Re: [gentoo-user] emacs vs. gnome and xorg-1.5.3

2009-05-05 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 5 May 2009 07:41:34 -0400 David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote:

 On Tue, 5 May 2009 12:20:14 +0200
 Alex Schuster wrote:
 
  David Relson writes:
  
   I'm now running xorg-1.5.3 and emacs no longer works!  I've got
   emacs-22.3.1 installed.  Normally I can start it from the Gnome
   start menu or from a gnome terminal.  Now it seems that nothing
   happens when I start it from the start menu.  When I start it from
   a gnome terminal, emacs reports No fonts match '8x13'.  Anybody
   know how to fix this?
  
  Do you have media-fonts/font-misc-misc installed?
  
  Wonko
 
 H'lo Wonko,
 
 I didn't have that font installed.  After installing it and restarting
 xfs, the problem is still present.  Any other ideas?

What is the output of 'xlsfonts | grep 8x13' command? If it does not find 8x13
as well then check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/fs/config.

Or try not to use xfs if you do not need it (it is not needed on standard
desktop configuration). I'm not using xfs and emacs works fine after update to
xorg-server 1.5.3. You can remove entire 'Section Files' from your
xorg.conf I guess. However if it will not work for you, try to add 'FontPath
/usr/share/fonts/misc' line to section Files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emacs vs. gnome and xorg-1.5.3

2009-05-05 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 5 May 2009 23:22:28 -0400 David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote:

David Relson writes:
[snip]
 When I start it from a gnome terminal, emacs reports No
 fonts match '8x13'.  Anybody know how to fix this?
 
 'xlsfonts | grep 8x13' returns nothing.

Ok, that confirms that problem is not in emacs itself.

 'xlsfonts | grep x13' shows '6x13' and emacs --font=6x13 works,
 thought it's not ideal.
 
 /etc/X11/fs/config does have /usr/share/fonts/misc and that
 directory does have 8x13 fonts.
  
 With xorg-server-1.5.3, my xorg.conf has been reduced to 3 lines so that
 my keyboard and mouse would work, i.e.
 
Section ServerFlags
Option  AllowEmptyInput   false
EndSection

If you have just these lines in xorg.conf then you are probably not
using xfs. Try start X with and without xfs running, do 'xlsfonts |
wc -l' and compare results. If there will be no difference you can
unmerge xfs.

Back to 8x13... I must admit now it's a mystery for me why X does
not find 8x13 while it finds 6x13. Try following:

1. Do 'equery belongs /usr/share/fonts/misc'
This gives you list of all packages that have some files in misc directory.
2. Stop X.
3. Unmerge all packages listed in 1.
4. Remove all remaining files in misc directory (or move them
somewhere else).
5. Emerge packages unmerged in 3. (or you can try emerge just
font-misc-misc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Changes in the way USB devices are mounted

2008-08-10 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:03:34 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I suspect that something changed recently on the way that USB devices are 
 mounted.  I noticed that mounting a USB flash drive has stopped working as 
 follows:
[snip]
 $ pmount /dev/sda
 Error: device /dev/sda is not removable

Same problem here after upgrade to 2.6.25-r7. It seems that there is
a bug in sysfsutils: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220347.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Python blockage problem.

2008-08-03 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:24:32 -0400 David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 02 August 2008 05:54:35 pm Qian Qiao wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:14 PM, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   python-updater says it is blocked by an old version of python.
   Yet I have an up-to-date version of python installed.  This is
   keeping me from upgrading. Any help appreciated.
  
   [snip]
 
  Please search the list for previous discussions of this.
 
 I found such a thread, and I've been done what they said, except for
 removing the old one.
 
 I tried this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/dcorbin]# emerge -C =dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2
 
 --- Couldn't find '=dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2' to unmerge.

Your blocking version of python is probably not exactly 2.3.6-r2. Try:

emerge -C =dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sending IMs from a script

2008-01-16 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:04:31 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would have thought this was easy, but I've looked around and can't
 find a program that will send IMs from a script. I need to be able
 to send alerts to people from a monitoring program.

For jabber solution, emerge dev-python/xmpppy and then use this
script: http://xmpppy.sourceforge.net/examples/xsend.py to send
messages.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances

2007-08-14 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:50:36 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Another system wants to unmerge a bunch of crucial stuff
   with --depclean, including:
  
   x11-base/xorg-x11
   selected: 7.1
   protected: none
   omitted: none
  
   x11-apps/xdm
   selected: 1.0.5
   protected: none
   omitted: none
  
  Manually put both in: /var/lib/portage/world file (backup it, just
  in case).  Seems you had virtual/x11 which pulled all
  dependencies, but not anymore.
 
 I don't understand why they weren't depended on by gdm and (for
 example) firefox which are in my world file.

X applications doesn't need to depend on X server. You can run them
remotely from machine where X server is installed.

   The other system outputs a bunch of libtiff.la stuff about
   ImageMagick like:
  
   broken /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la
   (requires /usr/lib/libtiff.la)

I think these files does not belong to ImageMagick anymore. They are
some leftovers from previous version (however I don't understand why
they were not deleted). I had same issue with k3b. Check them with

equery belongs /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la

If nothing will be reported, you can delete them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances

2007-08-14 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:55:05 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Do I need xorg-x11 on a typical desktop system?  My laptop doesn't
   seem to think it is installed at all:
 
  Probably because it isn't, because you don't need it.
 
 Ok, what does xorg-x11 do?

It's meta package that installs xorg-server and some basic X11
stuff. Look into the ebuild and you'll understand. I think it is good
to have it installed on a typical desktop system.

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[gentoo-user] noatime option is ignored for /

2007-05-13 Thread Robert Cernansky
Hello,

I just found out that 'noatime' mount option is ignored on my system for
/ (root) partition. In /etc/fstab I have entry for /:

/dev/sda6  /   ext3 noatime,usrquota,grpquota

and 'mount' command shows:

/dev/sda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,usrquota,grpquota)

but /proc/mounts does not show noatime option:

/dev/root / ext3 rw,data=ordered,usrquota,grpquota 0 0

When I do 'cat some_file', 'ls -lu' shows that its access time _is_
modified. However I can do 'mount -o remount /' and filesystem is then
remounted correctly (access time is not modified anymore), I want to
ask if this is normal behaviour and remounting / after boot is common
solution.

The root of problem is probably the fact, that /etc/fstab is not
available when / is about to mount. But I did not find it mentioned in
any ext3 tweaking guide or so. Everywhere is just add noatime option
to fstab and you're fine. In Gentoo Handbook is also nothing about
it (and noatime option is used for /).

I think initrd could solve this problem but I do not want it.

Is noatime for / working for you?


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Re: [gentoo-user] noatime option is ignored for /

2007-05-13 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:28:41 +0200 Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robert Cernansky wrote:
  and 'mount' command shows:
 
  /dev/sda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,usrquota,grpquota)
 
  but /proc/mounts does not show noatime option:
 
  /dev/root / ext3 rw,data=ordered,usrquota,grpquota 0 0
 
 Hmm, same thing here:
[...]
 During a normal boot an ext2/ext3 root partition gets remounted: 
 first it gets mounted read-only in case it needs to be fschecked, 
 and then remounted read-write.
 
 I've changed the bootscripts to skip this double step, with the 
 unintended effect of not getting all options applied.  (Fixed now.)  
 Maybe you did too?

I didn't modified the init scripts. But now I looked what is starting
at boot and found out that / is remounted also during quotacheck - and
this is the one that causes the problem.

I've booted into single user mode and / was mounted correctly. Then
ran quotacheck and after that it was mounted without noatime. So it is
probably quotacheck bug. For now I added 'mount -o remount /' command
to /etc/local.start as a workaround.

Thank you all for your replies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and WindowMaker

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 22:55:53 -0600 Brad Camroux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 I've been trying to get WindowMaker working on my Gentoo box, so far
 without success.  It's very difficult to find anything on Google
 et. al., too about getting things working.  Today I managed to find
 the wmaker.inst program to install WindowMaker for the current user,
 but when I try to login and load WindowMaker, it just goes back to
 my kdm screen.  I've been using Fluxbox in the meantime, and really
 don't want to just give up and go back to KDE.  I want to use
 a nice, lightweight window manager.
 
 Does anyone have any ideas about configuring WindowMaker to work on
 Gentoo?  I know lots of people have done it, but nobody seems to
 write a detailed account of how.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brad

[Do not use 'reply' when you are posting a new message, please.]

No extra configuring is needed to run WindowMaker. Just to choose
'GNUStep WindowMaker' session in your display manager (kdm, gdm) and
login.

It seem that in your case wmaker is crashing or so. Try to remove
GNUstep directory from your home. If it does not help, look into the
file ~/.xsession-errors if there is some error.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and WindowMaker

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:29:43 -0600 Brad Camroux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 03:24:12PM +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote:
  
  No extra configuring is needed to run WindowMaker. Just to choose
  'GNUStep WindowMaker' session in your display manager (kdm, gdm)
  and login.
 
 How can I get the option 'GNUStep WindowMaker' to appear in my kdm
 login session list?  All I have are: 'default', 'custom', 'fluxbox',
 and 'failsafe'.  But I can't seem to find anywhere to change this,
 and selecting 'custom' or 'default' just crashes and returns to the
 kdm login screen.

I don't know exactly about kdm behaviour, but gdm reads .desktop files
from /etc/X11/dm/Sessions/ directory. Content of WindowMaker file
wmaker.desktop is folowing:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
# The names/descriptions should really be better
Name=GNUStep WindowMaker
Comment=Use this session to run WindowMaker as your desktop environment
Exec=/usr/bin/wmaker
Icon=
Type=Application

This file should be created by ebuild. If it exist, and kdm does not
show GNUstep WindowMaker entry, try to find out from where it reads
other enties (custom, fluxbox).

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Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable

2007-01-05 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:49:48 -0700 Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
  Looking at the Portage tree, I see that some packages are kept ~x86 
  for long time without any bugs referenced in the changelog or 
  Bugzilla. How are they being made stable (or where in the docs is the 
  process described)? 
 They need to be in the tree for at least 30 days, no bugs, and if 
 someone files a stable request ebuild, then an arch tester will test it, 
 and then a dev will keyword it stable.
 
 Most stuff doesnt get marked stable mostly because there aren't any 
 stable requests.

Stabilisation bug it not a requirement. Package should go to stable
after 30 days + no bugs even without stabilization bug. I have an
impresion that developers are _waiting_ for stabilization bugs which
is wrong.

I've raised a similar question few months ago. It's pretty long
discussion on -user and -dev:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/166565/
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/40719/

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Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable

2007-01-05 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:04:26 +0300 Andrey Gerasimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the threads. My impression is that the way stabilization
 works should be described in a place of high visibility, at least in
 the FAQ. I beleive this question will be asked again and again if
 new users do not see how stable is defined early. If they see the
 definition, no questions will be asked. For example, I do not think
 that developers waiting for bug reports to stabilize an ebuild is
 either wrong or correct.  It is just a part of the current
 definition of the term stable.

It is described in gentoo docs:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=1#doc_chap4

See part Moving package versions from ~ARCH to ARCH. I agree that
this is perhaps not a place with high visibility. Maybe it should be
included into FAQs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable

2007-01-05 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 07:33:31 -0700 Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
  On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:49:30 +0300, Robert Cernansky 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:49:48 -0700 Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Most stuff doesnt get marked stable mostly because there aren't
  any stable requests.
 
  Stabilisation bug it not a requirement.
 
 Actually, everything I said in that last email was a little off.
 Stabilization bugs are required because ultimately it is the
 architecture team that is going to mark it stable, not the
 developer.  There are some cases where things can go directly stable
 (such as security vulnerabilities), but those are the exception and
 not the rule.
 
 So if you want something stable, do all the checks, file a bug, and
 copy all the arches that it applies to.  You can see which ones use
 it on http://packages.gentoo.org/

I perfectly agree with your previous e-mail where you sayng that it's
a notice telling the developers that hey, someone wants it marked
stable. And I agree that stabilisation bugs are helping developers
and everybody should write it when appropriate. But it should not be
a requirement.

In documentation [1] it is not mentioned a stabilisation bug. Is there
any other documentation specific for architecture team that have
higher priorty?

The exception because of security bug, that you mentioned, allows to
ingnore 30 days + no bugs rule, it has nothing to do with
stabilisation bugs.

1. 
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=1#doc_chap4

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Re: [gentoo-user] I want my xmms

2007-01-03 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:05:18 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Throughout this thread many people have commented on audacious being a 
 resource hog of monumental proportions. Every single one of them is 
 wrong and this myth really needs to be debunked. Here's why:

I agree. I'm still using xmms so I can compare. Here are few lines
from top (displaying a Mem window - 'Shift+g 3'). Both players were
playing same mp3 file.

  PID %MEM  VIRT SWAP  RES CODE DATA  SHR nFLT nDRT S  PR %CPU COMMAND
 8810 10.9  172m  62m 109m 1620 108m 9104  7790 S  15  0.0 X
11170  9.7  308m 210m  97m   80 129m  19m  8970 S  15  0.0 firefox-bin
 7750  2.0  164m 143m  20m  480  41m  11m  1170 R  15  0.0 audacious
 7810  1.8 49940  30m  17m 1524   9m 5016   720 S  15  0.0 emacs
 7739  1.1  149m 138m  11m  984  59m 7816   490 R  15  0.0 xmms

Although audacious eats twice more resident memory than xmms, I think
it's not that bad to call it 'resource hog'. You can see real resource
hogs on the first two lines. :-)

Btw, how do you guys get so little virtual memory? :-O

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Re: [gentoo-user] How come my 'esearch' isn't updated when I emerge something until the next 'esync'?!

2006-11-18 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:35:28 +0100 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 either. As an extra bonus eupdatedb (which does look go through the vdb too) 
 is a lot slower that its eix equivalent (update-eix). ;) So can anyone 
 mention any advantage of esearch compared to eix?

I like esearch's compact output more than eix's. It shows if you
can/need update the package and if it is masked.

For example, here 'U' shows that I have installed older version of
screen so I should update it. And 'M' in next line shows that screenie
is masked. (Descriptions are cut.)

$ esearch -cF app-misc/screen
[ U] app-misc/screen (4.0.3):  Screen is a full-screen ...
[MN] app-misc/screenie (1.30.0):  Screenie is a small and ...


eix gives following output on the same request:

$ eix -cA app-misc/screen
[I] app-misc/screen (4.0.2-r5): Screen is a full-screen ...
[N] app-misc/screenie (): Screenie is a small and ...
Found 2 matches.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xmms alternative

2006-10-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:35:03 -0400 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:27:52PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote
  On Friday 27 October 2006 06:00, Walter Dnes wrote:
 
 amarok == Even worse than xine.  It's a Windows Media Player
   wannabee bloated frontend that ends up launching xine.  In
   addition to building xinelib, it also builds kde-base, ruby, and
   a bunch of other junk.
  
  Amarok is Microsofts wet dream.
  Amarok has so much more to offer.
 
   That insult against Amarok is stronger than anything else I can
 think of, and beautifully explains exactly what I find wrong with
 it.  Amarok constitutes a replacement for xmms just like an
 18-wheeler tractor-trailer combo constitutes a replacement for
 a half-ton pickup truck.
[...]

I agree with this. Amarok is not good replacement for xmms. It has
another philosophy which is similar to Windows Media Player. It has
also much higher requirements for resources in runtime and also in
dependecies/build time. Especially for non KDE users.

 [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask audacious

Yes, audacious is closest replacement that I found in stable amd64
tree. It has same philosophy as xmms.

But it missing several features. For me it is mainly gapless output,
xosd support and wide posibilites to control it via command line
(like xmms-pipe). Consider also tons of plugins for xmms.

I have emerged audacious to watch its development but I will stay with
xmms as long as it will be possible.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative

2006-10-27 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:25:02 -0400 sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is Audacious able to pull in CD info from the Internet?
 
 I see know way to configure for that function.

Preferences - Plugins - CD Audio Plugin - Preferences - CD Info

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Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:02:27 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 a) it is dead. For years
 
 b) it depends on a dead toolkit with godknowswhat security problems
 
 c) it becomes harder and harder to keep it alive
 
 d) the devs have better things to do than playing ICU for (almost) dead 
 software.

e) it works fine

f) it has no good alternative :-(


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome logout dialog in Ubuntu has way more options - how to get suspend?

2006-09-15 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:19:17 +0200 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That dialog has a lot more options than the dialog shown in Gentoo.
 In Gentoo, I do not have Ruhezustand (Hibernate) and the dialog
 looks a lot simpler.
 
 What do I have to do, to get the Ubuntu gnome logout dialog in
 Gentoo as well?

To add hibernate option you have to set SuspendCommand variable in
/etc/X11/gdm.conf. However I found out that if I set this to hibernate
script, it is not executed.

SuspendCommand=/usr/sbin/hibernate

I'm trying to get it work but I do not get any error message or error
log. Executing hibernate script from console works.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome logout dialog in Ubuntu has way more options - how to get suspend?

2006-09-15 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:50:59 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 15 September 2006 11:02, Robert Cernansky wrote:
 
  To add hibernate option you have to set SuspendCommand variable in
  /etc/X11/gdm.conf. However I found out that if I set this to
  hibernate script, it is not executed.
 
  SuspendCommand=/usr/sbin/hibernate
 
  I'm trying to get it work but I do not get any error message or
  error log. Executing hibernate script from console works.
 
 Just a thought:  do you need to sudo it?

Sudo did not help. I enabled debug logging for gdm but nothing useful
was logged.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emacs - (I think [the]) Fonts [are] Broken

2006-09-13 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:24:11 -0700 Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  quoth the Lord Sauron:
[...]
   What should I do to fix Emacs?  I hear it's a very powerful and
[...]
 Much more confused than before.  I get why I'd want to use unicode,
 but the instructions on how to do that were outdated or for a setup
 other than mine and they threw me off real quickly.

Did you try ran emacs in X also? Is there the same behaviour? In X you
can pres Shift + Left mouse click to select fonts.

You can also play with locale setting in your system. For example try
to start emacs with default/none locale:

$ LC_ALL=C emacs

To set emacs to use UTF-8 put this into your ~/.emacs file:

(setq locale-coding-system 'utf-8)
(set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
(set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
(set-selection-coding-system 'utf-8)
(set-clipboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
(prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
(modify-coding-system-alist 'file  'utf-8)
(setq process-coding-system-alist '((.* . utf-8)))
(setq x-select-request-type '(UTF8_STRING COMPOUND_TEXT TEXT STRING))

But it should not be necessary if you use some UTF-8 locale in your
system (emacs will use UTF-8 by default then). You can also try to
change the 'utf-8' string to some other (non utf-8) enconding, for
example iso-8859-1.

Try to emerge some basic X.Org fonts, for example
media-fonts/font-misc-misc. Also emerge media-fonts/intlfonts.

I hope it helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cdk compile problem

2006-09-03 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:23:17 +0200 dirk dil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My system is an amd64
 
 I'm trying to get my brand new digital camera to work with linux for
 which I need gphoto.  emerging that on my system throws the following
 error while compiling cdk:

Look to the bugzilla, there are (already fixed) bugs regarding this
problem (http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73435).

  emerge (1 of 2) dev-libs/cdk-5.0.20050424 to /

Current stable cdk is 5.0.20060220. You should do emerge --sync at
least.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting Photos From A Digital Camera

2006-09-03 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:13:51 -0700 Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Digikam works as well, when run as root.
 
 What file did you need to changer permissions on in order to get
 yours to work?

You (user) need to be in plugdev group.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Audio CD support

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:27:55 +0200 sdoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now I get a playlist but I have no sound. XMMS plays the tracks but
 there isn't anything to hear.
 I've unmuted even AUX (means everything) in alsamixer ... XMMS plays
 in stealth mode.

This is ok, so enemy can't hear you. :-)

Nevertheless, if you want to hear your CD playing try to to set
Digital audio extraction in CD Audio Player plugin's
options.

Probably you do not have connected CD-ROM and sound card with audio
cable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mod4 mapped to wrong keycode

2006-08-14 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:47:02 +0200 Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robert Cernansky wrote:
  Does anybody know how to activate this super_win setting?
 
   setxkbmap -option altwin:super_win

Great, it works! Thank You very much.

 On my machine Xorg refuses to recognize multiple XkbOptions, and 

It's strange. It works for me. With new altwin option it looks like
this in my xorg.conf:

Option XkbOptions grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,altwin:super_win

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mod4 mapped to wrong keycode

2006-08-13 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:53:55 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 8/12/06, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found out that Win key (Mod4) is not seen as modifier because it is
  mapped to wrong keycode:
 
 I think you are on the wrong track.  I have basically the same results
 on my system (laptop, so no right-side win-key):
 
 ~  xmodmap | grep mod4
 mod4Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80)
[...]
 And win-tab works fine for me with KDE.
[...]
 That said, I have no good idea why you are having a problem.  Are you
 getting the KeyRelease events?

Yes, KeyRelease events are ok. What leads me to this assumption is
that, when I remove Alt (Mod1) from modifier list, the Alt+TAB
switching behave same as Win+TAB (wrongly). And - when I removeadd
mod4 using command:

xmodmap -e clear mod4 -e add mod4 = Super_L

switching with Win+TAB works correctly. After this command the keycode
0x73 is included in mapping:

$ xmodmap | grep mod4
mod4Super_L (0x73),  Super_L (0x7f)

But this is not system solution. I would rather solve it system
wide, perhaps with correct setting of xkb (in xorg.conf
probably). After more digging in /usr/share/X11/xkb I found file
symbols/altwin where is defined:

xkb_symbols super_win {
key LWIN {[   Super_L ]   };
key RWIN {[   Super_R ]   };
modifier_map Mod4   { Super_L, Super_R };
};

This looks good but I have trouble to activate it. I mostly end up
with dead keyboard. I'm trying something like this:

setxkbmap -layout us -symbols pc+us+altwin -variant super_win

Does anybody know how to activate this super_win setting?

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Re[4]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

2006-07-26 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:58:23 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RF On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RF  On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:48:17 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RF
RF  RF Regardless, if there are packages you feel are ready to go
RF  RF to stable, you can file bugs on bugs.gentoo.org to
RF  RF request stabilization.
RF 
RF  Of course I can but I want to point out that this should happen
RF  occasionally. I reported several packages to be keyworded for amd64
RF  year ago and none of them is stable yet. So it seems to me that
RF  this is not bug, this is a rule.
RF 
RF Are these packages stable for x86?

Yes, they are stable for x86. One of it (app-emulation/fuse) have
no maintainer.

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Re[6]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

2006-07-26 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:40:23 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RF On 7/26/06, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RF  On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:58:23 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RF 
RF  RF On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RF  RF  Of course I can but I want to point out that this should
RF  RF  happen occasionally. I reported several packages to be
RF  RF  keyworded for amd64 year ago and none of them is stable yet. 
RF  RF  So it seems to me that this is not bug, this is a rule.
RF  RF
RF  RF Are these packages stable for x86?
RF 
RF  Yes, they are stable for x86.
RF 
RF Can you give an example or two?

net-im/tkabber
..and its dependencies:
dev-tcltk/tclgpgme
dev-tcltk/tclxml
dev-tcltk/tclxml-expat
dev-tcltk/tkTheme
dev-tcltk/tkXwin

app-text/cwtext
app-text/txt2pdbdoc
net-analyzer/etherape
app-emacs/table
x11-plugins/wmweather+
x11-plugins/docker
app-mobilephone/scmxx

app-emulation/fuse (no maintainer)
app-emulation/libspectrum
x11-plugins/mountapp
app-mobilephone/smssend

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

2006-07-25 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:48:17 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RF On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RF  How the developers are informed about packages that should go to
RF  stable? Is there posibility for developers to easily find these
RF  packages or get some notification about it?
RF 
RF Developers are generally expected to keep track of the packages they
RF are maintaining and decide when and if to move them to stable.  It is
RF possible you are looking at packages that have been orphaned.

Is the list of such packages available somewhere?

RF Regardless, if there are packages you feel are ready to go to stable,
RF you can file bugs on bugs.gentoo.org to request stabilization.

Of course I can but I want to point out that this should happen
occasionally. I reported several packages to be keyworded for amd64
year ago and none of them is stable yet. So it seems to me that
this is not bug, this is a rule.

PS: Richard, how do you read this mailing list? I have suspicion
that my mails do not arriving to mailing list. I see only your
reply, not my original post (this happened also with my previous
mail from 23. 7.).

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[gentoo-user] No more xorg upgrade?

2006-07-11 Thread Robert Cernansky
Hello,

I've recently synced. emerge -up world do not want to upgrade xorg-x11 to
7.0. Only upgrade from 6.8.2-r7 to 6.8.2-r8 is printed. Before this sync, the
xorg-x11 wants to be upgraded from 6.8.2-r7 to 7.0-r1.

Previous sync I did shortly after modular xorg becomes stable. I did not update
xorg yet nor did emerge -u world. It seems to be portage bug, isn't it?

Normal world update:

$ emerge -up world | grep xorg
[ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r8 [6.8.2-r7] USE=dlloader* 

When merging directly xorg-x11 it want to upgrade to 7.0-r1:

$ emerge -up xorg-x11 | grep xorg-x11-7.0
[blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1)
[ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1 [6.8.2-r7] INPUT_DEVICES=evdev% 
keyboard% mouse% -acecad% -aiptek% -calcomp% -citron% -digitaledge% -dmc% 
-dynapro% -elo2300% -elographics% -fpit% -hyperpen% -jamstudio% -joystick% 
-magellan% -magictouch% -microtouch% -mutouch% -palmax% -penmount% -spaceorb% 
-summa% -synaptics% -tek4957% -ur98% -vmmouse% -void% -wacom% 
VIDEO_CARDS=-apm% -ark% -chips% -cirrus% -cyrix% -dummy% -fbdev% -fglrx% 
-glint% -i128% -i810% -mach64% -mga% -neomagic% -nv% -nvidia% -r128% -radeon% 
-rendition% -s3% -s3virge% -savage% -siliconmotion% -sis% -sisusb% -tdfx% -tga% 
-trident% -tseng% -v4l% -vesa% -vga% -via% -vmware% -voodoo% 

Also when merging some package (which depend on X) with --update switch, it
also wants correctly to upgrade xorg to 7.0.

$ emerge -up xscreensaver | grep xorg-x11-7.0
[blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1)
[ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1 [6.8.2-r7] INPUT_DEVICES=evdev%...

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 09:37:45 +1200 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

NR 
NR On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:30:39 +0100
NR Graham Murray wrote:
NR 
NR  Maybe what is needed is an enhancement to portage to allow the removal
NR  of a meta-package to (optionally) also remove the 'real' packages
NR  which it caused to be installed.
NR 
NR u think about this.
NR 
NR new system, no gui installed.
NR 
NR I install kde-meta, which installs xorg-x11 as a dependency.
NR 
NR I decide I want gnome, I install gnome which doesn't install xorg,
NR because it is already installed.
NR 
NR I decide I do not want kde because i prefer gnome. I unsinstall
NR kde-meta. Under your scheme it would also uninstall xorg-x11. But that
NR is not what you want!

Hmm, it can be done with garbage collector principe. Each
package will have counter which increases when some package which depend on
it is installed. Decreased, when the package is uninstalled. If counter is
zero, dependency package can be uninstalled along with package specified
for uninstalling.

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Re[4]: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:11:39 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

AM On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:29 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote:
AM  
AM  Hmm, it can be done with garbage collector principe. Each
AM  package will have counter which increases when some package which
AM  depend on
AM  it is installed. Decreased, when the package is uninstalled. If
AM  counter is
AM  zero, dependency package can be uninstalled along with package
AM  specified
AM  for uninstalling.
AM 
AM No, that still doesn't work. When the user unmerges kde-meta, with your
AM proposal it will unmerge X11. The next step is that the user emerges
AM gnome which first emerges X11 back again. This isn't so bad with a
AM binary distro if the packages are on a CD, but on gentoo it's murder.
AM 

Yes, you are right. I did not consider this practical issue.

AM The only sane thing to do is to emerge dependencies when required and
AM unmerge only thinks specifically asked for to be unmerged. You can't
AM even reliably prompt the user with a dialog that says The following
AM dependencies of the package about to be unmerged are needed by no other
AM package. Shall they be unmerged? because of deep dependencies.
AM Reverse constructing a multi-node tree and applying logic to it is no
AM joke, hence the wise decision to have portage ignore this amazingly
AM efficient bug-injecting process.

Yes, its not so easy, i see now. ;-) Like Bo Andresen wrote --depclean is the
best way.

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Re[4]: [gentoo-user] SMBBrowser for automount

2006-02-11 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:46:36 +0100 CapSel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

C On 2/10/06, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
C 
C  In my case I see (I have mounted it in /mnt/smb):
C 
C  $ ls /mnt/smb/
C  WORKGROUP
C 
C  $ ls /mnt/smb/WORKGROUP
C  PC1 PC2 PC3 ...
C 
C  It is also possible omit WORGROUP, for example:
C 
C  $ ls /mnt/smb/PC1
C  share1 share2 ...
C 
C  I did not force it in any way. Did you specify your workgorup/domain in
C  config file?
C 
C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ smbnetfs ./smb
C SMBNetFs-0.3.3
C 
C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cd smb
C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/smb $ ls
C 
C Maybe I missed something but there is no option in smbnetfs.conf to
C specify workgroup, it's only specified in smb.conf which I linked from
C /etc/samba.

Strange. It is corect to specify workgroup in ~/.smb/smb.conf (or copy it
from /etc/samba) so your configs are probably OK. Do you have fuse module
loaded or compiled into kernel?

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Re: [gentoo-user] SMBBrowser for automount

2006-02-10 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:49:32 +0100 CapSel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

C This is my script that scans configured subnetwork for guest shares,
C makes entries for automount and restarts it.
C 
C Is this script helpful to someone? Is it worth to continue making it,
C or is there a better way to allow normal programs to browse smb
C network.

In the past I've also used similar script to mount smb shares. But recently
I've discovered SMBNetFS (http://smbnetfs.airm.net/) and I'm happy.

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] SMBBrowser for automount

2006-02-10 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:19:39 +0100 CapSel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

C  In the past I've also used similar script to mount smb shares. But recently
C  I've discovered SMBNetFS (http://smbnetfs.airm.net/) and I'm happy.
C 
C I did everything as on their page but I don't see any dirs or files
C inside. When I type cd komputer-name it shows shares, but I wanted to
C also see computer names as they wrote on page.
C Do you know how to force it?

In my case I see (I have mounted it in /mnt/smb):

$ ls /mnt/smb/
WORKGROUP

$ ls /mnt/smb/WORKGROUP
PC1 PC2 PC3 ...

It is also possible omit WORGROUP, for example:

$ ls /mnt/smb/PC1
share1 share2 ...

I did not force it in any way. Did you specify your workgorup/domain in
config file?

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Samba crashes after upgrading system

2005-07-17 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:45:00 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ZM Robert Cernansky wrote:
ZM  So I decide to downgrade glibc first, but it did not help. Then I 
downgrade
ZM  linux-headers and re-emerge (downgraded) glibc and samba (for sure). Again
ZM  without success. :-( I removed -ftracer at first of course.
ZM  
ZM  I'm stuck now. I don't believe that rebuild of whole system (without
ZM  -ftracer) fixes the problem because /usr/lib64/gconv/IBM852.so depends 
only
ZM  on libraries from glibc.
ZM
ZM Maybe something in your toolchain is broken.  If you don't have a
ZM trusted toolchain then you can borrow the toolchain from a livecd to
ZM rebuild gcc, binutils, and libtool.

Great idea with this livecd. I just replaced /usr/lib64/gconv/IBM852.so
with that one from livecd and it works! When I'll have more time I'll try
to rebuild toolchain as you suggested. Thank You.

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Samba crashes after upgrading system

2005-07-16 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:03:02 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ZM Robert Cernansky wrote:
ZM  Hello,
ZM  
ZM  I just upgraded my system (emerge -u world) and after restart samba do not
ZM  start. (Samba was not upgraded.) In the /var/log/messages I see:
ZM  [snip]
ZM  
ZM  Mounting network filesystems (smb shares) and various samba comands
ZM  (smbtree, smbstatus) also crashes. I've tried re-emerge samba but it did
ZM  not help. Any idea where could be the problem? I have amd64 system. The
ZM  important packages that was upgraded are:
[snip]
ZM Did you run revdep-rebuild after the update?  That's always a good idea 
when libraries are updated.

Yes, I did. Only openoffice-bin and opera were listed. I've also tried
emerge latest unstable version of samba (3.0.14a-r1) but it did not help.

I posted bugreport about this
(http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99184). Anyway, any
sugestions/workarounds are welcome.

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Samba crashes after upgrading system

2005-07-16 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:49:44 +0200 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RF Robert Cernansky wrote:
RF 
RF On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:03:02 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RF 
RF ZM Robert Cernansky wrote:
RF ZM  I just upgraded my system (emerge -u world) and after restart samba 
do not
RF ZM  start. (Samba was not upgraded.) In the /var/log/messages I see:
RF ZM  [snip]
RF ZM  
RF ZM  Mounting network filesystems (smb shares) and various samba comands
RF ZM  (smbtree, smbstatus) also crashes. I've tried re-emerge samba but it 
did
RF ZM  not help. Any idea where could be the problem? I have amd64 system. 
The
RF ZM  important packages that was upgraded are:
RF [snip]
RF ZM Did you run revdep-rebuild after the update?  That's always a good 
idea when libraries are updated.
RF 
RF Yes, I did. Only openoffice-bin and opera were listed. I've also tried
RF emerge latest unstable version of samba (3.0.14a-r1) but it did not help.
RF 
RF Rebuild without experimental optimization options if you want real 
RF support! ;-

Ouch. Should I recompile whole system (please no ;-)) or samba only? Or,
maybe samba and glibc and pam as Zac wrote that these are direct
dependancies.

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Samba crashes after upgrading system

2005-07-16 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:58:32 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ZM Robert Cernansky wrote:
ZM  On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:03:02 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ZM  
ZM  ZM Robert Cernansky wrote:
ZM  ZM  I just upgraded my system (emerge -u world) and after restart samba 
do not
ZM  ZM  start. (Samba was not upgraded.) In the /var/log/messages I see:
ZM  ZM  [snip]
ZM  ZM  
ZM  ZM  Mounting network filesystems (smb shares) and various samba comands
ZM  ZM  (smbtree, smbstatus) also crashes. I've tried re-emerge samba but 
it did
ZM  ZM  not help. Any idea where could be the problem? I have amd64 system. 
The
ZM  ZM  important packages that was upgraded are:
ZM  [snip]
ZM  ZM Did you run revdep-rebuild after the update?  That's always a good 
idea when libraries are updated.
ZM  
ZM  Yes, I did. Only openoffice-bin and opera were listed. I've also tried
ZM  emerge latest unstable version of samba (3.0.14a-r1) but it did not help.
ZM  
ZM Pam and glibc are direct dependancies of samba that you upgraded.  I
ZM would roll those back one by one to see if that helps.  Do you have binary
ZM packages of the old versions (from quickpkg or FEATURES=buildpkg)?

I read in some forums that downgrading glibc is not good idea. It is true?
I have not old binary packages but they are still in portage so I still can
install them. But at first I'll rebuild current versions without -ftracer.

Thanks.

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[gentoo-user] Samba crashes after upgrading system

2005-07-15 Thread Robert Cernansky
Hello,

I just upgraded my system (emerge -u world) and after restart samba do not
start. (Samba was not upgraded.) In the /var/log/messages I see:

Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]: [2005/07/15 23:59:25, 0] 
lib/fault.c:fault_report(36)
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]:   
===
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]: [2005/07/15 23:59:25, 0] 
lib/fault.c:fault_report(37)
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]:   INTERNAL ERROR: Signal 11 in pid 7829 
(3.0.10)
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]:   Please read the appendix Bugs of the Samba 
HOWTO collection
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]: [2005/07/15 23:59:25, 0] 
lib/fault.c:fault_report(39)
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]:   
===
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]: [2005/07/15 23:59:25, 0] 
lib/util.c:smb_panic2(1482)
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]:   PANIC: internal error
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]: [2005/07/15 23:59:25, 0] 
lib/util.c:smb_panic2(1490)
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]:   BACKTRACE: 22 stack frames:
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]:#0 /usr/sbin/smbd(smb_panic2+0x64) 
[0x575794]
[snip]
Jul 15 23:59:25 amit smbd[7829]:
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]: [2005/07/15 23:59:26, 0] 
lib/fault.c:fault_report(36)
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]:   
===
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]: [2005/07/15 23:59:26, 0] 
lib/fault.c:fault_report(37)
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]:   INTERNAL ERROR: Signal 11 in pid 7831 
(3.0.10)
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]:   Please read the appendix Bugs of the Samba 
HOWTO collection
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]: [2005/07/15 23:59:26, 0] 
lib/fault.c:fault_report(39)
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]:   
===
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]: [2005/07/15 23:59:26, 0] 
lib/util.c:smb_panic2(1482)
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]:   PANIC: internal error
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]: [2005/07/15 23:59:26, 0] 
lib/util.c:smb_panic2(1490)
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]:   BACKTRACE: 22 stack frames:
Jul 15 23:59:26 amit nmbd[7831]:#0 /usr/sbin/nmbd(smb_panic2+0x64) 
[0x481844]
[snip]

Mounting network filesystems (smb shares) and various samba comands
(smbtree, smbstatus) also crashes. I've tried re-emerge samba but it did
not help. Any idea where could be the problem? I have amd64 system. The
important packages that was upgraded are:

[ebuild U ] sys-libs/zlib-1.2.2-r1 [1.2.2] -build 0 kB 
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.11-r4 [1.3.11-r3] 0 kB 
[ebuild U ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11-r2 [2.6.8.1-r4] 0 kB 
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5 [2.3.4.20041102-r1] -build -debug -erandom 
-hardened (-multilib) +nls -nptl -nptlonly -pic (-selinux) +userlocales 0 kB 
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/libtool-1.5.18-r1 [1.5.16] 0 kB 
[snip]
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2  -bootstrap -doc -java -nocxx +tcltk 0 kB 
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2 [0.77-r6] +berkdb -nis -pam_chroot 
-pam_console -pam_timestamp -pwdb (-selinux) 0 kB 
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r3 [4.0.5-r3] +nls +pam (-selinux) -skey 
0 kB 
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/pam-login-3.17 [3.14] -livecd +nls (-selinux) 0 kB 
[snip]
[ebuild U ] sys-fs/udev-058 [056] (-selinux) -static 0 kB 

Thanks

Robert


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Re: [gentoo-user] Windowmaker Woes

2005-06-09 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:46:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I've just set up a shiny new AMD64 box, and I can't get many apps
 (mozilla, firefox, openoffice, wprefs, etc.) to run properly in
 windowmaker.  Open Office crashes, I can't see the windows with mozilla
 and firefox, and wprefs just dies without an error message.  And, of course, 
 everything works fine in gnome and fluxbox.
 
 Would anyone happen to know what might be going on?

Use unstable version 0.91.0-r4. See
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88445.

I don't know why it take so long to make it stable, especially when current
stable don't work properly. :-(

Robert


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