[lace] Warding off arthritis
Of course, the main point is that once you've got any form of arthritis, you can't ward it off - you've got it. What you can do is to try and stop it getting worse (just about impossible) by doing things in a way that causes it the least aggravation. Just to illustrate that I'm more interested in the process than the finished item, I'm finishing off one of Christine Springett's small Bucks Point fans, and so far, I've reverse laced the finishing edge 4 times, and I don't mind a bit. Following the instructions that came with it for throwing out 2 pairs at each picot along the finishing edge meant that I still ended up with a bundle of 9 pairs of passives in a bundle to neatly finish off. On my fifth attempt it looks like I'll still end up with 5 pairs - the two permanent pairs inside the picot, plus one other and two pairs which were the alternating workers on the footside, but that's a lot better than 9. I'll probably settle for that. Jean - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Warding off arthritis
Liz wrote: She might have just held the bottom tip, - or the spangle (a definate No-No!!) If I didn't hold bobbins by the spangles I would be able to make lace at all, so it's too bad if it's a No-No!!, I'll continue doing it - I have no intention of giving up the one of the few remaining crafts I can still do. There are no lace police. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Warding off arthritis
Why is holding the bobbin by its spangle a no no??? Surely how you hold a bobbin to make lace is immaterial. Making lace is the important bit is`nt it??? If you still can make lovely lace by holding a certain part of the bobbin then do so. Why should we give up lacemaking because of disability??? To suggest such a thing is unfair. I`m with Jean on this. Daphne Norfolk England From: j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Warding off arthritis Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:15:07 +0100 Liz wrote: She might have just held the bottom tip, - or the spangle (a definate No-No!!) If I didn't hold bobbins by the spangles I would be able to make lace at all, so it's too bad if it's a No-No!!, I'll continue doing it - I have no intention of giving up the one of the few remaining crafts I can still do. There are no lace police. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos Free. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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I agree if the choice was hold them by the spangle or not lace I would do just as I needed to. Much more important to make lace and enjoy making it. Mostly making lace is quite good for the blood pressure too, when its working well and I am enjoying the rhythm of the bobbins. Sue T, Dorset UK Why is holding the bobbin by its spangle a no no??? Surely how you hold a bobbin to make lace is immaterial. Making lace is the important bit is`nt it??? If you still can make lovely lace by holding a certain part of the bobbin then do so. Why should we give up lacemaking because of disability??? To suggest such a thing is unfair. I`m with Jean on this. Daphne Norfolk England From: jean@ She might have just held the bottom tip, - or the spangle (a definate No-No!!) If I didn't hold bobbins by the spangles I would be able to make lace at all, so it's too bad if it's a No-No!!, I'll continue doing it - I have no intention of giving up the one of the few remaining crafts I can still do. There are no lace police. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Warding off arthritis
I often pick up the bobbins by the spangle, as I find it a lot easier. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Daphne Martin wrote: Why is holding the bobbin by its spangle a no no??? Surely how you hold a bobbin to make lace is immaterial. Making lace is the important bit is`nt it??? If you still can make lovely lace by holding a certain part of the bobbin then do so. Why should we give up lacemaking because of disability??? To suggest such a thing is unfair. I`m with Jean on this. Daphne Norfolk England From: j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Warding off arthritis Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:15:07 +0100 Liz wrote: She might have just held the bottom tip, - or the spangle (a definate No-No!!) If I didn't hold bobbins by the spangles I would be able to make lace at all, so it's too bad if it's a No-No!!, I'll continue doing it - I have no intention of giving up the one of the few remaining crafts I can still do. There are no lace police. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis
It's very interesting to read what experience you made and heard about metall and arthritis. Here in Germany they don't believe in copper but in magnetism. And there excist extremly expensive methods to get such radition treatment, nine times for 980 Euro only for the hands. My doctor told me, that there are people it helps and other them doesn't help it. One thing is true if any joints are thick and deformed nothing can made them again normal. Only against the pain can doctors try to help and moving the joins steadily - making lace for example. With you less pain over Easter and later on Ilske in still sunny and warm Hamburg in Germany - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] warding off arthritis
My feelings about this are that yes working lace with arthritis does work (up to a point) no huge weights pulling on your hands and for us craft lacemakers we can work at our own speed. the movements do prevent my hands and fingers getting too painful and stiff, so great and enjoyable to. People do and did all sorts of things that we may consider wives tales. But if you think it might help you and isn't actually harming you then many people do or did wear copper bracelets or whatever for their comfort. I am keeping on keeping on exercising my fingers working my lace and keeping them young and fit, g and enjoying what I do. sue T Sorry Elizabeth, I sent this email direct to you as opposed to the 'list. One of my bobbin resource people (you know I am not a lace maker and have to rely on others for practical advice) Showed me that she certainly did not handle the leopard bobbins in any way that would involve her touching the protruding lumps pewter. Perhaps others handle their bobbins differently. I love tradition and old wives tales, but you cant really think that touching pewter when lace making will help your arthritis! Having said that, if you thinks it helps, then that is fine by me:) In the old days one Always had a leopard bobbin( wood with pewter spots) on the pillow, to ward off arthritis. Patty - I would not hold your breath, if I were you!! :)) Sorry!! Still you never know! Some of these old remedies Do work! :)) With arthritic fingers one is happy to try Anything!! (I her sanity!! Her daughter had to mount the lace on the cloth, but lacemaking was the only thing she could do - with thicker threads, of course. I have a couple of prs of her bobbins, now - a group of us were given them after she passed away, and I use them for gimps. They are perfect, and a nice reminder of a lovely lady. So if your hands are a problem, - keep making lace. It really is good for you! Regards from Liz in Melbourne lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis
FWIW my great uncle swore that the wives tales of wearing copper to ward off arthritis were true once he tried it himself, and always wore a copper bracelet when he was older. Copper 'bracelets' have been used on horses with arthritis, with good results, and as they (the horses) don't respond to the placebo effect, there must be something in it. But they don't make lace either, so this should probably be on chat :-) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis
Copper bracelets didn't work for me either. I don't have arthritis, but they are said to cure any body pains as well so I tried one - it just made me so very sleeeppy (more than I usually am)! Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Jean Nathan Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 7:12 PM To: Lace Subject: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in 1992. Most of the time it's controlled well, with the occasional flare. I swear that the drift of fingers towards the little finger have been suppressed to a great extent by making lace, picking up the bobbins by the spangles and inserting the pins (mostly not straight), and by using a computer keyboard. Just two fingers are drifting. I noticed that the only one of my fingers that has never been swollen is the one with my wedding ring. Gold injections were given as a treatment to some people, so I wondered if a small amount of gold was being absorbed through my skin. My consultant said that the amount absorbed would be so small to have no effect, but I tried wearing gold rings on all my fingers anyway - it didn't work, but I felt it was worth a try. A physiotherapist suggested wearing a copper bangle. I said I thought it was a placebo effect, and didn't really believe it would have any real effect. She said that you have to bear in mind that there are electrical impulses going on all the time inside the body, and it's possible that, if the pathways are slightly out of align, a copper or magnetic bracelet could be enough to realign them and thereby reduce pain if that was the cause. She has a point, but it's never worked for me. Lucie wrote: A kind word, a smile, a warm cup of tea, faith (in almost anything and anyone), a belief, can all support the immune system and the body's natural healing processes. As rheumatoid arthritis is the result of the immune system attacking joints, I don't really want a supported immune system - I wish it would just stop wrongly trying to fight what it thinks shouldn't be there! As there are over 90 different types of arthritis, what works in controlling pain and swelling for one won't necessarily work for another. We all have to find what works for us. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Hi, Brian And I replied to you privately, too No, I can tell you a Leopard bobbin does Not ward off arthritis!!! :))My late friend had Gold injections to try to help her, - but not Pewter! :) However, they are pretty on the pillow working away amongst all the other pretty bobbins!! :)) I can't see how anyone could use the bobbin without touching the spots, as they are all up the shank, and all around it, not just up one side. She might have just held the bottom tip, - or the spangle (a definate No-No!!) The amount of lead you Might get through your fingers is negligable. I am a Target Pistol shooter, and have been for 30 years. I have had my lead levels checked a couple of times, and I am in the Low Normal range. I do mainly Air Pistol these days, so handle about 50 - 70 lead pellets for each match, and nothing shows up in my blood!!! So the tiny bit on a pewter spot on a bobbin is not worth mentioning!! I love these Old Wives Tales/Superstitions too. The one mentioned in the Springett book about never starting a new piece on a Friday was my contribution!!! My Gran would not start a new piece on a Friday. She Always got a few pins in on Thursday, however late at night, so that it was on the go for the next day!! My daughter, Helen, and I follow suit - well, we don't want to tempt the Gods too much! :)) If we get a piece that keeps going wrong - then we try to remember back to see if we started it on a Friday. We blame a Friday anyway! :)) I came across a mention of the same thing in a book about Henry VIII and his court. Apparently a Friday was an Inauspicious day to start a journey or new venture, - and that was an old idea Then. It was handed down from the Dark Ages, it said, so who am I to Tempt the Fates? :)) Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz lizl...@bigpond.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 341 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] warding off arthritis
In the old days one Always had a leopard bobbin( wood with pewter spots) on the pillow, to ward off arthritis. Patty - I would not hold your breath, if I were you!! :)) Sorry!! Still you never know! Some of these old remedies Do work! :)) With arthritic fingers one is happy to try Anything!! (I know, and can sympathise with you.) Bobbin lace is just about the only handcraft that suits crippled hands. A now gone friend had the most terribley crippled hands due to arthritis, and had to give up all her crafts - till she discovered bobbin lacemaking. Her DH made her some thick bobbins that she could manage, and she made a Huge banquet table-sized tablecloth edge - 6 - 8 inches wide, - and she said it saved her sanity!! Her daughter had to mount the lace on the cloth, but lacemaking was the only thing she could do - with thicker threads, of course. I have a couple of prs of her bobbins, now - a group of us were given them after she passed away, and I use them for gimps. They are perfect, and a nice reminder of a lovely lady. So if your hands are a problem, - keep making lace. It really is good for you! Regards from Liz in Melbourne lizl...@bigpond.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 341 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Sorry Elizabeth, I sent this email direct to you as opposed to the 'list. One of my bobbin resource people (you know I am not a lace maker and have to rely on others for practical advice) Showed me that she certainly did not handle the leopard bobbins in any way that would involve her touching the protruding lumps pewter. Perhaps others handle their bobbins differently. I love tradition and old wives tales, but you cant really think that touching pewter when lace making will help your arthritis! Having said that, if you thinks it helps, then that is fine by me:) - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com To: Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: [lace] warding off arthritis In the old days one Always had a leopard bobbin( wood with pewter spots) on the pillow, to ward off arthritis. Patty - I would not hold your breath, if I were you!! :)) Sorry!! Still you never know! Some of these old remedies Do work! :)) With arthritic fingers one is happy to try Anything!! (I know, and can sympathise with you.) Bobbin lace is just about the only handcraft that suits crippled hands. A now gone friend had the most terribley crippled hands due to arthritis, and had to give up all her crafts - till she discovered bobbin lacemaking. Her DH made her some thick bobbins that she could manage, and she made a Huge banquet table-sized tablecloth edge - 6 - 8 inches wide, - and she said it saved her sanity!! Her daughter had to mount the lace on the cloth, but lacemaking was the only thing she could do - with thicker threads, of course. I have a couple of prs of her bobbins, now - a group of us were given them after she passed away, and I use them for gimps. They are perfect, and a nice reminder of a lovely lady. So if your hands are a problem, - keep making lace. It really is good for you! Regards from Liz in Melbourne lizl...@bigpond.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 341 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3998 (20090409) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
