Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Posting regularly on blog
The more, the merrier Elliot. I've just added you to the blog user list as an author. --Jean On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 23:40 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Could it be four contributors including me? I'd love to help out however possible. Having only just signed up for the email list, I'm a little unsure where to begin helping. Blogging sounds doable. My wordpress account is timtoe. Please, put me to work! ~Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:54 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: We're off to a good start thanks to Jean for setting up the blog on libodocs.wordpress.com. I would like to see the blog have regular updates. A post or two every so often. I don't think we have enough contributors right now for a daily post but we can certainly do one per week to start. Between the four of us on the blog as of now, that is one post per month. We must recruit more contributors, even guest posts. Anyone know any celebrities? The posts do not have to be long, maybe one paragraph giving one tip for one feature of LibO that we use or that may not be obvious to the new user. If we stick to a schedule and our blog is regularly updated, constantly changing with something new, I'm sure we would attract an audience. That plus marketing the blog in our email signatures both personal and social network, will get us noticed. What do you think? *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* Actually there are only three of us on the blog right now, so it's even more important to have others contributing. So please join us! Even if you're an inexperienced writer, don't feel shy -- it's a great way to get some practice before launching into something longer and more ambitious. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Posting regularly on blog
Go ahead and add me too, Jean. My Wordpress account name is Loquacity. L On 05/12/2011 04:00 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: The more, the merrier Elliot. I've just added you to the blog user list as an author. --Jean On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 23:40 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Could it be four contributors including me? I'd love to help out however possible. Having only just signed up for the email list, I'm a little unsure where to begin helping. Blogging sounds doable. My wordpress account is timtoe. Please, put me to work! ~Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Hollis Weberjeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:54 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: We're off to a good start thanks to Jean for setting up the blog on libodocs.wordpress.com. I would like to see the blog have regular updates. A post or two every so often. I don't think we have enough contributors right now for a daily post but we can certainly do one per week to start. Between the four of us on the blog as of now, that is one post per month. We must recruit more contributors, even guest posts. Anyone know any celebrities? The posts do not have to be long, maybe one paragraph giving one tip for one feature of LibO that we use or that may not be obvious to the new user. If we stick to a schedule and our blog is regularly updated, constantly changing with something new, I'm sure we would attract an audience. That plus marketing the blog in our email signatures both personal and social network, will get us noticed. What do you think? *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* Actually there are only three of us on the blog right now, so it's even more important to have others contributing. So please join us! Even if you're an inexperienced writer, don't feel shy -- it's a great way to get some practice before launching into something longer and more ambitious. --Jean -- Lana Brindley Content Author Engineering Content Services +61 7 3514 8178 - ext (85) 88178 RHEL5 RHCT: 605008757717273 RHEL5 RHCSA: 100-043-694 See first that the design is wise and just: that ascertained, pursue it resolutely; do not for one repulse forego the purpose that you resolved to effect. William Shakespeare, on why planning is important. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Posting regularly on blog
Thanks, Jean. I'll have to review the documentation we already have and brainstorm some ideas. As for right now, John makes a brilliant point about pushing the blog in other social media outlets. I'm assuming the people in marketing are in charge of updating Twitter. Is the official account @docufoundation or @librofficenews? I don't see a tweet for our latest post at either. And both facebook pages don't have newsfeeds, which could really help us out. How do we contact them to let them know about the blog? ~Tim Elliot Turner On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: The more, the merrier Elliot. I've just added you to the blog user list as an author. --Jean On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 23:40 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Could it be four contributors including me? I'd love to help out however possible. Having only just signed up for the email list, I'm a little unsure where to begin helping. Blogging sounds doable. My wordpress account is timtoe. Please, put me to work! ~Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:54 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: We're off to a good start thanks to Jean for setting up the blog on libodocs.wordpress.com. I would like to see the blog have regular updates. A post or two every so often. I don't think we have enough contributors right now for a daily post but we can certainly do one per week to start. Between the four of us on the blog as of now, that is one post per month. We must recruit more contributors, even guest posts. Anyone know any celebrities? The posts do not have to be long, maybe one paragraph giving one tip for one feature of LibO that we use or that may not be obvious to the new user. If we stick to a schedule and our blog is regularly updated, constantly changing with something new, I'm sure we would attract an audience. That plus marketing the blog in our email signatures both personal and social network, will get us noticed. What do you think? *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* Actually there are only three of us on the blog right now, so it's even more important to have others contributing. So please join us! Even if you're an inexperienced writer, don't feel shy -- it's a great way to get some practice before launching into something longer and more ambitious. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Posting regularly on blog
The individual posts have Twitter and Facebook Share buttons on them, but I don't know anything about the two Twitter accounts you mention (sorry, I just haven't paid attention to that side of things). Our blog entries do turn up in the TDF Planet -- although when I checked just now, the latest isn't there. In fact, nothing for yesterday or today is there, so the Planet aggregator must be running behind. I don't have time to pursue the social media myself, but John's been asking other questions on, I think, the Marketing list, so he or you could ask there about what to do... if no one from that side of things pops up here with the answer. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 00:38 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Thanks, Jean. I'll have to review the documentation we already have and brainstorm some ideas. As for right now, John makes a brilliant point about pushing the blog in other social media outlets. I'm assuming the people in marketing are in charge of updating Twitter. Is the official account @docufoundation or @librofficenews? I don't see a tweet for our latest post at either. And both facebook pages don't have newsfeeds, which could really help us out. How do we contact them to let them know about the blog? ~Tim Elliot Turner On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: The more, the merrier Elliot. I've just added you to the blog user list as an author. --Jean On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 23:40 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Could it be four contributors including me? I'd love to help out however possible. Having only just signed up for the email list, I'm a little unsure where to begin helping. Blogging sounds doable. My wordpress account is timtoe. Please, put me to work! ~Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:54 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: We're off to a good start thanks to Jean for setting up the blog on libodocs.wordpress.com. I would like to see the blog have regular updates. A post or two every so often. I don't think we have enough contributors right now for a daily post but we can certainly do one per week to start. Between the four of us on the blog as of now, that is one post per month. We must recruit more contributors, even guest posts. Anyone know any celebrities? The posts do not have to be long, maybe one paragraph giving one tip for one feature of LibO that we use or that may not be obvious to the new user. If we stick to a schedule and our blog is regularly updated, constantly changing with something new, I'm sure we would attract an audience. That plus marketing the blog in our email signatures both personal and social network, will get us noticed. What do you think? *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* Actually there are only three of us on the blog right now, so it's even more important to have others contributing. So please join us! Even if you're an inexperienced writer, don't feel shy -- it's a great way to get some practice before launching into something longer and more ambitious. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Posting regularly on blog
I completely understand that you're busy, John. With that in mind, thanks especially for helping me get a foot in the water. I've subscribed to the other mailing list and will start figuring out... everything from there. In the meantime, if there is a member with the time to serve in the capacity as a mentor I could really use some reading material or direction in order to get started. You may contact me directly at sf.freela...@gmail.com, as I'd rather not further clutter this mailing list. Thanks in advance! ~Tim Elliot Turner On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: The individual posts have Twitter and Facebook Share buttons on them, but I don't know anything about the two Twitter accounts you mention (sorry, I just haven't paid attention to that side of things). Our blog entries do turn up in the TDF Planet -- although when I checked just now, the latest isn't there. In fact, nothing for yesterday or today is there, so the Planet aggregator must be running behind. I don't have time to pursue the social media myself, but John's been asking other questions on, I think, the Marketing list, so he or you could ask there about what to do... if no one from that side of things pops up here with the answer. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 00:38 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Thanks, Jean. I'll have to review the documentation we already have and brainstorm some ideas. As for right now, John makes a brilliant point about pushing the blog in other social media outlets. I'm assuming the people in marketing are in charge of updating Twitter. Is the official account @docufoundation or @librofficenews? I don't see a tweet for our latest post at either. And both facebook pages don't have newsfeeds, which could really help us out. How do we contact them to let them know about the blog? ~Tim Elliot Turner On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: The more, the merrier Elliot. I've just added you to the blog user list as an author. --Jean On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 23:40 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Could it be four contributors including me? I'd love to help out however possible. Having only just signed up for the email list, I'm a little unsure where to begin helping. Blogging sounds doable. My wordpress account is timtoe. Please, put me to work! ~Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:54 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: We're off to a good start thanks to Jean for setting up the blog on libodocs.wordpress.com. I would like to see the blog have regular updates. A post or two every so often. I don't think we have enough contributors right now for a daily post but we can certainly do one per week to start. Between the four of us on the blog as of now, that is one post per month. We must recruit more contributors, even guest posts. Anyone know any celebrities? The posts do not have to be long, maybe one paragraph giving one tip for one feature of LibO that we use or that may not be obvious to the new user. If we stick to a schedule and our blog is regularly updated, constantly changing with something new, I'm sure we would attract an audience. That plus marketing the blog in our email signatures both personal and social network, will get us noticed. What do you think? *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* Actually there are only three of us on the blog right now, so it's even more important to have others contributing. So please join us! Even if you're an inexperienced writer, don't feel shy -- it's a great way to get some practice before launching into something longer and more ambitious. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Template for compiled user guides
I have put in the English Resources folder a template to be used when creating a compiled user guide or its master document. The formatting of a few styles is slightly different from the formatting of the same styles in the chapters, the footer contents are a bit different, and I forget what the other differences are... small but they make the book work better. Most of you won't be compiling books, so you won't need to be concerned about this template. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters. If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco. The master document and all the chapters are in English Documentation Calc Guide Reviewed. Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions. What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't be alone! --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
Hi I am willing to do this. Are there any instructions other than in the email. Regards John Connected by MOTOBLUR™ -Original message- From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters. If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco. The master document and all the chapters are in English Documentation Calc Guide Reviewed. Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions. What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't be alone! --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
Thank you!! for taking this on. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 21:10 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing... are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory settings. --Jean On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote: Hi I am willing to do this. Are there any instructions other than in the email. Regards John -Original message- From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters. If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco. The master document and all the chapters are in English Documentation Calc Guide Reviewed. Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions. What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't be alone! --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Posting regularly on blog
A few good points were made in this thread. I can see we're going to need a project list. LOL. The expert in this thread about writing for LibO, documentation, etc is Jean. She has the experience coming from the OpenOffice.org project. So for all the technical points and how to use the templates already available I defer to her. As for writing in general, it isn't that hard. You talk to your friends, right? Well writing is just like talking to your friends. Talk to your friends, they are your audience. Type up your conversation as you are having it. Afterwards, when it is finished, go over it again. Correct the typos, spelling errors and grammar. Delete the expletives. Now ask yourself, Does it still make sense?; Does it still flow?; Does it sound like you?; Do you want your name associated with this? That's writing. Marketing is another matter altogether. Marketing is knowing who you are speaking to. I would prefer not to create assignments; you write about this, I'll write about that, and they can write about the other thing. If there is a part about LibreOffice that you use alot, a little thing that you had to figure out how to do that you may do differently in other office suites, write about that. Write about something that you do, that interests you. The good thing about blog posts is, they don't have to be long. A paragraph or two can suffice. OH, there I go again. Suffice, a perfectly good word but is it appropriate. Always keep an eye to marketing. We still haven't figured out our audience on the blog. We have few posts and only spam comments so far. I agree it might be good to have blog posts listed in the social media. That is good but not good enough. The people that follow TheDocumentFoundation and LibreOffice on Twitter and Facebook are the choir. They already know about us and probably use LibreOffice. We need to get the word out to the general public. Post about our new blog posts on our own social media pages. That will increase our visibility. *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.comwrote: I completely understand that you're busy, John. With that in mind, thanks especially for helping me get a foot in the water. I've subscribed to the other mailing list and will start figuring out... everything from there. In the meantime, if there is a member with the time to serve in the capacity as a mentor I could really use some reading material or direction in order to get started. You may contact me directly at sf.freela...@gmail.com, as I'd rather not further clutter this mailing list. Thanks in advance! ~Tim Elliot Turner On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: The individual posts have Twitter and Facebook Share buttons on them, but I don't know anything about the two Twitter accounts you mention (sorry, I just haven't paid attention to that side of things). Our blog entries do turn up in the TDF Planet -- although when I checked just now, the latest isn't there. In fact, nothing for yesterday or today is there, so the Planet aggregator must be running behind. I don't have time to pursue the social media myself, but John's been asking other questions on, I think, the Marketing list, so he or you could ask there about what to do... if no one from that side of things pops up here with the answer. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 00:38 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Thanks, Jean. I'll have to review the documentation we already have and brainstorm some ideas. As for right now, John makes a brilliant point about pushing the blog in other social media outlets. I'm assuming the people in marketing are in charge of updating Twitter. Is the official account @docufoundation or @librofficenews? I don't see a tweet for our latest post at either. And both facebook pages don't have newsfeeds, which could really help us out. How do we contact them to let them know about the blog? ~Tim Elliot Turner On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: The more, the merrier Elliot. I've just added you to the blog user list as an author. --Jean On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 23:40 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Could it be four contributors including me? I'd love to help out however possible. Having only just signed up for the email list, I'm a little unsure where to begin helping. Blogging sounds doable. My wordpress account is timtoe. Please, put me to work! ~Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:54 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: We're off to a good start thanks to Jean for setting up the blog on libodocs.wordpress.com. I would like to see the blog
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Posting regularly on blog
Your last point makes a lot of sense, John. The people following those feeds are the choir, which is why we need to encourage them with something to sing about. If the information is already posted then all they have to do is press a button to RT or share that information. That going to really help visibility Like Jean already said, this is something for marketing. If I see that they haven't started it up once the blog gets going, I'll mention it in the mailing list. And thanks for the tips on getting the information down for a post. I'll definitely keep them in mind when I'm ready to start writing. I'm glad that there are so many experienced people already established here. It makes it all seem much less daunting. ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:36 AM, John Shabanowitz john...@gmail.com wrote: A few good points were made in this thread. I can see we're going to need a project list. LOL. The expert in this thread about writing for LibO, documentation, etc is Jean. She has the experience coming from the OpenOffice.org project. So for all the technical points and how to use the templates already available I defer to her. As for writing in general, it isn't that hard. You talk to your friends, right? Well writing is just like talking to your friends. Talk to your friends, they are your audience. Type up your conversation as you are having it. Afterwards, when it is finished, go over it again. Correct the typos, spelling errors and grammar. Delete the expletives. Now ask yourself, Does it still make sense?; Does it still flow?; Does it sound like you?; Do you want your name associated with this? That's writing. Marketing is another matter altogether. Marketing is knowing who you are speaking to. I would prefer not to create assignments; you write about this, I'll write about that, and they can write about the other thing. If there is a part about LibreOffice that you use alot, a little thing that you had to figure out how to do that you may do differently in other office suites, write about that. Write about something that you do, that interests you. The good thing about blog posts is, they don't have to be long. A paragraph or two can suffice. OH, there I go again. Suffice, a perfectly good word but is it appropriate. Always keep an eye to marketing. We still haven't figured out our audience on the blog. We have few posts and only spam comments so far. I agree it might be good to have blog posts listed in the social media. That is good but not good enough. The people that follow TheDocumentFoundation and LibreOffice on Twitter and Facebook are the choir. They already know about us and probably use LibreOffice. We need to get the word out to the general public. Post about our new blog posts on our own social media pages. That will increase our visibility. *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: I completely understand that you're busy, John. With that in mind, thanks especially for helping me get a foot in the water. I've subscribed to the other mailing list and will start figuring out... everything from there. In the meantime, if there is a member with the time to serve in the capacity as a mentor I could really use some reading material or direction in order to get started. You may contact me directly at sf.freela...@gmail.com, as I'd rather not further clutter this mailing list. Thanks in advance! ~Tim Elliot Turner On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: The individual posts have Twitter and Facebook Share buttons on them, but I don't know anything about the two Twitter accounts you mention (sorry, I just haven't paid attention to that side of things). Our blog entries do turn up in the TDF Planet -- although when I checked just now, the latest isn't there. In fact, nothing for yesterday or today is there, so the Planet aggregator must be running behind. I don't have time to pursue the social media myself, but John's been asking other questions on, I think, the Marketing list, so he or you could ask there about what to do... if no one from that side of things pops up here with the answer. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 00:38 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Thanks, Jean. I'll have to review the documentation we already have and brainstorm some ideas. As for right now, John makes a brilliant point about pushing the blog in other social media outlets. I'm assuming the people in marketing are in charge of updating Twitter. Is the official account @docufoundation or @librofficenews? I don't see a tweet for our latest post at either. And both facebook pages don't have newsfeeds, which could really help us out. How do we contact them to let them know about the blog? ~Tim
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
Hi Jean Can I have a login for Alfresco. I will download the guides. Thanks John -Original Message- From: Jean Weber Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM To: documentation@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing... are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory settings. --Jean On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote: Hi I am willing to do this. Are there any instructions other than in the email. Regards John -Original message- From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters. If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco. The master document and all the chapters are in English Documentation Calc Guide Reviewed. Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions. What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't be alone! --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.comwrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
Hi :) Could references to OOo and OpenOffice.org be removed fairly easily? I think that is one of our top priorities? If it can only be seen by the documentation team then it's less of an issue but if the general public can see it then it should go, if possible. Regards from Tom :) From: Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 15:28:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? Actually, I just noticed that the published document I'm working from as a template has the same issue. It's Chapter 7 Working With Styles, file 0207WG3 under the writing tuts. I'm seeing OOo and OpenOffice.org in some of the tabs and links for the screenshots. Is this an issue? On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.comwrote: I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.comwrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
Hi Tom :) What I am seeing is OOo specific images in documentation that is already published on the Libreoffice website. Before I say more, I'd like to add that I can see a lot of work has gone into documentation already, and I'm not simply criticizing that work but hoping to help improve upon it however I can. That said, take for example the first image of the Getting Started Guide: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/c/c2/0101GS3-IntroducingLibO.pdf. We have OOo icons in that very first image at page 9 while the rest of the screenshots have been updated for the file. In addition, several other files still have OOo branding in the screenshots. I would be happy to clean this up if the team deems it necessary. ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Could references to OOo and OpenOffice.org be removed fairly easily? I think that is one of our top priorities? If it can only be seen by the documentation team then it's less of an issue but if the general public can see it then it should go, if possible. Regards from Tom :) From: Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 15:28:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? Actually, I just noticed that the published document I'm working from as a template has the same issue. It's Chapter 7 Working With Styles, file 0207WG3 under the writing tuts. I'm seeing OOo and OpenOffice.org in some of the tabs and links for the screenshots. Is this an issue? On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
Hi :) It's not taken as criticism. The documentation team has been working hard and fast just to get documentation out there. There will be mistakes that need fixing and mostly those are ok for now. Branding is a fairly serious issue so it would be fantastic if you could fix it. Sometimes that is about all that there is time to do! The team is doing a great job but does appreciate help :) All good, nicely spotted :) Regards from Tom :) From: Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 16:09:54 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? Hi Tom :) What I am seeing is OOo specific images in documentation that is already published on the Libreoffice website. Before I say more, I'd like to add that I can see a lot of work has gone into documentation already, and I'm not simply criticizing that work but hoping to help improve upon it however I can. That said, take for example the first image of the Getting Started Guide: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/c/c2/0101GS3-IntroducingLibO.pdf. We have OOo icons in that very first image at page 9 while the rest of the screenshots have been updated for the file. In addition, several other files still have OOo branding in the screenshots. I would be happy to clean this up if the team deems it necessary. ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Could references to OOo and OpenOffice.org be removed fairly easily? I think that is one of our top priorities? If it can only be seen by the documentation team then it's less of an issue but if the general public can see it then it should go, if possible. Regards from Tom :) From: Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 15:28:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? Actually, I just noticed that the published document I'm working from as a template has the same issue. It's Chapter 7 Working With Styles, file 0207WG3 under the writing tuts. I'm seeing OOo and OpenOffice.org in some of the tabs and links for the screenshots. Is this an issue? On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be
[libreoffice-documentation] Marketing Team now has a blog.
I just thought I would leave a copy of this post that I wrote on the marketing list. Thanks to the Documentation team for inspiring us to setting up the blog on Wordpress. I also copied the introductory paragraph, theme and right column widgets from your blog as I thought it would add familiarity to the blogs for our visitors. Thanks Documentation team! === snip == During the last confcall, we discussed having a monthly [marketing] newsletter highlighting our accomplishments and news items related to LibreOffice marketing activities. Drew has graciously agreed to help out with this. Following the lead from the Documentation Team, there was also an attempt on my part to see if there was any interest in creating a blog site for our team. If there is an interest in maintaining a blog could we have a show of hands as to how many would be willing to help contribute to the blog? Always best if there are many contributors as this creates buzz around our product. In the meantime, I have created a blog site on the Wordpress site[1] where the Documentation Foundation and the new LibreOffice Documentation Team blogs are located. === snip == Cheers Marc [1] http://libomarketing.wordpress.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
Replacing the screenshots definitely needs to be done, either at this point or during the review to see what else may need to be changed because of differences between OOo Impress and LibO Impress. So please do so if you want to and have time. If you do replace screenshots, please note that we're avoiding taking them from Windows unless it's a Windows-specific screen or it's not evident which o/s the image is from -- most cropped images would fit in that category. Also note use of preferred icon set if icons are visible. Misc tips on anchoring and other image-related topics are in the doc on producing LibO user guides. I assume you have also replaced OpenOffice.org with LibreOffice in the text, and done the other items on the list of things in rebranding. Thanks for doing this! --Jean On 13/05/2011, at 0:22, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.comwrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
That was certainly an oversight if any remained in a published doc, and will need to be fixed in the next update. The Getting Started book in particular was done in a great rush and has far too many uncorrected images in it. If you want to start redoing them, you are very welcome to do so. --Jean On 13/05/2011, at 0:28, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I just noticed that the published document I'm working from as a template has the same issue. It's Chapter 7 Working With Styles, file 0207WG3 under the writing tuts. I'm seeing OOo and OpenOffice.org in some of the tabs and links for the screenshots. Is this an issue? On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.comwrote: I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.comwrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
Oh, there's a Resources section on Alfresco. Okay, I'll review the items you mentioned and redo the documents. Unfortunately I won't be able to do screenshots on anything other than Windows until I can switch to Linux. Someone else will need to take that torch if it needs to be done soon. Sorry. Thanks for the assist, Jean. :) ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: That was certainly an oversight if any remained in a published doc, and will need to be fixed in the next update. The Getting Started book in particular was done in a great rush and has far too many uncorrected images in it. If you want to start redoing them, you are very welcome to do so. --Jean On 13/05/2011, at 0:28, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I just noticed that the published document I'm working from as a template has the same issue. It's Chapter 7 Working With Styles, file 0207WG3 under the writing tuts. I'm seeing OOo and OpenOffice.org in some of the tabs and links for the screenshots. Is this an issue? On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
Done. A private message has been sent to you with your login details. Sorry about the delay; I'm in Australia, so the time difference gets in the way at times. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 14:28 +0100, John Cleland wrote: Hi Jean Can I have a login for Alfresco. I will download the guides. Thanks John -Original Message- From: Jean Weber Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM To: documentation@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing... are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory settings. --Jean On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote: Hi I am willing to do this. Are there any instructions other than in the email. Regards John -Original message- From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters. If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco. The master document and all the chapters are in English Documentation Calc Guide Reviewed. Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions. What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't be alone! --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
Ahh, so you have to write to us tomorrow for us to get it yesterday? ;) From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 13 May, 2011 0:59:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide Done. A private message has been sent to you with your login details. Sorry about the delay; I'm in Australia, so the time difference gets in the way at times. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 14:28 +0100, John Cleland wrote: Hi Jean Can I have a login for Alfresco. I will download the guides. Thanks John -Original Message- From: Jean Weber Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM To: documentation@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing... are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory settings. --Jean On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote: Hi I am willing to do this. Are there any instructions other than in the email. Regards John -Original message- From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters. If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English Resources on Alfresco. The master document and all the chapters are in English Documentation Calc Guide Reviewed. Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions. What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't be alone! --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
Two topics: (1) Impress Guide rebranding. Have you been using the Template Changer extension to assign the LibO template to the rebranded Impress Guide chapters? If not, please do that at some point. Assigning a template takes care of all the style changes, the footer on the copyright page, and other things, though a few items need to be done manually (like the cover page graphic). (2) Fixing published chapters of other books. If you work on the published books but can't do screenshots, you can insert a comment at each image you notice that needs to be replaced; that will help whoever does the screenshots. Please put the revised or annotated chapters into the Drafts space for the relevant book on Alfresco. You'll find some inconsistency in where the published chapters are stored on Alfresco, and what the file names are. (Writer Guide chapters are, I think, in the WG Reviewed space, not the Published space. Getting Started Guide chapters have interim file names, not the proper ones that you'll find on the wiki.) This is dpartly due ue to a combination of us making all this up as we go along and recovering from a crash, then not finding time to reorganise things properly. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 16:45 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Oh, there's a Resources section on Alfresco. Okay, I'll review the items you mentioned and redo the documents. Unfortunately I won't be able to do screenshots on anything other than Windows until I can switch to Linux. Someone else will need to take that torch if it needs to be done soon. Sorry. Thanks for the assist, Jean. :) ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: That was certainly an oversight if any remained in a published doc, and will need to be fixed in the next update. The Getting Started book in particular was done in a great rush and has far too many uncorrected images in it. If you want to start redoing them, you are very welcome to do so. --Jean On 13/05/2011, at 0:28, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I just noticed that the published document I'm working from as a template has the same issue. It's Chapter 7 Working With Styles, file 0207WG3 under the writing tuts. I'm seeing OOo and OpenOffice.org in some of the tabs and links for the screenshots. Is this an issue? On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Posting regularly on blog
Thanks, John. My experience and primary area of activity is with the user guides. Blogging is a bit different, as it allows more of a personal voice by the writer. You've described the blog writing style very well. We try to use a standard writing style in the user guides, but for a blog entry there's a lot more leeway, including which variation of English (US, UK, other) a writer feels most comfortable using. And I agree completely with your final paragraph. Readers of the blog (including others on this team) can use the share links (for Facebook and Twitter) to spread the word outside official channels, or share in other ways. BTW, we can add share buttons for other social media networks. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 08:36 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: A few good points were made in this thread. I can see we're going to need a project list. LOL. The expert in this thread about writing for LibO, documentation, etc is Jean. She has the experience coming from the OpenOffice.org project. So for all the technical points and how to use the templates already available I defer to her. As for writing in general, it isn't that hard. You talk to your friends, right? Well writing is just like talking to your friends. Talk to your friends, they are your audience. Type up your conversation as you are having it. Afterwards, when it is finished, go over it again. Correct the typos, spelling errors and grammar. Delete the expletives. Now ask yourself, Does it still make sense?; Does it still flow?; Does it sound like you?; Do you want your name associated with this? That's writing. Marketing is another matter altogether. Marketing is knowing who you are speaking to. I would prefer not to create assignments; you write about this, I'll write about that, and they can write about the other thing. If there is a part about LibreOffice that you use alot, a little thing that you had to figure out how to do that you may do differently in other office suites, write about that. Write about something that you do, that interests you. The good thing about blog posts is, they don't have to be long. A paragraph or two can suffice. OH, there I go again. Suffice, a perfectly good word but is it appropriate. Always keep an eye to marketing. We still haven't figured out our audience on the blog. We have few posts and only spam comments so far. I agree it might be good to have blog posts listed in the social media. That is good but not good enough. The people that follow TheDocumentFoundation and LibreOffice on Twitter and Facebook are the choir. They already know about us and probably use LibreOffice. We need to get the word out to the general public. Post about our new blog posts on our own social media pages. That will increase our visibility. *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.comwrote: I completely understand that you're busy, John. With that in mind, thanks especially for helping me get a foot in the water. I've subscribed to the other mailing list and will start figuring out... everything from there. In the meantime, if there is a member with the time to serve in the capacity as a mentor I could really use some reading material or direction in order to get started. You may contact me directly at sf.freela...@gmail.com, as I'd rather not further clutter this mailing list. Thanks in advance! ~Tim Elliot Turner -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On 05/13/2011 10:43 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I have created a bunch of Categories for the posts on our blog, and will add more as we think of them. Please assign categories to your posts to help people find them in future when we have a lot. You, or an editor or admin, can go back and add, remove, or change categories on individual posts later if necessary. Things I've been looking at are: * Announcement of new/updated books vs tips/howtos * Which component (Writer, Calc, Impress) * For tips/howtos, user level (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced) * LibreOffice release? Or are Categories old-fashioned and Tags should be used instead? I'm not sure. Indeed, I'm a bit vague on what the two are for. Not my area of expertise, but I'm trying to catch up! --Jean Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over the other. L -- Lana Brindley Content Author Engineering Content Services +61 7 3514 8178 - ext (85) 88178 RHEL5 RHCT: 605008757717273 RHEL5 RHCSA: 100-043-694 See first that the design is wise and just: that ascertained, pursue it resolutely; do not for one repulse forego the purpose that you resolved to effect. William Shakespeare, on why planning is important. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide?
(1) What I did do was overwrite the existing document's styles with the styles from a document that was already published. Since this didn't automatically adjust the footer, I'm going to redo it using the correct method just in case there are other things I've missed. Don't worry. I have a clear idea now of what I did incorrectly and what I need to do to fix it. Again, thank you. (2) LOL. Okay, I'll start working on that as well. ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Two topics: (1) Impress Guide rebranding. Have you been using the Template Changer extension to assign the LibO template to the rebranded Impress Guide chapters? If not, please do that at some point. Assigning a template takes care of all the style changes, the footer on the copyright page, and other things, though a few items need to be done manually (like the cover page graphic). (2) Fixing published chapters of other books. If you work on the published books but can't do screenshots, you can insert a comment at each image you notice that needs to be replaced; that will help whoever does the screenshots. Please put the revised or annotated chapters into the Drafts space for the relevant book on Alfresco. You'll find some inconsistency in where the published chapters are stored on Alfresco, and what the file names are. (Writer Guide chapters are, I think, in the WG Reviewed space, not the Published space. Getting Started Guide chapters have interim file names, not the proper ones that you'll find on the wiki.) This is dpartly due ue to a combination of us making all this up as we go along and recovering from a crash, then not finding time to reorganise things properly. --Jean On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 16:45 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: Oh, there's a Resources section on Alfresco. Okay, I'll review the items you mentioned and redo the documents. Unfortunately I won't be able to do screenshots on anything other than Windows until I can switch to Linux. Someone else will need to take that torch if it needs to be done soon. Sorry. Thanks for the assist, Jean. :) ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: That was certainly an oversight if any remained in a published doc, and will need to be fixed in the next update. The Getting Started book in particular was done in a great rush and has far too many uncorrected images in it. If you want to start redoing them, you are very welcome to do so. --Jean On 13/05/2011, at 0:28, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I just noticed that the published document I'm working from as a template has the same issue. It's Chapter 7 Working With Styles, file 0207WG3 under the writing tuts. I'm seeing OOo and OpenOffice.org in some of the tabs and links for the screenshots. Is this an issue? On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: I've already overwritten the styles, replaced the brands at the tops and deleted the footers on the second page. But does this project also include creating the new screenshots for the tuts? Many of them have OOo specific headings in their windows. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Elliot Turner sf.freela...@gmail.com wrote: This looks easy enough. I'll have it done later today. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 05:28 -0600, Elliot Turner wrote: I'm game. First though, I'll be needing an Alfresco account. No? Do you have the super powers to set that up, Jean? Sure do. And it's done. Look for private mail from me with login info, coming in a few minutes. --Jean ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: Is anyone working on rebranding the Impress Guide? We need *you*! This job is perfect for someone who doesn't feel knowledgeable enough to tackle writing just yet. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Rebranding the Impress Guide
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:20 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: (1) Impress Guide rebranding. Have you been using the Template Changer extension to assign the LibO template to the rebranded Impress Guide chapters? If not, please do that at some point. Assigning a template takes care of all the style changes, the footer on the copyright page, and other things, though a few items need to be done manually (like the cover page graphic). That last paragraph is a bit misleading. Other things don't get done automatically, for example the formatting of the Tip/Note/Caution tables. A fairly quick way to reformat these is to set up AutoFormats for those tables and apply those AutoFormats; this technique is explained in the Producing LibO User Guides document. Something I haven't had time to look into is whether the AutoFormats and AutoText can be shared easily among members of the team. Some things are stored in a template, so that's easy; but other things are local customisations of LibO itself. I know where the customisation files are stored, but haven't looked into the gotchas of sharing these files and how to get around those gotchas (if one can). If someone wants to look into this, please do! Hmmm... wonder if the old OOo Admin Guide covers this? And if it does, whether the info is correct for LibO? --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over the other. Is one or the other preferred for particular purposes? Or is it more that individual readers might prefer, or be more accustomed to using, one or the other? Which would be better for us to use on the blog? Or should we use both, to appeal to both user groups? My ignorance on this subject is so great that I have difficulty even asking an intelligent question! If anyone has a pointer to an explanation somewhere, that might help. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On 05/13/2011 11:17 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over the other. Is one or the other preferred for particular purposes? Or is it more that individual readers might prefer, or be more accustomed to using, one or the other? Which would be better for us to use on the blog? Or should we use both, to appeal to both user groups? My ignorance on this subject is so great that I have difficulty even asking an intelligent question! If anyone has a pointer to an explanation somewhere, that might help. --Jean Sorry, that was a very abrupt answer, wasn't it! I'm sure everyone uses these things differently, but on my own website, I use categories as a broad organisational structure, and tags as a more fine-tuned one. For example, an article about using fixed rows/columns in Calc might use the categories Calc and Help, and the tags Calc, Help, Formatting, Spreadsheet, and Rows/Columns. I present categories on my site as a list, and tags as a tag cloud. This gives two different methods of interaction for users. People can interact with whichever they feel most comfortable with, and it also provides two different ways of presenting the info to catch a reader's eye as they're reading the main text on the site. Hope that helps! L -- Lana Brindley Content Author Engineering Content Services +61 7 3514 8178 - ext (85) 88178 RHEL5 RHCT: 605008757717273 RHEL5 RHCSA: 100-043-694 See first that the design is wise and just: that ascertained, pursue it resolutely; do not for one repulse forego the purpose that you resolved to effect. William Shakespeare, on why planning is important. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 11:29 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: On 05/13/2011 11:17 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over the other. Is one or the other preferred for particular purposes? Or is it more that individual readers might prefer, or be more accustomed to using, one or the other? Which would be better for us to use on the blog? Or should we use both, to appeal to both user groups? My ignorance on this subject is so great that I have difficulty even asking an intelligent question! If anyone has a pointer to an explanation somewhere, that might help. --Jean Sorry, that was a very abrupt answer, wasn't it! I'm sure everyone uses these things differently, but on my own website, I use categories as a broad organisational structure, and tags as a more fine-tuned one. For example, an article about using fixed rows/columns in Calc might use the categories Calc and Help, and the tags Calc, Help, Formatting, Spreadsheet, and Rows/Columns. I present categories on my site as a list, and tags as a tag cloud. This gives two different methods of interaction for users. People can interact with whichever they feel most comfortable with, and it also provides two different ways of presenting the info to catch a reader's eye as they're reading the main text on the site. Hope that helps! It does help, very much! Thanks, Lana. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
What Lana said. It's good that you're organizing this ahead of time. It will help keep everything in order as the blog develops. A good way of thinking about it is that tags might give a small SEO bump to a post by repeating keywords, whereas categories make a blog easier for users to navigate through content in order to find what they want. Tags are less likely to be noticed by someone browsing the blog. And they really don't need to be predetermined for the blog authors since the keywords can be pretty specific to the article. I will say, though, Lana's idea to showcase a tag cloud is definitely a good one. You never know what will catch someone's eye. If you do add a tag cloud, I advise against an animated cloud. That's a personal preference. The flash graphics annoy me. :) ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 11:29 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: On 05/13/2011 11:17 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over the other. Is one or the other preferred for particular purposes? Or is it more that individual readers might prefer, or be more accustomed to using, one or the other? Which would be better for us to use on the blog? Or should we use both, to appeal to both user groups? My ignorance on this subject is so great that I have difficulty even asking an intelligent question! If anyone has a pointer to an explanation somewhere, that might help. --Jean Sorry, that was a very abrupt answer, wasn't it! I'm sure everyone uses these things differently, but on my own website, I use categories as a broad organisational structure, and tags as a more fine-tuned one. For example, an article about using fixed rows/columns in Calc might use the categories Calc and Help, and the tags Calc, Help, Formatting, Spreadsheet, and Rows/Columns. I present categories on my site as a list, and tags as a tag cloud. This gives two different methods of interaction for users. People can interact with whichever they feel most comfortable with, and it also provides two different ways of presenting the info to catch a reader's eye as they're reading the main text on the site. Hope that helps! It does help, very much! Thanks, Lana. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
