[gentoo-user] confused about suid

2006-01-28 Thread Robert Persson
I am trying to create a script so users can execute a certain command as root 
without entering a password. I thought suid was the way to do this, but I am 
not having any success.

The command I want to execute as root is echo -n mem  /sys/power/status.

I created a bash script (/usr/local/bin/suspendtoram) like so:

#!/bin/bash
echo -n mem  /sys/power/status

then set owner and group to root:root and made the script suid.

However this doesn't work. The error message goes:

/usr/local/bin/suspendtoram: line 2: /sys/power/state: Permission denied


I am still having to sudo echo -n mem  /sys/power/status and then to enter 
a password. What am I doing wrong?

thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/test doesn't seem to do anything

2006-01-28 Thread Beau E. Cox
On Friday 27 January 2006 09:43 pm, Robert Persson wrote:
 On Thursday 26 January 2006 16:22 Richard Fish was like:
  test doesn't output anything...it indicates success/failure with the
  exit code.  

 ...

  As others have said though, watch out for the 'test' command built-in
  to many shells, as the behavior there is defined by the shell.
  Generally though, /usr/bin/test and bash test should work the same

 It turns out that I was mistaken and the script was in fact invoking the
 bash built-in test (the /usr/bin/test stuff was my overactive imagination).

 /usr/bin/test is still weird, as Eric Bliss said, because it doesn't print
 help and version info the way the manpage says it should.

 A difference between the two tests is that, for /usr/bin/test, a non-zero
 exit status means false, whereas bash test resolves to a non-zero value
 when true.

Not true. Both exit with $? == 0 on success. Try this script:

#!/bin/sh

test -d /etc
echo test -d /etc : $?
/usr/bin/test -d /etc
echo /usr/bin/test -d /etc : $?

test -d /etcx
echo test -d /etcx : $?
/usr/bin/test -d /etcx
echo /usr/bin/test -d /etcx : $?

which outputs:

test -d /etc : 0
/usr/bin/test -d /etc : 0
test -d /etcx : 1
/usr/bin/test -d /etcx : 1



 Haven't had time to take another look at the bash script I was wrestling
 with. So still not sure whether bash test is being weird as well.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong time on reboot. Not a CMOS battery problem.

2006-01-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 January 2006 06:14, Abhay Kedia wrote:
  Is TZ set in your environment? If so, unset it and let /etc/localtime do
  the job.

 How can I know what is the TZ in my environment? Just curious.

env | grep TZ

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Re: [gentoo-user] Browser not launching.

2006-01-28 Thread Nagatoro

Nagatoro wrote:

Hi,

I have a very annoying problem. I can't open web links by clicking them.
If I set the default (Control-Center-KDE Components-Component Chooser 
and File Associations) and it works from pure KDE applications

but from others (eg thunderbird and xchat) it doesn't work. This behavior
seems to have developed when I made the change to ~x86.



Just to document the solution. Emerge gnome(-light?) and set the 
default browser there.


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Re: [gentoo-user] confused about suid

2006-01-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 January 2006 09:55, Robert Persson wrote:
 I am trying to create a script so users can execute a certain command as
 root without entering a password. I thought suid was the way to do this,
 but I am not having any success.

 The command I want to execute as root is echo -n mem  /sys/power/status.

 I created a bash script (/usr/local/bin/suspendtoram) like so:

 #!/bin/bash
 echo -n mem  /sys/power/status

 then set owner and group to root:root and made the script suid.

 However this doesn't work. The error message goes:

 /usr/local/bin/suspendtoram: line 2: /sys/power/state: Permission denied

Your script is suid root but neither the shell executing it nor the external 
command /bin/echo is. 

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] confused about suid

2006-01-28 Thread Harald Arnesen
Robert Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am trying to create a script so users can execute a certain command
 as root without entering a password. I thought suid was the way to do
 this, but I am not having any success.

 The command I want to execute as root is echo -n mem  /sys/power/status.

 I created a bash script (/usr/local/bin/suspendtoram) like so:

 #!/bin/bash
 echo -n mem  /sys/power/status

 then set owner and group to root:root and made the script suid.

 However this doesn't work. The error message goes:

 /usr/local/bin/suspendtoram: line 2: /sys/power/state: Permission denied


 I am still having to sudo echo -n mem  /sys/power/status and then
 to enter a password. What am I doing wrong?

suid shell-scripts are not allowed, for security reasons.
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Re: [gentoo-user] dead USB card?

2006-01-28 Thread Petr Kocmid
It looks like you have a USB 1.0 hub connected to USB 1.1 controller, if it's 
true, your scanner probably does not like it because of insuficient power 
and/or speed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't browse WinXP shares from gentoo

2006-01-28 Thread Robin
Can you login to the share using smbclient ?  smbclient //pc_name/share
To mount the share I just use mount -t smbfs -o
username=user,password=pass //robin/share /mnt/smb And my PC is
Windows XP SP2.  One think that maybe causing a problem is the Windows
Firewall It will give you strange errors when trying to connect to
shares.

Also I am not sure but consider looking at the docs if you hav enot
already: http://us5.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html

Hope some of this helps.

Robin

On 1/21/06, Ben Blount [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Go onto your roommates box and turn administrative tools on the start menu.
 Then go to Administrative tools, Local Security Policy. From there go to
 Local Policy - Security Options. In the right view, find Network Access:
 Sharing and Security for Local Accounts, then change that setting to Classic
 - local users authenticate as themselves. Also note the above setting where
 it shows which shares can be accessed anonymously.


 On 1/21/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You might want to uncheck simple file sharing in the file options and see
 if
  that works.
 
  On Saturday January 21 2006 19:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 11:45:38PM +0200, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
I can access my Windows XP Pro's shares with out user name or
password quite successfully. Using both xsmbrowser and mounting
them in the terminal. Are you sure that the other XP machines on
the network dont also require a password to access the shares?
  
   Did you have to do anything special to enable that kind of sharing?
  
   This is the only Windows box on the network (it's my local home
   LAN), so I don't have anything else to use as a comparison or
   reference.
  
   shrug
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] dead USB card?

2006-01-28 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Petr Kocmid wrote:


It looks like you have a USB 1.0 hub connected to USB 1.1 controller, if it's
true, your scanner probably does not like it because of insuficient power
and/or speed.


I didn't connect any hub, the controller is in a PCI card and the
scanner is connected to the card. The strange output of lspci is the
same whether the scanner is connected or not.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Connection blocking

2006-01-28 Thread Robin
Are you sure the Socket Server is actually listening on the port? The
app actually not running is the only real problem I can think of.

On 1/22/06, Mikhail Yarmish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some time ago, when I was making socket server with python I could
 connect to it via another computer from my network. Now I can't but I
 haven't emerged anything like iptables. I haven't make emerge --sync,
 also. So the question is - what can block any connects from the another
 computers in the same network?
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[gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update

2006-01-28 Thread Fredrik Lundgren

Dear list,

I haven't used my Gentoo for more than half a year or so (it was well 
updated then) so the other night I made an update


emerge --update system

and all appeared to go well (lots of updates) but when I rebooted i got

* checking root filesystem ...
Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory
* Filesystem couldn't be fixed: (Give root password for maintenance
   (or Control D to continue):_
---
Well I changed to root and tried
---
df
Filesystem1K-blockusedAvailableUse%Mount on
   35152904   8113240 2703966424%/
---
and

---
fsck -t resierfs /dev/hda2 (Confirmed with Yes)
Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory
---
The file system is there as I can use nano and navigate in the directory 
hierarchy and visit files.
I have, in Win XP, tested the partitions with 'Acronis Disk Director 
Suite' and they look OK

and don't have any errors.

Please, how should this be fixed?

Best wishes from a somewhat desperate Fredrik







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[gentoo-user] clamav klamav

2006-01-28 Thread Matthew R. Lee
I've just emerged clamav klamav.  Everything seems to have gone fine.  I 
did /etc/init.d/clamd restart.  I went through the klamav setup, again fine.  
But when I try to update the database it claims it can't connect to the 
network.  The network is up and running so its not the problem.  I've looked 
at the clamd.conf in /etc but there is nothing obvious, to me, in there to do 
with connecting to the network.  The klamav and clamav wikis were no help. 
I'm probably being thick, but but can anybody suggest what I'm missing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update

2006-01-28 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/28/06, Fredrik Lundgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 and all appeared to go well (lots of updates) but when I rebooted i got
 
 * checking root filesystem ...
 Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory
 * Filesystem couldn't be fixed: (Give root password for maintenance
 (or Control D to continue):_

Did you update the kernel version?  Are you still using devfs?  If so,
devfs has been removed from current kernels and you need to migrate to
udev.

Also, be sure to run etc-update, and fixup your configuration files in
/etc/conf.d.  Lots of stuff moved from /etc/rc.conf to /etc/conf.d/
files in the last 6 months, so you may have some issue there. 
Particularly there were changes in baselayout that decide whether to
startup devfs or udev.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dead USB card?

2006-01-28 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/27/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a USB PCI card which stopped working, meaning my scanner stopped
 being detected. The problem remains also under KNOPPIX.
 Can I assume the card is dead? (But it is recognized, sort of...)

 Partial output of lspci -vvv (as root):
 02:0c.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) 
 (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
 ehci_hcd: block sizes: qh 128 qtd 96 itd 192 sitd 96
 PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
 PCI: Assigned IRQ 11 for device :02:0c.3
 ehci_hcd :02:0c.3: controller already in use
 ehci_hcd :02:0c.3: init :02:0c.3 fail, -16
 ehci_hcd: probe of :02:0c.3 failed with error -16
 ohci_hcd: 2005 April 22 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI)
 ohci_hcd: block sizes: ed 64 td 64
 PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
 PCI: Assigned IRQ 5 for device :02:0c.0
 ohci_hcd :02:0c.0: controller already in use
 ohci_hcd :02:0c.0: init :02:0c.0 fail, -16
 ohci_hcd: probe of :02:0c.0 failed with error -16
 PCI: Assigned IRQ 11 for device :02:0c.1
 ohci_hcd :02:0c.1: controller already in use
 ohci_hcd :02:0c.1: init :02:0c.1 fail, -16
 ohci_hcd: probe of :02:0c.1 failed with error -16

It looks like the ohci and ehci drivers are fighting over the card. 
You don't need both, so I would disable ohci in your kernel
configuration and see if that works.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update

2006-01-28 Thread Fredrik Lundgren

Thanks for the advice,

To the best of my knoledge Kernel 2.6.15.1 was downloaded and installed. 
I haven't made any change with respect to devfs or udev. How should i 
make the migration? And I haven't used etc-update. What should I start 
with?


Again thanks from Fredrik
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after 
update




On 1/28/06, Fredrik Lundgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and all appeared to go well (lots of updates) but when I rebooted i 
got


* checking root filesystem ...
Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory
* Filesystem couldn't be fixed: (Give root password for maintenance
(or Control D to continue):_


Did you update the kernel version?  Are you still using devfs?  If so,
devfs has been removed from current kernels and you need to migrate to
udev.

Also, be sure to run etc-update, and fixup your configuration files in
/etc/conf.d.  Lots of stuff moved from /etc/rc.conf to /etc/conf.d/
files in the last 6 months, so you may have some issue there.
Particularly there were changes in baselayout that decide whether to
startup devfs or udev.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update

2006-01-28 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 28 January 2006 09:15, a tiny voice compelled Fredrik Lundgren to 
write:
 Thanks for the advice,

 To the best of my knoledge Kernel 2.6.15.1 was downloaded and installed.
 I haven't made any change with respect to devfs or udev. How should i
 make the migration? And I haven't used etc-update. What should I start
 with?


d'loading and emerging a new kernel version is not installing a new kernel. 
You would have had to compile the kernel with genkernel or # make menuconfig
Find your running kernel version with:
$ uname -a

Did you run etc-update after your updates? 

 Again thanks from Fredrik
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after
 update

  On 1/28/06, Fredrik Lundgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  and all appeared to go well (lots of updates) but when I rebooted i
  got
  
  * checking root filesystem ...
  Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory
  * Filesystem couldn't be fixed: (Give root password for maintenance
  (or Control D to continue):_
 
  Did you update the kernel version?  Are you still using devfs?  If so,
  devfs has been removed from current kernels and you need to migrate to
  udev.
 
  Also, be sure to run etc-update, and fixup your configuration files in
  /etc/conf.d.  Lots of stuff moved from /etc/rc.conf to /etc/conf.d/
  files in the last 6 months, so you may have some issue there.
  Particularly there were changes in baselayout that decide whether to
  startup devfs or udev.
 
  -Richard
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update

2006-01-28 Thread Fredrik Lundgren

Sorry for my misstake,
---
uname -a
Linux(none) 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 #8 Thu Feb 17 13:15:44 CET 2005 i686 
Intel(R) Pentium(R)

M processor 1.70 Ghz Centurion Intel GNU/Linux

etc-update
mkdir: cannot create directory '/var/tmp/1162': Read only file system
---
That must be my old Kernel which worked OK before my update
No I didn't run etc-update after my update when the system was up and 
working

Any way to mend the file system?

Fredrik

- Original Message - 
From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after 
update



On Saturday 28 January 2006 09:15, a tiny voice compelled Fredrik 
Lundgren to

write:

Thanks for the advice,

To the best of my knoledge Kernel 2.6.15.1 was downloaded and 
installed.

I haven't made any change with respect to devfs or udev. How should i
make the migration? And I haven't used etc-update. What should I 
start

with?



d'loading and emerging a new kernel version is not installing a new 
kernel.
You would have had to compile the kernel with genkernel or # make 
menuconfig

Find your running kernel version with:
$ uname -a

Did you run etc-update after your updates?


Again thanks from Fredrik
- Original Message -
From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after
update

 On 1/28/06, Fredrik Lundgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 and all appeared to go well (lots of updates) but when I rebooted 
 i

 got
 
 * checking root filesystem ...
 Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory
 * Filesystem couldn't be fixed: (Give root password for 
 maintenance

 (or Control D to continue):_

 Did you update the kernel version?  Are you still using devfs?  If 
 so,
 devfs has been removed from current kernels and you need to migrate 
 to

 udev.

 Also, be sure to run etc-update, and fixup your configuration files 
 in

 /etc/conf.d.  Lots of stuff moved from /etc/rc.conf to /etc/conf.d/
 files in the last 6 months, so you may have some issue there.
 Particularly there were changes in baselayout that decide whether 
 to

 startup devfs or udev.

 -Richard

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[gentoo-user] uname -a question

2006-01-28 Thread Ernie Schroder
Where does uname find kernel version? For my last 2 new kernels, uname -a 
returns some off the wall kernel version. It seems to be picking up extra 
info from God know where.

$ uname -a
Linux MRK 2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new #1 Fri Jan 27 12:38:49 EST 2006 i686 
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

running kernel lines from grub.conf:

title  Gentoo-2.6.15
root   (hd0,0)
kernel /bzImage-2.6.15-r1 root=/dev/hda5

cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 
3.4.4 
(Gentoo 3.4.4-r1, ssp-3.4.4-1.0, pie-8.7.8)) #1 Fri Jan 27 12:38:49 EST 2006

/lib/modules for the new kernels is affected too:

$ locate r12.6.14-r-4_new
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new
snip

Everything is working just fine, but this is annoying me to no end.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong time on reboot. Not a CMOS battery problem.

2006-01-28 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Abhay Kedia wrote:
 On Saturday 28 January 2006 02:55, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
  the /etc/adjtime file.  Throw it away, as it might be the
  adjusting feature that thinks your clock is drifting a full
  hour per hour (that is: ticks away two hours in one).

 That was it!!! That was the file causing all the pain. I moved it
 away and now there are no problems. Any ideas why it was doing
 it.

A possibility is that you've set the hwclock twice, first with a 
wrong time, then say ten minutes later you realize your watch is 
five minutes fast, and you set the clock again, with the correct 
time.  Now the adjust feature thinks your CMOS clock is ticking 
away ten minutes in just five minutes, and every time you boot your 
computer it will adjust the CMOS clock for this drift and then read 
it to set the system time.

This drift correction feature is useful, but one should be aware of 
it when setting the hardware clock manually: remove the /etc/adjtime 
file after 'hwclock --set' has been used with a wrong time.

 The file is obviously there for some reason

See man hwclock, the section on The Adjust Function.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update

2006-01-28 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/28/06, Fredrik Lundgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry for my misstake,
 ---
 uname -a
 Linux(none) 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 #8 Thu Feb 17 13:15:44 CET 2005 i686
 Intel(R) Pentium(R)
 M processor 1.70 Ghz Centurion Intel GNU/Linux

 etc-update
 mkdir: cannot create directory '/var/tmp/1162': Read only file system

Try (assuming you don't have a separate /var filesystem):

mount / -o remount,noatime,rw
etc-update

Once you have worked through that, edit /etc/conf.d/rc, which contains
many of the things that were once in /etc/rc.conf, including
RC_DEVICES.

Since you are still on 2.6.10, a udev migration is not /necessary/ to
fix your system, but I would still recommend it when you have some
time.  The basic steps are going to be:

emerge udev coldplug hotplug
edit /etc/conf.d/rc to set RC_DEVICES=udev
remove any udev/devfs options from the kernel command line in
/boot/grub/grub.conf
remove /dev/.devfs if it exists
reboot

You can find a lot more information on udev here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] uname -a question

2006-01-28 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/28/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where does uname find kernel version? For my last 2 new kernels, uname -a
 returns some off the wall kernel version. It seems to be picking up extra
 info from God know where.

It comes from the version embedded in the kernel, returned via the
uname system call (man 2 uname).

carcharias rjf # strace -v -e uname uname
uname({sysname=Linux, nodename=carcharias,
release=2.6.15-suspend2-r3, version=#3 PREEMPT Sat Jan 21 10:00:05
MST 2006, machine=i686}) = 0
uname({sysname=Linux, nodename=carcharias,
release=2.6.15-suspend2-r3, version=#3 PREEMPT Sat Jan 21 10:00:05
MST 2006, machine=i686}) = 0

 $ uname -a
 Linux MRK 2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new #1 Fri Jan 27 12:38:49 EST 2006 i686
 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

There are various ways these versions can be set, including
EXTRAVERSION and LOCALVERSION.

What are using to build these kernels?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update

2006-01-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 January 2006 16:15, Fredrik Lundgren wrote:
 Thanks for the advice,

 To the best of my knoledge Kernel 2.6.15.1 was downloaded and installed.
 I haven't made any change with respect to devfs or udev. How should i
 make the migration? And I haven't used etc-update. What should I start
 with?

Kernels don't get compiled and installed automatically. I bet you still run 
your old kernel which was configured for devfs. Your update probably unmerged 
devfsd or whatever the daemon was called. 

Now, how to plumb the hole? Boot from a liveCD, Mount your partitions the way 
your fstab would do it, chroot into your system that's on the harddrive, 
compile the kernel with udev, update /boot/grub/grub.conf) run etc-update 
and finally reboot with a bottle of cheap (Lundgren's your name?) aquavit at 
hand. ;-)

I have probably forgotten some steps but guess you get the picture. ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong time on reboot. Not a CMOS battery problem.

2006-01-28 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Saturday 28 January 2006 20:38, Benno Schulenberg wrote:

 See man hwclock, the section on The Adjust Function.

Thanks for the explanation and the tip. It certainly makes sense now :-)

Also, should I enable RTC in my kernel? I disabled it recently when I was 
trying to get to the root of this problem. I am also using HPET in my kernel. 
Can I use both these features? Do they clash with each other?

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Re: [gentoo-user] uname -a question

2006-01-28 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 28 January 2006 10:31, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to 
write:
 On 1/28/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Where does uname find kernel version? For my last 2 new kernels, uname -a
  returns some off the wall kernel version. It seems to be picking up extra
  info from God know where.

 It comes from the version embedded in the kernel, returned via the
 uname system call (man 2 uname).

 carcharias rjf # strace -v -e uname uname
 uname({sysname=Linux, nodename=carcharias,
 release=2.6.15-suspend2-r3, version=#3 PREEMPT Sat Jan 21 10:00:05
 MST 2006, machine=i686}) = 0
 uname({sysname=Linux, nodename=carcharias,
 release=2.6.15-suspend2-r3, version=#3 PREEMPT Sat Jan 21 10:00:05
 MST 2006, machine=i686}) = 0

  $ uname -a
  Linux MRK 2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new #1 Fri Jan 27 12:38:49 EST 2006
  i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

 There are various ways these versions can be set, including
 EXTRAVERSION and LOCALVERSION.

 What are using to build these kernels?

 -Richard
 using the typical change symlink copy over .config, make oldconfig make  
make modules_installcp arch etc.
Obviously, I made a typo last upgrade but I can't figure out how to fix it 
now.
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Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update

2006-01-28 Thread Fredrik Lundgren

Thanks again,
---
mount / -o remount, noatime,rw
---
gave no protests
---
etc-update
---
Worked this time and I updated all
and moved to my home directory and were able to change a file there
looked at /etc/conf.d/rc but made no chages
rebooted and ended up at the same place as before

* checking root filesystem ...
Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory
* Filesystem couldn't be fixed: (Give root password for maintenance
   (or Control D to continue):_
---
Either this wasn't the problem or I mixed up the correction somehow. It 
appears as if

the bootprocess sets the filesystem to be inaccesible?

Fredrik

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From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after 
update




On 1/28/06, Fredrik Lundgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry for my misstake,
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uname -a
Linux(none) 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 #8 Thu Feb 17 13:15:44 CET 2005 i686
Intel(R) Pentium(R)
M processor 1.70 Ghz Centurion Intel GNU/Linux

etc-update
mkdir: cannot create directory '/var/tmp/1162': Read only file system


Try (assuming you don't have a separate /var filesystem):

mount / -o remount,noatime,rw
etc-update

Once you have worked through that, edit /etc/conf.d/rc, which contains
many of the things that were once in /etc/rc.conf, including
RC_DEVICES.

Since you are still on 2.6.10, a udev migration is not /necessary/ to
fix your system, but I would still recommend it when you have some
time.  The basic steps are going to be:

emerge udev coldplug hotplug
edit /etc/conf.d/rc to set RC_DEVICES=udev
remove any udev/devfs options from the kernel command line in
/boot/grub/grub.conf
remove /dev/.devfs if it exists
reboot

You can find a lot more information on udev here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] clamav klamav

2006-01-28 Thread Robin
There is a decent Gentoo Wiki article on configuring Clamav.  Take a
look, that what I used for a guideline.  Unfortunately the wiki is
down now so I can't give you a link.  Just do a search when it comes
back online.

Robin

On 1/28/06, Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've just emerged clamav klamav.  Everything seems to have gone fine.  I
 did /etc/init.d/clamd restart.  I went through the klamav setup, again fine.
 But when I try to update the database it claims it can't connect to the
 network.  The network is up and running so its not the problem.  I've looked
 at the clamd.conf in /etc but there is nothing obvious, to me, in there to do
 with connecting to the network.  The klamav and clamav wikis were no help.
 I'm probably being thick, but but can anybody suggest what I'm missing?

 Matt
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 Departamento de Ecologia,
 P. Universidad Catolica de Chile,
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[gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r2 build error and locales

2006-01-28 Thread Martins Steinbergs
Hi,

My problem is with flphoto and fluxbox, which doesnt have text in menus, so I 
decided it would be nice to add us_gb locales
my make.conf has:
mar martins # cat /etc/make.conf | grep LINGUAS
LINGUAS=lv en

and locales.build now has:
en_US
en_US/ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8/UTF-8
en_GB
en_GB/ISO-8859-1
en_GB.UTF-8/UTF-8
lv_LV
lv_LV/ISO-8859-13
lv_LV.UTF-8/UTF-8

is there all correct?

now when i try rebuild glibc:

mar martins # emerge -pv glibc

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r2  USE=nls userlocales -build -erandom 
-glibc-compat20 -glibc-omitfp -hardened -linuxthreads-tls -nptl -nptlonly 
-pic -profile 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 k


rebuild ends with error:

/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.6-r2/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/dlfcn/libdl_pic.a(dlsym.os):
 
In function `__dlsym':
dlsym.c:(.text+0x42): undefined reference to `_rtld_global'
/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.6-r2/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/dlfcn/libdl_pic.a(dlvsym.os):
 
In function `__dlvsym':
dlvsym.c:(.text+0x42): undefined reference to `_rtld_global'
/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.6-r2/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/dlfcn/libdl_pic.a(dlerror.os):
 
In function `_dlerror_run':
dlerror.c:(.text+0x2bb): undefined reference to `_rtld_global_ro'
/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.6-r2/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/dlfcn/libdl_pic.a(dlinfo.os):
 
In function `dlinfo_doit':
dlinfo.c:(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `_rtld_global_ro'
dlinfo.c:(.text+0x6c): undefined reference to `_dl_rtld_di_serinfo'
/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.6-r2/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/dlfcn/libdl_pic.a(dlmopen.os):
 
In function `dlmopen_doit':
dlmopen.c:(.text+0x37): undefined reference to `_rtld_global_ro'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.6-r2/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/dlfcn/libdl.so]
 
Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.6-r2/work/glibc-2.3.6/malloc'
make[1]: *** [malloc/others] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.6-r2/work/glibc-2.3.6'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r2 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1894:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 941:   Called src_compile
  glibc-2.3.6-r2.ebuild, line 1231:   Called src_compile
  glibc-2.3.6-r2.ebuild, line 1242:   Called toolchain-glibc_src_compile

!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if 
relevant. 


Any suggestions what to do next?

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[gentoo-user] Re: vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-28 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
* Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/01/06 10:18]:
 
 On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 06:13:24AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote
 
  + and * , but only if you USE=vim-with-x.
 
   Did that, and it doesn't seem to help.  Here's my status...
 
 [m3000][root][~] emerge --pretend --verbose vim
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild   R   ] app-editors/vim-6.4  -acl -bash-completion -cscope -gpm
 -minimal -nls -perl -python -ruby +vim-with-x 0 kB
 
   Let me re-iterate what I'm trying to do...
   - In X, highlight a text string (e.g. a URL) in Firefox
   - hit {CTRL}{ALT}{F1}, taking me to a *REAL TEXT CONSOLE* running mutt
 or slrn, with vim as the editor
   - paste the complex URL directly into a message I'm composing with vim

Did you set DISPLAY before running mutt/slrn?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problem

2006-01-28 Thread Rafael Barrera Oro
Problem solved! i compiled all the required drivers as modules and
then ran alsaconf, now my sound is finally working.

Thanks to you all

Rafa

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[gentoo-user] emerge strace fails

2006-01-28 Thread Ernie Schroder
emerge strace fails with the following errors:
(updating a couple of packages since I first got these errors was successful)

resource.c:478: error: `Q_SETUSE' undeclared here (not in a function)
resource.c:478: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:478: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[4].val')
resource.c:478: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:478: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[4]')
resource.c:479: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:479: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[5]')
resource.c:480: error: `Q_SETQLIM' undeclared here (not in a function)
resource.c:480: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:480: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[6].val')
resource.c:480: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:480: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[6]')
resource.c:481: error: `Q_GETSTATS' undeclared here (not in a function)
resource.c:481: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:481: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[7].val')
resource.c:481: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:481: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[7]')
resource.c:482: error: `Q_RSQUASH' undeclared here (not in a function)
resource.c:482: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:482: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[8].val')
resource.c:482: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:482: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[8]')
resource.c:483: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:483: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[9]')
resource.c:484: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:484: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[10]')
resource.c:485: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:485: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[11]')
resource.c:486: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:486: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[12]')
resource.c:487: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:487: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[13]')
resource.c:488: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:488: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[14]')
resource.c:489: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:489: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[15]')
resource.c:490: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:490: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[16]')
resource.c:491: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:491: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[17]')
resource.c:492: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:492: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[18]')
resource.c:493: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:493: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[19]')
resource.c:494: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:494: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[20]')
resource.c:495: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:495: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[21]')
resource.c:496: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:496: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[22]')
resource.c:497: error: initializer element is not constant
resource.c:497: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[23]')
resource.c: In function `sys_quotactl':
resource.c:538: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2)
resource.c:539: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2)
resource.c:540: error: structure has no member named `dqb_curblocks'
resource.c:541: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2)
resource.c:542: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2)
resource.c:543: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2)
resource.c:544: warning: long unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2)
resource.c:545: warning: long unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2)
make[1]: *** [resource.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/strace-4.5.11/work/strace-4.5.11'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: dev-util/strace-4.5.11 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 566, Exitcode 2
!!! emake failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.


emerge --info
Portage 2.0.54 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.6-r2, 
2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14
dev-lang/python: 2.4.2
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu

[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild never seems to work

2006-01-28 Thread Sven Köhler
 What I don't understand is why doesn't it just do this:
 
 emerge app-admin/gnome-system-tools app-editors/gedit app-text/evince
 gnome-base/control-center gnome-base/gdm

because there are slotted packages - and revdep-rebuild would have to
take the newest version within the same slot. That is a task, that is
not very simple - well, actually portage (emerge itself) has a major bug
for slotted packages:
  emerge only noticed updates within the latest slot

(so portage will not notice any update to gcc 3.3 if you've got gcc 3.4
installed, for example)

 In other words, why does it try to force the = and the version?
 
 More often than not, if I take those off (like the second line), then shit
 just works.

yes, it does because you're lucky and don't have slotted packages in
that line.

 I've tried the flag --package-names, but it doesn't seem to do anything
 different.
 Am I being retarded? 

I remember, that it once worked for me! really!

You have to remove ~/.rev* and then run revdep-rebuild --package-names
again.



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Re: [gentoo-user] clamav klamav [solved]

2006-01-28 Thread Matthew R. Lee
Very simple, just needed to add my user to the clamav group.  Problem 
sorted :-)

Matt

On Saturday 28 January 2006 13:58, Robin wrote:
 There is a decent Gentoo Wiki article on configuring Clamav.  Take a
 look, that what I used for a guideline.  Unfortunately the wiki is
 down now so I can't give you a link.  Just do a search when it comes
 back online.

 Robin

 On 1/28/06, Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've just emerged clamav klamav.  Everything seems to have gone fine.  I
  did /etc/init.d/clamd restart.  I went through the klamav setup, again
  fine. But when I try to update the database it claims it can't connect to
  the network.  The network is up and running so its not the problem.  I've
  looked at the clamd.conf in /etc but there is nothing obvious, to me, in
  there to do with connecting to the network.  The klamav and clamav wikis
  were no help. I'm probably being thick, but but can anybody suggest what
  I'm missing?
 
  Matt

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[gentoo-user] 3.5 hours!

2006-01-28 Thread Ernie Schroder
I haven't seen any new posts in 3 and a half hours. That must be a new record.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3.5 hours!

2006-01-28 Thread Beau E. Cox
On Saturday 28 January 2006 12:52 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 I haven't seen any new posts in 3 and a half hours. That must be a new
 record. --
 Regards, Ernie

post, post, post, ... :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3.5 hours!

2006-01-28 Thread fire-eyes
Ernie Schroder wrote:
 I haven't seen any new posts in 3 and a half hours. That must be a new record.

Oh yeah? I guess this is a good time to post my problem then and break
that (other than this message).
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[gentoo-user] DHCP Timeouts

2006-01-28 Thread fire-eyes
I am having problems with dhcp on my wireless interface. Which is
confusing, it worked fine before. It just times out. If I assign
everything manually, there are no issues.

Some ask if it's because association with the AP is taking too long, but
I know it is not that, because I am manually starting wpa_supplicant
(which fails in gentoo init scripts for some reason, looks like it's
being called wrong). And that takes care of the association.

So confused...
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[gentoo-user] SOLVED: DHCP Timeouts

2006-01-28 Thread fire-eyes
fire-eyes wrote:
 I am having problems with dhcp on my wireless interface. Which is
 confusing, it worked fine before. It just times out. If I assign
 everything manually, there are no issues.
 
 Some ask if it's because association with the AP is taking too long, but
 I know it is not that, because I am manually starting wpa_supplicant
 (which fails in gentoo init scripts for some reason, looks like it's
 being called wrong). And that takes care of the association.
 
 So confused...

Looks like I got it... Further investigation showed that dhcpcd was
requesting 192.168.1.103 , when it had 1.100 before. I force it to
request .100 and it immediately worked...

Anyone know what that was all about?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)

2006-01-28 Thread Ian
Hey again!Im having issues.I saw on the gentoo forums that kdelibs-3.5.1 isn't on the servers yet, but I cant seem to get it to go down to 3.5.0. In order for me to get 3.5 anything I needed to unmask all of the packages
im building in package.keywords. So I get:#USE=-arts alsa emerge -p kicker kdesktop konqueror kcontrol kdesu
kcalc kmplot kontact kopete kwifimanager konsole digikam kdevelop kdm



These are the packages that I would merge, in order:



Calculating dependencies ...done!

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/libkonq-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kicker-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.0 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kdialog-3.5.0 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kcminit-3.5.0 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kdesu-3.5.0 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kdm-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/konqueror-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kcalc-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kmplot-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/ktnef-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/libkcal-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/libkdepim-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/libkpgp-3.5.0 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/libkdenetwork-3.5.0 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/certmanager-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/libkpimidentities-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kontact-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kopete-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/kwifimanager-3.5.1 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/konsole-3.5.1 

[ebuild  U ] media-gfx/digikam-0.7.4-r1 [0.7.1] 

[ebuild N  ] kde-base/cervisia-3.5.1 

[ebuild  U ] dev-util/kdevelop-3.2.1-r1 [3.1.2] 
How do I only get 3.5.0?Thanks!!!On 1/27/06, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL, I use webmail, and I forgot about konq.Thanks!On 1/27/06, Benno Schulenberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:Ian wrote: What is the bare minimum? Its emerge kicker kdesktop
 konsole kcontrol right?No, leave out the kdesktop, it will get pulled in automatically, atleast here it did.Also, you won't need kcontrol if you don't wantto adjust anything.But don't you want kmail and konqueror?
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[gentoo-user] getting the right answer from `hostname --long'

2006-01-28 Thread reader
Just trashed the mobo on my gentoo machine and reinstalled on a
different machine entirely.

(sendmail-8.13.4)
I'm setting up sendmail... something I've done many times but each
time it has been a right pain in the butt.  No exception this time...
I'm not running a mailserver, just a stand alone machine that
retrieves and sends my personal mail.

I've used sendmail successfully for 8-9 yrs and have no interest in
changing MTA's unless there is a very good reason.

In previous installs I haven't had this particular problem.  Sendmail
and other apps complain of not finding a qualified host name.

I've always used a home-made host name (for 8-9 yrs now)... 
in this case:
   chub.local.net0

I've setup these files:

hosts - resolv.conf - /etc/conf.d/hostname - /etc/conf.d/domainname

I'm not running bind or anything involving /etc/nsswitch

Putting the right stuff in these has always done the trick but not
this time.  I may be forgetting something:

hosts:
  
  127.0.0.1   localhost  chub
  ## 
  192.168.x.xx chub.local.net0  chub   # gentoo
  [...]

Resolv.conf:
  nameserver 192.168.0.20 # Its a gateway router that queries 
  # IPS nameservers
  domain local.net0

/etc/conf.d/hostname:
   # Set to the hostname of this machine
   HOSTNAME=chub

/etc/conf.d/domainname:

# /etc/conf.d/domainname

  # When setting up resolv.conf, what should take precedence?
  # If you wish to always override DHCP/whatever, set this to 1.
  OVERRIDE=1
  
  # To have a proper FQDN, you need to setup /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf
  # properly (domain entry in /etc/resolv.conf, and FQDN in /etc/hosts).
  # 
  DNSDOMAIN=local.net0
  
  # This only set what /bin/hostname returns.  If you need to setup NIS, meaning
  # what /bin/domainname returns, please see:
  #
  #   http://www.linux-nis.org/nis-howto/HOWTO/
  # 
  # NISDOMAIN=


With all this set the `hostname' command returns:
  hostname chub
  hostname --long localhost

I want to see `local.net0' not `localhost'... so does sendmail and
squid I think.

Can anyone spot what I've forgotten or messed up?

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