Re: [gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio
Am Montag 22 Februar 2010 17:42:22 schrieb David: Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Just tried this tool, but it seems to be a complete failure. Just gives a box with connection refused, but no information what it tries to connect to. The pulseaudio-deamon itself is running, and I can connect to it via pacmd without any problem. Alex I really don't know what was going on yesterday, but after getting rid of the ~/.pulse directory and logging out and in again, this particular problem vanished. NB: I started the deamon as user, not as root. I don't use it system wide, here are the guides I used; http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789181-highlight-pulseaudio.html http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup The original problem is still not solved: How do I tell pulseaudio that the sound from application XX shall go to device YY ??? Alex
[gentoo-user] customized init script
Hi,
I have a customized script.
hosta# /etc/init.d/scriptrunner start
* Starting ScriptRunner ...
/sbin/start-stop-daemon: Unable to start
/usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/startup.sh: Exec format error (Exec format
error)[ ok ]
hosta#
My customized script is as below
#!/sbin/runscript
# Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/www-servers/tomcat/files/5.0.27/tomcat.init,v
1.3 2004/10/08 13:38:08 axxo Exp $
start() {
ebegin Starting ScriptRunner
start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/startup.sh
sleep 5
eend $?
}
stop() {
ebegin Stopping ScriptRunner
start-stop-daemon --stop --exec /usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/shutdown.sh
sleep 5
eend $?
}
Please suggest/guide
Thanks,
Kaushal
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:42:25 +, Stroller wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I took it more as KDE programs are intended to be run on KDE, so don't complain if they don't work as you want elsewhere. So if it works and you are happy with it, why change? I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. I haven't done usenet in a while, but when I did I preferred Pan to Knode. While I am a KDE fan, I do find myself using quite a few GTK apps on my KDE desktop. -- Neil Bothwick The considered application of terror is also a form of communication. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] customized init script
On 23.02.2010 09:41, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: * Starting ScriptRunner ... /sbin/start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/startup.sh: Exec format error (Exec format error)[ ok ] Looks like your startup.sh is not an executable. As I assume startup.sh is a shell script. So it has to use #!/bin/bash as its first line and has to be marked executable (at least chmod u+rx startup.sh).
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
Peter Ruskin wrote: On Tuesday 23 February 2010 05:42:25 Stroller wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and open Knode in X11. I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with. I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Stroller. I've always used pan in preference to knode. I don't use knode or usenet, but am I missing something? Can't kde4 applications be used on Mac these days?
Re: [gentoo-user] customized init script
Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
Hi,
I have a customized script.
hosta# /etc/init.d/scriptrunner start
* Starting ScriptRunner ...
/sbin/start-stop-daemon: Unable to start
/usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/startup.sh: Exec format error (Exec format
error)[ ok ]
hosta#
My customized script is as below
#!/sbin/runscript
# Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/www-servers/tomcat/files/5.0.27/tomcat.init,v
1.3 2004/10/08 13:38:08 axxo Exp $
start() {
ebegin Starting ScriptRunner
start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/startup.sh
sleep 5
eend $?
}
stop() {
ebegin Stopping ScriptRunner
start-stop-daemon --stop --exec /usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/shutdown.sh
sleep 5
eend $?
}
Please suggest/guide
Thanks,
Kaushal
Looks like startup.sh is invalid.
Perhaps check what 'file /usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/startup.sh' returns.
Amit
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 02/23/2010 07:42 AM, Stroller wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and open Knode in X11. I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with. I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. Any suggestions? I'm on KDE4 but I use Thunderbird for both Usenet (including this mailing list through GMane's mailing-list-to-Usenet interface) and email. I like the simplicity and using only one app for both.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:11:40 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I'm on KDE4 but I use Thunderbird for both Usenet (including this mailing list through GMane's mailing-list-to-Usenet interface) and email. I like the simplicity and using only one app for both. Why are you passing the mail through a conversion gateway only to read it in a mail client? Wouldn't subscribing directly be even more simple? -- Neil Bothwick SITCOM: Single Income, Two Children, Oppressive Mortgage signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 02/23/2010 12:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:11:40 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I'm on KDE4 but I use Thunderbird for both Usenet (including this mailing list through GMane's mailing-list-to-Usenet interface) and email. I like the simplicity and using only one app for both. Why are you passing the mail through a conversion gateway only to read it in a mail client? Wouldn't subscribing directly be even more simple? No, because then I would get all the mail in my inbox and I would be the one responsible for filtering it; a total waste on bandwidth and my time. GMane does that for me instead. I am currently subscribed to 31 mailing lists on GMane. I don't even want to imagine what would happen if I would receive email from all of them (and 90% of the posts would not interest me anyway, so why recieve them in the first place?) It's just not practical. A Usenet-like front-end is the perfect solution here; a mailing list is very similar to a Usenet newsgroup and that's why this approach is the most practical one. And even if I were subscribed to only one list, it would still be the best way to access it; even though the traffic is much lower when compared to 31 lists, but it's still high enough to get annoying with something landing on your inbox every 10 minutes or so, even stuff you don't intend to read. With Usenet, you only get what you're interested in, and you get it in a way that is very easy to access and browse though.
Re: [gentoo-user] customized init script
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 08:41:20 Kaushal Shriyan wrote: /usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/startup.sh: Exec format error When I've got that error it's been because I'd tried to chroot from a 32-bit system into a 64-bit, or vice versa. Naturally, one width of bash won't run on an other-width system. I don't know how this helps you, but it's all I can offer. :-( -- Rgds Peter.
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 02/23/2010 01:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/23/2010 12:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:11:40 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I'm on KDE4 but I use Thunderbird for both Usenet (including this mailing list through GMane's mailing-list-to-Usenet interface) and email. I like the simplicity and using only one app for both. Why are you passing the mail through a conversion gateway only to read it in a mail client? Wouldn't subscribing directly be even more simple? No, because then I would get all the mail in my inbox and I would be the one responsible for filtering it; a total waste on bandwidth and my time. GMane does that for me instead. Just to make my point more clear: http://i50.tinypic.com/15ow2g8.png All of these under the GMane groups are mailing lists, but they appear just like Usenet newsgroups. I can't imagine any easier way to easily deal with 30+ mailing list subscriptions.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 23 February 2010 11:48, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 02/23/2010 01:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/23/2010 12:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:11:40 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I'm on KDE4 but I use Thunderbird for both Usenet (including this mailing list through GMane's mailing-list-to-Usenet interface) and email. I like the simplicity and using only one app for both. Why are you passing the mail through a conversion gateway only to read it in a mail client? Wouldn't subscribing directly be even more simple? No, because then I would get all the mail in my inbox and I would be the one responsible for filtering it; a total waste on bandwidth and my time. GMane does that for me instead. Just to make my point more clear: http://i50.tinypic.com/15ow2g8.png All of these under the GMane groups are mailing lists, but they appear just like Usenet newsgroups. I can't imagine any easier way to easily deal with 30+ mailing list subscriptions. Also, unlike when using a mail client, with usenet you don't have to download the message/thread if you're not interested in reading it. Back to the OP's topic, I am also using Knode (but not for this M/L). If you set your USE flags right you should be able to continue using Kmail/Knode without some of the dependencies that the full KDE4 desktop requires. However, I don't know if from KDE4.4 changes on dependencies (as per recent thread on semantic-desktop) mean that more of these will be pulled in. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio
Hi, On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 16:08, Alexander Puchmayr alexander.puchm...@linznet.at wrote: The original problem is still not solved: How do I tell pulseaudio that the sound from application XX shall go to device YY ??? Usually the pavucontrol app does this. When a call starts, open pavucontrol (or Applications - Sound Video - PulseAudio Volume Control), find your Skype call in the Streams list, right-click and pick the device you want that call to use. As the note at the bottom of the Streams tab says, this appears to only modify the output device, not the input device. That would explain why Skype stubbornly continued to use only the built-in mic in my case. Hope that helps, Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:39:48 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Why are you passing the mail through a conversion gateway only to read it in a mail client? Wouldn't subscribing directly be even more simple? No, because then I would get all the mail in my inbox and I would be the one responsible for filtering it; a total waste on bandwidth and my time. GMane does that for me instead. Well, setting up filters is hardly taxing or time consuming, but I see your point. I am currently subscribed to 31 mailing lists on GMane. I don't even want to imagine what would happen if I would receive email from all of them (and 90% of the posts would not interest me anyway, so why recieve them in the first place?) It's just not practical. A Usenet-like front-end is the perfect solution here; a mailing list is very similar to a Usenet newsgroup and that's why this approach is the most practical one. And even if I were subscribed to only one list, it would still be the best way to access it; even though the traffic is much lower when compared to 31 lists, but it's still high enough to get annoying with something landing on your inbox every 10 minutes or so, even stuff you don't intend to read. With Usenet, you only get what you're interested in, and you get it in a way that is very easy to access and browse though. With the downside being that the process is slower, as you have to download each message or thread as you want to read it. Contrast this with having email delivered whether you are reading it or not and being filtered at the moment of arrival so it is instantly available, sorted into folders, when you start up your client. However, this convenience uses more bandwidth, so if that is worth more to you than your time, using Usenet for selective reading does make sense. -- Neil Bothwick furbling, v.: Having to wander through a maze of ropes at an airport or bank even when you are the only person in line. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:48:03 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://i50.tinypic.com/15ow2g8.png All of these under the GMane groups are mailing lists, but they appear just like Usenet newsgroups. I can't imagine any easier way to easily deal with 30+ mailing list subscriptions. That looks just like my mailboxes do :) -- Neil Bothwick Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 02/23/2010 03:08 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:39:48 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I am currently subscribed to 31 mailing lists on GMane. I don't even want to imagine what would happen if I would receive email from all of them (and 90% of the posts would not interest me anyway, so why recieve them in the first place?) It's just not practical. A Usenet-like front-end is the perfect solution here; a mailing list is very similar to a Usenet newsgroup and that's why this approach is the most practical one. And even if I were subscribed to only one list, it would still be the best way to access it; even though the traffic is much lower when compared to 31 lists, but it's still high enough to get annoying with something landing on your inbox every 10 minutes or so, even stuff you don't intend to read. With Usenet, you only get what you're interested in, and you get it in a way that is very easy to access and browse though. With the downside being that the process is slower, as you have to download each message or thread as you want to read it. Contrast this with having email delivered whether you are reading it or not and being filtered at the moment of arrival so it is instantly available, sorted into folders, when you start up your client. However, this convenience uses more bandwidth, so if that is worth more to you than your time, using Usenet for selective reading does make sense. No, each message gets downloaded in under 1 second; it immediately appears when you click on it. It's blindingly fast. No surprise though, since it's just text. However, downloading thousands of messages per day that I don't intent to read is a waste of bandwidth. It's not so much about time, it's about volume. You and I do the same thing in the end. The difference is that you waste bandwidth, need to set up filters every time you subscribe to a new list, need to unsubscribe when you don't want to receive email anymore, need hard disk space to store all the downloaded messages, don't have access to messages from the time you weren't subscribed yet, and probably more I can't think of right now. So in the end, we end up doing the same thing, by I do it in a saner way that was designed to do exactly that. :) It appears it only has pros and no cons, so I don't see a reason to use email instead.
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio [SOLVED]
Am Dienstag 23 Februar 2010 13:48:29 schrieb Mike Mazur: Hi, Usually the pavucontrol app does this. When a call starts, open pavucontrol (or Applications - Sound Video - PulseAudio Volume Control), find your Skype call in the Streams list, right-click and pick the device you want that call to use. Aaaahh! The trick is to start a call (echo123 for example), then use pavucontrol. Then you see the skype-specific streams which you can re-assign. As the note at the bottom of the Streams tab says, this appears to only modify the output device, not the input device. That would explain why Skype stubbornly continued to use only the built-in mic in my case. Hope that helps, Yes, that solved the problem :-) Thanks a lot! Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:59:33 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: You and I do the same thing in the end. The difference is that you waste bandwidth, need to set up filters every time you subscribe to a new list Which takes about ten seconds usually. , need to unsubscribe when you don't want to receive email anymore, Which takes about half that time, and both of these are infrequent occurrences. For lists that I had only a transient interest in, I would look at usenet versions. need hard disk space to store all the downloaded messages, don't have access to messages from the time you weren't subscribed yet, No, but I do have access to Google :) So in the end, we end up doing the same thing, by I do it in a saner way that was designed to do exactly that. :) No, you do it in a different way that suits your needs. That doesn't make you right and people with other needs wrong. It just illustrates the benefits of choice. I did not insult your choice, why assume that you know better than me what I need? It appears it only has pros and no cons, so I don't see a reason to use email instead. How do you read messages without an Internet connection? Everything has pros and cons. -- Neil Bothwick Walk softly and carry a fully charged phazer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 2010-02-23, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: With the downside being that the process is slower, as you have to download each message or thread as you want to read it. Contrast this with having email delivered whether you are reading it or not and being filtered at the moment of arrival so it is instantly available, sorted into folders, when you start up your client. I get the impression you always read the mailing lists on a single machine? I read Gmane's lists from 4-5 different machines and locations. Duplicating all that mail locally on all those machines would be a pain. However, this convenience uses more bandwidth, so if that is worth more to you than your time, using Usenet for selective reading does make sense. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Hello... IRON at CURTAIN? Send over a visi.comSAUSAGE PIZZA! World War III? No thanks!
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 2010-02-23, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 02/23/2010 01:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/23/2010 12:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Why are you passing the mail through a conversion gateway only to read it in a mail client? Wouldn't subscribing directly be even more simple? No, because then I would get all the mail in my inbox and I would be the one responsible for filtering it; a total waste on bandwidth and my time. GMane does that for me instead. Just to make my point more clear: http://i50.tinypic.com/15ow2g8.png All of these under the GMane groups are mailing lists, but they appear just like Usenet newsgroups. I can't imagine any easier way to easily deal with 30+ mailing list subscriptions. I too use Gmane to read all mailing lists, but I use a dedicated news client (slrn) instead of a combined e-mail/news client. I definitely don't want all those e-mailes coming through my in-box where _I've_ got to filter, sort, and archive them. I'd much rather let gmane handle that. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! BARBARA STANWYCK makes at me nervous!! visi.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and open Knode in X11. I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with. I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. Any suggestions? For textual usenet i use mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird. For binary usenet I use net-nntp/bnr2.
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 02/23/2010 05:15 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:59:33 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: You and I do the same thing in the end. The difference is that you waste bandwidth, need to set up filters every time you subscribe to a new list Which takes about ten seconds usually. 10 is more than 0 :D , need to unsubscribe when you don't want to receive email anymore, Which takes about half that time, and both of these are infrequent occurrences. For lists that I had only a transient interest in, I would look at usenet versions. And when later you want to subscribe again... need hard disk space to store all the downloaded messages, don't have access to messages from the time you weren't subscribed yet, No, but I do have access to Google :) Yes, but this requires to go to Google. I have the messages right there in front of me. So in the end, we end up doing the same thing, by I do it in a saner way that was designed to do exactly that. :) No, you do it in a different way that suits your needs. That doesn't make you right and people with other needs wrong. It just illustrates the benefits of choice. I did not insult your choice, why assume that you know better than me what I need? No, that wasn't my intention. All I'm saying in the end is that people stick to the ways they are used to do their tasks. There might be better options out there, but it requires getting used to those new options so they usually don't bother. I just though I'd mention the stuff here so people actually know the option exists and has saved me from quite some annoyances I had to deal with in the past. It appears it only has pros and no cons, so I don't see a reason to use email instead. How do you read messages without an Internet connection? Everything has pros and cons. You got me with that one :) Just because I don't have this problem doesn't mean no else does either.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:48:35 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I get the impression you always read the mailing lists on a single machine? I read Gmane's lists from 4-5 different machines and locations. Duplicating all that mail locally on all those machines would be a pain. No, I read them from a number of machines but using a single server that handles all the filtering too. -- Neil Bothwick Theory is when you know everything, but nothing works. Reality is when everything works, but you don't know why. However, usually theory and reality are mixed together : Nothing works, and nobody knows why not. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:25:45 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Which takes about ten seconds usually. 10 is more than 0 :D Not for large values of 0 :) , need to unsubscribe when you don't want to receive email anymore, Which takes about half that time, and both of these are infrequent occurrences. For lists that I had only a transient interest in, I would look at usenet versions. And when later you want to subscribe again... I'm not that indecisive... at least, I don't think I am ;-) need hard disk space to store all the downloaded messages, don't have access to messages from the time you weren't subscribed yet, No, but I do have access to Google :) Yes, but this requires to go to Google. I have the messages right there in front of me. What, all of them? You still need to search for old messages and if they predate your subscribing you are only searching for specific information, not particular threads. Or are you referring to backtracking a thread you joined midway through? For that, online archives are useful. No, that wasn't my intention. All I'm saying in the end is that people stick to the ways they are used to do their tasks. There might be better options out there, but it requires getting used to those new options so they usually don't bother. I just though I'd mention the stuff here so people actually know the option exists and has saved me from quite some annoyances I had to deal with in the past. Fair enough. How do you read messages without an Internet connection? Everything has pros and cons. You got me with that one :) Just because I don't have this problem doesn't mean no else does either. You are permanently wired to the Internet? Don't you ever go out? :P -- Neil Bothwick Windows to CPU: Don't rush me, don't rush me... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 2010-02-23, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:48:35 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I get the impression you always read the mailing lists on a single machine? I read Gmane's lists from 4-5 different machines and locations. Duplicating all that mail locally on all those machines would be a pain. No, I read them from a number of machines but using a single server that handles all the filtering too. Same here -- the only difference between the two approaches is who's administering the server. You handle it yourself, I let gmane do it. :) -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Of course, you at UNDERSTAND about the PLAIDS visi.comin the SPIN CYCLE --
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 02/23/2010 07:42 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: [...] You got me with that one :) Just because I don't have this problem doesn't mean no else does either. You are permanently wired to the Internet? Don't you ever go out? :P I'm referring to the machine. It's always connected. Broadband flatrate ftw :P There's no point in ever disconnecting it.
[gentoo-user] Ping ElseCZ (re: Nvidia WAIT; (also KVM GPM passthrough ))
I tried to respond to your NVidia forums post; but couldn't join the forum (apparently they didn't like my gmail address). - FWIW I get that wait (WAIT (E, 0, 0x0887d, 0) ) when I activate the following kernel options: # set Bus options (PCI etc.) - Support for DMA Remapping Devices to * # set Bus options (PCI etc.) - Enable DMA Remapping Devices to * # set Bus options (PCI etc.) - PCI Stub driver to * Activating these options is prescribed by the KVM folks to allow VM access of the GPM; http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_to_assign_devices_with_VT-d_in_KVM - When I deactivate those options, the NV driver works fine. kernel: linux-2.6.32-gentoo-r6 (and r3) - Perhaps you could post these comments in the NV form. Perhaps you could also advise them that they might get more participation if they were a little more accessible.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:33:56 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: No, I read them from a number of machines but using a single server that handles all the filtering too. Same here -- the only difference between the two approaches is who's administering the server. You handle it yourself, I let gmane do it. :) The main difference is that mine still works when my Internet connection is not available. And that all my mail is accessible from the same place, including mails I'd never put on a server owned by someone else. -- Neil Bothwick The law of Probability Dispersal decrees that whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:22:10PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/23/2010 07:42 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: [...] You got me with that one :) Just because I don't have this problem doesn't mean no else does either. You are permanently wired to the Internet? Don't you ever go out? :P I'm referring to the machine. It's always connected. Broadband flatrate ftw :P There's no point in ever disconnecting it. Someone obviously isn't a student with ridiculously expensive electricity. ;-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpNfccBhaicr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 22:06:04 Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:22:10PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/23/2010 07:42 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: [...] You got me with that one :) Just because I don't have this problem doesn't mean no else does either. You are permanently wired to the Internet? Don't you ever go out? :P I'm referring to the machine. It's always connected. Broadband flatrate ftw :P There's no point in ever disconnecting it. Someone obviously isn't a student with ridiculously expensive electricity. ;-) Or an admin at a major ISP and *very* good friends with those who dish out the bandwidth A man must look after his friends in this world, and they will look after you :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 2010-02-23, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:33:56 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: No, I read them from a number of machines but using a single server that handles all the filtering too. Same here -- the only difference between the two approaches is who's administering the server. You handle it yourself, I let gmane do it. :) The main difference is that mine still works when my Internet connection is not available. I read the mailing lists from many different locations. I don't keep complete Usenet and mailing-list archives at all machines and locations. It doesn't really matter to me where the server is -- if I've no network access, I can't read Usenet or mailing lists. But, it's just not an issue. And that all my mail is accessible from the same place, including mails I'd never put on a server owned by someone else. I guess I just have no interest in keeping archives of 50 newsgroups/mailing-lists on a handful of different machines. Any servers I set up would be a lot less reliable and accessible than those at either Gmane or my Usenet provider. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! So this is what it at feels like to be potato visi.comsalad
Re: [gentoo-user] customized init script
On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:18, hb-...@web.de wrote: On 23.02.2010 09:41, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: * Starting ScriptRunner ... /sbin/start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/local/scriptrunner/bin/startup.sh: Exec format error (Exec format error)[ ok ] Looks like your startup.sh is not an executable. As I assume startup.sh is a shell script. So it has to use #!/bin/bash as its first line Suggest you run `head -n 1 /etc/init.d/* | grep runscript` and compare with the script the OP posted. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:29, Peter Ruskin wrote: ... I've always used pan in preference to knode. Thanks. From the screenshots at http://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/ it looks perfect. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:16, ubiquitous1980 wrote: ... I don't use knode or usenet, but am I missing something? Can't kde4 applications be used on Mac these days? Perhaps. The Mac Unix experience is that grep and sed and shellscripts and stuff like that are useful. If you just want something small like exiftool then it's easy to make install it. Larger packages with lots of dependencies, though, it's just less hassle to let a native package manager install them under Linux. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:42:25 +, Stroller wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I took it more as KDE programs are intended to be run on KDE, so don't complain if they don't work as you want elsewhere. So if it works and you are happy with it, why change? Well, duh! I'm not really happy with it. Not with all the dependencies. And whilst I see why they're necessary regarding KDE's future direction, I'd prefer to be without them. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:32:54 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: And that all my mail is accessible from the same place, including mails I'd never put on a server owned by someone else. I guess I just have no interest in keeping archives of 50 newsgroups/mailing-lists on a handful of different machines. Nor me, that's why it's all on one server. Any servers I set up would be a lot less reliable and accessible than those at either Gmane or my Usenet provider. Possible, but the connection between them and you may not. I need to keep some of my mails locally, not stored at an online service - as the server is already there and set up, it makes sense to use it for everything. For me, using an email-to-usenet gateway would actually mean more work. -- Neil Bothwick Two rights don't make a wrong, they make an airplane. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 16:25:45 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: There might be better options out there, but it requires getting used to those new options so they usually don't bother. That's me with cfg-update, conf-update etc. I got used to etc-update and I still use it because I know how to. -- Rgds Peter.
[gentoo-user] CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
Hi, I'm looking around in vain for info on why some apps (Open Office apps for instance) see printers while other apps (Evolution and Firefox for instance) do not. Apps that don't work seem to offer print to file and print to LPR. On the other hand Open Office provides only the obscenely ugly CUPS printer name HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5. The printer does work from Open Office and printing test pages. Are default names like that a problem for Gnome which is the environment my dad is using? The machine is remote so I'm having to ssh in and run apps remotely. On my machine running Gnome I didn't find any global configuration for printing in the system menus. I typically run XFCE so I'm not deeply familiar with what Gnome offers in terms of printer setup. Thanks in advance, Mark
[gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. I'd like to just nuke nepomuk, but fear the consequences. I'm seriously entertaining ideas about a more efficient way to run my Gentoo system, although I'll probably keep kdelibs because I like a few of their games. Similarly for gnome. But I wonder what I should do about the rest. Ideas? -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. I'd like to just nuke nepomuk, but fear the consequences. I'm seriously entertaining ideas about a more efficient way to run my Gentoo system, although I'll probably keep kdelibs because I like a few of their games. Similarly for gnome. But I wonder what I should do about the rest. Ideas? just deactivate it. But one thing surprises me - I have 400gb of data in /home. And nepomuk just needs 600mb...
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. I'd like to just nuke nepomuk, but fear the consequences. I'm seriously entertaining ideas about a more efficient way to run my Gentoo system, although I'll probably keep kdelibs because I like a few of their games. Similarly for gnome. But I wonder what I should do about the rest. Ideas? just deactivate it. But one thing surprises me - I have 400gb of data in /home. And nepomuk just needs 600mb... Okay, but I don't really know what it is, let alone how to deactivate it. I'll search around. Thanks. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
[gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On 02/23/2010 06:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I'm looking around in vain for info on why some apps (Open Office apps for instance) see printers while other apps (Evolution and Firefox for instance) do not. Apps that don't work seem to offer print to file and print to LPR. On the other hand Open Office provides only the obscenely ugly CUPS printer name HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5. Ugly? I think it's quite fetching, really. Are you sure you're a real computer nerd? I have an HP LaserJet 3015 that works with everything in my gnome DE, but IIRC I struggled until I discovered the net-print/hplip package, which is the opensource driver supplied by HP. It does everything including faxing, printing, and high-res color scanning all from my HP multi-function printer. Does your dad's machine have that package installed and configured?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:53 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/23/2010 06:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I'm looking around in vain for info on why some apps (Open Office apps for instance) see printers while other apps (Evolution and Firefox for instance) do not. Apps that don't work seem to offer print to file and print to LPR. On the other hand Open Office provides only the obscenely ugly CUPS printer name HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5. Ugly? I think it's quite fetching, really. Are you sure you're a real computer nerd? I have an HP LaserJet 3015 that works with everything in my gnome DE, but IIRC I struggled until I discovered the net-print/hplip package, which is the opensource driver supplied by HP. It does everything including faxing, printing, and high-res color scanning all from my HP multi-function printer. Does your dad's machine have that package installed and configured? Yes, version 3.9.12-r1 is installed but I'm not totally sure I'm using the driver it supplied. gandalf ~ # emerge -pv hplip These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1 USE=gtk hpcups libnotify qt4 -doc -fax -hpijs -minimal -new-hpcups -parport -policykit -scanner -snmp -static-ppds -udev-acl 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news to read news items. gandalf ~ # # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.11 # Written by cupsd on 2010-02-23 11:32 Printer HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5 Info HP LaserJet M1522nf MFP Location Local Printer DeviceURI socket://192.168.1.5 State Idle StateTime 1266953458 Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer Again, I figured it was working because Open Office finds it without any trouble, but his Gnome account doesn't. (Nor does mine actually - I cannot print from Firefox in my account either.) Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. I'd like to just nuke nepomuk, but fear the consequences. I'm seriously entertaining ideas about a more efficient way to run my Gentoo system, although I'll probably keep kdelibs because I like a few of their games. Similarly for gnome. But I wonder what I should do about the rest. Ideas? just deactivate it. But one thing surprises me - I have 400gb of data in /home. And nepomuk just needs 600mb... Okay, but I don't really know what it is, let alone how to deactivate it. I'll search around. Thanks. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD Kevin To deactivate it: System Settings Desktop Search [De-select] Enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop In my case, on the same page, I disabled Strigi also. Damien Sticklen
