Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] problems with PowerBook G4

2005-09-22 Thread Nicholas S-A
Yes, it turns out that is the problem! The router somehow got 
misconfigured as 0.0.0.0 instead of 10.0.1.1.

here is ifconfig:
bond0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00
  BROADCAST MASTER MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

dummy0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 86:DB:59:06:1D:3C
  BROADCAST NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:93:80:24:F2
  inet addr:10.0.1.200  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:1374 (1.3 Kb)  TX bytes:1174 (1.1 Kb)
  Interrupt:41 Base address:0x7400

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:65:16:B7:DD
  inet addr:10.0.1.12  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:1910 (1.8 Kb)  TX bytes:3002 (2.9 Kb)
  Interrupt:57

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:280 (280.0 b)  TX bytes:280 (280.0 b)

and route -n:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  
irtt Iface
10.0.1.0*   255.255.255.0   U 0 0  
0 eth0
10.0.1.0*   255.255.255.0   U 0 0  
0 eth1
loopbacklocalhost   255.0.0.0   UG0 0  
0 lo


Is the right command to use 10.0.1.1 as a router (for both eth1 and 
eth0) 'route add default gw 10.0.1.1'? Or is it something else? That is 
what I got from manning route, but I don't what to mess anything up by 
having conflicting IP addresses.

thanks
nick
On Sep 22, 2005, at 4:29 AM, Matti Bickel wrote:


Nicholas S-A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The output is actually this error from 'man connect':
[ENETUNREACH]  The network isn't reachable from this host.


Since you can reach your router: have you checked *which* interface
reaches the router?
What's the output of route -n?

Sorry, just a wild guess.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: gmail

2005-09-22 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi,

On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 22:35 -0700, Stephen Micheals wrote:
 i also have about 200 free for anyone that would like to have one :)
 
 On 9/21/05, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  heck I got 99 invites just collecting dust...  :)

I came late, but if you want gmail invites or if you have spare invites,
go to http://www.highwayman.org/gmail/  They have about 700.  You ask
for one, and then donate yours back to them for the next person in the
list.  As you can see, it works so well, they have 100's spare.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge gnome

2005-09-22 Thread Tamas Sarga

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Stewart Taylor wrote:


 Hi

 Trivial yes, but easily overlooked. I
 have 1.6 GB free and the file length is
 correct.

 Stewart
  Very trivial question. Have you got enough freespace? Is the saved
  file equal in size with the said by wget?
 
  Cheers,
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Hi,

If I saw well, then the file had been downloaded before you tried to
emerge (at least the + signs in wget output means it to me). Maybe the
permissions on the downloaded file isn't correct. If nothing else helps I
would try to emerge --sync, mv the file to somewhere and retry the
emerge.

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] complete mess with dev-lang/php and dev-php/php

2005-09-22 Thread Richard Brown
On 21/09/05, Bruno Lustosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 blah blah blah

http://stu.gnqs.org/diary/index.php

http://svn.gnqs.org/projects/gentoo-php-overlay/

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Re: [gentoo-user] transfer large files via samba cause system freeze

2005-09-22 Thread Qiangning Hong
Heinz Sporn wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 22.09.2005, 11:03 +0800 schrieb Qiangning Hong:
 
I tried to transfer a large file (~300MB) to a windows machine from my
gentoo laptop:

# mount -t cifs //winbox/movies /mnt/samba -o iocharset=utf8,umask=
 
 
 What if you just try
 mount -o username=xxx //winbox/movies /mnt/samba ?
 
 Does this resolve to a smb type mount (instead of CIFS)? Does it work
 better? Kernel options for SMB / CIFS ?

Isn't CIFS considered as a better SMBFS?

My winbox is a Chinese version windows, use smbfs will cause the
filename containing Chinese characters messed up.  When use cifs with -o
iocharset=utf8, these characters are resolved correctly.

What do you mean of Kernal options for SMB / CIFS?  I just build them
as modules.

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Re: [gentoo-user] transfer large files via samba cause system freeze

2005-09-22 Thread Heinz Sporn
Am Donnerstag, den 22.09.2005, 16:26 +0800 schrieb Qiangning Hong:
 Heinz Sporn wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, den 22.09.2005, 11:03 +0800 schrieb Qiangning Hong:
  
 I tried to transfer a large file (~300MB) to a windows machine from my
 gentoo laptop:
 
 # mount -t cifs //winbox/movies /mnt/samba -o iocharset=utf8,umask=
  
  
  What if you just try
  mount -o username=xxx //winbox/movies /mnt/samba ?
  
  Does this resolve to a smb type mount (instead of CIFS)? Does it work
  better? Kernel options for SMB / CIFS ?
 
 Isn't CIFS considered as a better SMBFS?

It's been said. Still - do you have both SMBFS and CIFS support built
into your kernel, or just CIFS? If the later is true I would include
SMBFS as well and try the same thing with good old SMB as well (you may
use both simultanously anyway).

Interessting details missing: your kernel and windoze version?

 
 My winbox is a Chinese version windows, use smbfs will cause the
 filename containing Chinese characters messed up.  When use cifs with -o
 iocharset=utf8, these characters are resolved correctly.
 
 What do you mean of Kernal options for SMB / CIFS?  I just build them
 as modules.
 
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[gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Sascha Lucas

Hi,

I'm thinking of a small footprint gentoo produced in this way:

1) install everything you need
2) note current system time
3) reboot and do all operations you need in this small gentoo
4) remount with noatime
5) find all files in the FS that have an atime before the system time you
   note in 2)
6) delete all files found in 5); they were not accessed, so we don't need
   them?

What do you think about this? Does it have a chance to work?

THX,

Sascha.

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RE: [gentoo-user] USB modem

2005-09-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Thanasis Papakonstantinou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 September 2005 00:10
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] USB modem
 
 
 Can you recommend an external *USB* dialup PSTN modem, which 
 will work 
 100-90% in Gento 2.6.13r1 ?
 
 After failing to setup my laptop's mart link winmodem (it 
 can't be done, 
 i'll have to wait), a USB modem is the only solution

Sorry, I haven't a direct answer to your question, only a warning:
check that the supposedly external modem is a real external hardware
modem.  There's a few around which in reality are software winmodems
in-a-box.  You plug them in and then spend a lot of time wondering why
it doesn't work.  :-@

Googling around once you set your eyes on a particular USB modem usually
provides some useful clues.
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Re: [gentoo-user] samba

2005-09-22 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr

Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
I keep getting this error, 
error libsmb programs must not be setuid root?


This after upgrading samba. The config seems alright, I just can't mount any 
shares due to this error.


Mike

Check out the Gentoo forums. I had this same problem and found a fix there.

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID

2005-09-22 Thread brettholcomb
Thank you both for the comments.  This helps.
 
 From: Heinz Sporn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/09/22 Thu AM 01:42:20 EDT
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 CC: Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID
 
 Am Donnerstag, den 22.09.2005, 00:59 -0400 schrieb Ron Bickers:
  On Wed September 21 2005 09:51 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
  
   1.  For SATA RAID what cards and drives do you recommend for a desktop
   system running Gentoo.  I will be doing some audio recording on a dual AMD
   1.6 with 2 gig
   of memory
  
  I'm running several Seagate 200GB drives with the SATA controllers on the 
  Intel 915G boards I have.  The driver is included with the kernel 
  (ata_piix) 
  and I've had no problems with it.  Linux treats it as a SCSI device.  If 
  you're buying a separate card, you might want to check around for 
  availability and stability of the drivers first.
 
 It seems as if I'm having pretty much the same layout in several of my
 servers. Running Software Raid 1 on 200GB Seagate SATA drives. Worked
 out of the box with vanilla sources 2.6.12.5. I recommend using mdadm to
 build the array instead of using the older RAID tools described in the
 Gentoo Wiki.
 
  
  In my experience, audio recording has relatively low hardware requirements 
  for today's machines, unless you're trying to do some heaving 
  encoding/compressing on-the-fly.
  
   2.  If I went with SATA how much does using software RAID and LVM hurt me?
  
  That depends on what you mean by RAID (0, 1, 5, etc.) and what you want out 
  of it.  I have two 200GB SATA drives setup with LVM's striping and the read 
  and write throughput is considerably faster (benchmarked and perceived) 
  than 
  with one drive.
  
   3.  Anything else I should know?
  
  Your choice of file system may make as much of a difference as anything.  
  Consider running tests if you aren't married to one already.
  
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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID

2005-09-22 Thread brettholcomb
My moterboard (Tyan Tiger) does nto have SATA support so I need a separate card.

For RAID I'm running RAID10 on an existing SCSI system - two RAID1 combined to 
a RAID0 but I'm open to better things.

Filesystem of choice is XFS but what did you find?

 
 From: Ron Bickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/09/22 Thu AM 12:59:51 EDT
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 CC: Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID
 
 On Wed September 21 2005 09:51 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 
  1.  For SATA RAID what cards and drives do you recommend for a desktop
  system running Gentoo.  I will be doing some audio recording on a dual AMD
  1.6 with 2 gig
  of memory
 
 I'm running several Seagate 200GB drives with the SATA controllers on the 
 Intel 915G boards I have.  The driver is included with the kernel (ata_piix) 
 and I've had no problems with it.  Linux treats it as a SCSI device.  If 
 you're buying a separate card, you might want to check around for 
 availability and stability of the drivers first.
 
 In my experience, audio recording has relatively low hardware requirements 
 for today's machines, unless you're trying to do some heaving 
 encoding/compressing on-the-fly.
 
  2.  If I went with SATA how much does using software RAID and LVM hurt me?
 
 That depends on what you mean by RAID (0, 1, 5, etc.) and what you want out 
 of it.  I have two 200GB SATA drives setup with LVM's striping and the read 
 and write throughput is considerably faster (benchmarked and perceived) than 
 with one drive.
 
  3.  Anything else I should know?
 
 Your choice of file system may make as much of a difference as anything.  
 Consider running tests if you aren't married to one already.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] evolution 2.4 inline pgp sign/encrypt support ?

2005-09-22 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 11:11 -0700, gentuxx wrote:
 I used to be a die-hard evolution user, but then something I emerged
 and/or updated broke all of the icons in the display, so I stopped
 using it.  (Seems fixed now, though, I just checked ;-) )  Anyhow, I
 suspect that this is more likely a function of the recipient.  I sent
 a signed test message to a couple gmail accounts, one is received by
 Outlook through the POP interface, and also this account (which is
 normally viewed using Thunderbird).  I didn't receive the msg sent to
 this account, so I can't be sure (seems to be a quirk of Thunderbird,
 and possibly Kmail), but the message received by Outlook had the
 signature attached.  The message in the gmail web interface to this
 account, was signed inline.
 
I sent a message to gmail as well as another imap a/c and it seems gmail
shows the attached signature along with the message. Its not inline.
I sent an inline signed message from another client and in evolution 2.4
it displayed it correctly, however in 2.2.3, it didn't display it
corectly. 
So my guess is, evolution 2.4 has support to read inline
signed/encrypted messages properly but no support to sign/encrypt
inline.

-R'twick


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update world build problem

2005-09-22 Thread John Jolet
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 10:36 +0200, Tamas Sarga wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, John Jolet wrote:
 
 
  I'm having a problem doing an emerge --update world OR system on a new
  system, just set up today using the minimal boot cd, downloading the
  latest stage3 file for pentium 4, and the latest portage snapshot.  It
  seems to be dying on the build for glibc.  trying to move xtrace.new to
  xtrace (looong path omitted).  I don't see a failure on the xtrace build
  step right above that.  What gives?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 What is the last 50 lines of emerge?
darn, i've powered down that system.  filed a bug at b.g.o, though.

 Haven't you change any not-too-wise-to-change-in-case-of-stage3 attributes, 
 such as CHOST, have you?
 
Nah, didn't change a thing
 NB.: Only do emerge --update world is not security wise solution, 'cause
 the not direct dependencies won't be updated. Do emerge --deep --update
 world instead!
 
yeah, doing the emerge --update because the --deep blew up with this.
got an email that the bug is resolved, i'll read the notice when i get
in to work
 HTH.
 Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread Mauro Faccenda
Hi all,

Does anyone can recommend a well-supported inkjet printer for using with 
Linux?

Thanks in advance,

Mauro
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: gmail

2005-09-22 Thread danielhf
well, if you need one, tell me your address.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 05:16:31PM -0400, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 I am sure I'll get flamed for this, but I am in need of a gmail account, 
 anyone have one to give?
 
 Mike
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RE: [gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Nebinger
 Does anyone can recommend a well-supported inkjet printer for using with
 Linux?
 

You can pretty much go with any printer.  Cups supports a wide range of
printers.  If you're worried about a particular product, the cups site can
help you...


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RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems

2005-09-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Rupert Young (Restart) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 September 2005 12:25
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems
 
 
 Thanks. Unless anyone else has any suggestions I will try it.
 
 Can anyone else confirm this is the way to go before I try?

It depends how patient you are.  The suggested fix will bring your
machine up to an as new condition.  On the other hand, it might
unnecessarily rebuilt packages that may not be broken or need updating
(yet) and will take years to complete (well, it depends on how fast your
machine is :-)  That said I would think that after a whole year there
wouldn't be much left in portage, which has not a new ebuild?

As an alternative, if your machine is not totally hosed you could start
from the bottom up rebuilding the core packages and after a fresh
--sync, update the whole world.  Try re-emerging the gentoo toolkit:
gcc-config glibc binutils libstdc++.  Run # etc-update and # env-update
 source /etc/profile as required and rebuild portage; do another
--sync; and then emerge -upDv world to see what comes up in need for an
update.

However, if basic compilers, etc. are broken you will not be able to
re-emerge the toolkit and the solution suggested by Dave remains the
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RE: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Sascha Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 September 2005 13:01
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo
 
 
  no
 
  what about stuff that doesn't run all the time? stuff that cro needs
  etc?
 
 I realy know what will run on such a system. Think of a router, or a 
 datacollector. Pleas tell me what is cro?

I believe he meant cron.

Besides cron jobs and associated executables, there's files which are
accessed intermittently and written/read from even more sparsely.
Unless you somehow log the file paths for all such interactions how will
you ever know what to delete and what not?  I guess you can keep backups
and experiment so that you don't find out something's missing the hard
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RE: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Nebinger
 What do you think about this? Does it have a chance to work?

I don't think it stands a snowball's chance in ...  Well, you get the idea.

Sascha, I'm thinking that if you start with a bare-bones handbook install
you'll have a minimum system, at least for gentoo support.  It won't have X,
desktops, many of the services  tools, etc.

If you're thinking about an embedded device (i.e. a router) then you
wouldn't want to use a source-based install like gentoo on it, you'd either
want to use a binary distribution (many examples of minimum linux
distributions out there, check http://www.distrowatch.com for variations) or
you could create a home-brew distribution from a customized setup based upon
gentoo, but a hand-generated distrib could be difficult to pull together
(difficult to identify all of necessary files that must be on the distro).
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread John Jolet
On Thursday 22 September 2005 07:34, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
 Hi all,

 Does anyone can recommend a well-supported inkjet printer for using with
 Linux?

 Thanks in advance,

 Mauro
I have an hp 3740 that works great.
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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread Paweł Madej

John Jolet wrote:

On Thursday 22 September 2005 07:51, Dave Nebinger wrote:


I'd add here, though, that almost no lexmark inkjets are supported.


I would not agree with it. Try install gimp-print with +ppd use flag 
there are some of them supported. The only problem with my Lexmark Z53 
which I got is how to calibrate cardriges (not the colors) - It prints 
text ok but tables are crashed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread John J. Foster
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 09:34:13AM -0300, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone can recommend a well-supported inkjet printer for using with 
 Linux?
 

HP Deskjet 5550 works just fine

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[gentoo-user] kde-meta won't emerge

2005-09-22 Thread henkg
Hello,

I'm trying to emerge kde-meta. Before I have removed about every kde 
package to start as clean as possible. The merge fails here:

 Applying xdelta: kdeaddons-3.4.0-3.4.1.tar.xdelta
...

/usr/qt/3/bin/moc ./kfile_cert.h -o kfile_cert.moc
/bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=compile --tag=CXX i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/kde/3.4/include -I/usr/qt/3/include -I.  
 -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT  -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef 
-ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion 
-Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG 
-O2 -O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute 
-fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE 
-DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION  -c -o 
kfile_cert.lo `test -f 'kfile_cert.cpp' || echo './'`kfile_cert.cpp
kfile_cert.cpp: In function `KSSLCertificate* readCertFromFile(const QString)
   ':
kfile_cert.cpp:110: error: `ERR_clear_error' undeclared (first use this 
   function)
kfile_cert.cpp:110: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
   for each function it appears in.)
kfile_cert.cpp:127: error: `d2i_X509' undeclared (first use this function)
kfile_cert.cpp:130: error: `X509_free' undeclared (first use this function)
kfile_cert.cpp: In member function `virtual bool 
   CertPlugin::readInfo(KFileMetaInfo, unsigned int)':
kfile_cert.cpp:156: error: `ERR_clear_error' undeclared (first use this 
   function)
make[3]: *** [kfile_cert.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-3.4.1/work/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-3.4.1/kfile-plugins/cert'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-3.4.1/work/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-3.4.1/kfile-plugins'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-3.4.1/work/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-3.4.1'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: kde-base/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-3.4.1 failed.
!!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 170, Exitcode 2
!!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

Any idea what this is and how to solve it?

Thanks.

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[gentoo-user] smartctl: target a signle disk of a scsi raid array, not the raid array?

2005-09-22 Thread fire-eyes
How do I use smartctl (smartmontools) on a single disk in a scsi raid
array? I've done it before, I just forget how. /dev/sda is the entire
array, not an individual disk.

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Re: [gentoo-user] System update problems

2005-09-22 Thread Richard Fish

Rupert Young (Restart) wrote:


Thanks. Unless anyone else has any suggestions I will try it.

Can anyone else confirm this is the way to go before I try?

Regards,

Rupert 
 



Well, since the library that the gcc build is complaining about is libc, 
I might suggest:


emerge --oneshot sys-libs/glibc

Then try your update again.  If it still fails, then go with Dave's 
suggestion.


-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] script in /etc/cron.daily never runs

2005-09-22 Thread Matt Randolph

Dave Nebinger wrote:


Also, check that the environment in the cron script is correct. It does
not execute with the environment that you sit down at a terminal 
with, in particular $PATH.



Another tip RE: environment variables  cron, if you submit the job 
via at (sys-process/at), it will create an executable script in 
/var/spool/at/atjobs for running your submitted job, but the script 
includes the environment values from the session used to submit the job.


So after submission via at, you can take the atjob file, copy it to 
your /etc/cron.* directory and you'll have everything you need 
regarding environment.


Dave



Thank you for the suggestion.  I'll have to experiment with this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] script in /etc/cron.daily never runs

2005-09-22 Thread Matt Randolph

Renat Golubchyk wrote:


On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:15:04 -0500 John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 17:11 -0400, Matt Randolph wrote:
   


I have a script in /etc/cron.daily that never runs.  It works
properly when run manually and it's been in there for weeks (and a
reboot or two).

I'm using vixie-cron.
 



Is the executable bit set? Otherwise run chmod u+x scriptname.

 


cron.daily doesn't get run from cron.  gets run out of anacrondo
you have anacron installed?
   



That's wrong. I don't have anacron installed, I have plain vixie-cron,
and cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} gets run from cron. Here are the
relevant lines from /etc/crontab:

# check scripts in cron.hourly, cron.daily, cron.weekly and cron.monthly
0* * * *  root  rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly
30   6 * * *  root  rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily
15   7 * * 6  root  rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.weekly
08 1 * *  root  rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.monthly
*/10 * * * *  root  test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons


Cheers,
Renat

 



Thanks to everyone for their replies, but especially to Renat, Peter and 
Willie.  Looking again, I saw that the line pertaining to run-crons was 
commented out.  Perhaps it's time for me to increase the size of my 
console font.  ;-)


Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] smartctl: target a signle disk of a scsi raid array, not the raid array?

2005-09-22 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, fire-eyes wrote:

 How do I use smartctl (smartmontools) on a single disk in a scsi raid
 array? I've done it before, I just forget how. /dev/sda is the entire
 array, not an individual disk.

You have hardware RAID right? I think 3Ware is one of the RAID controllers
that smartctl can query through and access the disks directly - I dont
know what other brands it can work through this way. (Maybe ask on the
smartmontools mailing list?).

Some RAID controllers have Linux utilities available that allow you to
control the card or access the disks from the command-line - check with
your card manufacturer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Sascha Lucas wrote:

 I realy know what will run on such a system. Think of a router, or a
 datacollector.

You might want to look at GNAP from the Embedded Gentoo project - it
sounds close to the minimal setup you are looking for.

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap.xml

To get the tools: emerge gnap gnap-dev

Im interested in this and currently also working my way through O'Reilly's
Building Embedded Linux Systems book:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/belinuxsys/



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RE: [gentoo-user] USB modem

2005-09-22 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Michael Kintzios wrote:

 Googling around once you set your eyes on a particular USB modem usually
 provides some useful clues.

Also reading /usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/acm.txt might be useful.


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[gentoo-user] Firefox crashes over Flash

2005-09-22 Thread Grant
Does anyone else's Firefox crash whenever it hits a page with Flash on
it?  If I start a new .mozilla folder and always choose to not
download Flash, everything is fine.  As soon as I download Flash, it
starts crashing whenever it sees a Flash file.

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] netqmail-1.05 ebuild

2005-09-22 Thread Brian Downey

Howdy Gentooers.

I've created a relatively simple ebuild that strictly follows Dave  
Sill's Life with qmail instructions found at http:// 
www.lifewithqmail.org.  I'd be happy if a few other folks could test  
it out as well.


From the web page:

qmail mail server software, installed and patched per http:// 
www.lifewithqmail.org


NOTE: This ebuild breaks and differs from standard and accepted  
Gentoo conventions, with strict intention of following the Life With  
qmail installation instructions as closely as possible; but  
automating the process with Portage. Therefore, you may notice  
untypical behavior from this package (no /etc/init.d/ script, for  
instance).


AGAIN, if you're looking for qmail done the Gentoo way, use the  
Gentooified qmail package included in portage; you will be happier.  
However, if you are a minimalist and prefer things done according to  
DJB himself and most of the qmail pros on the qmail mailing list,  
look no further.


FINAL NOTE: ucspi-tcp and daemontools are installed along with  
netqmail in this ebuild, per the LWQ guide. You will receive blocks  
from portage if those packages have been installed seperately, so  
don't fret!



The ebuild can be grabbed from here:
http://briandowney.net/? 
page=linuxsection=gentooebuildsebuild=netqmail

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes over Flash

2005-09-22 Thread Bruno Lustosa
On 9/22/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone else's Firefox crash whenever it hits a page with Flash onit?If I start a new .mozilla folder and always choose to notdownload Flash, everything is fine.As soon as I download Flash, itstarts crashing whenever it sees a Flash file.
Flash
is working fine here, although I use the flashblock extension to be
able to choose what flash content I want to see. How are you installing
the flash plugin?-- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora| Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ: 1406477Rio de Janeiro - Brazil|


[gentoo-user] Re: idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Thursday 22 September 2005 15:33, Michael Kintzios wrote:
 Besides cron jobs and associated executables, there's files which are
 accessed intermittently and written/read from even more sparsely.
 Unless you somehow log the file paths for all such interactions how
 will you ever know what to delete and what not?  I guess you can keep
 backups and experiment so that you don't find out something's missing
 the hard way, next time you decide to reboot.

It's way easier to mount the partition with atime option to track 
every file access time.

Search for -atime -anewer and similar find options.

Anyway this kind of approach can lead to instabilities, when it comes 
the moment your pc enters a state it never entered before and need a 
file deleted for scarce usage...

Double check what to delete, and leave everything unknown in its 
place :-)

Just my 2cts

Ciao
Francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes over Flash

2005-09-22 Thread Martin S
I find that Firefox has become much more unstable, but i can't figure
out what i installed latest. haven't really installed much of anything
at all lately.
it crashes on most pages sooner or later - even those it has rendered before :(
Anyone else seen this?

MArtin S

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID

2005-09-22 Thread Ron Bickers
On Thu September 22 2005 07:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For RAID I'm running RAID10 on an existing SCSI system - two RAID1
 combined to a RAID0 but I'm open to better things.

I don't have any experience with RAID10, but I've read good things about it.

 Filesystem of choice is XFS but what did you find?

In my primitive tests, XFS showed good performance for really large files -- 
like raw video files in the gigabytes (as it was designed to do), but small 
and normal file size performance is what I needed more and it wasn't 
ideal.  Earlier this year, I used XFS for several months on two servers and 
I liked it.  However, through a bizarre series of power problems, I found 
parts of files wiped out with filler characters.  That made me really 
nervous so I dropped it.

I've had good stability with EXT3 in the past, but its performance wasn't 
something to cheer about.  Despite the problems I had with Red Hat Linux 
support for ReiserFS a few years ago, I use it in most cases now.  It has 
been stable for a while and does a great job for what I need; and of course 
I'm not using a Red Hat OS anymore.  If you're happy with the performance, 
there's no need to change, but it wouldn't hurt to try some tests of your 
own while you're building a new server.

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[gentoo-user] nfs warning: mount version older than kernel

2005-09-22 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   After months of working really well I've just recently started
having trouble with our MythTV setup. I'm looking into what's gone
wrong. The symptom is that recordings periodically look like you're
hitting fast forward. Both audio and video are messed up in the same
way. All machines are Gentoo 32-bit.

   The setup is like this:

- dragonfly - the Myth backend machine has two PVR capture cards in
it. Running on the system is mythbackend, mysql and the ivtv driver
for the cards. This machine is my wife's desktop box and is updated
regularly. I'm seeing various ivtv messages all of a sudden, along
with a specific NFS message:

nfs warning: mount version older than kernel

The kernel is getting a bit old now. Emerge world happens often on this box.
dragonfly ~ # uname -a
Linux dragonfly 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #3 Thu Aug 4 06:43:20 PDT 2005 i686
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
dragonfly ~ #

- myth14 - this is actually a Myth frontend only machine, but it has a
large disk and serves as the main storage for our recordings. This
machine hasn't been updated in at least 45 days. I see no messages or
problems on this machine.

myth14 ~ # uname -a
Linux myth14 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #2 Tue Aug 2 16:31:31 PDT 2005 i686
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
myth14 ~ #

   The two machines are hooked together via wired Ethernet going to a
DLink switch. These machines have been in this configuration for
roughly 2-3 months and have worked great until recently when this
problem started.

   Does anyone know what the message above mean and is it telling me
there's a real problem here, or is it truly just a warning and I
should look somewhere else for a solution to this Myth problem?

Thanks,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] Can I do this with GNUPLOT?

2005-09-22 Thread Hareesh Nagarajan
Hi All:

Suppose I have 2 files, the first file's contents are (0, 100) and the
second file's contents are (0, 50). Now, can I make GNUPLOT plot a
graph with the average, i.e. (0, 100+50/2)?

Sure, I could create a third file which stores the average (0, 75) and
I could just plot the third file using GNUPLOT.

The solution needs to be generic because each of these files could
have any number of lines and I could have any number of files. But
what I need to plot will always be the average.

Thanks!

Hareesh
PS: Is there an IRC channel for GNUPLOT?

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[gentoo-user] specifying DNS servers

2005-09-22 Thread Mark
Can I specify different DNS servers for each of my two physical
interfaces to use? One nic is configured for DHCP, and the other is
static. The DHCP enabled NIC gets its DNS server list automatically and
updates (overwrites) /etc/resolv.conf. How can I point my static IP NIC
to a different DNS server since it's on a different network? Or is
there a different/better solution?-- Mark[unwieldy legal disclaimer would go here - feel free to type your own]


RE: [gentoo-user] nfs warning: mount version older than kernel

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Nebinger
 dragonfly ~ # uname -a
 Linux dragonfly 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #3 Thu Aug 4 06:43:20 PDT 2005 i686
 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
 dragonfly ~ #
 
 myth14 ~ # uname -a
 Linux myth14 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #2 Tue Aug 2 16:31:31 PDT 2005 i686
 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
 myth14 ~ #

What versions of nfs-utils are installed on the systems?


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RE: [gentoo-user] specifying DNS servers

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Nebinger








Name resolution is name resolution,
whether on the static line or the dynamic line. What difference does it
make?





-Original Message-
From: Mark
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday,
 September 22, 2005 2:44 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] specifying
DNS servers



Can I specify different DNS servers for each of my two physical
interfaces to use? One nic is configured for DHCP, and the other is static. The
DHCP enabled NIC gets its DNS server list automatically and updates
(overwrites) /etc/resolv.conf. How can I point my static IP NIC to a different
DNS server since it's on a different network? Or is there a different/better
solution?

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Re: [gentoo-user] specifying DNS servers

2005-09-22 Thread gentuxx
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 Name resolution is name resolution, whether on the static line or
 the dynamic line. What difference does it make?


If they are on different networks, one interface may not be able to
see the other interface, therefore not the name servers either.



 -Original Message-
 *From:* Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2005 2:44 PM
 *To:* gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 *Subject:* [gentoo-user] specifying DNS servers



 Can I specify different DNS servers for each of my two physical
 interfaces to use? One nic is configured for DHCP, and the other is
 static. The DHCP enabled NIC gets its DNS server list automatically
 and updates (overwrites) /etc/resolv.conf. How can I point my static
 IP NIC to a different DNS server since it's on a different network?
 Or is there a different/better solution?

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RE: [gentoo-user] specifying DNS servers

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Nebinger

 
  Name resolution is name resolution, whether on the static line or
  the dynamic line. What difference does it make?
 
 
 If they are on different networks, one interface may not be able to
 see the other interface, therefore not the name servers either.

But if one /etc/resolv.conf dns points to what is served by one side, and
another points to a DNS for the other side, then name resolution, regardless
of the source, still works.

The only conflict I see is if you have a different ip address for a host
depending upon which nic you use - i.e. yahoo.com resolves to one address on
the dhcp'd line, but a different address when resolved across the static
line.  Then you have issues.

If the OP's problem was strictly the overwrite of /etc/resolv.conf by the
dhcp app, he could disable the auto-overwrite of /etc/resolv.conf and use
the scripting capabilities to massage the /etc/resolv.conf to include one or
more of the dns servers provided by the dhcp process.



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Re: [gentoo-user] specifying DNS servers

2005-09-22 Thread Brian Downey
On Sep 22, 2005, at 3:06 PM, gentuxx wrote:Name resolution is name resolution, whether on the static line orthe dynamic line. What difference does it make? If they are on different networks, one interface may not be able tosee the other interface, therefore not the name servers either.Is that true?  I think unless forced, the internal routing setup during an ifconfig takes care of that very problem.As for the original poster, you could just tell dhcpd not to overwrite your resolv.conf.  But I think you'd be better off re-evaluating your situation.   What are you trying to achieve?-B

Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 14:00 +0200, Sascha Lucas wrote:
  no
 
  what about stuff that doesn't run all the time? stuff that cro needs
  etc?
 
 I realy know what will run on such a system. Think of a router, or a 
 datacollector. Pleas tell me what is cro?
 
  look at catalyst, it is the tool for building custom gentoo installs.
 
 I already did this. There you can specify what files/packages to 
 remove. my intention is to know every file that can be removed.

Well the .spec files for the minimal install cd gives you quite a few
clues.

You might also take a look at the build system for ipcop, it is built
using LFS coupled with its own make files. IIRC it includes in the build
system a list of files that will be installed on the target system. The
build system source code is only in the order of 1 MB I think (Naturally
it downloads a lot of other sources to actually build, but you don't
need to do that to look at the target file list.



 
 Sascha.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 22 September 2005 19:26, Ron Bickers wrote:
  For RAID I'm running RAID10 on an existing SCSI system - two RAID1
  combined to a RAID0 but I'm open to better things.

 I don't have any experience with RAID10, but I've read good things about
 it.

If you're planning on doing it in software, you might want to wait for 2.6.14, 
or look at this bug:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5181

  Filesystem of choice is XFS but what did you find?

 wasn't ideal.  Earlier this year, I used XFS for several months on two
 servers and I liked it.  However, through a bizarre series of power
 problems, I found parts of files wiped out with filler characters.  That
 made me really nervous so I dropped it.

That's how XFS gets a lot of it's speed, by agressively caching data in RAM. 
Power failures will cause all sorts of problems with it.

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[gentoo-user] XFCE4 problem when using package CD installation

2005-09-22 Thread HG
Hi, All,

I am a pretty new user to Gentoo and I like it! I am
trying to install XFce4 by gentoo 2005.1 package CD.
But each time when I do startxfce4, it always gives
me a error message error when loading shared
libraries. Did I miss anything during the
installation?

Here is what I did to install Xfce4
put the package CD in
mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
export PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom
emerge --usepkgonly xfce4
then I update rc.conf(using xdm and XSESSION=Xfce-4
and also make a .xsession(exec startxfce4) in my home
directory)

My machine is kind of old(PII 400). that is why I am
trying to use package CD to install everything.

Thanks.
Haijiang
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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID

2005-09-22 Thread brettholcomb
Thank you for the feedback..  

 
 From: Ron Bickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/09/22 Thu PM 02:26:23 EDT
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID
 
 On Thu September 22 2005 07:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  For RAID I'm running RAID10 on an existing SCSI system - two RAID1
  combined to a RAID0 but I'm open to better things.
 
 I don't have any experience with RAID10, but I've read good things about it.
 
  Filesystem of choice is XFS but what did you find?
 
 In my primitive tests, XFS showed good performance for really large files -- 
 like raw video files in the gigabytes (as it was designed to do), but small 
 and normal file size performance is what I needed more and it wasn't 
 

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID

2005-09-22 Thread brettholcomb
Thank you for the feedback..  

 
 From: Ron Bickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/09/22 Thu PM 02:26:23 EDT
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA and RAID
 
 On Thu September 22 2005 07:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  For RAID I'm running RAID10 on an existing SCSI system - two RAID1
  combined to a RAID0 but I'm open to better things.
 
 I don't have any experience with RAID10, but I've read good things about it.
 
  Filesystem of choice is XFS but what did you find?
 
 In my primitive tests, XFS showed good performance for really large files -- 
 like raw video files in the gigabytes (as it was designed to do), but small 
 and normal file size performance is what I needed more and it wasn't 
 

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[gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Sean Lester
Title: Message



Greetings,
 I've installed Postfix. But when I try to 
use Pine as a mail client, I can't seem to read an inbox. It looks like 
Pine is trying to use an "inbox" which is a file, and Postfix delivers things as 
individual messagesto a folder. Can I configure Pine to read 
messages from a folder? Or, does pinerequire messages appended as 
one file? Or, is there something I can change in Posfix? I'm 
flexable :-)

Thank you for your 
time
Sean



[gentoo-user] Postfix receives OK, but won't send to internet

2005-09-22 Thread Sean Lester
Title: Message



Greetings,
 I have a partially working Postfix 
installation. It delivers messages on the localhost. It'll receive 
messages from the internet. But, it will not send messages to any hosts on 
the internet. I've checked my iptables and port 25 is open both 
ways. Also, each error I've gotten has been that the target smtp server 
has "Timed Out." Can anyone point me in the right direction? 
Postfix? Firewall? Host or Domain Name resolution? 
Other? 

Thank you for your 
time.
Sean



Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix receives OK, but won't send to internet

2005-09-22 Thread John Jolet
On Sep 22, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Sean Lester wrote:  Greetings,  I have a partially working Postfix installation.  It delivers messages on the localhost.  It'll receive messages from the internet.  But, it will not send messages to any hosts on the internet.  I've checked my iptables and port 25 is open both ways.  Also, each error I've gotten has been that the target smtp server has "Timed Out."  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Postfix?  Firewall?  Host or Domain Name resolution?  Other?     Thank you for your time. Sean  at the command line, get the name of one of the servers that's timed out.  type "telnet servername 25" and see what happens.  maybe post a snippet from the maillog before and after the timeout message.

RE: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Nebinger
Title: Message









Youre looking at the difference
between an mbox-based tool (pine) and a maildir-based tool (postfix).



Im not sure if the mbox/maildir USE
flags can override the default behaviour, but you could try -mbox maildir
in your USE flags and re-emerge both.



Personally rather than trying to get pine
to work I switched to mutt







-Original Message-
From: Sean Lester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005
4:00 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Postfix
 Pine incompatability





Greetings,





 I've installed Postfix. But
when I try to use Pine as a mail client, I can't seem to read an inbox.
It looks like Pine is trying to use an inbox which is a file, and
Postfix delivers things as individual messagesto a folder. Can I
configure Pine to read messages from a folder? Or, does pinerequire
messages appended as one file? Or, is there something I can change in
Posfix? I'm flexable :-)











Thank you for your time





Sean


















RE: [gentoo-user] Postfix receives OK, but won't send to internet

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Nebinger
Title: Message









Your ISP may be blocking port 25 outside of
their own network.



Most likely you need to configure postfix
to relay mail through your ISPs mail server rather than just use your
own.



A lot of ISPs do this so they dont
have to handle complaints about spam originating from one of their users.







-Original Message-
From: Sean Lester
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005
4:07 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Postfix
receives OK, but won't send to internet





Greetings,





 I have a partially working Postfix
installation. It delivers messages on the localhost. It'll receive
messages from the internet. But, it will not send messages to any hosts
on the internet. I've checked my iptables and port 25 is open both
ways. Also, each error I've gotten has been that the target smtp server
has Timed Out. Can anyone point me in the right
direction? Postfix? Firewall? Host or Domain Name
resolution? Other? 











Thank you for your time.






Sean


















Re: [gentoo-user] Can I do this with GNUPLOT?

2005-09-22 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
 Suppose I have 2 files, the first file's contents are (0, 100) and the
 second file's contents are (0, 50). Now, can I make GNUPLOT plot a
 graph with the average, i.e. (0, 100+50/2)?
 
 Sure, I could create a third file which stores the average (0, 75) and
 I could just plot the third file using GNUPLOT.
 
 The solution needs to be generic because each of these files could
 have any number of lines and I could have any number of files. But
 what I need to plot will always be the average.

the problem needs to be specific because I have no idea what you are
thinking of:

  1) Are the number of lines per file going to be the same? I.e., you
  can have a variable number of lines, N, but the N is independent of
  the file you choose?

  2) Are you doing a line by line average? For 2 files of 3 lines
  each, will you end up with a final average with 3 data points (1st
  line from 1st file with the 1st line from second file and so on), or
  will you just have the average of all 6 points?

There are many more uncertainties to your question, please be more
specific.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes over Flash

2005-09-22 Thread neil

Martin S wrote:


it crashes on most pages sooner or later - even those it has rendered before :(
Anyone else seen this?


No. Not at all. In fact, I have never seen Firefox crash.


Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Willie Wong
The official pine distribution doesn't support maildir. Since I don't
run pine myself, I don't know if the maildir USE flag would provide
the maildir patch for pine. 

If not: you can use another client (mutt comes to mind), or you can
modify the configuration in /etc/postfix/main.cf

You are looking for the variables

home_mailbox 
  and/or
mail_spool_directory

If you want the mails to be delivered to one file (a.k.a. mbox
format), you want those variables to NOT end in /. If the variables
end in /, the mail will be delivered to it as a qmail-style maildir. 

home_mailbox overrules mail_spool_directory, just in case you are
wondering. 

http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html

W

On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 04:00:27PM -0400, Sean Lester wrote:
 Greetings,
  I've installed Postfix.  But when I try to use Pine as a mail
 client, I can't seem to read an inbox.  It looks like Pine is trying to
 use an inbox which is a file, and Postfix delivers things as
 individual messages to a folder.  Can I configure Pine to read messages
 from a folder?  Or, does pine require messages appended as one file?
 Or, is there something I can change in Posfix?  I'm flexable :-)
  
 Thank you for your time
 Sean
  

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge gnome

2005-09-22 Thread Stewart Taylor

Hi Tamas

The emerge --sync did the trick, 
everything is working fine now. Thanks 
for your help.


Stewart

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix receives OK, but won't send to internet

2005-09-22 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 04:06:34PM -0400, Sean Lester wrote:
 Greetings,
  I have a partially working Postfix installation.  It delivers
 messages on the localhost.  It'll receive messages from the internet.
 But, it will not send messages to any hosts on the internet.  I've
 checked my iptables and port 25 is open both ways.  Also, each error
 I've gotten has been that the target smtp server has Timed Out.  Can
 anyone point me in the right direction?  Postfix?  Firewall?  Host or
 Domain Name resolution?  Other?  
  

What is your setup like? Is the smtp time out happening between client
and postfix, or between postfix and a relay host? 

If the problem is that your mail client cannot send mail through
postfix, check /etc/postfix/main.cf, a few variables of interest might
be inet_interfaces, my_destination, mynetworks_style, etc. 

If the problem is between postfix and a relay host, perhaps your relay
transport is configured wrong?

What are the outputs in /var/log/mail/current after you try to send a
mail? (That question only applies if you know the problem happens
AFTER the mail gets passed from the client to postfix).

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Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:29:53 +1200
Nick Rout wrote:

  
  I already did this. There you can specify what files/packages to 
  remove. my intention is to know every file that can be removed.
 
 Well the .spec files for the minimal install cd gives you quite a few
 clues.

Specifically:

http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/src/releng/specs/2005.1/x86/livecd-stage2-minimal.spec?root=gentoorev=1.1view=markup

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:17:32 -0400
Dave Nebinger wrote:

 You're looking at the difference between an mbox-based tool (pine) and a
 maildir-based tool (postfix).
 
  
 
 I'm not sure if the mbox/maildir USE flags can override the default
 behaviour, but you could try -mbox maildir in your USE flags and re-emerge
 both.
 

Where do you get the idea that pine has a mbox or maildir USE flag? It
doesn't:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Brother/UK-ENG $ emerge -pv pine

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] app-misc/mime-types-3  5 kB
[ebuild  N] mail-client/pine-4.63-r2  -debug -kerberos -largeterminal -ldap 
+pam -passfile +ssl 3,173 kB

Total size of downloads: 3,178 kB

However pine does have maildir built in,  If you look at the ebuild (or read as 
it flashes past the screen) you will see:

maildir_warn() {
einfo
einfo This build of Pine has Maildir support built in as
einfo part of the chappa-all patch.
einfo
einfo If you have a maildir at ~/Maildir it will be your
einfo default INBOX. The path may be changed with the
einfo \maildir-location\ setting in Pine.
einfo
einfo To use /var/spool/mail INBOX again, set
einfo \disable-these-drivers=md\ in your .pinerc file.
einfo
einfo Alternately, you might want to read following webpage, which 
explains how to
einfo use multiple mailboxes simultaneously:
echo
echo 
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/collections/incoming-folders/;
echo
:


  
 
 Personally rather than trying to get pine to work I switched to mutt.
 
  
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Lester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:00 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Postfix  Pine incompatability
 
  
 
 Greetings,
 
  I've installed Postfix.  But when I try to use Pine as a mail client, I
 can't seem to read an inbox.  It looks like Pine is trying to use an inbox
 which is a file, and Postfix delivers things as individual messages to a
 folder.  Can I configure Pine to read messages from a folder?  Or, does pine
 require messages appended as one file?  Or, is there something I can change
 in Posfix?  I'm flexable :-)
 
  
 
 Thank you for your time
 
 Sean
 
  
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:43:05 -0400
Willie Wong wrote:

 The official pine distribution doesn't support maildir. Since I don't
 run pine myself, I don't know if the maildir USE flag would provide
 the maildir patch for pine. 


For heaven's sake read the goddamned ebuild! (see the message I just
posted). What is so difficult about:

grep maildir /usr/portage/mail-client/pine/*

We've had two misleading posts on this subject, which basically only
offer a guess to a question that is very easily answered!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix receives OK, but won't send to internet

2005-09-22 Thread Bryan Whitehead
Many ISP's route all outgoing port 25 traffic to a black hole (as in they 
drop the packets not going to their smtp servers). You just need to 
configure postfix to push all your mail to your ISP's mail server.


On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Sean Lester wrote:


Greetings,
I have a partially working Postfix installation.  It delivers
messages on the localhost.  It'll receive messages from the internet.
But, it will not send messages to any hosts on the internet.  I've
checked my iptables and port 25 is open both ways.  Also, each error
I've gotten has been that the target smtp server has Timed Out.  Can
anyone point me in the right direction?  Postfix?  Firewall?  Host or
Domain Name resolution?  Other?

Thank you for your time.

Sean




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Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE4 problem when using package CD installation

2005-09-22 Thread Bryan Whitehead

run revdep-rebuild to find broken libraries/programs.



On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, HG wrote:


Hi, All,

I am a pretty new user to Gentoo and I like it! I am
trying to install XFce4 by gentoo 2005.1 package CD.
But each time when I do startxfce4, it always gives
me a error message error when loading shared
libraries. Did I miss anything during the
installation?

Here is what I did to install Xfce4
put the package CD in
mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
export PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom
emerge --usepkgonly xfce4
then I update rc.conf(using xdm and XSESSION=Xfce-4
and also make a .xsession(exec startxfce4) in my home
directory)

My machine is kind of old(PII 400). that is why I am
trying to use package CD to install everything.

Thanks.
Haijiang



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Re: [gentoo-user] Can I do this with GNUPLOT?

2005-09-22 Thread Bryan Whitehead

This is a bit offtopic... maybe the gnuplot mailinglist?

http://www.lns.cornell.edu/public/COMP/info/gnuplot/gpltinfo_1.html


On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:


Hi All:

Suppose I have 2 files, the first file's contents are (0, 100) and the
second file's contents are (0, 50). Now, can I make GNUPLOT plot a
graph with the average, i.e. (0, 100+50/2)?

Sure, I could create a third file which stores the average (0, 75) and
I could just plot the third file using GNUPLOT.

The solution needs to be generic because each of these files could
have any number of lines and I could have any number of files. But
what I need to plot will always be the average.

Thanks!

Hareesh
PS: Is there an IRC channel for GNUPLOT?




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[gentoo-user] [OT] Cups does not see devices

2005-09-22 Thread Paweł Madej

Hello,

I got problem with my FreeBSD box.
I installed cups cups-base and other stuff for it and when i try to add 
printer via webinterface it don't see any device (like parallel, usb, 
http and so on).


Anybody got idea what could cause it? And how to resolve that problem?

Thanks for any help

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Re: [gentoo-user] nfs warning: mount version older than kernel

2005-09-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/22/05, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  dragonfly ~ # uname -a
  Linux dragonfly 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #3 Thu Aug 4 06:43:20 PDT 2005 i686
  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
  dragonfly ~ #
 
  myth14 ~ # uname -a
  Linux myth14 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #2 Tue Aug 2 16:31:31 PDT 2005 i686
  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
  myth14 ~ #

 What versions of nfs-utils are installed on the systems?


Sorry. I printed that here in a terminal and the forgot to copy it
into the first message. 1.06-r6 on both systems:

dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv nfs-utils

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] net-fs/nfs-utils-1.0.6-r6  +tcpd 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
dragonfly ~ #
 myth14 ~ # emerge -pv nfs-utils

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] net-fs/nfs-utils-1.0.6-r6  +tcpd 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
myth14 ~ #

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Cups does not see devices

2005-09-22 Thread C. Beamer
Hi,

I had a situation when I was trying to get my Laser Jet printer
recognized.  I was fine with the ink jet, which was connected via usb,
but the laser was connected to a parallel port.

I had to recompile the kernel and select
Device Drivers --
 Parallel Port Support --
 *Parallel Port Support
* PC-Style Hardware

Don't know if this is a solution to your problem, but thought I would
post anyway.

Regards,

Colleen

Paweł Madej wrote:

 Hello,

 I got problem with my FreeBSD box.
 I installed cups cups-base and other stuff for it and when i try to
 add printer via webinterface it don't see any device (like parallel,
 usb, http and so on).

 Anybody got idea what could cause it? And how to resolve that problem?

 Thanks for any help

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RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems

2005-09-22 Thread Rupert Young (Restart)

Thanks.

 3. follow the 2005.1 handbook to expand the initial portage base into your
 root filesystem.

By this do you mean downloading, unpacking and installing the thing called
stage tarball?


Regards,
 
Rupert 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Nebinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 September 2005 20:12
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems
 
  Any help appreciated.
 
  /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-
  gnu/../../libc.so when searching for -lc
 
 Dude, I think your build chain is now in a 'hosed' state, probably as a
 result of the migration that you were trying...
 
 Since gentoo is a source-based distro you're going to have to get this
 resolved before you can move forward.
 
 Others might have a better suggestion, but I'd probably approach it as
 follows:
 
 1. back up the /etc directory.
 2. back up the /var/lib/portage directory to keep your current world file.
 3. follow the 2005.1 handbook to expand the initial portage base into your
 root filesystem.
 4. restore the /etc and /var/lib/portage directory contents.
 5. emerge --sync the system
 6. emerge --update --deep --emptytree --newuse world
 
 The last step will take quite awhile to complete (depending upon what
 you've
 deployed already), but it should rebuild everything including your build
 chain.
 
 Now, as I said I don't know if this is the best way and would recommend
 hearing answers from others if they post any, and only look to this as a
 *possible* solution.
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Cups does not see devices

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout
http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/LinuxKongress2002/Tutorial/

What is the result of running:

lpinfo -v

/usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
(and the other scripts in the same directory, of course the directory
could be elsewhere under freebsd)


On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:10:35 +0200
Pawe³ Madej wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I got problem with my FreeBSD box.
 I installed cups cups-base and other stuff for it and when i try to add 
 printer via webinterface it don't see any device (like parallel, usb, 
 http and so on).
 
 Anybody got idea what could cause it? And how to resolve that problem?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
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[gentoo-user] top - 99.9% wa? What's 'wa'?

2005-09-22 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I'm looking at this mythbackend server machine using top. Sometimes
the CPU usage goes to essentially 100%, but only in the 'wa' section.
What is 'wa'? I searched through the man page but didn't see anything
about this.

   I'm suspecting that this machine has stopped being able to keep up
with MythTV due to something using up CPU time. I found that one of my
wife's screensavers (Fireworks) was using 70-90% CPU so I've turned
that off and things seem much better. Now when watching top I never
see anything using more than a few %, but this 'wa' thing persists.


top - 14:51:47 up  4:19,  3 users,  load average: 1.75, 1.88, 1.58
Tasks:  91 total,   2 running,  88 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 97.7% wa,  0.0% hi,  1.7% si
Mem:499052k total,   493560k used, 5492k free, 3140k buffers
Swap:  1052216k total,  368k used,  1051848k free,   342352k cached

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Cups does not see devices

2005-09-22 Thread Paweł Madej

Nick Rout wrote:

http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/LinuxKongress2002/Tutorial/

What is the result of running:

lpinfo -v

/usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
(and the other scripts in the same directory, of course the directory
could be elsewhere under freebsd)




lpinfo -v shows nothing

and directory /usr/lib/cups/backend is also empty (the same as you give 
is on my fbsd box)


it is a little bit weird because i got it recompiled today.

greets
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[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 08:56:37AM +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:43:05 -0400
 Willie Wong wrote:
 
  The official pine distribution doesn't support maildir. Since I don't
  run pine myself, I don't know if the maildir USE flag would provide
  the maildir patch for pine. 
 
 
 For heaven's sake read the goddamned ebuild! (see the message I just
 posted). What is so difficult about:
 
 grep maildir /usr/portage/mail-client/pine/*
 
 We've had two misleading posts on this subject, which basically only
 offer a guess to a question that is very easily answered!

So I made a gross overlook, but why can't you be civil about it? In my
case, yes, it never occurred to me to read the ebuild, and I am
ssh'ing in to my home machine, so I cannot say that I have no access.
But what if someone is trying to help when reading from G-Mail? or at
work and just browsing the e-mail and seeing a question they can
likely answer from a brief search from Google? For some people the
ebuild might not be sitting in an easily acceptable place you know. 

In my case I interpreted the question as basically the OP doesn't
know what to call the different mailbox formats and hence cannot
search on Google. So I provided that information (maildir vs mbox)
and did a cursory search on Google and saw that the official
distribution of Pine doesn't come with maildir support, though patches
do exist. 

In any case, my post is not Misleading as you would have termed it.
I offered common suggestions in the emerge-sense: when a feature may
or may not have been included, check the USE flags. (Sure, I jumped
the gun there and assumed that the OP, when sending the post, has a
copy of Pine without maildir support, instead of just not knowing how
to use the feature, but hopefully after pointing out the fact that
such a thing is called maildir the OP would be able to configure pine
for it.) 

And I did suggest the OP check for maildir support in his local copy
before moving on to anything else. 

And if the OP is used to using pine + mbox, my second suggestion of
configuring postfix to use mbox instead of maildir is an equally
valid, sensible, and perhaps preferable (let's not get into a flamewar
on the relative merits of mbox and maildir here) solution to the
problem. 

Why did you think the profane language you used was called for? The
worst case scenario in these things are the other poster and I making
fools out of ourselves at large when the OP replied that he doesn't
see any USE flags. We only suggested that the OP look into the USE
flags, it is not like we are suggesting a recompile that might
possibly hose the OP's system. 

I have no problem with you correcting our mistakes. I have no problem
with you being arrogant about it. I have no problem with you
double-posting that correction just to get your point across. But I
find it extremely unpleasant that you have to use offensive language
while doing any of the above. 

Best, 

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[gentoo-user] genkernel on sparc won't unmount initrd

2005-09-22 Thread Hani Duwaik
I've installed gentoo on an old Ultra 10. I installed the
standard 'sparc-sources' kernel (2.4.31) and tried to manually
configure it, but the kernel kept crashing on boot. So I
installed genkernel and copied the config file from the livecd.

FYI: The Ultra 10 uses IDE harddrives, so the root/boot partition is at /dev/hda1.

When I reboot, ramdisk kernel loads up but can't find /dev/hda ...
instead, I can point it to '/dev/discs/disc0/part1' and it will
continue booting (mounting everything as /dev/hdax .., including
root). However, during the 'hand-off' (for lack of a better word)
to the real kernel, the system complains that it can't umount
'/tmp/.initrd/dev' and, instead, leaves it mounted even after the
system comes up.

To further complicate things, I can't even umount it (the /tmp/.initrd/xx mounts) even after the system is up and running.

So far, it doesn't seem to be interferring with the function of the
system, but I don't get the impression that this is a good thing and
would like to know what I've done wrong.

I'm not sure if this is an issue with genkernel, silo (the sparc
version of lilo), bad choices on my end in configuring the kernel or a
mixture of all three.

Does anyone know why the tmp kernel (the ramdisk kernel) could not see
'/dev/hda' but rather '/dev/discs/disc0/xxx' until after the real
kernel is loaded?

TIA,

-Hani

PS: I'll eventually go back to a manually created kernel, but I'd still
like to know what I missed in regards to the genkernel setup.


Re: [gentoo-user] specifying DNS servers

2005-09-22 Thread Bryan Whitehead

No.

Look into a split DNS setup:
http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2001/00288013.html

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Mark wrote:


Can I specify different DNS servers for each of my two physical interfaces
to use? One nic is configured for DHCP, and the other is static. The DHCP
enabled NIC gets its DNS server list automatically and updates (overwrites)
/etc/resolv.conf. How can I point my static IP NIC to a different DNS server
since it's on a different network? Or is there a different/better solution?

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Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread W.Kenworthy
I saw a post (I think it was this list, and the following was from
memory) a month or two back of someone who did just this.  They
installed with a past date, then ran the system for a week or so and
exercised it extensively.  They then did the remove everything based on
atime that hadnt been touched.

The result was very successful, but they did come across the odd file
they had to put back. Testing after the initial delete was considerable.

From my point of view, such a stripped system would always be
classified as unstable as you never know when it will ask for a file you
removed as it is just too complex to check every circumstance.

BillK


On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 23:07 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 12:01 +0200, Sascha Lucas wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm thinking of a small footprint gentoo produced in this way:
  
  1) install everything you need
  2) note current system time
  3) reboot and do all operations you need in this small gentoo
  4) remount with noatime
  5) find all files in the FS that have an atime before the system time you
  note in 2)
  6) delete all files found in 5); they were not accessed, so we don't need
  them?
  
  What do you think about this? Does it have a chance to work?
 
 no
 
 what about stuff that doesn't run all the time? stuff that cro needs
 etc?
 
 look at catalyst, it is the tool for building custom gentoo installs.
 
  
  THX,
  
  Sascha.
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Cups does not see devices

2005-09-22 Thread Bryan Whitehead

http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Paweł Madej wrote:


Hello,

I got problem with my FreeBSD box.
I installed cups cups-base and other stuff for it and when i try to add 
printer via webinterface it don't see any device (like parallel, usb, http 
and so on).


Anybody got idea what could cause it? And how to resolve that problem?

Thanks for any help

Pawel



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[gentoo-user] What's my architecture ? - was System update problems

2005-09-22 Thread Rupert Young (Restart)

I was having a problem updating my system, but I think I have a more
fundamental problem. I'm not sure what my architecture is!

Sorry for the dumb question.

uname -a, gives the following

Linux fluffy 2.6.7-gentoo-r14 #1 SMP Wed Aug 18 09:57:23 UTC 2004 x86_64 AMD
Opteron(tm) Processor 250 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Does this mean my arch is x86 or amd?

For those who have managed to get this far without collapsing in fits of
hysterics a bit of history,

* Someone installed gentoo about a year ago for me.
* Last week I wanted to add some apps and as I was finding probs decided to
do an upadate.
* I think I did emerge sync first.
* then tried emerge -uDpv world
* somewhere I had a problem that make.profile was not linked
* I did a symbolic link to the amd64 2005.1 dir
* then had various problems, such as 
!!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1 failed, 
when doing emerge -uv system

I have now link make.profile to
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1

Was this right?

I then did emerge --sync and etc-update on 61 config files.

Now getting the error below on emerge -upv system.

Am I barking up the right tadpole?

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request:
- sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.3-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.4 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or 
section 2.2 Software Availability in the Gentoo Handbook.


!!! Problem with ebuild sys-devel/gcc-3.4.1-r1
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.

Regards,
 
Rupert 

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2005 14:19
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rupert Young (Restart)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 22 September 2005 12:25
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems
 
 
  Thanks. Unless anyone else has any suggestions I will try it.
 
  Can anyone else confirm this is the way to go before I try?
 
 It depends how patient you are.  The suggested fix will bring your
 machine up to an as new condition.  On the other hand, it might
 unnecessarily rebuilt packages that may not be broken or need updating
 (yet) and will take years to complete (well, it depends on how fast your
 machine is :-)  That said I would think that after a whole year there
 wouldn't be much left in portage, which has not a new ebuild?
 
 As an alternative, if your machine is not totally hosed you could start
 from the bottom up rebuilding the core packages and after a fresh
 --sync, update the whole world.  Try re-emerging the gentoo toolkit:
 gcc-config glibc binutils libstdc++.  Run # etc-update and # env-update
  source /etc/profile as required and rebuild portage; do another
 --sync; and then emerge -upDv world to see what comes up in need for an
 update.
 
 However, if basic compilers, etc. are broken you will not be able to
 re-emerge the toolkit and the solution suggested by Dave remains the
 best option.
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 Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes over Flash

2005-09-22 Thread Grant
  Does anyone else's Firefox crash whenever it hits a page with Flash on
  it?  If I start a new .mozilla folder and always choose to not
  download Flash, everything is fine.  As soon as I download Flash, it
  starts crashing whenever it sees a Flash file.
 

 Flash is working fine here, although I use the flashblock extension to be
 able to choose what flash content I want to see. How are you installing the
 flash plugin?

I'm using the automatic download and install via Firefox.  It used to
crash on only some flash, but now it's all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 07:05 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote:
 I saw a post (I think it was this list, and the following was from
 memory) a month or two back of someone who did just this.  They
 installed with a past date, then ran the system for a week or so and
 exercised it extensively.  They then did the remove everything based on
 atime that hadnt been touched.
 
 The result was very successful, but they did come across the odd file
 they had to put back. Testing after the initial delete was considerable.

yeah, that was probably me (earlier on in the year at least).  For the
initial install, I made the date somewhere around the epoch, or somehow
I altered every file on the filesystem to be this date (can't remember).
Then I fixed the date and booted the system.  I posted quite a few
questions and findings on the mailing list and ended up with that
option.  It works quite well in theory, however here are some notes to
help you:

1. symlinks aren't (or at least weren't in my case) picked up by the
process, probably because when you access a symlink, only the date of
the target appears to be altered.  I had to manually copy many symlinks
(which were mostly like /lib/libgcc_s.so - libgcc_s.so.1) to even get
the system to boot.  And the error messages threw me way off.

2. The more you want the system to do, the harder it will be.  We didn't
want a whole host of features (no X), in fact only really ssh, ftpd,
iptables, and limited others.

3. don't delete everything you don't need, because you _will_ make a
mistake.  In fact, we redid the entire process a few times from scratch,
to refine it more.  To make it easier, make two partitions, or if your
final copy will only have one disk and one partition, put in a spare
disk just for the testing phase.  Make an exact copy on both before you
start deleting.  Then you can keep going back to the full installation
to get files you missed.  In fact, we made the machine dual boot to both
disks, just in case we wanted to test the full install versus our
minimal install.

4. write down the commands that you use to find and copy the files you
want, that way the second and third and subsequent times you do it, you
don't have to remember.


 From my point of view, such a stripped system would always be
 classified as unstable as you never know when it will ask for a file you
 removed as it is just too complex to check every circumstance.

I did much of the initial work to prove the concept and handed it over
to someone else to turn into a reproducible system.  As far as I know,
we've had 3 or 4 running continuously for quite a few months now.

Our particular requirement was to make a running system for a 64 Mb
sandisk, with enough space left over for about 10-12 Mb of our own
software.  This is an embedded control system (no X), and we wanted a
very similar installation on our HMI (X, gnome, and other such boggy
apps :) running the same kernel so we could copy programs between them
if need be.  (The HMI runs a complete installation.)


If you're planning on doing it in a short amount of time, think again!
It won't be trivial, but the concept is at least possible.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] top - 99.9% wa? What's 'wa'?

2005-09-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:59:55 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

I'm looking at this mythbackend server machine using top. Sometimes
 the CPU usage goes to essentially 100%, but only in the 'wa' section.
 What is 'wa'? I searched through the man page but didn't see anything
 about this.

Waiting. I usually see it go up during heavy disk I/O.


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Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:05:27 +0800
W.Kenworthy wrote:

 I saw a post (I think it was this list, and the following was from
 memory) a month or two back of someone who did just this.  They
 installed with a past date, then ran the system for a week or so and
 exercised it extensively.  They then did the remove everything based on
 atime that hadnt been touched.
 
 The result was very successful, but they did come across the odd file
 they had to put back.

This seems to be the essence of the problem: if you are trying to build
a router, reliability is the primary goal.

For that matter  it doesn't with the files that you may still have about, but 
which perhaps have no place on a router - ssh, maybe others.


Testing after the initial delete was considerable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes over Flash

2005-09-22 Thread David Helstroom

Grant wrote:


Does anyone else's Firefox crash whenever it hits a page with Flash on
it?  If I start a new .mozilla folder and always choose to not
download Flash, everything is fine.  As soon as I download Flash, it
starts crashing whenever it sees a Flash file.

 


Flash is working fine here, although I use the flashblock extension to be
able to choose what flash content I want to see. How are you installing the
flash plugin?
   



I'm using the automatic download and install via Firefox.  It used to
crash on only some flash, but now it's all.

- Grant

 


The site:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency
is your friend.

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Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:11:41 -0400
Willie Wong wrote:

 Why did you think the profane language you used was called for? The
 worst case scenario in these things are the other poster and I making
 fools out of ourselves at large when the OP replied that he doesn't
 see any USE flags. We only suggested that the OP look into the USE
 flags, it is not like we are suggesting a recompile that might
 possibly hose the OP's system. 
 
 I have no problem with you correcting our mistakes. I have no problem
 with you being arrogant about it. I have no problem with you
 double-posting that correction just to get your point across. But I
 find it extremely unpleasant that you have to use offensive language
 while doing any of the above. 
 
 Best, 

Sorry. My error, I was a intemperate and you didn't deserve it. I hope
we can move on.

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] top - 99.9% wa? What's 'wa'?

2005-09-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/22/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:59:55 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I'm looking at this mythbackend server machine using top. Sometimes
  the CPU usage goes to essentially 100%, but only in the 'wa' section.
  What is 'wa'? I searched through the man page but didn't see anything
  about this.

 Waiting. I usually see it go up during heavy disk I/O.



Thanks Neil. That's helpful.

Seems strange to me that I saw a lot of 'waiting' while this one
'fireworkx' screensaver even in xscreensaver-demo. Basically I'm
getting a pretty consistent

12 % CPU
42% Nice
40% Waiting

It appears to me that when the screensaver burns up that much
horsepower, whether it's CPU+Nice or CPU+Nice+Waiting, then
mythbackend is having trouble. My first test of recording something
new but making sure a low power screensaver was in effect worked just
fine.

Again, thanks for the info.

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Re: [gentoo-user] top - 99.9% wa? What's 'wa'?

2005-09-22 Thread Bob Sanders
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:59:55 -0700
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
I'm looking at this mythbackend server machine using top. Sometimes
 the CPU usage goes to essentially 100%, but only in the 'wa' section.
 What is 'wa'? I searched through the man page but didn't see anything
 about this.
 

It's described in the vmstat man page.  You're supposed to be clairvoyant about
these things and know that virtual memory stats is where cpu time is described. 
:)

It's Time spent waiting for IO.  The cpu can't do anything until IO is
completed - typically this is some kind of DMA transfer.

I'm suspecting that this machine has stopped being able to keep up
 with MythTV due to something using up CPU time. I found that one of my
 wife's screensavers (Fireworks) was using 70-90% CPU so I've turned
 that off and things seem much better. Now when watching top I never
 see anything using more than a few %, but this 'wa' thing persists.


Nope, it's just slow doing IO - bottleneck in either disk to memory, video to 
memory,
or memory to network.
 
 
 top - 14:51:47 up  4:19,  3 users,  load average: 1.75, 1.88, 1.58
 Tasks:  91 total,   2 running,  88 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
 Cpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 97.7% wa,  0.0% hi,  1.7% si
 Mem:499052k total,   493560k used, 5492k free, 3140k buffers
 Swap:  1052216k total,  368k used,  1051848k free,   342352k cached
 

Looks like it might help a bit to increase the systems main memory to 1 GB.  
It'll eliminate
the swapping and will increase the available in-memory filesystem buffering.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel on sparc won't unmount initrd

2005-09-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:13:38 -0600 Hani Duwaik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I've installed gentoo on an old Ultra 10. I installed the standard
| 'sparc-sources' kernel (2.4.31) and tried to manually configure it,
| but the kernel kept crashing on boot. So I installed genkernel and
| copied the config file from the livecd.

Genkernel on sparc is only supported for the purposes of livecd
creation. Don't use it.

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Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Dave Nebinger

We've had two misleading posts on this subject, which basically only
offer a guess to a question that is very easily answered!


So I made a gross overlook, but why can't you be civil about it?


Sorry, Willy, but for as long as Nick has been posting I would just assume 
he was having a bad moment and not take it so personally.


But Nick, my original position was the assumption that the USE flags 
controlled the builds and enabled/disabled features as indicated.


Up to this point I haven't read a single ebuild, and I wouldn't have thought 
of going there to check pine's maildir compatibility, so I'm glad you 
pointed that out.


That being said, I've got enough on my plate already; how often is it that 
we should be reading ebuilds to find relevant clues to how a package is 
going to work when installed?


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Re: [gentoo-user] transfer large files via samba cause system freeze

2005-09-22 Thread Qiangning Hong
Heinz Sporn wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 22.09.2005, 16:26 +0800 schrieb Qiangning Hong:
Isn't CIFS considered as a better SMBFS?
 
 It's been said. Still - do you have both SMBFS and CIFS support built
 into your kernel, or just CIFS? If the later is true I would include
 SMBFS as well and try the same thing with good old SMB as well (you may
 use both simultanously anyway).

I add smbfs support in my kernel and tried (after change the filename to
an English-only one).  It works.

However, as my previous mail said, using smbfs doesn't address my
problem.  I have plenty (~100) large files to transfer, and maybe you've
guessed, they are movie files, with Chinese movie title in the
filenames.  And the movies directories on my winbox have also Chinese
characters.  If I stick in the smbfs solution, I'll have to do too many
manual filename change things.  So, I still prefer to find out what's
wrong with my cifs and fix it.

 Interessting details missing: your kernel and windoze version?

Linux r52 2.6.13-suspend2-r4 #4 Wed Sep 21 17:35:55 CST 2005 i686
Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Windows XP Professional with SP2.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Sean Lester
Thank you to all that replied!  I although it isn't resolved, I know
were to turn and I'm sure I'll get it.  

Thank you
Sean



-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:54 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix  Pine incompatability


On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:17:32 -0400
Dave Nebinger wrote:

 You're looking at the difference between an mbox-based tool (pine) and

 a maildir-based tool (postfix).
 
  
 
 I'm not sure if the mbox/maildir USE flags can override the default 
 behaviour, but you could try -mbox maildir in your USE flags and 
 re-emerge both.
 

Where do you get the idea that pine has a mbox or maildir USE flag? It
doesn't:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Brother/UK-ENG $ emerge -pv pine

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] app-misc/mime-types-3  5 kB
[ebuild  N] mail-client/pine-4.63-r2  -debug -kerberos
-largeterminal -ldap +pam -passfile +ssl 3,173 kB

Total size of downloads: 3,178 kB

However pine does have maildir built in,  If you look at the ebuild (or
read as it flashes past the screen) you will see:

maildir_warn() {
einfo
einfo This build of Pine has Maildir support built in as
einfo part of the chappa-all patch.
einfo
einfo If you have a maildir at ~/Maildir it will be your
einfo default INBOX. The path may be changed with the
einfo \maildir-location\ setting in Pine.
einfo
einfo To use /var/spool/mail INBOX again, set
einfo \disable-these-drivers=md\ in your .pinerc file.
einfo
einfo Alternately, you might want to read following webpage, which
explains how to
einfo use multiple mailboxes simultaneously:
echo
echo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/collections/incom
ing-folders/
echo
:


  
 
 Personally rather than trying to get pine to work I switched to mutt.
 
  
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Lester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:00 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Postfix  Pine incompatability
 
  
 
 Greetings,
 
  I've installed Postfix.  But when I try to use Pine as a mail 
 client, I can't seem to read an inbox.  It looks like Pine is trying 
 to use an inbox which is a file, and Postfix delivers things as 
 individual messages to a folder.  Can I configure Pine to read 
 messages from a folder?  Or, does pine require messages appended as 
 one file?  Or, is there something I can change in Posfix?  I'm 
 flexable :-)
 
  
 
 Thank you for your time
 
 Sean
 
  
 

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RE: [gentoo-user] Postfix receives OK, but won't send to internet

2005-09-22 Thread Sean Lester
That's it.  I didn't think the ISP would block outgoing port 25.  

Thanks to all that responded.
Sean

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Whitehead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:00 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix receives OK, but won't send to
internet


Many ISP's route all outgoing port 25 traffic to a black hole (as in
they 
drop the packets not going to their smtp servers). You just need to 
configure postfix to push all your mail to your ISP's mail server.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Sean Lester wrote:

 Greetings,
 I have a partially working Postfix installation.  It delivers 
 messages on the localhost.  It'll receive messages from the internet. 
 But, it will not send messages to any hosts on the internet.  I've 
 checked my iptables and port 25 is open both ways.  Also, each error 
 I've gotten has been that the target smtp server has Timed Out.  Can

 anyone point me in the right direction?  Postfix?  Firewall?  Host or 
 Domain Name resolution?  Other?

 Thank you for your time.

 Sean



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Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix Pine incompatability

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:58:06 -0400
Dave Nebinger wrote:

  We've had two misleading posts on this subject, which basically only
  offer a guess to a question that is very easily answered!
 
  So I made a gross overlook, but why can't you be civil about it?
 
 Sorry, Willy, but for as long as Nick has been posting I would just assume 
 he was having a bad moment and not take it so personally.
 
 But Nick, my original position was the assumption that the USE flags 
 controlled the builds and enabled/disabled features as indicated.
 
 Up to this point I haven't read a single ebuild, and I wouldn't have thought 
 of going there to check pine's maildir compatibility, so I'm glad you 
 pointed that out.
 
 That being said, I've got enough on my plate already; how often is it that 
 we should be reading ebuilds to find relevant clues to how a package is 
 going to work when installed?

Look I apologise for being intemperate, lets move on.

But lets also remember  to be accurate in our posts. I think there is a
good deal of guess the answer going on on this list, this isn't
pointed at anyone in particular. 

So to be positive about it heres how i found the answer:

1. looked to see if there were mbox or maildir USE flags that affected
the build of pine - answer NO
2. google pine maildir and discover that there are patches in
circulation - answer YES
3. grep the pine ebuild for the lines with epatch and see that none seem
to have any obvious connection with the term maildir - answer NO
4. grep the ebuild for the term maildir' and find what i posted.

I never used to read many ebuilds, now I find its a useful step,
particularly to see what effect USE flags have, what changes gentoo
makes to the build, and what configuartion files of its own gentoo uses.

I'm not intending this email to challenge your methodology for
troubleshooting, just to point out that:

a. accurate postings will raise the signal to noise ratio significantly
b. reading the ebuild is a worthwhile troubleshooting step.


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:17:54 -0400
John J. Foster wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 09:34:13AM -0300, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  Does anyone can recommend a well-supported inkjet printer for using with 
  Linux?
  
 
 HP Deskjet 5550 works just fine

I'll just weigh in here for Hewlett Packard, (although I am told that if you 
want highest quality digital photo prints go for epson).

Quite simply HP support linux with good quality tools that are free in
both senses of the word - no $ and GPL.

Just chack that your printer is on the compatibilty list at
http://hpinkjet.sf.net and then install hplip 0.9.5 (which you may need
to get from bugs.gentoo.org.

Here is a re-post of a message I sent to my local lug earlier this week:

quote
Regular readers will be aware that my standard answers to the which
printer/multi-function device should I buy? are Hewlett Packard, HP
and Hewlett Packard, mainly because of their linux support. 

I am further impressed now that I have upgraded from the old hpoj/hpijs
drivers to the newer hplip drivers for my multi-function HP PSC 2210
printer/scanner/card reader/fax machine. 

hpoj required some pretty horrible command line stuff to get the printer
going, very unintuitive command structure and a case of following a set
of disconnected web pages. Sure it worked, but needed improvement.

The new beast was easier to set up and now includes an (optional) gui.
Screenshot available here:

http://rout.co.nz/hp-device-mgr.png

As you can see it has various panels, the first one has buttons to
trigger printing (brings up a gui where you can add files then print
them), scan (fires up xsane), Access photo cards (its own gui giving
thumbnails and the ability to copy some or all to another directory
etc). However Send fax is not yet implemented (nor was it from windows
when I bought the device). The programs that are actually fired up can
be configured withing the gui - ie you could bring up kooka instead of
xsane for scanning.

There is access to the print logs, various maintanance functions, and it
tells you how much ink you have left.

The functionality is also available on the command line, for example
hp-levels returns a nice little summary of the ink levels. hp-photo is
an ftp like client to access the photo card reader (actually not limited
to photos of course, its just a regular flash card reader).

All very nicely done, plus of course there are supplied PPD files so the
printer can work just fine with all the normal linux printing mechanisms
like cups. Whats more the icon to start the gui installed itself nicely
in the gnome menu :-)

I also discovered in the process how to get windows to print directly to
cups, without samba being involved, so that was a nice bonus.

And no, HP are not paying me to write this!
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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread Norberto Bensa
Mauro Faccenda wrote:
 Hi all,

 Does anyone can recommend a well-supported inkjet printer for using with
 Linux?

HP or Epson. Try to stay away from Lexmark printers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:21:56 -0300
Norberto Bensa wrote:

Try to stay away from Lexmark printers.
 
 --

Ironic.

IBM spin off Lexmark in 1991

IBM subsequently become big Linux supporters.

Lexmark don't give a toss about linux.

Such is life, thank goodness for HP.

Oh and I also notice that Brother do Linux support:

http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html

Haven't fully been able to ascertain how open it is.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB modem

2005-09-22 Thread Thanasis Papakonstantinou




A. Khattri wrote:

  On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Michael Kintzios wrote:

  
  
Googling around once you set your eyes on a particular USB modem usually
provides some useful clues.

  
  
Also reading /usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/acm.txt might be useful.


  

i found this list
http://freewebhosting.hostdepartment.com/g/gromitkc/usblist.html 
it is very interesting. Internet is full of resources.

Unfortunately i couldn't find any of those modems, in Greece. Anyway i
am not despaired yet, since in 5 days i am going to UK for studies, and
i hope that ther i could something that suites me

Thank you for your replies

Thanasis


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation: well linux-supported inkjet printers

2005-09-22 Thread W.Kenworthy
I agree: I have a Dell720 - a re-badged lexmark thrown in when I bought
a laptop.  A real pain to set up, had to get a propriety driver but is
now working and windoze ipp prints to it using the adobe postscript
drivers.  One (and only one!) doze machine will only print greyscale
tho!  Unfortunately my old canon bjc620 has died (probably because I had
to move to reinked cartidges - beware!) so this will have to do for the
moment.  Print quality is good.  I also believe Dell have changed the
cartidge shape so the cheaper, easier to get lexmark cartridges wont fit
- though my friendly reinker says he can do them (shudder...)

BillK


On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 00:21 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Mauro Faccenda wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Does anyone can recommend a well-supported inkjet printer for using with
  Linux?

 HP or Epson. Try to stay away from Lexmark printers.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can I do this with GNUPLOT?

2005-09-22 Thread Hareesh Nagarajan
On 9/22/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the problem needs to be specific because I have no idea what you are
 thinking of:

So I have the following files: rate1.txt, rate2.txt, ..., rateN.txt
rate1.txt has the following contents:

0  5
1 10
2 11
3 12.5
...
...

rate2.txt has the following contents:

0  15.7
1 12
2 12
3 124.5
...
...

and so on.

Now, I want to plot a graph which will take the corresponding lines
from each of the files and average it out:

For example: If I had rate1.txt and rate2.txt, I basically wish to
plot a file which looks like this

0 (5+15.7)/2
1 (10+12)/2
...
...

What I could do (and what I have done) is create a file rate.txt which
averages out the values in rate1.txt, rate2.txt,... rateN.txt and then
I could just plot rate.txt simply using GNUPLOT.

So I was wondering if I could avoid that step and tell GNUPLOT to do
the following:

``Hey GNUPLOT open files rate1.txt and rate2.txt. Let column1 in
rate1.txt be $1, column2 in rate1.txt be $a and column2 in rate2.txt
be $b, so plot $1 on the X axis and ($a+$b)/2 on the Y axis.

Whew!

Thanks for reading this!

Hareesh

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Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail-1.05 ebuild

2005-09-22 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:23:30 -0400
Brian Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Howdy Gentooers.
 
 I've created a relatively simple ebuild that strictly follows Dave  
 Sill's Life with qmail instructions found at http:// 
 www.lifewithqmail.org.  I'd be happy if a few other folks could test  
 it out as well.
 
  From the web page:
 
 qmail mail server software, installed and patched per http:// 
 www.lifewithqmail.org
 
 NOTE: This ebuild breaks and differs from standard and accepted  
 Gentoo conventions, with strict intention of following the Life
 With qmail installation instructions as closely as possible; but  
 automating the process with Portage. Therefore, you may notice  
 untypical behavior from this package (no /etc/init.d/ script, for  
 instance).
 
 AGAIN, if you're looking for qmail done the Gentoo way, use the  
 Gentooified qmail package included in portage; you will be happier.  
 However, if you are a minimalist and prefer things done according to  
 DJB himself and most of the qmail pros on the qmail mailing list,  
 look no further.
 
 FINAL NOTE: ucspi-tcp and daemontools are installed along with  
 netqmail in this ebuild, per the LWQ guide. You will receive
 blocks from portage if those packages have been installed
 seperately, so don't fret!
 
 
 The ebuild can be grabbed from here:
 http://briandowney.net/? 
 page=linuxsection=gentooebuildsebuild=netqmail
Hi,
Some days ago added an ebuild to Bug-106642 (netqmail-1.05 actually).
The intention was quite the same, have only base install (with only
required  essential patches included). Adding more later throu USE.
But choose to keep the gentoo-style (quite fully used the
qmail-1.03-r16.ebuild, some 99%) of the ebuild.
Also this one's keeping gentoo's daemontools,ucspi-tcp etc packages.
Thanks. Rumen


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