Re: [gentoo-user] wine DVD/CD -- how to configure?
Am Dienstag 10 November 2009 09:00:12 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Hi there! I'm just trying to get an windows-application running, and I fail to configure the dvd drive properly. The problem: In winecfg 's drive-tab there is a setting cdrom, but it demands a path where the dvd/cd is mounted. But this path is dynamic (/media/$NAMEOFDVD). Greetings Alex fstab, create entry for dvd, mount dvd, you are done. I created the fstab entry (with filesystem=auto, flags=user,ro,noauto), the user can mount the drive, access the content and unmount the drive again. But this has to be entered on the console, which is absolutely unusable for users who don't have any clue what a console is :-( There must be some way to make wine doing all this so that the cd/dvd is automatically visible just like under native windows or KDE. Greetings Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa SPDIF+analog at same time
Am Dienstag 10 November 2009 21:39:03 schrieb David W Noon: Have you upgraded your kernel recently? I found that the SP/DIF output stopped working when I upgraded from 2.6.29 to 2.6.30. I might downgrade my kernel to check that it was this that caused the SP/DIF (or TOSLink) output to stop. No, its still 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 built in June this year. Greetings Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] wine DVD/CD -- how to configure?
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 10:31:53 Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Am Dienstag 10 November 2009 09:00:12 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Hi there! I'm just trying to get an windows-application running, and I fail to configure the dvd drive properly. The problem: In winecfg 's drive-tab there is a setting cdrom, but it demands a path where the dvd/cd is mounted. But this path is dynamic (/media/$NAMEOFDVD). Greetings Alex fstab, create entry for dvd, mount dvd, you are done. I created the fstab entry (with filesystem=auto, flags=user,ro,noauto), the user can mount the drive, access the content and unmount the drive again. But this has to be entered on the console, which is absolutely unusable for users who don't have any clue what a console is :-( There must be some way to make wine doing all this so that the cd/dvd is automatically visible just like under native windows or KDE. your problem is that the mount point is dynamic. So change your system to make the mount point static, using hal, udev, fstab or whatever else it is you use for that. Then when media is inserted, it will be mounted at a known point and show up in the file browser. You might have to make a symlink from /media/cdrom to D: or similar -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuild of Postgres-8.3.8 almost a catastrophe
In 200911091155.35236.volkerar...@googlemail.com volkerar...@googlemail.com (Volker Armin Hemmann) writes: On Montag 09 November 2009, Konstantinos Agouros wrote: Hi, usually upgrade within a minor version of postgres do not need a pg_dump_all/ and reimport. But the upgrade from 8.3.7 to 8.3.8 does as the configure option for integer-timestamps changed and thus the newly compiled server can not read the existing database files. Regards, Konstantin have you opened a bug report about this? Or is there one already? Nope didn't have the time. I needed to get the DB running again quick by: ebuild .../postgresql-server-8.3.8.ebuild compile, interrupting this call ./configure manually with --enable-integer-timestamps and then copying the postgres binary in the approp. position after compiling. This is working. The next upgrade if ~amd64 is enabled would be 8.4 so I should dump/restore anyway. But I will do that in an appropriate timeslot. Regards, Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Altersheimerstr. 1, 81545 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres
Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuild of Postgres-8.3.8 almost a catastrophe
In 87r5s7q2je@newton.gmurray.org.uk gra...@gmurray.org.uk (Graham Murray) writes: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: On 9 Nov 2009, at 10:25, Konstantinos Agouros wrote: I assume this is an upstream decision, and may be expected to apply to 8.3.9, 8.3.10, ... also? I have no reason to wait and see if this is resolved, I should be careful to do a dump and restore next time I upgrade? NO. It was not an upstream change. Upstream changed to integer timestamps by default in 8.4.0, the default did not change between 8.3.7 and 8.3.8. However, in typical gentoo manner, this is configurable by the pg-intdatetime USE flag, which is not enabled by default. Thanks for this bit of informationn. -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Altersheimerstr. 1, 81545 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres
[gentoo-user] urgent : chicken-egg problem
Hi,, somehow one of my machines is broken. After uninstalling x11-drivers/ati-drivers eselect opengl set xorg-x11 gives Switching to xorg-x11 OpenGL interface...!!! Error: No proper xorg-x11 or xorg-x11 opengl implementation found Trying to re-emerge media-libs/mesa fails during install Switching to xorg-x11 OpenGL interface...!!! Error: No proper xorg-x11 or xorg-x11 opengl implementation found exiting and trying to re-emerge x11-base/xorg-server fails because of missing file /usr/lib64/libGL.so So, how can I cut this Gordean knot? Many thanks for your help, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] Font recommendations for netbook?
091110 Walter Dnes wrote: Fluxbox is blowing up on my new machine because it can't find any fixed fonts. merely building xorg-server doesn't download any fonts. Looking at /usr/portage/media-fonts I see a whole bunch of options. Any experiences good/bad with any of them? this wb on an 11.6 netbook, currently running 1024x768 and hopefully 1366x768 one of these days. the less processor power it requires to render, the better. I've successfully installed Gentoo on my 10 netbook. I simply did 'emerge xorg-x11', which had 91 dependencies, which included lots of fonts. Fluxbox is working well. I prefer Luxi Mono for even-spaced font; size 8 seems best for a netbook. No problems with CPU power (ASUS 1005HA) or memory use. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] strange delays with Xorg-x11-7.4-r1
09 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 18:19 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 09 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:31 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: Since upgrading to Xorg-x11-7.4-r1 , Xterm Xpdf are very slow to open: Xterm takes c 6 sec to start Xpdf also has a noticeable delay. the disk / cpu does nothing ? I just tested starting Xterm on the desktop where Gkrellm runs. There is a brief CPU load of 27 % , then 100 % at every start; at the 1st start, there's a spike in disk access; 1st start was c 6 sec , 2nd c 4 sec . Xpdf is very similar. Xclock has the same CPU effect, but starts after c 3 sec . I remerged Xterm Xclock, ran 'X -configure' re-installed xorg.conf , but there is no change. Run lsmod and see if the nvidia driver is actually being used ? -- I have 48 in the used-by column. Yes, it is: used by '26'. Is the general refresh rate and glx type apps ok ? There hasn't been any other similar effect which I've noticed. I don't think you need to rebuild nvidia, but did you anyway ? I last rebuilt Nvidia-drivers after the Xorg-x11 upgrade; I had to use the testing version 185.18.36-r1 , as stable 180.60 wouldn't compile with Gentoo-sources 2.6.31-r4 . Someone else mentioned networking, but I have no local network or firewall none of these apps uses the Internet. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2
2009/11/11 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: On Mittwoch 11 November 2009, Walter Dnes wrote: Programmers all seem to have gaming rigs. It's been a struggle to keep hal and dbus off my machines. And I was unhappy when Firefox put SQLite in as a hard dependancy. I think you'll simply have to give up on KDE and its applications. hal and dbus have as much as zero performance impact. And dbus also replaces dcop. So there there is a system less running. mysql embedded is also a very low load. In an ideal world we would have a light version and a heavy/full featured version of everything. However, in reality people develop what they need/fancy and hardware technology advances - so we have to find workarounds and make compromises. KDE used to be more light-footed than Gnome, so I invariably used most of its applications on my ancient hardware. It seems that with KDE4 this is becoming increasingly less so. I've been running this PIII laptop for the last 11 years (wow!!! doesn't time fly) and it has become increasingly sluggish because most packages are designed for modern machines which are of course more powerful. It is only reasonable that building some of today's apps for a Pentium 1 or Pentium 2 is not going to work particularly well ... so I'll be breaking the piggy bank and buying something more up to date any day now. That should hopefully keep the noise down. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] strange delays with Xorg-x11-7.4-r1
2009/11/11 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net: 09 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 18:19 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 09 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:31 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: Since upgrading to Xorg-x11-7.4-r1 , Xterm Xpdf are very slow to open: Xterm takes c 6 sec to start Xpdf also has a noticeable delay. the disk / cpu does nothing ? I just tested starting Xterm on the desktop where Gkrellm runs. There is a brief CPU load of 27 % , then 100 % at every start; at the 1st start, there's a spike in disk access; 1st start was c 6 sec , 2nd c 4 sec . Xpdf is very similar. Xclock has the same CPU effect, but starts after c 3 sec . I remerged Xterm Xclock, ran 'X -configure' re-installed xorg.conf , but there is no change. Run lsmod and see if the nvidia driver is actually being used ? -- I have 48 in the used-by column. Yes, it is: used by '26'. Is the general refresh rate and glx type apps ok ? There hasn't been any other similar effect which I've noticed. I don't think you need to rebuild nvidia, but did you anyway ? I last rebuilt Nvidia-drivers after the Xorg-x11 upgrade; I had to use the testing version 185.18.36-r1 , as stable 180.60 wouldn't compile with Gentoo-sources 2.6.31-r4 . Someone else mentioned networking, but I have no local network or firewall none of these apps uses the Internet. The localhost issue in /etc/hosts only affected KDE as far as I recall. If you are not running KDE as your DE then it would be something else. Over here xpdf takes less that 1 second to pop up when started from a terminal in Fluxbox, but I am not running xorg-x11. -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] entropy problem
I try to commit a lot of PNGs to SVN (ran a shrink script on them) but get SSL handshake failed: Secure connection truncated too often. I Could sit there and move the mouse all the time to work around it, but I would really like to avoid that. I Installed media-sound/audio-entropyd-2.0.1 and fixed the init script and conf-file as described in [https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271882]. But how do I know if it does anything useful? It does not seem to keep up with the consumption of SVN. I even tried to echo 3000 /proc/sys/kernel/random/write_wakeup_threshold but it does not seem to take effect. Would I need to restart audio-entropyd or do something else to apply the new value?
Re: [gentoo-user] strange delays with Xorg-x11-7.4-r1
09 Mick wrote: xpdf takes less that 1 second to pop up when started from a terminal in Fluxbox, but I am not running xorg-x11. What are you running to support graphics for Fluxbox ?? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Re: xdm doesn't restart on killed X
In gmane.linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 17:54:48 Doki Pen wrote: I've recently switched from gdm to xdm in an effort to reduce my distro size. The only problem I've run into is that when I kill my X session, xdm doesn't restart automatically. I have to switch to a vtty and type exec sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart. I've read the man pages and googled but can't come up with a solution. Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this issue? When X exists, is xdm still running or has it died too? You can tell when restarting xdm if it gives errors about xdm not running when the stop phase of restart is run xdm is not running after I kill my xsession. It is running after I log in. I tested using ps -Af | grep -i xdm.
[gentoo-user] Apache SSL configuration gone AWOL...
After a recent update, I restarted Apache... I host a number of trivial development servers (using named virtual hosts) and also support access to one of them over SSL. While I can access all my data over http, access by https has stopped working. I wondered if an update had made apache fussy that my old self-signed certificate didn't match the domains it was serving - so re-created new certificates to no avail. No illuminating information is written to the log files in /var/log/apache2 - but if I attempt to access the https services (which worked with my configuration prior to re-starting apache) I get various errors: Firefox under Windows and Ubuntu : Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to server. Peer's certificate has an invalid signature. (Error code: sec_error_bad_signature) IE 7: Navigation to the webpage was canceled I didn't intend to change my configuration... the only /etc/conf.d/apache2 (as far as I recall) was altered - and the APACHE2_OPTS setting is now APACHE2_OPTS=-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D PHP5 -D DAV -D INFO -D SSL -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D LANGUAGE Any ideas?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xdm doesn't restart on killed X
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 16:17:45 doki_...@doki-pen.org wrote: In gmane.linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 17:54:48 Doki Pen wrote: I've recently switched from gdm to xdm in an effort to reduce my distro size. The only problem I've run into is that when I kill my X session, xdm doesn't restart automatically. I have to switch to a vtty and type exec sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart. I've read the man pages and googled but can't come up with a solution. Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this issue? When X exists, is xdm still running or has it died too? You can tell when restarting xdm if it gives errors about xdm not running when the stop phase of restart is run xdm is not running after I kill my xsession. It is running after I log in. I tested using ps -Af | grep -i xdm. Ok, so I reckon the init script dies because xdm dies when X exists. is there anything relevant in your messages log file, Xorg.0.log, ~/.xsession- errors and similar logs? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Hi there!
I am not running ~x86 at the moment. I like to stay on the safer side, and
it has not been too much trouble. Yet. There are things in have in
package.keywords, quite a lot actually.
Most packages are not a problem. Examples are games-fps/quake3, games-
fps/worldofpadman or games-strategy/widelands, which I want to use, but
they are all keyworded. Or net-misc/youtube-dl, which changes quite
frequently to adopt to youtube changes, and I want to always have the
newest version. Or firefox 3.5. which took quite a while to go stable I
think. Those are no problem.
There are other packages, which I unmask because of trouble with stable
ones. One example is sys-apps/util-linux-2.15.1, which I need in order to
make cfdisk work with large drives. Sometimes they pull in something else
I have to unmask, but it's no big problem.
Then there is KDE4. I like it, but there are still so many bugs, so I want
it to be a pretty new version from kde-testing. And I guess this is what
is responsible for most of my problems, which make the @world update
break. The current problem is with samba, apparently the monolithic
package is being replaced by split ones, like with Qt. The new version is
needed by kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-4.3.3-r1 (4.3.3 is stable). I can
mask this, and the @world update will work, with a minor complaint about
the masked kioslaves.
I wonder if it's worth the trouble. I read here that running a full ~x86
system would probably be easier. And I'd like to try, but while going from
x86 to ~x86 is easy, the other way is quite hard, isn't it? If possible at
all.
What about stability problems? I'd expect some, as the ~x86 stuff is not
so fully tested. What are your experiences? And, do you also get blockers
from time to time that are hard to solve?
I know this topic has been here a couple of times, sorry for bothering
you, but I do not dare yet to make the switch.
Thanks for comments on this. I won't blame anybody for suggesting to make
the switch in case I will regret this later :)
BTW, when I test this and enable ~x86 in make.conf, I first need to set
the extras use flag for udev, and then I get these blockers. So I have to
go to openrc, okay. And again trouble with my ati drivers. But maybe this
will be over once I have completed the switch.
[blocks B ] sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r11 (sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-
r11 is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.5.2-r2)
[blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.0 (=x11-base/xorg-
server-1.7.0 is blocking x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.9-r2, x11-drivers/ati-
drivers-9.10)
Total: 611 packages (548 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 45 new, 13 in new slots, 4
reinstalls, 1 interactive), Size of downloads: 1,114,567 kB
Conflict: 15 blocks (1 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
[0] /usr/portage/tree
[1] /usr/local/portage/layman/zugaina
[2] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde-testing
[3] /usr/local/portage/layman/science
[4] /usr/local/portage
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.1', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 required by ('installed', '/', 'x11-
drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.2.1', 'nomerge')
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.99.901 required by ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-
drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0', 'merge')
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.2[-minimal] required by ('installed', '/',
'x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4', 'nomerge')
(and 5 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10', 'merge') pulled in by
x11-drivers/ati-drivers:1 required by @world
x11-drivers/ati-drivers required by ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-
drivers-1.7', 'merge')
x11-drivers/ati-drivers required by @world
Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 17:21:26 Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! I wonder if it's worth the trouble. I read here that running a full ~x86 system would probably be easier. And I'd like to try, but while going from x86 to ~x86 is easy, the other way is quite hard, isn't it? If possible at all. yes, it is easier to just go ~x86. Yes, it is very very very hard to go back - easier to reinstall What about stability problems? I'd expect some, as the ~x86 stuff is not so fully tested. What are your experiences? And, do you also get blockers from time to time that are hard to solve? I get a few problems now and then, mostly blockers from incompatible packages. But note that you are going to get exactly the same thing when those packages move to stable. BTW, when I test this and enable ~x86 in make.conf, I first need to set the extras use flag for udev, and then I get these blockers. So I have to go to openrc, okay. And again trouble with my ati drivers. But maybe this will be over once I have completed the switch. There are several documents you should read first at gentoo.org, all related to upgrades. They are in the docs section, the page with the big long list: - the switch to openrc - the most recent X.org upgrade - installing KDE4 - the horrendous amoun of work to get x and hal working if it doesn't work out the box Deal with these blocks individually for best results: [blocks B ] sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r11 (sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86- r11 is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.5.2-r2) emerge -av1 openrc read the elog message and do *exactly* what it says [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.0 (=x11-base/xorg- server-1.7.0 is blocking x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.9-r2, x11-drivers/ati- drivers-9.10) unmerge ati-drivers, make sure VIDEO_CARDS is correct in make.conf and merge X then remerge ALL your drivers. The elog tells you how to proceed emerge -avuND world Everything you run into will be solved using the normal fix-my-gentoo process :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:04:44PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: On Wednesday 11 November 2009 17:21:26 Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! I wonder if it's worth the trouble. I read here that running a full ~x86 system would probably be easier. And I'd like to try, but while going from x86 to ~x86 is easy, the other way is quite hard, isn't it? If possible at all. yes, it is easier to just go ~x86. Yes, it is very very very hard to go back - easier to reinstall It is actually not that bad... if you are willing to wait a bit. Just keyword all currently installed packages (w. version number) and change ACCEPT_KEYWORD to x86. After a few months (if you are lucky) or a few years (if you are unlucky), x86 will catch up and pass the package versions you have installed. If you want it done yesterday, however, I agree that it is easier to re-install x86. W -- ZAPHOD Hey, this rock... FORDMarble... ZAPHOD Marble... FORDIce-covered marble... ZAPHOD Right... it's as slippery as... as... What's the slipperiest thing you can think of? FORDAt the moment? This marble. ZAPHOD Right. This marble is as slippery as this marble. - Zaphod and Ford trying to get a grip on things in Brontitall, Fit the Tenth. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1069 days, 15:09
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Here's my take on this issue, and I've had this discussion with some people on IRC as well and for the most part I think people will disagree with me. But they are wrong ;-) I'm actually against mixing testing and stable branches. Here's why. People choose stable because they are under the impression that it's somehow safer or less troublesome than testing (or what some people call unstable). I'm not so sure I agree but that's not my argument. My argument is when these people go and then try to get the best of both worlds by inter-marrying the branches. From my experience these people end up with less stable systems than choosing either stable or testing. The problem is that they are mixing software that were not tested or intended to run with each other. And they come into problems even people in the so-called unstable branch don't experience. Recent examples include Xorg and GNOME updates. So these people, and the majority of them are newbies, come to think Gentoo is flaky but it's really their behavior. Unfortunately the Official Handbook tends to encourage this behavior. In theory this should be fine, but in practice it seems to produce less-stable-than-unstable software setups, so I try to discourage people from doing so. Then they laugh at me. But I've been in unstable forever. I never use the stable branch (except for testing ironically) and I remember the days when there was no distinction between stable/testing. Few times I've had problems with an update and the solution is always simple: downgrade the package in question. When I had problems with the cups upgrade, I simply reported a bug and downgraded cups. When I had a problem with findutils, I simply CC'ed myself on the bug and keyworded findutils to stable. To me that's been a lot easier than trying to figure out how to get stable package A and unstable package B to agree on inter-operability/configuration/dependencies/etc. So my advice is: pick and branch and stick with your own kind. It's far fewer headaches in the long run. And unstable isn't really unstable, it's untested. There's a difference.
[gentoo-user] Re: xdm doesn't restart on killed X
In gmane.linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Wednesday 11 November 2009 16:17:45 doki_...@doki-pen.org wrote: In gmane.linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 17:54:48 Doki Pen wrote: I've recently switched from gdm to xdm in an effort to reduce my distro size. The only problem I've run into is that when I kill my X session, xdm doesn't restart automatically. I have to switch to a vtty and type exec sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart. I've read the man pages and googled but can't come up with a solution. Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this issue? When X exists, is xdm still running or has it died too? You can tell when restarting xdm if it gives errors about xdm not running when the stop phase of restart is run xdm is not running after I kill my xsession. It is running after I log in. I tested using ps -Af | grep -i xdm. Ok, so I reckon the init script dies because xdm dies when X exists. is there anything relevant in your messages log file, Xorg.0.log, ~/.xsession- errors and similar logs? From /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X(xorg_backtrace+0x38) [0x812a180] Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting Nothing useful in .xession-errors
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: You may try to call cdrecord -v -checkdrive -V and have a look at the SCSI read buffer command. Unfortanatly I do not know how to deal with the output of the above command. So I am attaching it here (cdrecord0.log) and maybe someaone can find anything unexpected in it. OK, the drive does not support the read buffer command, this is why cdrecord cannot do a DMA speed test. But you have a massive problem in the linux kernel that needs to be investigated. The test unit ready command _cannot_ return a fatal SCSI transport error as long as there is a drive connected. Please start with running the scgcheck command to get some informations on the compliance problems in your linux kernel. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP yes, it is easier to just go ~x86. Yes, it is very very very hard to go back - easier to reinstall Isn't there a lot more work to do to keep it up to date? Seems to me testing packages are going to change more often and as not every one of them will eventually become stable. Isn't it just a lot more electrons burned to keep things emerge -DuN @world clean? I run stable except for portage and eix, and then a couple of audio apps I care about like Ardour and Jack which come from external overlays and aren't tested by the mainline Gentoo guys anyway. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
On Nov 11, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: So my advice is: pick and branch and stick with your own kind. It's far fewer headaches in the long run. And unstable isn't really unstable, it's untested. There's a difference. Also keep in mind that it's the ebuild that is untested. The package is usually what upstream has released as stable. My advice is if you are willing to upgrade at least weekly then go untested, if you are willing to upgrade at least monthly, then go stable, else really be willing to work thru some hard upgrade scenarios. HTH, Roy
[gentoo-user] Re: urgent : chicken-egg problem
On 11/11/2009 01:22 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi,, somehow one of my machines is broken. After uninstalling x11-drivers/ati-drivers eselect opengl set xorg-x11 gives Switching to xorg-x11 OpenGL interface...!!! Error: No proper xorg-x11 or xorg-x11 opengl implementation found Trying to re-emerge media-libs/mesa fails during install Switching to xorg-x11 OpenGL interface...!!! Error: No proper xorg-x11 or xorg-x11 opengl implementation found exiting and trying to re-emerge x11-base/xorg-server fails because of missing file /usr/lib64/libGL.so If the ati-drivers are like my nvidia drivers you many have a dangling symlink at /usr/lib/libGL.so: /usr/lib/libGL.so - This is a symlink to one of the two libs below /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so Try pointing that symlink to the opengl version of libGL.so.
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
On Mittwoch 11 November 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP yes, it is easier to just go ~x86. Yes, it is very very very hard to go back - easier to reinstall Isn't there a lot more work to do to keep it up to date? Seems to me testing packages are going to change more often and as not every one of them will eventually become stable. Isn't it just a lot more electrons burned to keep things emerge -DuN @world clean? I run stable except for portage and eix, and then a couple of audio apps I care about like Ardour and Jack which come from external overlays and aren't tested by the mainline Gentoo guys anyway. - Mark not really. there isn't such a big difference between the daily stabilization and the daily version bump. so you might emerge a few packages more in the same time frame, but the difference is not that big.
[gentoo-user] can't unmerge xfce4
Hi group, When I ran #emerge -C xfce4-meta, portage went through the motions of removing the pkg but when I ran startx to see what happened xfce4 appeared as usual. Same as after a boot. When I run the above command again, portage reports Couldn't find 'null/xfce4' to unmerge...No packages selected for removal by unmerge. xfce4-meta has been removed from the world file but no where else I can see. How do I get rid of it? Maxim
[gentoo-user] troubles with emerge --sync
I'm getting a strange error on one particular box when I try to emerge --sync: rsync error: sibling process crashed (code 15) at main.c(1505) [generator=3.0.6] Retrying... dmesg told me: grsec: From 66.55.54.28: signal 4 sent to /usr/bin/rsync[rsync:30041] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /usr/bin/rsync[rsync:30040] uid/euid: 0/0 gid/egid:0/0 I had done an emerge -uDN world, so it's quite possible that rsync got recompiled in a screwy way. I've tried re-emerging it since then, but without changing whatever went wrong, that didn't prove anything. Can anyone suggest a next step for probing deeper into what happened, or finding a fix? Alexander Clark
Re: [gentoo-user] troubles with emerge --sync
On 11/11/2009 2:01 PM, Alexander Clark wrote: I'm getting a strange error on one particular box when I try to emerge --sync: rsync error: sibling process crashed (code 15) at main.c(1505) [generator=3.0.6] Retrying... dmesg told me: grsec: From 66.55.54.28: signal 4 sent to /usr/bin/rsync[rsync:30041] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /usr/bin/rsync[rsync:30040] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0 I had done an emerge -uDN world, so it's quite possible that rsync got recompiled in a screwy way. I've tried re-emerging it since then, but without changing whatever went wrong, that didn't prove anything. Can anyone suggest a next step for probing deeper into what happened, or finding a fix? Alexander Clark You could just use emerge --webrsync... Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] can't unmerge xfce4
You unmerged the meta package but not its DEPENDs Emerge -av --depclean On Nov 11, 2009 8:56 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, When I ran #emerge -C xfce4-meta, portage went through the motions of removing the pkg but when I ran startx to see what happened xfce4 appeared as usual. Same as after a boot. When I run the above command again, portage reports Couldn't find 'null/xfce4' to unmerge...No packages selected for removal by unmerge. xfce4-meta has been removed from the world file but no where else I can see. How do I get rid of it? Maxim
Re: [gentoo-user] can't unmerge xfce4
Maxim Wexler writes: When I ran #emerge -C xfce4-meta, portage went through the motions of removing the pkg but when I ran startx to see what happened xfce4 appeared as usual. Same as after a boot. When I run the above command again, portage reports Couldn't find 'null/xfce4' to unmerge...No packages selected for removal by unmerge. xfce4-meta has been removed from the world file but no where else I can see. How do I get rid of it? emerge -a --depclean perhaps? Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Font recommendations for netbook?
On 11/10/09, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Fluxbox is blowing up on my new machine because it can't find any fixed fonts. I just realized that merely building xorg-server doesn't download any fonts. Looking at /usr/portage/media-fonts I see a whole bunch of options. Any experiences good/bad with any of them? Remember that this will be on an 11.6 netbook, currently running 1024x768, and hopefully 1366x768 one of these days. And the less processor power it requires to render, the better. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I found this site helpful to set up spionic.ttf. And I have only xorg-server and only the default window mgr that comes with X. http://www.textkit.com/greek-latin-forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=3644 Maybe it'll suit your case. mw
Re: [gentoo-user] troubles with emerge --sync
The remote end cut you off. Try another mirror. On Nov 11, 2009 9:01 PM, Alexander Clark acl...@wayfm.com wrote: I'm getting a strange error on one particular box when I try to emerge --sync: rsync error: sibling process crashed (code 15) at main.c(1505) [generator=3.0.6] Retrying... dmesg told me: grsec: From 66.55.54.28: signal 4 sent to /usr/bin/rsync[rsync:30041] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /usr/bin/rsync[rsync:30040] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0 I had done an emerge -uDN world, so it's quite possible that rsync got recompiled in a screwy way. I've tried re-emerging it since then, but without changing whatever went wrong, that didn't prove anything. Can anyone suggest a next step for probing deeper into what happened, or finding a fix? Alexander Clark
Re: [gentoo-user] Font recommendations for netbook?
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Fluxbox is blowing up on my new machine because it can't find any fixed fonts. I just realized that merely building xorg-server doesn't download any fonts. Looking at /usr/portage/media-fonts I see a whole bunch of options. Any experiences good/bad with any of them? Remember that this will be on an 11.6 netbook, currently running 1024x768, and hopefully 1366x768 one of these days. And the less processor power it requires to render, the better. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org Font rendering, typically, takes so little processing it'll be the least of your worries if you find something being sluggish. I have dell mini 9 here with flux running beautifully on all 1024x600 I have to play with, and am using whatever gtk picked up as Sans in 8pt for all my gtk apps, .fluxbox/overlay set to override all fonts with sans-8, and just glancing at my installed fonts, I believe that's mapping to dejavu's sans serif font. All my installed fonts, at the moment, I have: media-fonts/corefonts media-fonts/dejavu media-fonts/font-cursor-misc media-fonts/font-misc-misc media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std And those could be slimmed down a bit, really. I've run 6pt, here and there, but decided it best not to ruin my eyesight by staring at a glossy screen and deciphering that small of text (was still quite crisp, I'm still impressed by this display). -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] can't unmerge xfce4
On 11/11/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You unmerged the meta package but not its DEPENDs Emerge -av --depclean OK, I re-emerged xfce4-meta, and ran emerge -av --depclean xfce4-meta(You *did* mean to add the pkg name, I presume). The wheels churned: Calculating dependencies ... done!...Unmerging xfce4-base/xfce3-meta-4.6.1...No package files given...Grabbing a set...Packages installed: 436...Number removed: 1 xfce4 stil appears after running startx. revdep-rebuild -p finds linking...consistent mw
Re: [gentoo-user] can't unmerge xfce4
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/11/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You unmerged the meta package but not its DEPENDs Emerge -av --depclean OK, I re-emerged xfce4-meta, and ran emerge -av --depclean xfce4-meta(You *did* mean to add the pkg name, I presume). If you run depclean without any package name, it will remove all orphaned packages on your system, which I think is what you wanted to do. (Since you removed the meta package, all packages that it pulled in which is not needed by any other package is now an orphan)
Re: [gentoo-user] troubles with emerge --sync
2009/11/11 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: The remote end cut you off. Try another mirror. Is this a know infrastructure issue. It seems to happening a lot lately. I'm wary of retrying lest I end up on a ban list. -- Alex, homepage: http://www.bennee.com/~alex/ http://www.half-llama.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:03:39PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] OK, the drive does not support the read buffer command, this is why cdrecord cannot do a DMA speed test. But you have a massive problem in the linux kernel that needs to be investigated. The test unit ready command _cannot_ return a fatal SCSI transport error as long as there is a drive connected. Please start with running the scgcheck command to get some informations on the compliance problems in your linux kernel. The output of scgcheck is attached to this message. Romildo # scgcheck Scgcheck 2.01.01a67 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) SCSI user level transport library ABI checker. Copyright (C) 1998-2008 Jörg Schilling ** Checking whether your implementation supports to scan the SCSI bus. Trying to open device: '(NULL POINTER)'. Using libscg version 'schily-0.9' Max DMA buffer size: 32768 scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'ATA ' 'FUJITSU MHZ2250B' '0085' Disk 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * scsibus3: 3,0,0 300) 'TEAC' 'DVD+-RW DVW28SLC' 'A.06' Removable CD-ROM 3,1,0 301) * 3,2,0 302) * 3,3,0 303) * 3,4,0 304) * 3,5,0 305) * 3,6,0 306) * 3,7,0 307) * -- SCSI scan bus test PASSED For the next test we need to open a single SCSI device. Best results will be obtained if you specify a modern CD-ROM drive. No target specified, trying to find one... Using dev=3,0,0. Enter SCSI device name [3,0,0]: Trying to open device: '3,0,0'. Using libscg version 'schily-0.9' Max DMA buffer size: 131072 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'TEAC' Identifikation : 'DVD+-RW DVW28SLC' Revision : 'A.06' Ready to start test for second SCSI open? Enter CR to continue: First SCSI open OK - device usable ** Checking for second SCSI open. Second SCSI open for same device succeeded, 1 additional file descriptor(s) used. Second SCSI open is usable Closing second SCSI. Checking first SCSI. First SCSI open is still usable -- Second SCSI open test PASSED. First SCSI open is still usable Ready to start test for succeeded command? Enter CR to continue: ** Checking for succeeded SCSI command. Executing 'inquiry' command on Bus 3 Target 0, Lun 0 timeout 40s CDB: 12 00 00 00 24 00 cmd finished after 0.004s timeout 40s Inquiry Data : 05 80 05 32 5B 00 00 00 54 45 41 43 20 20 20 20 44 56 44 2B 2D 52 57 20 44 56 57 32 38 53 4C 43 41 2E 30 36 -- SCSI succeeded command test PASSED Ready to start test for failing command? Enter CR to continue: ** Testing for failed SCSI command. Inquiry did not fail. This may be because the firmware in your drive is buggy. If the current drive is not a CD-ROM drive please restart the test utility. Otherwise remove any medium from the drive. Ready to start test for failing command? Enter CR to continue: scgcheck: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.007s timeout 40s -- SCSI failed command test PASSED Ready to start test for sense data count? Enter CR to continue: ** Testing for SCSI sense data count. ** Testing if at least CCS_SENSE_LEN (18) is supported... Sense Data: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00 00 00 -- Method 0x00: expected: 18 reported: 16 max found: 13 Sense Data: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00 FF FF -- Method 0xFF: expected: 18 reported: 16 max found: 16 -- Minimum standard (CCS) sense length failed -- Wanted 18 sense bytes, got (16) ** Testing for 32 bytes of sense data... Sense Data: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 -- Method 0x00: expected: 32 reported: 16 max found: 13 Sense Data: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS 1005HA: some strange bugs [solved]
091110 Philip Webb wrote: I've got my netbook basically set up to do what I need, but there are 3 problems remaining, which seem to be fairly basic bugs. I've managed to solve all 3 or actually 2 , as it turned out (smile). (1) I've already mentioned the problem of compiling Lm_sensors. Dale refered to Bug 282261, whose conclusion seems to be to try the latest testing version 3.1.1 , which I will do tomorrow. 3.1.1 did compile, but when I ran 'sensors-detect' it couldn't find any advised common on laptops, where it's handled by ACPI. So I had another look at Gkrellm when I clicked the little triangle, it did in fact show a temperatures sensor 'thermalzone/TZ00', which is shown in the display after it has been enabled: '51 C'. So no need for Lm-sensors or Xmbmon: unmerged the temperature still shows. (2) Fluxbox is working nicely, as it does on my desktop machine ANB3, but I thought I'ld have a look at Xfce, which looks nice in SystemRescue. Xfce opens as root, but not as user ! -- It ought to be a permissions error, but there's no sign where it might be happening. There's an error msg Module fbcon not found, but that may not be the real problem. Indeed, that is not the real problem, even tho' tagged 'FATAL'. I found Gentoo bug 275659, which says Xfdesktop needs access to Hal's pluggable devices, ie in /etc/group 'plugdev ... user'. When I fixed that, it still choked, but now showed a sensible msg: xfce4-session: can't open ~/.ICEauthority : permission denied. Yes, it was owned by root ! -- 'chown' fixed it Xfce started normally. It remains possible that ~/.ICEauthority wb wrongly owned at next boot, but at least I can get Xfce started look into the cause if it happens. (3) Dillo can't start dpi daemon (no such problem on ANB3). I can't find anything sensible have no idea what that daemon mb. After fixing Xfce, Dillo also started normally, so it looks as if it was the same problem. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] strange delays with Xorg-x11-7.4-r1
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 13:34:49 Philip Webb wrote: 09 Mick wrote: xpdf takes less that 1 second to pop up when started from a terminal in Fluxbox, but I am not running xorg-x11. What are you running to support graphics for Fluxbox ?? Is this what you mean, or are you talking about the drivers that I use? == [I] x11-base/xorg-server Installed versions: 1.6.3.901-r2(16:38:59 10/06/09)(hal nptl sdl xorg - debug -dmx -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -tslib) Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/ Description: X.Org X servers == -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] troubles with emerge --sync
The remote end cut you off. Try another mirror. Is this a know infrastructure issue. It seems to happening a lot lately. I'm wary of retrying lest I end up on a ban list. I've retried a lot. Maybe I ended up on the ban list. What I really need to do is set up a local mirror since I've got a rack full of Gentoo servers. In any case, emerge-webrsync works for now (thanks Marcus, not sure why I didn't think of that). It seems there are some deeper issues, however, as gcc and emacs are failing to emerge. Signal 4 again with emacs. Hm. Think I might try scaling back my CFLAGS. Alexander Clark
Re: [gentoo-user] strange delays with Xorg-x11-7.4-r1
09 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 11 November 2009 13:34:49 Philip Webb wrote: 09 Mick wrote: xpdf takes less that 1 second to pop up when started from a terminal in Fluxbox, but I am not running xorg-x11. What are you running to support graphics for Fluxbox ?? Is this what you mean, or are you talking about the drivers that I use? == [I] x11-base/xorg-server Installed versions: 1.6.3.901-r2(16:38:59 10/06/09)(hal nptl sdl xorg - debug -dmx -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -tslib) Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/ Description: X.Org X servers == So you are running Xorg-x11 ! -- sorry for the quibble. There is a problem somewhere it mb a small fix for my machine it wb nice to track it down if others are not experiencing it. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Roy Wright schrieb: Also keep in mind that it's the ebuild that is untested. The package is usually what upstream has released as stable. I haven't yet looked at it that way, good point. My advice is if you are willing to upgrade at least weekly then go untested, if you are willing to upgrade at least monthly, then go stable, else really be willing to work thru some hard upgrade scenarios. Hmm, and this now as I just got somehow happy with my strange mixture of stable and unstable ;-) I am now looking at some # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 emerge -avuDN world ;-) Thanks, greetings, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Alex Schuster schrieb: Hi there! [snip]Or net-misc/youtube-dl, which changes quite frequently to adopt to youtube changes, and I want to always have the newest version. [snip] Hi, see bgo 286366 and report you are fine with it. Maybe it will become stable, then. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286366 Even better, also report a new bug as stablrq for youtube-dl-2009.09.13 kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Albert Hopkins schrieb: [snip] But they are wrong ;-) I'm actually against mixing testing and stable branches. Here's why. People choose stable because they are under the impression that it's somehow safer or less troublesome than testing (or what some people call unstable). I'm not so sure I agree but that's not my argument. My argument is when these people go and then try to get the best of both worlds by inter-marrying the branches. From my experience these people end up with less stable systems than choosing either stable or testing. The problem is that they are mixing software that were not tested or intended to run with each other. And they come into problems even people in the so-called unstable branch don't experience. Recent examples include Xorg and GNOME updates. So these people, and the majority of them are newbies, come to think Gentoo is flaky but it's really their behavior. [snip] Hi, this for shure is not right, if you are only running few testing programs. I'd never run ~amd64 just for youtube-dl to be working fine. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] strange delays with Xorg-x11-7.4-r1
Philip Webb writes: There is a problem somewhere it mb a small fix for my machine it wb nice to track it down if others are not experiencing it. Try 'strace xterm' in a terminal with long scrollback history, press the enter key a couple of times when it hangs, and analyze the output at these positions later. Or send these parts to the list, maybe someone here will spot what's going on. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
whatever you decide to do. Please turn on the buildpkg option in make.conf. It is a GOOD THING on stable, but even more so on unstable. Will save you a lot of blood sweat and tears.
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: I am now looking at some # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 emerge -avuDN world This gives me 464 packages (441 upgrades, 15 new, 6 in new slots, 2 reinstalls, 4 uninstalls) ... phew ... maybe tomorrow ... ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] strange delays with Xorg-x11-7.4-r1
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 16:41 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 09 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 11 November 2009 13:34:49 Philip Webb wrote: 09 Mick wrote: xpdf takes less that 1 second to pop up when started from a terminal in Fluxbox, but I am not running xorg-x11. What are you running to support graphics for Fluxbox ?? Is this what you mean, or are you talking about the drivers that I use? == [I] x11-base/xorg-server ... So you are running Xorg-x11 ! -- sorry for the quibble. For the record xorg-x11 is the meta-package that pulls in lots of stuff, xorg-server is the minimal ebuild that xorg-x11 would pull in. Phillip, what version did xorg-server go from/to when you upgraded? the testing nvidia-drivers look a bit suspicious, is it worth seeing what the problem was with the stable version? Why did you pick 185.18.36-r1? Is there a requirement for the 18x series? The latest unstable (but not masked) is 190.42-r2. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. - Voltaire
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
On 11/11/2009 5:47 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: I am now looking at some # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 emerge -avuDN world This gives me 464 packages (441 upgrades, 15 new, 6 in new slots, 2 reinstalls, 4 uninstalls) ... phew ... maybe tomorrow ... ;-) How 'bout overnight :p That's what I'm doing, after reading that bit about the ebuilds and not the packages being unstable :D Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:00 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am now looking at some # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 emerge -avuDN world This gives me 464 packages (441 upgrades, 15 new, 6 in new slots, 2 reinstalls, 4 uninstalls) ... phew ... maybe tomorrow ... I'd emerge @system first, then reboot and make sure everything works correctly before updating the rest of @world. -- Neil Bothwick Downloading - A quick way of catching a virus from anywhere in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] strange delays with Xorg-x11-7.4-r1
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 12:12 +, Mick wrote: The localhost issue in /etc/hosts only affected KDE as far as I recall. Unfortunately not. I've had it a few times with gnome, but not since the early days... I think it was an X issue, not related to the DE, afair :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au This door is baroquen, please wiggle Handel. (If I wiggle Handel, will it wiggle Bach?) -- Found on a door in the MSU music building
Re: [gentoo-user] troubles with emerge --sync
On 11/11/2009 4:10 PM, Alexander Clark wrote: In any case, emerge-webrsync works for now (thanks Marcus, not sure why I didn't think of that). Glad I could help. However, a better solution is probably needed in the long run. Marcus
[gentoo-user] Confused about moving to ~x86 and the openrc-migration doc page...
Hi! I am moving to ~x86 from x86, and was wondering if the instructions at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml apply to me. I installed my system less than 3 weeks ago and was wondering if I am already using baselayout-2 and openrc, and whether I need to do what that page says. Thanks! Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about moving to ~x86 and the openrc-migration doc page...
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:18:34PM -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote: I am moving to ~x86 from x86, and was wondering if the instructions at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml apply to me. I installed my system less than 3 weeks ago and was wondering if I am already using baselayout-2 and openrc, and whether I need to do what that page says. If you have moved from x86 to ~x86, you definitely need to do this. baselayout-1 is x86 and baselayout-2/openrc are ~x86. -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org pgpyX4XuyC1mh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] (SOLVED!) Confused about moving to ~x86 and the openrc-migration doc page...
On 11/11/2009 7:31 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:18:34PM -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote: I am moving to ~x86 from x86, and was wondering if the instructions at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml apply to me. I installed my system less than 3 weeks ago and was wondering if I am already using baselayout-2 and openrc, and whether I need to do what that page says. If you have moved from x86 to ~x86, you definitely need to do this. baselayout-1 is x86 and baselayout-2/openrc are ~x86. Thank you for clearing that up! Marcus
[gentoo-user] Layman and eix-sync
Hi, I'm using layman to keep KDE 3.5 installed and have a question. I run eix-sync to sync my tree. From what I see, it appears it also syncs the layman part as well. Does it? This is what I see: [0] gentoo /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata-flat) Reading 100% [1] kde-sunset /usr/local/portage/layman/kde-sunset (cache: parse|ebuild*#metadata-flat#assign) Reading 100% I just want to make sure I am seeing this correctly. While I am here, I plan to get rid of all the layman stuff when KDE 4 is ready enough for me to use. Do I just run layman -d all and unmerge layman? Does that get the job done? Thanks much. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Font recommendations for netbook?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:25:40PM -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote
I have dell mini 9 here with flux running beautifully on all 1024x600
Speaking of Fluxbox, I have it installed. I've experimented with some
fonts. I find that regardless of the fonts I install, xterm runs a
tiny, almost unreadable font. And what's worse, I *CANNOT* resize the
font. xterm totally ignores anything I set by hitting
{CTRL}{RIGHT-CLICK} inside an xterm. Any ideas?
--
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] 2 kernel config questions
1) If I enable x86 PAT support can I drop MTRR support? They seem to duplicate function. 2) I notice that scsi_wait_scan *ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS* shows up as a module when I compile. Is there a way to compile it in? It does not show up as a menu item anywhere. Even if I manually go into .config with vim, and change the entry to... CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=y it *STILL* builds as a module. I've de-crapified my kernel, but what it needs, I prefer to build into the kernel itself. My bootup menu has 2 entries. The first (default) is Production, and the second is Experimental. I do my screwing around with the experimental version. If it dies during bootup, I can always go back to production, and restore from a backup copy of .config. If the experimental kernel runs OK for a couple of weeks, I promote it to production. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Font recommendations for netbook?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:25:40PM -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote
I have dell mini 9 here with flux running beautifully on all 1024x600
Speaking of Fluxbox, I have it installed. I've experimented with some
fonts. I find that regardless of the fonts I install, xterm runs a
tiny, almost unreadable font. And what's worse, I *CANNOT* resize the
font. xterm totally ignores anything I set by hitting
{CTRL}{RIGHT-CLICK} inside an xterm. Any ideas?
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Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
setting the font and size in ~/.Xresources should do the trick.
Quite a few good pointers here (one of the early hits on google when I
realized I set everything *except* font for aterm on my netbook here):
http://fixunix.com/debian/132898-xterm-font-size.html
obviously, if it's ignoring your selections on the menu, the bits on
that thread about setting available font options on the menu aren't
much help, but much of the rest should help.
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Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Marcus Wanner schrieb: How 'bout overnight :p That's what I'm doing, after reading that bit about the ebuilds and not the packages being unstable :D Sure, me too :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Neil Bothwick schrieb: I'd emerge @system first, then reboot and make sure everything works correctly before updating the rest of @world. Good point, yes ... hmm, it was half way through @world ... now I do @system and will see what happens. Thanks for the hint, I should have thought of that.
Re: [gentoo-user] Layman and eix-sync
Dale wrote: Hi, I'm using layman to keep KDE 3.5 installed and have a question. I run eix-sync to sync my tree. From what I see, it appears it also syncs the layman part as well. Does it? This is what I see: [0] gentoo /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata-flat) Reading 100%[1] kde-sunset /usr/local/portage/layman/kde-sunset (cache: parse|ebuild*#metadata-flat#assign) Reading 100% I just want to make sure I am seeing this correctly. I dont't think so. eix-sync runs an eix-update after emerge --sync. It just rereads the overlay, without layman -S in advance. You have to do that manually. While I am here, I plan to get rid of all the layman stuff when KDE 4 is ready enough for me to use. Do I just run layman -d all and unmerge layman? Does that get the job done? Thanks much. Dale :-) :-) Maybe you want install kde4 first and then run emerge --depclean (after removing the overlay). In that way you had an backup if kde4 fails. Johannes
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 kernel config questions
On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Walter Dnes wrote: 1) If I enable x86 PAT support can I drop MTRR support? They seem to duplicate function. no
[gentoo-user] KDE4 equivalent for kwifimanager-3.5
Hi All, I would use kde-base/kwifimanager-3.5.10 every now and then to check networks, IP address, or strength of signal when I would not use iwconfig or iwlist. This will be removed soon, so what is the KDE4 equivalent? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
