Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Martin A. Hansen
more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):

when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
things?

disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem, but
irritating.


what is the correct place to report these findings?



martin


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
 
 when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
 newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
 things?
 
 disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
 but irritating.
 
 
 what is the correct place to report these findings?

Here I guess, although not many people actually know this bit of the code.

One person you might contact is Jane McKean who's email is on the wiki 
page. She uses this thing a lot and will no doubt be able to help with the 
user experience.

-- 
Angus



Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Martin A. Hansen
i am collecting user experience, and there do seem to be some features
and some minor bugs around.

e.g. inserting whitespace does not show in track changes. so if i
correct moonrocket to moon rocket, it doent show.



martin




On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 10:37:21AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 
  more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
  
  when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
  newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
  things?
  
  disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
  but irritating.
  
  
  what is the correct place to report these findings?
 
 Here I guess, although not many people actually know this bit of the code.
 
 One person you might contact is Jane McKean who's email is on the wiki 
 page. She uses this thing a lot and will no doubt be able to help with the 
 user experience.
 
 -- 
 Angus


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
 
 when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
 newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
 things?
 
 disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
 but irritating.
 
 
 what is the correct place to report these findings?

The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development version,
some problems are still there.

You could file bug reports to http://www.bugzilla.lyx.org, then we can check
whether the problem also exists in the official (1.4) code.

Jürgen




Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
 maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development version,
 some problems are still there.

Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted 
correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?

 You could file bug reports to http://www.bugzilla.lyx.org, then we can
 check whether the problem also exists in the official (1.4) code.
 
 Jürgen

-- 
Angus



Re: question: no font-slant function?

2005-05-11 Thread G. Milde
On 10.05.05, Serge Winitzki wrote:
 
 I am toying now with the idea of a LyX chat application where two
 instances of LyX will be connected via pipes/TCP and both users will be
 able to simultaneously edit a single LyX document in real time.
 
...
 the idea seems simple enough for a quick Python script, based on the
 Python client class for the LyX server (which I found on the LyX wiki
 site).

I am glad to hear that the python LyX package finds a use (beyond my own).
This strengthens my belief that the lyx server has a great potential for
user-provided extensions to lyx, if only the interface is easy to handle...

Currently I am finishing tests on the next version -- be warned that the
package is still in experimental state, so that the API can change.

BTW: Currently, there is a potential name clash between the LyX package and
LyX.py included by lyx2lyx.

José, what do you think about a generic LyX python package including
ly2lyx (and friends), lyxclient (and friends) and maybe more (e.g.
lyxchat)? (This would need some more thoughts about the right place of
the files and incorporating with the python path.)

Guenter


-- 
G.Milde web.de


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 10:59, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
  The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
  maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development
  version, some problems are still there.

 Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted
 correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?

  I have a vague memory that it is. I think that we should warn 1.3.x change 
tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change tracking from 
1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't exists. I don't know 
where to put this warning...

-- 
José Abílio


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Jose' Matos wrote:
 Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted
 correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?
 
 I have a vague memory that it is. I think that we should warn 1.3.x
 change tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change tracking from
 1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't exists. I don't know
 where to put this warning...

Why not make it an 'optional' revert?

lyx2lyx -to 221 --revert-change-tracking ...

else emit a warning when change-tracking code is found.

-- 
Angus



Re: question: no font-slant function?

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 11:12, G. Milde wrote:
 On 10.05.05, Serge Winitzki wrote:
...
  the idea seems simple enough for a quick Python script, based on the
  Python client class for the LyX server (which I found on the LyX wiki
  site).

 I am glad to hear that the python LyX package finds a use (beyond my
 own). This strengthens my belief that the lyx server has a great
 potential for user-provided extensions to lyx, if only the interface is
 easy to handle...

 Currently I am finishing tests on the next version -- be warned that the
 package is still in experimental state, so that the API can change.

 BTW: Currently, there is a potential name clash between the LyX package
 and LyX.py included by lyx2lyx.

 José, what do you think about a generic LyX python package including
 ly2lyx (and friends), lyxclient (and friends) and maybe more (e.g.
 lyxchat)?

  I couldn't be happier... ;-)

 (This would need some more thoughts about the right place of 
 the files and incorporating with the python path.)

  That was also my thought. :-)
  One idea would be to transform LyX into a package instead of it being a 
module.

  Notice that we already have other scripts in python to generate the TOC 
for the lyx documentation that use LyX.pm, this is for 1.4.x where we 
replaced the previous perl scripts. Since these scripts are inside doc I 
use the path.modules to load the right one.

 Guenter

-- 
José Abílio


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 11:17, Angus Leeming wrote:
 I think that we should warn 1.3.x

  change tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change
  tracking from 1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't
  exists. I don't know where to put this warning...

 Why not make it an 'optional' revert?

 lyx2lyx -to 221 --revert-change-tracking ...

 else emit a warning when change-tracking code is found.

I opened a bug report so that it is not forgoten as I don't have time now to 
work on it. I added also your suggestion.

Bug #1880

-- 
José Abílio


indent first paragraph

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello All.

I need to typeset a Russian book, whose conventions demand that I
indent each and every paragraph, including those after a section, etc.

I tried \usepackage{indentfirst} in the preamble, but that still does
NOT indent paragraphs coming after an enumeration or a bulleted list.

Is _complete_ first paragraph indentation possible automatically? I
mean without manually inserting the appropriate ERTs before
paragraphs?

Any help is appreciated.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello All.

I have a book with several long chapter titles that take more than one
line,  and  I fixed the problem of them titles going beyond the margin
in  TOC  by  allowing hyperref breaks in the hyperref package, which I
happen to use.

However, since the book class uses headings on every page by default
(which I like), those several long chapter titles end up going beyond
the page margin in the headings too, which is ugly.

Moreover, when I insert a manual line break in the actual chapter
titles, this break is not showing in the headings, which is outright
wrong.

Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
layout.

Thanks.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Andrei Popov writes:
 However, since the book class uses headings on every page by default
 (which I like), those several long chapter titles end up going beyond
 the page margin in the headings too, which is ugly.

 Moreover, when I insert a manual line break in the actual chapter
 titles, this break is not showing in the headings, which is outright
 wrong.

 Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
 headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
 layout.

A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the Short 
Title option under the Insert menu?

-K

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations


Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello Kevin,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:44:13 PM, you wrote:

 Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
 headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
 layout.

 A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the Short
 Title option under the Insert menu?

This is not an option, unfortunately.

I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.

I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread samar
Hello Kevin,
Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:44:13 PM, you wrote:
Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
layout.

A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the Short
Title option under the Insert menu?
This is not an option, unfortunately.
I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.
I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.
--
WBR,
Andrei Popov
Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux
Does that not mean that you  have little choice other than to reduce the 
size of text in the headings which is possible.

samar





Re: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:19:22 +0300
From: Andrei Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

Hello Kevin,

 A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the Short
 Title option under the Insert menu?

This is not an option, unfortunately.

I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.

I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.

I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox with limited 
width,
latex will format your headings in multiple lines to fit.
Of course,the height of the area in the page layout must be enough to cope with 
this.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello Jean-Pierre,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 4:34:59 PM, you wrote:

 I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox
 with limited width, latex will format your headings in multiple
 lines to fit. Of course,the height of the area in the page layout
 must be enough to cope with this.

Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

Thanks again.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:12:29 +0300
From: Andrei Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 14:12:29.0401 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[77413490:01C55633]

Hello Jean-Pierre,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 4:34:59 PM, you wrote:

 I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox
 with limited width, latex will format your headings in multiple
 lines to fit. Of course,the height of the area in the page layout
 must be enough to cope with this.

Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

Encapsulate the running header commands \leftmark and \rightmark in a parbox, 
e.g. with fancyplain pagstyle,
to have the long titles extend to half the textwidth:
\rhead[\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\leftmark}}]{\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}}
\lhead[\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}]{\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\rightmark}}

(sorry, I guess this is the old fancyheader syntax, bur it works with fancyhdr).
To get the page number aligned with the bottom line, \parbox[b]{...


-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re[6]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Greetings, Jean-Pierre.

You wrote on Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 5:51:43 PM:

Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

 Encapsulate the running header commands \leftmark and \rightmark
 in a parbox, e.g. with fancyplain pagstyle,
 to have the long titles extend to half the textwidth:
 \rhead[\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\leftmark}}]{\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}}
 \lhead[\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}]{\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\rightmark}}

 (sorry, I guess this is the old fancyheader syntax, bur it works with 
 fancyhdr).
 To get the page number aligned with the bottom line, \parbox[b]{...

Thanks a lot, Jean-Pierre, I'll try it out!

-- 
Best Regards,
Andrei Popov



Limit conditions (math)

2005-05-11 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
Hi
I am trying to get a limit equation to work in lyx but am not sure how to 
proceed.  I need the following

lim
z-10
I can get the lim but dont know how to put the conditions of that limit 
underneath it without going onto a second line.  ANyone had any experience 
of this before

Geoff


Re: Limit conditions (math)

2005-05-11 Thread Paul Smith
On 5/11/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to get a limit equation to work in lyx but am not sure how to
 proceed.  I need the following
 
 lim
 z-10
 
 I can get the lim but dont know how to put the conditions of that limit
 underneath it without going onto a second line.  ANyone had any experience
 of this before

Geoffrey: after writing lim, 

shift+_

or, maybe you are wanting:

write \displaystyle and then the lim as usual.

This should do what you are wanting.

Paul


Re: Selecting typefaces for ancient Greek?

2005-05-11 Thread Luis Rivera
Hi,

cbgreek by Claudio Beccari is the default option for babel; however, it
uses bitmapped fonts by default, and when it comes to outlined fonts it
is rather large (over 70 Mb); Alexej Kryukov assembled the cm-lgc
package (in CTAN:/fonts/ps-type1), which does a pretty good job at
substitution of T1 (Latin), LGR (Greek) and T2 (Cyrillic) fonts in
about 13Mb; however, depending on how you want to enter the text in
LyX, you might try ibycus-babel, which has its own set of fonts, some
of them outlined.  Assuming you're using the default Beccari encoding,
try \usepackage{cm-lgc} after downloading it.  It is pretty small and
straightforward...

Personally, I find the ibycus package quite satisfactory, specially
because it uses something close to Beta encoding (TLG or Perseus texts)
without messing with LaTeX backslashes; both cm-lgc and ibycus are pfb
based, meaning that they are not bitmapped.

Cheers,

Luis


J.L.Rivera
Universidad Panamericana
Facultad de Filosofia
Departamento de Estudios Libres
03920 Mexico DF

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purpose.-- Ludwig Wittgenstein.




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behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jane McKean
Martin:

 ok - i cleared the preamble and tracking changes works. however, i
 observe strange behavior:

 1) i generated a new document, entered some text, enabled tracking changes, 
 and 
 addied some more text and deleted some. this shows nicely in lyx. hoever, in 
 dvi it shows in black  white only. in postscript it shows in colors, but 
 there 
 is no vertical bars in the margin.
 
 2) using tracking changes with my paper. i cleared the preamble (as
 first stated). tracking changed shows well in lyx, but not at all in
 dvi. it does show in postscript, but still no vertical bars in the margins.
 
 
 ideas?
 
 martin

To see the vertical change bars in my PDFs, I have to adjust the margins. In my 
docs I set 
the outer margins to 2.75 in. (Layout  Document  Margins). I set them back to 
1.75 for my
final PDFs. 

Yes, it is annoying that accepting all the changes bounces you to the end of 
the doc, but it's
something I found I can live with. Deleting a space will only show up as the 
vertical change bar,
which is probably being displayed outside of your page margins now. 

Hope this helps. I have found the change bars to be very helpful in our 
documentation production 
cycle (I wouldn't be able to use LyX for our doc tool without them) and I'm 
anxious to see 
the 1.4 change bar feature. 

Thank LyX team!
--jane
-- 
Jane McKean
Technical Documentation
PathScale, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread John Levon
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 10:14:14AM -0700, Jane McKean wrote:

 Yes, it is annoying that accepting all the changes bounces you to the
 end of the doc, but it's something I found I can live with.

It is still a bug though; if it's not filed already, it should be.

regards
john


Re: OS X Tigger

2005-05-11 Thread Chris Menzel
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:09:15AM +0800, Rob Davies wrote:
 Do let us know if there is an incompatibility there.
 
 
 There is an incompatibility there! :-)  The 10.3 wiki instructions
 fail for 10.4; setting the LyX Spellchecker pref to aspell and then
 doing a spellcheck brings up the error msg:
 
 It is not an incompatibility, because it is not installed.

Ah, but it is!

   Error: The file /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english can not be  
  opened for reading.
 
 There is no such file, or subdir, as english in
 /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60.  (Nor is there, for that matter, any such
 file in the aspell-0.60 distribution on my FreeBSD box -- which
 suggests perhaps aspell is not being called correctly within LyX?)
 I've tried setting numerous symlinks therein to dictionary files and
 such that  are residing in /Library/Application
 Support/cocoAspell/aspell6- en-6.0-0 to no avail (all of which
 returned an error msg to the effect that the  file I tried linking to
 was in the wrong format).  aspell works just fine from the command
 line, btw.
 
 If you have installed cocoAspell 2.? then you will not need the link  
 as it already does this for you.

I have installed cocoAspell 2.0.1, and there is no such link (unless
perhaps I'm not understanding what this in it already does this for
you).

 What you need to do is follow the link to the dictionaries on  
 cocoAspell site and download aspell6-en-6.0-0.tar.bz2. Decompress and  
 place folder in /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell this places  
 it where OS X Tigger looks for it then go into your System  
 Preferences and select dictionaries. 

The package install program does all of this for you.  (Just to be sure,
I went and grabbed the file in question and unzipped it.  It is exactly
what I find in /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0.)

 Now try LyX if it works congrats if not then their is another trick.  
 Copy  the file you downloaded from the one you placed in cocoAspell  
 using command line tool (Terminal) go to where folder is and type  
 executing with the return key after each command.
 
 ./configure
 make
 make install
 
 This installs the dictionary in the actual Aspell folder at /usr/ 
 local/lib/aspell-0.60 

It was already there.

 and LyX should work with this dictionary now.

Blimey, must have been a permissions thing, as the content of the two
relevant dirs appears not to have changed, but this did the trick!
Something must be just a bit wonky with the cocoAspell package
installer.

Much obliged!

-chris



Re: lyx in spanish?

2005-05-11 Thread Luis Rivera
Hello,
Marcelo Acuf1a [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Perhaps qt lib is not guilty of dead keys.
 

as for the keyboard issues, I can say nothing (I use Ruurd's QtLyX on Win32, 
and the keyboard switch works fine.  Thank you, Ruurd!)...

As for the hyphenation,

 *** Hyphenation no work
 
 In log file of latex I can see that module of spanish hyphenation not was 
loaded for latex. In accordance with
 advices I edited 
 
 /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat
 
 and then
 
 run iniTeX
 
 and several others actions along several weeks, none of this work.
 

LyX uses LaTeX in the background, as far as I know; and the package babel takes 
care of language management, so you MUST get acquainted with many forks and 
dead ends of babel, if you want to typeset real polyglot.

Having said that, the advice was sound: you change the language declaration in 
texmf:/tex/generic/config/language.dat, and then you recompile the formats.  
This should take care of loading the hyphenation patterns.  Then you specify 
the languages you use in your document either in \documentclass[langs]
{class} or \usepackage[langs]{babel} and switch languages according to 
babel's conventions (\foreignlanguage, \setlanguage, etc).  All of this happens 
at LaTeX level; I don't use spellchecking: I trust my Liberal Arts 
education... :)

 *** 
 
 Other problems remains:
 
 1) When I invoke Find  Replace I can't to type accented characters or  
equals to the used for lyx in the text.
 This characters look equals but are differents in code.
 
 2) I defined double quoted and I can't to type this in Find  Replace.
 
 3) When I include Chapter* in TOC with ERT: \addcontents ... a point appears 
in the left of the entry. This not
 occur in english.
 
 4) I have an hybrid style. After itemizes, tables, fig, etc. next paragraph 
is not indented. After title of
 section the paragraph get indentation. I need modify a lot of paragraph for 
get coherence.
 

Apparently, it all depends on the encoding of the text you're entering.  If the 
system is using something awkward in an awkward way, you can neither enter 
accented characters nor search/replace them.  So in some way it's not LyX's 
fault (I have no problem at all with accents on Win32); but SUSE's settings.

PS.  I am NOT promoting the boot sector virus commonly called Windows; it's 
my school's fault, not mine, that I don't use a true operating system.  Please 
send no flame in this direction... :)



Re: lyx in spanish?

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 00:36, Marcelo Acuf1a wrote:
 1) When I invoke Find  Replace I can't to type accented characters or 
 equals to the used for lyx in the text. This characters look equals but
 are differents in code.

  True, if you are using a utf-8 locale the characters inserted inside any 
widget (Is this the right name?), with the single exception of the main 
canvas, are not converted to the document encoding but remain utf-8.

  This is certainly a more general problem I am describing what I have seen 
before. :-) And no I didn't remember to add this report to bugzilla or to 
search it there.

-- 
Jos Ablio


Re: Limit conditions (math)

2005-05-11 Thread Hannan Sadar
Hi,

You could do:
\lim Space Shift _ z-10 Space
One Move with your Left arrow and then press
Alt m - l ( This will move z-10 under the lim)

This will also help with \sum

Hope it helps

Hannan

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

 Hi

 I am trying to get a limit equation to work in lyx but am not sure how
 to proceed.  I need the following

 lim
 z-10

 I can get the lim but dont know how to put the conditions of that
 limit underneath it without going onto a second line.  ANyone had any
 experience of this before


 Geoff




Re: lyx in spanish?

2005-05-11 Thread Luis Rivera
Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 On Tuesday 10 May 2005 00:36, Marcelo Acuf1a wrote:
  1) When I invoke Find  Replace I can't to type accented characters or 
  equals to the used for lyx in the text. This characters look equals but
  are differents in code.
 
   True, if you are using a utf-8 locale the characters inserted inside any 
 widget (Is this the right name?), with the single exception of the main 
 canvas, are not converted to the document encoding but remain utf-8.
 

OK. So it might be that LyX is using some encoding at file storage level and 
something else at display level. People sometimes run into this trouble in 
Win#@ too: they enter (unknowingly, of course) utf text in some version of 
W*rd, and they get white squares at another...

The solution is to use the same encoding consistently in both system file 
storage and application.  If you set the locale (or whatever input device you 
are using) to use ISO-8859-1 (Latin 1) for display, and set \usepackage[latin1]
{inputenc} in the preamble of your LyX/LaTeX file, you should get something 
close to what you want: the characters on screen are those stored in file.  I 
do something like this to fix some odd-encoded files in Win#@, and it works...





Online bibtex-ressources (for social science)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
Is is possible to lookup literature on some online ressource (e.g. Amazon) and 
get ready made bibtex entries, so you don't have to type it in by hand? Is 
there a bibtex manager that can do this kind of lookup?

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: lyx in spanish?

2005-05-11 Thread Matej Cepl
Luis Rivera scripsit:
 OK. So it might be that LyX is using some encoding at file storage level
 and something else at display level. People sometimes run into this
 trouble in Win#@ too: they enter (unknowingly, of course) utf text in some
 version of W*rd, and they get white squares at another...

I think that this will be only resolved when we switch to XML and
(therefore?) UTF-8. I know that UTF-8 is not mandatory for XML, but it
seems to me that switch to XML would be so big, that Unicodization would be
trivial in comparison (and it would be really helpful if in future LyX
would go towards KDEization -- do I understand it correctly that you have
to be Unicodized in order to be KDE?). The fact that couple of people
mentioned acronyms like DTD in the last couple of days seems to be hopeful
(of course, I do not hope for anything earlier than 1.5, but still it is
better than nothing).

Matej

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Re: Online bibtex-ressources (for social science)

2005-05-11 Thread Justin Walker
On May 11, 2005, at 12:18, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
Is is possible to lookup literature on some online ressource (e.g. 
Amazon) and
get ready made bibtex entries, so you don't have to type it in by 
hand? Is
there a bibtex manager that can do this kind of lookup?
My knowledge is limited, but for Mac OS X, there is at least one 
program, Books http://books.aetherial.net, that will do something 
like you want.  You can give it an ISBN number, and it will populate a 
database with info from, e.g., Amazon or LoC.  Then you can export it 
as a bibtex entry.

HTH.
Regards,
Justin
--
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Institute for General Semantics

If you're not confused,
You're not paying attention



Re: Online bibtex-ressources (for social science)

2005-05-11 Thread Stefano Franchi
BibDesk, another BibTeX manager for MacOs X, has some scripts that 
allow searching and importing references from online resources like 
Amazon or RedLightGreen books. It is an open source program and it's 
under constant  development. Quite possibly the most refined BibTex 
manager around. More info at:
http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/

Best,
Stefano
On May 11, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
Is is possible to lookup literature on some online ressource (e.g. 
Amazon) and
get ready made bibtex entries, so you don't have to type it in by 
hand? Is
there a bibtex manager that can do this kind of lookup?

Janus
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Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.
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Re: OS X Tigger

2005-05-11 Thread Marc J. Driftmeyer
Okay.  I just decided to install LyX-Qt on Tiger since I'm also  
installing KDE 3.4 via Fink.

Downloaded the tgz for LyX, extracted it.
Downloaded the cocoaAspell 2.0.1.  installed it.
Installed the LyX pkg.
Ran spell check which promptly gave the error in my Fink distribution  
that aspell-en is missing.

Run Fink Commander.  Aspell by default installs everything but your  
language specific options.

Selected aspell-en and installed from source.
Ran F7 to spell check and the Inspector showed up as expected and off  
to spell check land I go.

This is very simple.  Aspell-en or your language of choice needs to  
have a note via Fink that it needs to later be installed for one's  
localization specific needs.

Marc J. Driftmeyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.reanimality.com
Infinite Nothingness is the Limit of Being -- marc j. driftmeyer
On May 11, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Chris Menzel wrote:
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:09:15AM +0800, Rob Davies wrote:
Do let us know if there is an incompatibility there.

There is an incompatibility there! :-)  The 10.3 wiki instructions
fail for 10.4; setting the LyX Spellchecker pref to aspell and  
then
doing a spellcheck brings up the error msg:

It is not an incompatibility, because it is not installed.
Ah, but it is!

 Error: The file /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english can not be
opened for reading.
There is no such file, or subdir, as english in
/usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60.  (Nor is there, for that matter, any  
such
file in the aspell-0.60 distribution on my FreeBSD box -- which
suggests perhaps aspell is not being called correctly within LyX?)
I've tried setting numerous symlinks therein to dictionary files and
such that  are residing in /Library/Application
Support/cocoAspell/aspell6- en-6.0-0 to no avail (all of which
returned an error msg to the effect that the  file I tried  
linking to
was in the wrong format).  aspell works just fine from the command
line, btw.

If you have installed cocoAspell 2.? then you will not need the link
as it already does this for you.
I have installed cocoAspell 2.0.1, and there is no such link (unless
perhaps I'm not understanding what this in it already does this for
you).

What you need to do is follow the link to the dictionaries on
cocoAspell site and download aspell6-en-6.0-0.tar.bz2. Decompress and
place folder in /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell this places
it where OS X Tigger looks for it then go into your System
Preferences and select dictionaries.
The package install program does all of this for you.  (Just to be  
sure,
I went and grabbed the file in question and unzipped it.  It is  
exactly
what I find in /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6- 
en-6.0-0.)


Now try LyX if it works congrats if not then their is another trick.
Copy  the file you downloaded from the one you placed in cocoAspell
using command line tool (Terminal) go to where folder is and type
executing with the return key after each command.
./configure
make
make install
This installs the dictionary in the actual Aspell folder at /usr/
local/lib/aspell-0.60
It was already there.

and LyX should work with this dictionary now.
Blimey, must have been a permissions thing, as the content of the two
relevant dirs appears not to have changed, but this did the trick!
Something must be just a bit wonky with the cocoAspell package
installer.
Much obliged!
-chris




Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 12:20, Tim Michelsen wrote:

 The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over.
 He works on TeXniccenter. :-(  But a major drawback - as stated in my
 initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies)
 including citation inside footnotes and outside.

Subscribe! I am also looking very much forward to this possibility since I 
prefer citations in footnotes over those in (brackets) in the text - and it 
sounds as if JuraBib is just the think for people like me. So far I am 
manageing by a pragmatic solution: inserting my bib-references in footnotes 
created manually. Maybe your colleague could do the same?

 All citations should be 
 able to have a see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes.

What do you mean by a see-option?

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


\nocite{*} changes bibliography style (when using natbib)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
Hi there,

I would like to show all (or additional) literature from my bib-file in the 
bibliography, and not just the literature I am citing. I have tried to follow 
the advise at:

http://www.texnik.de//bibtex/bibtex.phtml#cite*

by inserting \nocite{*} as ERT in my LyX document. But this changes the look 
of my bibliography from apalike - author (year) title - to a numerical 
notation.

I am using NatBib with the autor-year option.
Style: apalike.
LyX 1.3.4 on Linux

What am I doing wrong? How do I ask NatBib to add literature to the 
bibliopraphy that is not citet?

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-11 Thread Meri Williams
Followup on my problem from before:

I still haven't managed to fix it so the NatBib and apalike Bib style
work happily together. I've changed to an alternative style (simple
natbib essentially) and it seems to work OK. Because this works fine,
I assume that it is something weird about the apalike style once you
get to more than 30 citations, or to having more than a couple of
articles by the same author.

Hope that reassures anyone who's stressed about it happening to THEIR thesis ;-)

Still very little clue about how to fix the original problem, but I
think it needs someone with more LyX/LaTeX knowledge than me and the
time to look (my diss is due in 4 days!!)

Thanks
Meri

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shameless plug http://blog.meriwilliams.com/ /shameless plug


Re: OS X Tigger

2005-05-11 Thread Rob Davies
Morning,

./configure
make
make install
This installs the dictionary in the actual Aspell folder at /usr/
local/lib/aspell-0.60
It was already there.
Yes, the folder is their, but the compiled library is not hence the  
English that LyX is searching for it is also the process that Tigger  
goes through when you place dictionary in cocoAspell.

So, the compile is what will trigger the library to be usable!
Cheers!
Rob Davies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can always tell if you're working on a Mac or a PC, he said.  
Just take your applications and stick them in and see if they run  
(Gates 05). If it does Welcome to Mac OS X! (RJDarts 05).



Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Martin A. Hansen
more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):

when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
things?

disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem, but
irritating.


what is the correct place to report these findings?



martin


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
 
 when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
 newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
 things?
 
 disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
 but irritating.
 
 
 what is the correct place to report these findings?

Here I guess, although not many people actually know this bit of the code.

One person you might contact is Jane McKean who's email is on the wiki 
page. She uses this thing a lot and will no doubt be able to help with the 
user experience.

-- 
Angus



Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Martin A. Hansen
i am collecting user experience, and there do seem to be some features
and some minor bugs around.

e.g. inserting whitespace does not show in track changes. so if i
correct moonrocket to moon rocket, it doent show.



martin




On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 10:37:21AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 
  more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
  
  when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
  newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
  things?
  
  disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
  but irritating.
  
  
  what is the correct place to report these findings?
 
 Here I guess, although not many people actually know this bit of the code.
 
 One person you might contact is Jane McKean who's email is on the wiki 
 page. She uses this thing a lot and will no doubt be able to help with the 
 user experience.
 
 -- 
 Angus


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
 
 when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
 newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
 things?
 
 disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
 but irritating.
 
 
 what is the correct place to report these findings?

The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development version,
some problems are still there.

You could file bug reports to http://www.bugzilla.lyx.org, then we can check
whether the problem also exists in the official (1.4) code.

Jürgen




Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
 maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development version,
 some problems are still there.

Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted 
correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?

 You could file bug reports to http://www.bugzilla.lyx.org, then we can
 check whether the problem also exists in the official (1.4) code.
 
 Jürgen

-- 
Angus



Re: question: no font-slant function?

2005-05-11 Thread G. Milde
On 10.05.05, Serge Winitzki wrote:
 
 I am toying now with the idea of a LyX chat application where two
 instances of LyX will be connected via pipes/TCP and both users will be
 able to simultaneously edit a single LyX document in real time.
 
...
 the idea seems simple enough for a quick Python script, based on the
 Python client class for the LyX server (which I found on the LyX wiki
 site).

I am glad to hear that the python LyX package finds a use (beyond my own).
This strengthens my belief that the lyx server has a great potential for
user-provided extensions to lyx, if only the interface is easy to handle...

Currently I am finishing tests on the next version -- be warned that the
package is still in experimental state, so that the API can change.

BTW: Currently, there is a potential name clash between the LyX package and
LyX.py included by lyx2lyx.

José, what do you think about a generic LyX python package including
ly2lyx (and friends), lyxclient (and friends) and maybe more (e.g.
lyxchat)? (This would need some more thoughts about the right place of
the files and incorporating with the python path.)

Guenter


-- 
G.Milde web.de


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 10:59, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
  The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
  maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development
  version, some problems are still there.

 Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted
 correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?

  I have a vague memory that it is. I think that we should warn 1.3.x change 
tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change tracking from 
1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't exists. I don't know 
where to put this warning...

-- 
José Abílio


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Jose' Matos wrote:
 Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted
 correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?
 
 I have a vague memory that it is. I think that we should warn 1.3.x
 change tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change tracking from
 1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't exists. I don't know
 where to put this warning...

Why not make it an 'optional' revert?

lyx2lyx -to 221 --revert-change-tracking ...

else emit a warning when change-tracking code is found.

-- 
Angus



Re: question: no font-slant function?

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 11:12, G. Milde wrote:
 On 10.05.05, Serge Winitzki wrote:
...
  the idea seems simple enough for a quick Python script, based on the
  Python client class for the LyX server (which I found on the LyX wiki
  site).

 I am glad to hear that the python LyX package finds a use (beyond my
 own). This strengthens my belief that the lyx server has a great
 potential for user-provided extensions to lyx, if only the interface is
 easy to handle...

 Currently I am finishing tests on the next version -- be warned that the
 package is still in experimental state, so that the API can change.

 BTW: Currently, there is a potential name clash between the LyX package
 and LyX.py included by lyx2lyx.

 José, what do you think about a generic LyX python package including
 ly2lyx (and friends), lyxclient (and friends) and maybe more (e.g.
 lyxchat)?

  I couldn't be happier... ;-)

 (This would need some more thoughts about the right place of 
 the files and incorporating with the python path.)

  That was also my thought. :-)
  One idea would be to transform LyX into a package instead of it being a 
module.

  Notice that we already have other scripts in python to generate the TOC 
for the lyx documentation that use LyX.pm, this is for 1.4.x where we 
replaced the previous perl scripts. Since these scripts are inside doc I 
use the path.modules to load the right one.

 Guenter

-- 
José Abílio


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 11:17, Angus Leeming wrote:
 I think that we should warn 1.3.x

  change tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change
  tracking from 1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't
  exists. I don't know where to put this warning...

 Why not make it an 'optional' revert?

 lyx2lyx -to 221 --revert-change-tracking ...

 else emit a warning when change-tracking code is found.

I opened a bug report so that it is not forgoten as I don't have time now to 
work on it. I added also your suggestion.

Bug #1880

-- 
José Abílio


indent first paragraph

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello All.

I need to typeset a Russian book, whose conventions demand that I
indent each and every paragraph, including those after a section, etc.

I tried \usepackage{indentfirst} in the preamble, but that still does
NOT indent paragraphs coming after an enumeration or a bulleted list.

Is _complete_ first paragraph indentation possible automatically? I
mean without manually inserting the appropriate ERTs before
paragraphs?

Any help is appreciated.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello All.

I have a book with several long chapter titles that take more than one
line,  and  I fixed the problem of them titles going beyond the margin
in  TOC  by  allowing hyperref breaks in the hyperref package, which I
happen to use.

However, since the book class uses headings on every page by default
(which I like), those several long chapter titles end up going beyond
the page margin in the headings too, which is ugly.

Moreover, when I insert a manual line break in the actual chapter
titles, this break is not showing in the headings, which is outright
wrong.

Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
layout.

Thanks.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Andrei Popov writes:
 However, since the book class uses headings on every page by default
 (which I like), those several long chapter titles end up going beyond
 the page margin in the headings too, which is ugly.

 Moreover, when I insert a manual line break in the actual chapter
 titles, this break is not showing in the headings, which is outright
 wrong.

 Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
 headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
 layout.

A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the Short 
Title option under the Insert menu?

-K

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations


Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello Kevin,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:44:13 PM, you wrote:

 Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
 headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
 layout.

 A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the Short
 Title option under the Insert menu?

This is not an option, unfortunately.

I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.

I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread samar
Hello Kevin,
Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:44:13 PM, you wrote:
Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
layout.

A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the Short
Title option under the Insert menu?
This is not an option, unfortunately.
I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.
I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.
--
WBR,
Andrei Popov
Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux
Does that not mean that you  have little choice other than to reduce the 
size of text in the headings which is possible.

samar





Re: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:19:22 +0300
From: Andrei Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

Hello Kevin,

 A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the Short
 Title option under the Insert menu?

This is not an option, unfortunately.

I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.

I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.

I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox with limited 
width,
latex will format your headings in multiple lines to fit.
Of course,the height of the area in the page layout must be enough to cope with 
this.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello Jean-Pierre,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 4:34:59 PM, you wrote:

 I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox
 with limited width, latex will format your headings in multiple
 lines to fit. Of course,the height of the area in the page layout
 must be enough to cope with this.

Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

Thanks again.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:12:29 +0300
From: Andrei Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 14:12:29.0401 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[77413490:01C55633]

Hello Jean-Pierre,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 4:34:59 PM, you wrote:

 I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox
 with limited width, latex will format your headings in multiple
 lines to fit. Of course,the height of the area in the page layout
 must be enough to cope with this.

Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

Encapsulate the running header commands \leftmark and \rightmark in a parbox, 
e.g. with fancyplain pagstyle,
to have the long titles extend to half the textwidth:
\rhead[\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\leftmark}}]{\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}}
\lhead[\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}]{\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\rightmark}}

(sorry, I guess this is the old fancyheader syntax, bur it works with fancyhdr).
To get the page number aligned with the bottom line, \parbox[b]{...


-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re[6]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Greetings, Jean-Pierre.

You wrote on Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 5:51:43 PM:

Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

 Encapsulate the running header commands \leftmark and \rightmark
 in a parbox, e.g. with fancyplain pagstyle,
 to have the long titles extend to half the textwidth:
 \rhead[\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\leftmark}}]{\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}}
 \lhead[\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}]{\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\rightmark}}

 (sorry, I guess this is the old fancyheader syntax, bur it works with 
 fancyhdr).
 To get the page number aligned with the bottom line, \parbox[b]{...

Thanks a lot, Jean-Pierre, I'll try it out!

-- 
Best Regards,
Andrei Popov



Limit conditions (math)

2005-05-11 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
Hi
I am trying to get a limit equation to work in lyx but am not sure how to 
proceed.  I need the following

lim
z-10
I can get the lim but dont know how to put the conditions of that limit 
underneath it without going onto a second line.  ANyone had any experience 
of this before

Geoff


Re: Limit conditions (math)

2005-05-11 Thread Paul Smith
On 5/11/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to get a limit equation to work in lyx but am not sure how to
 proceed.  I need the following
 
 lim
 z-10
 
 I can get the lim but dont know how to put the conditions of that limit
 underneath it without going onto a second line.  ANyone had any experience
 of this before

Geoffrey: after writing lim, 

shift+_

or, maybe you are wanting:

write \displaystyle and then the lim as usual.

This should do what you are wanting.

Paul


Re: Selecting typefaces for ancient Greek?

2005-05-11 Thread Luis Rivera
Hi,

cbgreek by Claudio Beccari is the default option for babel; however, it
uses bitmapped fonts by default, and when it comes to outlined fonts it
is rather large (over 70 Mb); Alexej Kryukov assembled the cm-lgc
package (in CTAN:/fonts/ps-type1), which does a pretty good job at
substitution of T1 (Latin), LGR (Greek) and T2 (Cyrillic) fonts in
about 13Mb; however, depending on how you want to enter the text in
LyX, you might try ibycus-babel, which has its own set of fonts, some
of them outlined.  Assuming you're using the default Beccari encoding,
try \usepackage{cm-lgc} after downloading it.  It is pretty small and
straightforward...

Personally, I find the ibycus package quite satisfactory, specially
because it uses something close to Beta encoding (TLG or Perseus texts)
without messing with LaTeX backslashes; both cm-lgc and ibycus are pfb
based, meaning that they are not bitmapped.

Cheers,

Luis


J.L.Rivera
Universidad Panamericana
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behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jane McKean
Martin:

 ok - i cleared the preamble and tracking changes works. however, i
 observe strange behavior:

 1) i generated a new document, entered some text, enabled tracking changes, 
 and 
 addied some more text and deleted some. this shows nicely in lyx. hoever, in 
 dvi it shows in black  white only. in postscript it shows in colors, but 
 there 
 is no vertical bars in the margin.
 
 2) using tracking changes with my paper. i cleared the preamble (as
 first stated). tracking changed shows well in lyx, but not at all in
 dvi. it does show in postscript, but still no vertical bars in the margins.
 
 
 ideas?
 
 martin

To see the vertical change bars in my PDFs, I have to adjust the margins. In my 
docs I set 
the outer margins to 2.75 in. (Layout  Document  Margins). I set them back to 
1.75 for my
final PDFs. 

Yes, it is annoying that accepting all the changes bounces you to the end of 
the doc, but it's
something I found I can live with. Deleting a space will only show up as the 
vertical change bar,
which is probably being displayed outside of your page margins now. 

Hope this helps. I have found the change bars to be very helpful in our 
documentation production 
cycle (I wouldn't be able to use LyX for our doc tool without them) and I'm 
anxious to see 
the 1.4 change bar feature. 

Thank LyX team!
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Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread John Levon
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 10:14:14AM -0700, Jane McKean wrote:

 Yes, it is annoying that accepting all the changes bounces you to the
 end of the doc, but it's something I found I can live with.

It is still a bug though; if it's not filed already, it should be.

regards
john


Re: OS X Tigger

2005-05-11 Thread Chris Menzel
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:09:15AM +0800, Rob Davies wrote:
 Do let us know if there is an incompatibility there.
 
 
 There is an incompatibility there! :-)  The 10.3 wiki instructions
 fail for 10.4; setting the LyX Spellchecker pref to aspell and then
 doing a spellcheck brings up the error msg:
 
 It is not an incompatibility, because it is not installed.

Ah, but it is!

   Error: The file /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english can not be  
  opened for reading.
 
 There is no such file, or subdir, as english in
 /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60.  (Nor is there, for that matter, any such
 file in the aspell-0.60 distribution on my FreeBSD box -- which
 suggests perhaps aspell is not being called correctly within LyX?)
 I've tried setting numerous symlinks therein to dictionary files and
 such that  are residing in /Library/Application
 Support/cocoAspell/aspell6- en-6.0-0 to no avail (all of which
 returned an error msg to the effect that the  file I tried linking to
 was in the wrong format).  aspell works just fine from the command
 line, btw.
 
 If you have installed cocoAspell 2.? then you will not need the link  
 as it already does this for you.

I have installed cocoAspell 2.0.1, and there is no such link (unless
perhaps I'm not understanding what this in it already does this for
you).

 What you need to do is follow the link to the dictionaries on  
 cocoAspell site and download aspell6-en-6.0-0.tar.bz2. Decompress and  
 place folder in /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell this places  
 it where OS X Tigger looks for it then go into your System  
 Preferences and select dictionaries. 

The package install program does all of this for you.  (Just to be sure,
I went and grabbed the file in question and unzipped it.  It is exactly
what I find in /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0.)

 Now try LyX if it works congrats if not then their is another trick.  
 Copy  the file you downloaded from the one you placed in cocoAspell  
 using command line tool (Terminal) go to where folder is and type  
 executing with the return key after each command.
 
 ./configure
 make
 make install
 
 This installs the dictionary in the actual Aspell folder at /usr/ 
 local/lib/aspell-0.60 

It was already there.

 and LyX should work with this dictionary now.

Blimey, must have been a permissions thing, as the content of the two
relevant dirs appears not to have changed, but this did the trick!
Something must be just a bit wonky with the cocoAspell package
installer.

Much obliged!

-chris



Re: lyx in spanish?

2005-05-11 Thread Luis Rivera
Hello,
Marcelo Acuf1a [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Perhaps qt lib is not guilty of dead keys.
 

as for the keyboard issues, I can say nothing (I use Ruurd's QtLyX on Win32, 
and the keyboard switch works fine.  Thank you, Ruurd!)...

As for the hyphenation,

 *** Hyphenation no work
 
 In log file of latex I can see that module of spanish hyphenation not was 
loaded for latex. In accordance with
 advices I edited 
 
 /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat
 
 and then
 
 run iniTeX
 
 and several others actions along several weeks, none of this work.
 

LyX uses LaTeX in the background, as far as I know; and the package babel takes 
care of language management, so you MUST get acquainted with many forks and 
dead ends of babel, if you want to typeset real polyglot.

Having said that, the advice was sound: you change the language declaration in 
texmf:/tex/generic/config/language.dat, and then you recompile the formats.  
This should take care of loading the hyphenation patterns.  Then you specify 
the languages you use in your document either in \documentclass[langs]
{class} or \usepackage[langs]{babel} and switch languages according to 
babel's conventions (\foreignlanguage, \setlanguage, etc).  All of this happens 
at LaTeX level; I don't use spellchecking: I trust my Liberal Arts 
education... :)

 *** 
 
 Other problems remains:
 
 1) When I invoke Find  Replace I can't to type accented characters or  
equals to the used for lyx in the text.
 This characters look equals but are differents in code.
 
 2) I defined double quoted and I can't to type this in Find  Replace.
 
 3) When I include Chapter* in TOC with ERT: \addcontents ... a point appears 
in the left of the entry. This not
 occur in english.
 
 4) I have an hybrid style. After itemizes, tables, fig, etc. next paragraph 
is not indented. After title of
 section the paragraph get indentation. I need modify a lot of paragraph for 
get coherence.
 

Apparently, it all depends on the encoding of the text you're entering.  If the 
system is using something awkward in an awkward way, you can neither enter 
accented characters nor search/replace them.  So in some way it's not LyX's 
fault (I have no problem at all with accents on Win32); but SUSE's settings.

PS.  I am NOT promoting the boot sector virus commonly called Windows; it's 
my school's fault, not mine, that I don't use a true operating system.  Please 
send no flame in this direction... :)



Re: lyx in spanish?

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 00:36, Marcelo Acuf1a wrote:
 1) When I invoke Find  Replace I can't to type accented characters or 
 equals to the used for lyx in the text. This characters look equals but
 are differents in code.

  True, if you are using a utf-8 locale the characters inserted inside any 
widget (Is this the right name?), with the single exception of the main 
canvas, are not converted to the document encoding but remain utf-8.

  This is certainly a more general problem I am describing what I have seen 
before. :-) And no I didn't remember to add this report to bugzilla or to 
search it there.

-- 
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Re: Limit conditions (math)

2005-05-11 Thread Hannan Sadar
Hi,

You could do:
\lim Space Shift _ z-10 Space
One Move with your Left arrow and then press
Alt m - l ( This will move z-10 under the lim)

This will also help with \sum

Hope it helps

Hannan

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

 Hi

 I am trying to get a limit equation to work in lyx but am not sure how
 to proceed.  I need the following

 lim
 z-10

 I can get the lim but dont know how to put the conditions of that
 limit underneath it without going onto a second line.  ANyone had any
 experience of this before


 Geoff




Re: lyx in spanish?

2005-05-11 Thread Luis Rivera
Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 On Tuesday 10 May 2005 00:36, Marcelo Acuf1a wrote:
  1) When I invoke Find  Replace I can't to type accented characters or 
  equals to the used for lyx in the text. This characters look equals but
  are differents in code.
 
   True, if you are using a utf-8 locale the characters inserted inside any 
 widget (Is this the right name?), with the single exception of the main 
 canvas, are not converted to the document encoding but remain utf-8.
 

OK. So it might be that LyX is using some encoding at file storage level and 
something else at display level. People sometimes run into this trouble in 
Win#@ too: they enter (unknowingly, of course) utf text in some version of 
W*rd, and they get white squares at another...

The solution is to use the same encoding consistently in both system file 
storage and application.  If you set the locale (or whatever input device you 
are using) to use ISO-8859-1 (Latin 1) for display, and set \usepackage[latin1]
{inputenc} in the preamble of your LyX/LaTeX file, you should get something 
close to what you want: the characters on screen are those stored in file.  I 
do something like this to fix some odd-encoded files in Win#@, and it works...





Online bibtex-ressources (for social science)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
Is is possible to lookup literature on some online ressource (e.g. Amazon) and 
get ready made bibtex entries, so you don't have to type it in by hand? Is 
there a bibtex manager that can do this kind of lookup?

Janus

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Re: lyx in spanish?

2005-05-11 Thread Matej Cepl
Luis Rivera scripsit:
 OK. So it might be that LyX is using some encoding at file storage level
 and something else at display level. People sometimes run into this
 trouble in Win#@ too: they enter (unknowingly, of course) utf text in some
 version of W*rd, and they get white squares at another...

I think that this will be only resolved when we switch to XML and
(therefore?) UTF-8. I know that UTF-8 is not mandatory for XML, but it
seems to me that switch to XML would be so big, that Unicodization would be
trivial in comparison (and it would be really helpful if in future LyX
would go towards KDEization -- do I understand it correctly that you have
to be Unicodized in order to be KDE?). The fact that couple of people
mentioned acronyms like DTD in the last couple of days seems to be hopeful
(of course, I do not hope for anything earlier than 1.5, but still it is
better than nothing).

Matej

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Re: Online bibtex-ressources (for social science)

2005-05-11 Thread Justin Walker
On May 11, 2005, at 12:18, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
Is is possible to lookup literature on some online ressource (e.g. 
Amazon) and
get ready made bibtex entries, so you don't have to type it in by 
hand? Is
there a bibtex manager that can do this kind of lookup?
My knowledge is limited, but for Mac OS X, there is at least one 
program, Books http://books.aetherial.net, that will do something 
like you want.  You can give it an ISBN number, and it will populate a 
database with info from, e.g., Amazon or LoC.  Then you can export it 
as a bibtex entry.

HTH.
Regards,
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Re: Online bibtex-ressources (for social science)

2005-05-11 Thread Stefano Franchi
BibDesk, another BibTeX manager for MacOs X, has some scripts that 
allow searching and importing references from online resources like 
Amazon or RedLightGreen books. It is an open source program and it's 
under constant  development. Quite possibly the most refined BibTex 
manager around. More info at:
http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/

Best,
Stefano
On May 11, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
Is is possible to lookup literature on some online ressource (e.g. 
Amazon) and
get ready made bibtex entries, so you don't have to type it in by 
hand? Is
there a bibtex manager that can do this kind of lookup?

Janus
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Re: OS X Tigger

2005-05-11 Thread Marc J. Driftmeyer
Okay.  I just decided to install LyX-Qt on Tiger since I'm also  
installing KDE 3.4 via Fink.

Downloaded the tgz for LyX, extracted it.
Downloaded the cocoaAspell 2.0.1.  installed it.
Installed the LyX pkg.
Ran spell check which promptly gave the error in my Fink distribution  
that aspell-en is missing.

Run Fink Commander.  Aspell by default installs everything but your  
language specific options.

Selected aspell-en and installed from source.
Ran F7 to spell check and the Inspector showed up as expected and off  
to spell check land I go.

This is very simple.  Aspell-en or your language of choice needs to  
have a note via Fink that it needs to later be installed for one's  
localization specific needs.

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On May 11, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Chris Menzel wrote:
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:09:15AM +0800, Rob Davies wrote:
Do let us know if there is an incompatibility there.

There is an incompatibility there! :-)  The 10.3 wiki instructions
fail for 10.4; setting the LyX Spellchecker pref to aspell and  
then
doing a spellcheck brings up the error msg:

It is not an incompatibility, because it is not installed.
Ah, but it is!

 Error: The file /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english can not be
opened for reading.
There is no such file, or subdir, as english in
/usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60.  (Nor is there, for that matter, any  
such
file in the aspell-0.60 distribution on my FreeBSD box -- which
suggests perhaps aspell is not being called correctly within LyX?)
I've tried setting numerous symlinks therein to dictionary files and
such that  are residing in /Library/Application
Support/cocoAspell/aspell6- en-6.0-0 to no avail (all of which
returned an error msg to the effect that the  file I tried  
linking to
was in the wrong format).  aspell works just fine from the command
line, btw.

If you have installed cocoAspell 2.? then you will not need the link
as it already does this for you.
I have installed cocoAspell 2.0.1, and there is no such link (unless
perhaps I'm not understanding what this in it already does this for
you).

What you need to do is follow the link to the dictionaries on
cocoAspell site and download aspell6-en-6.0-0.tar.bz2. Decompress and
place folder in /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell this places
it where OS X Tigger looks for it then go into your System
Preferences and select dictionaries.
The package install program does all of this for you.  (Just to be  
sure,
I went and grabbed the file in question and unzipped it.  It is  
exactly
what I find in /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6- 
en-6.0-0.)


Now try LyX if it works congrats if not then their is another trick.
Copy  the file you downloaded from the one you placed in cocoAspell
using command line tool (Terminal) go to where folder is and type
executing with the return key after each command.
./configure
make
make install
This installs the dictionary in the actual Aspell folder at /usr/
local/lib/aspell-0.60
It was already there.

and LyX should work with this dictionary now.
Blimey, must have been a permissions thing, as the content of the two
relevant dirs appears not to have changed, but this did the trick!
Something must be just a bit wonky with the cocoAspell package
installer.
Much obliged!
-chris




Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 12:20, Tim Michelsen wrote:

 The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over.
 He works on TeXniccenter. :-(  But a major drawback - as stated in my
 initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies)
 including citation inside footnotes and outside.

Subscribe! I am also looking very much forward to this possibility since I 
prefer citations in footnotes over those in (brackets) in the text - and it 
sounds as if JuraBib is just the think for people like me. So far I am 
manageing by a pragmatic solution: inserting my bib-references in footnotes 
created manually. Maybe your colleague could do the same?

 All citations should be 
 able to have a see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes.

What do you mean by a see-option?

Janus

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\nocite{*} changes bibliography style (when using natbib)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
Hi there,

I would like to show all (or additional) literature from my bib-file in the 
bibliography, and not just the literature I am citing. I have tried to follow 
the advise at:

http://www.texnik.de//bibtex/bibtex.phtml#cite*

by inserting \nocite{*} as ERT in my LyX document. But this changes the look 
of my bibliography from apalike - author (year) title - to a numerical 
notation.

I am using NatBib with the autor-year option.
Style: apalike.
LyX 1.3.4 on Linux

What am I doing wrong? How do I ask NatBib to add literature to the 
bibliopraphy that is not citet?

Janus

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Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-11 Thread Meri Williams
Followup on my problem from before:

I still haven't managed to fix it so the NatBib and apalike Bib style
work happily together. I've changed to an alternative style (simple
natbib essentially) and it seems to work OK. Because this works fine,
I assume that it is something weird about the apalike style once you
get to more than 30 citations, or to having more than a couple of
articles by the same author.

Hope that reassures anyone who's stressed about it happening to THEIR thesis ;-)

Still very little clue about how to fix the original problem, but I
think it needs someone with more LyX/LaTeX knowledge than me and the
time to look (my diss is due in 4 days!!)

Thanks
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Re: OS X Tigger

2005-05-11 Thread Rob Davies
Morning,

./configure
make
make install
This installs the dictionary in the actual Aspell folder at /usr/
local/lib/aspell-0.60
It was already there.
Yes, the folder is their, but the compiled library is not hence the  
English that LyX is searching for it is also the process that Tigger  
goes through when you place dictionary in cocoAspell.

So, the compile is what will trigger the library to be usable!
Cheers!
Rob Davies
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Just take your applications and stick them in and see if they run  
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Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Martin A. Hansen
more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):

when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
things?

disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem, but
irritating.


what is the correct place to report these findings?



martin


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
> 
> when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
> newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
> things?
> 
> disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
> but irritating.
> 
> 
> what is the correct place to report these findings?

Here I guess, although not many people actually know this bit of the code.

One person you might contact is Jane McKean who's email is on the wiki 
page. She uses this thing a lot and will no doubt be able to help with the 
user experience.

-- 
Angus



Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Martin A. Hansen
i am collecting user experience, and there do seem to be some features
and some minor bugs around.

e.g. inserting whitespace does not show in track changes. so if i
correct moonrocket to moon rocket, it doent show.



martin




On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 10:37:21AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Martin A. Hansen wrote:
> 
> > more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
> > 
> > when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
> > newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
> > things?
> > 
> > disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
> > but irritating.
> > 
> > 
> > what is the correct place to report these findings?
> 
> Here I guess, although not many people actually know this bit of the code.
> 
> One person you might contact is Jane McKean who's email is on the wiki 
> page. She uses this thing a lot and will no doubt be able to help with the 
> user experience.
> 
> -- 
> Angus


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> more strange beviours of changebars (track changes):
> 
> when i enable track changes to a document i opened, i cannot delete a
> newline merging two paragraphs. that is perhaps the working order of
> things?
> 
> disabling track changes jumps to the end of the document. minor problem,
> but irritating.
> 
> 
> what is the correct place to report these findings?

The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development version,
some problems are still there.

You could file bug reports to http://www.bugzilla.lyx.org, then we can check
whether the problem also exists in the official (1.4) code.

Jürgen




Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
> maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development version,
> some problems are still there.

Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted 
correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?

> You could file bug reports to http://www.bugzilla.lyx.org, then we can
> check whether the problem also exists in the official (1.4) code.
> 
> Jürgen

-- 
Angus



Re: question: no font-slant function?

2005-05-11 Thread G. Milde
On 10.05.05, Serge Winitzki wrote:
> 
> I am toying now with the idea of a "LyX chat" application where two
> instances of LyX will be connected via pipes/TCP and both users will be
> able to simultaneously edit a single LyX document in real time.
> 
...
> the idea seems simple enough for a quick Python script, based on the
> Python client class for the LyX server (which I found on the LyX wiki
> site).

I am glad to hear that the python LyX package finds a use (beyond my own).
This strengthens my belief that the lyx server has a great potential for
user-provided extensions to lyx, if only the interface is easy to handle...

Currently I am finishing tests on the next version -- be warned that the
package is still in experimental state, so that the API can change.

BTW: Currently, there is a potential name clash between the LyX package and
LyX.py included by lyx2lyx.

José, what do you think about a generic "LyX" python package including
ly2lyx (and friends), lyxclient (and friends) and maybe more (e.g.
lyxchat)? (This would need some more thoughts about the right place of
the files and incorporating with the python path.)

Guenter


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Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 10:59, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> > The problem is that tracking changes in 1.3.x is not (officially)
> > maintained. Some problems have been fixed in the 1.4 development
> > version, some problems are still there.
>
> Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted
> correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?

  I have a vague memory that it is. I think that we should warn 1.3.x change 
tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change tracking from 
1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't exists. I don't know 
where to put this warning...

-- 
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Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Jose' Matos wrote:
>> Incidentally, Jürgen, will a change-tracked 1.3.x file be converted
>> correctly by lyx2lyx to a 1.4.x file?
> 
> I have a vague memory that it is. I think that we should warn 1.3.x
> change tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change tracking from
> 1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't exists. I don't know
> where to put this warning...

Why not make it an 'optional' revert?

lyx2lyx -to 221 --revert-change-tracking ...

else emit a warning when change-tracking code is found.

-- 
Angus



Re: question: no font-slant function?

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 11:12, G. Milde wrote:
> On 10.05.05, Serge Winitzki wrote:
...
> > the idea seems simple enough for a quick Python script, based on the
> > Python client class for the LyX server (which I found on the LyX wiki
> > site).
>
> I am glad to hear that the python LyX package finds a use (beyond my
> own). This strengthens my belief that the lyx server has a great
> potential for user-provided extensions to lyx, if only the interface is
> easy to handle...
>
> Currently I am finishing tests on the next version -- be warned that the
> package is still in experimental state, so that the API can change.
>
> BTW: Currently, there is a potential name clash between the LyX package
> and LyX.py included by lyx2lyx.
>
> José, what do you think about a generic "LyX" python package including
> ly2lyx (and friends), lyxclient (and friends) and maybe more (e.g.
> lyxchat)?

  I couldn't be happier... ;-)

> (This would need some more thoughts about the right place of 
> the files and incorporating with the python path.)

  That was also my thought. :-)
  One idea would be to transform LyX into a package instead of it being a 
module.

  Notice that we already have other scripts in python to generate the TOC 
for the lyx documentation that use LyX.pm, this is for 1.4.x where we 
replaced the previous perl scripts. Since these scripts are inside doc I 
use the path.modules to load the right one.

> Guenter

-- 
José Abílio


Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 11:17, Angus Leeming wrote:
> I think that we should warn 1.3.x
>
> > change tracking users that the lyx2lyx doesn't revert the change
> > tracking from 1.4.x to 1.3.x since officially that support doesn't
> > exists. I don't know where to put this warning...
>
> Why not make it an 'optional' revert?
>
> lyx2lyx -to 221 --revert-change-tracking ...
>
> else emit a warning when change-tracking code is found.

I opened a bug report so that it is not forgoten as I don't have time now to 
work on it. I added also your suggestion.

Bug #1880

-- 
José Abílio


indent first paragraph

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello All.

I need to typeset a Russian book, whose conventions demand that I
indent each and every paragraph, including those after a section, etc.

I tried \usepackage{indentfirst} in the preamble, but that still does
NOT indent paragraphs coming after an enumeration or a bulleted list.

Is _complete_ first paragraph indentation possible automatically? I
mean without manually inserting the appropriate ERTs before
paragraphs?

Any help is appreciated.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello All.

I have a book with several long chapter titles that take more than one
line,  and  I fixed the problem of them titles going beyond the margin
in  TOC  by  allowing hyperref breaks in the hyperref package, which I
happen to use.

However, since the book class uses headings on every page by default
(which I like), those several long chapter titles end up going beyond
the page margin in the headings too, which is ugly.

Moreover, when I insert a manual line break in the actual chapter
titles, this break is not showing in the headings, which is outright
wrong.

Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
layout.

Thanks.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Andrei Popov writes:
> However, since the book class uses headings on every page by default
> (which I like), those several long chapter titles end up going beyond
> the page margin in the headings too, which is ugly.
>
> Moreover, when I insert a manual line break in the actual chapter
> titles, this break is not showing in the headings, which is outright
> wrong.
>
> Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
> headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
> layout.

A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the "Short 
Title" option under the Insert menu?

-K

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations


Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello Kevin,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:44:13 PM, you wrote:

>> Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
>> headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
>> layout.

> A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the "Short
> Title" option under the Insert menu?

This is not an option, unfortunately.

I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.

I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread samar
Hello Kevin,
Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:44:13 PM, you wrote:
Does  anyone  know of a way to enable line breaks in chapter-dependant
headings?  I would really like to keep the default book class page
layout.

A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the "Short
Title" option under the Insert menu?
This is not an option, unfortunately.
I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.
I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.
--
WBR,
Andrei Popov
Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux
Does that not mean that you  have little choice other than to reduce the 
size of text in the headings which is possible.

samar





Re: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

>>Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:19:22 +0300
>>From: Andrei Popov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
>>Subject: Re[2]: reallly long titles in page headings
>>
>>Hello Kevin,

>>> A perhaps wrong answer to the wrong question, but what about the "Short
>>> Title" option under the Insert menu?
>>
>>This is not an option, unfortunately.
>>
>>I NEED to keep the titles as is (i.e. long). I am able to insert a
>>line break in a chapter title, and allow line breaks in TOC.
>>
>>I'm really hoping it's also possible for the headers.

I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox with limited 
width,
latex will format your headings in multiple lines to fit.
Of course,the height of the area in the page layout must be enough to cope with 
this.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Hello Jean-Pierre,

Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 4:34:59 PM, you wrote:

> I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox
> with limited width, latex will format your headings in multiple
> lines to fit. Of course,the height of the area in the page layout
> must be enough to cope with this.

Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

Thanks again.

-- 
WBR,
Andrei Popov

Using LyX 1.3.4 on Linux



Re: Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

>>Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:12:29 +0300
>>From: Andrei Popov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
>>Subject: Re[4]: reallly long titles in page headings
>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 14:12:29.0401 (UTC) 
>>FILETIME=[77413490:01C55633]
>>
>>Hello Jean-Pierre,
>>
>>Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 4:34:59 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>> I guess you may redefine the running headers to print in a parbox
>>> with limited width, latex will format your headings in multiple
>>> lines to fit. Of course,the height of the area in the page layout
>>> must be enough to cope with this.
>>
>>Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
>>could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

Encapsulate the running header commands \leftmark and \rightmark in a parbox, 
e.g. with fancyplain pagstyle,
to have the long titles extend to half the textwidth:
\rhead[\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\leftmark}}]{\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}}
\lhead[\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}]{\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\rightmark}}

(sorry, I guess this is the old fancyheader syntax, bur it works with fancyhdr).
To get the page number aligned with the bottom line, \parbox[b]{...


-- 
Jean-Pierre



Re[6]: reallly long titles in page headings

2005-05-11 Thread Andrei Popov
Greetings, Jean-Pierre.

You wrote on Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 5:51:43 PM:

>>>Thanks, Jean-Pierre, that sounds like a good solution to me. Maybe you
>>>could point me to a HOWTO or smth on how to do that?

> Encapsulate the running header commands \leftmark and \rightmark
> in a parbox, e.g. with fancyplain pagstyle,
> to have the long titles extend to half the textwidth:
> \rhead[\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\leftmark}}]{\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}}
> \lhead[\fancyplain{\rm\thepage}{\rm\thepage}]{\fancyplain{}{\parbox[t]{0.5\textwidth}{\rightmark}}

> (sorry, I guess this is the old fancyheader syntax, bur it works with 
> fancyhdr).
> To get the page number aligned with the bottom line, \parbox[b]{...

Thanks a lot, Jean-Pierre, I'll try it out!

-- 
Best Regards,
Andrei Popov



Limit conditions (math)

2005-05-11 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
Hi
I am trying to get a limit equation to work in lyx but am not sure how to 
proceed.  I need the following

lim
z-10
I can get the lim but dont know how to put the conditions of that limit 
underneath it without going onto a second line.  ANyone had any experience 
of this before

Geoff


Re: Limit conditions (math)

2005-05-11 Thread Paul Smith
On 5/11/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to get a limit equation to work in lyx but am not sure how to
> proceed.  I need the following
> 
> lim
> z-10
> 
> I can get the lim but dont know how to put the conditions of that limit
> underneath it without going onto a second line.  ANyone had any experience
> of this before

Geoffrey: after writing lim, 

shift+_

or, maybe you are wanting:

write \displaystyle and then the lim as usual.

This should do what you are wanting.

Paul


Re: Selecting typefaces for ancient Greek?

2005-05-11 Thread Luis Rivera
Hi,

cbgreek by Claudio Beccari is the default option for babel; however, it
uses bitmapped fonts by default, and when it comes to outlined fonts it
is rather large (over 70 Mb); Alexej Kryukov assembled the cm-lgc
package (in CTAN:/fonts/ps-type1), which does a pretty good job at
substitution of T1 (Latin), LGR (Greek) and T2 (Cyrillic) fonts in
about 13Mb; however, depending on how you want to enter the text in
LyX, you might try ibycus-babel, which has its own set of fonts, some
of them outlined.  Assuming you're using the default Beccari encoding,
try \usepackage{cm-lgc} after downloading it.  It is pretty small and
straightforward...

Personally, I find the ibycus package quite satisfactory, specially
because it uses something close to Beta encoding (TLG or Perseus texts)
without messing with LaTeX backslashes; both cm-lgc and ibycus are pfb
based, meaning that they are not bitmapped.

Cheers,

Luis


J.L.Rivera
Universidad Panamericana
Facultad de Filosofia
Departamento de Estudios Libres
03920 Mexico DF

"The work of the philosopher consists in assembling reminders for a particular 
purpose."-- Ludwig Wittgenstein.




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behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread Jane McKean
Martin:

> ok - i cleared the preamble and tracking changes works. however, i
> observe strange behavior:

> 1) i generated a new document, entered some text, enabled tracking changes, 
> and 
> addied some more text and deleted some. this shows nicely in lyx. hoever, in 
> dvi it shows in black & white only. in postscript it shows in colors, but 
> there 
> is no vertical bars in the margin.
> 
> 2) using tracking changes with my paper. i cleared the preamble (as
> first stated). tracking changed shows well in lyx, but not at all in
> dvi. it does show in postscript, but still no vertical bars in the margins.
> 
> 
> ideas?
> 
> martin

To see the vertical change bars in my PDFs, I have to adjust the margins. In my 
docs I set 
the outer margins to 2.75 in. (Layout > Document > Margins). I set them back to 
1.75 for my
final PDFs. 

Yes, it is annoying that accepting all the changes bounces you to the end of 
the doc, but it's
something I found I can live with. Deleting a space will only show up as the 
vertical change bar,
which is probably being displayed outside of your page margins now. 

Hope this helps. I have found the change bars to be very helpful in our 
documentation production 
cycle (I wouldn't be able to use LyX for our doc tool without them) and I'm 
anxious to see 
the 1.4 change bar feature. 

Thank LyX team!
--jane
-- 
Jane McKean
Technical Documentation
PathScale, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: behaviour of changebars (tracking changes)

2005-05-11 Thread John Levon
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 10:14:14AM -0700, Jane McKean wrote:

> Yes, it is annoying that accepting all the changes bounces you to the
> end of the doc, but it's something I found I can live with.

It is still a bug though; if it's not filed already, it should be.

regards
john


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