[Elecraft] Weird Thing with K2

2011-07-16 Thread Jack Chomley
I just got a s/hand K2 and was going through the menus and after reading the 
manual and checking it's settings, I discover D19 is set ON, but the radio is 
not fitted with the K60XV option.
so, I turn it OFF  This caused my 40 metre output power level to drop to 4 
watts out, even with the power knob set full on. Same thing with the ATU IN or 
OUT. Problem solved when I set D19 back ON.
Firmware is 2.04P 
Have I missed something?

73,  Jack VK4JRC


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Re: [Elecraft] Weird Thing with K2

2011-07-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Jack,

If that K2 has either the rework eliminators or the K60XV installed, 
you have to have D19 turned on.
Sorry that you did not get full information from the prior owner.  That 
happens frequently.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/16/2011 5:00 AM, Jack Chomley wrote:
 I just got a s/hand K2 and was going through the menus and after reading the 
 manual and checking it's settings, I discover D19 is set ON, but the radio is 
 not fitted with the K60XV option.
 so, I turn it OFF  This caused my 40 metre output power level to drop to 4 
 watts out, even with the power knob set full on. Same thing with the ATU IN 
 or OUT. Problem solved when I set D19 back ON.
 Firmware is 2.04P
 Have I missed something?

 73,  Jack VK4JRC

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Re: [Elecraft] Basic Info

2011-07-16 Thread Tommy Alderman
Don,

I just ran full QSK test on 10m this morning, up to 70 wpm, and both the K3
and the Alpha 9500 sounded very good to me, after resetting TX DLY down to
08. However I'm not sure how it would sound on the other end. Hopefully
today, if I don't get flooded out of here (6 inches of rain yesterday and
more rain this morning!), I'm going to hook up my IC-7700 and listen for
myself. I am quite impressed with what I hear via the K3's sidetone.

73,
Tom - W4BQF



-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:03 PM
To: Tommy Alderman
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Basic Info

  Tom,

I know nothing about that particular amplifier, but I offer a few in 
general facts.

Pops in the K3 audio while keying an amp could be a sign of hot 
switching in the amplifier.  Try increasing the keying delay in the K3 
to see if that eliminates it.  If not, check the relay pull-in time 
for the amp (plus any contact bounce time), and if it is not within the 
K3 Key-to-RF onset time, you will not be able to use QSK with that 
amplifier unless you can speed up its T/R relay.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/15/2011 8:42 PM, Tommy Alderman wrote:
 Thanks to NV1B, K9ZTV,VK4FD, W3FPR and to Dick for the quick response. I
 just updated the K3 and P3. Now if I could just get DELAY set correct so I
 would not hear any 'pops' in my audio when keying my 9500 amp, all would
be
 well. It will take me a while to get back into the K3.

 Thanks again!

 Tom - W4BQF




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[Elecraft] EC2?

2011-07-16 Thread Wm Bush

Does anyone have an EC2 that needs a good home?



Bill
KD8JXJ

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[Elecraft] K3: RF in compared to AF out, in dB?

2011-07-16 Thread John Harper
Does anyone know if any charts or graphs exist online that illustrate the 
effect of IF bandwidth at the audio stage?

I know Clifton Labs compares various IF bandwidths with different roofing 
filters - I'm looking for a visual representation of audio output vs. RF freq 
in order to get an idea of how quickly (in dB) the audio gets attenuated as you 
tune away from zero beat, for a given bandwidth...say, 150Hz dialed in.

Thanks,

John AE5X
http://www.ae5x.com/blog
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - 2M questions..

2011-07-16 Thread Lyle Johnson

 If that is the case, I have the following questions.

 1) Will the 2M module power out be around 5W?

TBD

 2) Are you considering 2M FM as well as SSB/CW (EM, LEO sats, Skywatch, etc)?

The KX3 should do all modes on all bands, including any optional band 
modules.

 3) Would the 2M option and the internal ATU be user swappable in the field?

TBD

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] [KPA500] Serial Port Connections on KPA500

2011-07-16 Thread Dan Atchison
Team:

Now that I have completed my KPA500 (S/N 196) I have a question 
regarding serial port connections.  I have the current, complete K-Line 
(K3, P3, KPA500).

1. Do I need to put the KPA500 in the serial port chain?  After all, it 
does have a serial port goes-inna and goes-outta.
2. Is it really necessary?
3. If there are benefits, in what order should they be chained.
4. Then, what are the benefits?

Reason I ask, I just did the following chain things are not working 
correctly.  Serial port - P3 - KPA500 - K3.

Obviously, I am missing something.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] Serial Port Connections on KPA500

2011-07-16 Thread Bruce Beford
The KPA500 -cannot- be daisy chained into the K3/P3 combo. 
 
The function of the RS232 ports on the KPA500 is different. The RS232 (PC)
is for connection to the PC for firmware updates, and other remote control
apps (in development). The RS232 (XCVR) is for use when connecting to a
Kenwood transceiver only. This is for receiving band switching info from the
Kenwood.
 
Bruce, N1RX
 
 
 
 
 Team:
 
 Now that I have completed my KPA500 (S/N 196) I have a question 
 regarding serial port connections.  I have the current, complete K-Line 
 (K3, P3, KPA500).
 
 1. Do I need to put the KPA500 in the serial port chain?  After all, it 
does have a serial port goes-inna and goes-outta.
 2. Is it really necessary?
 3. If there are benefits, in what order should they be chained.
 4. Then, what are the benefits?
 
 Reason I ask, I just did the following chain things are not working 
 correctly.  Serial port - P3 - KPA500 - K3.
 
 Obviously, I am missing something.
 
 Thanks,
 Dan

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - 2M questions..

2011-07-16 Thread Dave KK7SS
Dear Santa,

I've been a good boy (mostly) this year, ate all my greens, and nearly always 
stopped when the light turned red.

What I want for Christmas is..  Nope! Christmas is too far away  Grin

Seriously, thinking of a KX3 with 2m --- what a killer concept!
 
It doesn't seem that long ago when my old Hallicrafter twins were cutting edge 
at ~100 pounds the pair!!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

- Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net wrote:

 It's sure hard to be patient... we'll all like kids in the month of
 December
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] Serial Port Connections on KPA500

2011-07-16 Thread Dan Atchison

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[Elecraft] TBD

2011-07-16 Thread Benny Aumala
All reflectos readers are not insiders of english / american
abbreviations. TBD is not common shortcut in CW-traffic.
What it means?

- To Be Determined
- To Be Decided
- To Be Discussed
- To Be Defined
- To Be Done

These are the variations Wikipedia gives to-day.

BennyOH9NB
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Re: [Elecraft] TBD

2011-07-16 Thread Lyle Johnson
In my reply to Dave, I used TBD to mean To Be Determined.

73,

Lyle KK7P

 All reflectos readers are not insiders of english / american
 abbreviations. TBD is not common shortcut in CW-traffic.
 What it means?

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Re: [Elecraft] Basic Info

2011-07-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Last time I looked at Waddle K. Knowitall's Authoritative Real
Meanings Dictionary,  70 wpm, indeed 50 wpm was QRQ all the way.

If you want QSK, you should set the TX DLY to minimum 8 and leave it
there forever.  I don't like the way it behaves at higher delays
anyway.  If you want to keep RX from opening in certain contesting
situations, do it with the logging program and it's PTT setting and
pipe the logger supplied PTT signal around.  You will find that your
9500 and the K3 are slick together.

You CAN use the CW+ fast QSK, but this is a fight in the K3 against
RX-TX-RX transition tasks. e.g. CPU time in the firmware, and in order
to be really fast some functions are disabled.  You will need to
decide if the disabled functions are things you can do without.

73, Guy.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Tommy Alderman
alderm...@windstream.net wrote:
 I suspect my days of QRQ are about over as right now I'm doing pretty good
 to copy at just 70 wpm!

 My primary interest is getting 'smooth' full QSK at contesting speeds, i.e.,
 26 to 36 wpm. If I can get that, then I'll be happy. I did drop TX DLY from
 20 down to 8 and with the K3 barefoot, it sounds pretty darned good. In the
 morning I will try this with the Alpha 9500 amp; every time I try it (on
 20m), many Eu stations want a 'QSO'. Anyway I am getting close, both at 30
 wpm and I just tested with TX DLY set for 8, and at 60 wpm it sounds good.

 Tom - W4BQF



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W5UXH
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:44 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Basic Info

 Don,

 I suspect that Tom wants to run in CW+ (or QRQ) mode, and I believe in this
 mode the TX DLY delay parameter must remain at 8 and this effectively
 produces a delay from KEY IN to KEY OUT on the order of 4 to 5 msecs.   I
 also believe it can not be increased by changing TX DLY?

 My guess is the vacuum relays in the amp might not switch quite this fast.

 73,
 Chuck, W5UXH



 Don Wilhelm-4 wrote:

 Tom,

 I know nothing about that particular amplifier, but I offer a few in
 general facts.

 Pops in the K3 audio while keying an amp could be a sign of hot
 switching in the amplifier.  Try increasing the keying delay in the K3
 to see if that eliminates it.  If not, check the relay pull-in time
 for the amp (plus any contact bounce time), and if it is not within the
 K3 Key-to-RF onset time, you will not be able to use QSK with that
 amplifier unless you can speed up its T/R relay.

 73,
 Don W3FPR





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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] Serial Port Connections on KPA500

2011-07-16 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Thanks, Bruce.

The KPA Utility (which also provides firmware load functions) currently
offers remote control capability on its Operate page.

You can effectively press the KPA500 front panel on/off button, switch
between tune  operate, change bands, and monitor the current PA voltage,
current, temperature, output power, and SWR. 

The KPA Utility monitors continuously for fault data, displays the most
recent current fault should it occur, and provides a way to clear the
current fault. Other pages on the KPA Utility provide access to historic
fault data, decoded from binary values to engineer English.

Remote use requires a PC and serial port connected directly to the KPA500,
typically an internet connection to the PC near the KPA500, and some sort of
remote desktop software that allows you to operate one computer from
another.

I've used Microsoft's Remote Desktop built into modern versions of Windows
for this, and there are other remote desktop offerings such as PC Anywhere,
GoToMyPC,  PCNow, Laplink's Everywhere and I'm sure many more.

There certainly may be other KPA500 remote control applications in
development that I'm not aware of.

73 de Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Beford
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 7:41 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] Serial Port Connections on KPA500

The KPA500 -cannot- be daisy chained into the K3/P3 combo. 
 
The function of the RS232 ports on the KPA500 is different. The RS232 (PC)
is for connection to the PC for firmware updates, and other remote control
apps (in development). The RS232 (XCVR) is for use when connecting to a
Kenwood transceiver only. This is for receiving band switching info from the
Kenwood.
 
Bruce, N1RX
 
 
 
 
 Team:
 
 Now that I have completed my KPA500 (S/N 196) I have a question 
 regarding serial port connections.  I have the current, complete 
 K-Line (K3, P3, KPA500).
 
 1. Do I need to put the KPA500 in the serial port chain?  After all, 
 it
does have a serial port goes-inna and goes-outta.
 2. Is it really necessary?
 3. If there are benefits, in what order should they be chained.
 4. Then, what are the benefits?
 
 Reason I ask, I just did the following chain things are not working 
 correctly.  Serial port - P3 - KPA500 - K3.
 
 Obviously, I am missing something.
 
 Thanks,
 Dan

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: RF in compared to AF out, in dB?

2011-07-16 Thread David Gilbert

Why wouldn't Spectrogram show you that?  Real time right on your 
computer, and it's free.

Dave   AB7E



On 7/16/2011 6:10 AM, John Harper wrote:
 Does anyone know if any charts or graphs exist online that illustrate the 
 effect of IF bandwidth at the audio stage?

 I know Clifton Labs compares various IF bandwidths with different roofing 
 filters - I'm looking for a visual representation of audio output vs. RF freq 
 in order to get an idea of how quickly (in dB) the audio gets attenuated as 
 you tune away from zero beat, for a given bandwidth...say, 150Hz dialed in.

 Thanks,

 John AE5X
 http://www.ae5x.com/blog
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[Elecraft] order form questions

2011-07-16 Thread Shane
Hi,

I'm trying to put a complete order form together for a base kit and
just really want to make sure I've not screwed anything up.

When I run through the order page on the website, one item (144OPT100)
is always added as free. I'm not real clear on exactly what that is.

Is my understanding correct in that:
- a KXV3a is a must when ordering the P3?
- I only need the KUSB for firmware updates via USB, otherwise, DB9
will work fine and is included?

Am I leaving anything out w/ these items (in the context of up and running)?

K3/100
P3-K
KAT3
For a K3/100
KXV3A
MH2

Thanks for a quick look over.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: RF in compared to AF out, in dB?

2011-07-16 Thread Lyle Johnson
You can also use the AFV/dBV function in the K3, see Owner's Manual for 
details on how to use.

73,

Lyle KK7P

 Does anyone know if any charts or graphs exist online that illustrate the 
 effect of IF bandwidth at the audio stage?

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[Elecraft] K2 on digital modes questions

2011-07-16 Thread Paul Huff
I just added the SSB board to my K2 and it seems to be working great.  (I made 
a 
40-meter QSO and was given a report of nice crisp audio.)  I'm not an SSB 
operator and my real goal for adding this option is to be able to work some of 
the digital modes.  I have 3 quick questions...

1.  Is there any advantage to using the RTTY mode as opposed to the SSB mode on 
the K2?

2.  If I use the RTTY mode, do I need to change the filter settings?  Currently 
they show 2.2, 2.0, 1.8, and 1.6 as default values without any setup from me. 
(I setup my SSB filters to OP1, OP1, 1.8, and 0.7 with the thought that the 0.7 
might be useful in some digital situations.)

3.  I configured my K2 microphone connector for an Icom HM-12 microphone (the 
only one that I own) which requires a small bias voltage on AF through a 10k 
resistor.  Is this bias voltage likely to cause me any trouble when I hook up 
my 
interface (a Rascal from K4ABT)?  ...  Actually, I think that I have already 
answered this question by looking at the schematic for the Rascal interface. 
The AF connects through a capacitor to an audio level pot across an isolation 
transformer.  That capacitor should block the DC bias so I don't think that I 
will need to reconfigure the microphone connector in the K2.  Does this make 
sense?

Thank you ahead of time for any and all comments to any of my questions!

73,
Paul - N8XMS 

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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] Serial Port Connections on KPA500

2011-07-16 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Dan:

The PC-P3-K3 connection is used because the P3 gets frequency, IF bandwidth,
RIT offset and other data from the K3 very frequently.  Logging programs
also require a PC connection to the K3. Hence the need for the daisy
chain.  The  P3 passes command / response data through from one serial port
to another, adding its own command / response stream to the P3 to K3 part of
the chain.

The KPA500 gets band data from the K3 via the band change lines on 15-pin
ACC connector.  The KPA500 communicates its band switching preference to the
K3 via the AUXBUS line of the 15-pin ACC connector, so that the K3 changes
bands when you press band buttons on the KPA500 front panel.

None of the K3/KPA500 integration uses serial ports.  There's no need or
advantage to daisy chain the serial port.  The KPA500 does not pass thru
commands and responses between the two serial port connectors, as you have
discovered experimentally.

The KPA500 uses its XCVR serial connector for firmware load, configuration
save/restore, fault analysis and remote control of the amplifier; these are
functions of the KPA Utility. A serial port command set has been published
that permits others to write KPA500 remote control software as well.

As N1RX correctly stated, the KPA500's XCVR serial connector is for radios
that provide frequency information via a serial port, primarily Kenwood. 

Band change information from the K3 isn't needed for the KPA500 if you don't
mind that the first dit or ahh (or hola) on the new band is shortened.
When my prototype KPA500 didn't yet have band change via the parallel port,
I'd just tune the radio to the new band, tap the paddle, and the amp was
ready to go on the new band. My K3 to KPA500 connection consisted of the RF
cable and an RCA connection between the K3's Key Out and the KPA500 PA Key
connectors. I didn't connect ALC. This still works today.

The ACC line connection between K3 and KPA500 does offer one additional
operational advantage:  The K3 retains two different power levels for each
band, one for use when the KPA500 is in operation, and another when it's
off.  So I can set the K3 power level to transmit at 100 watts when the
amplifier is switched off and about 30-35 watts from the K3 to the KPA500
when the amplifier is in Operate, and I don't have to remember to change the
K3 power each time I turn the amplifier on. The K3 learns that the KPA500 is
or isn't operating via AUXBUS communication over the 15-pin ACC cable.

The amplifier keying connection and ALC line also go through the 15-pin ACC
connection, which makes for a straightforward installation requiring just
two cables between radio and amplifier, the 15-pin ACC cable and the RF
output of the transceiver.  I haven't played with ALC, I just keep the K3's
power where it belongs. But the ALC connection is there.

Some antenna tuners and SWR monitor devices offer a relay to interrupt the
amplifier key line when SWR exceeds a threshold. If you want to use this
capability, use an RCA connector keying line daisy chain from radio to SWR
bridge/ATU to KPA500.  The KPAK3AUX cable kit includes a small key line
interrupter that looks like an DB-9 gender changer with a pin removed so
that the key line from K3 to KPA500 through the ACC cable is interrupted.

The KPAK3AUX  accessory connector cable option kit also includes an
all-15-pins-connected Y cable so that you can concurrently connect
additional devices to the K3's ACC connector. Some cables and Y connectors
sold for VGA monitor applications do not have all pins connected straight
thru.

I use a 4-port 9-pin serial ABCD switch box connected to an Elecraft KUSB
USB-to-Serial Adapter connected to my development computer as common, and
the four serial port outputs from this ABCD switch go to one of two K3s, a
KPA500, and a 3.5mm serial data cable that I plug into a W2, XG3, or K144XV,
depending on what I'm doing. I may in the future add another layer of
switching so that 3.5mm data cables can be connected to a W2, other products
in development, and a free cable for use with the XG3 or K144XV.

I use a KUSB rather than a multi-port serial PCI card because I need to very
frequently test the various utilities through the USB to Serial adapters
that Elecraft sells, and I use relatively long and convoluted RS-232 paths
so that I develop and test with a less than ideal short direct connection.
Absent this requirement, I'd use a 4- or 8-port PCI serial card like a
Rocket Port and use USB to Serial adapters only when I had no other
choice.
 
73 de Dick, K6KR

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan Atchison
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 7:13 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [KPA500] Serial Port Connections on KPA500

Team:

Now that I have completed my KPA500 (S/N 196) I have a question regarding
serial port connections.  I have the current, complete K-Line (K3, P3,
KPA500).

1. Do I need to put the 

Re: [Elecraft] K2 on digital modes questions

2011-07-16 Thread R. Kevin Stover
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:53:07 -0400
Paul Huff ph...@mi.rr.com wrote:

 I just added the SSB board to my K2 and it seems to be working
 great.  (I made a 40-meter QSO and was given a report of nice crisp
 audio.)  I'm not an SSB operator and my real goal for adding this
 option is to be able to work some of the digital modes.  I have 3
 quick questions...
 
 1.  Is there any advantage to using the RTTY mode as opposed to the
 SSB mode on the K2?

Yes, setting up the RTTY filters will allow you to narrow down the
passband to fight QRM while coying digi mode signals.
 
 2.  If I use the RTTY mode, do I need to change the filter settings?
 Currently they show 2.2, 2.0, 1.8, and 1.6 as default values without
 any setup from me. (I setup my SSB filters to OP1, OP1, 1.8, and 0.7
 with the thought that the 0.7 might be useful in some digital
 situations.)

The RTTY filters are separate from the SSB filters so the changes you
make to them have no effect on the SSB filters. They have to be
activated from the secondary menu.

Setup the first RTTY filter the same as the first SSB filter so you get
a full waterfall while tuning around and clicking. I have the rest of
mine setup at 1K, 700Hz and 300Hz.




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 on digital modes questions

2011-07-16 Thread R. Kevin Stover
I should have also added that the center frequency of the filters needs
to be set at 1000Hz.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - 2M questions..

2011-07-16 Thread Jack Chomley
PLEASE do not over complicate this new model radio, the more you put in it, the 
more to go wrong and render it unuseable. Field repairs are no fun...
HF and maybe 6 metres at the most. :-)

73, Jack

Sent from my iPad

On 17/07/2011, at 12:02 AM, Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com wrote:

 
 If that is the case, I have the following questions.
 
 1) Will the 2M module power out be around 5W?
 
 TBD
 
 2) Are you considering 2M FM as well as SSB/CW (EM, LEO sats, Skywatch, etc)?
 
 The KX3 should do all modes on all bands, including any optional band 
 modules.
 
 3) Would the 2M option and the internal ATU be user swappable in the field?
 
 TBD
 
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] KPA500 Fan Question

2011-07-16 Thread Jay
Just did the first voltage test on #153.  Basically I turned it on to 
check that the tap is the right one, then turned it off.  The fan ran 
for over 15 min before I turned it on again (which shuts the fan 
down) How long should it go before shutting down?  Repeated the 
procedure and tapped temp and it showed 23.5 C and the fan does not 
run while in Standby, but it comes on again when I tap the power 
button.  Still running as I type.  Is this adjustable?  Jay, W6JDB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: RF in compared to AF out, in dB?

2011-07-16 Thread John Harper
Thanks for the info all - Spectrogram has done what I needed doig.

73,

John Harper
http://www.ae5x.com/blog

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Fan Question

2011-07-16 Thread n5ge

Jay,

When you turn the KPA500 off the fan should run until it drains the high voltage
from the power supply capacitors, which takes about ten seconds on my KPA500
#119.  It should not run for 15 minutes.  I would send an email to the support
address listed on the Elecraft web site regarding that behavior.

It is normal for the fan the be off when the amp is turned on.  The default
setting on the fan is for the fan to stay off until the RF devices begin to warm
up.  The fan will change speeds as the temperature of the devices rise.

Since the fan is a major part of the KPA500's protection I would not operate the
KPA500 until that behavior has been corrected.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member
 

On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:31:30 -0700, Jay livn2g...@q.com wrote:

Just did the first voltage test on #153.  Basically I turned it on to 
check that the tap is the right one, then turned it off.  The fan ran 
for over 15 min before I turned it on again (which shuts the fan 
down) How long should it go before shutting down?  Repeated the 
procedure and tapped temp and it showed 23.5 C and the fan does not 
run while in Standby, but it comes on again when I tap the power 
button.  Still running as I type.  Is this adjustable?  Jay, W6JDB
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Re: [Elecraft] Basic Info

2011-07-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It's all relative. QRQ means, simply, Shall I send faster?, nothing more,
just as QRS means, simply, Shall I send slower?

Obviously we've adapted those Q-codes in various ways, but they're meaning
is still relative unless a specific number is added, e.g. QRQ to 70 WPM or
QRS to 30WPM

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
Last time I looked at Waddle K. Knowitall's Authoritative Real
Meanings Dictionary,  70 wpm, indeed 50 wpm was QRQ all the way.

If you want QSK, you should set the TX DLY to minimum 8 and leave it
there forever.  I don't like the way it behaves at higher delays
anyway.  If you want to keep RX from opening in certain contesting
situations, do it with the logging program and it's PTT setting and
pipe the logger supplied PTT signal around.  You will find that your
9500 and the K3 are slick together.

You CAN use the CW+ fast QSK, but this is a fight in the K3 against
RX-TX-RX transition tasks. e.g. CPU time in the firmware, and in order
to be really fast some functions are disabled.  You will need to
decide if the disabled functions are things you can do without.

73, Guy.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Tommy Alderman
alderm...@windstream.net wrote:
 I suspect my days of QRQ are about over as right now I'm doing pretty good
 to copy at just 70 wpm!

 My primary interest is getting 'smooth' full QSK at contesting speeds,
i.e.,
 26 to 36 wpm. If I can get that, then I'll be happy. I did drop TX DLY
from
 20 down to 8 and with the K3 barefoot, it sounds pretty darned good. In
the
 morning I will try this with the Alpha 9500 amp; every time I try it (on
 20m), many Eu stations want a 'QSO'. Anyway I am getting close, both at 30
 wpm and I just tested with TX DLY set for 8, and at 60 wpm it sounds good.

 Tom - W4BQF
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Fan Question

2011-07-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
As the manual says, it should run for a while to drain the power supply
voltage to a safe level, then it simply slows to a stop. But 15 minutes is
definitely over the top - something isn't shutting down the power supply
when you tap the POWER button (typically the fan will run for 30 seconds or
so, IIRC). That also means that dangerous voltage exist inside the KPA500
even with the mains plug pulled. 

As with all things microprocessor or microcontroller controlled these days,
the first thing to do is reload the firmware and see if that cures it. 

Did you build it from a kit? I wonder if having the ribbon cables that runs
from the front panel board to the I/O board on the rear panel, or the
smaller ribbon cable between the I/O board and the power supply module
installed incorrectly might cause this, since the signaling obviously must
follow that path.  

Ron AC7AC

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Fan Question

Just did the first voltage test on #153.  Basically I turned it on to 
check that the tap is the right one, then turned it off.  The fan ran 
for over 15 min before I turned it on again (which shuts the fan 
down) How long should it go before shutting down?  Repeated the 
procedure and tapped temp and it showed 23.5 C and the fan does not 
run while in Standby, but it comes on again when I tap the power 
button.  Still running as I type.  Is this adjustable?  Jay, W6JDB
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Re: [Elecraft] TBD

2011-07-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Where I came from (raised on English) it means To Be Done (which might
include that something need to be determined or simply that there wasn't
time to do it yet). 

And that's the bane of abbreviations. They don't mean exactly the same thing
to two different people - sometimes they mean exactly the opposite! So I'll
use TBD in notes to myself, but never when trying to communicate with
others. 

Ron 

-Original Message-

 All reflectos readers are not insiders of english / american
 abbreviations. TBD is not common shortcut in CW-traffic.
 What it means?


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[Elecraft] KPA500 switching ideas with a Flex-5000A - thanks for the replies

2011-07-16 Thread vtnn43e


Thanks to all who replied to my post. There was a lot of good info in the 
replies and they are appreciated. 



Zack 

N8FNR 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement

2011-07-16 Thread Phillip Shepard
The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (7/17/11) at 1800Z on 14.3035
MHz +/- QRM. I will be net control from rainy Oregon, and we'll try
relays to pull in the stations that I can't hear.  Let's hope that
propagation is better than last week.  See you there.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] TBD

2011-07-16 Thread James C. Hall, MD
Yep, in my profession, when I was working with students, WNL may mean Within
Normal Limits or just We Never Looked ! :)

73, Jamie
WB4YDL

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 4:31 PM
To: 'Benny Aumala'
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TBD

Where I came from (raised on English) it means To Be Done (which might
include that something need to be determined or simply that there wasn't
time to do it yet). 

And that's the bane of abbreviations. They don't mean exactly the same thing
to two different people - sometimes they mean exactly the opposite! So I'll
use TBD in notes to myself, but never when trying to communicate with
others. 

Ron 

-Original Message-

 All reflectos readers are not insiders of english / american
 abbreviations. TBD is not common shortcut in CW-traffic.
 What it means?


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[Elecraft] Heil Pro Micro with K3

2011-07-16 Thread Paul Urie
Are there any problems with using the Heil Pro Micro headset with the HC-6
element with the K3? Is the Heil Traveler a better option?

73,
Paul N7QOC
K3 #5563, P3 #1391, KPA500 #102



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Re: [Elecraft] TBD

2011-07-16 Thread gdaught6
 WNL may mean Within
 Normal Limits or just We Never Looked !

Thank goodness!  I was afraid that NL has been split into two or more sections 
(for 
SS).

My son used to say PCMCIA stood for People Can't Memorize Computer Industry 
Acronyms.

73,

George T Daughters, K6GT
CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
October 1-2, 2011


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Re: [Elecraft] Heil Pro Micro with K3

2011-07-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Paul,

The K3 has a full array of controls for using most any microphone 
element.  There is a wide range mic level control with both high and low 
ranges, and you may select to have bias turned on or off as the mic 
requires.  In addition, you may use either the front (8 pin) microphone 
jack, or the rear panel 3.5mm stereo jack (the microphone is monaural, 
but use a stereo plug anyway - the jack is stereo.

The only limitation is that for the front panel jack, the plug must 
conform to the Elecraft pinout - it is Kenwood compatible - which says 
that most, but all Kenwood wired mics will work, the exception being 
that those who depend on +8 volts at pin 5 will have trouble, Elecraft 
places +8 volts on pin 6 instead of pin 5.

So bottom line is that you can use most any microphone sucessfully with 
the K3 as long as the mic plug is wired correctly.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/16/2011 7:31 PM, Paul Urie wrote:
 Are there any problems with using the Heil Pro Micro headset with the HC-6
 element with the K3? Is the Heil Traveler a better option?

 73,
 Paul N7QOC
 K3 #5563, P3 #1391, KPA500 #102

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Re: [Elecraft] TBD

2011-07-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Or that can be shortened to JAA - Just Another Acronym.

In selected presentations in my long past, I sometimes used the 
abbreviation IHA in jest, hoping someone might ask what it meant (I 
Hate Acronyms)!  Often it just passed without comment, and that is sad - 
communication requires speaking and writing so others can understand 
even if they cannot crawl inside our brain.

I don't know when all this acronym stuff started, but it may date back 
to the math usage of QED at the conclusion of a proof.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/16/2011 7:43 PM, gdaug...@stanford.edu wrote:

 My son used to say PCMCIA stood for People Can't Memorize Computer Industry
 Acronyms.

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Re: [Elecraft] Basic Info

2011-07-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
By common usage, the language has moved beyond the old CW procedural
meanings.  QRQ clearly also means faster than common usage.  Same
thing for QRO, which has more of an absolute sense these days.

Otherwise how would you interpret the sentence, Do you consider 35 WPM QRQ?

73, Guy.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:
 It's all relative. QRQ means, simply, Shall I send faster?, nothing more,
 just as QRS means, simply, Shall I send slower?

 Obviously we've adapted those Q-codes in various ways, but they're meaning
 is still relative unless a specific number is added, e.g. QRQ to 70 WPM or
 QRS to 30WPM

 Ron AC7AC

 -Original Message-
 Last time I looked at Waddle K. Knowitall's Authoritative Real
 Meanings Dictionary,  70 wpm, indeed 50 wpm was QRQ all the way.

 If you want QSK, you should set the TX DLY to minimum 8 and leave it
 there forever.  I don't like the way it behaves at higher delays
 anyway.  If you want to keep RX from opening in certain contesting
 situations, do it with the logging program and it's PTT setting and
 pipe the logger supplied PTT signal around.  You will find that your
 9500 and the K3 are slick together.

 You CAN use the CW+ fast QSK, but this is a fight in the K3 against
 RX-TX-RX transition tasks. e.g. CPU time in the firmware, and in order
 to be really fast some functions are disabled.  You will need to
 decide if the disabled functions are things you can do without.

 73, Guy.

 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Tommy Alderman
 alderm...@windstream.net wrote:
 I suspect my days of QRQ are about over as right now I'm doing pretty good
 to copy at just 70 wpm!

 My primary interest is getting 'smooth' full QSK at contesting speeds,
 i.e.,
 26 to 36 wpm. If I can get that, then I'll be happy. I did drop TX DLY
 from
 20 down to 8 and with the K3 barefoot, it sounds pretty darned good. In
 the
 morning I will try this with the Alpha 9500 amp; every time I try it (on
 20m), many Eu stations want a 'QSO'. Anyway I am getting close, both at 30
 wpm and I just tested with TX DLY set for 8, and at 60 wpm it sounds good.

 Tom - W4BQF
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[Elecraft] KPA500 #165

2011-07-16 Thread Robert Garceau
My KPA500 S/N 165 kit, received July 13th was finally  finished today at
2:45 p.m. .

Jumped right into the CWT ops contest at 3:00 p.m. and ran the amp full
power for an hour.

Worked just fine.  Ran 482 watts on 20 meters using a 3 el stepper. Stayed
pretty steady at 482..

Tracking with my K3 worked perfectly using the aux cable.

Just finished using the Y cable to integrate the MicroHam KII and writelog.

No problems noted.

 

Building the kit:

No unusual problems. I just took my time. I was not in a rush.

Made a couple of dumb mistakes. I got a bit wrapped up over the length of
the 10 standoffs used to attach the front front panel circuit board to the
front panel. I'm sure Dale Farmer is scratching his head after a couple of
emails that I sent to him. Those Elecraft guys must have a ton of patience
dealing with email questions. All questions were answered within a couple of
hours. Great job guys.

I just wasn't reading the parts list properly.

Like the K3 build, the KPA500 went together without a hitch.

 

I guess to fill out the K-line, I need the P3.

 

Bob, W1EQ K3 #4199.

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] Serial Port Connections on KPA500

2011-07-16 Thread Dan Atchison

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[Elecraft] k144XV Rocks

2011-07-16 Thread zumbruns
I'm sure this is old news to many K3 users with the K144XV installed in their 
K3 but as Wayne mentioned quite some time ago on this reflector the K144XV 
'Rocks'.  I have never operated 2 meter SSB before and had the pleasure of 
installing the 2 meter option to a friends new K3.  The install was straight 
forward and I again marveled at the thought put into the design and placement 
of the K144XV in the K3.  I downloaded the latest firmware after I setup the 
phase lock calibration and tuned the band.  Mind you I had a 2 foot handitalkie 
whip on the K3.  I turned to the 2 meter calling frequency and low and behold 
there was a friend talking to a guy about 50 miles north of us.  Guess what?  I 
could copy both sides of the conversation and when I broke to call my friend he 
told me to stand by and when he came back he introduced me to the other party 
of the qso.  I didn't think there was anyway that this guy in Wyoming could 
copy me but he was copying me 100% about an S5.  Needless to say I was 
shocked.  Granted he had a tall tower and 11 element 2 meter antenna pointed my 
way but still...There I was with a dinky little vertical whip sitting in my 
basement running 10 watts and talking with this guy 50 miles to the north in 
another state.  The bug struck and now I too ordered the internal 2 meter 
option for my K3 SN 176.  Who knows maybe I'll get into moon bounce, ha.  
Anyone have any suggestions for a 2 meter amplifier for the station?  Thanks 
again Elecraft for putting the fun back into the hobby.  Best 73, Steve W0SZ 
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[Elecraft] K3 RTTY with morse key

2011-07-16 Thread Sam Morgan
I'm not at all familiar with rtty,
but decided to try a little in the NAQP rtty today.

I made a few  successful contacts using my key in the FSK D mode

My question is
once I key the K3 and send something (like my call for example)
after the letters are sent
it seems like there is a switch to an idling mode or something???
and there is a 4-5 second tail of transmissions
with no letters being sent
before the K3 quits transmitting

this lasts a long time maybe 4-5 seconds
other signals I am hearing don't sound like they switch
to this idling noise with no letters being sent
they just send their letters and then quit transmitting

I can stop this idling transmission short
by taping the xmit button

please enlighten me what is going on here
is there a setting I need to change somewhere in the k3?
to stop this, or is it normal, or, or, or, ??? lol

I'm sure this is common knowledge to those familiar with rtty,
but I'm new to this mode,
and also new to sending it with the K3,
as well as sending rtty with the code key

TIA
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GB  73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2011-07-16 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
I keep hearing about warm weather and sunny skies but it is so rare  
here I can count the days over 70 degrees on the fingers on one hand with  
some left over.  Most days this week I have had to start a fire to stay  
warm.  Today it got all the way up to 56 degrees.  Luckily the nightly  
lows are getting warmer too.  Last night it was only 50 degrees instead of  
in the mid 40s.  It has been raining for the better part of the last three  
days.  I wish the dry season would get here and summer would start.

However, not all is gloomy and cold.  The propagation has become  
incrementally better.  Enough so I could have a few longer skeds on 20  
meters.  The wish is for continued improvement.  Maybe the sun will break  
with predictions and become more active.  It would be best if the solar  
wind would kick into high gear and create numerous auroral displays.  It  
is easier to deal with auroral flutter than it is to listen to a sparsely  
populated band.

If anyone is interested in acting as a relay station on either net  
please email me.  I will turn the net over to you for a few minutes so you  
can call areas in my skip zone.  It sure would prove helpful to those I  
cannot reach directly.

Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.

1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)

Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday z (Sunday 5 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

Stay well,
   Kevin.  KD5ONS

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[Elecraft] K3/100 Perfect condition at eBay

2011-07-16 Thread Levent Sasmazel
No scratches or dents tested and adjusted by the factory (Paper work is 
included) is for sale in eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ELECRAFT-K3-100-Perfect-condition-/120750869259?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1d500b0b

Thanks for looking,
Levent - WW2L

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY with morse key

2011-07-16 Thread Lyle Johnson
You can quickly make the transition from tx to Rx if you send IM as a 
prosign (di-di-da-dah).  See the Owner's Manual for details.

73,

Lyle KK7P

 My question is
 once I key the K3 and send something (like my call for example)
 after the letters are sent
 it seems like there is a switch to an idling mode or something???

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY with morse key [solved]

2011-07-16 Thread Sam Morgan
thanks, knew it was in there some where

GB  73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan

On 7/16/2011 10:16 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:
 You can quickly make the transition from tx to Rx if you send IM as a 
 prosign
 (di-di-da-dah). See the Owner's Manual for details.

 73,

 Lyle KK7P

 My question is
 once I key the K3 and send something (like my call for example)
 after the letters are sent
 it seems like there is a switch to an idling mode or something???


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[Elecraft] What have I gotten myself into???

2011-07-16 Thread David Dietrich
Hey all!

As I am looking at all the documentation that goes along with my K2 (10W) and 
it's options, I have to ask myself this question: What have I gotten myself 
into???  I am not a novice kit builder...I have built a K1-4, two other 
Wilderness Radio QRP radios (Wayne's early work), and some other station gear.  
However, I think the K2 is by far the most complex kit build I will ever do.  I 
don't think anything else comes close to it except for the Sienna.  


Well, I know I can do this!  It is going to be a lot of fun!  I will be 
snapping some pics of the build and posting them to my Facebook page.  Since I 
cannot attach files to these E-mails, I will attach the link to the photo album 
for anyone who is interested once I start working on it hopefully starting this 
week.

73,

David, KC9EHQ
K2 s/n 7164
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Re: [Elecraft] What have I gotten myself into???

2011-07-16 Thread Robert G. Strickland
David...

It's no more difficult than one solder joint at a time. Yes, there are a 
lot of parts, but again, just one part at a time. Watching the 
Elecraft come on the dial the first time is a thrill hard to beat. 
Have fun.

...robert  #5957

On 7/17/2011 04:09, David Dietrich wrote:
 Hey all!

 As I am looking at all the documentation that goes along with my K2 (10W) and 
 it's options, I have to ask myself this question: What have I gotten myself 
 into???  I am not a novice kit builder...I have built a K1-4, two other 
 Wilderness Radio QRP radios (Wayne's early work), and some other station 
 gear.  However, I think the K2 is by far the most complex kit build I will 
 ever do.  I don't think anything else comes close to it except for the Sienna.


 Well, I know I can do this!  It is going to be a lot of fun!  I will be 
 snapping some pics of the build and posting them to my Facebook page.  Since 
 I cannot attach files to these E-mails, I will attach the link to the photo 
 album for anyone who is interested once I start working on it hopefully 
 starting this week.

 73,

 David, KC9EHQ
 K2 s/n 7164
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Robert G. Strickland, PhD, ABPH - KE2WY
rc...@verizon.net
Syracuse, New York, USA
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[Elecraft] FW: Videos of KX3 in action

2011-07-16 Thread Dave KK7SS
Not me :-((

Video of OG working Dave with KX3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGlvTwaA95I

Close up and playing with DSP during CW QSO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmNEs3XVAss

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Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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