matter.

The ILO card is a little bit more.

Alternatively, it might be worth looking at something small and silent
from a US? equivalent of QuietPC / Overclockers UK.

Hope this helps,

All best, as ever,

Andy Cater

Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

[R. Ramesh]

Hi,

  My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs 
replacement. I am interested in building one based on core i3-12100 cpu. 
It has intel UHD 730 per my quick check. Is this CPU/GPU combo fully 
supported in debian 11/bullseye? I am looking to run the current setup 
as is on new hardware (simply swap the disk from NUC to new build)


Debian 11 bullseye with default kernel/packages for most part.
Grup_pc legacy BIOS boot.
X org with intel driver (I think) that is currently running on Pentium 
N3700/NUC.

mythtv 31/fixes from debian multimedia (I think)

Do you see any issues I should take care of before transfering the disk 
to the new system when I build. Let me know if I should go for older 
hardware to avoid any hiccups.


Regards
Ramesh

Re: test

[Rémi Demarthe]

Bonjour,

Le lundi 25 avril 2022 à 11:13 +0200, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> test ml
> 

Chez moi sur evolution le message est considéré comme spam.
Dans les sources :

X-Spam-Flag: yes
X-Spam-Level: ***
X-GND-Spam-Score: 290
X-GND-Status: SPAM

En espérant que cela puisse aider.

--
Rémi Demarthe

Re: email lacks sender address

[Haines Brown]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:31:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> 
> You need to look¹ at exim's logs (/var/log/exim4/mainlog,
> /var/log/exim4/mainlog.1 and /var/log/exim4/mainlog.*.gz)
> to see what it's trying to send. There should be a line
> where mutt hands your email to exim
>
> DATE TIME UNIQUESTRING <= your-from-address U=username … message-ID
> 
> the string of interest↑
> 
> That should be followed by:
> 
> DATE TIME SAMESTRING => to-address A=this B=that …

2022-04-24 10:44:02 1nidSz-00068k-QP rejected from <> U=Debian-exim: message to>
Envelope-from: <>
Envelope-to: 

I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the
sender.
 
> > what does "test-server.example.net" refer to? Sorry for my ignorance.
> 
> Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example.com

Thanks David, but that was not my question. What test server is being 
takled about?

I guess that the mail server is my own machine and so try:

  $ swaks  --to  ri...@yahoo.com --from hai...@histomat.net
  ...
  <-  250 STARTTLS
-> MAIL FROM:
  <** 553 5.7.2 [TSS09] All messages from 32.210.108.191 will be 
permanently deferred; Retrying will NOT succeed. See 
  https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes
   -> QUIT
  *** Remote host closed connection unexpectedly.

Incidentally, I get 

  $ hostname -A
  lenin-16.home

that's strange. Should be lenin.histomat.net

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

[Charles Curley]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:47:50 -0700
David Christensen  wrote:

> I will assume all three HDD's are the same make and model, per 
> smartctl(8) report below.

Nope. Two WD Reds, as the report indicates, but not bought at the same
time so likely to be different in detail. One Seagate Ironwolf.

> >> How is the motherboard connected to the HDD's?  
> > 
> > SATA. All hdds are on the motherboard,   
> 
> 
> What is on the other ports -- /dev/sda is optical?  /dev/sdb and 
> /dev/sdc are other two HDD's?

Debian and finnix see things differently. On both. sdc and sdd are part
of the RAID array. On Debian, sda is the system drive: /, /home, /etc,
swap, /boot, etc.. sdb is part of the RAID array. Finnix swaps those
two.

> 
> 
> SATA cables -- Color?  Locking or non-locking connectors?Came
> with motherboard or aftermarket?  If the latter, make and model?

All black, two red. The black ones came with the computer. The red ones
are aftermarket, Alchemy SATA3 30 cm. BFA-MSC-SATA330RK-RP. All lock.


> Please run long tests now on all three drives.  Save all of the
> reports. Post the report(s) for any drive(s) with SMART failures
> and/or dmesg(1) errors.

Long tests run about 10 hours. I did one overnight on sdd, and it
reported no errors. No dmesg errors sine the ones I reported in the
original email.

--
smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.7.0-2-amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Red
Device Model: WDC WD40EFRX-68N32N0
Serial Number:WD-
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2bda92107
Firmware Version: 82.00A82
User Capacity:4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:5400 rpm
Form Factor:  3.5 inches
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:Mon Apr 25 15:02:26 2022 UTC
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:  (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever 
been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection:(43680) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:(0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off 
support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time:(   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:( 463) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:(   5) minutes.
SCT capabilities:  (0x303d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE  UPDATED  
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f   200   200   051Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
  3 Spin_Up_Time0x0027   168   166   021Pre-fail  Always   
-   6583
  4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   41
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e   200   200   000Old_age   Always   
-   0
  9 Power_On_Hours  0x0032   083   083   000Old_age   Always   
-   

Re: Wifi randomly stops after upgrade

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:14 AM Nicholas Geovanis 
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:33 AM Marcelo Laia 
> wrote:
>
>> After upgrade, I got wifi randomly stops and I need to turn off and on
>> it in order to get it back on.
>> It's very annoying!
>> Please, have you any ideia how I start to inspect this problem?
>>
>
> Nobody smarter has replied so I'll try :-)
> Searching for info on recent related problem reports there are several
> possible causes. But since you've
> just upgraded:
> First, could this be a result of MAC randomisation being active now?
> Second, is it normal to have both the NetworkManager.service and
> networking.service active at the same time?
>

The answer to my second question: That's normal on 11.3 at least in the
presence of both
cabled and wifi internet.


>  logs -
>> after wifi stopped
>>
>> # journalctl -f
>> abr 24 12:01:03 marcelo dbus-daemon[712]: [system] Successfully activated
>> service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
>> abr 24 12:01:03 marcelo systemd[1]: Started Network Manager Script
>> Dispatcher Service.
>> abr 24 12:01:04 marcelo NetworkManager[780]:   [1650812464.3696]
>> dhcp4 (wlp2s0): state changed new lease, address=192.168.1.175
>> abr 24 12:01:04 marcelo soffice.bin[9591]: g_object_weak_unref: couldn't
>> find weak ref 0x7fa6e7a07d10(0x7fa6c8009360)
>> abr 24 12:01:14 marcelo systemd[1]: NetworkManager-dispatcher.service:
>> Deactivated successfully.
>> abr 24 12:01:15 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
>> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-37 noise=-93 txrate=72200
>> abr 24 12:03:01 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
>> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-32 noise=-93 txrate=72200
>> abr 24 12:03:07 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
>> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-21 noise=-95 txrate=72200
>> abr 24 12:03:09 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
>> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-21 noise=-95 txrate=72200
>> abr 24 12:03:23 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
>> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-13 noise=-95 txrate=72200
>>
>> after turn off and turn on wifi (I turn off and turn on in
>> Networking-manager dropdown menu)
>>
>> # journalctl -f
>> abr 24 12:07:48 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 obtained auth for
>> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh
>> abr 24 12:07:48 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 obtained auth for
>> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh
>> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo goa-daemon[3378]: secret_password_lookup_sync()
>> returned NULL
>> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 is trying to obtain
>> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh auth (only_trusted:0)
>> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 is trying to obtain
>> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh auth (only_trusted:0)
>> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 obtained auth for
>> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh
>> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 obtained auth for
>> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh
>> abr 24 12:07:50 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: get-details transaction
>> /17151_bebcddce from uid 1000 finished with success after 5070ms
>> abr 24 12:07:50 marcelo goa-daemon[3378]: secret_password_lookup_sync()
>> returned NULL
>> abr 24 12:07:56 marcelo systemd[1]: NetworkManager-dispatcher.service:
>> Deactivated successfully.
>> abr 24 12:08:26 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: refresh-cache transaction
>> /17148_acddadad from uid 1000 finished with success after 36393ms
>> abr 24 12:08:26 marcelo gnome-software[3560]: failed to refresh the
>> cache: Failed to download ‘https://odrs.gnome.org/1.0/reviews/api/ratings’:
>> Cannot resolve hostname: Erro ao resolver “odrs.gnome.org”: Nome ou
>> serviço desconhecido
>> abr 24 12:08:30 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: refresh-cache transaction
>> /17149_aeddeabb from uid 1000 finished with cancelled-priority after 3887ms
>> abr 24 12:08:30 marcelo packagekitd[1377]: Falhou o download de alguns
>> ficheiros de índice. Foram ignorados ou os antigos foram usados em seu
>> lugar.
>> abr 24 12:08:30 marcelo gnome-software[3560]: failed to refresh the
>> cache: Failed to download ‘https://odrs.gnome.org/1.0/reviews/api/ratings’:
>> Cannot resolve hostname: Erro ao resolver “odrs.gnome.org”: Nome ou
>> serviço desconhecido
>> abr 24 12:08:34 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: get-updates transaction
>> /17167_edccedea from uid 1000 finished with success after 3655ms
>> abr 24 12:08:36 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: refresh-cache transaction
>> /17152_ccdebacd from uid 1000 finished with cancelled-priority after 2014ms
>> abr 24 12:08:36 marcelo packagekitd[1377]: Falhou o download de alguns
>> ficheiros de índice. Foram ignorados ou os antigos foram usados em seu
>> lugar.
>> abr 24 12:08:36 marcelo gnome-software[3560]: failed to refresh the
>> cache: failed to download file: Could not resolve host: cdn.fwupd.org
>> abr 24 12:08:39 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: get-details 

Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

[Tom Browder]

I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my
remote ones. I am looking at Dell's site and an almost-empty chassis with a
low-end Intel, 1 TB SATA, and 8 Gb ECC  RAM is in the $800 ball park. It
looks very upgradeable.

Anyone have any suggestions on whether to buy or not? I would add at least
two 1 Tb SSD from Crucial to it.

Thanks,

-Tom

Re: Wifi randomly stops after upgrade

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:33 AM Marcelo Laia  wrote:

> After upgrade, I got wifi randomly stops and I need to turn off and on
> it in order to get it back on.
> It's very annoying!
> Please, have you any ideia how I start to inspect this problem?
>

Nobody smarter has replied so I'll try :-)
Searching for info on recent related problem reports there are several
possible causes. But since you've
just upgraded:
First, could this be a result of MAC randomisation being active now?
Second, is it normal to have both the NetworkManager.service and
networking.service active at the same time?

 logs -
> after wifi stopped
>
> # journalctl -f
> abr 24 12:01:03 marcelo dbus-daemon[712]: [system] Successfully activated
> service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
> abr 24 12:01:03 marcelo systemd[1]: Started Network Manager Script
> Dispatcher Service.
> abr 24 12:01:04 marcelo NetworkManager[780]:   [1650812464.3696]
> dhcp4 (wlp2s0): state changed new lease, address=192.168.1.175
> abr 24 12:01:04 marcelo soffice.bin[9591]: g_object_weak_unref: couldn't
> find weak ref 0x7fa6e7a07d10(0x7fa6c8009360)
> abr 24 12:01:14 marcelo systemd[1]: NetworkManager-dispatcher.service:
> Deactivated successfully.
> abr 24 12:01:15 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-37 noise=-93 txrate=72200
> abr 24 12:03:01 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-32 noise=-93 txrate=72200
> abr 24 12:03:07 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-21 noise=-95 txrate=72200
> abr 24 12:03:09 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-21 noise=-95 txrate=72200
> abr 24 12:03:23 marcelo wpa_supplicant[781]: wlp2s0:
> CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-13 noise=-95 txrate=72200
>
> after turn off and turn on wifi (I turn off and turn on in
> Networking-manager dropdown menu)
>
> # journalctl -f
> abr 24 12:07:48 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 obtained auth for
> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh
> abr 24 12:07:48 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 obtained auth for
> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh
> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo goa-daemon[3378]: secret_password_lookup_sync()
> returned NULL
> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 is trying to obtain
> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh auth (only_trusted:0)
> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 is trying to obtain
> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh auth (only_trusted:0)
> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 obtained auth for
> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh
> abr 24 12:07:49 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: uid 1000 obtained auth for
> org.freedesktop.packagekit.system-sources-refresh
> abr 24 12:07:50 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: get-details transaction
> /17151_bebcddce from uid 1000 finished with success after 5070ms
> abr 24 12:07:50 marcelo goa-daemon[3378]: secret_password_lookup_sync()
> returned NULL
> abr 24 12:07:56 marcelo systemd[1]: NetworkManager-dispatcher.service:
> Deactivated successfully.
> abr 24 12:08:26 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: refresh-cache transaction
> /17148_acddadad from uid 1000 finished with success after 36393ms
> abr 24 12:08:26 marcelo gnome-software[3560]: failed to refresh the cache:
> Failed to download ‘https://odrs.gnome.org/1.0/reviews/api/ratings’:
> Cannot resolve hostname: Erro ao resolver “odrs.gnome.org”: Nome ou
> serviço desconhecido
> abr 24 12:08:30 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: refresh-cache transaction
> /17149_aeddeabb from uid 1000 finished with cancelled-priority after 3887ms
> abr 24 12:08:30 marcelo packagekitd[1377]: Falhou o download de alguns
> ficheiros de índice. Foram ignorados ou os antigos foram usados em seu
> lugar.
> abr 24 12:08:30 marcelo gnome-software[3560]: failed to refresh the cache:
> Failed to download ‘https://odrs.gnome.org/1.0/reviews/api/ratings’:
> Cannot resolve hostname: Erro ao resolver “odrs.gnome.org”: Nome ou
> serviço desconhecido
> abr 24 12:08:34 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: get-updates transaction
> /17167_edccedea from uid 1000 finished with success after 3655ms
> abr 24 12:08:36 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: refresh-cache transaction
> /17152_ccdebacd from uid 1000 finished with cancelled-priority after 2014ms
> abr 24 12:08:36 marcelo packagekitd[1377]: Falhou o download de alguns
> ficheiros de índice. Foram ignorados ou os antigos foram usados em seu
> lugar.
> abr 24 12:08:36 marcelo gnome-software[3560]: failed to refresh the cache:
> failed to download file: Could not resolve host: cdn.fwupd.org
> abr 24 12:08:39 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: get-details transaction
> /17168_addbccbb from uid 1000 finished with success after 2892ms
> abr 24 12:08:39 marcelo PackageKit[1377]: refresh-cache transaction
> /17153_ccdbcddb from uid 1000 finished with cancelled-priority after 899ms
> abr 24 12:08:39 marcelo packagekitd[1377]: Falhou o 

Re: email lacks sender address

[David Wright]

On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 10:24:18 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 09:18:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 12:04:55 (-), Curt wrote:
> > > I thought 'set use_envelope_from' took a boolean value (yes or no). 
> > 
> > Good proofreading, thanks. The fact that this mistake did not
> > produce an error message may be down to the other problem:
> > mutt's configuration file is not called ~./muttrc/muttrc, but
> > either ~./muttrc or  ~./mutt/muttrc (I'm not qualified to
> > comment on the next possibility, $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/mutt/muttrc,
> > which might have something to do with DEs).
> 
> According to 
> :
> 
>   $XDG_CONFIG_HOME defines the base directory relative to which
>   user-specific configuration files should be stored. If $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
>   is either not set or empty, a default equal to $HOME/.config should
>   be used.
> 
> That would make it ~/.config/mutt/muttrc unless that environment variable
> is set (which it never is in any sensible setup).

I suppose that makes my guess close, but no cigar. I have noticed
that more and more packages place their configuration in ~/.config,
which is tidier than scattering them in ~ itself, but hadn't
twigged the reasoning. Most man pages just present the fact as a
fait accompli: "the configuration is in ~/.config/foo". Only about
two dozen of them mention XDG at all on my system's selection.
(I haven't tried to correlate their mentioning XDG with where their
configuration is placed.)

> So, either the OP has placed the wrong lines in the wrong file, or they
> have misrepresented their setup.

Yes, a typo, but one that raises another issue: why no reaction
to mutt's error message when it parses their configuration file?

Cheers,
David.

Installation paquet Samba

[Frederic Zulian]

Bonjour,

apt-get install samba me retourne un message d'erreur et j'ai un peu de mal
à trouver une solution :

Paramétrage de samba-common-bin (2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ...
Checking smb.conf with testparm
Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
Error loading services.
dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba-common-bin (--configure) :
 installed samba-common-bin package post-installation script subprocess
returned error exit status 1
dpkg: des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de samba :
 samba dépend de samba-common-bin (= 2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ; cependant :
 Le paquet samba-common-bin n'est pas encore configuré.

dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba (--configure) :
 problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré
Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour libc-bin (2.33-7) ...
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
 samba-common-bin
 samba
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Paramétrage de samba-common-bin (2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ...
Checking smb.conf with testparm
Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
Error loading services.
dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba-common-bin (--configure) :
 installed samba-common-bin package post-installation script subprocess
returned error exit status 1
dpkg: des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de samba :
 samba dépend de samba-common-bin (= 2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ; cependant :
 Le paquet samba-common-bin n'est pas encore configuré.

dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba (--configure) :
 problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
 samba-common-bin
 samba

dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba-common-bin (--configure) :
 installed samba-common-bin package post-installation script subprocess
returned error exit status 1
dpkg: des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de samba :
 samba dépend de samba-common-bin (= 2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ; cependant :
 Le paquet samba-common-bin n'est pas encore configuré.


Frédéric ZULIAN
--
Pour la santé de votre ordinateur, préférez les logiciels libres.
https://www.april.org/

Re: email lacks sender address

[Haines Brown]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 09:18:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 12:04:55 (-), Curt wrote:
> > On 2022-04-25, Haines Brown  wrote:
> > >
> > > I placed these two lines in ~./muttrc/muttrc
> > >
> > >   set envelope_from_address=hai...@histomat.net
> > >   set use_envelope_from=hai...@histomat.net
> > >
> > > but still get 521 5.5.1 Protocol error om outgoing messages.
> >  
> > I thought 'set use_envelope_from' took a boolean value (yes or no). 
> 
> Good proofreading, thanks. The fact that this mistake did not
> produce an error message may be down to the other problem:
> mutt's configuration file is not called ~./muttrc/muttrc, but
> either ~./muttrc or  ~./mutt/muttrc (I'm not qualified to
> comment on the next possibility, $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/mutt/muttrc,
> which might have something to do with DEs).
> 
> Cheers,
> David.

My apoloy for the typo. In fact my confitguration file is 
~/.mutt/muttrc 

Re: email lacks sender address

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 09:18:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 12:04:55 (-), Curt wrote:
> > I thought 'set use_envelope_from' took a boolean value (yes or no). 
> 
> Good proofreading, thanks. The fact that this mistake did not
> produce an error message may be down to the other problem:
> mutt's configuration file is not called ~./muttrc/muttrc, but
> either ~./muttrc or  ~./mutt/muttrc (I'm not qualified to
> comment on the next possibility, $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/mutt/muttrc,
> which might have something to do with DEs).

According to 
:

  $XDG_CONFIG_HOME defines the base directory relative to which
  user-specific configuration files should be stored. If $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
  is either not set or empty, a default equal to $HOME/.config should
  be used.

That would make it ~/.config/mutt/muttrc unless that environment variable
is set (which it never is in any sensible setup).

So, either the OP has placed the wrong lines in the wrong file, or they
have misrepresented their setup.

Re: email lacks sender address

[David Wright]

On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 12:04:55 (-), Curt wrote:
> On 2022-04-25, Haines Brown  wrote:
> >
> > I placed these two lines in ~./muttrc/muttrc
> >
> >   set envelope_from_address=hai...@histomat.net
> >   set use_envelope_from=hai...@histomat.net
> >
> > but still get 521 5.5.1 Protocol error om outgoing messages.
>  
> I thought 'set use_envelope_from' took a boolean value (yes or no). 

Good proofreading, thanks. The fact that this mistake did not
produce an error message may be down to the other problem:
mutt's configuration file is not called ~./muttrc/muttrc, but
either ~./muttrc or  ~./mutt/muttrc (I'm not qualified to
comment on the next possibility, $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/mutt/muttrc,
which might have something to do with DEs).

Cheers,
David.

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

[Charles Curley]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700
David Christensen  wrote:

> So, RAID 5 HDD's are sda, sdc, and sdd, and optical is sdb?

Optical is sr0. sda is an SSD with all the system, /home, etc. md0 is
mounted at /crc.

> 
> 
> You do have a backup of your Debian system configuration files and
> your data, right?

Lots of them.
https://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/backups-on-linux/


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Re: Cirtuitos eletrônicos

[Lucas Castro]

Há alguns anos utilizei o qucs,

mas nos repositório do debian tem simulIDE.


On 4/24/22 2:32 PM, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha wrote:

Pessoal, boa tarde!

estou estudando arquitetura de computadores. Preciso encontrar uma
alternativa a softwares como Circuit Maker[1], software sugerido pelo
professor da disciplina só que é pra Windows. Alguém conhece alguma
alternativa pra Linux para indicar?

Grato,

Leonardo Rocha

[1] - 
https://docente.ifrn.edu.br/leonardoteixeira/links/instalador-do-circuitmaker-student/view

Installation paquet Samba + samba-common-bin

[Frederic Zulian]

Bonjour,

apt-get install samba me renvoit un message d'erreur et j'ai un peu de mal
à résoudre le problème.

Je suis en testing et apt-get update + apt-get upgrade ne change rien.

Une idée ?

Paramétrage de samba-common-bin (2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ...
Checking smb.conf with testparm
Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
Error loading services.
dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba-common-bin (--configure) :
 installed samba-common-bin package post-installation script subprocess
returned error exit status 1
dpkg: des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de samba :
 samba dépend de samba-common-bin (= 2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ; cependant :
 Le paquet samba-common-bin n'est pas encore configuré.

dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba (--configure) :
 problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré
Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour libc-bin (2.33-7) ...
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
 samba-common-bin
 samba
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Paramétrage de samba-common-bin (2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ...
Checking smb.conf with testparm
Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
Error loading services.
dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba-common-bin (--configure) :
 installed samba-common-bin package post-installation script subprocess
returned error exit status 1
dpkg: des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de samba :
 samba dépend de samba-common-bin (= 2:4.16.0+dfsg-6) ; cependant :
 Le paquet samba-common-bin n'est pas encore configuré.

dpkg: erreur de traitement du paquet samba (--configure) :
 problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
 samba-common-bin
 samba

Frédéric ZULIAN

Re: email lacks sender address

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:37:00PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:16:09AM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
> > Haines Brown  writes:
> > 
> > > (... thanks ...)
> > > 521 5.5.1 Protocol error (154.24 ms)
> > > Unverified address
> > >
> > > I reconfigured exim4 and it has no problem.
> > >
> > 
> > Or you try with sSMTP, very easy!
> > 
> > Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion, but I have same problem with ssmtp as I 
> do with swaks: what does "test-server.example.net" refer to? Sorry
> for my ignorance. 

unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp
[...]
Description-en: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub
 A secure, effective and simple way of getting mail off a system to your
 mail hub. It contains no suid-binaries or other dangerous things - no mail
 spool to poke around in, and no daemons running in the background. Mail is
 simply forwarded to the configured mailhost. Extremely easy configuration.

The entire point of this package is that it's meant to be used on a
"dumb client" which does not wish to have its own outgoing mail queue.
Instead, it forwards all of your mail to your "smart host" -- the MTA
that has been set up for your organization's dumb clients to use.

So, the single piece of information you need in order to use ssmtp is
the hostname of your smart host.  Also known as your mail relay.  Or many
other names.  It's where you want your outgoing mail to be handled.

Re: email lacks sender address

[Curt]

On 2022-04-25, Haines Brown  wrote:
>
> I placed these two lines in ~./muttrc/muttrc
>
>   set envelope_from_address=hai...@histomat.net
>   set use_envelope_from=hai...@histomat.net
>
> but still get 521 5.5.1 Protocol error om outgoing messages.
>
>


I thought 'set use_envelope_from' took a boolean value (yes or no). 

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

[Hans]

Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 12:58:48 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
Best version, if you do not want to have administration work, would be 
Debian-11 (which is bullseye). You should choose "stable", which is well 
tested and does not have much changes in the future.

Of course you will chose the correct version for your hardware. I suppose (if 
the computer is not too old), will be amd64, which is 64-Bit. Make sure, you 
get the correct one.

Good luck!

Best

Hans

 

> 
> 
> 
> Good afternoon.
> 
> Thank You.
> 
> We do backup every evening.
> 
> What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and burn on
> CD?
> 
> We want to repair Debian
> for learning-studying Linux.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Sophie
> 
> 
> 

Re: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Sophie / Schwibinger Michael  wrote:
> Can ext3 files burned on CD and transported to Ubuntu and WIN PCs?

All readable files can be burnt on CD and then read by Ubuntu and MS-Windows.
It does not matter in which kind of filesystem they are stored, as long as
it is mounted, permits read access to the file, and the file is not too
large for the CD.

The ways to burn the CD differ from operating system to operating system.
As said, the burning operating system will have to be able to mount ext3.
So with MS-Windows it might become demanding to put that file onto a CD.


Hans quoted:
> Apr 24 17:02:52 ah kernel: [40646.274262] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI 
> removable disk

This looks like a USB stick or a USB attached hard disk.
(An optical drive would appear as [srN] with some number N.)


> ... sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK 
> driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
> ... sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Not Ready [current]
> ... sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: Medium not present

The device says that it has no storage medium.
If it is not a drive with removable medium, then it is damaged internally.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon.

Thank You.

We do backup every evening.

What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and burn on CD?

We want to repair Debian
for learning-studying Linux.

Thank You

Sophie



Von: Hans 
Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 09:55
An: Schwibinger Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE 
cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 11:35:38 CEST schrieben Sie:
If you have no important data, a fresh installation will do the best.

Do NOT install from a live-dvd, download the installer cd for your hardware
from the debian site.

There is a good installation manual available in different languages.

It should be pretty easy, when you read the manual carefully.
Additional, this is also a good learning effect.

Good luck!

Hans


> Good morning
>
> Thank You
>
>
> Is the best solution
> to destroy the system
> download LIVE CD Debian 11 64
> LXDE
> and install with ext3?
>
> Regards
> Sophie
>
> Can ext3 files burned on CD and transported to Ubuntu and WIN PCs?
> Good morning
>
> Thank You
>
>
> Is the best solution
> to destroy the system
> download LIVE CD Debian 11 64
> LXDE
> and install with ext3?
>
> Regards
> Sophie
>
> Can ext3 files burned on CD and transported to Ubuntu and WIN PCs?
>
>
> Von: Hans 
> Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 09:28
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Cc: Schwibinger Michael 
> Betreff: Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE
> cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?
>
> Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 10:25:41 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
> Hi Sophie,
>
> I have the feeling, there is some knowledge basics missing releted to debian
> and linux at all.
>
> Thus it is very, very difficult, to help you, if even maybe possible at all.
> Maybe you should spend some money and pay someone to fix your system, who
> offers such as a commercial service.
>
> We can try on, but I think, only looking from the far, at the end we will
> loose.
>
> Sorry for that!
>
> Best regards
>
> Hans
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> Von: Hans 
> Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 09:28
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Cc: Schwibinger Michael 
> Betreff: Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE
> cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?
>
> Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 10:25:41 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
> Hi Sophie,
>
> I have the feeling, there is some knowledge basics missing releted to debian
> and linux at all.
>
> Thus it is very, very difficult, to help you, if even maybe possible at all.
> Maybe you should spend some money and pay someone to fix your system, who
> offers such as a commercial service.
>
> We can try on, but I think, only looking from the far, at the end we will
> loose.
>
> Sorry for that!
>
> Best regards
>
> Hans

Re: test

[ajh . valmer]

On Monday 25 April 2022 12:01:23 Fernand COSTA wrote:
> vu ;)
> Le 25/04/2022 à 11:13, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > test ml

Merci.

Malgré mon nouveau mail ,
(l'ancien  posant problème)
je ne reçois pas le mail que j'envoie à la ML Debian en retour.

Re: zwart op wit, constrastrijk

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 24-04-2022 om 15:40 schreef Geert Stappers:


Hoi,


Zwarte inkt op wit papier is de contrastrijke combinatie die we gewend
zijn. Er wordt minder gedrukt (kranten / boeken ) dan voorheen, maar
wit papier en donkere penkleur (zwart / blauw) is er als vanouds.

Op mijn beeldscherm doe ik hetzelfde: Witte achtergrond en zwarte tekst.

Aanname: Er zijn hier mensen die dat ook hebben.



Programmas die lichte kleuren als geel en lichtblauw gebruiken
om tekst te laten opvallen.



Dat probleem ken ik...


Wat is er aan mogelijkheden om aan te geven wat de achtergrond kleur is?

In environmentvariable TERM heb ik 'xterm-256color' staan.
Is er iets als "xterm-256color-lightbg" en "xterm-256color-darkbg"?


Ik ben een andere terminal gebruiken ("mate-terminal"), deze heeft 
default een zwarte achtergrond. Daarop zie je wel goed de lichte kleuren.


Wellicht zijn er ook andere/betere oplossingen.

Groet,
Paul


--
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://vandervlis.nl/

Re: test

[Fernand COSTA]

vu ;)


Le 25/04/2022 à 11:13, ajh-valmer a écrit :

test ml

[HS] Recherche spécialiste PHP-7

[ajh . valmer]

Bonjour,

Je recherche un bon spécialiste PHP-7.2.

Objectif : 
modifier les scripts PHP-5.6 en scripts PHP-7.2 d'un site Web sous Linux,
et Apache2.
Possibilté d'une rémunération.
Merci d'avance de me contacter en privé à mon mail : ajh.val...@bbox.fr
Bonne journée.

A. Valmer

Re: Problème de SMTP

[ajh.valmer]

On Saturday 16 April 2022 21:51:23 Pierre Malard wrote:
> Cela tend à prouver que et Free et Bouygues bloquent tout trafic SMTP 
> non autorisé maintenant. 
> À tout les coups ils vendent maintenant ce genre de service…

Qu'appelles tu par : "bloquer tout trafic SMTP non autorisé" ?
Non autorisé : sur quel motif et pourquoi ?
et comment être autorisé ?
Merci.

Re: Problème de SMTP

[Pierre Malard]

> Le 25 avr. 2022 à 11:50, ajh.valmer  a écrit :
> 
> On Saturday 16 April 2022 21:51:23 Pierre Malard wrote:
>> Cela tend à prouver que et Free et Bouygues bloquent tout trafic SMTP
>> non autorisé maintenant.
>> À tout les coups ils vendent maintenant ce genre de service…
> 
> Qu'appelles tu par : "bloquer tout trafic SMTP non autorisé" ?
> Non autorisé : sur quel motif et pourquoi ?

>> Le serveur a répondu : « 5.7.1 Spam Detected - Mail Rejected.
>> Please see our policy at: http://postmaster.free.fr/#spam_detected 
>> 
Et l’explication de Free :
550 spam detected <>
Explication <>
Vous avez cette erreur car le mail que vous avez envoyé a été analysé comme 
étant un spam par notre filtre antispam et il a été refusé lors de la reception.

Solution <>
Il peut être utile de commencer par vérifier que votre mail ne soit pas 
susceptible d'être confondu avec un spam, que ce soit en utilisant un logiciel 
antispam ou en vérifiant que votre mail est syntaxiquement correct et que vous 
n'utilisez pas de mécanismes qui puissent être confondus avec certaines 
méthodes de spammeurs.

Le cas échéant, nous vous invitons à nous signaler un faux positif en suivant 
cette procédure .

Voir ce qui est dit sur le lien « cette procédure » : 
https://postmaster.free.fr/#faux_positifs


> et comment être autorisé ?

par http://postmaster.free.fr/#spam_detected 

ou un contact avec ton prestataire, Free en l’occurence. Mais cela risque 
d’être payant pour ce service « pro ».

> Merci.

J’espère que cela peut t’aider mais je n’en suis pas certain

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AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You


Is the best solution
to destroy the system
download LIVE CD Debian 11 64
LXDE
and install with ext3?

Regards
Sophie

Can ext3 files burned on CD and transported to Ubuntu and WIN PCs?
Good morning

Thank You


Is the best solution
to destroy the system
download LIVE CD Debian 11 64
LXDE
and install with ext3?

Regards
Sophie

Can ext3 files burned on CD and transported to Ubuntu and WIN PCs?


Von: Hans 
Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 09:28
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Cc: Schwibinger Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot 
boot.. Is it destroyed?

Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 10:25:41 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
Hi Sophie,

I have the feeling, there is some knowledge basics missing releted to debian
and linux at all.

Thus it is very, very difficult, to help you, if even maybe possible at all.
Maybe you should spend some money and pay someone to fix your system, who
offers such as a commercial service.

We can try on, but I think, only looking from the far, at the end we will
loose.

Sorry for that!

Best regards

Hans












Von: Hans 
Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 09:28
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Cc: Schwibinger Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot 
boot.. Is it destroyed?

Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 10:25:41 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
Hi Sophie,

I have the feeling, there is some knowledge basics missing releted to debian
and linux at all.

Thus it is very, very difficult, to help you, if even maybe possible at all.
Maybe you should spend some money and pay someone to fix your system, who
offers such as a commercial service.

We can try on, but I think, only looking from the far, at the end we will
loose.

Sorry for that!

Best regards

Hans

Re: zwart op wit, constrastrijk

[Sijmen J. Mulder]

Hi Geert,

Geert Stappers wrote:
> Aanname: Er zijn hier mensen die dat ook hebben.

Zeker! Ik doe dat ook.

> Programmas die lichte kleuren als geel en lichtblauw gebruiken
> om tekst te laten opvallen.

Er zjn een aantal dingen die je kunt doen:

 1. Als je eigenlijk helemaal niet zo'n behoefte hebt kun je
programma's configurareren om geen kleur te gebruiken. Dat doe ik
meestal. In het bijzonder heeft de standaard Debian ~/.bashrc een
hele sectie die kleur configureert. Ik heb dat er allemaal
uitgehaald. Je kunt ook NO_COLOR=1 in de omgeving definieren, een
aantal programma's respecteren dat.

 2. Veel programma's gebruiken het basispallet van 16 kleuren. Dit
pallet kun je aanpassen in de voorkeuren van de terminal, dan kun je
bijvoorbeeld een andere, leesbare, tint aangeven voor 'lichtblauw'.
(In MATE Terminal vond ik het standaardkleurenschema al aardig.)

 3. Andere programma's die 256 of 'ware kleuren' gebruiken moet je soms
handmatig configureren.

Hopelijk heb je hier wat aan.

Sijmen

AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You


Is the best solution
to destroy the system
download LIVE CD Debian 11 64
LXDE
and install with ext3?

Regards
Sophie

Can ext3 files burned on CD and transported to Ubuntu and WIN PCs?



Von: Hans 
Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 09:28
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Cc: Schwibinger Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot 
boot.. Is it destroyed?

Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 10:25:41 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
Hi Sophie,

I have the feeling, there is some knowledge basics missing releted to debian
and linux at all.

Thus it is very, very difficult, to help you, if even maybe possible at all.
Maybe you should spend some money and pay someone to fix your system, who
offers such as a commercial service.

We can try on, but I think, only looking from the far, at the end we will
loose.

Sorry for that!

Best regards

Hans

AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?

[Schwibinger Michael]

Von: Hans 
Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 09:28
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Cc: Schwibinger Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot 
boot.. Is it destroyed?

Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 10:25:41 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
Hi Sophie,

I have the feeling, there is some knowledge basics missing releted to debian
and linux at all.

Thus it is very, very difficult, to help you, if even maybe possible at all.
Maybe you should spend some money and pay someone to fix your system, who
offers such as a commercial service.

We can try on, but I think, only looking from the far, at the end we will
loose.

Sorry for that!

Best regards

Hans

test

[ajh-valmer]

test ml

Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?

[Hans]

Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 10:25:41 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
Hi Sophie,

I have the feeling, there is some knowledge basics missing releted to debian 
and linux at all.

Thus it is very, very difficult, to help you, if even maybe possible at all.
Maybe you should spend some money and pay someone to fix your system, who 
offers such as a commercial service.

We can try on, but I think, only looking from the far, at the end we will 
loose.

Sorry for that!

Best regards

Hans
 

Re: déboguage app. X11 (fox toolkit)

[Basile Starynkevitch]

On 4/25/22 11:04, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:


Bonjour la liste,


C''est dans le cadre du projet RefPerSys http://refpersys.org/ 
(intelligence artificielle symbolique, en cours)


Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid (x86/64)

Je veux apprendre à coder pour la FOX-toolkit. Voir 
https://fox-toolkit.org/ (snapshot 1.7.80)



J'ai codé -comme exercice- l'exemple jouet 
https://github.com/bstarynk/misc-basile/blob/master/fox-tinyed.cc


qui se compile par le script en 
https://github.com/bstarynk/misc-basile/blob/master/tinyed-build.sh


Pour des raisons incompréhensibles, le commit b689595b84 
 
n'affiche qu'un rectangle blanc.



De mémoire, il existait un utilitaire X11 (en ligne de commande) qui 
obtenait les informations du serveur X11 sur une fenêtre selectionn 
à la souris.


De quel utilitaire s'agit-il?



C''est xwininfo.

--
Basile Starynkevitch
(only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement)
92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France
web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/

déboguage app. X11 (fox toolkit)

[Basile Starynkevitch]

Bonjour la liste,


C''est dans le cadre du projet RefPerSys http://refpersys.org/ 
(intelligence artificielle symbolique, en cours)


Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid (x86/64)

Je veux apprendre à coder pour la FOX-toolkit. Voir 
https://fox-toolkit.org/ (snapshot 1.7.80)



J'ai codé -comme exercice- l'exemple jouet 
https://github.com/bstarynk/misc-basile/blob/master/fox-tinyed.cc


qui se compile par le script en 
https://github.com/bstarynk/misc-basile/blob/master/tinyed-build.sh


Pour des raisons incompréhensibles, le commit b689595b84 
 
n'affiche qu'un rectangle blanc.



De mémoire, il existait un utilitaire X11 (en ligne de commande) qui 
obtenait les informations du serveur X11 sur une fenêtre selectionn à 
la souris.


De quel utilitaire s'agit-il?

pcbasile /home/basile 11:03 % xdpyinfo| head -60
name of display:    :0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The X.Org Foundation
vendor release number:    12101003
X.Org version: 1.21.1.3
maximum request size:  16777212 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
    depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
    depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
    depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  window 0x226, revert to Parent
number of extensions:    28
    BIG-REQUESTS
    Composite
    DAMAGE
    DOUBLE-BUFFER
    DPMS
    DRI2
    DRI3
    GLX
    Generic Event Extension
    MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
    MIT-SHM
    Present
    RANDR
    RECORD
    RENDER
    SECURITY
    SHAPE
    SYNC
    X-Resource
    XC-MISC
    XFIXES
    XFree86-DGA
    XFree86-VidModeExtension
    XINERAMA
    XInputExtension
    XKEYBOARD
    XTEST
    XVideo
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
  dimensions:    6000x1440 pixels (1587x381 millimeters)
  resolution:    96x96 dots per inch
  depths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
  root window id:    0x5da
  depth of root window:    24 planes
  number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
  default colormap:    0x20



Merci de vos suggestions.


Librement

--
Basile Starynkevitch
(only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement)
92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France
web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/

AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning
Thank You.

"> When upgrading fromn Debian-10 to-11, pay attention, that the sources.list
> have been changed in Debian-11! Please check the manual!"

We did it.

As Hans wrote
Is the system to much destroyed?

Regards
Sophie




Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. April 2022 20:56
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linus...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 04:53:44PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good afternoon
>
> Thank You.
>
> Yes
> There is Kernel panic.
>
> So I do boot again in recovery.
>
>
> I ll send these 4 Files.
> I ll open them with leafpad.
>
> All logfiles are below /var/log/ , most interesting files are kern.log,
> syslog, Xorg.0.log and maybe also daemon.log.
>
> How cam  I control the packages?
>
> I think we do user Debian stable.
>
> 32 bit.
>
>
> Because 9 to 10
> had this problem,
> we did update 10 to 11.
> Same problem.
>
> What did we do?
>
> Edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list using a text editor and replace each 
> instance of stretch with buster.
> Update the packages index on Debian Linux, run:
> sudo apt update
> Prepare for the operating system upgrade, run:
> sudo apt upgrade
> Finally, update Debian 9 to Debian 10 buster by running:
> sudo apt full-upgrade
>
> Regards
> Sophie
>
> Thank You
>

Hello Sophie,

Ah, OK. The machine you have - what computer is it?

How much memory?

There are a few steps:

First of all, if you can access the mahine through recovery:

Can you show us _exactly_ what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list now.

Can you run

uname -a

And show us what kernel is running, please?

Can you run

cat /etc/debian_version

and show us what version is displayed, please.

---

>From  8 to 9

You changed /etc/apt/sources.list

Ran apt update ; apt upgrade ; apt full-upgrade

Did you reboot and check to see that the machine came up with the new version?

---

>From 9 to 10

Did you do the same?

---

At what point did it stop booting:

do you see any message on the screen?

do you have a blank screen?

does the keyboard work?

---

If you can split down to the simplest steps and tell me as if I am 3 years
old, it will help :)

With every good wish,

Andy Cater

>
> 
> Von: Hans 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. April 2022 12:03
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linus...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot
>
> Am Sonntag, 24. April 2022, 09:47:59 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
> Hi Sophie,
>
> maybe you could specify, what is crashing.
>
> Is it the kernel itself (kernel panic) ?
>
> Or does X not start and you are finished with the prompt?
>
> If X is not starting, then you get a problem with the graphics driver. If so,
> we need to know, what hardware you are using (the command lspci should show
> you).
>
>
> If the kernel itself is crashing, then we need to know, which kernel it is
> installalled.
>
> All logfiles are below /var/log/ , most interesting files are kern.log,
> syslog, Xorg.0.log and maybe also daemon.log.
>
> If some other thing is crashing during boot, make sure, all packages, which
> are new, are correctly configured and all dependencies are met.
>
> I suppose, you are using debian/stable. Do not interfere with testing or
> unstable!
>
> Besides: The actual debian version is Debian-11, I suppose, when Debian-10 is
> running you will upgrade to Debian-11.
>
> When upgrading fromn Debian-10 to-11, pay attention, that the sources.list
> have been changed in Debian-11! Please check the manual!
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best regards
>
> Hans
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Good morning
> >
> > What did we do:
> > Update Debian 9 to 10,
> > boot: Crash.
> >
> > What did we do wrong.
> > Where does Linux create a logfile to send it to You find the bug.
> >
> > What we can do:
> > We do boot with the recovery mode.
> >
> > Regards
> > Sophie
>
>
>
>

AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linus...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning.
Thank You.

I did understand

a lot of the system is destroyed.

Is hardware destroyed?
Is software destroyed?

Can Debian repair it?
Can Knoppix repair it?


Its a Desktop PC.
Made for WIN.

But we did only install Debian.
Before we used avidemux
but to often the update crashed.


Regards
Sophie






Von: Hans 
Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 07:07
An: Debian-user List Debian 
Cc: Schwibinger Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linus...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot 
boot


Am Sonntag, 24. April 2022, 18:53:44 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:

Hello,


first of all, I believe, your hardddrive is corrupt. You should do a filesystem 
check, maybe withj a livefile system like Knoppix or similar.


>From the log:




Apr 24 17:02:52 ah kernel: [40646.269895]  sdb: sdb1

Apr 24 17:02:52 ah kernel: [40646.274262] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI 
removable disk

Apr 24 17:02:52 ah kernel: [40646.718406] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not 
properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467209] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED 
Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467221] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : 
Not Ready [current]

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467228] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: 
Medium not present

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467240] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 
28 00 00 00 04 20 00 00 08 00

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467243] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev 
sdb, sector 1056

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507341] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED 
Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507352] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : 
Not Ready [current]

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507364] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: 
Medium not present

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507368] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 
28 00 00 00 04 20 00 00 08 00

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507371] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev 
sdb, sector 1056

Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507374] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical 
block 128, async page read

Apr 24 17:04:29 ah kernel: [40743.517610] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, device 
number 4



and this:

Apr 24 21:57:43 ah kernel: [58337.363585] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI 
removable disk

Apr 24 21:57:43 ah kernel: [58337.638502] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not 
properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.

Apr 24 22:02:24 ah kernel: [58618.435420] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED 
Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE

Apr 24 22:02:24 ah kernel: [58618.435432] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : 
Not Ready [current]

Apr 24 22:02:24 ah kernel: [58618.435439] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: 
Medium not present





Secondary, I believe, youre hardware is a netbook. Your harddrive is only 64GB 
and this line (but here I am really not sure):


Apr 24 19:26:13 ah kernel: [49247.171760] [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] 
*ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe A (start=2954506 end=2954507) time 180 
us, min 1017, max 1023, scanline start 1014, end 1026


Atomic sounds like Intel Atomic CPU.




Further investigation shows, you have an Intel hardware, and your graphics card 
is an I915 chip by Intel. This is supported by the kernel itself, but as far as 
I remember, you need the package "xserver-xorg-intel".





However, the main reason, why it may crash, might be the corrupted harddrive. 
This would be the first point, I would fix.


Download some livelinux image like Knoppix, TRK, GRML, R.I.P. or Debian Live, 
whatever, create a bootable device and boot from it.


Then you can filescheck your harddrive.




Another thing, I wondered: Do you have two harddrives in your computer? The log 
shows sdb, but the first drive should be sda.


Also it shows, that the filesystem is FAT, but should be ext2, ext3 or ext4.


Please recheck.




Can not say any more at the moment, maybe it helps either.


Good luck!


Hans

dpkg-sig --verify in dpkg 1.21.1

[Sergio]

Hi, the --verify option of dpkg-sig does not recognize .zst compression 
of control and data files. So the verification of a signature fails, 
even though the signature is okay.


The problem seems to be in this code in /usr/bin/dpkg-sig:

return "FORCE_BAD" unless ($seen_files{'debian-binary'} &&
    ($seen_files{'control.tar'} || 
$seen_files{'control.tar.gz'} || $seen_files{'control.tar.xz'}) &&
    ($seen_files{'data.tar'} || $seen_files{'data.tar.gz'} || 
$seen_files{'data.tar.xz'} || $seen_files{'data.tar.bz2'} || 
$seen_files{'data.tar.lzma'}));


It doesn't account for control.tar.zst and data.tar.zst, which in dpkg 
1.21.1 is the default compression method.


If I use in debian/rules:

override_dh_builddeb:
    dh_builddeb -- -Zxz

Then it works fine because it forces dbkg-deb to not use zstd. However 
then lintian complains:


debian-rules-should-not-use-custom-compression-settings

and then I have to suppress this.

I guess my question is if this is a bug, or if my solution here is 
acceptable.


Best,

Sergio

Re: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linus...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot

[Hans]

Am Sonntag, 24. April 2022, 18:53:44 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
Hello,

first of all, I believe, your hardddrive is corrupt. You should do a filesystem 
check, maybe withj a 
livefile system like Knoppix or similar.

>From the log:



Apr 24 17:02:52 ah kernel: [40646.269895]  sdb: sdb1
Apr 24 17:02:52 ah kernel: [40646.274262] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI 
removable disk
Apr 24 17:02:52 ah kernel: [40646.718406] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not 
properly unmounted. 
Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467209] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED 
Result: 
hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467221] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : 
Not Ready 
[current]
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467228] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: 
Medium not 
present
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467240] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 
28 00 00 00 
04 20 00 00 08 00
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.467243] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev 
sdb, sector 1056
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507341] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED 
Result: 
hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507352] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : 
Not Ready 
[current]
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507364] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: 
Medium not 
present
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507368] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 
28 00 00 00 
04 20 00 00 08 00
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507371] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev 
sdb, sector 1056
Apr 24 17:04:14 ah kernel: [40728.507374] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical 
block 128, 
async page read
Apr 24 17:04:29 ah kernel: [40743.517610] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, device 
number 4


and this:
Apr 24 21:57:43 ah kernel: [58337.363585] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI 
removable disk
Apr 24 21:57:43 ah kernel: [58337.638502] FAT-fs (sdb1):* Volume was not 
properly unmounted. 
Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.*
Apr 24 22:02:24 ah kernel: [58618.435420] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED 
Result: 
hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
Apr 24 22:02:24 ah kernel: [58618.435432] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : 
Not Ready 
[current]
Apr 24 22:02:24 ah kernel: [58618.435439] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: 
Medium not 
present




Secondary, I believe, youre hardware is a netbook. Your harddrive is only 64GB 
and this line (but 
here I am really not sure):

Apr 24 19:26:13 ah kernel: [49247.171760] [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] 
*ERROR* Atomic 
update failure on pipe A (start=2954506 end=2954507) time 180 us, min 1017, max 
1023, 
scanline start 1014, end 1026

Atomic sounds like Intel Atomic CPU.



Further investigation shows, you have an Intel hardware, and your graphics card 
is an I915 chip 
by Intel. This is supported by the kernel itself, but as far as I remember, you 
need the package 
"xserver-xorg-intel".




However, the main reason, why it may crash, might be the corrupted harddrive. 
This would be 
the first point, I would fix.

Download some livelinux image like Knoppix, TRK, GRML, R.I.P. or Debian Live, 
whatever, create 
a bootable device and boot from it.

Then you can filescheck your harddrive.



Another thing, I wondered: Do you have two harddrives in your computer? The log 
shows sdb, 
but the first drive should be sda. 

Also it shows, that the filesystem is FAT, but should be ext2, ext3 or ext4.

Please recheck.



Can not say any more at the moment, maybe it helps either.

Good luck!

Hans