Re: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread Evert van Dijken
Try this:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/help4Over2.asp

But I think there is a typo in 1. Before you install 6.0.
I suppose this should read as Before you install 7.0 again, because
the user had allready installed 7.0 over 6.0.
Evert

2009/9/22 Catherine Birch c.bi...@clear.net.nz:
 I have been told that you are a help agency!

 Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe.  I already had Legacy 6.

 I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then.  I
 recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6.

 I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the
 uninstall feature.  Legacy 6 is still there.

 I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does
 not show there, only y7.

 If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will be
 grateful.

 Thank you
 Catherine Birch

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Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order

2009-09-22 Thread Jenny M Benson

Robert Arens wrote
I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first 
child one year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 
years younger than the husband. In some large family groups I've been 
off by as much as 40 years.


Which is why I don't like estimating unless I have a fairly good idea to 
within a year or two of when the event happened.  Leaving a birthdate 
blank means I don't know when this person was born, putting in abt 
1820 means something like the 1851 Census showed an age of 30 so this 
person was probably born between April 1820 and March 1821.


If I thought someone was born in 1820 and they were really born in 1780 
it could seriously skew my research!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread Jenny M Benson

Catherine Birch wrote

Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe.  I already had Legacy 6.
 
I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since 
then.  I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only 
come in 6.


You problems uninstalling Legacy 6 have been responded to by another 
LUGger, but what do you mean by it will only come in 6?


The whole point of a gedcom file is that it is not program- or 
version-specific.  You can create a gedcom in Legacy 6 or Legacy 7 and 
then import it into either or into a completely different program.


FWIW, I worked for a long time with both Legacy 6 and Legacy 7 installed 
on this computer and it caused me no problems at all.  My main family 
file was in version 7, but I often used 6 to look at how things used to 
be done, to check an old file or to find a solution to a problem 
another LUGger was having with Legacy 6.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order

2009-09-22 Thread Robert Arens
When you have a file like mine with over 200 people with the same name
(Nicholas Arens), born between 1500 and 2009, I need a method to roughly
sort them into approximate decades and centuries..

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:

 Robert Arens wrote

 I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first child
 one year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 years
 younger than the husband. In some large family groups I've been off by as
 much as 40 years.


 Which is why I don't like estimating unless I have a fairly good idea to
 within a year or two of when the event happened.  Leaving a birthdate blank
 means I don't know when this person was born, putting in abt 1820 means
 something like the 1851 Census showed an age of 30 so this person was
 probably born between April 1820 and March 1821.

 If I thought someone was born in 1820 and they were really born in 1780 it
 could seriously skew my research!
 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

2009-09-22 Thread Michele Lewis

I did the speed test and these are the results...

download 3.89
upload 1.00

so now tell me what that means.

michele


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From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages


This is getting slightly off topic but since it does directly affect 
Legacy

users that are trying to upload web pages, here is one more shot at things
to remember:

1. Your upload speed is not affected by choice of operating systems; Vista
or XP have no effect on your upload speed.
2. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your amount of RAM
(unless you are so underspec but then you'd notice problems with just
running any programs. For the average system, adding additional RAM will 
not

increase your upload speed.
3. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your brand of
computer.
4. Your upload speed is not defined by merely saying cable modem, DSL,
satellite, etc, all of which are loosely defined as broadband but
bandwidth can and does vary widely. Some cable modem connections are only
768K while others are up to 18Mbps (that's over 23 times faster).
5. A dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that your
upload speed is almost always severely reduced over what your download 
speed

is supposed to be.
6. Another dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that
your up/download speed is not guaranteed but rather sold to you as up 
to

X Mbps. Your results may varyand they will.
7. The speed and efficiency of the server to which you are uploading will
affect the time it takes you to transfer files. Normally, it isn't much of 
a

factor unless you are using AOL, etc.

If you don't know for sure, call and ask your ISP exactly what speed 
package

you are paying for: you need two numbers as an answer. For example, a
typical answer might be 3 Meg down and 256K up. Note that in this 
example

it's the 256K upload speed which determines how long it takes for you to
upload web pages.

Finally (and really getting off topic now), if you are still having long
delays uploading web pages, go here to test your ACTUAL speed as opposed 
to

what you are paying for:
http://www.speedtest.net/

Brian in CA


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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

I have a Dell laptop with 2GB RAM.  I am running Vista.  I am not 
uploading

any pictures at all.  I use a cable modem for my internet connection.

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RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
Suzanne:

I'm a huge creator of PDF files and have been for a number of years.  I used
to save and scan all of my sources to PDF files because I dislike having
tons of paper files.  Digital is better.  However, over the years when
incorporating them into genealogy software they can become quite heavy when
you have to use the external PDF Reader software to view them compared to
reading the images within the program.

PDFs are good for storing all kinds of data and in some programs like the
full version of Adobe Acrobat, you can save the PDFs as image files.  I did
that for a lot of census records that I couldn't find images for as well as
my own scans.  I recently converted most of my PDFs over to images because
they are smaller in size, but I still preserve the quality and resolution in
case I need to zoom into to read something.

My PDF source collection takes up about five DVDs because many of the files
are so large.  In contrast the images take up less than one DVD.  I still
use PDFs for multiple-paged documents because it just makes better sense
than having a bunch of images from the same source.

When I was using FTM 2009, I hated when the thumbnail showed the Adobe logo
in place of an image so I converted many of them over.

I guess it's up to the user as to what their preference will be later on
down the road when you have thousands of images/PDFs.  One big advantage of
using the PDF files is that you can add notes to the file that would
otherwise have to be added in the genealogy program.  I don't know if the
reader lets you do this since I use the full version.

Bill Boswell
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
Of Suzanne Scheraga
  Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:58 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf


I am confused about the advantages (or disadvantages) of attaching
documents instead of image files.

For example, I have some naturalization records saved as jpgs, and
others as pdfs. I like that the documents come up in the picture gallery
because I think it is almost as exciting to see a census record from 1910 as
it is to see a picture from that year. But multi-page documents must have
multiple images instead of one single file which makes it awkward. And I
understand that the documents cannot be included in a report.

Does anyone have suggestions as to the best way to solve this
dilemma?

Thanks from a newbie,
Suzanne



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RE: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
I would uninstall both, then reinstall Legacy 7.  If you have any utilities
that will clean up your registry you might want to consider running them.
I do this after uninstalling anything as well as deleting any configuration
files that most uninstall utilities leave behind.  Such as under Documents
and Settings.  I also remove the folder for the program because it can be
left behind as well.
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
Of Catherine Birch
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Help required


  I have been told that you are a help agency!

  Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe.  I already had Legacy 6.

  I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then.  I
recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6.

  I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the
uninstall feature.  Legacy 6 is still there.

  I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does
not show there, only y7.

  If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will be
grateful.

  Thank you
  Catherine Birch
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Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order (dates or no dates?)

2009-09-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Seems like someone recently posted here (I have a stickie on this!) that they 
use abt 1820 when the year has been indicated by a source; e.g., census 
listing.  But they use est 1820 when they're using some other algorithm to 
come up with the year; e.g., Robert's calculations.  Anything with abt can 
help research; anything with est is just a help to identify people in the 
list.
--Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough 
Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd 
Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald 
Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams 





From: Robert Arens bob.aren...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:02:42 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order

When you have a file like mine with over 200 people with the same name 
(Nicholas Arens), born between 1500 and 2009, I need a method to roughly sort 
them into approximate decades and centuries..


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

Robert Arens wrote 


I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first child one 
year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 years younger than 
the husband. In some large family groups I've been off by as much as 40 years.

Which is why I don't like estimating unless I have a fairly good idea to 
within a year or two of when the event happened.  Leaving a birthdate blank 
means I don't know when this person was born, putting in abt 1820 means 
something like the 1851 Census showed an age of 30 so this person was 
probably born between April 1820 and March 1821.

If I thought someone was born in 1820 and they were really born in 1780 it 
could seriously skew my research!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Does anyone know how to increase max number of children from 60 to 99

2009-09-22 Thread SgtBob
Carl - Could you expand a bit on your system of tagging the individuals and/or 
the groups.  I have a lot of unrelated folks in my system, and this might help 
me better manage the files.

Bob 

 Carl Cox ct...@getgoin.net wrote: 
 I like the two suggestions I received. Thank you. I will start using the 
 suggested approach instead of my current approach. I agree, it's misleading 
 to have unconnected people linked as siblings.
 
 A couple of thoughts. I have a tag to designate unlinked individuals and 
 groups. Also, using the tree finder, it would be easy to find all the 
 unlinked trees, and they can also be tagged from there.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Do *not* delete the program folder unless you have saved your Data folder to 
another location. Not only does it contain your working file but also your 
backup.

In fact if you delete the program folder you will also lose *all* your 
settings. I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know 
exactly what you are doing.

Ron Ferguson
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  - Original Message - 
  From: William H. Boswell 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: 22 September 2009 15:53
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required


  I would uninstall both, then reinstall Legacy 7.  If you have any utilities 
that will clean up your registry you might want to consider running them.  I 
do this after uninstalling anything as well as deleting any configuration files 
that most uninstall utilities leave behind.  Such as under Documents and 
Settings.  I also remove the folder for the program because it can be left 
behind as well.
-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf 
Of Catherine Birch
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help required


I have been told that you are a help agency!

Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe.  I already had Legacy 6.

I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then.  I 
recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6.

I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the 
uninstall feature.  Legacy 6 is still there.

I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does 
not show there, only y7.

If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will be 
grateful.

Thank you
Catherine Birch
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RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

2009-09-22 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Offhand, I would say you have excellent connectivity to the Internet.
Uploading your Legacy web pages should not be much of a problem. Your
specific numbers indicate a 3.89 megabit download speed which is very good.
You are probably paying for a 4 megabit connection but if you are actually
paying for a 6 megabit connection, then it is time to complain to your ISP
because they are not living up to the bargain. Your upload speed is 1
megabit which is also very good. You are probably paying for a 1 megabit
connection which means you are getting 100% of what you are supposed to be
getting. That is almost unheard of so I suspect that you are probably
supposed to be getting a 1.5 megabit connection which means you are still
getting a good portion of what you are paying for. These speeds are always
sold as a package, i.e., 4/1.5 or 6/2. Only your ISP can tell you what you
are paying for.

The bottom line is that with an upload speed of 1 megabit, you should have
no problem uploading Legacy web pages. With a 1 megabit upload, it took
longer for me to type this message than you could upload 100 pages.

By the way, I should add that for anybody thinking it is taking too long to
upload any web pages, under no circumstances could the problem ever be
anything to do with Legacy.

I think any further discussions about network connectivity should probably
be taken to a different forum or else email me privately and I'll be glad to
help.


Brian in CA



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From: Michele Lewis [mailto:cranberryf...@charter.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

I did the speed test and these are the results...

download 3.89
upload 1.00

so now tell me what that means.

michele


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

snip

 Finally (and really getting off topic now), if you are still having long
 delays uploading web pages, go here to test your ACTUAL speed as opposed 
 to
 what you are paying for:
 http://www.speedtest.net/

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[LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please

2009-09-22 Thread Jenny M Benson

Jenny M Benson wrote
I have a Comment on a Master Source which is *not* checked for 
inclusion in Reports, but it is being included, and it is included on 
every Citation using that Master Source.


Further information about this.  I now see why this is occurring.  On 
some SW templates (I have now seen it on ArtifactsPrivately held and 
Family Group SheetPrivately held) there is a field named Comments on 
the Source Info screen, the main screen for inputting Master Source 
data.  Any text which is entered into the usual Comments about this 
master source field are automatically copied into the Comments field. 
Obviously the Comments field is not picking up on the contents of the 
checkbox for Include on Reports which appears under the Comments 
about this master source.  (Nor the First time/Each time radio 
buttons.)


I wonder if a Legacy staffer could comment on whether or not this is 
intentional.  I hope it is *not* because I usually use the Comments 
about this master source for information which I do not wish to have 
appear on Reports and where the entry is quite long I certainly don't 
want it appearing every time the Master Source is cited.  I can conceive 
of occasions when one would want to add a Comment to be part of the 
printed Master Source *and* Comments about this master source which 
were not for publication.


For the moment I am working around the problem by including my long 
not-for-publishing comments in the Copy of the text from this master 
source field over which I have some control!



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Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order

2009-09-22 Thread Eliz Hanebury
I have taken to putting in an estimated birth date for partners for
the people I am connected to as Robert says just to try and make sense
of things. I use @185ish, and ish is really generous G It alerts me
that it isn't a census age, and really tells me I have to get to work
on that person G



Eliz

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 Robert Arens wrote

 I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first child
 one year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 years
 younger than the husband. In some large family groups I've been off by as
 much as 40 years.

 Which is why I don't like estimating unless I have a fairly good idea to
 within a year or two of when the event happened.  Leaving a birthdate blank
 means I don't know when this person was born, putting in abt 1820 means
 something like the 1851 Census showed an age of 30 so this person was
 probably born between April 1820 and March 1821.

 If I thought someone was born in 1820 and they were really born in 1780 it
 could seriously skew my research!
 --
 Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
There is a serious error in my last post. The last sentence should read: I 
recommend that you do *not* follow this advice unless you know exactly what you 
are doing.

My apologies.

Ron Ferguson
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  Sent: 22 September 2009 17:46
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help required


  Do *not* delete the program folder unless you have saved your Data folder to 
another location. Not only does it contain your working file but also your 
backup.

  In fact if you delete the program folder you will also lose *all* your 
settings. I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know 
exactly what you are doing.

  Ron Ferguson
  _

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- Original Message - 
From: William H. Boswell 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: 22 September 2009 15:53
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required


I would uninstall both, then reinstall Legacy 7.  If you have any utilities 
that will clean up your registry you might want to consider running them.  I 
do this after uninstalling anything as well as deleting any configuration files 
that most uninstall utilities leave behind.  Such as under Documents and 
Settings.  I also remove the folder for the program because it can be left 
behind as well.
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on 
Behalf Of Catherine Birch
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Help required


  I have been told that you are a help agency!

  Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe.  I already had Legacy 6.

  I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since then.  
I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in 6.

  I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the 
uninstall feature.  Legacy 6 is still there.

  I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6 does 
not show there, only y7.

  If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I will 
be grateful.

  Thank you
  Catherine Birch
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RE: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
I'm thinking that people don't save their data files to the same location as
the program--at least I don't.

I should have mentioned this would be for the advanced computer users
especially anything to do with the registry and after an uninstall not
before.
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
Of Ron Ferguson
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:47 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help required


  Do *not* delete the program folder unless you have saved your Data folder
to another location. Not only does it contain your working file but also
your backup.

  In fact if you delete the program folder you will also lose *all* your
settings. I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know
exactly what you are doing.

  Ron Ferguson
  _

  New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website
  http://www.fergys.co.uk
  Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
  For The Fergusons of N.W. England
  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
  

- Original Message -
From: William H. Boswell
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 22 September 2009 15:53
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required


I would uninstall both, then reinstall Legacy 7.  If you have any
utilities that will clean up your registry you might want to consider
running them.  I do this after uninstalling anything as well as deleting any
configuration files that most uninstall utilities leave behind.  Such as
under Documents and Settings.  I also remove the folder for the program
because it can be left behind as well.
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Catherine Birch
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Help required


  I have been told that you are a help agency!

  Last year I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe.  I already had Legacy 6.

  I thought that 7 would have over ridden 6 but have had both since
then.  I recently tried to make a gedcom file in 7 but it will only come in
6.

  I have just uninstalled 6 but that has only removed the icon and the
uninstall feature.  Legacy 6 is still there.

  I went in to Add/remove programmes on the Control Panel but Legacy 6
does not show there, only y7.

  If you can help me get rid of 6 so I can make a gedcom file on 7 I
will be grateful.

  Thank you
  Catherine Birch
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[LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a
new one that is just as messed up as the first.  I just discovered that I
have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell.  I'm finding two
Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without.  She is not listed twice
in the index for some strange reason.  With the husband, she's listed as the
husband and her husband is listed as the wife.

When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a
female.  I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm
ready to say the hell with it.  Last night I updated all of the cemetery
photo information and relinked everything.  All grave images are linked, but
the other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of
duplicates.

I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to
converting between genealogy programs.  It's getting so genealogy is not fun
anymore and not worth all this work.  It's more of a pain having to relink
over 8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing
images.  It needs improvement.

Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009.

Bill Boswell




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RE: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order (dates or no dates?)

2009-09-22 Thread Kirsten Bowman

For what it's worth, I use Cal 1820 when a dob is calculated from a record
such as a census listing or age at death.  Legacy accepts this as well as
Cal 20 Nov 1820 and even a date range such as Cal 1820-1826 (for when
sources differ).  I wasn't comfortable with the Cal abbreviation in the
beginning because in my mind it indicates calendar while Calc would
indicate calculated, but I'm getting used to it now, and I see that others
use it too.

Kirsten


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Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:51 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order (dates or no dates?)


Seems like someone recently posted here (I have a stickie on this!) that
they use abt 1820 when the year has been indicated by a source; e.g.,
census listing.  But they use est 1820 when they're using some other
algorithm to come up with the year; e.g., Robert's calculations.  Anything
with abt can help research; anything with est is just a help to identify
people in the list.

--Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough
Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd
Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell
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Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

2009-09-22 Thread Michele Lewis
My web pages = about 35.73.  At an upload speed of 1.00, should it still be 
taking 2 hours?


michele

- Original Message - 
From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages



Offhand, I would say you have excellent connectivity to the Internet.
Uploading your Legacy web pages should not be much of a problem. Your
specific numbers indicate a 3.89 megabit download speed which is very 
good.

You are probably paying for a 4 megabit connection but if you are actually
paying for a 6 megabit connection, then it is time to complain to your ISP
because they are not living up to the bargain. Your upload speed is 1
megabit which is also very good. You are probably paying for a 1 megabit
connection which means you are getting 100% of what you are supposed to be
getting. That is almost unheard of so I suspect that you are probably
supposed to be getting a 1.5 megabit connection which means you are still
getting a good portion of what you are paying for. These speeds are always
sold as a package, i.e., 4/1.5 or 6/2. Only your ISP can tell you what you
are paying for.

The bottom line is that with an upload speed of 1 megabit, you should have
no problem uploading Legacy web pages. With a 1 megabit upload, it took
longer for me to type this message than you could upload 100 pages.

By the way, I should add that for anybody thinking it is taking too long 
to

upload any web pages, under no circumstances could the problem ever be
anything to do with Legacy.

I think any further discussions about network connectivity should probably
be taken to a different forum or else email me privately and I'll be glad 
to

help.





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Re: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf

2009-09-22 Thread Ward Walker

Bill,

Adobe Reader is able to add annotations to a PDF if the appropriate user 
rights have been applied to the PDF. I suspect that the PDF must also be 
created as interactive (not printform). Applying user rights might be done 
by the software that creates the PDF, or even after the fact by software 
such as Adobe Acrobat.


Previous posting to this list have suggested that certain third party PDF 
readers can ignore user rights and perform some tasks that Adobe Reader 
would restrict.


  Ward

- Original Message - 
From: William H. Boswell

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf


...
I guess it's up to the user as to what their preference will be later on 
down the road when you have thousands of images/PDFs.  One big advantage of 
using the PDF files is that you can add notes to the file that would 
otherwise have to be added in the genealogy program.  I don't know if the 
reader lets you do this since I use the full version.


Bill Boswell
... 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please

2009-09-22 Thread Ward Walker

Jenny,

I think you should just go ahead and report that as a bug. If it was ever 
intentional, then it was a design bug (as opposed to a programming bug).


After the 'Comments about this master source' have been surreptitiously 
copied to the 'Comments' field, can you manually clear the Comments field, 
as a workaround?


  Ward

- Original Message - 
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, 
please




Jenny M Benson wrote
I have a Comment on a Master Source which is *not* checked for inclusion 
in Reports, but it is being included, and it is included on every Citation 
using that Master Source.


Further information about this.  I now see why this is occurring.  On some 
SW templates (I have now seen it on ArtifactsPrivately held and Family 
Group SheetPrivately held) there is a field named Comments on the 
Source Info screen, the main screen for inputting Master Source data. 
Any text which is entered into the usual Comments about this master 
source field are automatically copied into the Comments field. 
Obviously the Comments field is not picking up on the contents of the 
checkbox for Include on Reports which appears under the Comments about 
this master source.  (Nor the First time/Each time radio buttons.)


I wonder if a Legacy staffer could comment on whether or not this is 
intentional.  I hope it is *not* because I usually use the Comments about 
this master source for information which I do not wish to have appear on 
Reports and where the entry is quite long I certainly don't want it 
appearing every time the Master Source is cited.  I can conceive of 
occasions when one would want to add a Comment to be part of the printed 
Master Source *and* Comments about this master source which were not for 
publication.


For the moment I am working around the problem by including my long 
not-for-publishing comments in the Copy of the text from this master 
source field over which I have some control!



--
Jenny M Benson





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[LegacyUG] FW: More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
Forget my previous message.  I exported from FTM to a GEDCOM and had Legacy
ignore the image links.  I'm going to relink all the images later after I do
some cleanup.  The problem isn't there with this new import.  I just have to
stay away from The Master Genealogist importing of FTM2009 files then
exporting to GEDCOM.  It's messing things up royally.

I really need to read the PDF User's Manual I purchased a few weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:59 PM
To: Legacy Family Tree List
Subject: More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal


After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a
new one that is just as messed up as the first.  I just discovered that I
have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell.  I'm finding two
Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without.  She is not listed twice
in the index for some strange reason.  With the husband, she's listed as the
husband and her husband is listed as the wife.

When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a
female.  I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm
ready to say the hell with it.  Last night I updated all of the cemetery
photo information and relinked everything.  All grave images are linked, but
the other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of
duplicates.

I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to
converting between genealogy programs.  It's getting so genealogy is not fun
anymore and not worth all this work.  It's more of a pain having to relink
over 8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing
images.  It needs improvement.

Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009.

Bill Boswell




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Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal

2009-09-22 Thread Evert van Dijken
You could try to Swap Husband and Wife ... in Legacy (menu Edit)

Evert

 have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell.  I'm finding two
 Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without.  She is not listed twice
 in the index for some strange reason.  With the husband, she's listed as the
 husband and her husband is listed as the wife.



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Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal

2009-09-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bill,

Have you done as suggested by others and loaded your GEDCOM, as recommended, 
into a new Legacy file before merging it into your main Legacy DB?

Whilst I have never needed to load a large an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy, 
I do know that those who have recommend this practice.

Ron Ferguson
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http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/


  - Original Message - 
  From: William H. Boswell 
  To: Legacy Family Tree List 
  Sent: 22 September 2009 18:59
  Subject: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal


  After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a new 
one that is just as messed up as the first.  I just discovered that I have a 
person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell.  I'm finding two Marie 
Kelly's: one with a husband and one without.  She is not listed twice in the 
index for some strange reason.  With the husband, she's listed as the husband 
and her husband is listed as the wife.

  When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a 
female.  I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm ready 
to say the hell with it.  Last night I updated all of the cemetery photo 
information and relinked everything.  All grave images are linked, but the 
other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of 
duplicates.

  I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to 
converting between genealogy programs.  It's getting so genealogy is not fun 
anymore and not worth all this work.  It's more of a pain having to relink over 
8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing images.  It 
needs improvement.

  Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009.

  Bill Boswell




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RE: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Oh, too late. I deleted everything.

:-)


Brian in CA



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help required

There is a serious error in my last post. The last sentence should read: I
recommend that you do *not* follow this advice unless you know exactly what
you are doing.
 
My apologies.
 
Ron Ferguson
_
 

snip

I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know exactly what
you are doing.
 
Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
I think you're speaking of the permissions for sharing with people who are
only using the Reader.

I forgot to mention that I'm using the latest Adobe Acrobat software.  I
don't remember what the capabilities were of previous versions, or the
Reader since I don't use it.  I believe version 9.xx has more capabilities
that previous versions did not.

I like creating forms in the new version.  Version 8.xx and 9.xx allow you
to attach non-Adobe formats to your PDFs such as spreadsheets, documents,
etc.

Bill

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Ward Walker
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf


Bill,

Adobe Reader is able to add annotations to a PDF if the appropriate user
rights have been applied to the PDF. I suspect that the PDF must also be
created as interactive (not printform). Applying user rights might be done
by the software that creates the PDF, or even after the fact by software
such as Adobe Acrobat.

Previous posting to this list have suggested that certain third party PDF
readers can ignore user rights and perform some tasks that Adobe Reader
would restrict.

   Ward

- Original Message -
From: William H. Boswell
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf


...
I guess it's up to the user as to what their preference will be later on
down the road when you have thousands of images/PDFs.  One big advantage of
using the PDF files is that you can add notes to the file that would
otherwise have to be added in the genealogy program.  I don't know if the
reader lets you do this since I use the full version.

Bill Boswell
...




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Re: [LegacyUG] Minor problem using Access to convert a source's format

2009-09-22 Thread Brian/Support
We had a problem report on the issue of combining sources in our system. 
It was marked as resolved in our latest update so I tested it today. I 
have now passed it back to the programmers for more work. You should not 
have to edit the source and cancel before the combine button works.


Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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Thanks.

Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

Hi Paula,

That is just a simple quirk of Legacy since Source Writer Sources were
introduced.

When you Highlite ANY Source Writer Source and then click the Combine
Highlighted Source with another in List button all the radio buttons
on top right should go greyed out except for the Cancel button. Just
click Edit  Cancel Combine Highlighted Source with another in
List button. Now it will go to grey and you can combine the 2
sources.

Thank Ron Ferguson for that solution.





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RE: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
I found that by accident.  I was afraid there were others like this that
were also reversed so I just re-imported a new GEDCOM file.  This one
appears to be okay.

Thanks

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Behalf Of Evert van Dijken
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal


You could try to Swap Husband and Wife ... in Legacy (menu Edit)

Evert

 have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell.  I'm finding
two
 Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without.  She is not listed
twice
 in the index for some strange reason.  With the husband, she's listed as
the
 husband and her husband is listed as the wife.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
You and I (and probably many others) think alike on this. My data folders
reside on a totally different physical hard drive other than C:. I’ve been
doing it this way for quite a while and Legacy is perfectly happy with those
non-default locations. Personally, I dislike any program that invades the
root of my C: drive, such as the default C:\Legacy but maybe that's just me
being somewhat anal about keeping all related files and programs organized
together.

One additional caveat about using a different physical drive for the Legacy
data folder is that it tends to isolate the data away from virus and Trojans
which are usually programmed to wreak havoc with the C: drive. Whenever
necessary, I am free to format C: without losing or disturbing any data
files.


Brian in CA



From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:02 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required

I'm thinking that people don't save their data files to the same location
as the program--at least I don't.
 




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RE: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
Ron:

I never merged a GEDCOM into an existing file.  That would be a nightmare
since things have gotten corrupt exporting from TMG.  I always import a
fresh GEDCOM and start from scratch.  This time I had Legacy ignore all
image links.  I think it works better that way.  I can relink them later.

Early this morning I relinked and updated my grave photo descriptions.  I'm
using that TMG-to-Legacy file to create a report of media items since FTM
will not cooperate and has limited reporting capabilities.  I'm going to use
that to copy and paste the information back into this new file when I get
around to relinking images.

I'm doing light cleanup now then I'm moving onto sources and locations.  I
wish I could import my locations from the old file to this one since I fixed
all of them.  If I could, I would have to go through and merge them.

I do like all the features that Legacy has that most other programs don't.
It's just going to take time to learn all of them and find things.

Bill
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
Of Ron Ferguson
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:42 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal


  Bill,

  Have you done as suggested by others and loaded your GEDCOM, as
recommended, into a new Legacy file before merging it into your main Legacy
DB?

  Whilst I have never needed to load a large an FTM generated GEDCOM into
Legacy, I do know that those who have recommend this practice.

  Ron Ferguson
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- Original Message -
From: William H. Boswell
To: Legacy Family Tree List
Sent: 22 September 2009 18:59
Subject: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal


After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did
a new one that is just as messed up as the first.  I just discovered that I
have a person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell.  I'm finding two
Marie Kelly's: one with a husband and one without.  She is not listed twice
in the index for some strange reason.  With the husband, she's listed as the
husband and her husband is listed as the wife.

When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to
a female.  I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm
ready to say the hell with it.  Last night I updated all of the cemetery
photo information and relinked everything.  All grave images are linked, but
the other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of
duplicates.

I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution
to converting between genealogy programs.  It's getting so genealogy is not
fun anymore and not worth all this work.  It's more of a pain having to
relink over 8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing
images.  It needs improvement.

Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009.

Bill Boswell
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread Ron Ferguson

Will my genealogy do instead, Brian :-)

Ron Ferguson
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Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/



Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:

Oh, too late. I deleted everything.

:-)


Brian in CA



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help required

There is a serious error in my last post. The last sentence should
read: I 
recommend that you do *not* follow this advice unless you know
exactly what 
you are doing.


My apologies.

Ron Ferguson
_


snip

I recommend that you do now follow this advice unless you know
exactly what 
you are doing.


Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf

2009-09-22 Thread Ward Walker
The point that I'm trying to make is that if you use special features to 
create PDF documents using Acrobat, and then make these documents available 
to cousins or anyone who only has Reader, then their ability to see and use 
these features in Reader is dependent on options that you made when 
creating. Adding annotations in Reader is one type of user right. It is not 
a 'permission for sharing', although it is often used in situations where 
documents are passed around for review. If, however, you add the annotations 
with Acrobat, I'm not sure whether the user right must be enabled for the 
person with only Reader to merely see them (not add any). Might be worth 
checking. Same thing for attached documents. There is a user right for this, 
and possibly the person with only Reader would not be able to see and open 
your attachments, without this right being enabled (and the document being 
'interactive'). Going from memory here. It was only a year and a half ago 
when I worked with this stuff.  :-)


We went through a similar discussion on the LUG a while back. The software 
library used internally by Legacy to create PDF reports only creates them as 
printforms, not interactive forms. That's fine for most reports, but it is 
unfortunate for the 'blank' forms, since it prevents using Reader to fill 
out the blank forms before printing.


  Ward

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From: William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf



I think you're speaking of the permissions for sharing with people who are
only using the Reader.

I forgot to mention that I'm using the latest Adobe Acrobat software.  I
don't remember what the capabilities were of previous versions, or the
Reader since I don't use it.  I believe version 9.xx has more capabilities
that previous versions did not.

I like creating forms in the new version.  Version 8.xx and 9.xx allow you
to attach non-Adobe formats to your PDFs such as spreadsheets, documents,
etc.

Bill

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Ward Walker
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf


Bill,

Adobe Reader is able to add annotations to a PDF if the appropriate user
rights have been applied to the PDF. I suspect that the PDF must also be
created as interactive (not printform). Applying user rights might be done
by the software that creates the PDF, or even after the fact by software
such as Adobe Acrobat.

Previous posting to this list have suggested that certain third party PDF
readers can ignore user rights and perform some tasks that Adobe Reader
would restrict.

  Ward

- Original Message -
From: William H. Boswell
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To pdf or not to pdf


...
I guess it's up to the user as to what their preference will be later on
down the road when you have thousands of images/PDFs.  One big advantage 
of

using the PDF files is that you can add notes to the file that would
otherwise have to be added in the genealogy program.  I don't know if the
reader lets you do this since I use the full version.

Bill Boswell
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RE: [LegacyUG] Help required

2009-09-22 Thread William H. Boswell
Your last paragraph is exactly why I don't put anything on the C Drive.  I
reformat at least once a year if not more when things start getting
cluttered and causing problems.  Windows XP updates tend to bring more
problems than they solve.  I also use an external drive only for archiving
old stuff that is never online so unless I already have a virus in the
system, they are protected aside from Norton Anti-Virus.

I know some people probably never clear the old junk off their computers and
wonder why they have problems after years of clutter.

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required


You and I (and probably many others) think alike on this. My data folders
reside on a totally different physical hard drive other than C:. I’ve been
doing it this way for quite a while and Legacy is perfectly happy with those
non-default locations. Personally, I dislike any program that invades the
root of my C: drive, such as the default C:\Legacy but maybe that's just me
being somewhat anal about keeping all related files and programs organized
together.

One additional caveat about using a different physical drive for the Legacy
data folder is that it tends to isolate the data away from virus and Trojans
which are usually programmed to wreak havoc with the C: drive. Whenever
necessary, I am free to format C: without losing or disturbing any data
files.


Brian in CA



From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:02 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help required

I'm thinking that people don't save their data files to the same location
as the program--at least I don't.
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal

2009-09-22 Thread BMcL Robinson
Bill

You may not need to relink all the photos. A gedcom from Legacy includes the 
full path for the photos (drive:\folders\filename) and FTM may do as well. If 
you have the photos in the same location they could/should load. Alternatively 
Legacy has a setting for where to look for photos, and you could set that 
(options/customise/locations) to look at the photo location when they were in 
FTM. If you no longer have or know the file path that FTM used for the photos 
you can find that by looking at the gedcom you imported (eg with a text editor 
such as Notepad) and recreate it (look for the tag FILE). 

If the photos are still where they were with FTM and the photo location did 
move into Legacy you might need to either control the gedcom import for that 
tag (FILE), or edit the gedcom before you import it. With 8000 photos it is 
worth getting the links in somehow!! However as the FILE tag has been std 
gedcom for quite a while I suspect the problem is not in this area.

Cheers, Brett

  - Original Message - 
  From: William H. Boswell 
  To: Legacy Family Tree List 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:59 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] More Major Problems With Legacy--Role Reversal


  After practically giving up on my last GEDCOM import into Legacy, I did a new 
one that is just as messed up as the first.  I just discovered that I have a 
person Marie G. Kelly who married Samuel E. Boswell.  I'm finding two Marie 
Kelly's: one with a husband and one without.  She is not listed twice in the 
index for some strange reason.  With the husband, she's listed as the husband 
and her husband is listed as the wife.

  When I tried to attach her husband, it said I couldn't attach a wife to a 
female.  I'm am so frustrated with this transition from FTM 2009 that I'm ready 
to say the hell with it.  Last night I updated all of the cemetery photo 
information and relinked everything.  All grave images are linked, but the 
other thousands will have to be relinked anyway because there's tons of 
duplicates.

  I wish someone would scrap GEDCOM and come out with a workable solution to 
converting between genealogy programs.  It's getting so genealogy is not fun 
anymore and not worth all this work.  It's more of a pain having to relink over 
8,000 images and I'm not a big fan of Legacy's way of organizing images.  It 
needs improvement.

  Ninety nine percent of my problem I blame on FTM 2009.

  Bill Boswell






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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please

2009-09-22 Thread Jenny M Benson

Ward Walker wrote
After the 'Comments about this master source' have been surreptitiously 
copied to the 'Comments' field, can you manually clear the Comments 
field, as a workaround?


No!  Deleting text from one place deletes it in the other.

It's all a bit odd:  I now see that the grey hint text in the 
Comments field is shown in black in the Master Source Comments 
field.  If I click in the Comments field and enter text, it appears 
black and left aligned, but if I go into Master Source Comments, 
delete the hint text and type my own, that then appears in the 
Comments field in grey and centred.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please

2009-09-22 Thread Freddy
On Sep 22, 2009 7:45 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

Ward Walker wrote

  After the 'Comments about this master source' have been surreptitiously
copied to the 'Comments...
No!  Deleting text from one place deletes it in the other.

It's all a bit odd:  I now see that the grey hint text in the Comments
field is shown in black in the Master Source Comments field.  If I click
in the Comments field and enter text, it appears black and left aligned,
but if I go into Master Source Comments, delete the hint text and type
my own, that then appears in the Comments field in grey and centred.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Minor problem using Access to convert a source's format

2009-09-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks Brian!  It is not holding me up, but I'm glad you followed up on it.  Do 
you think there is an additional field that goes along with being a SW source 
that we should be changing in Access?  A field that gets set correctly when the 
SW source is opened for Edit?
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough 
Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd 
Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald 
Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams 



- Original Message 
From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:19:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Minor problem using Access to convert a source's format

We had a problem report on the issue of combining sources in our system. It was 
marked as resolved in our latest update so I tested it today. I have now passed 
it back to the programmers for more work. You should not have to edit the 
source and cancel before the combine button works.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
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We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 Hi Paula,
 
 That is just a simple quirk of Legacy since Source Writer Sources were
 introduced.
 
 When you Highlite ANY Source Writer Source and then click the Combine
 Highlighted Source with another in List button all the radio buttons
 on top right should go greyed out except for the Cancel button. Just
 click Edit  Cancel Combine Highlighted Source with another in
 List button. Now it will go to grey and you can combine the 2
 sources.
 
 Thank Ron Ferguson for that solution.
 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please

2009-09-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
I have seen inconsistencies in those grey hint text lines... different issues 
on different templates.  E.g., when you start typing the hint doesn't go away 
and what you type is grey, when you start typing the hint goes away but what 
you type is centered and grey, etc.  Do you think I should be reporting those 
as bugs?  If those details have been overlooked, I start wondering what else 
may have been missed?  (like Jenny's bug)
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough 
Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd 
Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald 
Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams 



- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:56:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, 
please

Ward Walker wrote
 After the 'Comments about this master source' have been surreptitiously 
 copied to the 'Comments' field, can you manually clear the Comments field, as 
 a workaround?

No!  Deleting text from one place deletes it in the other.

It's all a bit odd:  I now see that the grey hint text in the Comments 
field is shown in black in the Master Source Comments field.  If I click in 
the Comments field and enter text, it appears black and left aligned, but if 
I go into Master Source Comments, delete the hint text and type my own, 
that then appears in the Comments field in grey and centred.
-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

2009-09-22 Thread Jim Walton
Just to give you an idea, I live in Korea so I ran two tests. The first to a
local server in Seoul showed

Down: 13.40
Up: 7.85

I then switched to a server in San Francisco, half-way around the world and
got these results

Down: 7.61
Up: 2.01

My worst case is twice your speeds. Korea, however, is known to have some of
the fastest Internet connectivity in the world. So, down towards the bottom
of the page where you did your test is a button (actually more of a text
block) that says How do your results stack up? Click on that and it will
show you how you compare to others in your area.

Jim


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Michele Lewis
cranberryf...@charter.netwrote:

 I did the speed test and these are the results...

 download 3.89
 upload 1.00

 so now tell me what that means.

 michele


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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages



  This is getting slightly off topic but since it does directly affect
 Legacy
 users that are trying to upload web pages, here is one more shot at things
 to remember:

 1. Your upload speed is not affected by choice of operating systems; Vista
 or XP have no effect on your upload speed.
 2. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your amount of RAM
 (unless you are so underspec but then you'd notice problems with just
 running any programs. For the average system, adding additional RAM will
 not
 increase your upload speed.
 3. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your brand of
 computer.
 4. Your upload speed is not defined by merely saying cable modem, DSL,
 satellite, etc, all of which are loosely defined as broadband but
 bandwidth can and does vary widely. Some cable modem connections are only
 768K while others are up to 18Mbps (that's over 23 times faster).
 5. A dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that your
 upload speed is almost always severely reduced over what your download
 speed
 is supposed to be.
 6. Another dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that
 your up/download speed is not guaranteed but rather sold to you as up
 to
 X Mbps. Your results may varyand they will.
 7. The speed and efficiency of the server to which you are uploading will
 affect the time it takes you to transfer files. Normally, it isn't much of
 a
 factor unless you are using AOL, etc.

 If you don't know for sure, call and ask your ISP exactly what speed
 package
 you are paying for: you need two numbers as an answer. For example, a
 typical answer might be 3 Meg down and 256K up. Note that in this
 example
 it's the 256K upload speed which determines how long it takes for you to
 upload web pages.

 Finally (and really getting off topic now), if you are still having long
 delays uploading web pages, go here to test your ACTUAL speed as opposed
 to
 what you are paying for:
 http://www.speedtest.net/

 Brian in CA


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 From: Michele Lewis [mailto:cranberryf...@charter.net]
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:52 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

 I have a Dell laptop with 2GB RAM.  I am running Vista.  I am not
 uploading
 any pictures at all.  I use a cable modem for my internet connection.

 michele




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