[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild command doesn't fix broken libs it finds

2008-03-02 Thread Bob Young

After a recent emerge -DuN world, messages for one of the packages stated
that it was necessary to run revdep-rebuild after emerging the package, so I
did. The revdep-rebuild ended up merging six packages, with one of them
being gcc. Emerging all six packages took several hours, and I noticed that
gcc by itself took a significant amount of time.

The final message stated that I could re-run revdep-rebuild to verify that
all inconsistencies had been resolved, unfortunately, I did not add a -p to
the command and to my surprise it spent the next couple of hours or so
emerging gcc again.

After that finished, I again ran revdep-rebuild although this time with a -p
and below is the output: 
__

Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

Checking reverse dependencies...

Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
will be emerged.

Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)

Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)

Checking dynamic linking consistency...
  broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgcjawt.la (requires
/usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)
  broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgij.la (requires
/usr/lib/libgcj.la)
 done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild)

Assigning files to ebuilds... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.4_ebuilds)

Evaluating package order... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)

All prepared. Starting rebuild...
emerge --oneshot -p =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2
Now you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and re-run
revdep-rebuild.
__

It wants to build gcc again. I don't want to have to build gcc every time I
need to use revdep-rebuild. The final message from revdep-rebuild is: 


Build finished correctly. Removing temporary files...
You can re-run revdep-rebuild to verify that all libraries and binaries
are fixed. If some inconsistency remains, it can be orphaned file, deep
dependency, binary package or specially evaluated library.  


How do I determine if this is a case of orphaned file, deep dependency,
binary package or specially evaluated library and, if it is one of those,
how do I determine which one, and then how do I fix this...?

Thanks for listening,
Bob Young
San Jose, CA

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild command doesn't fix broken libs it finds

2008-03-02 Thread Dale

Bob Young wrote:

After a recent emerge -DuN world, messages for one of the packages stated
that it was necessary to run revdep-rebuild after emerging the package, so I
did. The revdep-rebuild ended up merging six packages, with one of them
being gcc. Emerging all six packages took several hours, and I noticed that
gcc by itself took a significant amount of time.

The final message stated that I could re-run revdep-rebuild to verify that
all inconsistencies had been resolved, unfortunately, I did not add a -p to
the command and to my surprise it spent the next couple of hours or so
emerging gcc again.

After that finished, I again ran revdep-rebuild although this time with a -p
and below is the output: 
  SNIP 


How do I determine if this is a case of orphaned file, deep dependency,
binary package or specially evaluated library and, if it is one of those,
how do I determine which one, and then how do I fix this...?

Thanks for listening,
Bob Young
San Jose, CA

  


This may help:  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728  I'm not 
sure what changed but mine does not do this any more.  I'm using 
app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 at the moment.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ghosting a Ext3 partition

2008-03-02 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Rasmus Andersen wrote:


If you do backup live filesystems/data then dump is on par with dd; both
read from the underlying device and might bypass the kernel's page cache.
Ie., there might be unwritten data cached thats not on disk yet.
Tar/rdiff-backup/etc reads through the pagecache and avoids this problem.

The dump people talk a bit about this themselves on

   http://dump.sourceforge.net/isdumpdeprecated.html

Note I dont want to dis dump, backing up live filesystems is just tricky
(depending on your consistency requirements :) and dump adds another
level to that.


  


Understood - I have seen that article too. I must say, I've mainly had 
experience with 'dump' on Freebsd and 'xfsdump' on Linux, and never had 
restore issues with *either* of these. Now I'm not sure whether these 
are supposed to be better than 'dump' on Linux aimed at ext2|3 
filesystems - certainly Freebsd's 'dump' has an option to tell it that 
it is dumping a 'live' filesystem, and the man pages for xfsrestore have 
notes concerning what happens when restoring an (xfs)dump from a 'live' 
filesystem - so they may well be!


On the other hand I've certainly routinely seen cases of people using dd 
(rsync, cpio, tar etc) and coming to grief at restore time. I am 
reluctant to suggest that folks use xfs and hence get access to xfsdump, 
as one of the nice things  about Linux is the  choice of a variety of 
filesystems - but it is pretty important to get able to backup of (for 
instance ) / ... and you usually don't have much option other than doing 
it live!


regards

Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild command doesn't fix broken libs it finds

2008-03-02 Thread Erik

Bob Young skrev:

How do I determine if this is a case of orphaned file, deep dependency,
binary package or specially evaluated library and, if it is one of those,
how do I determine which one, and then how do I fix this...?
  

There are 2 commands:
% qfile /path/to/file
% equery b /path/to/file

qfile is in app-portage/portage-utils and equery is in 
app-portage/gentoolkit. They both show which package a file belongs to. 
If the file does not belong to a package it is orphaned. Then it is up 
to you whether to keep or remove it. If it belongs to a package, check 
if it is binary.

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[gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!

2008-03-02 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I changed the monitor on a box that runs kdm/KDE and the fonts on KDE apps are 
giving me a headache from eye strain.  This is particularly bad when working 
at a console (white letters on black background) and KDE text editors (with 
black letters on white background).  Essentially, the antiailiasing seems to 
alter the consistency of fonts in an irregular manner causing them to blur 
(differently) across the screen, as if the monitor resolution is out of sync.

The resolution in xorg.conf is set at 360 290 mm, but the DDC picks this up on 
its own anyway, whether I define it in xorg.conf, or not.  I have no modeline 
set.  All I can think that is amiss is the DPI.  I seem to be getting a DPI 
of 90x89:

$ xdpyinfo | grep resolution
  resolution:90x89 dots per inch

Could this be the cause of my headache and how should I fix it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Chris Walters

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Hello Mark,

I was under the impression that packages with the ~amd64 (or ~x86) keywords are
in testing, but no serious instabilities had been found, or they would be hard
masked.

I have had non-testing packages break my system before, as well.  What
generally happens is the the environment variables become messed up, or the
service dependencies do - either way, I can't use emerge or any of the
available utilities to fix the problem, or even find out what it does.

About a year ago, I went to a testing system and haven't had any problems,
except when I re-install Gentoo.  I guess it is always a choice - either go
with the stable version of a distribution or you go with the testing version
(some people really push the envelope and go for the unstable version).

I read up on the keywords, and found out that having the ~mad64 keyword on a
package just means that it hasn't been adequately tested on that architecture.
That's how people like me help move things along - by testing those packages on
our systems, and reporting any problems we find.

Regards,
Chris

Mark Knecht wrote:
| On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Chris Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  Hello,
|
|  Can anyone tell me what packages you know of that will break your system if 
you
|  choose to put ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in your make.conf file?  I have had 
my
|  system break, twice now, from a package upgrade - I think that one of the
|  culprits is gawk, but can't be certain.
|
|  I do know that the only way to fix the problem was to restore from backup, 
or
|  to try re-installing again.  I just want to know which packages are so 
unstable
|  that I should mask them.  TIA.
|
|  Regards,
|  Chris
|
|
| Hi Chris,
|I don't think your question can be answered as phrased.
|
|*Any* package marked with '~' is 'new', 'in testing', 'unstable',
| etc. Very few (in my experience) 'break' my machine, but I have a rule
| that any package energed as part of emerge system must be stable and I
| personally add ~x86 or ~amd64 only for specific packages that I want
| or need some new feature.
|
| Hope this helps,
| Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!

2008-03-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 2. März 2008, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 I changed the monitor on a box that runs kdm/KDE and the fonts on KDE apps
 are giving me a headache from eye strain.  This is particularly bad when
 working at a console (white letters on black background) and KDE text
 editors (with black letters on white background).  Essentially, the
 antiailiasing seems to alter the consistency of fonts in an irregular
 manner causing them to blur (differently) across the screen, as if the
 monitor resolution is out of sync.

 The resolution in xorg.conf is set at 360 290 mm, but the DDC picks this up
 on its own anyway, whether I define it in xorg.conf, or not.  I have no
 modeline set.  All I can think that is amiss is the DPI.  I seem to be
 getting a DPI of 90x89:

 $ xdpyinfo | grep resolution
   resolution:90x89 dots per inch

 Could this be the cause of my headache and how should I fix it?

post your xorg.conf? drivers? increase font size?
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

2008-03-02 Thread Stroller


On 1 Mar 2008, at 00:37, maxim wexler wrote:

...
If you're looking for PC power supply on ebay and you
come across a Dynex, big quiet fan, PCI-E, SATA, 24
pin for cheap from 2213Joseph. New in Box! Don't buy
it. You'll get the Dynex box alright and a new PS but
it's just a run of the mill, noisy, substandard unit.
No SATA, no PCI-E etc.

This is such an obvious fraud it makes me wonder at
his 100% positive feedback.

I've started a dispute with Paypal against him.


Just to add to your other replies, it is just possible this is an  
honest mistake.


From what you've told us it's possible that the seller didn't look  
inside the box and assumed it was a new PSU, after their spouse  
tidied the old one up into an empty box. Certainly, I always keep  
packaging in case I need to make a warranty return, and in the case  
that a PC is just misbehaving, with random reboots  stuff, the first  
thing I do is replace the PSU, keeping the old one in case that makes  
no difference.


I would email the seller in the first instance  see what they have  
to say. If, as a seller, I found I had made such a mistake, I would  
send you a refund or replacement immediately. As a buyer I wouldn't  
be prepared to pay the cost of shipping the duff component back to  
the seller, and wouldn't expect the seller to insist on that. If the  
seller isn't prepared to accommodate you then give them a negative  
feedback - a scammer with several negs will be quickly obvious from  
their feedback score, and will quickly lose sales. I personally  
wouldn't have high expectations of the buyer protection offered by  
fleaBay or ThievingScumPal.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [Probably off-topic] How do I find out what is consuming the bandwidth?

2008-03-02 Thread Stroller


On 1 Mar 2008, at 20:56, Alan McKinnon wrote:

...
There's one other way that I just remembered (for future  
reference). You

don't *have* to use a linux machine as a gateway if you have a decent
managed switch - set it to route all traffic on all ports out through
the port that a monitoring machine is connected to. In other words,
that one part acts like a hub. Now that the monitoring machine can see
every bit on the entire Ethernet, it can count 'em :-)

However, these switches cost a fortune and I very much doubt that the
el-cheapo ADSL routers on the market have this feature. Both of mine
certainly don't.


FYI: these are actually really cheap secondhand on eBay, if you're  
happy with 10/100, or 10/100 with 2 x gigabit ports.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Ghosting a Ext3 partition

2008-03-02 Thread Rasmus Andersen
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:51:47PM +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
 Understood - I have seen that article too. I must say, I've mainly had 
 experience with 'dump' on Freebsd and 'xfsdump' on Linux, and never had 
 restore issues with *either* of these. Now I'm not sure whether these are 
 supposed to be better than 'dump' on Linux aimed at ext2|3 filesystems - 
 certainly Freebsd's 'dump' has an option to tell it that it is dumping a 
 'live' filesystem, and the man pages for xfsrestore have notes concerning 
 what happens when restoring an (xfs)dump from a 'live' filesystem - so they 
 may well be!

FreeBSD's softupdates should make filesystem state always consistent,
metadatawise. Or so I think I remember, its been a while. That might
aleviate some of the problems noted on the dump page I referenced.

 On the other hand I've certainly routinely seen cases of people using dd 
 (rsync, cpio, tar etc) and coming to grief at restore time. I am reluctant 
 to suggest that folks use xfs and hence get access to xfsdump, as one of 
 the nice things  about Linux is the  choice of a variety of filesystems - 
 but it is pretty important to get able to backup of (for instance ) / ... 
 and you usually don't have much option other than doing it live!

I use rdiff-backup for my backups but then again I have low requirements
wrt. consistency outside file-level. I have considered LVM snapshots
since I use LVM already but havent bothered so far.

Cheers,
  Rasmus
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[gentoo-user] what's PMS?

2008-03-02 Thread Chuanwen Wu
In GMN20080218, there is a section:

EAPI=1 (Where is the specification?): The general agreement was that
any new EAPIs should not be added until EAPI=0 is fully approved.
However, there wasn't any consensus on changing anything about EAPI=1.
Mark Loeser agreed to work on PMS for EAPI=0, and will provide an
update at the next meeting.

I just don't know what PMS and EAPI means.
Anyone can explain?

Thanks in advanced!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, Dan Farrell wrote:

Can anyone tell me what packages you know of that will break
   your system if you choose to put ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in your
   make.conf file?  I have had my system break, twice now, from a
   package upgrade - I think that one of the culprits is gawk, but
   can't be certain.
  
I do know that the only way to fix the problem was to restore
   from backup, or to try re-installing again.  I just want to know
   which packages are so unstable that I should mask them.  TIA.

 doesn't sound like a broken package to me.  perhaps something else
 got borked?

Or maybe some unusual compiler settings?

OP, please post your /etc/make.conf



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[gentoo-user] Apache 2 + portage

2008-03-02 Thread dexters84

Hi

I'm a little confused as long as new Apache use flags are concerned. 
With old Apache versions ( pre 2.2.6) all valid flags shown in

*emerge -pv Apache*
could have been set in /etc/portage/package.use in following format
*www-servers/apache flag flag -foo -bar flag*
and life was great :)

Unfortunately with the new version the concept changed. Some flags 
contain *% *some contain* ** and some both (not sure what it is for) - I 
only know that flags enclosed like this *(flag)  *are the one I have 
selected before.


My main problem is that emerge apache command is not affected by flag 
settings in /etc/portage/package.use in any way.

How do I properly set new apache flags ?
Where do I define APACHE2_MODULES ?
Where do I define APACHE2_MPMS ?

regards
dexter
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache 2 + portage

2008-03-02 Thread Lobotomia
2008/3/2, dexters84 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  My main problem is that emerge apache command is not affected by flag
  settings in /etc/portage/package.use in any way.
  How do I properly set new apache flags ?
  Where do I define APACHE2_MODULES ?
  Where do I define APACHE2_MPMS ?

as defined in http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/apache-upgrading.xml
you can use APACHE2_MODULES an APACHE2_MPMS  in /etc/make.conf

if you upgrade from version  2.2.6-r4 you can use this two shell line:

echo APACHE2_MODULES=\$(sed
'/^mod_/s/mod_\(.*\)\s\+\(shared\|static\)/\1/;t n;d;:n'
/etc/apache2/apache2-builtin-mods)\  /etc/make.conf

rm /etc/apache2/apache2-builtin-mods



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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:09:45 -0500, Chris Walters wrote:

 Can anyone tell me what packages you know of that will break your
 system if you choose to put ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in your make.conf
 file?  I have had my system break, twice now, from a package upgrade -
 I think that one of the culprits is gawk, but can't be certain.

I run two completely ~amd64 systems here and have very few problems.

 I do know that the only way to fix the problem was to restore from
 backup, or to try re-installing again.  I just want to know which
 packages are so unstable that I should mask them.  TIA.

The ~ in ~amd64 means the ebuilds are in testing, not that they, or the
software they install, are considered unstable in the likely to crash
meaning of the term. Because you are using bleeding edge ebuilds, there
is the odd occasion when things don't play nicely together, or mistakes
are made. The gawk problem one one such situation, where it depended on a
library in /usr/lib and broke any system with /usr on a separate
filesystem. It didn't require a reinstall to fix, I know because I was
hit by it and didn't reinstall. It was a one-off that was fixed quickly,
if you didn't sync and update each day you could easily have missed it.

The testing ebuilds are for just that, it is only by people using them
and reporting problems that those problems are kept out of the stable
tree. If you are not prepared to deal with the occasional problem,
running a testing system is not for you.


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Re: [gentoo-user] what's PMS?

2008-03-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 2. März 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote:
 In GMN20080218, there is a section:

 EAPI=1 (Where is the specification?): The general agreement was that
 any new EAPIs should not be added until EAPI=0 is fully approved.
 However, there wasn't any consensus on changing anything about EAPI=1.
 Mark Loeser agreed to work on PMS for EAPI=0, and will provide an
 update at the next meeting.

 I just don't know what PMS and EAPI means.
in gentoo:
PMS = Package Manager Specification.

What a gentoo package manager has to be able to do, how it does certain steps 
etc pp. Portage is compatible by definition.

EAPI = afaik ebuild api. Current ebuilds are all eapi = 0. If there are 
incompatible changes to the ebuild structure in the future, this ebuilds will 
use eapi 1, 2,  it is mostly a sign for the package manager telling it 
how to deal with the ebuild.


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
 Hi group,

 Notice in the following portage has nothing to say
 about blockers following a warning from
 revdep-rebuild. And the -u switch calls forth an
 earlier version of python but without the -u switch is
 content to re-emerge the newer package which I already
 have on my system.

Um, yes it does have something to say about blockers. It explicitly 
states that python-2.3.6-r2 conflicts with something else (probably 
python-updater):

 !!! Error: the dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 package
 conflicts with another package;
 !!!the two packages cannot be installed on the
 same system together.
 !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine
 blockers.

You have a python-2.3 and python-2.4 on your system,probably left over 
from ages ago, as emerge will not by default unmerge an older SLOT when 
you install a newer SLOT of a package.

You can probably get rid of python-2.3 safely, but first find out what 
is using it:

equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3

If nothing, then unmerge it, but first you might want to make a backup 
(just in case):

quickpkg =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3

then run python-updater

Now do 
emerge -avuND world 
to make sure everything is up to date followed by
emerge -av --depclean
and
revdep-rebuild

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:10:39 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote:

 Notice in the following portage has nothing to say
 about blockers following a warning from
 revdep-rebuild. And the -u switch calls forth an
 earlier version of python but without the -u switch is
 content to re-emerge the newer package which I already
 have on my system.
 
 This was all precipitated after emerge xcircuit I was
 advised to upgrade tk and tclx and then
 revdep-rebuild.
 
 emerge -u tk just said zero packages to emerge. Not
 no ebuilds to satisfy 'tk', zero packages.

That's because you already have the latest available version of tk
installed, so there is nothing for emerge -u to do.

 All prepared. Starting rebuild...
 emerge --oneshot  =dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r6
 =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
 ..
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 
 !!! Error: the dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 package
 conflicts with another package;
 !!!the two packages cannot be installed on the
 same system together.
 !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine
 blockers.

You need to do what it says, run the emerge command from revdep-rebuild
with the --pretend option.

 localhost heathen # emerge -puv python

This is not the same. Python is slotted and it appears that your system
has, or at least needs, 2.3 and 2.4 so run the command it tells you to to
see what blocks what.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache 2 + portage

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, dexters84 wrote:
 Hi

 I'm a little confused as long as new Apache use flags are concerned.
 With old Apache versions ( pre 2.2.6) all valid flags shown in
 *emerge -pv Apache*
 could have been set in /etc/portage/package.use in following format
 *www-servers/apache flag flag -foo -bar flag*
 and life was great :)

 Unfortunately with the new version the concept changed. Some flags
 contain *% *some contain* ** and some both (not sure what it is for)
 - I only know that flags enclosed like this *(flag)  *are the one I
 have selected before.

That's not an Apache thing - it's an emerge display output thing.

See 'man emerge' in the --verbose section for details.

 My main problem is that emerge apache command is not affected by flag
 settings in /etc/portage/package.use in any way.
 How do I properly set new apache flags ?
 Where do I define APACHE2_MODULES ?
 Where do I define APACHE2_MPMS ?

Apache now pays attention to these flags:

 Installed versions:  2.2.8-r1(2)(14:59:42 02/03/08)
(apache2_modules_actions apache2_modules_alias 
apache2_modules_auth_basic apache2_modules_auth_digest 
apache2_modules_authn_anon apache2_modules_authn_dbd 
apache2_modules_authn_dbm apache2_modules_authn_default 
apache2_modules_authn_file apache2_modules_authz_dbm 
apache2_modules_authz_default apache2_modules_authz_groupfile 
apache2_modules_authz_host apache2_modules_authz_owner 
apache2_modules_authz_user apache2_modules_autoindex 
apache2_modules_cache apache2_modules_dav apache2_modules_dav_fs 
apache2_modules_dav_lock apache2_modules_dbd apache2_modules_deflate 
apache2_modules_dir apache2_modules_disk_cache apache2_modules_env 
apache2_modules_expires apache2_modules_ext_filter 
apache2_modules_file_cache apache2_modules_filter 
apache2_modules_headers apache2_modules_ident apache2_modules_imagemap 
apache2_modules_include apache2_modules_info apache2_modules_log_config 
apache2_modules_logio apache2_modules_mem_cache apache2_modules_mime 
apache2_modules_mime_magic apache2_modules_negotiation 
apache2_modules_proxy apache2_modules_proxy_ajp 
apache2_modules_proxy_balancer apache2_modules_proxy_connect 
apache2_modules_proxy_http apache2_modules_rewrite 
apache2_modules_setenvif apache2_modules_speling apache2_modules_status 
apache2_modules_unique_id apache2_modules_userdir 
apache2_modules_usertrack apache2_modules_vhost_alias doc ldap ssl 
threads -apache2_modules_asis -apache2_modules_authn_alias 
-apache2_modules_cern_meta -apache2_modules_charset_lite 
-apache2_modules_dumpio -apache2_modules_log_forensic 
-apache2_modules_proxy_ftp -apache2_modules_version -apache2_mpms_event 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

2008-03-02 Thread maxim wexler
 
 well, I buyed hardware over 40 times on ebay - and I
 was always a very 
 satisfied costumer. From mainboards, cpus to
 tapedrives and libs, I always 
 got the right stuff. 

Me too. This has been my first experience of outright
fraud. I've been shipped the wrong stuff or broken
stuff but the seller always made good in the end.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

2008-03-02 Thread maxim wexler
 
  From what you've told us it's possible that the
 seller didn't look  
 inside the box and assumed it was a new PSU, after
 their spouse  
 tidied the old one up into an empty box. Certainly,
 I always keep  
 packaging in case I need to make a warranty return,
 and in the case  
 that a PC is just misbehaving, with random reboots 
 stuff, the first  
 thing I do is replace the PSU, keeping the old one
 in case that makes  
 no difference.

Nah, this guy sells lots of them. The power supply he
did mail is brand new -- just not the one I thought I
was buying. The box originally had been sealed by Best
Buy. The box came with the original Dynex User Guide.
My theory: these are cheap run of the mill PSs put
into Dynex boxes acquired from Best Buy which used the
original PSs in their PCs. The seller took a picture
of the box and put that on eBay. When the order comes
in he takes a shiny new PS New and puts it in the
Dynex box in Box!. So, technically he hasn't lied.
Typical scamster M.O.

 
 I would email the seller in the first instance  see
 what they have  
 to say. 

No reply

 feedback - a scammer with several negs will be
 quickly obvious from  
 their feedback score, 

This is puzzling. Maybe the seller gets his family and
friends to buy stuff and give him props. Then he
runs his scam, cancels his account and starts another.
Where's my tinfoil hat!


 personally  
 wouldn't have high expectations of the buyer
 protection offered by  
 fleaBay or ThievingScumPal.
 
It should be in their best interest to supply good
service.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Chris Walters

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
| On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:09:45 -0500, Chris Walters wrote:

| I run two completely ~amd64 systems here and have very few problems.

I've run testing on Gentoo and other distributions.  With Gentoo, for over a
year, with few problems, and those were generally easily fixed.

| The ~ in ~amd64 means the ebuilds are in testing, not that they, or the
| software they install, are considered unstable in the likely to crash
| meaning of the term. Because you are using bleeding edge ebuilds, there
| is the odd occasion when things don't play nicely together, or mistakes
| are made. The gawk problem one one such situation, where it depended on a
| library in /usr/lib and broke any system with /usr on a separate
| filesystem. It didn't require a reinstall to fix, I know because I was
| hit by it and didn't reinstall. It was a one-off that was fixed quickly,
| if you didn't sync and update each day you could easily have missed it.
|
| The testing ebuilds are for just that, it is only by people using them
| and reporting problems that those problems are kept out of the stable
| tree. If you are not prepared to deal with the occasional problem,
| running a testing system is not for you.

I find these paragraphs to be rude and insulting.  I am not an idiot - I know
exactly what testing means, and what unstable means.  Just because I ask a
relatively simple question in this group does not mean that I am not prepared
to deal with the occasional problem.  Were that the case, I would not be
working with computers at all, since all operating systems and distributions
have an occasional problem even in their stable branches.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

2008-03-02 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   On Saturday 01 March 2008, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
  
   Hello list,
  
   I am struggling with an old Compaq Proliant 1600 for a while. It
   boots perfectly using the Minimal Install CD, and all the install
   process goes well. When its time to boot its own kernel, GRUB loads
   the files, goes to the message OK, booting the kernel. and just
   hangs there. I used genkernel to compile the kernel. I'm now trying
   to compile it manually to see if it will work.
  
   Please note that this particular machine has no SMART-2 Array
   controller, so the disks are seen as common SCSI devices (sda and
   sdb), currently I'm installing the whole system at sda, leaving b
   untouched for backup purposes when I get this beast up and running.
  
   Anyone has any experience booting one of these machines?
  
  
   Not this specific model, but I would start by comparing the boot command
   and modules loaded from the Minimal CD with what you are trying to use
   when booting the installed OS.
  
   Supplying some error messages, command lines and even a relevant config
   file or two at this point might be found to be useful by those inclined
   to help you out of this predicament...
  
  
  

  I *think* I have one of these old boat anchors out in my shop.  I'm not
  sure if it still boots or not but I may could get you a .config file for
  the kernel if you have no luck any other way.  I say 'any other way'
  cause I would have to drag that monster in the house and hook it back up
  to the network to access it.

  Let me know if all else fails.  I'll check the model before hooking the
  tractor and chain to it.  LOL


Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
would work).

Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.

Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:03:44 -0500
Chris Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I find these paragraphs to be rude and insulting.  I am not an idiot
 - I know exactly what testing means, and what unstable means.
 Just because I ask a relatively simple question in this group does
 not mean that I am not prepared to deal with the occasional
 problem.  Were that the case, I would not be working with computers
 at all, since all operating systems and distributions have an
 occasional problem even in their stable branches.
 
 Chris

If I may speak for Neil, he provides a lot of very useful information
to the list and is a very courteous poster as well.  In my mind, that
little lemming that somehow appears along with his emails is
the sign of a good addition to the thread.  I'm sure he didn't
mean to insult you. I hope that you agree that even though you started
the thread, the information he gave could be useful to others reading
it. I thought it was an informative and well-written post myself, not
that yours aren't, but don't be too defensive.  We're all here to learn
(and perhaps to teach, occasionally at least ;) )

to answer your original question succinctly: 

 Can anyone tell me what packages you know of that will break your
 system if you choose to put ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in your make.conf
 file? 

no, no one can tell until they are tested, and then they will be marked
stable.  

If I may take a moment to make a few (friendly and respectful!)
criticisms of your post, that may have given people the wrong
impression, I think there are probably two things that may have done
so:  firstly, your subject line was 'Can anyone help me?'  Sure, you're
asking for help, but a more relevant subject line would have nicely
synopsized your post.  Most people that start a thread here _are_
looking for help, after all.  Secondly, I think this: 

I do know that the only way to fix the problem was to restore from
backup, or to try re-installing again.  I just want to know which
packages are so unstable that I should mask them.  

definitely made my blood boil a little.  It sounds as if, with your gawk case
here, a careful analysis of the log files could have perhaps provided
you with a few fundamentals from /usr/lib that were missing and only
needed to be copied over to / before /usr or /usr/lib was mounted from
it's seperate filesystem.  (I am just guessing that's how Neil solved
this particular problem, although I wouldn't know.)  Saying that the
only way to fix a particular problem is by replacing the software with
a working version is very rarely the case.  

I hope you can understand how that could give us a little bit of a bad
first impression here on the lists, because it consists of a lot of
serious gentooers that all seem to share a dislike of reinstalls and
backup restorations rather than responding to particular error messages
and resolving their problems that way.  Perhaps it's just the gentoo
way - reinstalling seems to be very popular in ubuntu.  

Anyhow, my advice to you is to do what many, including myself do - save
yourself the headache of running ~amd64, and only use package.keywords
to unmask packages as necessary.  

Good luck, and may you withhold judgment of me as I have of you, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread maxim wexler
 
 You can probably get rid of python-2.3 safely, but
 first find out what 
 is using it:
 
 equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
 
 If nothing, then unmerge it, but first you might
 want to make a backup 
 (just in case):

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
[ Searching for packages depending on
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/equery, line 1732, in ?
cmd.perform(local_opts)
  File /usr/bin/equery, line 1117, in perform
deps = pkg.get_runtime_deps() +
pkg.get_compiletime_deps() + pkg.get_postmerge_deps()
AttributeError: Package instance has no attribute
'get_postmerge_deps'

Not exactly nothing. Is this what you mean?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Probably off-topic] How do I find out what is consuming the bandwidth?

2008-03-02 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:56:20 +0200
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's one other way that I just remembered (for future reference).
 You don't *have* to use a linux machine as a gateway if you have a
 decent managed switch - set it to route all traffic on all ports out
 through the port that a monitoring machine is connected to. In other
 words, that one part acts like a hub. Now that the monitoring machine
 can see every bit on the entire Ethernet, it can count 'em :-)
 
 However, these switches cost a fortune and I very much doubt that the 
 el-cheapo ADSL routers on the market have this feature. Both of mine 
 certainly don't.

 You could also do this with a non-switching hub, if you can find one.
They would be a whole lot cheaper, I'd imagine, than a managed switch,
even used on ebay.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Chris Walters

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Sunday 02 March 2008, Dan Farrell wrote:


doesn't sound like a broken package to me.  perhaps something else
got borked?


Or maybe some unusual compiler settings?

OP, please post your /etc/make.conf


I don't think it is the compiler settings - they are fairly standard -O3 
-march=athlon64 -pipe  That's it.  I've never had any problems with -O3, but 
it could still be a part of the problem, since it substantially changes the 
code at compile time.


The problem has to do the the Service Dependencies not being able to be 
scanned, and I am advised to run /sbin/depscan.sh


When I run that, I just get the same error - which also involves a missing 
/bin/mktemp file.  It seems that that package blocks that latest version of 
coreutils...


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Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!

2008-03-02 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:02:40 +0100
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Essentially, the
  antiailiasing seems to alter the consistency of fonts in an
  irregular manner causing them to blur (differently) across the
  screen, as if the monitor resolution is out of sync.
 

hmm, that reminds me of the appearance of the screen when you're
running at a resolution that isn't native for the device.  For example,
if you run a 1280x1024 at widescreen, each 6th pixel or something is
stretched to consist of 2 physical pixels to widen the screen out to
fill the entire display.  I hope that explination makes sense -
clearly there are other, better ways to use widescreen in a case like
this.  

i would make sure you're running in the screen's native resolution if
it's an LCD, else make sure you're running at a resolution that fits
the aspect ratio of your screen.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
  You can probably get rid of python-2.3 safely, but
  first find out what
  is using it:
 
  equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
 
  If nothing, then unmerge it, but first you might
  want to make a backup
  (just in case):

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends
 =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
 [ Searching for packages depending on
 =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/equery, line 1732, in ?
 cmd.perform(local_opts)
   File /usr/bin/equery, line 1117, in perform
 deps = pkg.get_runtime_deps() +
 pkg.get_compiletime_deps() + pkg.get_postmerge_deps()
 AttributeError: Package instance has no attribute
 'get_postmerge_deps'

 Not exactly nothing. Is this what you mean?

No, that's an error. I've seen it somewhere before, but can't recall 
where. Can't recall what to do about it either.

If no-one else offers an opinion, I'd start by checking that all your 
portage tools still work properly: emerge, revdep-rebuild, the various 
tools in gentoolkit and portage-utils


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

2008-03-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 2. März 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
  well, I buyed hardware over 40 times on ebay - and I
  was always a very
  satisfied costumer. From mainboards, cpus to
  tapedrives and libs, I always
  got the right stuff.

 Me too. This has been my first experience of outright
 fraud. I've been shipped the wrong stuff or broken
 stuff but the seller always made good in the end.

once I bought a cheap soundcard. I got it, everything was fine.

Ca one year later I got a letter from ebay - they would be investigating the 
seller because of fraud and if there had been any trouble with that person.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

2008-03-02 Thread Dale

Daniel da Veiga wrote:


Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
would work).

Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.

Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
  


There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how.  
If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way.  I read you can put Knoppix 
on a hard drive too.


I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old 
rig.  I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it 
across the floor.  LOL


I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy?  I think the floppy works.  
I'll check on that in a little bit.  May save me from dragging that 
thing in the house.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!

2008-03-02 Thread Mick
On Sunday 02 March 2008, Dan Farrell wrote:
 On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:02:40 +0100

 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Essentially, the
 
   antiailiasing seems to alter the consistency of fonts in an
   irregular manner causing them to blur (differently) across the
   screen, as if the monitor resolution is out of sync.

 hmm, that reminds me of the appearance of the screen when you're
 running at a resolution that isn't native for the device.  For example,
 if you run a 1280x1024 at widescreen, each 6th pixel or something is
 stretched to consist of 2 physical pixels to widen the screen out to
 fill the entire display.  I hope that explination makes sense -
 clearly there are other, better ways to use widescreen in a case like
 this.

 i would make sure you're running in the screen's native resolution if
 it's an LCD, else make sure you're running at a resolution that fits
 the aspect ratio of your screen.

Yep, that's pretty much what I think it is.  Stretches and blurs along the 
width of the screen, every few pixels.  I thought I *was* using the native 
resolution.  Of course DDC may not be picking up the right dimensions in the 
first place.  This is not a wide screen, just a 1280x1024 vanilla resolution.  
The monitor is a NEC MultiSync LCD 1860NX.

Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1024
default connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1280x1024  60.0* 
   1024x768   60.0  
   800x60060.0  
   640x48060.0  
   832x62460.0

This is what the Internet tells me (because the manual is rubbish):

Display Type:  IPS TFT 46 cm (18.1 inch)
Active Display Area:   360 x 290 mm
Pixel Pitch:   0.281 mm
Viewing Angle: 160° horizontal/160° vertical (at contrast 
ratio 10:1)
Brightness:200 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio:350:1
Response Time: 30 ms (white to black 15 ms, black to white 15 
ms)
Number of Colours: 16.77 million
Optimum Resolution:1280 x 1024 at 60 Hz (1.3 mega pixel)
Other Resolutions: 1024 x 768; 832 x 624; 800 x 600; 640 x 400; 
640 x 480; 720 x 400
Features/Adjust Functions: NTAA (Non-Touch-Auto-Adjustment); Auto adjust; 
Contrast; Brightness;
   Fine adjust (analog); OmniColor™: sRGB and 6 
axis colour control;
   Colour temperature control; Monitor info; 
Language Select;
   Intelligent Power Management (VESA/EPA/NUTEK 
compliant);
   On-Screen Manager (OSM) lock out
User Controls: On/Off; OSM menu; Interfaces
Plug  Play; Asset Management: VESA DDC2B; DDC2Bi; DDC/CI and EDID standard
Horizontal Frequency:  31–82 kHz
Vertical Frequency:55–85 Hz
Dot Clock Rate:135 MHz

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 02 March 2008, Dan Farrell wrote:
  doesn't sound like a broken package to me.  perhaps something else
  got borked?
 
  Or maybe some unusual compiler settings?
 
  OP, please post your /etc/make.conf

 I don't think it is the compiler settings - they are fairly standard
 -O3 -march=athlon64 -pipe  That's it.  I've never had any problems
 with -O3, but it could still be a part of the problem, since it
 substantially changes the code at compile time.

I don't -O3 can ever be considered standard. Also you say you don't 
think that's it, then admit -O3 changes the code substantially. I'm 
having horrible visions that you are taking a shotgun approach to 
fault-finding

 The problem has to do the the Service Dependencies not being able to
 be scanned, and I am advised to run /sbin/depscan.sh

 When I run that, I just get the same error - which also involves a
 missing /bin/mktemp file.  It seems that that package blocks that
 latest version of coreutils...

What you wrote doesn't make sense. depscan.sh is installed by baselayout 
and mktemp is installed by coreutils. You have depscan.sh Which package 
is blocking which? You don't have to guess which one, portage will tell 
you when an emerge fails.

You really should supply more information so that we can help you. You 
have now posted 4 times on this thread, and have not supplied any 
relevant info at all apart from your arch is ~amd64 and you have a 
problem. So let's do this the right way which involves you supplying 
the following:

- when your system broke twice, what exactly does this mean? What no 
longer works, and how does the system's behaviour differ from what you 
expect?
- relevant logs
- command(s) run before the problem manifests
- console output that demonstrates a problem


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:03:44 -0500, Chris Walters wrote:

 I find these paragraphs to be rude and insulting.  I am not an idiot -
 I know exactly what testing means, and what unstable means.

Sorry if you feel that way, but many people confuse the various meanings
of unstable and stable in the context of software branches.


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RE: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild command doesn't fix broken libs it finds

2008-03-02 Thread Bob Young


 -Original Message-
 From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:18 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild command doesn't fix broken libs 
 it finds

 Bob Young wrote:


 How do I determine if this is a case of orphaned file, deep dependency,
 binary package or specially evaluated library and, if it is one of
those,
 how do I determine which one, and then how do I fix this...?

 Thanks for listening,
 Bob Young
 San Jose, CA

   

This may help:  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728  I'm not 
sure what changed but mine does not do this any more.  I'm using 
app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 at the moment.

Dale

:-)  :-) 


Thanks Dale,

After a little thought and some investigation I'd already come up with the
symlink solution on my own. However I do find it a little disturbing that
this is exactly the same, as a bug that has a creation date of: 2006-03-10,
nearly two years ago. I also know that I didn't have this problem until a
recent new stable version of gcc was merged. That means somebody is
re-introducing bugs that have already been fixed. Making such easily
avoidable mistakes does not bode well...

Thanks Again,
Bob Young
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Chris Walters

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Alan McKinnon wrote:
| On Sunday 02 March 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
| Alan McKinnon wrote:
| I don't -O3 can ever be considered standard. Also you say you don't
| think that's it, then admit -O3 changes the code substantially. I'm
| having horrible visions that you are taking a shotgun approach to
| fault-finding

Say again?  How am I taking a shotgun approach to fault-finding?

| The problem has to do the the Service Dependencies not being able to
| be scanned, and I am advised to run /sbin/depscan.sh
|
| When I run that, I just get the same error - which also involves a
| missing /bin/mktemp file.  It seems that that package blocks that
| latest version of coreutils...
|
| What you wrote doesn't make sense. depscan.sh is installed by baselayout
| and mktemp is installed by coreutils. You have depscan.sh Which package
| is blocking which? You don't have to guess which one, portage will tell
| you when an emerge fails.

Well, apparently either the latest ~amd64 keyword masked version of coreutils
does not install /bin/mktemp, or makes changes so that /sbin/depscan.sh cannot
find it, because /bin/mktemp missing is a part of the error message, I
receive.  When I mask the latest version of coreutils, and merge the older one
and the mktemp ebuild, the problem disappears (yes, I was able to get emerge to
work - finally).

| You really should supply more information so that we can help you. You
| have now posted 4 times on this thread, and have not supplied any
| relevant info at all apart from your arch is ~amd64 and you have a
| problem. So let's do this the right way which involves you supplying
| the following:
|
| - when your system broke twice, what exactly does this mean? What no
| longer works, and how does the system's behaviour differ from what you
| expect?
| - relevant logs
| - command(s) run before the problem manifests
| - console output that demonstrates a problem

I asked for specific and general information in my original message to this
list.  That was what packages had others, using the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64,
had trouble with.  If you have no answer to that question, then you should just
say so, or not have bothered to reply.  I am not liking the attitude on this
list one bit.  I didn't ask you, or anyone else to solve a specific problem for
me, just a simple general question.  If I wanted specific help, I would have
provided all that you are claiming I should provide.

Chris
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:20:08 -0500, Chris Walters wrote:

 Well, apparently either the latest ~amd64 keyword masked version of
 coreutils does not install /bin/mktemp, or makes changes so
 that /sbin/depscan.sh cannot find it, because /bin/mktemp missing is
 a part of the error message, I receive.

% eix -c -e coreutils
[I] sys-apps/coreutils ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/08): Standard GNU file utilities

% qlist coreutils | grep mktemp
/usr/share/man/man1/mktemp.1.bz2
/bin/mktemp
/usr/bin/mktemp

It's certainly there on this box, and the other ~amd64 and ~x86 boxes I
have.


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[gentoo-user] eselect fouled

2008-03-02 Thread David Corbin
I have an ebuild saying that it cannot find -lGL.  Everyone tells me use 
eselect.  Well, I have, and although it gives me no errors, I still have 
no /usr/lib/libGL.so


[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/dcorbin]# eselect opengl set xorg-x11
Switching to xorg-x11 OpenGL interface... done
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/dcorbin]# ls -l /usr/lib/libGL
libGL.la  libGLU.so.1   libGLw.so 
libGLw.so.1.0.0
libGLU.la libGLU.so.1.3 libGLw.so.1
libGLU.so libGLU.so.1.3.060502  libGLw.so.1.0

Suggestions for how to fix this please.
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[gentoo-user] 403 error on apache2

2008-03-02 Thread Mick
The new apache configuration style has got me all mixed up.  I am running 
apache-2.2.8 and I am also trying to install drupal-5.6 (with vhosts).  
Pointing the browser to localhost works fine, I get the page that says IT 
WORKS!, but not the Apache logo and picture of a feather as it used to be 
the case.  Does this mean that my new apache installation is not properly 
configured?

Pointing to mywebdomain.co.uk/drupal fails with error 403: 
===
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /drupal/install.php on this server.
Apache Server at mywebdomain.co.uk Port 80
===

The only way I have found to get the pages accessible from a browser is to add 
this to /etc/apache2/modules.d/00_default_settings.conf file:

Directory /var/www/mywebdomain.co.uk/htdocs
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride All
Order deny,allow
Allow from all
/Directory


However, I am not sure that this the correct way to allow access to a vhost.  
Where should I define that this vhost (mywebdomain.co.uk) should be 
accessible from the Internet?

This is my /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf file, just in case I am 
missing something essential:

IfDefine DEFAULT_VHOST

#Listen 12.34.56.78:80
Listen 80

# Use name-based virtual hosting.
NameVirtualHost *:80

VirtualHost *:80
ServerName localhost
Include /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/default_vhost.include

IfModule mpm_peruser_module
ServerEnvironment apache apache
/IfModule
/VirtualHost

VirtualHost *:80
ServerName mywebdomain.co.uk
ServerAlias  mywebdomain.co.uk *.mywebdomain.co.uk
DocumentRoot /var/www/mywebdomain.co.uk/htdocs
/VirtualHost

/IfDefine


Can you please advise if I need to change anything in the default Gentoo 
apache configuration to set it up to work with vhosts and drupal?
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Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!

2008-03-02 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:10:58 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please find xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log attached.  I am using the xorg
 radeon driver.  The font size is just right, would not like to
 increase it.
 

A few thoughts based on your xorg.conf.  

1) you set 
HorizSync  64 #31 - 80 #digital
VertRefresh   60 #55 - 85 #digital

you shouldn't need either.  You might want to remove them and try
without.  


2) your ATI device has quite a lot of settings.  If you don't need them
all, you might want to remove or comment out what you can.  They
might affect the output in unexpected ways, although I'm no ati
expert.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] eselect fouled

2008-03-02 Thread darren kirby
quoth the David Corbin:
 I have an ebuild saying that it cannot find -lGL.  Everyone tells me use
 eselect.  Well, I have, and although it gives me no errors, I still have
 no /usr/lib/libGL.so


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/dcorbin]# eselect opengl set xorg-x11
 Switching to xorg-x11 OpenGL interface... done
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/dcorbin]# ls -l /usr/lib/libGL
 libGL.la  libGLU.so.1   libGLw.so
 libGLw.so.1.0.0
 libGLU.la libGLU.so.1.3 libGLw.so.1
 libGLU.so libGLU.so.1.3.060502  libGLw.so.1.0

 Suggestions for how to fix this please.
 --
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Just a guess: ensure '/usr/lib/libGL' is in /etc/ld.so.conf and then 
run 'ldconfig'...

I suggest this because I use nVidia GL, and I 
have '/usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib' listed in my ld.so.conf. Though, I don't 
recall having to add it manually.

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] eselect fouled

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, David Corbin wrote:
 I have an ebuild saying that it cannot find -lGL.  Everyone tells me
 use eselect.  Well, I have, and although it gives me no errors, I
 still have no /usr/lib/libGL.so


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/dcorbin]# eselect opengl set xorg-x11
 Switching to xorg-x11 OpenGL interface... done
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/dcorbin]# ls -l /usr/lib/libGL
 libGL.la  libGLU.so.1   libGLw.so
 libGLw.so.1.0.0
 libGLU.la libGLU.so.1.3 libGLw.so.1
 libGLU.so libGLU.so.1.3.060502  libGLw.so.1.0

 Suggestions for how to fix this please.

/usr/lib/libGL.so is a symlink to /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so 
on my machine, and that comes from media-libs/mesa. eselect updates 
that symlink.

Do you have mesa correctly installed and does that target actually 
exist?



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Re: [gentoo-user] eselect fouled

2008-03-02 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 2 March 2008, darren kirby wrote:

 I suggest this because I use nVidia GL, and I
 have '/usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib' listed in my ld.so.conf. Though, I
 don't recall having to add it manually.

I think either env-update or eselect opengl set nvidia does that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can anyone tell me?

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:

snip

 | What you wrote doesn't make sense. depscan.sh is installed by
 | baselayout and mktemp is installed by coreutils. You have
 | depscan.sh Which package is blocking which? You don't have to guess
 | which one, portage will tell you when an emerge fails.

 Well, apparently either the latest ~amd64 keyword masked version of
 coreutils does not install /bin/mktemp, or makes changes so that
 /sbin/depscan.sh cannot find it, because /bin/mktemp missing is a
 part of the error message, I receive.  When I mask the latest version
 of coreutils, and merge the older one and the mktemp ebuild, the
 problem disappears (yes, I was able to get emerge to work - finally).

Ah. That's useful info. Are you saying that current coreutils does not 
supply mktemp (it should), so you have to use an older coreutils and a 
discrete mktemp ebuild?

What's in the build log for the non-working coreutils regarding mktemp?


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Re: [gentoo-user] eselect fouled

2008-03-02 Thread David Corbin
On Sunday 02 March 2008 03:03:15 pm Alan McKinnon wrote:

 /usr/lib/libGL.so is a symlink to /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so
 on my machine, and that comes from media-libs/mesa. eselect updates
 that symlink.

 Do you have mesa correctly installed and does that target actually
 exist?

Apparently not.  media-libs/mesa wass emerged, but I did not have the libGL.so 
you mentioned.  Re-emerging mesa and then re-eselecting seems to have fixed 
things.

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild command doesn't fix broken libs it finds

2008-03-02 Thread Dale

Bob Young wrote:
  

-Original Message-
From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:18 AM

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild command doesn't fix broken libs 
it finds



  

Bob Young wrote:




  

How do I determine if this is a case of orphaned file, deep dependency,
binary package or specially evaluated library and, if it is one of
  

those,


how do I determine which one, and then how do I fix this...?

Thanks for listening,
Bob Young
San Jose, CA

  
   

This may help:  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728  I'm not 
sure what changed but mine does not do this any more.  I'm using 
app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 at the moment.


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Thanks Dale,

After a little thought and some investigation I'd already come up with the
symlink solution on my own. However I do find it a little disturbing that
this is exactly the same, as a bug that has a creation date of: 2006-03-10,
nearly two years ago. I also know that I didn't have this problem until a
recent new stable version of gcc was merged. That means somebody is
re-introducing bugs that have already been fixed. Making such easily
avoidable mistakes does not bode well...

Thanks Again,
Bob Young
San Jose, CA.



  


It has been around for a while but I don't think it actually breaks 
anything.  I have never had a problem with my system and it did that for 
ages. 

My workaround has always been to just oneshot everything but gcc and 
then rerun revdep-rebuild -i -p again to make sure the other problems 
were fixed.  Of course, it would be good if it worked to begin with.  
Then again, I would rather a bug that breaks something be fixed first 
too.  o_O


I have gcc-4.1.2 installed here and I do not get that error.  It is 
masked but no problems for me so far.  Could it be that specific version 
of gcc you have maybe?  Maybe someone else can chime in on what version 
they have and if they get that error or not.


Glad to have helped.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] best circuit drawing software

2008-03-02 Thread maxim wexler
 The best format for line drawings is a vector format
 like svg.
 With a vector format the image can be scaled to any
 size and still
 stay sharp.

Can it be viewed by someone who only has Explorer?

 
 A bitmap with lossless compression like png is
 tolerable.
 
 Please don't use jpeg.  It uses lossy compression
 that is designed for
 photos.  They end up fuzzy.
 
Been working with xcircuit. It saves in PS but can be
made into a jpeg which looked just as sharp as the
original.

I found this command online:

gs -dBATCH -sOutputFile=4804SR-output.jpg
-sDEVICE=jpeg 4804SR-output.ps

Which I changed to this:

gs -dBATCH -sOutputFile=4804SR-output.png
-sDEVICE=jpeg 4804SR-output.ps

The first file it created ends in .jpg, the second in
.png. But they're both the same size and look exactly
the same in the browser. When I gave it -sDEVICE=png
it replied Unknown device: png. So maybe it just
makes jpegs but will call them whatever...


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Re: [gentoo-user] eselect fouled

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, David Corbin wrote:
 On Sunday 02 March 2008 03:03:15 pm Alan McKinnon wrote:
  /usr/lib/libGL.so is a symlink to
  /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so on my machine, and that comes
  from media-libs/mesa. eselect updates that symlink.
 
  Do you have mesa correctly installed and does that target actually
  exist?

 Apparently not.  media-libs/mesa wass emerged, but I did not have the
 libGL.so you mentioned.  Re-emerging mesa and then re-eselecting
 seems to have fixed things.

Cool. I take it your video is now OK and you don't need the ati or 
nvidia implementations?



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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 02 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:

 Re-emerged gentoolkit.

 Now I get:

snip long list

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

 Again, not nothing. I can't unmerge all this stuff
 can I? Should I still run python-updater etc?

No, you don;t need to unmerge all of it - most of those are virtuals or 
any version of python  x

Run python-updater. That will remerge everything linked to 2.3 to 2.4

If all goes well then you can unmerge python-2.3.* and run 
revdep-rebuild as a last safety check. Be warned, python-updater iwll 
remerge a lot of stuff - it always does


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Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!

2008-03-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 2. März 2008, Mick wrote:


oh god. I hate this automatically generated xorg.confs. They are filled with 
rubbish. *sigh*

hm, could you try without this?
DisplaySize 360 290 #digital, oh wait, you said that doesn't change 
anything. Hm.

You can set your DPI with the nvidia driver. But I am not convinced that it is 
X, the drivers or the monitors fault. The font antialising in linux is just 
bad ;)

hm, oh, and try whatever Dan told you ;) Maybe enabling backingstore helps 
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread maxim wexler

--- Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 02 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
   You can probably get rid of python-2.3 safely,
 but
   first find out what
   is using it:
  
   equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
  
   If nothing, then unmerge it, but first you might
   want to make a backup
   (just in case):
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends
  =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
  [ Searching for packages depending on
  =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/equery, line 1732, in ?
  cmd.perform(local_opts)
File /usr/bin/equery, line 1117, in perform
  deps = pkg.get_runtime_deps() +
  pkg.get_compiletime_deps() +
 pkg.get_postmerge_deps()
  AttributeError: Package instance has no attribute
  'get_postmerge_deps'
 
  Not exactly nothing. Is this what you mean?
 
 No, that's an error. I've seen it somewhere before,
 but can't recall 
 where. Can't recall what to do about it either.
 
 If no-one else offers an opinion, I'd start by
 checking that all your 
 portage tools still work properly: emerge,
 revdep-rebuild, the various 
 tools in gentoolkit and portage-utils

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3443611.html?sid=1e11270e20684fdc0eea90b188f26344

Re-emerged gentoolkit.

Now I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
[ Searching for packages depending on
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
app-office/dia-0.95.1 (python?
=dev-lang/python-1.5.2)
app-pda/libopensync-0.22 (python?
=dev-lang/python-2.2)
app-portage/esearch-0.7.1 (=dev-lang/python-2.2)
app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1
(=dev-lang/python-2.0)
dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 (virtual/python)
dev-java/java-config-2.0.33-r1 (dev-lang/python)
   (virtual/python)
dev-lang/swig-1.3.31 (python? virtual/python)
dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.30-r1 (python? dev-lang/python)
dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.22 (python? dev-lang/python)
dev-python/cddb-py-1.4 (virtual/python)
dev-python/id3-py-1.2 (virtual/python)
dev-python/numeric-24.2-r6 (virtual/python)
   (=dev-lang/python-2.3)
dev-python/pycairo-1.4.0 (virtual/python)
 (=dev-lang/python-2.3)
dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 (virtual/python)
dev-python/pygtk-2.12.0 (=dev-lang/python-2.3.5)
dev-python/pyid3lib-0.5.1-r1 (virtual/python)
dev-python/pyogg-1.3-r1 (dev-lang/python)
(virtual/python)
dev-python/pyopengl-2.0.0.44 (virtual/python)
dev-python/pysqlite-2.3.5 (virtual/python)
  (=dev-lang/python-2.3)
dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 (dev-lang/python)
dev-python/pyvorbis-1.4-r1 (dev-lang/python)
   (virtual/python)
dev-python/wxpython-2.6.4.0 (=dev-lang/python-2.1)
dev-util/scons-0.96.1 (virtual/python)
  (=dev-lang/python-2.0)
gnome-base/libglade-2.6.2 (=dev-lang/python-2.0-r7)
kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.7 (dev-lang/python)
media-libs/lcms-1.17 (python? =dev-lang/python-1.5.2)
media-libs/mutagen-1.12 (virtual/python)
media-sound/dir2ogg-0.11 (virtual/python)
media-sound/jack-3.1.1 (virtual/python)
   (=virtual/python-1.5.2)
sys-apps/file-4.21-r1 (virtual/python)
sys-libs/cracklib-2.8.10 (python? dev-lang/python)
sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r9 (python?
=virtual/python-2.2.1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $   

Again, not nothing. I can't unmerge all this stuff
can I? Should I still run python-updater etc?

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Re: [gentoo-user] best circuit drawing software

2008-03-02 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 01:20:27PM -0800, Penguin Lover maxim wexler squawked:
 Been working with xcircuit. It saves in PS but can be
 made into a jpeg which looked just as sharp as the
 original.
 
 I found this command online:
 
 gs -dBATCH -sOutputFile=4804SR-output.jpg
 -sDEVICE=jpeg 4804SR-output.ps
 
 Which I changed to this:
 
 gs -dBATCH -sOutputFile=4804SR-output.png
 -sDEVICE=jpeg 4804SR-output.ps
 
 The first file it created ends in .jpg, the second in
 .png. But they're both the same size and look exactly
 the same in the browser. When I gave it -sDEVICE=png
 it replied Unknown device: png. So maybe it just
 makes jpegs but will call them whatever...

Yes, it does just that: creates a jpg file with a .png extension.

To make png files, you can try imagemagick (make sure to install it
with the gs flag)

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 01:34:30PM -0800, Penguin Lover maxim wexler squawked:
 Re-emerged gentoolkit.
 
 Now I get:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends
 =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
 [ Searching for packages depending on
 =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
 app-office/dia-0.95.1 (python?
snip
 sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r9 (python?
 =virtual/python-2.2.1)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $   
 
 Again, not nothing. I can't unmerge all this stuff
 can I? Should I still run python-updater etc?

python-updater should've been run after you installed a new version of
python (I'm pretty sure it is in the ebuild).

equery depends is not smart enough to know that there is another
python on your system that satisfies the dependencies. What you should
look for in the output of equery depends is whether any of the
dependencies (as listed in the paranthesis after the package name) is
a hard dependency on a particular version of python. 

Basically, look for something that says =virtual/python-2.3 or 
=virtual/python-2.3 or something like that. 

My cursory glance at the output you send suggests that nothing
explicitly depends on that particular version of python. So you
*should* be able to unmerge the old one. If something does break...
then file a bug at b.g.o. 

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[gentoo-user] Re: best circuit drawing software

2008-03-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-02, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The best format for line drawings is a vector format
 like svg.
 With a vector format the image can be scaled to any
 size and still
 stay sharp.

 Can it be viewed by someone who only has Explorer?

 
 A bitmap with lossless compression like png is
 tolerable.
 
 Please don't use jpeg.  It uses lossy compression
 that is designed for
 photos.  They end up fuzzy.
 
 Been working with xcircuit. It saves in PS but can be
 made into a jpeg which looked just as sharp as the
 original.

 I found this command online:

 gs -dBATCH -sOutputFile=4804SR-output.jpg -sDEVICE=jpeg 4804SR-output.ps

 Which I changed to this:

 gs -dBATCH -sOutputFile=4804SR-output.png -sDEVICE=jpeg 4804SR-output.ps

 The first file it created ends in .jpg, the second in
 .png. But they're both the same size and look exactly
 the same in the browser.

Of course they're the same. All you did was change the filename
name.  The second command is still telling gs to create a jpeg
file.

 When I gave it -sDEVICE=png it replied Unknown device: png.
 So maybe it just makes jpegs but will call them whatever...

gs doesn't care what you call files -- very few unix programs
do.

The file type is determined by the -sDEVICE= option.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread maxim wexler
 python. So you
 *should* be able to unmerge the old one. If
 something does break...
 then file a bug at b.g.o. 

It want's to grab both of them. How do I move 2.4.4.r6
to the protected column? Or should I? Is this a good
place to use the  operator?

localhost heathen # emerge -pC python

 These are the packages that would be unmerged:


!!! 'dev-lang/python' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.


 dev-lang/python
selected: 2.3.5-r3 2.4.4-r6
   protected: none
 omitted: none

 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be
removed.

And does this mean it won't remerge anything but MAY
emerge something? If so, does that mean v2.4? I've
already got that:

localhost heathen # python-updater -p
 * Starting Python Updater from 2.3 to 2.4 :
 * Searching for packages with files in
/usr/lib/python2.3 /usr/lib32/python2.3
/usr/lib64/python2.3 ..
 * No packages needs to be remerged.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

maxim wexler schrieb:

python. So you
*should* be able to unmerge the old one. If
something does break...
then file a bug at b.g.o. 


It want's to grab both of them. How do I move 2.4.4.r6
to the protected column? Or should I? Is this a good
place to use the  operator?



try emerge -pC =python-2.3.5-r3
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ghosting a Ext3 partition

2008-03-02 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Rasmus Andersen wrote:



FreeBSD's softupdates should make filesystem state always consistent,
metadatawise. Or so I think I remember, its been a while. That might
aleviate some of the problems noted on the dump page I referenced.

  

Freebsd's dump -L (live option) uses ufs2 snapshot capability to ensure 
consistency, so its dump is reasonably smart. (FWIW / on Freebsd usually 
does not have softupdates specified, so usually won't help here). So 
yeah, it looks like some care is needed with plain old 'dump' on Linux - 
which is a bit of a pest!

I use rdiff-backup for my backups but then again I have low requirements
wrt. consistency outside file-level. I have considered LVM snapshots
since I use LVM already but havent bothered so far.


  
Right - what you intend the backup to protect against drives all this 
sort of stuff.




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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 01:46:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 emerge -avC =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3

 Unmerging python will leave you with an unusuable portage and you'll 
 need a backup copy or other voodoo to get it going again. What you 
 actually want is to remove just the SLOT you are no longer using

Even so, I would quickpkg it first, just in case you accidentally remove
too much.


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 03 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
  python. So you
  *should* be able to unmerge the old one. If
  something does break...
  then file a bug at b.g.o.

 It want's to grab both of them. How do I move 2.4.4.r6
 to the protected column? Or should I? Is this a good
 place to use the  operator?

 localhost heathen # emerge -pC python


emerge -avC =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3


Unmerging python will leave you with an unusuable portage and you'll 
need a backup copy or other voodoo to get it going again. What you 
actually want is to remove just the SLOT you are no longer using


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread maxim wexler
 
 quickpkg =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
 
done

 then run python-updater

localhost heathen # python-updater
 * Can't determine any previous Python version(s).

 
 Now do 
 emerge -avuND world 
...
[blocks B ] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 (is blocking
app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2)
...
So,

localhost heathen # emerge -pvC qca

 These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 app-crypt/qca
selected: 2.0.0-r2
   protected: none
 omitted: none

 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be
removed.

Seems like I've already got the package that's
supposedly blocked.

localhost heathen # emerge -vC app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3

--- Couldn't find 'app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3' to unmerge.

 No packages selected for removal by unmerge


So I unmerged then remerged the one I already got and
did emerge -auvND world.

Same thing. The link to the gentoo manual says I can
just ignore that particular package but it doesn't say
how.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

  Now do
emerge -avuND world 

...
[blocks B ] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 (is blocking
app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2)
...
So,

localhost heathen # emerge -pvC qca


These are the packages that would be unmerged:


 app-crypt/qca
selected: 2.0.0-r2
   protected: none
 omitted: none


'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be

removed.

Seems like I've already got the package that's
supposedly blocked.

localhost heathen # emerge -vC app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3

--- Couldn't find 'app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3' to unmerge.


No packages selected for removal by unmerge



So I unmerged then remerged the one I already got and
did emerge -auvND world.

Same thing. The link to the gentoo manual says I can
just ignore that particular package but it doesn't say
how.


Are you using kde-4.0.x or why do you have app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2 
unmasked? You can add =app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 ~whateverarchyouhave to 
/etc/portage.keyords and try again emerge -avuND world. Maybe you have 
to do emerge -av --oneshot =app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 before!

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-02 Thread maxim wexler

 Are you using kde-4.0.x or why do you have

kde-3.5.7. Tried to update to kde-4.0.x near the end
of January. This was after almost two years of not
updating anything. This led to a emerge -uD world
which took about a week over my string-and-can modem.
Many, many failure to build errors kept me returning
to the list for advice. See ,for instance, emerge -uD
world: another obstacle in the archive. It was like
crawling through the desert pursuing a mirage. I was
unmerging here remerging there. Maybe that's when
qca-2.0.0-r2 slipped into my system. I never
completely understood why kde-4 couldn't be emerged. I
ran update-eix and eix-sync. Even now when I do emerge
-u kde it just points to 3.5.8.

 app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2 
 unmasked? You can add =app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3
 ~whateverarchyouhave to 
 /etc/portage.keyords and try again emerge -avuND
 world. 

Ok, that worked. Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Set a property on a file and have it remove when the file is modified?

2008-03-02 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:49:34 +0100
Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Matthias Guede skrev:
  2008/3/1, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Is it possible to set a property on a file and have it remove
   automatically when the file is modified?
 
   Suppose that we have a style checker that checks a lot of source
  code files. Once it examined a file and found it to be clean, it
  should set a property on the file (style-clean). Whenever the
  style checker is executed it skips files with this property.
  Whenever the file is modified, the filesystem removes the property.
 
   Is this possible? Which filesystems does it work on?
  
 
  One solution would be using 'make'.  With rules like the following
  only modified files will
  be proceeded:
 
  timestamp: myFile
doSomthingWidth myFile
touch timestamp

 
 We have thought about that, but we would like to avoid having a
 parallel file hierarchy of timestamp files for our source tree.
 Therefore something like the archive attribute (suggested by Etanoi
 Shrdlu) would be better.


Actually, if there are no other concerns, you'd have to keep only one
file for reference. Then you could compare the modification times of all
other files with this reference file.

#!/bin/bash
# initial/full scan

touch timestamp.chk
find hierarchy | while read some_file
do
[[ stylecheck($some_file) -eq 0 ]] || touch $some.file
done

#EOF


After this every time you run stylecheck(), you'd have to check only
the files having newer time stamp than the one of timestamp.chk.

#!/bin/bash
# incremental scan

find hierarchy -newer timestamp.chk  modified.list
touch timestamp.chk

while read some_file
do
[[ stylecheck($some_file) -eq 0 ]] || touch $some.file
done  modified.list
unlink modified.list

#EOF



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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache 2 + portage

2008-03-02 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:39:39 +0100
dexters84 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 I'm a little confused as long as new Apache use flags are concerned. 
 With old Apache versions ( pre 2.2.6) all valid flags shown in
 *emerge -pv Apache*
 could have been set in /etc/portage/package.use in following format
 *www-servers/apache flag flag -foo -bar flag*
 and life was great :)
 
 Unfortunately with the new version the concept changed. Some flags 
 contain *% *some contain* ** and some both (not sure what it is for)
 - I only know that flags enclosed like this *(flag)  *are the one I
 have selected before.
 

man -P 'col -b' emerge | grep -A11   --verbose


 My main problem is that emerge apache command is not affected by flag 
 settings in /etc/portage/package.use in any way.
 How do I properly set new apache flags ?
 Where do I define APACHE2_MODULES ?
 Where do I define APACHE2_MPMS ?
 
 regards
 dexter


I don't believe you could get a proper answer w/o sending the exact
output of the command(s) you're issuing and the relevant contents of the
configuration file(s) in question.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-02 Thread mvidela
Por las nuevas políticas de calidad ISO 9001 que la empresa está implementando, 
todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico deben ser realizadas al correo 
electrónico [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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[gentoo-user] preprocess_ebuild_env error

2008-03-02 Thread Guanqun Lu
Hi list,

When I am trying to unmerge xorg-server, it complains as such:

/var/tmp/binpkgs/x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2/temp/environment: line 4035: 
syntax error near unexpected token `('
/var/tmp/binpkgs/x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2/temp/environment: line 4035: `
done (eval ${command})'
 * 
 * ERROR: x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line 1641:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  preprocess_ebuild_env || \
 *  die error processing environment
 *  The die message:
 *   error processing environment
 * 
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call 
stack if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at 
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at 
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2/temp/environment'.
 * 

So, any idea?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-02 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 04:04 -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Por las nuevas políticas de calidad ISO 9001 que la empresa está
 implementando, todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico deben
 ser realizadas al correo electrónico [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Muchas gracias y disculpe las molestías.
 
 Automáticamente este email será reenvio a [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is this spam or what?  I seem to be getting the same message over and
over to this list...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-02 Thread Dale

Iain Buchanan wrote:

On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 04:04 -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Por las nuevas políticas de calidad ISO 9001 que la empresa está
implementando, todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico deben
ser realizadas al correo electrónico [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Muchas gracias y disculpe las molestías.

Automáticamente este email será reenvio a [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Is this spam or what?  I seem to be getting the same message over and
over to this list...
  



I don't know the language but reading between the lines, this is my 
thoughts.  This person has subscribed to the digest version of this 
list.  They have set their email to send a vacation reply.  So, every 
time he/she gets a email of the digest version, it sends out a reply 
that he/she is not there to read the email.  Not that we really care 
that he/she is not there to read it.  ;-)


[humor]

I'm thinking we send him a email that has a attachment that shuts down 
his email program.  That way it will not send all those out telling us 
he is on vacation plus his spam mail will not be getting confirmation 
that the address is valid.


[/humor]


Make sense to you?

Dale

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