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Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3

2017-09-01 Thread Vic Rosenthal

Is there a noticeable time delay when using Bluetooth? If so, it might be a 
problem for monitoring CW sending (or voice, for that matter).

Vic 4X6GP 

> On 2 Sep 2017, at 2:56, Dave Sublette  wrote:
> 
> This idea of putting headphones and mic on Bluetooth has interested me for 
> some time.  Looking at the page on amazon, the 366-T device looks to be a 
> transmitter only.  That would be fine.  You could hook it to the speaker or 
> headphone output of the radio and buy a pair of Bluetooth headphones and 
> listen just fine.  In order to use your mic (as with an headset/mic 
> arrangement), you would need a transmitter on your headset and another 
> receiver on the radio, plugged into the mic jack.  To use it, you would need 
> to put the radio on VOX.
> 
> This brings visions of after market boxes strung all over the desk and one 
> hung on your headset.  I don’t know what the RF from the headset Tx would do 
> to you. Do these things transmit continuously?  I would be more comfortable 
> with the idea if they only transmitted when you were talking on the radio.
> 
> I am not up on all the latest gadgetry.  Maybe someone can educate me.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Dave, K4TO
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[Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3

2017-09-01 Thread john

I have used
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P24XKS8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?i
e=UTF8=1 for a couple of years with a computer and tv but never in the
radio room.

John KK9A


tf3y wrote:
Fri Sep 1 16:41:38 EDT 2017

Has anyone used a Bluetooth adapter for wireless headphones / headset with
the K3?

Any recommendations or suggestions?
What you stay away from?

73, Yngvi TF3Y

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Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3

2017-09-01 Thread Dave Sublette

This idea of putting headphones and mic on Bluetooth has interested me for some 
time.  Looking at the page on amazon, the 366-T device looks to be a 
transmitter only.  That would be fine.  You could hook it to the speaker or 
headphone output of the radio and buy a pair of Bluetooth headphones and listen 
just fine.  In order to use your mic (as with an headset/mic arrangement), you 
would need a transmitter on your headset and another receiver on the radio, 
plugged into the mic jack.  To use it, you would need to put the radio on VOX.

This brings visions of after market boxes strung all over the desk and one hung 
on your headset.  I don’t know what the RF from the headset Tx would do to you. 
Do these things transmit continuously?  I would be more comfortable with the 
idea if they only transmitted when you were talking on the radio.

I am not up on all the latest gadgetry.  Maybe someone can educate me.

73,

Dave, K4TO
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Re: [Elecraft] Update on KXPD2 and KXPD3 paddles

2017-09-01 Thread Wayne Burdick

Hi Roger,

All we’ve done with the KXPD2 so far is add Loctite to the two screws that hold 
the assembly together. We’re also going to make a minor change to the PCB. 

In general the changes would not be noticeable by the average user. But we have 
SOTA operators who are using them in very harsh conditions, and over time we’ll 
probably refine things based on their feedback.

In general, if you feel that something isn’t working perfectly, please contact 
customer support so they can assess what the issue may be.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Roger Meadows  wrote:
> 
> How do we tell if our current KXPD2 is up to the current configuration?
> 
> Roger
> AE4RM
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> I have to apologize for stating that there were mod kits available for the 
>> KXPD2 and KXPD3 that reflect improvements we’ve made over time. Turns out 
>> that we only upgrade existing units at the factory, so we can do complete 
>> testing before returning them.
>> 
>> For paddles under warranty that aren’t up to the current configuration, 
>> we’ll add the upgrades on request, at no charge.
>> 
>> For those out of warranty, we charge a flat $79 fee (plus shipping) to do 
>> the upgrade. (We just reduced this from $95.)
>> 
>> If you have an older KXPD3 you’d like to upgrade, please use the following 
>> link to place the order:
>> 
>>   http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#kx3
>> 
>> For older KXPD2s there will be a similar process, but it is not in place 
>> yet. We’ll announce it in a week or two.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR




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[Elecraft] Anyone want to part with their kat100?

2017-09-01 Thread W4EDN

I just got a k2/100 and would like matching tuner. 
W4EDN
w4...@bellsouth.net

Sent from my iPod
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio

2017-09-01 Thread Phil Kane

On 9/1/2017 7:01 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:

> Naw, he just figured out a practical way to use it in smaller radios by
> the invention of the narrow bandwidth, very steep skirted "mechanical"
> filter to lop off the unwanted sideband (if you consider the radios of
> that day smaller - LOL).  The real use of SSB came when General LeMay of
> SAC adopted it for their world wide HF communications network and
> propagation conditions during that time were so good that it was almost
> impossible NOT to communicate anywhere you wanted to with SSB.

Do not forget the other two members of what we secretly and snidely
referred to as the "Friday Night Poker Club":  Barry Goldwater who got
the financing through The Congress for the SAC "Short Order" system, and
Arthur Godfrey who handled the public relations end of the program.
Brings back many memories.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
"Skybird Skybird Do Not Answer"

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Update on KXPD2 and KXPD3 paddles

2017-09-01 Thread Roger Meadows

How do we tell if our current KXPD2 is up to the current configuration?

Roger
AE4RM

> On Sep 1, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> I have to apologize for stating that there were mod kits available for the 
> KXPD2 and KXPD3 that reflect improvements we’ve made over time. Turns out 
> that we only upgrade existing units at the factory, so we can do complete 
> testing before returning them.
> 
> For paddles under warranty that aren’t up to the current configuration, we’ll 
> add the upgrades on request, at no charge.
> 
> For those out of warranty, we charge a flat $79 fee (plus shipping) to do the 
> upgrade. (We just reduced this from $95.)
> 
> If you have an older KXPD3 you’d like to upgrade, please use the following 
> link to place the order:
> 
>http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#kx3
> 
> For older KXPD2s there will be a similar process, but it is not in place yet. 
> We’ll announce it in a week or two.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3

2017-09-01 Thread Mike Flowers

It's probably this:

https://www.amazon.com/Baile-Transmitter-Multi-Point-H-366T-Simultaneously/d
p/B00X7L7HYG


- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC 

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> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 3:29 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3
> 
> I have been using an inexpensive adaptor from Amazon for several weeks
now.
> Can't say what it is as in a joint effort a friend bought two adaptors
after I
> suggested it might couple to his hearing aids and I later bought
inexpensive
> headphones for both of us.  Tag on back says model H-366T.  Hangs toward
the
> ceiling in the Ham shack and I can listen in the den if I like.  Very nice
to be able
> to move around the shack without being entangled in a cord.  Has mic
capability
> as well but haven't looked into that yet.
> 
> Gary W. Harrold
> Retired, Amateur Radio Active
> WA5TED
> 806 790 0966
> 
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>1. Re: KX2, spy radio (Dave Cole)
>2. Submission (Greg)
>3. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Phil Kane)
>4. Re: KX2, spy radio (Mike Morrow)
>5. Re: KX2, spy radio (Mike Morrow)
>6. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Jim Brown)
>7. Re: K1 Discontinued (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
>8. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Richard Lamont)
>9. The times they are a changin. (Glen Torr)
>   10. Re: Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far
>   (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
>   11. Re: KX2, spy radio (Dave Sublette)
>   12. OT: Spy Radio (Ken G Kopp)
>   13. Re: KX2, spy radio (Charlie T, K3ICH)
>   14. Re: KX2, spy radio (Jim Sheldon)
>   15. OT: PC Board Software request (Jim Sheldon)
>   16. Re: Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far
>   (jimk...@aol.com)
>   17. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Phil Kane)
>   18. Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Michael Chowning)
>   19. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
>   20. Y-BOX Labor Day Weekend Special - Free Domestic Shipping
>   (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
>   21. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Mel Farrer)
>   22. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Jim Brown)
>   23. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Jim Brown)
>   24. KX3, IF for XV144 (vhf contesting) (XV144 update?) (Samir Popaja)
>   25. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Mark Goldberg)
>   26. Update on KXPD2 and KXPD3 paddles (Wayne Burdick)
>   27. Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 (Yngvi (TF3Y))
>   28. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Jim Brown)
>   29. Re: Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 (GaryK9GS)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:20:11 -0700
> From: Dave Cole 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio
> Message-ID: <4681b20a-d084-5c02-c0a9-0fb385b1d...@nk7z.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> That and counting change back...
> 
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave
> NK7Z
> http://www.nk7z.net
> 
> On 08/31/2017 07:56 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
> > SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption.
> >
> > Much like cursive writing today is secret code for us "old" people.
> >
> > Chas
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stephen
> > Peterson
> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:34 PM
> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio
> >
> > Imagine what the WWII resistance/spies would have given for a KX2!
> > Fun and interesting to look at the equipment they were using.
> > Steve, Ki7L
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Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3

2017-09-01 Thread Gary Harrold

I have been using an inexpensive adaptor from Amazon for several weeks now.  
Can't say what it is as in a joint effort a friend bought two adaptors after I 
suggested it might couple to his hearing aids and I later bought inexpensive 
headphones for both of us.  Tag on back says model H-366T.  Hangs toward the 
ceiling in the Ham shack and I can listen in the den if I like.  Very nice to 
be able to move around the shack without being entangled in a cord.  Has mic 
capability as well but haven't looked into that yet.  

Gary W. Harrold
Retired, Amateur Radio Active
WA5TED
806 790 0966

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   3. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Phil Kane)
   4. Re: KX2, spy radio (Mike Morrow)
   5. Re: KX2, spy radio (Mike Morrow)
   6. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Jim Brown)
   7. Re: K1 Discontinued (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
   8. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Richard Lamont)
   9. The times they are a changin. (Glen Torr)
  10. Re: Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far
  (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
  11. Re: KX2, spy radio (Dave Sublette)
  12. OT: Spy Radio (Ken G Kopp)
  13. Re: KX2, spy radio (Charlie T, K3ICH)
  14. Re: KX2, spy radio (Jim Sheldon)
  15. OT: PC Board Software request (Jim Sheldon)
  16. Re: Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far
  (jimk...@aol.com)
  17. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Phil Kane)
  18. Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Michael Chowning)
  19. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
  20. Y-BOX Labor Day Weekend Special - Free Domestic Shipping
  (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
  21. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Mel Farrer)
  22. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Jim Brown)
  23. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Jim Brown)
  24. KX3, IF for XV144 (vhf contesting) (XV144 update?) (Samir Popaja)
  25. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Mark Goldberg)
  26. Update on KXPD2 and KXPD3 paddles (Wayne Burdick)
  27. Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 (Yngvi (TF3Y))
  28. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Jim Brown)
  29. Re: Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 (GaryK9GS)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:20:11 -0700
From: Dave Cole 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio
Message-ID: <4681b20a-d084-5c02-c0a9-0fb385b1d...@nk7z.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

That and counting change back...

73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
http://www.nk7z.net

On 08/31/2017 07:56 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
> SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption.
> 
> Much like cursive writing today is secret code for us "old" people.
> 
> Chas
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> Peterson
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:34 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio
> 
> Imagine what the WWII resistance/spies would have given for a KX2!  
> Fun and interesting to look at the equipment they were using.
> Steve, Ki7L
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Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3

2017-09-01 Thread GaryK9GS

I would like this info too.


73,
Gary K9GS
 Original message From: "Yngvi (TF3Y)"  Date: 
9/1/17  3:41 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] 
Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 
Has anyone used a Bluetooth adapter for wireless headphones / headset with
the K3?

Any recommendations or suggestions?
What you stay away from?

73, Yngvi TF3Y
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation

2017-09-01 Thread Jim Brown


Mike,

In addition to the response I wrote earlier and others you have 
received, you should study the list archives. There have been many 
thoughtful and detailed posts on this topic in the last six months. I've 
made several myself.


73, Jim K9YC

On 9/1/2017 10:37 AM, Michael Chowning wrote:

My questions:
  1) Is it best to go with the generator option; and if so, which of the two 
choices above?  Any outstanding reason for this option, and choice of the two?
  2) Is it best to go with the Battery, and solar option; why? Is there reason 
to choose the Lipo over the Deep Cell batteries? I am concerned over the 
choices about battery voltages and amp’s needed to operate as stated above.



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[Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3

2017-09-01 Thread Yngvi (TF3Y)

Has anyone used a Bluetooth adapter for wireless headphones / headset with
the K3?

Any recommendations or suggestions?
What you stay away from?

73, Yngvi TF3Y
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[Elecraft] Update on KXPD2 and KXPD3 paddles

2017-09-01 Thread Wayne Burdick

I have to apologize for stating that there were mod kits available for the 
KXPD2 and KXPD3 that reflect improvements we’ve made over time. Turns out that 
we only upgrade existing units at the factory, so we can do complete testing 
before returning them.

For paddles under warranty that aren’t up to the current configuration, we’ll 
add the upgrades on request, at no charge.

For those out of warranty, we charge a flat $79 fee (plus shipping) to do the 
upgrade. (We just reduced this from $95.)

If you have an older KXPD3 you’d like to upgrade, please use the following link 
to place the order:

http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#kx3

For older KXPD2s there will be a similar process, but it is not in place yet. 
We’ll announce it in a week or two.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation

2017-09-01 Thread Mark Goldberg

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Michael Chowning 
wrote:

> Being there is no better place to get advice than this reflector, I am
> seeking your recommendation.  I have an Elecraft K3, P3, KAT500 & KPA500.
>
> I want to operate somewhat portable with the K3, P3, monitor and laptop,
> buddipole on SSB and digital modes on Field day, and demonstrations on
> outings to community events (like festivals, etc).  My options, I’m
> considering are:
>
> 1) Honda 2000i gasoline generator
> 2) Yamaha EF2000iSV2 (with propane option)
> +++
>

I don't use generators for field day as we are in the woods and don't want
any noise. The inverter generators are quiet though. I have been threatened
that my RV generator will suffer from "Lead Poisoning" if it is run in the
woods. It is very loud.

> 1) Deep Cell 12v 100amp battery (brand, model, control charger?)
> 2) Lipo battery (brand, model, control charger?)
> 2) appropriate solar power panels and controller charge for either of the
> above battery (brand, model, adapters?)
> 
> 
>

I use a solar system with deep cycle lead acid batteries, recently
installed in my RV, but it was standalone. A description with specific
models may be found on:

https://sites.google.com/site/marksrvmods/

The RV has a large inverter for 115V. I previously used a large inverter
standalone. Both are Xantrex, a good brand. They make some RF hash, but
they are tamable with Ferrite cores. Some inverters are very noisy.

200W of solar panels and two 75 Amp Hour batteries will run a 100W ham
station for field day late into the night. I have 4 batteries and 400W of
solar panels to run the RV too. I am really keen on the flexible solar
panels I use. They are very light and efficient. They have gotten lots of
attention whenever I set them out. They may not be the best for a permanent
installation, but for quick setup and teardown they are ideal.

Note that MPPT solar charge controllers are the most efficient but usually
make lots of RF hash. I use a Morningstar PWM controller that has a bang
bang option, that will either be on or off, no RF hash from switching. It
does reduce the actual output of the 400W panels to 300W though.

Lipo batteries do not produce the right voltage for radios. 4 Cells is too
much, 3 cells is too little. LiFePO4 batteries do and they are safer. A 4
cell pack runs from about 14.4 V down to 12 V at 90% discharge, which is
ideal for remote operation. They still take special charging, sometimes
built in to the batteries, but they are very expensive.

I have a 20 Amp Hour from batteryspace,com that I use for long QRP, and I
have a separate special charger. They also have ones with built in charging
/ balancing circuits, but they cost more.

I have two small 4s1p LiFePO4 packs from buddyrc.com for remote QRP, but
they don't seem to sell them any more.

bioennopower.com has lots of options with built in charging circuits that
make it a little easier and they get good reviews. I could not afford to
have the big boys be LiFePO4 though and have not bought from them. A few
hundred Amp Hours of LiFePO4 will be in the thousands of dollars.

For all these batteries, it is a good idea to monitor them and stop using
them when they get down to about 12V. LifePO4 especially can be permanently
damaged if discharged too low.

Good luck in whatever you choose. As you can see, there are many options
with no "best" option for all circumstances.

73,

Mark
W7MLG
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[Elecraft] KX3, IF for XV144 (vhf contesting) (XV144 update?)

2017-09-01 Thread Samir Popaja

Hello,

 

I'm wondering how good the KX3 is for IF with XV144 in VHF contesting.

 

I have use  K3 previously and now )Iwould like to have something little
smaller but with same good performance.

 

Little worried after I read this review:

http://ve3vn.blogspot.se/2015/02/kx3-review-by-qrp-dxer-and-contester.html

 

Is any chance for Elecraft to make (KIT UPDATE) for XV144 to use IF on
14MHz, the most transceivers has much better characteristic on 14MHz then on
28MHz. One can choose if they want to make XV144 with 28 or 14MHz IF,
depending on use (CW, SSB, FM).

 

73' Samir, sm7vzx 

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation

2017-09-01 Thread Jim Brown

There's no way you're going to run a KPA500 on battery.  IMO, power amps 
are totally out of place on FD, which I've always seen as a "barefoot" 
or QRP event.


We do county expeditions for QSO parties like 7QP and CQP, and run two 
or three stations, each consisting of a K3, KPA500, KAT500, and P3/SVGA. 
Each station is powered by a Honda 2000i running in Econmode. They make 
some RF noise, which must be filtered with a good multi-turn ferrite 
choke. Follow the guidelines for chokes on RG8-size cable 
(k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf), and place the choke right at the generator. 
Commercial line filters do NOT work.


My neighbor W6GJB converted his 2000i to propane, and loves it. Mine is 
still burning petrol.


73, Jim K9YC

On 9/1/2017 10:37 AM, Michael Chowning wrote:

Being there is no better place to get advice than this reflector, I am seeking your 
recommendation.  I have an Elecraft K3, P3, KAT500 & KPA500.

I want to operate somewhat portable with the K3, P3, monitor and laptop, 
buddipole on SSB and digital modes on Field day, and demonstrations on outings 
to community events (like festivals, etc).  My options, I’m considering are:

1) Honda 2000i gasoline generator
2) Yamaha EF2000iSV2 (with propane option)
+++

1) Deep Cell 12v 100amp battery (brand, model, control charger?)
2) Lipo battery (brand, model, control charger?)
2) appropriate solar power panels and controller charge for either of the above 
battery (brand, model, adapters?)


My questions:
  1) Is it best to go with the generator option; and if so, which of the two 
choices above?  Any outstanding reason for this option, and choice of the two?
  2) Is it best to go with the Battery, and solar option; why? Is there reason 
to choose the Lipo over the Deep Cell batteries? I am concerned over the 
choices about battery voltages and amp’s needed to operate as stated above.

It’s noisy but the generator option seems on the surface much simpler for 
setup.  However, from the perspective of demonstration of Amateur Radio today, 
the solar and battery option appears to be more demonstrative of the state of 
Amateur Radio today.  Being 77 yrs old, I don’t want to get over my head in 
technology (though I love such).
Thanks for your thoughtful recommendations.
Mike, N8TTR
  


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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source

2017-09-01 Thread Jim Brown


No, that's just about ideal for battery life.

73, Jim

On 9/1/2017 10:32 AM, Phil Kane wrote:

Second, a local computer guru, AE6KS, has observed that most UPS mfrs charge 
batteries at too fast a rate for good battery life.

Both spec sheets show a recharge time of 16 hours.  Is that "too fast"?



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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation

2017-09-01 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft

While I don't this much anymore, I would consider the generator for situations 
where solar is not an option.
Honda 2000i ~$1100

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Solar is more pubic friendly albeit more ground space.Will handle your power 
load during the day and quite a while on the battery alone.

Mel, K6KBE

  From: Michael Chowning 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 10:54 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation
   
Being there is no better place to get advice than this reflector, I am seeking 
your recommendation.  I have an Elecraft K3, P3, KAT500 & KPA500.

I want to operate somewhat portable with the K3, P3, monitor and laptop, 
buddipole on SSB and digital modes on Field day, and demonstrations on outings 
to community events (like festivals, etc).  My options, I’m considering are:

1) Honda 2000i gasoline generator
2) Yamaha EF2000iSV2 (with propane option)
+++

1) Deep Cell 12v 100amp battery (brand, model, control charger?)
2) Lipo battery (brand, model, control charger?)
2) appropriate solar power panels and controller charge for either of the above 
battery (brand, model, adapters?)


My questions:
 1) Is it best to go with the generator option; and if so, which of the two 
choices above?  Any outstanding reason for this option, and choice of the two?
 2) Is it best to go with the Battery, and solar option; why? Is there reason 
to choose the Lipo over the Deep Cell batteries? I am concerned over the 
choices about battery voltages and amp’s needed to operate as stated above.

It’s noisy but the generator option seems on the surface much simpler for 
setup.  However, from the perspective of demonstration of Amateur Radio today, 
the solar and battery option appears to be more demonstrative of the state of 
Amateur Radio today.  Being 77 yrs old, I don’t want to get over my head in 
technology (though I love such).
Thanks for your thoughtful recommendations.
      Mike, N8TTR
 

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[Elecraft] Y-BOX Labor Day Weekend Special - Free Domestic Shipping

2017-09-01 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV

All Y-BOX orders received before midnight Pacific Time on Labor Day (by
2017-09-05 07:00 UTC) will qualify for *free domestic shipping via USPS
Priority Mail*.  Limit:  3 Y-BOXs per customer.

International orders received by the same deadline will qualify for
discounted shipping (discounted by same dollar amount as domestic shipping).

The Y-BOX is a 4-way passive splitter and breakout box for the Elecraft K3
and K3S accessory port. The main value is the elimination of a tangle of
unreliable Y-Cable connections when you have multiple devices that all need
to connect to the same ACC/AUX connector, including:

   1. KAT500 / KPA500 / KPA1500 cable (KPAK3AUX).
   2. Band Decoder
   3. FSK keying interface
   4. SO2R box
   5. Remote Rig Interface

The Y-BOX can also be used as a breakout box for any device that uses a
15-pin "VGA" style accessory connector (DE-15), including the Flex 6000
series, ACOM Amplifiers, and the 4O3A Antenna Genius.

For photos, details, and the order link, please visit my web site. Order
any time before midnight PT Monday to receive free domestic shipping:

https://bit.ly/Y-BOX

Thanks, and Happy Labor Day!

73,
Bob, N6TV
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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source

2017-09-01 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Keep in mind that by code, a device plugged into a 15 amp circuit must 
not draw more than 12 amps continuous.


When you get into the larger UPSes, they might want to charge really 
fast, but charging at a high rate and carrying the rated load will 
exceed 12 amps.


So depending on the rating of the unit, and the recommended input 
circuit, some models will definitely charge slow.


16 hours is not too fast for charging.  If the UPS can't carry the load 
for ten hours, then the discharge rate is WAY TOO FAST.


Most UPSes are designed to carry the load for about 15 minutes, so if 
you aren't killing the battery charging, you're killing it discharging.


73 -- Lynn

On 9/1/2017 10:32 AM, Phil Kane wrote:

Second, a local computer guru, AE6KS, has observed that most UPS mfrs charge 
batteries at too fast a rate for good battery life.



Both spec sheets show a recharge time of 16 hours.  Is that "too fast"?

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[Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation

2017-09-01 Thread Michael Chowning

Being there is no better place to get advice than this reflector, I am seeking 
your recommendation.  I have an Elecraft K3, P3, KAT500 & KPA500.

I want to operate somewhat portable with the K3, P3, monitor and laptop, 
buddipole on SSB and digital modes on Field day, and demonstrations on outings 
to community events (like festivals, etc).  My options, I’m considering are:

1) Honda 2000i gasoline generator
2) Yamaha EF2000iSV2 (with propane option)
+++

1) Deep Cell 12v 100amp battery (brand, model, control charger?)
2) Lipo battery (brand, model, control charger?)
2) appropriate solar power panels and controller charge for either of the above 
battery (brand, model, adapters?)


My questions:
 1) Is it best to go with the generator option; and if so, which of the two 
choices above?  Any outstanding reason for this option, and choice of the two?
 2) Is it best to go with the Battery, and solar option; why? Is there reason 
to choose the Lipo over the Deep Cell batteries? I am concerned over the 
choices about battery voltages and amp’s needed to operate as stated above.

It’s noisy but the generator option seems on the surface much simpler for 
setup.  However, from the perspective of demonstration of Amateur Radio today, 
the solar and battery option appears to be more demonstrative of the state of 
Amateur Radio today.  Being 77 yrs old, I don’t want to get over my head in 
technology (though I love such).
Thanks for your thoughtful recommendations.
   Mike, N8TTR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source

2017-09-01 Thread Phil Kane

On 8/31/2017 2:56 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> All of the APC units for which I've seen spec sheets are FCC Part 15> Class A 
> (the industrial spec, ILLEGAL to sell for residential use,>
roughly 20 dB worse than Class B).

The spec sheets for both of my APC UPS devices (BE550R and BX1500G)
specify FCC Part 15 Class B.

> Second, a local computer guru, AE6KS, has observed that most UPS mfrs charge 
> batteries at too fast a rate for good battery life. 

Both spec sheets show a recharge time of 16 hours.  Is that "too fast"?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far

2017-09-01 Thread Jim Stahl via Elecraft


 For a couple of photos of the joys of playing with Elecraft radios, check out 
my operation in the 2017 ARRL DX CW contest. The photos don't include my K3, 
and would not likely be considered suitable for publication, but anyway:

http://floridacontestgroup.org/contest-gazette/

And check out page 10 of the March 2017 issue.

Contesting is good when you head to the salt water!

BTW, I have since discovered that the Prius, when parked with the car "ON", 
will keep the 12 volt battery pretty well charged from the hybrid battery, with 
little or no RFI. 


73   -  Jim   K8MR





 

 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
To: Wayne Burdick 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector ; KX3 
Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 7:28 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far

Wayne,These should be forwarded to Margaret and me for our promo 
use.Ericelecraft.com_..._> On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Wayne Burdick 
 wrote:> > I’ve received so many great photos already that I 
won’t be able to thank everyone personally. But keep ‘em coming.> > Clearly 
some folks had a lot more fun than I did this summer. > > 73,> Wayne> N6KR> 

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[Elecraft] OT: PC Board Software request

2017-09-01 Thread Jim Sheldon

Anyone out there have an old copy of the "Copper Connection" PCB 
software that no longer use and are willling to part with?  Since 
Express PCB bought them out I can't find the software anymore.  I need 
something that will produce the "Gerber" files that pretty much all the 
PCB manufacturers need to do production PCB's even in limited 
quantities.


Please reply off list to keep the clutter (and Eric's wrath) to a 
minimum - LOL.


Jim - W0EB

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio

2017-09-01 Thread Jim Sheldon

Naw, he just figured out a practical way to use it in smaller radios by 
the invention of the narrow bandwidth, very steep skirted "mechanical" 
filter to lop off the unwanted sideband (if you consider the radios of 
that day smaller - LOL).  The real use of SSB came when General LeMay of 
SAC adopted it for their world wide HF communications network and 
propagation conditions during that time were so good that it was almost 
impossible NOT to communicate anywhere you wanted to with SSB.


W0EB

-- Original Message --
From: "Charlie T, K3ICH" 
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 9/1/2017 8:09:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio

And here I thought Art Collins invented SSB, like algore invented the 
internet (wink-wink)


Chas


(For all who take life too seriously this WAS intended to be humorous)

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sublette

Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:46 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio

As a former CT — I enjoyed the web page.  Thanks for sharing.

Dave, K4TO

On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:09 AM, Mike Morrow  wrote:

Chas wrote:


SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption.


Not even remotely so...SSB technology goes back decades before WWII.

From Wikipedia:

"The first U.S. patent for SSB modulation was applied for on December 
1, 1915 by John Renshaw Carson. The U.S. Navy experimented with SSB 
over its radio circuits before World War I.  SSB first entered 
commercial service on January 7, 1927 on the longwave transatlantic 
public radiotelephone circuit between New York and London."


Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio

2017-09-01 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH

And here I thought Art Collins invented SSB, like algore invented the internet 
(wink-wink)

Chas


(For all who take life too seriously this WAS intended to be humorous)

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sublette
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:46 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio

As a former CT — I enjoyed the web page.  Thanks for sharing.

Dave, K4TO
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:09 AM, Mike Morrow  wrote:
> 
> Chas wrote:
> 
>> SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption.
> 
> Not even remotely so...SSB technology goes back decades before WWII.
> 
> From Wikipedia:
> 
> "The first U.S. patent for SSB modulation was applied for on December 1, 1915 
> by John Renshaw Carson. The U.S. Navy experimented with SSB over its radio 
> circuits before World War I.  SSB first entered commercial service on January 
> 7, 1927 on the longwave transatlantic public radiotelephone circuit between 
> New York and London."
> 
> Mike / KK5F
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[Elecraft] OT: Spy Radio

2017-09-01 Thread Ken G Kopp

Google "RS-6".  I had a set many years ago.  Got them via Navy MARS as
N0SJP.

73!

K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio

2017-09-01 Thread Dave Sublette

As a former CT — I enjoyed the web page.  Thanks for sharing.

Dave, K4TO
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:09 AM, Mike Morrow  wrote:
> 
> Chas wrote:
> 
>> SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption.
> 
> Not even remotely so...SSB technology goes back decades before WWII.
> 
> From Wikipedia:
> 
> "The first U.S. patent for SSB modulation was applied for on December 1, 1915 
> by John Renshaw Carson. The U.S. Navy experimented with SSB over its radio 
> circuits before World War I.  SSB first entered commercial service on January 
> 7, 1927 on the longwave transatlantic public radiotelephone circuit between 
> New York and London."
> 
> Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far

2017-09-01 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Wayne,

These should be forwarded to Margaret and me for our promo use.

Eric
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> On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> I’ve received so many great photos already that I won’t be able to thank 
> everyone personally. But keep ‘em coming.
> 
> Clearly some folks had a lot more fun than I did this summer. 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> We’re looking for photos of you, your Elecraft portable gear, and great 
>> outdoor locations to use in an upcoming newsletter article. We might also 
>> use them on our website or in promotional literature.
>> 
>> If you have photos you’d like to share, please send them to me directly. I 
>> can’t guarantee they’ll be used now; possibly later. 
>> 
>> Please include one sentence that could be used as a caption. Extra points 
>> for humor or lessons learned.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Elecraft] The times they are a changin.

2017-09-01 Thread Glen Torr

Hi Ho All,

Absolutely no disrespect here, I am an extremely loyal and prolific
Elecraft user/builder.

The KX1 and K1 are gone and the KPA 1500 is ascending.

I have ordered a QRP Labs QCX, a very innovative and kit oriented radio.

The mantle at the lower end has moved on.

Cheers,

Glen VK1FB
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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source

2017-09-01 Thread Richard Lamont

On 31/08/17 22:56, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 8/31/2017 11:35 AM, Tox wrote:
>> I had a couple racks of APC
>> SmartUPS 2000 units with daisychained batteries to give extended
>> holdup to
>> a couple of racks of telecom and server hw. No clue how RF noisy those
>> units are, though.
> 
> All of the APC units for which I've seen spec sheets are FCC Part 15
> Class A (the industrial spec, ILLEGAL to sell for residential use,
> roughly 20 dB worse than Class B).

I had a SmartUPS 750, and it was very bad. Put out crud all the way from
VLF to VHF. I threw it away in the end. In the shack I use a much older
APC Back-UPS 500 for the computer, which doesn't seem to cause any
problems. I've had to replace the battery every 3-4 years, but that's to
be expected.


73,
Richard G4DYA
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

2017-09-01 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS

Roney,
congrats for your K1 jewel > nice pics on Flickr. 
Yes, I am sure you will be really satisfied with that little rig. If it is
properly aligned then it works like champ anywhere you are.
maybe it is time to buy some additional parts until they will be gone...
Good luck!
73 - Petr, OK1RP



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