Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On 23 Feb, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:53 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/23/2010 06:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I'm looking around in vain for info on why some apps (Open Office apps for instance) see printers while other apps (Evolution and Firefox for instance) do not. Apps that don't work seem to offer print to file and print to LPR. On the other hand Open Office provides only the obscenely ugly CUPS printer name HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5. Just one note, are you using a binary version of firefox, etc, on a 64 bit machine? I had the same problem here. This was easily solved by replacing the binary version by the native (freshly compiled) version here. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] gnupg fails to decrypt on kmail
On 22 February 2010 06:49, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 21 February 2010 17:01:13 Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 03:32:00PM +, Mick wrote: On Sunday 21 February 2010 15:08:28 Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 02:50:09PM +, Mick wrote: Yesterday I updated my system and after a series of: revdep-rebuild --library libjpeg.so.7 and revdep-rebuild -v -i I thought all was good to go. Unfortunately, I now noticed that I cannot open encrypted messages anymore and signing mail fails. This points towards gnupg which I remerged along with all packages I thought might me relevant. I haven't yet remerged openssl (will try that in a minute) but I am not sure that will help. It's not just smime but also openpgp that fails. Has anyone else noticed this and have you found any fixes for it? Just a random guess: maybe revdep-rebuild updated to a new version and configuration files changed? Did you look at the elogs of whatever you re-emerged yesterday? Yes and I ran dispatch-conf for a couple of changes. However, nothing that I recall was related to encryption: Sat Feb 20 08:05:50 2010 media-libs/jpeg-8 Sat Feb 20 08:20:29 2010 media-sound/phonon-4.3.80-r1 Sat Feb 20 08:36:37 2010 media-libs/tiff-3.9.2 Sat Feb 20 08:39:24 2010 media-libs/libquicktime-1.1.3 Sat Feb 20 08:42:15 2010 media-libs/gd-2.0.35-r1 Anything else I could look into? Then I am kind of out of ideas. You mentioned that you remerged gnupg: was there any warnings or logs at the end of the merge? (If you have it enabled, the logs maybe stored in /var/log/portage/elog/) You say that smime and openpgp fails, do you have the error message? It may help other people who know more about this to answer your question. Thanks again for your help. The problem seems to be with pinentry when gpg is invoked manually: gpg: problem with the agent: No pinentry and then as a consequence: gpg: public key decryption failed: General error gpg: decryption failed: No secret key However, I have remerged pinentry. :-( Initially, I thought this was related to updating media-libs/jpeg-8 and library libjpeg.so.7, but it seems that it may be related to qt3 becoming deprecated? Perhaps I should unmask app-crypt/pinentry-0.7.6 which has qt4 in its USE flags and try with that? Meanwhile I just resync'ed and there's a load of kde-4.3.5 updates. Perhaps I was cought up in some major update bonanza and that's why this broke. I'll finish the update and see how it goes. This is rather debilitating ... I have now update pinentry to 0.7.6 and I still have the same problem. :-( I may have to restore my system from a back up just to access my encrypted data, which is something I'd rather not have to do after a mammoth kde update. The elog of pinentry shows this, but I am not sure I understand what it means, or if it is related to my problem. == Messages generated by process 10763 on 2010-02-24 07:01:34 GMT for package a pp-crypt/pinentry-0.7.6: LOG: postinst We no longer install pinentry-curses and pinentry-qt SUID root by default. Linux kernels =2.6.9 support memory locking for unprivileged processes. The soft resource limit for memory locking specifies the limit an unprivileged process may lock into memory. You can also use POSIX capabilities to allow pinentry to lock memory. To do so activate the caps USE flag and add the CAP_IPC_LOCK capability to the permitted set of your users. == Since invoking gpg on the CLI does not ask for a passphrase and it returns: gpg: problem with the agent: No pinentry I assume that the problem is with pinentry. Is there some other application involved here that I should look into? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:41 PM, ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.comwrote: Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. I'd like to just nuke nepomuk, but fear the consequences. I'm seriously entertaining ideas about a more efficient way to run my Gentoo system, although I'll probably keep kdelibs because I like a few of their games. Similarly for gnome. But I wonder what I should do about the rest. Ideas? just deactivate it. But one thing surprises me - I have 400gb of data in /home. And nepomuk just needs 600mb... Okay, but I don't really know what it is, let alone how to deactivate it. I'll search around. Thanks. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD Kevin To deactivate it: System Settings Desktop Search [De-select] Enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop In my case, on the same page, I disabled Strigi also. Damien Sticklen Thanks. My having research work with a few hundred thousand small files and a couple of terrabytes of storage and backups could account for the size. Some occasional sluggishness too. It makes no sense to index any of this, so ditching it feels good. For anyone else in the same boat, I would amend the instructions thus: System Settings Advanced Desktop Search [De-select] Enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop Again, thanks. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? -- Zeerak Waseem pgpR9zop2lF1s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 23 Feb, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:53 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/23/2010 06:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I'm looking around in vain for info on why some apps (Open Office apps for instance) see printers while other apps (Evolution and Firefox for instance) do not. Apps that don't work seem to offer print to file and print to LPR. On the other hand Open Office provides only the obscenely ugly CUPS printer name HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5. Just one note, are you using a binary version of firefox, etc, on a 64 bit machine? I had the same problem here. This was easily solved by replacing the binary version by the native (freshly compiled) version here. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Thanks but no. In fact the one binary thing on the system that comes to mind is Open Office in which printing is working. It's the stuff I'm building that isn't! - Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 03:41 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? Don't know, never happened here.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
Am Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2010 15:12:58 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 02/24/2010 03:41 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? Don't know, never happened here. Just tried it, and the following apps are being recompiled right now: [ebuild R ] kde-base/pykde4-4.3.5-r1 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/gwenview-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] net-wireless/kbluetooth-0.4.2 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/dolphin-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-runtime-meta-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kmail-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* Let's see if it works.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
there was a recent discussion about this on this mailing list: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_13c6d27e4216e91ed3c4800fe42b8e95.xml it seems only Kmail needs that USE flag. I also haven't tried this on my system. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 02/24/2010 03:41 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? Don't know, never happened here. -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 04:28 PM, Crístian Viana wrote: there was a recent discussion about this on this mailing list: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_13c6d27e4216e91ed3c4800fe42b8e95.xml it seems only Kmail needs that USE flag. I also haven't tried this on my system. Question is: will enabling that USE flag only for kdelibs result in KDE in general using a semantic desktop?
Re: [gentoo-user] gnupg fails to decrypt on kmail
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:31:34AM +, Mick wrote: Since invoking gpg on the CLI does not ask for a passphrase and it returns: gpg: problem with the agent: No pinentry I assume that the problem is with pinentry. Is there some other application involved here that I should look into? pinentry is the standalone package to asks for the passphrase for gpg. Try up'ing the verbosity on gpg? E.g. run `gpg -vv' on your CLI and post full output (modulo anything sensitive, of course)? (Also, a stupid question: at any point did you rebuild gpg? Did you restart the gpg-agent afterwards?) Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 23 Feb, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:53 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/23/2010 06:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, ?? ??I'm looking around in vain for info on why some apps (Open Office apps for instance) see printers while other apps (Evolution and Firefox for instance) do not. Apps that don't work seem to offer print to file and print to LPR. On the other hand Open Office provides only the obscenely ugly CUPS printer name HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5. Just one note, are you using a binary version of firefox, etc, on a 64 bit machine? I had the same problem here. This was easily solved by replacing the binary version by the native (freshly compiled) version here. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Thanks but no. In fact the one binary thing on the system that comes to mind is Open Office in which printing is working. It's the stuff I'm building that isn't! - Mark Hello, Is this anything to do with GTK? I have the same problem, in cups it is fine, but say something like xpdf or firefox and only the print lpr is there. -- Regards, Roundyz
Re: [gentoo-user] gnupg fails to decrypt on kmail
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:31:34AM +, Mick wrote: Since invoking gpg on the CLI does not ask for a passphrase and it returns: gpg: problem with the agent: No pinentry I assume that the problem is with pinentry. Is there some other application involved here that I should look into? Hum, also, try getting some debug output from gpg-agent: (1) 'killall gpg-agent' (and run ps aux to see if they are really killed) (2) Restart gpg-agent via eval 'gpg-agent --daemon --no-detach --debug-level guru --log-file ~/gpg-agent.log' (3) Run gpg. Look at the content of ~/gpg-agent.log to see if anything is amiss. HTH, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] emergency call for help: raid5 fallen apart
I also sent this one to the linux-raid-ml, I am in trouble: Sorry for maybe FAQing, I am in emergency mode: customer server, RAID5 + hotspare, 4 drives ... gentoo Linux version 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 mdadm 2.6.4-r1 here - one of the 4 drives showed massive errors in dmesg, /dev/sdc SMART-errors etc. bought new drive and wanted to swap today. # cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md1 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0] 104320 blocks [2/2] [UU] md3 : active raid5 sdb3[1] sda3[0] 19550976 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/2] [UU_] md4 : inactive sdb4[1](S) sdd4[3](S) sdc4[2](S) sda4[0](S) 583641088 blocks - I did: mdadm /dev/md3 --fail /dev/sdc3 went OK mdadm /dev/md4 --remove /dev/sdc3 OK as well, raid md3 rebuilt - With md4 I was too aggressive maybe: mdadm /dev/md4 --fail /dev/sdc4 --remove /dev/sdc4 this rendered md4 unusable, even after a reboot it can't be reassambled. This is bad, to say the least. md4 : inactive sdb4[1](S) sdd4[3](S) sdc4[2](S) sda4[0](S) 583641088 blocks What to try? This is a crucial server and I feel a lot of pressure. Rebuilding that raid would mean a lot of restore-work etc. So I would really appreciate a goo advice here. THANKS! Stefan
[gentoo-user] Re: emergency call for help: raid5 fallen apart
I also sent this one to the linux-raid-ml, I am in trouble: Am 24.02.2010 15:54, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: What to try? This is a crucial server and I feel a lot of pressure. Rebuilding that raid would mean a lot of restore-work etc. So I would really appreciate a goo advice here. Followup: --examine shows different statii for the four partitions: server-gentoo ~ # mdadm --examine /dev/sda4 /dev/sda4: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 00.90.00 UUID : d4b0e9c1:067357ce:2569337e:e9af8bed Creation Time : Tue Aug 5 14:14:16 2008 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 145910272 (139.15 GiB 149.41 GB) Array Size : 291820544 (278.30 GiB 298.82 GB) Raid Devices : 3 Total Devices : 4 Preferred Minor : 4 Update Time : Wed Feb 24 15:33:37 2010 State : active Active Devices : 2 Working Devices : 3 Failed Devices : 1 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 3039381e - correct Events : 0.13 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 0 840 active sync /dev/sda4 0 0 840 active sync /dev/sda4 1 1 8 201 active sync /dev/sdb4 2 2 002 faulty removed 3 3 8 523 spare /dev/sdd4 server-gentoo ~ # mdadm --examine /dev/sdb4 /dev/sdb4: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 00.90.00 UUID : d4b0e9c1:067357ce:2569337e:e9af8bed Creation Time : Tue Aug 5 14:14:16 2008 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 145910272 (139.15 GiB 149.41 GB) Array Size : 291820544 (278.30 GiB 298.82 GB) Raid Devices : 3 Total Devices : 4 Preferred Minor : 4 Update Time : Wed Feb 24 15:37:05 2010 State : clean Active Devices : 1 Working Devices : 2 Failed Devices : 1 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 3039393f - correct Events : 0.32 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 1 8 201 active sync /dev/sdb4 0 0 000 removed 1 1 8 201 active sync /dev/sdb4 2 2 002 faulty removed 3 3 8 523 spare /dev/sdd4 server-gentoo ~ # mdadm --examine /dev/sdc4 /dev/sdc4: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 00.90.00 UUID : d4b0e9c1:067357ce:2569337e:e9af8bed Creation Time : Tue Aug 5 14:14:16 2008 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 145910272 (139.15 GiB 149.41 GB) Array Size : 291820544 (278.30 GiB 298.82 GB) Raid Devices : 3 Total Devices : 4 Preferred Minor : 4 Update Time : Wed Feb 24 15:33:28 2010 State : clean Active Devices : 3 Working Devices : 4 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 30393836 - correct Events : 0.10 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 2 8 362 active sync /dev/sdc4 0 0 840 active sync /dev/sda4 1 1 8 201 active sync /dev/sdb4 2 2 8 362 active sync /dev/sdc4 3 3 8 523 spare /dev/sdd4 server-gentoo ~ # mdadm --examine /dev/sdd4 /dev/sdd4: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 00.90.00 UUID : d4b0e9c1:067357ce:2569337e:e9af8bed Creation Time : Tue Aug 5 14:14:16 2008 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 145910272 (139.15 GiB 149.41 GB) Array Size : 291820544 (278.30 GiB 298.82 GB) Raid Devices : 3 Total Devices : 4 Preferred Minor : 4 Update Time : Wed Feb 24 15:37:05 2010 State : clean Active Devices : 1 Working Devices : 2 Failed Devices : 1 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 3039395d - correct Events : 0.32 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 3 8 523 spare /dev/sdd4 0 0 000 removed 1 1 8 201 active sync /dev/sdb4 2 2 002 faulty removed 3 3 8 523 spare /dev/sdd4 Does this info help? Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wednesday 24 February 2010 16:46:59 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:28 PM, Crístian Viana wrote: there was a recent discussion about this on this mailing list: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_13c6d27e4216e91ed3c4800fe42b8e 95.xml it seems only Kmail needs that USE flag. I also haven't tried this on my system. Question is: will enabling that USE flag only for kdelibs result in KDE in general using a semantic desktop? No. It means that kdelibs will support Nepomuk, whether individual apps do so or not is indeterminate. There are three possibilities for apps: 1. They build support for semantic desktop 2. They do not build support for semantic desktop 3. They can be configured to support or not support semantic desktop via USE Plus a 4th option: buggy code that does some weird combination of 1-3 or perhaps something else altogether. To answer your question, you would have to audit all the KDE4 apps and add up the tally against points 1-3 (and maybe 4) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On 02/23/2010 09:39 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.11 # Written by cupsd on 2010-02-23 11:32 Printer HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5 Info HP LaserJet M1522nf MFP Location Local Printer DeviceURI socket://192.168.1.5 State Idle StateTime 1266953458 Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer Again, I figured it was working because Open Office finds it without any trouble, but his Gnome account doesn't. (Nor does mine actually - I cannot print from Firefox in my account either.) Can firefox see the cups html interface at localhost:631 ?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Am Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2010 15:12:58 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 02/24/2010 03:41 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? Don't know, never happened here. Just tried it, and the following apps are being recompiled right now: [ebuild R ] kde-base/pykde4-4.3.5-r1 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/gwenview-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] net-wireless/kbluetooth-0.4.2 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/dolphin-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-runtime-meta-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kmail-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* Let's see if it works. I seem to recall that I had to enable this for some updates recently. Something wouldn't compile without the USE flag being set. I don't think I need the thing either so if this works now, I may change mine and try it too. Also, I use the kde-meta package which may make a difference. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: pdf viewing suggestions?
On 02/24/2010 06:01 PM, daid kahl wrote: Hello all, Simple question: Can you please explain your pdf viewer of choice (and any configs or 'hacks' I should do)? I can't find anything I like. I've tried xpdf, epdfview, evince, kpdf, and acroread. As I am trying to remove kdelibs from my system to reduce overhead, I'm reluctant to go for okular, and although I had some brief experience with it, I forget my results (still trying to replace kaffeine..that's another post maybe for later once I'm done testing). I had gs programs of sorts for awhile, and I forget the results, other than to say the pdf parts aren't on my machine anymore for better or worse. There's also Foxit Reader. You can find it in the rion overlay.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:34 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/23/2010 09:39 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.11 # Written by cupsd on 2010-02-23 11:32 Printer HP_LaserJet_M1522nf_MFP_192.168.1.5 Info HP LaserJet M1522nf MFP Location Local Printer DeviceURI socket://192.168.1.5 State Idle StateTime 1266953458 Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer Again, I figured it was working because Open Office finds it without any trouble, but his Gnome account doesn't. (Nor does mine actually - I cannot print from Firefox in my account either.) Can firefox see the cups html interface at localhost:631 ? Yes - that's how I'm administering the machine as it's 350 miles away. From the CUPS interface at port 631 I can delete the printer, add the printer automatically - CUPS finds it when I ask it to look for new printers - and I can print test pages form within the management interface. I can run Open Office and print pages on the printer. OO sees the printer with the exact big, ugly name I left as default in CUPS. My dad says the pages show up and he's right because he reads me what I typed in. It's all the other apps I've tried remotely (Evolution in my dad's account Firefox in mine) that don't find the printer. Curious... Cheers, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 06:03 PM, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Am Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2010 15:12:58 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 02/24/2010 03:41 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? Don't know, never happened here. Just tried it, and the following apps are being recompiled right now: [ebuild R ] kde-base/pykde4-4.3.5-r1 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/gwenview-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] net-wireless/kbluetooth-0.4.2 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/dolphin-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-runtime-meta-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kmail-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* Let's see if it works. I seem to recall that I had to enable this for some updates recently. Something wouldn't compile without the USE flag being set. I don't think I need the thing either so if this works now, I may change mine and try it too. Also, I use the kde-meta package which may make a difference. KMail from KDE 4.4 needs it. KMail from KDE 4.3 doesn't.
[gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
Mark Knecht markknecht at gmail.com writes: the one binary thing on the system that comes to mind is Open Office in which printing is working. It's the stuff I'm building that isn't! Have you set the cups flag in make.conf? It may or maynot make a difference. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 02/24/2010 06:03 PM, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Am Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2010 15:12:58 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 02/24/2010 03:41 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? Don't know, never happened here. Just tried it, and the following apps are being recompiled right now: [ebuild R ] kde-base/pykde4-4.3.5-r1 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/gwenview-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] net-wireless/kbluetooth-0.4.2 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/dolphin-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-runtime-meta-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kmail-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* Let's see if it works. I seem to recall that I had to enable this for some updates recently. Something wouldn't compile without the USE flag being set. I don't think I need the thing either so if this works now, I may change mine and try it too. Also, I use the kde-meta package which may make a difference. KMail from KDE 4.4 needs it. KMail from KDE 4.3 doesn't. Since kde-meta would pull in Kmail, that could be the problem for me. If you folks are doing yours the manual way, you may can get away with it. I suspect that some other packages will pull it in as KDE develops tho. After all, KDE 4 has a LOT of eye candy to it. Sort of like winders actually. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. --Mike the thing is - xfce does not necessarily use less ram. And semantic desktop can help him to easily find data points over a multitude of documents..,..
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:20:01 +0100, Mark Knecht wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not: [snip] Thanks but no. In fact the one binary thing on the system that comes to mind is Open Office in which printing is working. It's the stuff I'm building that isn't! Possibly a stupid question: have you enabled the cups USE flag for these packages, or even globally in /etc/make.conf ? -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) == signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 06:47 PM, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 02/24/2010 06:03 PM, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Am Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2010 15:12:58 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 02/24/2010 03:41 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? Don't know, never happened here. Just tried it, and the following apps are being recompiled right now: [ebuild R ] kde-base/pykde4-4.3.5-r1 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/gwenview-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] net-wireless/kbluetooth-0.4.2 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/dolphin-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-runtime-meta-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kmail-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.3.5 USE=-semantic-desktop* Let's see if it works. I seem to recall that I had to enable this for some updates recently. Something wouldn't compile without the USE flag being set. I don't think I need the thing either so if this works now, I may change mine and try it too. Also, I use the kde-meta package which may make a difference. KMail from KDE 4.4 needs it. KMail from KDE 4.3 doesn't. Since kde-meta would pull in Kmail, that could be the problem for me. If you folks are doing yours the manual way, you may can get away with it. No, no manual way here. I use meta packages too. Just not kde-meta; that's the includes-all-mega-duper-everything-mother-of-all-meta-packages package. Instead I use stuff like kdeartwork-meta, kdebase-meta, kdebase-runtime-meta, etc. Emerging the actual packages all by hand would be too tedious. I still need a few, but really just a few (and it's obvious which ones; for example if you have the Kate editor missing in KDE, you know you need to emerge kde-base/kate.)
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. he wrote: Thanks. My having research work with a few hundred thousand small files and a couple of terrabytes of storage and backups could account for the size. Some occasional sluggishness too. It makes no sense to index any of this, so ditching it feels good. and semantic-desktop was developed to help people with such workloads.
Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?
There's app-text/gv, which is very small. There's also page from plan9port. If you want to try out page, don't install plan9port from portage, it's horribly out of date. You should download a recent tarball from http://swtch.com/plan9port. -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgpbL4e2O3AEv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM, james wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Mark Knecht markknecht at gmail.com writes: the one binary thing on the system that comes to mind is Open Office in which printing is working. It's the stuff I'm building that isn't! Have you set the cups flag in make.conf? It may or maynot make a difference. hth, James It is not globally set and setting it causes a number of things to get installed and rebuilt including gnome-cups-manager. Sounds like a good use flag in this case. Rebuilding now. Maybe in an hour we'll have an answer. Thanks! - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pdf viewing suggestions?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:06:46PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 06:01 PM, daid kahl wrote: Hello all, Simple question: Can you please explain your pdf viewer of choice (and any configs or 'hacks' I should do)? I can't find anything I like. I've tried xpdf, epdfview, evince, kpdf, and acroread. As I am trying to remove kdelibs from my system to reduce overhead, I'm reluctant to go for okular, and although I had some brief experience with it, I forget my results (still trying to replace kaffeine..that's another post maybe for later once I'm done testing). I had gs programs of sorts for awhile, and I forget the results, other than to say the pdf parts aren't on my machine anymore for better or worse. There's also Foxit Reader. You can find it in the rion overlay. Does Foxit Reader support editing pdf files (By editing I mean making notes in them etc.), I've been having some trouble finding a pdf-reader that allowed that. If anyone has any suggestions as to what pdf readers (other than okular) do it, I'd be very grateful :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgphqLerZRaJ6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pdf viewing suggestions?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:19:52PM +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: Does Foxit Reader support editing pdf files (By editing I mean making notes in them etc.), I've been having some trouble finding a pdf-reader that allowed that. If anyone has any suggestions as to what pdf readers (other than okular) do it, I'd be very grateful :-) I don't use a PDF reader for that :) I manage my PDF documents with Jabref, and I add a comment field to store general comments about the PDF. For margin-notes I use the PDF-annotation feature of xournal. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 01:01:37AM +0900, daid kahl wrote: I've tried xpdf, epdfview, evince, kpdf, and acroread. I want something fast for big files, prints well, and has an interface that doesn't remind me of pure and natural X. I don't mind the little page overview as a side-tool, but I don't strictly require it. Speedwise I don't think epdfview/evince/kpdf will be all that much different. They are all based on the poppler framework just with different frontends. Poppler is, in turn, based on the xpdf rendering parts. Acroread is, well acroread, and I try to avoid it whenever I can. evince will take an arbitrarily long time to print documents that are long or have big figures. That's odd. I use evince at work (though not on gentoo; work computer is a heavily customized version of scientific linux) and I don't have the printing problem. If it weren't for the Gnome dependencies that I don't want on my laptop, I'd also use evince at home. (Hum, just checked it out again now, and it looks like the dependency list is shorter than I remembered it being?) The interface for xpdf is pretty lame (especially default printing), but it's quick as demons chasing bats out of hell. But it works. It is my pdf viewer of choice at home. One thing I am waiting to see is epdf from the enlightenment libraries. It is still masked, and is in the enlightenment overlay. In the sunrise overlay there is a program called apvlv. I have never tried it myself, but the codebase is small and it has a UI based on the VIM UI (for better or for worse). You probably know this already, but gv doesn't work too well a lot of times. Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 07:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. he wrote: Thanks. My having research work with a few hundred thousand small files and a couple of terrabytes of storage and backups could account for the size. Some occasional sluggishness too. It makes no sense to index any of this, so ditching it feels good. and semantic-desktop was developed to help people with such workloads. I don't understand your reply or what it answers.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 07:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. he wrote: Thanks. My having research work with a few hundred thousand small files and a couple of terrabytes of storage and backups could account for the size. Some occasional sluggishness too. It makes no sense to index any of this, so ditching it feels good. and semantic-desktop was developed to help people with such workloads. I don't understand your reply or what it answers. because you haven't read the thread before you wrote your email?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pdf viewing suggestions?
On 25 February 2010 02:46, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:19:52PM +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: Does Foxit Reader support editing pdf files (By editing I mean making notes in them etc.), I've been having some trouble finding a pdf-reader that allowed that. If anyone has any suggestions as to what pdf readers (other than okular) do it, I'd be very grateful :-) I don't use a PDF reader for that :) I manage my PDF documents with Jabref, and I add a comment field to store general comments about the PDF. For margin-notes I use the PDF-annotation feature of xournal. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu jabref is totally amazing, and I also use that. I can fully endorse it to anyone using bibtex sorts of things. ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 2/24/2010 11:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. Well, mostly based on him telling us what he needs, and that he doesn't really want KDE: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. it appears that all he needs is a panel and a pager, which any decent window manager will have. Therefore, if KDE is using up more resources than he feels warranted, perhaps it's time to switch. --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM, james wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Mark Knecht markknecht at gmail.com writes: the one binary thing on the system that comes to mind is Open Office in which printing is working. It's the stuff I'm building that isn't! Have you set the cups flag in make.conf? It may or maynot make a difference. hth, James It is not globally set and setting it causes a number of things to get installed and rebuilt including gnome-cups-manager. Sounds like a good use flag in this case. Rebuilding now. Maybe in an hour we'll have an answer. Thanks! - Mark Thanks James. At least for me remotely that enabled printing from within Firefox. Waiting now for my dad to check it out locally. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?
[snips from daid / Willie Wong] evince will take an arbitrarily long time to print documents that are long or have big figures. That's odd. I use evince at work (though not on gentoo; work computer is a heavily customized version of scientific linux) and I don't have the printing problem. [snip] [also sorry if I used HTML formatting earlier, sometimes it is turned on for me and I forget] It could have been this crazy pdf I was printing, which was one of the first times I was really using evince a lot since other things were also complaining. I had pdftk'ed different files, and I think some of them were like US Letter and others were A4 and others weren't specified. Well, I kind of erased that experience from my memory, but I know almost everything on different OSes didn't like what I'd done, whatever it was. So this could be a very bad test case. There was something else in my mind from testing it that made me kind of shiver in a bad way, but I forget. It should be a good program from what I know, however. The interface for xpdf is pretty lame (especially default printing), but it's quick as demons chasing bats out of hell. But it works. It is my pdf viewer of choice at home. [snip] I'll check out what I can do for printing from it and maybe making it prettier. You probably know this already, but gv doesn't work too well a lot of times. Yeah, I kinda forget, but I assume it wasn't removed from my world for no reason at all. Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from. We seem to be doing well so far! ~daid
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 07:57 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 07:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. he wrote: Thanks. My having research work with a few hundred thousand small files and a couple of terrabytes of storage and backups could account for the size. Some occasional sluggishness too. It makes no sense to index any of this, so ditching it feels good. and semantic-desktop was developed to help people with such workloads. I don't understand your reply or what it answers. because you haven't read the thread before you wrote your email? Yeah, I'm the one who suggested the OP needs semantic desktop even though he clearly stated he doesn't: It makes no sense to index any of this, so ditching it feels good. Perhaps it's a language barrier. I'll state it in simpler words: The OP does not want to index any of his files. He wants to disable that functionality. He has not indicated that he wants to switch from KDE to something else. OK, another poster then showed up and suggested that he needs something other than KDE. That didn't make any sense since the OP is using KDE and just wants the indexing stuff gone, which is what I pointed out. Then you come along with the statement as a reply to it: and semantic-desktop was developed to help people with such workloads. which doesn't make any sense with the flow of the discussion. Semantic desktop was invented for that, but the OP clearly stated he doesn't want it. I am not the one who doesn't read the thread before writing my email.
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 02/24/2010 08:12 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 11:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. Well, mostly based on him telling us what he needs, and that he doesn't really want KDE: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. it appears that all he needs is a panel and a pager, which any decent window manager will have. Therefore, if KDE is using up more resources than he feels warranted, perhaps it's time to switch. I have semantic desktop disabled and KDE offers a hell of a lot more than just a panel and a pager.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
james wrote: Mark Knecht markknecht at gmail.com writes: the one binary thing on the system that comes to mind is Open Office in which printing is working. It's the stuff I'm building that isn't! Have you set the cups flag in make.conf? It may or maynot make a difference. hth, James No, I copied the make.conf from a different machine a decided I nver needed it :( I've enabled it now, but another thing is it safe to delete an entry from my world file, so when I update it isn't everything? -- Regards, Roundyz
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system
How is BackupPC to set up? Is it a whole new world to explore, or can it be set up quickly and easily? It takes a little while to get the hang of how the config files work, but once you get it it takes no work at all. Restoring is as simple as selecting the files you want in a browser and pressing a button. -- Neil Bothwick Has anyone tried backupninja? There is a new ebuild for it. https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/show/backupninja/ Is BackupPC too excellent to consider an alternative? I'm going to set up one of these backup systems in the next few weeks. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS - Some apps see printers, some do not
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:53 AM, roun...@hotmail.ru wrote: james wrote: Mark Knecht markknecht at gmail.com writes: the one binary thing on the system that comes to mind is Open Office in which printing is working. It's the stuff I'm building that isn't! Have you set the cups flag in make.conf? It may or maynot make a difference. hth, James No, I copied the make.conf from a different machine a decided I nver needed it :( I've enabled it now, but another thing is it safe to delete an entry from my world file, so when I update it isn't everything? -- Regards, Roundyz Try equery hasuse cups on my machine it was only something like 8 or 9 packages. It might not be a real big problem to enable it globally. It did work for me. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: [snips from daid / Willie Wong] Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from. We seem to be doing well so far! I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what they were talking about. -Neal
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:02:42 -0800, Grant wrote: Has anyone tried backupninja? There is a new ebuild for it. https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/show/backupninja/ Is BackupPC too excellent to consider an alternative? I'm going to set up one of these backup systems in the next few weeks. It looks interesting, and no program is that good that alternatives should never be considered, but I really like the way BaclupPC works. Everything is handled by the server, all you need to do on each client is copy the backuppc user's public key to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. -- Neil Bothwick The dark ages were caused by the Y1K problem. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 08:32:17PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 08:12 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 11:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. Well, mostly based on him telling us what he needs, and that he doesn't really want KDE: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. it appears that all he needs is a panel and a pager, which any decent window manager will have. Therefore, if KDE is using up more resources than he feels warranted, perhaps it's time to switch. I have semantic desktop disabled and KDE offers a hell of a lot more than just a panel and a pager. You're right. KDE does offer a lot more than just a pager and a panel with semantic desktop disabled, but the OP does state that all hee needs is a panel with some favourites, and a pager for multiple desktops. Which pretty much any WM will give him. Again, no one is telling him to switch, but suggesting that based on his needs, KDE might be overkill. -- Zeerak Waseem pgp0c4cVBYKPV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?
Am 24.02.2010 21:21, schrieb Neal Hogan:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote:
[snips from daid / Willie Wong]
Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from.
We seem to be doing well so far!
I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too
sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had
a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what
they were talking about.
-Neal
Shao ~ # eix mupdf
* app-text/mupdf
Available versions: (~)0.5[1] (~)20090703[2] {+cjk debug jbig jpeg2k}
Homepage:http://ccxvii.net/mupdf
Description: Lightweight PDF viewer and toolkit written in
portable C.
[1] gentoo-china layman/gentoo-china
[2] rion layman/rion
It is not in portage tree but in those two overlays.
Greetings
Sebastian
[gentoo-user] Re: pdf viewing suggestions?
On 2010-02-24, Sebastian Be?ler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote:
Am 24.02.2010 21:21, schrieb Neal Hogan:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote:
[snips from daid / Willie Wong]
Unfortunately there aren't that many pdf viewing softwares to choose from.
We seem to be doing well so far!
I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too
sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had
a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what
they were talking about.
Shao ~ # eix mupdf
* app-text/mupdf
Available versions: (~)0.5[1] (~)20090703[2] {+cjk debug jbig jpeg2k}
Homepage:http://ccxvii.net/mupdf
Description: Lightweight PDF viewer and toolkit written in
portable C.
[1] gentoo-china layman/gentoo-china
[2] rion layman/rion
It is not in portage tree but in those two overlays.
I just built mupdf 0.5 from sources (after emerging ftjam), and
mupdf segfaulted a few pages into the first document I opened.
That and the inability to search are going to make it a
non-starter for me.
It is small and fast, though.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! It's some people
at inside the wall! This is
visi.combetter than mopping!
Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:21:39PM -0600, Neal Hogan wrote: I use mupdf with OpenBSD and I like it (vi-like bindings). Not too sure if Gentoo has the port/package. A quick gentoo mupdf google had a few hits . . . but I didn't look at any of the links to see what they were talking about. http://bugs.gentoo.org/280469 I hope it at least makes into sunrise. There is a version or two in the gentoo-china overlay, but they are old and have security vulnerabilities. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] gnupg fails to decrypt on kmail
On Wednesday 24 February 2010 15:03:06 Willie Wong wrote: Hum, also, try getting some debug output from gpg-agent: (1) 'killall gpg-agent' (and run ps aux to see if they are really killed) (2) Restart gpg-agent via eval 'gpg-agent --daemon --no-detach --debug-level guru --log-file ~/gpg-agent.log' (3) Run gpg. Look at the content of ~/gpg-agent.log to see if anything is amiss. Thank you very much for persevering with me! :-) I changed your eval argument a bit and this is what I noticed: eval $(gpg-agent --daemon --no-detach --debug-level guru --log-file gpg- agent.log) gpg-agent[7276]: enabled debug flags: command mpi crypto memory cache memstat hashing assuan The log file shows: 2010-02-24 20:32:01 gpg-agent[7276] listening on socket `/tmp/gpg- IX4A40/S.gpg-agent' 2010-02-24 20:32:01 gpg-agent[7277] gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.0.14 started 2010-02-24 20:32:13 gpg-agent[7277] SIGINT received - immediate shutdown 2010-02-24 20:32:13 gpg-agent[7277] gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.0.14 stopped 2010-02-24 20:32:13 gpg-agent[7277] random usage: poolsize=600 mixed=0 polls=0/0 added=0/0 outmix=0 getlvl1=0/0 getlvl2=0/0 2010-02-24 20:32:13 gpg-agent[7277] secmem usage: 0/32768 bytes in 0 blocks However, when I invoke gpg it looks for another socket ... different to the one that the agent is listening on. $ gpg -vv DATA/some_data.ods.gpg gpg: using character set `iso-8859-1' gpg: enabled debug flags: memstat :pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 16, keyid ZZZ data: [2048 bits] data: [2045 bits] gpg: public key is gpg: using subkey instead of primary key You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for user: me m...@gmail.com gpg: using subkey instead of primary key 2048-bit ELG key, ID , created 2010-01-25 (main key ID ) can't connect to `/tmp/gpg-pNLb9Y/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory gpg: can't connect to the agent - trying fall back can't connect to `/home/michael/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory gpg: no running gpg-agent - starting one gpg-agent[7265]: enabled debug flags: assuan can't connect to `/home/michael/.gnupg/log-socket': Connection refused gpg: problem with the agent: No pinentry :encrypted data packet: length: 22577 mdc_method: 2 gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit ELG key, ID , created 2010-01-25 me m...@gmail.com gpg: public key decryption failed: General error gpg: decryption failed: No secret key Why is this? Invoking gpg to decrypt different (encrypted) files always brings up that socket '/tmp/gpg-pNLb9Y/S.gpg-agent'. Shouldn't it be a different socket each time? Another thing that shows something has gone south is that pinentry no longer asks for a passphrase as shown above. Also, when I encrypt a file it still does not ask for my passphrase - it just encrypts the file! -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] gnupg fails to decrypt on kmail
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:51:38PM +, Mick wrote: eval $(gpg-agent --daemon --no-detach --debug-level guru --log-file gpg- agent.log) gpg-agent[7276]: enabled debug flags: command mpi crypto memory cache memstat hashing assuan The log file shows: 2010-02-24 20:32:01 gpg-agent[7276] listening on socket `/tmp/gpg- IX4A40/S.gpg-agent' 2010-02-24 20:32:01 gpg-agent[7277] gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.0.14 started 2010-02-24 20:32:13 gpg-agent[7277] SIGINT received - immediate shutdown 2010-02-24 20:32:13 gpg-agent[7277] gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.0.14 stopped 2010-02-24 20:32:13 gpg-agent[7277] random usage: poolsize=600 mixed=0 polls=0/0 added=0/0 outmix=0 getlvl1=0/0 getlvl2=0/0 2010-02-24 20:32:13 gpg-agent[7277] secmem usage: 0/32768 bytes in 0 blocks However, when I invoke gpg it looks for another socket ... different to the one that the agent is listening on. $ gpg -vv DATA/some_data.ods.gpg gpg: using character set `iso-8859-1' gpg: enabled debug flags: memstat :pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 16, keyid ZZZ data: [2048 bits] data: [2045 bits] gpg: public key is gpg: using subkey instead of primary key You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for user: me m...@gmail.com gpg: using subkey instead of primary key 2048-bit ELG key, ID , created 2010-01-25 (main key ID ) can't connect to `/tmp/gpg-pNLb9Y/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory gpg: can't connect to the agent - trying fall back snip Why is this? Invoking gpg to decrypt different (encrypted) files always brings up that socket '/tmp/gpg-pNLb9Y/S.gpg-agent'. Shouldn't it be a different socket each time? Ack, let's do this one step at a time then. First let's try to figure out the problem with the gpg-agent. This time, run the command from gpg-agent, not inside a eval statement. Just by itself on the commandline. It should spit out the environmental variable GPG_AGENT_INFO. Copy the content of that variable (so copy the whole thing GPG_AGENT_INFO=... ) In a new prompt, first paste the variable, then type gpg -vv *file* So it should be GPG_AGENT_INFO=.. gpg -vv DATA/filename.ogg Quick explanation: gpg finds out where the agent is by looking at the environmental variable GPG_AGENT_INFO. We want to try to make sure it is in fact looking at that variable. Take a look at the man pages for gpg-agent and gpg for more information. Now look at the output again to see if it is still connecting to the wrong socket. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. I'd like to just nuke nepomuk, but fear the consequences. I'm seriously entertaining ideas about a more efficient way to run my Gentoo system, although I'll probably keep kdelibs because I like a few of their games. Similarly for gnome. But I wonder what I should do about the rest. Ideas? just deactivate it. But one thing surprises me - I have 400gb of data in /home. And nepomuk just needs 600mb... I had similar problems with KDE 4.2. And I wonder why strigi keeps indexing some of my files every time log into KDE, which I am sure were not changed in the meantime. But I do not notice this much, because Amarok creates much more disk I/O before it crashes every time I log in. Then I restart it, it scans for a while, and works then. Maybe I'll downgrade, or I'll wait for an update, I got so used to Amarok I do not want to change. That's my experience with KDE4. It's really nice, has cool features and is getting better and better, but it's always many things which do not run correctly. With every KDE update, some are fixed, and other problems appear. Problems that I had with 4.2 and still have with 4.4: - Session saving sometimes does not work - Kmail complains about running two times when started at login by a saved session - I get dialogs about crashed konqueror sessions I can restore - kthumbnail thumbnails my files over and over again, two days ago I had a load of 400 - Amarok: crashes, ogg file corruption, wrong playlists, sloow response (sometimes I miss the first 1-2 seconds) - many bundled plasmoids seem to be buggy - Krunner is very nice, if only it would not crash so often or hang for seconds, so that using the K menu is easier. Once I had to remove its config file because it would not start at all. - My additional Konqueror profiles do not appear in the file menu. I can enable them, they are lost at next login. - Under load the panel does not react well, clicks onto another desktop take 10 seconds to happen sometimes. Switching via hotkey is still fast. - This KMail window has spell checking which is nice to have. But when I open the spell checking dialog in order to add words to the dictionary, I always have to start at the very beginning and reply to all problems until I get to the word I want it to learn. Oh, and it even has problems with numbers like 4.2. This looks to me like the typical example of a nice idea, but it's implemented so badly I just do not use it. And so on. But it's not so bad I cannot work with it (well, sometimes it is, and then I have to fix it, like when the password dialog no longer accepted passwords), and so I keep using it, waiting it to become really stable and usable. Wonko
[gentoo-user] openvpn static ip
I've configured OpenVPN and it works OK but I can not seems to figure it out how to assign static IP to clients My server.conf port 8458 proto udp dev tun mode server ca /usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys/ca.crt cert /usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys/server.crt key /usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys/server.key dh /usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys/dh1024.pem server 192.168.139.0 255.255.255.0 client-to-client ifconfig-pool-persist ipp.txt client-config-dir ccd keepalive 10 120 tls-auth vpn_my.key 0 tun-mtu 1500 tun-mtu-extra 32 mssfix 1200 duplicate-cn comp-lzo max-clients 100 persist-key persist-tun status openvpn-status.log log/var/log/openvpn.log log-append /var/log/openvpn.log verb 3 On client in /etc/openvpn/ccd directory I've created a file syscon9 with: ifconfig-push 192.168.139.15 192.168.139.1 This file suppose to have a name from client CN client.conf client dev tun proto udp remote 68.148.245.78 8458 resolv-retry infinite nobind tun-mtu 1500 tun-mtu-extra 32 mssfix 1200 persist-key persist-tun remote-cert-tls server ca /etc/openvpn/client/ca.crt cert /etc/openvpn/client/syscon9.crt key /etc/openvpn/client/syscon9.key tls-auth /etc/openvpn/client/vpn.key 1 comp-lzo log/var/log/openvpn.log log-append /var/log/openvpn.log verb 3 -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Thursday 25 February 2010 00:10:18 Alex Schuster wrote: This KMail window has spell checking which is nice to have. But when I open the spell checking dialog in order to add words to the dictionary, I always have to start at the very beginning and reply to all problems until I get to the word I want it to learn. You might like instead to try right-clicking on the word you want it to learn. Sorry if eggs meet grandmothers here. Oh, and it even has problems with numbers like 4.2. This looks to me like the typical example of a nice idea, but it's implemented so badly I just do not use it. I don't have any of these problems with kmail. It really is a first-rate program. -- Rgds Peter.
[gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge update process - something a GUI _ought_ to be able to resolve. In googling, I noticed Kuroo, but it's no longer maintained (nearly 2 years out of date now, so it would have to have been KDE3) so it's been understandably removed from mainline portage - though I also noticed information on a Kuroo overlay. And I also came across Porthole; however, all versions are marked Unstable/Testing (~) at the moment. Can anyone give some advice on these or others? Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] openvpn static ip
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 18:32 -0700, Joseph wrote: I've configured OpenVPN and it works OK but I can not seems to figure it out how to assign static IP to clients Put this your config config: client-config-dir client.d And then in client.d/ have a file for each client, e.g. # cat client.d/client ifconfig-push 192.168.0.4 192.168.0.1
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:40:23PM -0800, BRM wrote: I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge update process - something a GUI _ought_ to be able to resolve. In googling, I noticed Kuroo, but it's no longer maintained (nearly 2 years out of date now, so it would have to have been KDE3) so it's been understandably removed from mainline portage - though I also noticed information on a Kuroo overlay. And I also came across Porthole; however, all versions are marked Unstable/Testing (~) at the moment. Can anyone give some advice on these or others? Ben Well there's Paludis, all version are however marked ~arch at the moment. -- Zeerak Waseem pgpnA3vjX2mDE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] openvpn static ip
On 02/24/10 21:51, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 18:32 -0700, Joseph wrote: I've configured OpenVPN and it works OK but I can not seems to figure it out how to assign static IP to clients Put this your config config: client-config-dir client.d And then in client.d/ have a file for each client, e.g. # cat client.d/client ifconfig-push 192.168.0.4 192.168.0.1 The directory name shouldn't make any difference, I'm using directory name ccd; though I've tried the IP's you suggested, it makes no difference, still not getting static IP :-/ Thanks for suggestion, I've been on it all day and can not find the solution. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
BRM wrote: I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge update process - something a GUI _ought_ to be able to resolve. In googling, I noticed Kuroo, but it's no longer maintained (nearly 2 years out of date now, so it would have to have been KDE3) so it's been understandably removed from mainline portage - though I also noticed information on a Kuroo overlay. And I also came across Porthole; however, all versions are marked Unstable/Testing (~) at the moment. Can anyone give some advice on these or others? Ben In the case that there is not a GUI tool, why not run as root # tail -f /var/log/emerge.log It tells you what is being installed at present Another, to see what you are downloading is # tail -f /var/log/emerge-fetch.log Good Luck :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
BRM wrote: I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge update process - something a GUI _ought_ to be able to resolve. In googling, I noticed Kuroo, but it's no longer maintained (nearly 2 years out of date now, so it would have to have been KDE3) so it's been understandably removed from mainline portage - though I also noticed information on a Kuroo overlay. And I also came across Porthole; however, all versions are marked Unstable/Testing (~) at the moment. Can anyone give some advice on these or others? Ben Found a portage interface, though I cannot guarantee it works or what it does: app-portage/himerge Damien
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. Bingo! I'm OP, and kind of like the KDE look, and I'm used to where things are (except for the new K menu which I'm slowly adapting to). I know how to find things already, but indexing my gigabytes of game records is just silly. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.dewrote: On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple desktops. I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation toolchains or in a browser. The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from running out of disk space. A little research showed that an odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near full before. Put -semantic-desktop in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge -a --depclean. That should do it. Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? For KDE 4.4, +semantic-desktop is mandatory, though you can still turn off the services after installing them. Honestly, for what the OP appears to need out of a desktop environment, he'd be more than happy with Xfce or something and save a ton of disk space. How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the whole Semantic Desktop thingy. Bingo! I'm OP, and kind of like the KDE look, and I'm used to where things are (except for the new K menu which I'm slowly adapting to). I know how to find things already, but indexing my gigabytes of game records is just silly. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD Oh, and I'll add that I have no use for KMail. My mail is hosted elsewhere in Zimbra, yahoo and gmail, depending on the kind of mail, and I'm satisfied with the UIs that come with those. I access them from a large number of hosts, so don't want POP or similar access that makes local copies. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:42:25 + Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. Any suggestions? I'll add Claws Mail (mail-client/claws-mail) to the list of suggestions. It does three panes by default and has a gtk interface. As you can probably guess from the name, it does e-mail also. -- »Q« Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: BRM wrote: I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge update process - something a GUI _ought_ to be able to resolve. In googling, I noticed Kuroo, but it's no longer maintained (nearly 2 years out of date now, so it would have to have been KDE3) so it's been understandably removed from mainline portage - though I also noticed information on a Kuroo overlay. And I also came across Porthole; however, all versions are marked Unstable/Testing (~) at the moment. Can anyone give some advice on these or others? Ben In the case that there is not a GUI tool, why not run as root # tail -f /var/log/emerge.log It tells you what is being installed at present Another, to see what you are downloading is # tail -f /var/log/emerge-fetch.log Good Luck :) Another good tool is genlop. Just type in genlop -c and it will tell you what is emerging, what number the package is and the estimated times as well. What number the package is looks something like this: emerging #4 of 8 packages. That tells you it is on package 4 out of 8 that will be emerged. The estimated time only works if the package has been emerged at least once before. Sorry, it is command line. It appears you have already discovered about everything else. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: BRM wrote: I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge update process - something a GUI _ought_ to be able to resolve. In googling, I noticed Kuroo, but it's no longer maintained (nearly 2 years out of date now, so it would have to have been KDE3) so it's been understandably removed from mainline portage - though I also noticed information on a Kuroo overlay. And I also came across Porthole; however, all versions are marked Unstable/Testing (~) at the moment. Can anyone give some advice on these or others? Ben Found a portage interface, though I cannot guarantee it works or what it does: app-portage/himerge Damien I checked out the home page and that does look interesting. That's for sharing that one. The screen shots look better than porthole. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
Hello fellow, Me and Locke Shinseiko are developing a graphical tool to make portage daily tasks easier. It is called KPortageTray and you can find it on app- portage/kportagetray at kde overlay. It doesn't have a version relased yet, only git, because we need to implement some features and correct some bugs to make it good to use with KDE 4.4. My idea was a very different approach of himerge, portato, porthole, etc. I decided to use a very simple approach: it is a program that stays on systray and when you choose some action, it opens the konsole with the command you want using kdesu for root access. So, if you click at upgrade world, it will open a konsole with kdesu and will run emerge -vaNDu world. This is because the GUI may introduce an instability point at every process, since it can crash and make the upgrade process fail. Sabayon has a similar tool (sulfur) and users and devs advice to use it only for minor upgrades. So, with kportagetray, when konsole is opened, the process is totally detached from the GUI. Consequently, you can even close kportagetray without interrupting the selected action. It won't substitute the entire CLI of portage, but it is aimed for people who is tired to type the same commands every time to upgrade the system or do something else. I'm implementing some stuff to make life easier, like a periodic upgrade checks with a system message on systray (like Windows update program and sabayon system). When we get something good for daily use, I'll let you know. Regards, -- Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas Control and Automation Engineer Gentoo Foundation Member Em Qua 24 Fev 2010, às 23:40:23, BRM escreveu: I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge update process - something a GUI _ought_ to be able to resolve. In googling, I noticed Kuroo, but it's no longer maintained (nearly 2 years out of date now, so it would have to have been KDE3) so it's been understandably removed from mainline portage - though I also noticed information on a Kuroo overlay. And I also came across Porthole; however, all versions are marked Unstable/Testing (~) at the moment. Can anyone give some advice on these or others? Ben signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] kde4 - prints pdf file sideways
I just switched one of my machine to KDE4.3 and when I try to print pdf document it prints it sideways. I've tried Okurla and xpdf same effect. The pdf shows correctly on the screen and prints correctly from kde-3.5 Is it a bug or I need to make a correction/adjustment somewhere? -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
On 25 Feb 2010, at 05:32, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas wrote: ... Me and Locke Shinseiko are developing a graphical tool to make portage daily tasks easier. It is called KPortageTray and you can find it on app- portage/kportagetray at kde overlay. ... I decided to use a very simple approach: it is a program that stays on systray and when you choose some action, it opens the konsole with the command you want using kdesu for root access. So, if you click at upgrade world, it will open a konsole with kdesu and will run emerge -vaNDu world. Is this to say the application looks rather different that the screenshots you posted before? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/204446 Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] gnupg fails to decrypt on kmail
On Thursday 25 February 2010 00:09:17 Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:51:38PM +, Mick wrote: Why is this? Invoking gpg to decrypt different (encrypted) files always brings up that socket '/tmp/gpg-pNLb9Y/S.gpg-agent'. Shouldn't it be a different socket each time? I noticed that this morning (after a reboot) it was looking for a different socket ... Ack, let's do this one step at a time then. First let's try to figure out the problem with the gpg-agent. [snip...] In a new prompt, first paste the variable, then type gpg -vv *file* $ gpg-agent --daemon --no-detach --debug-level guru --log-file gpg-agent.log gpg-agent[6740]: enabled debug flags: command mpi crypto memory cache memstat hashing assuan GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-5Tgf3a/S.gpg-agent:6741:1; export GPG_AGENT_INFO; This is now what the log shows: 2010-02-25 06:45:53 gpg-agent[6740] listening on socket `/tmp/gpg-5Tgf3a/S.gpg-agent' 2010-02-25 06:45:53 gpg-agent[6741] gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.0.14 started 2010-02-25 06:48:32 gpg-agent[6741] handler 0x98caa38 for fd 7 started gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK Pleased to meet you gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - RESET gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OPTION ttyname=/dev/pts/3 gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OPTION ttytype=rxvt gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OPTION display=:0.0 gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OPTION lc-ctype=C gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OPTION lc-messages=C gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OPTION allow-pinentry-notify gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - GETINFO cmd_has_option GET_PASSPHRASE repeat gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - OK gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - GET_PASSPHRASE --data --repeat=0 -- A7029FW0V2G567G225FST52689GV822Rf230gkw8F X X Please+enter+the+passphrase+to+unlock+the+secret+key+ for+the+OpenPGP+certificate:%0A%22me+m...@gmail.com%22%0A2048-bit+ELG+key, +ID+,%0Acreated+2010-01-25+(main+key+ID+YYY).%0A 2010-02-25 06:48:32 gpg-agent[6741] DBG: agent_get_cache `A7029FW0V2G567G225FST52689GV822Rf230gkw8F'... 2010-02-25 06:48:32 gpg-agent[6741] DBG: ... miss 2010-02-25 06:48:32 gpg-agent[6741] starting a new PIN Entry gpg-agent[6741]: can't connect server: `ERR 67109133 can't exec `/usr/bin/pinentry-qt': No such file or directory' 2010-02-25 06:48:32 gpg-agent[6741] can't connect to the PIN entry module: IPC connect call failed 2010-02-25 06:48:32 gpg-agent[6741] command get_passphrase failed: No pinentry gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - ERR 67108949 No pinentry GPG Agent gpg-agent[6741.7] DBG: - [EOF] 2010-02-25 06:48:32 gpg-agent[6741] handler 0x98caa38 for fd 7 terminated Why is it trying to call /usr/bin/pinentry-qt?! `ERR 67109133 can't exec `/usr/bin/pinentry-qt' Is this a valid binary these days, or an older qt3 version? I think it should be /usr/bin/pinentry: $ ls -la /usr/bin/pinentry lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Feb 24 07:01 /usr/bin/pinentry - pinentry-qt4 Please note that the: Please+enter+the+passphrase+to+unlock+the+secret+key does not show up on the screen even when I use the gpg -vv option. -- Regards, Mick
