Re: New Default Theme? not yet
Hi Tim, I fixed this at r765721 but for FF3. Please see my comment in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2303 About smoothfeather as the default theme : if we want to do that correctly we need to treat each theme equally. For the moment the std theme is considered as superior to the other themes. It's not exactly what it should be : a default changeable easily from scratch by a parameter. So we need to extract the std theme and to make it a theme like the others, and the default OOTB (so far). I don't give all details but this means to have a new std layout theme under the /themes directory Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com From: Tim Ruppert tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel free to just fix that one straight away. I will see that when I wil get a chance Jacques
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
Jacques Le Roux wrote: So we need to extract the std theme and to make it a theme like the others, and the default OOTB (so far). I don't give all details but this means to have a new std layout theme under the /themes directory I was thinking about that the other day. I'd like to see the current default theme moved to the themes folder. -Adrian
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
Actually the things that IMO are missing are * The ASF copyright and link to a apache.org site * Powered by OFBiz and link to ofbiz.apache.org * Release.revision informations Only the last is mandatory IMO, but I'm not sure about ASF copyright and a link to OFBiz site would be cool But maybe they are somewhere and I did not find them (do you hate footers ? ;o) ? With the update today all issues below are still there For favicon.png I think it should be favicon.ico by the way (did not look into detail but that how it works normally, this was introduced by M$ if I recall well, hence the .ico) Also sometimes on XP using FF3 (a pretty classic set I'd say) I get myself stuck, the UI is not responding anymore. I got this issue at least after trying to change themes. Jacques From: Ryan Foster ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue. Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more logically in the header. For instance, the secondary apps have been grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and language. The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate, having several errors. Ryan Foster HotWax Media 801.671.0769 ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: So far, I found also that : * there is no footer anymore * an issue with favicon.png. * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working. * the log in webtools is no longer colored * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view HTH Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com I agree with Hans, From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax... 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read. Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like Main applications Secondary applications, maybe 2 colors also ? This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o) Yes thank you for that ! Jacques Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression. Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme). One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet). Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes). BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the release branch next Tuesday. -David -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
Inline Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 - Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote: Actually the things that IMO are missing are * The ASF copyright and link to a apache.org site * Powered by OFBiz and link to ofbiz.apache.org * Release.revision informations Only the last is mandatory IMO, but I'm not sure about ASF copyright and a link to OFBiz site would be cool But maybe they are somewhere and I did not find them (do you hate footers ? ;o) ? My personal vote is to get a footer that has at least the bottom one because it's super important information and that's where people have become accustomed to looking for it. As for the ASF copyright and the OFBiz logo - those need to be there, but I'm not sure the footer is ever the best place for that. Designers, what do you think on the placement now that you know that people would like to see it back? With the update today all issues below are still there For favicon.png I think it should be favicon.ico by the way (did not look into detail but that how it works normally, this was introduced by M$ if I recall well, hence the .ico) The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel free to just fix that one straight away. Also sometimes on XP using FF3 (a pretty classic set I'd say) I get myself stuck, the UI is not responding anymore. I got this issue at least after trying to change themes. Hmm - try loading it up locally with this as the default theme and see if it's the theme itself or just the JS and CSS getting confused when it switches. Jacques From: Ryan Foster ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue. Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more logically in the header. For instance, the secondary apps have been grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and language. The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate, having several errors. Ryan Foster HotWax Media 801.671.0769 ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: So far, I found also that : * there is no footer anymore * an issue with favicon.png. * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working. * the log in webtools is no longer colored * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view HTH Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com I agree with Hans, From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax... 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read. Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like Main applications Secondary applications, maybe 2 colors also ? This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o) Yes thank you for that ! Jacques Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression.
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
From: Tim Ruppert tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel free to just fix that one straight away. I will see that when I wil get a chance Jacques
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
From: Ryan Foster No, I don't hate footers ;). The originally thinking was to give the backend look and feel a more desktop like feeling, where most of the information and navigation is located in sidebars, file menus, tabs, etc. Following that line of thinking, maybe we put a help link in the header right next to preferences that drops down in a similar fashion to show copyright, link to apache, etc. This would function exactly the same way that the help link functions in apps like Firefox, Mac Mail, Outlook, Word, etc. We could even put a simple keyword search field in this section that searches docs.ofbiz.org. See the screenshot below for an example: Ryan Foster ___ Hi Ryan, Yes great idea, I like it :o) There are still issues related to font sizes, but clearly people not involved in previous UI developments (who have an exernal look) prefer far more the new one (more easy to read they say). Even in the order view case which was a problem for me (is still but I have to get used to I guess ;o). BTW, I opened a Jira issue for the small issues I found in Confluence so far https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2298 Thanks Jacques
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
So far, I found also that : * there is no footer anymore * an issue with favicon.png. * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working. * the log in webtools is no longer colored * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view HTH Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com I agree with Hans, From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax... 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read. Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like Main applications Secondary applications, maybe 2 colors also ? This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o) Yes thank you for that ! Jacques Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression. Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme). One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet). Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes). BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the release branch next Tuesday. -David -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
I think we need to find a way to honor all of the significant contributors to OFBiz. The good initial discussions from ApacheCon need to be fleshed out further. We can continue to very positively impact the look and feel of the system and we would prefer not to keep those innovations to ourselves. We must be sure that people understand that the new look and feel is our work. An improved OFBiz look and feel is a big competitive advantage and we want to get some value out of bringing it to the community. Your project management work is very much the same thing as are the many, many contributions of HotWax. We need to find a way to reward these major enhancements and protect their value for the donors. None of this is new to Apache, which has many major organizations and vendors making donations to it. Their conservative position with regard to credit is probably born of experience and I am curious about their advice. At the same time, there is some irony that the Apache license is primarily concerned with giving credit to the Apache Project when the code is used. - Hans Bakker wrote: Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com e...@brainfood.com - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue. Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more logically in the header. For instance, the secondary apps have been grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and language. The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate, having several errors. Ryan Foster HotWax Media 801.671.0769 ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: So far, I found also that : * there is no footer anymore * an issue with favicon.png. * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working. * the log in webtools is no longer colored * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view HTH Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com I agree with Hans, From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax... 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read. Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like Main applications Secondary applications, maybe 2 colors also ? This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o) Yes thank you for that ! Jacques Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression. Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme). One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet). Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes). BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the release branch next Tuesday. -David -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
Fost, we do need to get all of those references to HOTWAX out of this theme - but that was an oversight not a marketing ploy :) Looking forward to getting this all resolved, but I don't think any of these things should stop us from using this one - only encourage everyone to make it better! Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 - Ryan Foster ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote: I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue. Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more logically in the header. For instance, the secondary apps have been grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and language. The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate, having several errors. Ryan Foster HotWax Media 801.671.0769 ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: So far, I found also that : * there is no footer anymore * an issue with favicon.png. * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working. * the log in webtools is no longer colored * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view HTH Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com I agree with Hans, From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax... 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read. Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like Main applications Secondary applications, maybe 2 colors also ? This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o) Yes thank you for that ! Jacques Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression. Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme). One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet). Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes). BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the release branch next Tuesday. -David -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
Great points all around Ean. While we love to contribute and while this look and feel has taken things forward in a major way - so do the contributions of everyone in the community. Looking forward to finding fun ways to incentivize more contribution and more acknowledgement for all of those involved. This community is stellar - looking forward to being a part of it as it continues to grow and becomes even better than it is today. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 - Ean Schuessler e...@brainfood.com wrote: I think we need to find a way to honor all of the significant contributors to OFBiz. The good initial discussions from ApacheCon need to be fleshed out further. We can continue to very positively impact the look and feel of the system and we would prefer not to keep those innovations to ourselves. We must be sure that people understand that the new look and feel is our work. An improved OFBiz look and feel is a big competitive advantage and we want to get some value out of bringing it to the community. Your project management work is very much the same thing as are the many, many contributions of HotWax. We need to find a way to reward these major enhancements and protect their value for the donors. None of this is new to Apache, which has many major organizations and vendors making donations to it. Their conservative position with regard to credit is probably born of experience and I am curious about their advice. At the same time, there is some irony that the Apache license is primarily concerned with giving credit to the Apache Project when the code is used. - Hans Bakker wrote: Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com e...@brainfood.com - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
The references have been removed and the patch was sent to David. Ryan Foster HotWax Media 801.671.0769 ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: Fost, we do need to get all of those references to HOTWAX out of this theme - but that was an oversight not a marketing ploy :) Looking forward to getting this all resolved, but I don't think any of these things should stop us from using this one - only encourage everyone to make it better! Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 - Ryan Foster ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote: I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue. Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more logically in the header. For instance, the secondary apps have been grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and language. The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate, having several errors. Ryan Foster HotWax Media 801.671.0769 ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: So far, I found also that : * there is no footer anymore * an issue with favicon.png. * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working. * the log in webtools is no longer colored * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view HTH Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com I agree with Hans, From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax... 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read. Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like Main applications Secondary applications, maybe 2 colors also ? This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o) Yes thank you for that ! Jacques Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression. Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme). One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet). Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes). BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the release branch next Tuesday. -David -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
Awesome - thanks for the follow up. I think it got patched up earlier, so it's probably just waiting on the commit (if it's not in there already). Good stuff. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 - Ryan Foster ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote: The references have been removed and the patch was sent to David. Ryan Foster HotWax Media 801.671.0769 ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: Fost, we do need to get all of those references to HOTWAX out of this theme - but that was an oversight not a marketing ploy :) Looking forward to getting this all resolved, but I don't think any of these things should stop us from using this one - only encourage everyone to make it better! Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 - Ryan Foster ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote: I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue. Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more logically in the header. For instance, the secondary apps have been grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and language. The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate, having several errors. Ryan Foster HotWax Media 801.671.0769 ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: So far, I found also that : * there is no footer anymore * an issue with favicon.png. * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working. * the log in webtools is no longer colored * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view HTH Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com I agree with Hans, From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax... 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read. Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like Main applications Secondary applications, maybe 2 colors also ? This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o) Yes thank you for that ! Jacques Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression. Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme). One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet). Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
I agree with Hans, From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax... 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read. Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like Main applications Secondary applications, maybe 2 colors also ? This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o) Yes thank you for that ! Jacques Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression. Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme). One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet). Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes). BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the release branch next Tuesday. -David -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: New Default Theme? not yet
Hi David, from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic. after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ? 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you! Regards, Hans On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote: Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression. Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme). One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet). Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes). BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the release branch next Tuesday. -David -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
