[gentoo-user] static ip

2009-08-09 Thread Andrey Vul
I somehow killed the dhcp in my openwrt router and failsafe mode
requires a static IP address. Stopping net.eth0 and then running
'#ifconfig eth0 up; ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2' resulted with a 'No
route to host' error when telnetting to 192.168.1.1 .


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[gentoo-user] vdpau-able ?

2009-08-09 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

 as far as I think to know ;) (quite unsure about this), NVidia
 has introduced a new protocol (?something like this), which is
 useful for less-CPU-consumpting display of video streams.

 MPlayer (and may be other video-related applikations) does
 support vdpau. 

 First tests on my Linux-box with

mplayer -vo vdpau video

 results in a movie display with best audio, no video at all
 and concerns from mplayer:

[vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 1
Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.

 Unfortunately I have absolutely no clue for waht I have to search
 for.
 What/where I have to reconfig/recompile/install/etc. to make my Linux
 box vdpau-aware.

 Or is it such a new thing, that I better have to keep my fingers off
 that?

 Have a nice sunday!
 Best regards,
  Meino Cramer

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Re: [gentoo-user] static ip

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 August 2009, Andrey Vul wrote:
 I somehow killed the dhcp in my openwrt router and failsafe mode
 requires a static IP address. Stopping net.eth0 and then running
 '#ifconfig eth0 up; ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2' resulted with a 'No
 route to host' error when telnetting to 192.168.1.1 .

I think the No route to host means that your router interface is not up for 
some reason.

Do you get the same problem if you run /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start and then you 
run ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2

Otherwise also run:  route add default gw 192.168.1.1

HTH. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] vdpau-able ?

2009-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 09 August 2009 09:25:08 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

  as far as I think to know ;) (quite unsure about this), NVidia
  has introduced a new protocol (?something like this), which is
  useful for less-CPU-consumpting display of video streams.

  MPlayer (and may be other video-related applikations) does
  support vdpau.

  First tests on my Linux-box with

 mplayer -vo vdpau video

  results in a movie display with best audio, no video at all
  and concerns from mplayer:

 [vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 1

Well, I entered this exact line above into google and the first two hits took 
me to the NVNews forum where you will find heaps of help. Such as:

-not every nvidia card supports it
-not every nvidia driver supports it
-you must run the nvidia bug reporting tool to find out if you can use it
-as of February, vdpau and xinerama were incompatible

You'll get better quality help at NVNews than here, as the nvidia devs watch 
that forum and do respond.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DSL and ATT. About time.

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
On Saturday 08 August 2009, Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2009-08-08, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
  On 08/08/2009 05:29 AM, Dale wrote:
  I had thought about picking up a Linksys router and putting it
  between my desktop and the modem.
 
  Your modem is probably a router anyway.

+1

I don't think I have seen a proper adsl modem for years now.  99% of them are 
modem+router combos or half-bridged routers.

 Almost certainly (at least in the US).  DSL modems with
 Ethernet interfaces almost always are routers/firewalls (and
 have been since way back when).  It used to be common for Cable
 modems to be bridges, but that seems to be getting less
 common.

Yes, most cable so called modems are half-bridged routers.

  Furthermore, right now you're accessing the internet without
  any form of protection anyway.  If you're with dial-up, that
  means you're connected directly to the internet.  And don't
  forget this is Linux, not Windows.
 
  Even without a firewall, remote break-in is highly improbable,
  especially since you're not running any Apache or MySQL
  servers on your machine (at least I assume you don't.)

 That's what I thought back when I was using dialup on a Linux
 box that didn't have any servers running.  Then one day I got
 root-kitted.

 IMO, safely attaching a Linux machine directly to the Internet
 takes a fair bit of skill and lot of diligence.  Safely
 attaching a Windows machine directly to the Internet is at
 least an order of magnitude more difficult.

I think that both are exactly the same in terms of measures that need apply.  
A firewall and practicing safe-hex.

Of course the Linux machine has the added benefit that it should not be 
opening or listening on all sort of ports that you did not ask it to and as a 
rule in Linux you are not running a desktop and its applications logged in as 
root, but the basic premise of using a firewall is the same.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Control Centre - what package provides fonts module?

2009-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 09 August 2009 05:40:07 Stroller wrote:
 Hi there,

 I use a Mac running OS X as my main desktop, but I really like knode
 on the rare occasions I use Usenet. So I have installed knode on a
 headless server and can ssh -X into it and knode works fine.

 Unfortunately, the fonts are pretty large - I would prefer to
 configure these on a KDE-wide basis, as the Location, Edit, View, c
 is equally large in Konqueror, which opens if I click a link in a
 usenet posting in knode.

Did you just install knode, or more than that? knode gives you knode, not the 
other 50 packages that make up a basic KDE session :-)

I suspect you might not have the control centre and it's modules at all, so 
you don;t have the background settings daemon thingy that controls the look 
and feel of all of kde.

Edit ~/.kderc to set defaults you like

Or you could install the kdebase-meta to get everything for a basic session. A 
bit of a waste just for knode...

 Version of knode:

 $ eix knode
 [I] kde-base/knode
   Available versions:
   (3.5)   3.5.9 3.5.10
   (4.2)   ~4.2.4
   (4.3)   [M]~4.3.0!t
   {aqua arts debug elibc_FreeBSD handbook kdeenablefinal kdeprefix
 kontact xinerama}
   Installed versions:  3.5.10(3.5)(13:07:37 25/06/09)(-debug -
 elibc_FreeBSD)
   Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
   Description: A newsreader for KDE




 It appears that `kcmshell` is provided by kde-base/kdelibs, but I
 don't know what the !t in the below means:

The eix man page is written in Martian. You don't understand it, I don;t 
understand it and the developer has no clue what he is doing - if he did, this 
question would not arise. He is making the fatal flaw of exposing the 
implementation in the interface or documentation But having said that, !t 
means that knode is subject to

RESTRICT=test

This fact is hidden deep in the man page, in section OUTPUT, subsection 
Slots, 4th example. Line 647 of 709 on my box (terminal 100 chars wide)

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding VIDEO_CARDS and unrelated question regarding USE flags

2009-08-09 Thread pk
Alex Schuster wrote:

 direct rendering: Yes 


Great!

 I thought OpenGL support were better? And there is power saving. Although I 
 have an onboard card, so I would not have a loud spinning fan.

Well, the drivers I use (ati-drivers-8.552-r2) are working perfectly
(in combination with my current kernel, gentoo-sources-2.6.25-r9) for
all the applications that I have installed/use on my machine. Stability
is an issue for me and until the open source driver has matured I will
stay with this. I have no need for opengl 3+ currently as no
applications that I have installed support it.

 Thanks! But you motivated me to give the new drivers a try.

Ah, well, that's something at least... :-)

 Okay, I just did it. Emerged ati-drivers 9.7. Got a locked display, but 
 after a reboot, all is fine. Wow! Maybe the problem last time was that I 
 tried 9.6, or I did not reboot. Whatever.

Well, X drivers has some bits that needs to be synchronised: a kernel
space glue (DRM module) and the user space X driver. So if you have
upgraded you need to kill X, unload the old kernel module and load the
new one, start X again. If you didn't know this already...

 Thanks again, I needed a little kick.

Bitte schön!

MfG

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} zflashpoint for Linux? (SSD performance accelerator)

2009-08-09 Thread Florian Philipp
Grant schrieb:
 Here is some info on zflashpoint:

 http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5163549

 It is supposed to be an SSD performance accelerator.

 Gen1 SSDs suffer with small file writes and I read that 90% of
 Windows writes are small, so that introduces overall system lag.
 zflashpoint uses a 32MB buffer for small file writes, combining them
 and dumping them as one big write.

 Has anyone heard of development of a similar project for Linux?

 - Grant

 Sounds like laptop-mode to me (app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools). For ext*
 file systems, you can also try the 'commit' mount option.
 On her laptop, I get:

 # cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
 0

 There is lots of talk on the internet about the stuttering problems on
 SSD netbooks.  Are you thinking this problem shouldn't manifest itself
 on a Linux system?

 - Grant

 Well, as I see it, there are two distinct problems here:
 1. (Cheap) SSDs are slow
 2. (Cheap) SSDs are terribly slow on random write

 Both reasons can produce stuttering and you can't completely fix them.
 However, you can try to cache random writes until you can commit them as
 one sequential write.

 There are several things which will help here:

 1. A file system that does not scatter data unnecessarily and which
 might even align its (meta)data to the erase block boundaries of the SSD.[1]

 2. A long commit interval in which writes can be collected until they
 are actually performed in optimal order(see my last post).
 
 OK, I'm sorry, I thought you were telling me before she must be in
 laptop-mode.  Now I see that laptop-mode can act as the cache.  Has
 anyone actually reported laptop-mode helping ease the stuttering of
 slow SSDs?
 

No need to apologize.

Some additional thoughts:

When you think about the situation, laptop-mode might actually make the
situation worse. You see, it was originally developed to help HDDs
staying in standby for longer periods by delaying writes until a read
action causes the drive to spin up or some period of time has passed.

At this point, all writes should happen in one short burst. However,
with slow SSDs, these bursts might actually cause the stuttering you
experience. This is especially true when the writes delay a read action.
I'm not sure whether the disk scheduler prefers reads over writes but it
certainly would help.

There is no need to keep an SSD idle as there is no kind of standby like
HDDs have.[1] Therefore I think a better solution would be treating
write actions as batch jobs: You do them only when there is nothing
better to do (i.e. no read action). Until then, you keep them in a large
write cache.

I'm not sure if there is such a system, yet. Maybe you should try out
XFS as it already implements a very aggressive write cache. I'd be very
interested in benchmarks for Ext4 vs. XFS on slow SSDs
but I wouldn't bet on seeing one soon. I suppose simulating and
measuring such a usage pattern isn't a simple task.

[1] Sure, an idle SSD still consumes less power than a busy one but you
can't really compare that to HDDs.



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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Control Centre - what package provides fonts module?

2009-08-09 Thread Stroller


On 9 Aug 2009, at 10:40, Alan McKinnon wrote:

...
Did you just install knode, or more than that? knode gives you  
knode, not the

other 50 packages that make up a basic KDE session :-)


I just emerge'd knode  added xauth when X11 over ssh gave an error.

I suspect you might not have the control centre and it's modules at  
all, so
you don't have the background settings daemon thingy that controls  
the look

and feel of all of kde.


I have the KDE Control Centre - that's what opens when I run  
`kcontrol`. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, but that *does* open -  
it's just blank down the left-hand side.


Apparently I installed kde-base/kcontrol (and Konqueror) manually to  
try  fix this, but apparently it didn't install the modules.


$ eix -I -C kde* -c
[I] kde-base/certmanager (3.5.10-r1(3.5)@09/08/09): KDE certificate  
manager gui.
[I] kde-base/kcminit (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KCMInit - runs startups  
initialization for Control Modules.

[I] kde-base/kcontrol (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): The KDE Control Center
[I] kde-base/kdebase-data (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): Icons, localization  
data and various .desktop files from kdebase.
[I] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves (3.5.10-r1(3.5)@25/06/09): kioslave:  
the kde VFS framework - kioslave plugins present a filesystem-like  
view of arbitrary data
[I] kde-base/kdelibs (3.5.10-r6(3.5)@09/08/09): KDE libraries needed  
by all KDE programs.

[I] kde-base/kdesu (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE: gui for su(1)
[I] kde-base/kdialog (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDialog can be used to  
show nice dialog boxes from shell scripts

[I] kde-base/kfind (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE file finder utility
[I] kde-base/khelpcenter (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): The KDE Help Center
[I] kde-base/khotkeys (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE: hotkey daemon
[I] kde-base/kicker (3.5.10-r1(3.5)@25/06/09): Kicker is the KDE  
application starter panel, also capable of some useful applets and  
extensions.

[I] kde-base/kmenuedit (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE menu editor
[I] kde-base/knode (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): A newsreader for KDE
[I] kde-base/konqueror (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE: Web browser, file  
manager, ...
[I] kde-base/kontact (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE personal information  
manager
[I] kde-base/ktnef (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE Viewer for mail  
attachments using TNEF format
[I] kde-base/libkcal (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE kcal library for  
KOrganizer etc
[I] kde-base/libkdenetwork (3.5.10-r1(3.5)@09/08/09): library common  
to many KDE network apps
[I] kde-base/libkdepim (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): Common library for KDE  
PIM apps
[I] kde-base/libkmime (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE kmime library for  
Message Handling
[I] kde-base/libkonq (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): The embeddable part of  
konqueror

[I] kde-base/libkpgp (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE pgp abstraction library
[I] kde-base/libkpimidentities (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE PIM  
identities library

Found 24 matches.
$



Edit ~/.kderc to set defaults you like


I'd rather not - it's kinda clumsy. If the KDE Control Centre is  
working properly it'll only take a couple of presses of a down arrow  
to reduce the font size. That's much easier than spending time working  
out what the -1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 all mean in ~/.kderc.


Or you could install the kdebase-meta to get everything for a basic  
session. A

bit of a waste just for knode...


And on the other hand, it's kinda clumsy having to install all that,  
just to add a module to the KDE Control Centre.


Thanks for your help,

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] static ip

2009-08-09 Thread Stroller


On 9 Aug 2009, at 08:01, Andrey Vul wrote:


I somehow killed the dhcp in my openwrt router and failsafe mode
requires a static IP address. Stopping net.eth0 and then running
'#ifconfig eth0 up; ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2' resulted with a 'No
route to host' error when telnetting to 192.168.1.1 .


Better to edit /etc/conf.d/net for static IP, then restart /etc/init.d/ 
net.eth0


See /etc/conf.d/net.example

Probably something like:

config_eth0=( 192.168.1.44 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast  
192.168.1.255 )

routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.1.1 )

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} zflashpoint for Linux? (SSD performance accelerator)

2009-08-09 Thread Grant
 Here is some info on zflashpoint:

 http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5163549

 It is supposed to be an SSD performance accelerator.

 Gen1 SSDs suffer with small file writes and I read that 90% of
 Windows writes are small, so that introduces overall system lag.
 zflashpoint uses a 32MB buffer for small file writes, combining them
 and dumping them as one big write.

 Has anyone heard of development of a similar project for Linux?

 - Grant

 Sounds like laptop-mode to me (app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools). For ext*
 file systems, you can also try the 'commit' mount option.
 On her laptop, I get:

 # cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
 0

 There is lots of talk on the internet about the stuttering problems on
 SSD netbooks.  Are you thinking this problem shouldn't manifest itself
 on a Linux system?

 - Grant

 Well, as I see it, there are two distinct problems here:
 1. (Cheap) SSDs are slow
 2. (Cheap) SSDs are terribly slow on random write

 Both reasons can produce stuttering and you can't completely fix them.
 However, you can try to cache random writes until you can commit them as
 one sequential write.

 There are several things which will help here:

 1. A file system that does not scatter data unnecessarily and which
 might even align its (meta)data to the erase block boundaries of the SSD.[1]

 2. A long commit interval in which writes can be collected until they
 are actually performed in optimal order(see my last post).

 OK, I'm sorry, I thought you were telling me before she must be in
 laptop-mode.  Now I see that laptop-mode can act as the cache.  Has
 anyone actually reported laptop-mode helping ease the stuttering of
 slow SSDs?


 No need to apologize.

 Some additional thoughts:

 When you think about the situation, laptop-mode might actually make the
 situation worse. You see, it was originally developed to help HDDs
 staying in standby for longer periods by delaying writes until a read
 action causes the drive to spin up or some period of time has passed.

 At this point, all writes should happen in one short burst. However,
 with slow SSDs, these bursts might actually cause the stuttering you
 experience. This is especially true when the writes delay a read action.
 I'm not sure whether the disk scheduler prefers reads over writes but it
 certainly would help.

 There is no need to keep an SSD idle as there is no kind of standby like
 HDDs have.[1] Therefore I think a better solution would be treating
 write actions as batch jobs: You do them only when there is nothing
 better to do (i.e. no read action). Until then, you keep them in a large
 write cache.

 I'm not sure if there is such a system, yet. Maybe you should try out
 XFS as it already implements a very aggressive write cache. I'd be very
 interested in benchmarks for Ext4 vs. XFS on slow SSDs
 but I wouldn't bet on seeing one soon. I suppose simulating and
 measuring such a usage pattern isn't a simple task.

 [1] Sure, an idle SSD still consumes less power than a busy one but you
 can't really compare that to HDDs.

Thank you Florian.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-09 Thread Grant
   Oh, and you're utilizing SMART, right?
 
  Should I be doing more than running this test:
 
  smartctl -t long /dev/sda
 [...]
 Does this indicate everything is OK as far as SMART can tell?

 Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining
 LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
 # 1  Extended offline    Completed without error     00%   14109 -

 Looks good. Have a look at the output of 'smartctl -H /dev/sda', too. And
 also of 'smartctl -A /dev/sda', there you may spot things that are wearing
 down, but not failing imminently. The output is a little hard to interpret,
 though.

 Here's an article about smartmontools:
 http://www.linuxjournal.com:80/article/6983

        Wonko

Thank you for that.  I do get this on one HDD:

SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Please note the following marginal Attributes:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   066   035   045Old_age
Always   In_the_past 34 (Lifetime Min/Max 20/38)

But based on the info here:

http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=117t=9806start=15

it doesn't sound like a big deal.  That HDD was previously in another
system which I think had a temperature problem.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} zflashpoint for Linux? (SSD performance accelerator)

2009-08-09 Thread Eray Aslan
On 09.08.2009 16:13, Florian Philipp wrote:
[..]
 When you think about the situation, laptop-mode might actually make the
 situation worse. You see, it was originally developed to help HDDs
 staying in standby for longer periods by delaying writes until a read
 action causes the drive to spin up or some period of time has passed.
 
 At this point, all writes should happen in one short burst. However,
 with slow SSDs, these bursts might actually cause the stuttering you
 experience. This is especially true when the writes delay a read action.
 I'm not sure whether the disk scheduler prefers reads over writes but it
 certainly would help.

Reads do get higher priority by default.  They are synchronous afterall.
 Problem usually occurs when reads get interspersed with random writes,
i.e. when start you getting lots of seeks.

But good SSDs don't care.  Only HDDs do.  And maybe bad SSDs, too.

 There is no need to keep an SSD idle as there is no kind of standby like
 HDDs have.[1] Therefore I think a better solution would be treating
 write actions as batch jobs: You do them only when there is nothing
 better to do (i.e. no read action). Until then, you keep them in a large
 write cache.

It is not that easy (it never is?).  There are a lot of trade-offs as
can be witnessed by the variety and complexity of the disk schedulers.

 I'm not sure if there is such a system, yet. Maybe you should try out
 XFS as it already implements a very aggressive write cache. I'd be very
 interested in benchmarks for Ext4 vs. XFS on slow SSDs
 but I wouldn't bet on seeing one soon. I suppose simulating and
 measuring such a usage pattern isn't a simple task.

Well, work with email (email causes a lot of filesystem syncs typically)
while dd'ing a big file repeatedly in the background.  Should be close
enough.  Both latency (stutters) and throughput are important.

-- 
Eray



Re: [gentoo-user] vdpau-able ?

2009-08-09 Thread Manuel Fiorelli
2009/8/9  meino.cra...@gmx.de:
  as far as I think to know ;) (quite unsure about this), NVidia
  has introduced a new protocol (?something like this), which is
  useful for less-CPU-consumpting display of video streams.

  MPlayer (and may be other video-related applikations) does
  support vdpau.

Thanks for point out this. I didn't know that NVidia introduced such
an important feature.

  First tests on my Linux-box with

    mplayer -vo vdpau video

  results in a movie display with best audio, no video at all
  and concerns from mplayer:

Your command didn't work for me, too. First, I checked that my video
card was capable of supporting
this new API. Then, I updated the nvidia video driver and recompiled
mplayer. For mplayer, make sure
to activate the local use flag vdpau.

Manuel Fiorelli



Re: [gentoo-user] vdpau-able ?

2009-08-09 Thread Manuel Fiorelli
2009/8/9 Manuel Fiorelli manuel.fiore...@gmail.com:
 2009/8/9  meino.cra...@gmx.de:
  First tests on my Linux-box with

    mplayer -vo vdpau video

  results in a movie display with best audio, no video at all
  and concerns from mplayer:

 Your command didn't work for me, too. First, I checked that my video
 card was capable of supporting
 this new API. Then, I updated the nvidia video driver and recompiled
 mplayer. For mplayer, make sure
 to activate the local use flag vdpau.

Assuming that you want to playback a H.264 video, then right command should be

mplayer -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau file

to force the selection of the HW accelerated codec from FFMPEG. Can
anyone confirm that?

Manuel Fiorelli



[gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when looking at 
the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files fine, I 
cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a hiss no matter 
which player I use.

What do I need to do to be able to copy mp3s out of a CD?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:

 I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when looking at
 the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files fine, I
 cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a hiss no matter
 which player I use.

What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play anything else 
than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones representing the real 
data.

If you have the correct encoders installed, copying the other files to some 
other place will encode the selected audio track(s) and store the result in 
the destination directory.

 What do I need to do to be able to copy mp3s out of a CD?

The correct encoders. See the audio cd section in KDE's system settings.

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
  I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when looking
  at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files
  fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a hiss
  no matter which player I use.

 What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play anything
 else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones representing
 the real data.

Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB large, so I 
thought that it has real music in it.

 If you have the correct encoders installed, copying the other files to some
 other place will encode the selected audio track(s) and store the result in
 the destination directory.

  What do I need to do to be able to copy mp3s out of a CD?

 The correct encoders. See the audio cd section in KDE's system settings.

This is what I can see under kcontrol/audiocd:

http://gentoo.michaelkintzios.fastmail.fm/audioCD.png

I guess these settings are not enough on their own.  What else should I add?  
How do I specify the necessary encoders?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 09 August 2009, Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
  Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
   I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when
   looking at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav
   files fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is
   a hiss no matter which player I use.
 
  What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play anything
  else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones
  representing the real data.

 Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB large, so I
 thought that it has real music in it.

  If you have the correct encoders installed, copying the other files to
  some other place will encode the selected audio track(s) and store the
  result in the destination directory.
 
   What do I need to do to be able to copy mp3s out of a CD?
 
  The correct encoders. See the audio cd section in KDE's system settings.

 This is what I can see under kcontrol/audiocd:

 http://gentoo.michaelkintzios.fastmail.fm/audioCD.png

 I guess these settings are not enough on their own.  What else should I
 add? How do I specify the necessary encoders?

use constant bitrate, not vbr, just copy the mp3 somewhere and you will be 
fine.



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Stroller


On 9 Aug 2009, at 21:00, Mick wrote:


On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when  
looking

at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files
fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a  
hiss

no matter which player I use.


What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play  
anything
else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones  
representing

the real data.


Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB  
large, so I

thought that it has real music in it.


I believe that once you've dragged  dropped one of these somewhere -  
resulting in a .mp3 file of about that size - they should indeed be  
playable. It sounds like something's broken.


Are you using  KDE 3.5.10?

I think your problem may be described in this article:
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200907/page04.html

   But, if you want to rip MP3 files, you will have some extra work  
to do

   to get them to come out right. Due to a bug that crept into KDE
   3.5.10, MP3s do not encode properly. Without the fix, all your  
MP3s

   will be nothing more than static-filled white noise.

I no longer consider MP3 as a particularly good format for compressed  
audio. You might want to consider the Ogg Vorbis option, although on  
other platforms you may need to install software to play this format.


Stroller.




[gentoo-user] Re: maintaining clones

2009-08-09 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 09:07:14AM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have 4 identical machines, they only differ in the 2 files
 /etc/conf.d/hostname
 /etc/conf.d/net
 
 I'd like to maintain only one of them (updating
 GenToo upto several times a week)
 and 'rsync' the other ones.

Why not use a DCVS?

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 August 2009, Stroller wrote:
 On 9 Aug 2009, at 21:00, Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
  Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
  I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when
  looking
  at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files
  fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a
  hiss
  no matter which player I use.
 
  What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play
  anything
  else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones
  representing
  the real data.
 
  Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB
  large, so I
  thought that it has real music in it.

 I believe that once you've dragged  dropped one of these somewhere -
 resulting in a .mp3 file of about that size - they should indeed be
 playable. It sounds like something's broken.

 Are you using  KDE 3.5.10?

 I think your problem may be described in this article:
 http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200907/page04.html

 But, if you want to rip MP3 files, you will have some extra work
 to do
 to get them to come out right. Due to a bug that crept into KDE
 3.5.10, MP3s do not encode properly. Without the fix, all your
 MP3s
 will be nothing more than static-filled white noise.

 I no longer consider MP3 as a particularly good format for compressed
 audio. You might want to consider the Ogg Vorbis option, although on
 other platforms you may need to install software to play this format.

Thank you both.  It seems that this is indeed a bug for KDE-3.5.10.  :-(

I tried both solutions and neither works.  The former creates a 4.5MB mp3 file 
which is full of white noise, the latter described in the article creates an 
empty file 0MB.

Is there another solution to this?  I need mp3 because the file will be 
ultimately played on a vanilla WinXP PC.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 09 August 2009, Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 09 August 2009, Stroller wrote:
  On 9 Aug 2009, at 21:00, Mick wrote:
   On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
   I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when
   looking
   at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files
   fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a
   hiss
   no matter which player I use.
  
   What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play
   anything
   else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones
   representing
   the real data.
  
   Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB
   large, so I
   thought that it has real music in it.
 
  I believe that once you've dragged  dropped one of these somewhere -
  resulting in a .mp3 file of about that size - they should indeed be
  playable. It sounds like something's broken.
 
  Are you using  KDE 3.5.10?
 
  I think your problem may be described in this article:
  http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200907/page04.html
 
  But, if you want to rip MP3 files, you will have some extra work
  to do
  to get them to come out right. Due to a bug that crept into KDE
  3.5.10, MP3s do not encode properly. Without the fix, all your
  MP3s
  will be nothing more than static-filled white noise.
 
  I no longer consider MP3 as a particularly good format for compressed
  audio. You might want to consider the Ogg Vorbis option, although on
  other platforms you may need to install software to play this format.

 Thank you both.  It seems that this is indeed a bug for KDE-3.5.10.  :-(

 I tried both solutions and neither works.  The former creates a 4.5MB mp3
 file which is full of white noise, the latter described in the article
 creates an empty file 0MB.

 Is there another solution to this?  I need mp3 because the file will be
 ultimately played on a vanilla WinXP PC.

I have started using flacs - because they can easily be trancoded into mp3 or 
ogg. flacs are lossless so they are good intermediate format. Rip to flac, 
store 
cd away and encode to whatever you want/need whenever you want/need to.



[gentoo-user] {OT} smartctl: read failure

2009-08-09 Thread Grant
I get this on my laptop's internal HDD:

# smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining
LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   60% 12400
  149547192

after some Googling, it sounds like it's bad sectors and not
necessarily cause for alarm.  Does anyone have experience with this
type of error?  Can you suggest other tests to run, or comment on the
severity of the error?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 August 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Sonntag 09 August 2009, Mick wrote:

  Is there another solution to this?  I need mp3 because the file will be
  ultimately played on a vanilla WinXP PC.

 I have started using flacs - because they can easily be trancoded into mp3
 or ogg. flacs are lossless so they are good intermediate format. Rip to
 flac, store cd away and encode to whatever you want/need whenever you
 want/need to.

Thanks for this.  I ended up copying over to my drive the flac file and then 
running:

for file in *.flac; do $(flac -cd $file | lame -h - ${file%.flac}.mp3); 
done

Not sure if the bitrate is appropriate.  As is it was converted to a 48KB mp3 
file at a bitrate of 128kbps.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} smartctl: read failure

2009-08-09 Thread walt

On 08/09/2009 03:15 PM, Grant wrote:

I get this on my laptop's internal HDD:

# smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining
LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   60% 12400
   149547192

after some Googling, it sounds like it's bad sectors and not
necessarily cause for alarm.  Does anyone have experience with this
type of error?  Can you suggest other tests to run, or comment on the
severity of the error?


I have a disk that seemed very flakey in the lowest 10GB or so, even
when it was relatively new. I ran e2fsck with the -c and -k flags over
a period of time, and now I can use all of the disk with no apparent
problems.

You should read the man pages for e2fsck and badblocks before doing
anything, of course.

I've heard that SMART in newer disks is supposed to substitute bad
block automatically, but I don't seem to have any disks that new.
(Informed advice is very welcome :o)







Re: [gentoo-user] DSL and ATT. About time.

2009-08-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Anyone here have ATT DSL?  Is there anything special software wise that
 I need to get it to work or do I just point to the URL of the modem and
 set it up that way?

 As some may know, I have been promised DSL for the past 5 years or so.
 It is supposed to be here next week.  They put the cards in the DSL box
 today.  YEPPIE    If I don't get DSL this time, my next post may be
 from jail.  I'm going to drive my uninsured 3/4 ton pick up right over
 their shiney new DSL box.  :-@

 Thanks.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

I believe they use PPPoE, which most consumer-grade DSL/Cable routers
have built in support for. On your Gentoo box you wouldn't need to do
anything special, I don't think. Depending if you're using DHCP or
not.



Re: [gentoo-user] DSL and ATT. About time.

2009-08-09 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Hi folks,

 Anyone here have ATT DSL?  Is there anything special software wise that
 I need to get it to work or do I just point to the URL of the modem and
 set it up that way?

 As some may know, I have been promised DSL for the past 5 years or so.
 It is supposed to be here next week.  They put the cards in the DSL box
 today.  YEPPIE    If I don't get DSL this time, my next post may be
 from jail.  I'm going to drive my uninsured 3/4 ton pick up right over
 their shiney new DSL box.  :-@

 Thanks.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)
 

 I believe they use PPPoE, which most consumer-grade DSL/Cable routers
 have built in support for. On your Gentoo box you wouldn't need to do
 anything special, I don't think. Depending if you're using DHCP or
 not.


   

That is what I was thinking too.  I still have dhcp installed from when
I was with my ex and her cable internet.  Sounds like I am pretty much
ready to go here. 

Thanks for the info.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: Root-kitted (was: DSL and ATT. About time.)

2009-08-09 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-08-08, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
 Grant Edwards wrote:

 That's what I thought back when I was using dialup on a Linux
 box that didn't have any servers running.  Then one day I got
 root-kitted.

 This may be off-topic but I'm curious about the details. Can you please
 elaborate?

Well, it was probably about 9 years ago, but here's the way I
remember it:

It started when I noticed the modem's RX/TX lights were
flashing when there was no reason for them to be doing so (I
was in the habit of keeping an eye on them to make sure the
connection was working OK).  When I did a netstat, it showed
active network connections that shouldn't have been there, but
ps didn't show the processes that netstat said had connections
open.  The ps binary had been replaced with a hacked version.
IIRC, so had the lsof binary because it didn't show the
processes that had the connections open either.

I was running an RPM-based installation at the time (RH 6 or 7
I believe), and and an rpm verify command failed for a
handful of system related binaries (among them ps and lsof):
they weren't the same files that rpm had installed.

The /proc filesystem was still complete, so I was able to track
down the suspect processes and find out what binaries they were
running.  The binaries were very oddly named files in very
strange places.  A web search for their names told me that they
were part of a rootkit that was used to remotely exploit Linux
machines.

I shut down the machine, rebooted from a liveCD, backed up some
user files, and did a clean install -- after which I signed up
for DSL and a Cicso 675 modem/router.

It was a very sobering experience...

-- 
Grant