Re: [LegacyUG] Help required
Try this: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/help4Over2.asp But I think there is a typo in 1. Before you install 6.0. I suppose this should read as Before you install 7.0 again, because the user had allready installed 7.0 over 6.0. Evert 2009/9/22 Catherine Birch c.bi...@clear.net.nz: I have been told that you are a help agency! Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe. I already had Legacy 6. I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then. I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6. I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the uninstall feature. Legacy 6 is still there. I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does not show there, only y7. If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will be grateful. Thank you Catherine Birch Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order
Robert Arens wrote I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first child one year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 years younger than the husband. In some large family groups I've been off by as much as 40 years. Which is why I don't like estimating unless I have a fairly good idea to within a year or two of when the event happened. Leaving a birthdate blank means I don't know when this person was born, putting in abt 1820 means something like the 1851 Census showed an age of 30 so this person was probably born between April 1820 and March 1821. If I thought someone was born in 1820 and they were really born in 1780 it could seriously skew my research! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Help required
Catherine Birch wrote Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe. I already had Legacy 6. I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then. I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6. You problems uninstalling Legacy 6 have been responded to by another LUGger, but what do you mean by it will only come in 6? The whole point of a gedcom file is that it is not program- or version-specific. You can create a gedcom in Legacy 6 or Legacy 7 and then import it into either or into a completely different program. FWIW, I worked for a long time with both Legacy 6 and Legacy 7 installed on this computer and it caused me no problems at all. My main family file was in version 7, but I often used 6 to look at how things used to be done, to check an old file or to find a solution to a problem another LUGger was having with Legacy 6. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order
When you have a file like mine with over 200 people with the same name (Nicholas Arens), born between 1500 and 2009, I need a method to roughly sort them into approximate decades and centuries.. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote: Robert Arens wrote I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first child one year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 years younger than the husband. In some large family groups I've been off by as much as 40 years. Which is why I don't like estimating unless I have a fairly good idea to within a year or two of when the event happened. Leaving a birthdate blank means I don't know when this person was born, putting in abt 1820 means something like the 1851 Census showed an age of 30 so this person was probably born between April 1820 and March 1821. If I thought someone was born in 1820 and they were really born in 1780 it could seriously skew my research! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Bob Arens Vice President Chief Financial Officer EagleVisions Energy LLC www.eaglevisionsenergy.com 1-952-430-7000
Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages
I did the speed test and these are the results... download 3.89 upload 1.00 so now tell me what that means. michele - Original Message - From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages This is getting slightly off topic but since it does directly affect Legacy users that are trying to upload web pages, here is one more shot at things to remember: 1. Your upload speed is not affected by choice of operating systems; Vista or XP have no effect on your upload speed. 2. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your amount of RAM (unless you are so underspec but then you'd notice problems with just running any programs. For the average system, adding additional RAM will not increase your upload speed. 3. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your brand of computer. 4. Your upload speed is not defined by merely saying cable modem, DSL, satellite, etc, all of which are loosely defined as broadband but bandwidth can and does vary widely. Some cable modem connections are only 768K while others are up to 18Mbps (that's over 23 times faster). 5. A dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that your upload speed is almost always severely reduced over what your download speed is supposed to be. 6. Another dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that your up/download speed is not guaranteed but rather sold to you as up to X Mbps. Your results may varyand they will. 7. The speed and efficiency of the server to which you are uploading will affect the time it takes you to transfer files. Normally, it isn't much of a factor unless you are using AOL, etc. If you don't know for sure, call and ask your ISP exactly what speed package you are paying for: you need two numbers as an answer. For example, a typical answer might be 3 Meg down and 256K up. Note that in this example it's the 256K upload speed which determines how long it takes for you to upload web pages. Finally (and really getting off topic now), if you are still having long delays uploading web pages, go here to test your ACTUAL speed as opposed to what you are paying for: http://www.speedtest.net/ Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:cranberryf...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages I have a Dell laptop with 2GB RAM. I am running Vista. I am not uploading any pictures at all. I use a cable modem for my internet connection. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2387 - Release Date: 09/21/09 17:55:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf
Suzanne: I'm a huge creator of PDF files and have been for a number of years. I used to save and scan all of my sources to PDF files because I dislike having tons of paper files. Digital is better. However, over the years when incorporating them into genealogy software they can become quite heavy when you have to use the external PDF Reader software to view them compared to reading the images within the program. PDFs are good for storing all kinds of data and in some programs like the full version of Adobe Acrobat, you can save the PDFs as image files. I did that for a lot of census records that I couldn't find images for as well as my own scans. I recently converted most of my PDFs over to images because they are smaller in size, but I still preserve the quality and resolution in case I need to zoom into to read something. My PDF source collection takes up about five DVDs because many of the files are so large. In contrast the images take up less than one DVD. I still use PDFs for multiple-paged documents because it just makes better sense than having a bunch of images from the same source. When I was using FTM 2009, I hated when the thumbnail showed the Adobe logo in place of an image so I converted many of them over. I guess it's up to the user as to what their preference will be later on down the road when you have thousands of images/PDFs. One big advantage of using the PDF files is that you can add notes to the file that would otherwise have to be added in the genealogy program. I don't know if the reader lets you do this since I use the full version. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Suzanne Scheraga Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf I am confused about the advantages (or disadvantages) of attaching documents instead of image files. For example, I have some naturalization records saved as jpgs, and others as pdfs. I like that the documents come up in the picture gallery because I think it is almost as exciting to see a census record from 1910 as it is to see a picture from that year. But multi-page documents must have multiple images instead of one single file which makes it awkward. And I understand that the documents cannot be included in a report. Does anyone have suggestions as to the best way to solve this dilemma? Thanks from a newbie, Suzanne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Help required
I would uninstall both, then reinstall Legacy 7. If you have any utilities that will clean up your registry you might want to consider running them. I do this after uninstalling anything as well as deleting any configuration files that most uninstall utilities leave behind. Such as under Documents and Settings. I also remove the folder for the program because it can be left behind as well. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Catherine Birch Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Help required I have been told that you are a help agency! Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe. I already had Legacy 6. I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then. I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6. I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the uninstall feature. Legacy 6 is still there. I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does not show there, only y7. If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will be grateful. Thank you Catherine Birch Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order (dates or no dates?)
Seems like someone recently posted here (I have a stickie on this!) that they use abt 1820 when the year has been indicated by a source; e.g., census listing. But they use est 1820 when they're using some other algorithm to come up with the year; e.g., Robert's calculations. Anything with abt can help research; anything with est is just a help to identify people in the list. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams From: Robert Arens bob.aren...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:02:42 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order When you have a file like mine with over 200 people with the same name (Nicholas Arens), born between 1500 and 2009, I need a method to roughly sort them into approximate decades and centuries.. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Robert Arens wrote I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first child one year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 years younger than the husband. In some large family groups I've been off by as much as 40 years. Which is why I don't like estimating unless I have a fairly good idea to within a year or two of when the event happened. Leaving a birthdate blank means I don't know when this person was born, putting in abt 1820 means something like the 1851 Census showed an age of 30 so this person was probably born between April 1820 and March 1821. If I thought someone was born in 1820 and they were really born in 1780 it could seriously skew my research! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Does anyone know how to increase max number of children from 60 to 99
Carl - Could you expand a bit on your system of tagging the individuals and/or the groups. I have a lot of unrelated folks in my system, and this might help me better manage the files. Bob Carl Cox ct...@getgoin.net wrote: I like the two suggestions I received. Thank you. I will start using the suggested approach instead of my current approach. I agree, it's misleading to have unconnected people linked as siblings. A couple of thoughts. I have a tag to designate unlinked individuals and groups. Also, using the tree finder, it would be easy to find all the unlinked trees, and they can also be tagged from there. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Help required
Do *not* delete the program folder unless you have saved your Data folder to another location. Not only does it contain your working file but also your backup. In fact if you delete the program folder you will also lose *all* your settings. I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know exactly what you are doing. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: 22 September 2009 15:53 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required I would uninstall both, then reinstall Legacy 7. If you have any utilities that will clean up your registry you might want to consider running them. I do this after uninstalling anything as well as deleting any configuration files that most uninstall utilities leave behind. Such as under Documents and Settings. I also remove the folder for the program because it can be left behind as well. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Catherine Birch Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Help required I have been told that you are a help agency! Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe. I already had Legacy 6. I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then. I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6. I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the uninstall feature. Legacy 6 is still there. I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does not show there, only y7. If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will be grateful. Thank you Catherine Birch Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2387 - Release Date: 09/21/09 17:55:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages
Offhand, I would say you have excellent connectivity to the Internet. Uploading your Legacy web pages should not be much of a problem. Your specific numbers indicate a 3.89 megabit download speed which is very good. You are probably paying for a 4 megabit connection but if you are actually paying for a 6 megabit connection, then it is time to complain to your ISP because they are not living up to the bargain. Your upload speed is 1 megabit which is also very good. You are probably paying for a 1 megabit connection which means you are getting 100% of what you are supposed to be getting. That is almost unheard of so I suspect that you are probably supposed to be getting a 1.5 megabit connection which means you are still getting a good portion of what you are paying for. These speeds are always sold as a package, i.e., 4/1.5 or 6/2. Only your ISP can tell you what you are paying for. The bottom line is that with an upload speed of 1 megabit, you should have no problem uploading Legacy web pages. With a 1 megabit upload, it took longer for me to type this message than you could upload 100 pages. By the way, I should add that for anybody thinking it is taking too long to upload any web pages, under no circumstances could the problem ever be anything to do with Legacy. I think any further discussions about network connectivity should probably be taken to a different forum or else email me privately and I'll be glad to help. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:cranberryf...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages I did the speed test and these are the results... download 3.89 upload 1.00 so now tell me what that means. michele - Original Message - From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages snip Finally (and really getting off topic now), if you are still having long delays uploading web pages, go here to test your ACTUAL speed as opposed to what you are paying for: http://www.speedtest.net/ Brian in CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please
Jenny M Benson wrote I have a Comment on a Master Source which is *not* checked for inclusion in Reports, but it is being included, and it is included on every Citation using that Master Source. Further information about this. I now see why this is occurring. On some SW templates (I have now seen it on ArtifactsPrivately held and Family Group SheetPrivately held) there is a field named Comments on the Source Info screen, the main screen for inputting Master Source data. Any text which is entered into the usual Comments about this master source field are automatically copied into the Comments field. Obviously the Comments field is not picking up on the contents of the checkbox for Include on Reports which appears under the Comments about this master source. (Nor the First time/Each time radio buttons.) I wonder if a Legacy staffer could comment on whether or not this is intentional. I hope it is *not* because I usually use the Comments about this master source for information which I do not wish to have appear on Reports and where the entry is quite long I certainly don't want it appearing every time the Master Source is cited. I can conceive of occasions when one would want to add a Comment to be part of the printed Master Source *and* Comments about this master source which were not for publication. For the moment I am working around the problem by including my long not-for-publishing comments in the Copy of the text from this master source field over which I have some control! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order
I have taken to putting in an estimated birth date for partners for the people I am connected to as Robert says just to try and make sense of things. I use @185ish, and ish is really generous G It alerts me that it isn't a census age, and really tells me I have to get to work on that person G Eliz On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Robert Arens wrote I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first child one year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 years younger than the husband. In some large family groups I've been off by as much as 40 years. Which is why I don't like estimating unless I have a fairly good idea to within a year or two of when the event happened. Leaving a birthdate blank means I don't know when this person was born, putting in abt 1820 means something like the 1851 Census showed an age of 30 so this person was probably born between April 1820 and March 1821. If I thought someone was born in 1820 and they were really born in 1780 it could seriously skew my research! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Help required
There is a serious error in my last post. The last sentence should read: I recommend that you do *not* follow this advice unless you know exactly what you are doing. My apologies. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ - Original Message - From: Ron Ferguson To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: 22 September 2009 17:46 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help required Do *not* delete the program folder unless you have saved your Data folder to another location. Not only does it contain your working file but also your backup. In fact if you delete the program folder you will also lose *all* your settings. I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know exactly what you are doing. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: 22 September 2009 15:53 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required I would uninstall both, then reinstall Legacy 7. If you have any utilities that will clean up your registry you might want to consider running them. I do this after uninstalling anything as well as deleting any configuration files that most uninstall utilities leave behind. Such as under Documents and Settings. I also remove the folder for the program because it can be left behind as well. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Catherine Birch Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Help required I have been told that you are a help agency! Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe. I already had Legacy 6. I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then. I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6. I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the uninstall feature. Legacy 6 is still there. I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does not show there, only y7. If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will be grateful. Thank you Catherine Birch Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2387 - Release Date: 09/21/09 17:55:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2388 - Release Date: 09/22/09 05:51:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Help required
I'm thinking that people don't save their data files to the same location as the program--at least I don't. I should have mentioned this would be for the advanced computer users especially anything to do with the registry and after an uninstall not before. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help required Do *not* delete the program folder unless you have saved your Data folder to another location. Not only does it contain your working file but also your backup. In fact if you delete the program folder you will also lose *all* your settings. I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know exactly what you are doing. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: 22 September 2009 15:53 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required I would uninstall both, then reinstall Legacy 7. If you have any utilities that will clean up your registry you might want to consider running them. I do this after uninstalling anything as well as deleting any configuration files that most uninstall utilities leave behind. Such as under Documents and Settings. I also remove the folder for the program because it can be left behind as well. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Catherine Birch Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Help required I have been told that you are a help agency! Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe. I already had Legacy 6. I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then. I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6. I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the uninstall feature. Legacy 6 is still there. I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does not show there, only y7. If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will be grateful. Thank you Catherine Birch Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2387 - Release Date: 09/21/09 17:55:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal
After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a new one that is just as messed up as the first. I just discovered that I have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell. I'm finding two Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without. She is not listed twice in the index for some strange reason. With the husband, she's listed as the husband and her husband is listed as the wife. When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a female. I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm ready to say the hell with it. Last night I updated all of the cemetery photo information and relinked everything. All grave images are linked, but the other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of duplicates. I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to converting between genealogy programs. It's getting so genealogy is not fun anymore and not worth all this work. It's more of a pain having to relink over 8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing images. It needs improvement. Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order (dates or no dates?)
For what it's worth, I use Cal 1820 when a dob is calculated from a record such as a census listing or age at death. Legacy accepts this as well as Cal 20 Nov 1820 and even a date range such as Cal 1820-1826 (for when sources differ). I wasn't comfortable with the Cal abbreviation in the beginning because in my mind it indicates calendar while Calc would indicate calculated, but I'm getting used to it now, and I see that others use it too. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:51 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order (dates or no dates?) Seems like someone recently posted here (I have a stickie on this!) that they use abt 1820 when the year has been indicated by a source; e.g., census listing. But they use est 1820 when they're using some other algorithm to come up with the year; e.g., Robert's calculations. Anything with abt can help research; anything with est is just a help to identify people in the list. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages
My web pages = about 35.73. At an upload speed of 1.00, should it still be taking 2 hours? michele - Original Message - From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages Offhand, I would say you have excellent connectivity to the Internet. Uploading your Legacy web pages should not be much of a problem. Your specific numbers indicate a 3.89 megabit download speed which is very good. You are probably paying for a 4 megabit connection but if you are actually paying for a 6 megabit connection, then it is time to complain to your ISP because they are not living up to the bargain. Your upload speed is 1 megabit which is also very good. You are probably paying for a 1 megabit connection which means you are getting 100% of what you are supposed to be getting. That is almost unheard of so I suspect that you are probably supposed to be getting a 1.5 megabit connection which means you are still getting a good portion of what you are paying for. These speeds are always sold as a package, i.e., 4/1.5 or 6/2. Only your ISP can tell you what you are paying for. The bottom line is that with an upload speed of 1 megabit, you should have no problem uploading Legacy web pages. With a 1 megabit upload, it took longer for me to type this message than you could upload 100 pages. By the way, I should add that for anybody thinking it is taking too long to upload any web pages, under no circumstances could the problem ever be anything to do with Legacy. I think any further discussions about network connectivity should probably be taken to a different forum or else email me privately and I'll be glad to help. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf
Bill, Adobe Reader is able to add annotations to a PDF if the appropriate user rights have been applied to the PDF. I suspect that the PDF must also be created as interactive (not printform). Applying user rights might be done by the software that creates the PDF, or even after the fact by software such as Adobe Acrobat. Previous posting to this list have suggested that certain third party PDF readers can ignore user rights and perform some tasks that Adobe Reader would restrict. Ward - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf ... I guess it's up to the user as to what their preference will be later on down the road when you have thousands of images/PDFs. One big advantage of using the PDF files is that you can add notes to the file that would otherwise have to be added in the genealogy program. I don't know if the reader lets you do this since I use the full version. Bill Boswell ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please
Jenny, I think you should just go ahead and report that as a bug. If it was ever intentional, then it was a design bug (as opposed to a programming bug). After the 'Comments about this master source' have been surreptitiously copied to the 'Comments' field, can you manually clear the Comments field, as a workaround? Ward - Original Message - From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please Jenny M Benson wrote I have a Comment on a Master Source which is *not* checked for inclusion in Reports, but it is being included, and it is included on every Citation using that Master Source. Further information about this. I now see why this is occurring. On some SW templates (I have now seen it on ArtifactsPrivately held and Family Group SheetPrivately held) there is a field named Comments on the Source Info screen, the main screen for inputting Master Source data. Any text which is entered into the usual Comments about this master source field are automatically copied into the Comments field. Obviously the Comments field is not picking up on the contents of the checkbox for Include on Reports which appears under the Comments about this master source. (Nor the First time/Each time radio buttons.) I wonder if a Legacy staffer could comment on whether or not this is intentional. I hope it is *not* because I usually use the Comments about this master source for information which I do not wish to have appear on Reports and where the entry is quite long I certainly don't want it appearing every time the Master Source is cited. I can conceive of occasions when one would want to add a Comment to be part of the printed Master Source *and* Comments about this master source which were not for publication. For the moment I am working around the problem by including my long not-for-publishing comments in the Copy of the text from this master source field over which I have some control! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] FW: More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal
Forget my previous message. I exported from FTM to a GEDCOM and had Legacy ignore the image links. I'm going to relink all the images later after I do some cleanup. The problem isn't there with this new import. I just have to stay away from The Master Genealogist importing of FTM2009 files then exporting to GEDCOM. It's messing things up royally. I really need to read the PDF User's Manual I purchased a few weeks ago. -Original Message- From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:59 PM To: Legacy Family Tree List Subject: More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a new one that is just as messed up as the first. I just discovered that I have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell. I'm finding two Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without. She is not listed twice in the index for some strange reason. With the husband, she's listed as the husband and her husband is listed as the wife. When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a female. I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm ready to say the hell with it. Last night I updated all of the cemetery photo information and relinked everything. All grave images are linked, but the other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of duplicates. I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to converting between genealogy programs. It's getting so genealogy is not fun anymore and not worth all this work. It's more of a pain having to relink over 8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing images. It needs improvement. Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal
You could try to Swap Husband and Wife ... in Legacy (menu Edit) Evert have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell. I'm finding two Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without. She is not listed twice in the index for some strange reason. With the husband, she's listed as the husband and her husband is listed as the wife. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal
Bill, Have you done as suggested by others and loaded your GEDCOM, as recommended, into a new Legacy file before merging it into your main Legacy DB? Whilst I have never needed to load a large an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy, I do know that those who have recommend this practice. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: Legacy Family Tree List Sent: 22 September 2009 18:59 Subject: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a new one that is just as messed up as the first. I just discovered that I have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell. I'm finding two Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without. She is not listed twice in the index for some strange reason. With the husband, she's listed as the husband and her husband is listed as the wife. When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a female. I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm ready to say the hell with it. Last night I updated all of the cemetery photo information and relinked everything. All grave images are linked, but the other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of duplicates. I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to converting between genealogy programs. It's getting so genealogy is not fun anymore and not worth all this work. It's more of a pain having to relink over 8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing images. It needs improvement. Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Help required
Oh, too late. I deleted everything. :-) Brian in CA From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help required There is a serious error in my last post. The last sentence should read: I recommend that you do *not* follow this advice unless you know exactly what you are doing. My apologies. Ron Ferguson _ snip I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know exactly what you are doing. Ron Ferguson _ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf
I think you're speaking of the permissions for sharing with people who are only using the Reader. I forgot to mention that I'm using the latest Adobe Acrobat software. I don't remember what the capabilities were of previous versions, or the Reader since I don't use it. I believe version 9.xx has more capabilities that previous versions did not. I like creating forms in the new version. Version 8.xx and 9.xx allow you to attach non-Adobe formats to your PDFs such as spreadsheets, documents, etc. Bill -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Ward Walker Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf Bill, Adobe Reader is able to add annotations to a PDF if the appropriate user rights have been applied to the PDF. I suspect that the PDF must also be created as interactive (not printform). Applying user rights might be done by the software that creates the PDF, or even after the fact by software such as Adobe Acrobat. Previous posting to this list have suggested that certain third party PDF readers can ignore user rights and perform some tasks that Adobe Reader would restrict. Ward - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf ... I guess it's up to the user as to what their preference will be later on down the road when you have thousands of images/PDFs. One big advantage of using the PDF files is that you can add notes to the file that would otherwise have to be added in the genealogy program. I don't know if the reader lets you do this since I use the full version. Bill Boswell ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Minor problem using Access to convert a source's format
We had a problem report on the issue of combining sources in our system. It was marked as resolved in our latest update so I tested it today. I have now passed it back to the programmers for more work. You should not have to edit the source and cancel before the combine button works. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: Hi Paula, That is just a simple quirk of Legacy since Source Writer Sources were introduced. When you Highlite ANY Source Writer Source and then click the Combine Highlighted Source with another in List button all the radio buttons on top right should go greyed out except for the Cancel button. Just click Edit Cancel Combine Highlighted Source with another in List button. Now it will go to grey and you can combine the 2 sources. Thank Ron Ferguson for that solution. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal
I found that by accident. I was afraid there were others like this that were also reversed so I just re-imported a new GEDCOM file. This one appears to be okay. Thanks -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Evert van Dijken Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:07 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal You could try to Swap Husband and Wife ... in Legacy (menu Edit) Evert have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell. I'm finding two Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without. She is not listed twice in the index for some strange reason. With the husband, she's listed as the husband and her husband is listed as the wife. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Help required
You and I (and probably many others) think alike on this. My data folders reside on a totally different physical hard drive other than C:. Ive been doing it this way for quite a while and Legacy is perfectly happy with those non-default locations. Personally, I dislike any program that invades the root of my C: drive, such as the default C:\Legacy but maybe that's just me being somewhat anal about keeping all related files and programs organized together. One additional caveat about using a different physical drive for the Legacy data folder is that it tends to isolate the data away from virus and Trojans which are usually programmed to wreak havoc with the C: drive. Whenever necessary, I am free to format C: without losing or disturbing any data files. Brian in CA From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:02 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required I'm thinking that people don't save their data files to the same location as the program--at least I don't. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal
Ron: I never merged a GEDCOM into an existing file. That would be a nightmare since things have gotten corrupt exporting from TMG. I always import a fresh GEDCOM and start from scratch. This time I had Legacy ignore all image links. I think it works better that way. I can relink them later. Early this morning I relinked and updated my grave photo descriptions. I'm using that TMG-to-Legacy file to create a report of media items since FTM will not cooperate and has limited reporting capabilities. I'm going to use that to copy and paste the information back into this new file when I get around to relinking images. I'm doing light cleanup now then I'm moving onto sources and locations. I wish I could import my locations from the old file to this one since I fixed all of them. If I could, I would have to go through and merge them. I do like all the features that Legacy has that most other programs don't. It's just going to take time to learn all of them and find things. Bill -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:42 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal Bill, Have you done as suggested by others and loaded your GEDCOM, as recommended, into a new Legacy file before merging it into your main Legacy DB? Whilst I have never needed to load a large an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy, I do know that those who have recommend this practice. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: Legacy Family Tree List Sent: 22 September 2009 18:59 Subject: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a new one that is just as messed up as the first. I just discovered that I have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell. I'm finding two Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without. She is not listed twice in the index for some strange reason. With the husband, she's listed as the husband and her husband is listed as the wife. When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a female. I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm ready to say the hell with it. Last night I updated all of the cemetery photo information and relinked everything. All grave images are linked, but the other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of duplicates. I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to converting between genealogy programs. It's getting so genealogy is not fun anymore and not worth all this work. It's more of a pain having to relink over 8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing images. It needs improvement. Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Help required
Will my genealogy do instead, Brian :-) Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: Oh, too late. I deleted everything. :-) Brian in CA From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help required There is a serious error in my last post. The last sentence should read: I recommend that you do *not* follow this advice unless you know exactly what you are doing. My apologies. Ron Ferguson _ snip I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know exactly what you are doing. Ron Ferguson _ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf
The point that I'm trying to make is that if you use special features to create PDF documents using Acrobat, and then make these documents available to cousins or anyone who only has Reader, then their ability to see and use these features in Reader is dependent on options that you made when creating. Adding annotations in Reader is one type of user right. It is not a 'permission for sharing', although it is often used in situations where documents are passed around for review. If, however, you add the annotations with Acrobat, I'm not sure whether the user right must be enabled for the person with only Reader to merely see them (not add any). Might be worth checking. Same thing for attached documents. There is a user right for this, and possibly the person with only Reader would not be able to see and open your attachments, without this right being enabled (and the document being 'interactive'). Going from memory here. It was only a year and a half ago when I worked with this stuff. :-) We went through a similar discussion on the LUG a while back. The software library used internally by Legacy to create PDF reports only creates them as printforms, not interactive forms. That's fine for most reports, but it is unfortunate for the 'blank' forms, since it prevents using Reader to fill out the blank forms before printing. Ward - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf I think you're speaking of the permissions for sharing with people who are only using the Reader. I forgot to mention that I'm using the latest Adobe Acrobat software. I don't remember what the capabilities were of previous versions, or the Reader since I don't use it. I believe version 9.xx has more capabilities that previous versions did not. I like creating forms in the new version. Version 8.xx and 9.xx allow you to attach non-Adobe formats to your PDFs such as spreadsheets, documents, etc. Bill -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Ward Walker Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf Bill, Adobe Reader is able to add annotations to a PDF if the appropriate user rights have been applied to the PDF. I suspect that the PDF must also be created as interactive (not printform). Applying user rights might be done by the software that creates the PDF, or even after the fact by software such as Adobe Acrobat. Previous posting to this list have suggested that certain third party PDF readers can ignore user rights and perform some tasks that Adobe Reader would restrict. Ward - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf ... I guess it's up to the user as to what their preference will be later on down the road when you have thousands of images/PDFs. One big advantage of using the PDF files is that you can add notes to the file that would otherwise have to be added in the genealogy program. I don't know if the reader lets you do this since I use the full version. Bill Boswell ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Help required
Your last paragraph is exactly why I don't put anything on the C Drive. I reformat at least once a year if not more when things start getting cluttered and causing problems. Windows XP updates tend to bring more problems than they solve. I also use an external drive only for archiving old stuff that is never online so unless I already have a virus in the system, they are protected aside from Norton Anti-Virus. I know some people probably never clear the old junk off their computers and wonder why they have problems after years of clutter. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required You and I (and probably many others) think alike on this. My data folders reside on a totally different physical hard drive other than C:. Ive been doing it this way for quite a while and Legacy is perfectly happy with those non-default locations. Personally, I dislike any program that invades the root of my C: drive, such as the default C:\Legacy but maybe that's just me being somewhat anal about keeping all related files and programs organized together. One additional caveat about using a different physical drive for the Legacy data folder is that it tends to isolate the data away from virus and Trojans which are usually programmed to wreak havoc with the C: drive. Whenever necessary, I am free to format C: without losing or disturbing any data files. Brian in CA From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:02 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required I'm thinking that people don't save their data files to the same location as the program--at least I don't. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal
Bill You may not need to relink all the photos. A gedcom from Legacy includes the full path for the photos (drive:\folders\filename) and FTM may do as well. If you have the photos in the same location they could/should load. Alternatively Legacy has a setting for where to look for photos, and you could set that (options/customise/locations) to look at the photo location when they were in FTM. If you no longer have or know the file path that FTM used for the photos you can find that by looking at the gedcom you imported (eg with a text editor such as Notepad) and recreate it (look for the tag FILE). If the photos are still where they were with FTM and the photo location did move into Legacy you might need to either control the gedcom import for that tag (FILE), or edit the gedcom before you import it. With 8000 photos it is worth getting the links in somehow!! However as the FILE tag has been std gedcom for quite a while I suspect the problem is not in this area. Cheers, Brett - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell To: Legacy Family Tree List Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:59 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a new one that is just as messed up as the first. I just discovered that I have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell. I'm finding two Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without. She is not listed twice in the index for some strange reason. With the husband, she's listed as the husband and her husband is listed as the wife. When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a female. I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm ready to say the hell with it. Last night I updated all of the cemetery photo information and relinked everything. All grave images are linked, but the other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of duplicates. I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to converting between genealogy programs. It's getting so genealogy is not fun anymore and not worth all this work. It's more of a pain having to relink over 8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing images. It needs improvement. Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please
Ward Walker wrote After the 'Comments about this master source' have been surreptitiously copied to the 'Comments' field, can you manually clear the Comments field, as a workaround? No! Deleting text from one place deletes it in the other. It's all a bit odd: I now see that the grey hint text in the Comments field is shown in black in the Master Source Comments field. If I click in the Comments field and enter text, it appears black and left aligned, but if I go into Master Source Comments, delete the hint text and type my own, that then appears in the Comments field in grey and centred. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please
On Sep 22, 2009 7:45 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Ward Walker wrote After the 'Comments about this master source' have been surreptitiously copied to the 'Comments... No! Deleting text from one place deletes it in the other. It's all a bit odd: I now see that the grey hint text in the Comments field is shown in black in the Master Source Comments field. If I click in the Comments field and enter text, it appears black and left aligned, but if I go into Master Source Comments, delete the hint text and type my own, that then appears in the Comments field in grey and centred. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp ...
Re: [LegacyUG] Minor problem using Access to convert a source's format
Thanks Brian! It is not holding me up, but I'm glad you followed up on it. Do you think there is an additional field that goes along with being a SW source that we should be changing in Access? A field that gets set correctly when the SW source is opened for Edit? --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:19:55 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Minor problem using Access to convert a source's format We had a problem report on the issue of combining sources in our system. It was marked as resolved in our latest update so I tested it today. I have now passed it back to the programmers for more work. You should not have to edit the source and cancel before the combine button works. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: Hi Paula, That is just a simple quirk of Legacy since Source Writer Sources were introduced. When you Highlite ANY Source Writer Source and then click the Combine Highlighted Source with another in List button all the radio buttons on top right should go greyed out except for the Cancel button. Just click Edit Cancel Combine Highlighted Source with another in List button. Now it will go to grey and you can combine the 2 sources. Thank Ron Ferguson for that solution. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please
I have seen inconsistencies in those grey hint text lines... different issues on different templates. E.g., when you start typing the hint doesn't go away and what you type is grey, when you start typing the hint goes away but what you type is centered and grey, etc. Do you think I should be reporting those as bugs? If those details have been overlooked, I start wondering what else may have been missed? (like Jenny's bug) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:56:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please Ward Walker wrote After the 'Comments about this master source' have been surreptitiously copied to the 'Comments' field, can you manually clear the Comments field, as a workaround? No! Deleting text from one place deletes it in the other. It's all a bit odd: I now see that the grey hint text in the Comments field is shown in black in the Master Source Comments field. If I click in the Comments field and enter text, it appears black and left aligned, but if I go into Master Source Comments, delete the hint text and type my own, that then appears in the Comments field in grey and centred. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages
Just to give you an idea, I live in Korea so I ran two tests. The first to a local server in Seoul showed Down: 13.40 Up: 7.85 I then switched to a server in San Francisco, half-way around the world and got these results Down: 7.61 Up: 2.01 My worst case is twice your speeds. Korea, however, is known to have some of the fastest Internet connectivity in the world. So, down towards the bottom of the page where you did your test is a button (actually more of a text block) that says How do your results stack up? Click on that and it will show you how you compare to others in your area. Jim On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.netwrote: I did the speed test and these are the results... download 3.89 upload 1.00 so now tell me what that means. michele - Original Message - From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages This is getting slightly off topic but since it does directly affect Legacy users that are trying to upload web pages, here is one more shot at things to remember: 1. Your upload speed is not affected by choice of operating systems; Vista or XP have no effect on your upload speed. 2. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your amount of RAM (unless you are so underspec but then you'd notice problems with just running any programs. For the average system, adding additional RAM will not increase your upload speed. 3. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your brand of computer. 4. Your upload speed is not defined by merely saying cable modem, DSL, satellite, etc, all of which are loosely defined as broadband but bandwidth can and does vary widely. Some cable modem connections are only 768K while others are up to 18Mbps (that's over 23 times faster). 5. A dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that your upload speed is almost always severely reduced over what your download speed is supposed to be. 6. Another dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that your up/download speed is not guaranteed but rather sold to you as up to X Mbps. Your results may varyand they will. 7. The speed and efficiency of the server to which you are uploading will affect the time it takes you to transfer files. Normally, it isn't much of a factor unless you are using AOL, etc. If you don't know for sure, call and ask your ISP exactly what speed package you are paying for: you need two numbers as an answer. For example, a typical answer might be 3 Meg down and 256K up. Note that in this example it's the 256K upload speed which determines how long it takes for you to upload web pages. Finally (and really getting off topic now), if you are still having long delays uploading web pages, go here to test your ACTUAL speed as opposed to what you are paying for: http://www.speedtest.net/ Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:cranberryf...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages I have a Dell laptop with 2GB RAM. I am running Vista. I am not uploading any pictures at all. I use a cable modem for my internet connection. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2387 - Release Date: 09/21/09 17:55:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp