Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-23 Thread Tom Fairhurst 
It's been 5 years sinc I purchsed a computer, but I remember finding Norton 
stored on my coputer. Even though it ws not being used, the fac that the 
program was even installed was causing unexpected behaviors  for my 
computer. I had to get hep working with the registry and changing 
permissions with registry keys to make things work properly. As I have said 
in my other posts, be very carefuly when playing with your registry. You 
thik you have problems now, your computer may turn into a complete disaster 
if the wrong move is made--perhaps even needing to reinstall Windows. Good 
luck.


-Original Message- 
From: cheez

Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Thanks, Steve for your suggestions.  I'll check this stuff out.
As far as I know, I only have McAfee installed.

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" <pipeguy...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


It really has nothing to do with the manufacturer of a laptop.  I have 
owned three HP laptops over the years; as well as Acer and Averatec's.


For the most part, a laptop is a laptop; they mainly vary in how the 
keyboard is layed out.


*CONSIDERATIONS*

Most manufactuers install a lot of "bloatware" on the laptop.  When you 
got it, did you get rid of all that extra crap?

You could start with a program like PC DeCrapifier.

Have you made sure you don't have conflicting anti-virus programs running? 
Again, a lot of manufacturers include trial anti-virus programs. Uninstall 
them if you're not going to use that particular one; most of them supply 
McAfee or Symantek.


Third, look at your bootup programs.  Open the Msconfig program and go to 
that list.  Uncheck things you don't need to necessarily run at start-up. 
Many programs that you install think they need to run at start-up, it 
isn't wholely necessary.  Example: you don't really need Dropbox or 
Microsoft Office etc. running at startup.  You do, of course, want your 
anti-virus, various windows services, and of course, Jaws to run.



As somebody else mentioned, you can find websites to help you identify 
programs and/or processes that you can then consider not being necessary.


After you make adjustments in your MsConfig file, you need to enable 
"selective startup" so that only those items you designated will run at 
start-up.


As somebody else mentioned, if you had a dual-boot setup, you will have a 
delay that they specified so you can choose which operating system you 
wanted to start with.


It may also make a difference if you have a regular disk drive (not a 
solidstate drive), to clean it (get rid of unnecessary and temporary 
files), then take a look at the defragmentation report to see if you c 
ould gain some efficiencies by de-fragging your disk.


This won't affect boot-up times, but it will speed up your access.  When 
you shutdown, you could choose to put your laptop in Sleep mode rather 
than completely shutting it down.  This will put your currently open 
programs and windows into memory, so that when you wake it up, all you 
need to do is enter your password and you'd be up and running again.


And, as a last resort, sometimes you just get so much garbage in the 
installation of windows and programs, that just doing a clean re-install 
of windows and restoring your programs and files after that would be an 
option. To me, it's a pain in the butt, so the slow boot-up times would 
really have to bother me to do that.
- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a friend of 
mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "David Pearson" <dpears...@wi.rr.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn

Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-23 Thread cheez 

Thanks, Steve for your suggestions.  I'll check this stuff out.
As far as I know, I only have McAfee installed.

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" <pipeguy...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


It really has nothing to do with the manufacturer of a laptop.  I have 
owned three HP laptops over the years; as well as Acer and Averatec's.


For the most part, a laptop is a laptop; they mainly vary in how the 
keyboard is layed out.


*CONSIDERATIONS*

Most manufactuers install a lot of "bloatware" on the laptop.  When you 
got it, did you get rid of all that extra crap?

You could start with a program like PC DeCrapifier.

Have you made sure you don't have conflicting anti-virus programs running? 
Again, a lot of manufacturers include trial anti-virus programs. 
Uninstall them if you're not going to use that particular one; most of 
them supply McAfee or Symantek.


Third, look at your bootup programs.  Open the Msconfig program and go to 
that list.  Uncheck things you don't need to necessarily run at start-up. 
Many programs that you install think they need to run at start-up, it 
isn't wholely necessary.  Example: you don't really need Dropbox or 
Microsoft Office etc. running at startup.  You do, of course, want your 
anti-virus, various windows services, and of course, Jaws to run.



As somebody else mentioned, you can find websites to help you identify 
programs and/or processes that you can then consider not being necessary.


After you make adjustments in your MsConfig file, you need to enable 
"selective startup" so that only those items you designated will run at 
start-up.


As somebody else mentioned, if you had a dual-boot setup, you will have a 
delay that they specified so you can choose which operating system you 
wanted to start with.


It may also make a difference if you have a regular disk drive (not a 
solidstate drive), to clean it (get rid of unnecessary and temporary 
files), then take a look at the defragmentation report to see if you c 
ould gain some efficiencies by de-fragging your disk.


This won't affect boot-up times, but it will speed up your access.  When 
you shutdown, you could choose to put your laptop in Sleep mode rather 
than completely shutting it down.  This will put your currently open 
programs and windows into memory, so that when you wake it up, all you 
need to do is enter your password and you'd be up and running again.


And, as a last resort, sometimes you just get so much garbage in the 
installation of windows and programs, that just doing a clean re-install 
of windows and restoring your programs and files after that would be an 
option. To me, it's a pain in the butt, so the slow boot-up times would 
really have to bother me to do that.
- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a friend of 
mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "David Pearson" <dpears...@wi.rr.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws 
home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-23 Thread Valiant8086 

Hi.


I tend to agree. I've made a decision myself to stay away from HP from 
now on. I might go back on that if I see some really well built machine 
some time in my future but if the two HP's I have right now are any 
indication they appear to be making painstaking effort to introduce 
failure points in order to keep people needing to buy new models. Just 
my own opinion, but I've worn out hinges on two completely different hp 
models and I'm about tired of that bs. Now I'm trying out these 
transformmer 2 in 1 models that have the screen can flip all the way 
around backwards upside down against the bottom of the computer so you 
can turn it over and have screen up, keyboard down and use it like a big 
tablet. I'm not particularly concerned about using it like a tablet but 
I think this capability necessitates tougher hinges and I'm rather 
interested to put that to the test. So far so good my Lenovo Yoga 2 
pro's hinges are holding up decenntly. They're a little more wobbly than 
they were when I first bought it, but there are no cracks, which was 
what went wrong with both of my HP's.



Those HP's are both aluminum machines, and their hinges are made out of 
plastic. Now ask me why I think they intentionally made a failure point. 
I mean, come on, plastic hinge housings on an otherwise all aluminum 
computer! Oh, sure, metal parts inside, but they pull on the plastic 
that houses them every time you move the lid a bit, so when the plastic 
breaks, the metal doesn't have anything to hold to.



In any event, one of my first reassurances now when computer shopping 
has to do with the hinge build quality. The ones that go all the way 
across like tosheba likes to do, and mac laptops, is nice though a 
friend on this list has one made that way and it's cracked. Thecold 
metal ones like the flip odels have is nice too, and I suspect the so 
called watchband hinge lenovo yoga 900 and yoga 910 have is excellent.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 9/22/2017 7:56 AM, cheez wrote:
I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a 
friend of mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - From: "David Pearson" <dpears...@wi.rr.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives 
me nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 
seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws 
home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett 
I disagree. There is alot that goes on in the bios and this is specific 
to each brand. also choices in hardware can make a big difference in how 
well a system works. Otherwise you would just buy the cheapest one you 
could find and it would be fine.
I have owned Quantex, Gateway,Dell, HP, Asus, Sony, Lanovo, Alienware 
and built PCs with Asus, Gigabyte, Azroc, Foxcon, MSI, Micro and others 
I cant remember.

They all had quirks and benifits to each. Never liked HP.
On 9/22/2017 11:36 AM, Steve wrote:
It really has nothing to do with the manufacturer of a laptop.  I have 
owned three HP laptops over the years; as well as Acer and Averatec's.


For the most part, a laptop is a laptop; they mainly vary in how the 
keyboard is layed out.


*CONSIDERATIONS*

Most manufactuers install a lot of "bloatware" on the laptop. When you 
got it, did you get rid of all that extra crap?

You could start with a program like PC DeCrapifier.

Have you made sure you don't have conflicting anti-virus programs 
running? Again, a lot of manufacturers include trial anti-virus 
programs.  Uninstall them if you're not going to use that particular 
one; most of them supply McAfee or Symantek.


Third, look at your bootup programs.  Open the Msconfig program and go 
to that list.  Uncheck things you don't need to necessarily run at 
start-up. Many programs that you install think they need to run at 
start-up, it isn't wholely necessary.  Example: you don't really need 
Dropbox or Microsoft Office etc. running at startup. You do, of 
course, want your anti-virus, various windows services, and of course, 
Jaws to run.



As somebody else mentioned, you can find websites to help you identify 
programs and/or processes that you can then consider not being necessary.


After you make adjustments in your MsConfig file, you need to enable 
"selective startup" so that only those items you designated will run 
at start-up.


As somebody else mentioned, if you had a dual-boot setup, you will 
have a delay that they specified so you can choose which operating 
system you wanted to start with.


It may also make a difference if you have a regular disk drive (not a 
solidstate drive), to clean it (get rid of unnecessary and temporary 
files), then take a look at the defragmentation report to see if you c 
ould gain some efficiencies by de-fragging your disk.


This won't affect boot-up times, but it will speed up your access.  
When you shutdown, you could choose to put your laptop in Sleep mode 
rather than completely shutting it down.  This will put your currently 
open programs and windows into memory, so that when you wake it up, 
all you need to do is enter your password and you'd be up and running 
again.


And, as a last resort, sometimes you just get so much garbage in the 
installation of windows and programs, that just doing a clean 
re-install of windows and restoring your programs and files after that 
would be an option. To me, it's a pain in the butt, so the slow 
boot-up times would really have to bother me to do that.

- Original Message - From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a 
friend of mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP 
laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - From: "David Pearson" <dpears...@wi.rr.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went 
from window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives 
me nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 
seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows 
zero, overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said 
"Jaws home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something 
to be

concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





For answers to frequently asked q

Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Steve 
It really has nothing to do with the manufacturer of a laptop.  I have owned 
three HP laptops over the years; as well as Acer and Averatec's.


For the most part, a laptop is a laptop; they mainly vary in how the 
keyboard is layed out.


*CONSIDERATIONS*

Most manufactuers install a lot of "bloatware" on the laptop.  When you got 
it, did you get rid of all that extra crap?

You could start with a program like PC DeCrapifier.

Have you made sure you don't have conflicting anti-virus programs running? 
Again, a lot of manufacturers include trial anti-virus programs.  Uninstall 
them if you're not going to use that particular one; most of them supply 
McAfee or Symantek.


Third, look at your bootup programs.  Open the Msconfig program and go to 
that list.  Uncheck things you don't need to necessarily run at start-up. 
Many programs that you install think they need to run at start-up, it isn't 
wholely necessary.  Example: you don't really need Dropbox or Microsoft 
Office etc. running at startup.  You do, of course, want your anti-virus, 
various windows services, and of course, Jaws to run.



As somebody else mentioned, you can find websites to help you identify 
programs and/or processes that you can then consider not being necessary.


After you make adjustments in your MsConfig file, you need to enable 
"selective startup" so that only those items you designated will run at 
start-up.


As somebody else mentioned, if you had a dual-boot setup, you will have a 
delay that they specified so you can choose which operating system you 
wanted to start with.


It may also make a difference if you have a regular disk drive (not a 
solidstate drive), to clean it (get rid of unnecessary and temporary files), 
then take a look at the defragmentation report to see if you c ould gain 
some efficiencies by de-fragging your disk.


This won't affect boot-up times, but it will speed up your access.  When you 
shutdown, you could choose to put your laptop in Sleep mode rather than 
completely shutting it down.  This will put your currently open programs and 
windows into memory, so that when you wake it up, all you need to do is 
enter your password and you'd be up and running again.


And, as a last resort, sometimes you just get so much garbage in the 
installation of windows and programs, that just doing a clean re-install of 
windows and restoring your programs and files after that would be an option. 
To me, it's a pain in the butt, so the slow boot-up times would really have 
to bother me to do that.
- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a friend of 
mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "David Pearson" <dpears...@wi.rr.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett 

LOL I agree with him! :)
On 9/22/2017 4:56 AM, cheez wrote:
I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a 
friend of mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - From: "David Pearson" <dpears...@wi.rr.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives 
me nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 
seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws 
home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Randy Barnett 
In msconfig under the boot tab is the option to remove any other OS's if 
any from the boot manager. The timeout wont allow anything less than 3 
seconds..

On 9/22/2017 8:05 AM, Valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.


If you're interested in throwing money at a problem like this, a solid 
state disk is the answer. Other than that, just getting the boot 
process to be more efficient is the key, but the challenge is knowing 
just what is being inefficient about it. Some computers have a boot 
selection menu that appears if the system has some sort of or has in 
the past had some sort of dual boot capability. If this appears it'll 
wait for a good 30 seconds or so for you to pick the OS you want to 
start before it starts up the default one, and this problem can be 
present even if it is no longer dual boot capable.



If this is the issue, you can fix it either by removing the extra OS 
(don't know how to do that on the top of my head), or go to run and 
type msconfig. On the boot tab of the resulting screen, set the 
timeout to 5. I wouldn't recommend setting it lower than 2 because it 
might make it impossible to do certain recovery actions before the 
boot process starts, and that's not desirable. So the idea here is to 
get the screen to come up just long enough to be able to tap the right 
button or what have you, but not long enough to lag the boot process 
moere than a few seconds. Be careful in msconfig, there are plenty of 
intricate and interesting ways to break things in there. Don't change 
anything you're not positive you understand.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;




On 9/22/2017 9:56 AM, Tom Fairhurst wrote:
My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having 
trouble with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability
Desk. The lady who helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed 
up my computer at startup by disabling a number of programs in 
msconfig. I don't recommend looking at this lightly because doing so 
without knowing what you are doing could keep your computer from 
starting properly. once I understood what she was doing, things 
indeed went much  faster, even though I put back a few programs I 
wanted. Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in 
combination wwith other programs, or not JAWS related at all.


-Original Message- From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives 
me nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 
seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws 
home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread cheez 
I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a friend of 
mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

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From: "David Pearson" <dpears...@wi.rr.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread JM Casey 
There are also some nice sites online that list and describe all common
processes, which should help you decide which ones you can get rid of to
help speed up your machine. But like Tom said, you don't want to go in there
cancelling processes if you don't know what they are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: September 22, 2017 9:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having trouble
with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability Desk. The lady who
helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed up my computer at startup
by disabling a number of programs in msconfig. I don't recommend looking at
this lightly because doing so without knowing what you are doing could keep
your computer from starting properly. once I understood what she was doing,
things indeed went much  faster, even though I put back a few programs I
wanted. Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in combination
wwith other programs, or not JAWS related at all.

-Original Message-
From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from window
eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:
>Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
>Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
>nuts!
>
>Vince
>
>- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
><laurak...@gmail.com>
>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>>Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..
>>
>>
>>
>>Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
>>seconds and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.
>>
>>
>>
>>Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
>>Jaws said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows 
>>zero, overlay windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws 
>>said "Jaws home use" and I was ready to go.
>>
>>
>>
>>I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
>>Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be 
>>concerned about?  Thanks for any input.
>>
>>
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Valiant8086 

Hi.


If you're interested in throwing money at a problem like this, a solid 
state disk is the answer. Other than that, just getting the boot process 
to be more efficient is the key, but the challenge is knowing just what 
is being inefficient about it. Some computers have a boot selection menu 
that appears if the system has some sort of or has in the past had some 
sort of dual boot capability. If this appears it'll wait for a good 30 
seconds or so for you to pick the OS you want to start before it starts 
up the default one, and this problem can be present even if it is no 
longer dual boot capable.



If this is the issue, you can fix it either by removing the extra OS 
(don't know how to do that on the top of my head), or go to run and type 
msconfig. On the boot tab of the resulting screen, set the timeout to 5. 
I wouldn't recommend setting it lower than 2 because it might make it 
impossible to do certain recovery actions before the boot process 
starts, and that's not desirable. So the idea here is to get the screen 
to come up just long enough to be able to tap the right button or what 
have you, but not long enough to lag the boot process moere than a few 
seconds. Be careful in msconfig, there are plenty of intricate and 
interesting ways to break things in there. Don't change anything you're 
not positive you understand.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 9/22/2017 9:56 AM, Tom Fairhurst wrote:
My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having 
trouble with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability
Desk. The lady who helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed 
up my computer at startup by disabling a number of programs in 
msconfig. I don't recommend looking at this lightly because doing so 
without knowing what you are doing could keep your computer from 
starting properly. once I understood what she was doing, things indeed 
went much  faster, even though I put back a few programs I wanted. 
Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in combination wwith 
other programs, or not JAWS related at all.


-Original Message- From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use." Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
<laurak...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws 
home

use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never 
happened.

Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread Tom Fairhurst 
My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having trouble 
with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability
Desk. The lady who helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed up my 
computer at startup by disabling a number of programs in msconfig. I don't 
recommend looking at this lightly because doing so without knowing what you 
are doing could keep your computer from starting properly. once I understood 
what she was doing, things indeed went much  faster, even though I put back 
a few programs I wanted. Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in 
combination wwith other programs, or not JAWS related at all.


-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread David Pearson 
My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me nuts!

Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-22 Thread cheez 

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me nuts!

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Laura Richardson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-19 Thread HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
Have you tried a restart rather than shutdown first to see if it still happens?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Laura Richardson
Sent: 19 September 2017 11:50
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds and 
then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said 
"Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay windows 
zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home use" and I was 
ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be 
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-19 Thread Sharon S 
Hi, I hear this sometimes when starting my machine and I just guessed it was
something to do with the sign in page of windows. Do you have to put in a
password? I do and it is on this window I sometimes get this message.

I don't think it is anything to worry about.

Bye for now.
>From Shaz.


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Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Hello,

 

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 .. 

 

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.

 

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.

 

I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.

 

Laura

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-19 Thread JM Casey 
Ah, that's a good explanation. No. 2 happens to me all the time, or at least
often.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Valiant8086
Sent: September 19, 2017 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Hi.


I think one of two things.


1. You got a Windows update, and it was quickly finishing up the update
installation process, and JAWS had enough time to launch itself in the
secure desktop environment prior to the point where the update finished and
you were either put on the log in screen or logged in.


2. For some reason JAWS managed to launch itself once in some other desktop
environment before it ended what ever it was doing. This is related to 1
actually. You'll sometimes hear a screen reader start itself while a system
is shutting down too, this can occur if it spends enough time on the secure
desktop environment after your account is logged off before it actually
shuts down.


This doesn't hurt anything aside from that it can cause the system to take a
little longer to do what ever it's supposed to be doing. The trade off
though is to disable JAWS on the log on screen and this isn't particularly
desirable in most cases.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 9/19/2017 6:50 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   
>
> Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..
>
>   
>
> Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
> seconds and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.
>
>   
>
> Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds 
> Jaws said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows 
> zero, overlay windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws 
> said "Jaws home use" and I was ready to go.
>
>   
>
> I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
> Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be 
> concerned about?  Thanks for any input.
>
>   
>
> Laura
>
>   
>
>   
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-19 Thread Valiant8086 

Hi.


I think one of two things.


1. You got a Windows update, and it was quickly finishing up the update 
installation process, and JAWS had enough time to launch itself in the 
secure desktop environment prior to the point where the update finished 
and you were either put on the log in screen or logged in.



2. For some reason JAWS managed to launch itself once in some other 
desktop environment before it ended what ever it was doing. This is 
related to 1 actually. You'll sometimes hear a screen reader start 
itself while a system is shutting down too, this can occur if it spends 
enough time on the secure desktop environment after your account is 
logged off before it actually shuts down.



This doesn't hurt anything aside from that it can cause the system to 
take a little longer to do what ever it's supposed to be doing. The 
trade off though is to disable JAWS on the log on screen and this isn't 
particularly desirable in most cases.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 9/19/2017 6:50 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

  


Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..

  


Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.

  


Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.

  


I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.

  


Laura

  

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

2017-09-19 Thread JM Casey 
Sounds like your computer might be going to "sleep" rather than shutting
down properly. Although I don't hear JAWS announce the name of the overlay
window (if you do a window list keystroke command with shift-f10 you will
find this), I do experience similar things from time to time. I don't think
it's anything to worry about. Maybe try doing an actual restart  (as in,
using the restart option in the shutdown menu). This will ensure that
anything that's gone off is reset, and any updates awaiting will be properly
installed.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: September 19, 2017 6:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Hello,

 

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 .. 

 

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.

 

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay
windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.

 

I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.

 

Laura

 

 

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