Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-28 Thread David Hewitt


Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 
 And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
 gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert - Short Title here.  I'm 
 sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
 someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
 is a job requirement.)
 

Well cr*p, does this mean I need to practice being oblivious at work as well
as at home?

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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-28 Thread Paul A. Rubin

David Hewitt wrote:


Paul A. Rubin wrote:
And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert - Short Title here.  I'm 
sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
is a job requirement.)




Well cr*p, does this mean I need to practice being oblivious at work as well
as at home?



If you need to practice, you obviously haven't been a professor for long.

/Paul



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-28 Thread David Hewitt


Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 
 And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
 gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert - Short Title here.  I'm 
 sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
 someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
 is a job requirement.)
 

Well cr*p, does this mean I need to practice being oblivious at work as well
as at home?

-
David Hewitt
Virginia Institute of Marine Science
http://www.vims.edu/fish/students/dhewitt/
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-28 Thread Paul A. Rubin

David Hewitt wrote:


Paul A. Rubin wrote:
And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert - Short Title here.  I'm 
sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
is a job requirement.)




Well cr*p, does this mean I need to practice being oblivious at work as well
as at home?



If you need to practice, you obviously haven't been a professor for long.

/Paul



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-28 Thread David Hewitt


Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> 
> And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
> gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert -> Short Title here.  I'm 
> sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
> someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
> is a job requirement.)
> 

Well cr*p, does this mean I need to practice being oblivious at work as well
as at home?

-
David Hewitt
Virginia Institute of Marine Science
http://www.vims.edu/fish/students/dhewitt/
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-28 Thread Paul A. Rubin

David Hewitt wrote:


Paul A. Rubin wrote:
And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert -> Short Title here.  I'm 
sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
is a job requirement.)




Well cr*p, does this mean I need to practice being oblivious at work as well
as at home?



If you need to practice, you obviously haven't been a professor for long.

/Paul



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi John,
Thanks very much for your quick response.

Happy LyXing

Hellmut

John O'Gorman schrieb:
...
Attached is my LyX presentation. 
This is very simple because I use it, not in full screen mode, but in a

window with at least one other window open running LyX. I jump between
the windows demonstrating the features in LyX as I go.

...

Hellmut

--
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Neal Becker
David Hewitt wrote:
 
 It sure seems like a good idea to me. The Beamer products are very
 impressive and clean, and IMO anything is better than another dull PPT
 presentation with Comic Sans text. I intended to start working on this a
 few days from now for a presentation of my own, but knowing nothing I went
 and checked the Wiki. This helped:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Beamer
 
Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show up
as opt?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}

I'm using lyx-1.5.3, but I don't see any way to do this.



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Neal Becker wrote:


Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show up
as opt?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}

I'm using lyx-1.5.3, but I don't see any way to do this.



Menus: Insert - Short Title;
Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).

The Short Title entry is not fully descriptive -- this inserts an 
optional argument anywhere the layout supports one, not just short 
titles (although that happens to be the example you chose).  Note, 
though, that Beamer may let you put optional arguments in some places 
that the layout file does not support (Insert-Short Title does not 
function, optional-insert returns command disabled in the status 
line), and the layout may let you put optional-inserts in places that 
won't do you any good.  If you look at a slide in the Brainlab 
presentation with bullet items, you'll note that the author put the 
frame display options ([1-] etc.) in ERT.  Until recently, 
optional-insert didn't work in bullets; I just checked, and it is now 
enabled in itemizations, but the optional argument apparently affects 
the list and not the individual item, and in any event it won't do what 
you want in this context (determine when a bullet is displayed).  So 
you'll need to use ERT to put some options in, and Short 
Title/optional-insert for some.


/Paul



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Neal Becker
Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Neal Becker wrote:
 
 Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show
 up
 as opt?  For example:
 \title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}
 
 
 Menus: Insert - Short Title;
 Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).
 [...]

Thanks.  This makes me wonder what else I'm missing?  I've used lyx for a
while now, and didn't know about this feature.

How does one discover these things?

If this was emacs, M-x would have tab completions, apropos, etc that would
help me discover these features.




Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Neal Becker wrote:

Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Neal Becker wrote:


Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show
up
as opt?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}


Menus: Insert - Short Title;
Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).
[...]


Thanks.  This makes me wonder what else I'm missing?  I've used lyx for a
while now, and didn't know about this feature.

How does one discover these things?

If this was emacs, M-x would have tab completions, apropos, etc that would
help me discover these features.





Most of it is covered in the documentation.  There's no equivalent to 
apropos, but you can open the help docs and do a full text search, which 
is essentially equivalent to apropos (if not quite as tidy).  I always 
start by searching Help - Table of Contents.


Then there is the wiki, which has a useful search function.  Speaking of 
functions, you might want to find the list of LFUNs on the wiki and just 
scroll through it.  This will give you an idea of what LyX knows how to 
do on command, where on command could mean a menu option or a command 
buffer entry.  You can bind LFUNs (or sequences of LFUNs -- begin with 
command-sequence) to key combinations in your .bind file of choice.


And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert - Short Title here.  I'm 
sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
is a job requirement.)


/Paul



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi John,
Thanks very much for your quick response.

Happy LyXing

Hellmut

John O'Gorman schrieb:
...
Attached is my LyX presentation. 
This is very simple because I use it, not in full screen mode, but in a

window with at least one other window open running LyX. I jump between
the windows demonstrating the features in LyX as I go.

...

Hellmut

--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Neal Becker
David Hewitt wrote:
 
 It sure seems like a good idea to me. The Beamer products are very
 impressive and clean, and IMO anything is better than another dull PPT
 presentation with Comic Sans text. I intended to start working on this a
 few days from now for a presentation of my own, but knowing nothing I went
 and checked the Wiki. This helped:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Beamer
 
Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show up
as opt?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}

I'm using lyx-1.5.3, but I don't see any way to do this.



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Neal Becker wrote:


Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show up
as opt?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}

I'm using lyx-1.5.3, but I don't see any way to do this.



Menus: Insert - Short Title;
Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).

The Short Title entry is not fully descriptive -- this inserts an 
optional argument anywhere the layout supports one, not just short 
titles (although that happens to be the example you chose).  Note, 
though, that Beamer may let you put optional arguments in some places 
that the layout file does not support (Insert-Short Title does not 
function, optional-insert returns command disabled in the status 
line), and the layout may let you put optional-inserts in places that 
won't do you any good.  If you look at a slide in the Brainlab 
presentation with bullet items, you'll note that the author put the 
frame display options ([1-] etc.) in ERT.  Until recently, 
optional-insert didn't work in bullets; I just checked, and it is now 
enabled in itemizations, but the optional argument apparently affects 
the list and not the individual item, and in any event it won't do what 
you want in this context (determine when a bullet is displayed).  So 
you'll need to use ERT to put some options in, and Short 
Title/optional-insert for some.


/Paul



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Neal Becker
Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Neal Becker wrote:
 
 Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show
 up
 as opt?  For example:
 \title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}
 
 
 Menus: Insert - Short Title;
 Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).
 [...]

Thanks.  This makes me wonder what else I'm missing?  I've used lyx for a
while now, and didn't know about this feature.

How does one discover these things?

If this was emacs, M-x would have tab completions, apropos, etc that would
help me discover these features.




Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Neal Becker wrote:

Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Neal Becker wrote:


Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show
up
as opt?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}


Menus: Insert - Short Title;
Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).
[...]


Thanks.  This makes me wonder what else I'm missing?  I've used lyx for a
while now, and didn't know about this feature.

How does one discover these things?

If this was emacs, M-x would have tab completions, apropos, etc that would
help me discover these features.





Most of it is covered in the documentation.  There's no equivalent to 
apropos, but you can open the help docs and do a full text search, which 
is essentially equivalent to apropos (if not quite as tidy).  I always 
start by searching Help - Table of Contents.


Then there is the wiki, which has a useful search function.  Speaking of 
functions, you might want to find the list of LFUNs on the wiki and just 
scroll through it.  This will give you an idea of what LyX knows how to 
do on command, where on command could mean a menu option or a command 
buffer entry.  You can bind LFUNs (or sequences of LFUNs -- begin with 
command-sequence) to key combinations in your .bind file of choice.


And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert - Short Title here.  I'm 
sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
is a job requirement.)


/Paul



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi John,
Thanks very much for your quick response.

Happy LyXing

Hellmut

John O'Gorman schrieb:
...
Attached is my LyX presentation. 
This is very simple because I use it, not in full screen mode, but in a

window with at least one other window open running LyX. I jump between
the windows demonstrating the features in LyX as I go.

...

Hellmut

--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Neal Becker
David Hewitt wrote:
 
> It sure seems like a good idea to me. The Beamer products are very
> impressive and clean, and IMO anything is better than another dull PPT
> presentation with Comic Sans text. I intended to start working on this a
> few days from now for a presentation of my own, but knowing nothing I went
> and checked the Wiki. This helped:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Beamer
> 
Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show up
as "opt"?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}

I'm using lyx-1.5.3, but I don't see any way to do this.



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Neal Becker wrote:


Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show up
as "opt"?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}

I'm using lyx-1.5.3, but I don't see any way to do this.



Menus: Insert -> Short Title;
Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).

The "Short Title" entry is not fully descriptive -- this inserts an 
optional argument anywhere the layout supports one, not just short 
titles (although that happens to be the example you chose).  Note, 
though, that Beamer may let you put optional arguments in some places 
that the layout file does not support (Insert->Short Title does not 
function, optional-insert returns "command disabled" in the status 
line), and the layout may let you put optional-inserts in places that 
won't do you any good.  If you look at a slide in the Brainlab 
presentation with bullet items, you'll note that the author put the 
frame display options ([<1->] etc.) in ERT.  Until recently, 
optional-insert didn't work in bullets; I just checked, and it is now 
enabled in itemizations, but the optional argument apparently affects 
the list and not the individual item, and in any event it won't do what 
you want in this context (determine when a bullet is displayed).  So 
you'll need to use ERT to put some options in, and Short 
Title/optional-insert for some.


/Paul



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Neal Becker
Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> Neal Becker wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show
>> up
>> as "opt"?  For example:
>> \title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}
>> 
> 
> Menus: Insert -> Short Title;
> Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).
> [...]

Thanks.  This makes me wonder what else I'm missing?  I've used lyx for a
while now, and didn't know about this feature.

How does one discover these things?

If this was emacs, M-x would have tab completions, apropos, etc that would
help me discover these features.




Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Neal Becker wrote:

Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Neal Becker wrote:


Thanks for the example.  How did you insert the optional args that show
up
as "opt"?  For example:
\title[Brainlab]{Brainlab:}


Menus: Insert -> Short Title;
Command buffer (opened with M-x): optional-insert (and hit enter).
[...]


Thanks.  This makes me wonder what else I'm missing?  I've used lyx for a
while now, and didn't know about this feature.

How does one discover these things?

If this was emacs, M-x would have tab completions, apropos, etc that would
help me discover these features.





Most of it is covered in the documentation.  There's no equivalent to 
apropos, but you can open the help docs and do a full text search, which 
is essentially equivalent to apropos (if not quite as tidy).  I always 
start by searching Help -> Table of Contents.


Then there is the wiki, which has a useful search function.  Speaking of 
functions, you might want to find the list of LFUNs on the wiki and just 
scroll through it.  This will give you an idea of what LyX knows how to 
do on command, where "on command" could mean a menu option or a command 
buffer entry.  You can bind LFUNs (or sequences of LFUNs -- begin with 
command-sequence) to key combinations in your .bind file of choice.


And, of course, there's this group, where the sneakier stuff eventually 
gets revealed.  I first heard about Insert -> Short Title here.  I'm 
sure it's been on the menu for a while, but I never noticed it until 
someone on the list pointed it out.  (I'm a professor.  Being oblivious 
is a job requirement.)


/Paul



Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread muzzle
Hi,
I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good idea?
Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul be
a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
Goodbye,

Emme


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread obregonmateo
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 14:23, muzzle wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
 am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
 for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
 Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
 idea? Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul
 be a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
 powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
 Goodbye,

 Emme

I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a long 
while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It does take 
a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have a 
consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played 
anywhere.

Mateo.


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread David Hewitt



 I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I am
 trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited for the
 task and I went back to pure latex code.
 Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
 idea?
 Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it could be a
 very interesting improvement given the quality of the average
 powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
 

It sure seems like a good idea to me. The Beamer products are very
impressive and clean, and IMO anything is better than another dull PPT
presentation with Comic Sans text. I intended to start working on this a few
days from now for a presentation of my own, but knowing nothing I went and
checked the Wiki. This helped:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Beamer

The example by Rich Drewes is very nice, but I noticed that LaTeX looks for
what appears to be Python scripts in some frames of Section 2. Thus, for me,
the PDF or DVI production fails. The scripts look like ones Rich wrote
himself, so the compilation will likely fail for anyone that downloads it.
But, the example LyX file gives you the idea.

I'm also particularly interested in any other advice people have about
Beamer presentations via LyX. (I'm on WinXP with LyX 1.5.3.)



-
David Hewitt
Virginia Institute of Marine Science
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread David Hewitt



 I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a
 long while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It
 does take a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have
 a consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
 structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played
 anywhere.
 

Can you post a simple example to the Wiki?

-
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Virginia Institute of Marine Science
http://www.vims.edu/fish/students/dhewitt/
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Helge Hafting

David Hewitt wrote:


  

I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a
long while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It
does take a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have
a consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played

anywhere.




Can you post a simple example to the Wiki?
  

There is a template distributed with LyX. I have used that as a starting
point, and simply removed what I didn't need or want. This was
sufficient to make a couple of useful presentations. (I obviously
also added the text and figures needed. :-)

If you make presentations regularly, you should make your own
starting point template as soon as you find yourself repeating
stuff at the start of each new presentation.

As mentioned above, the consistency and structure is nice. Clicking
on a cross reference takes you there, so jumping around wildly is
possible, for example when answering questions from the audience.

You can make bullet points within a page appear one at a time if needed,
or anything else such as a series of pictures making up a cartoon.

Helge Hafting


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread John O'Gorman
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 15:23 +0100, muzzle wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
 am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
 for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
 Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good 
 idea?
 Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul be
 a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
 powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)

I use beamer for all my presentations.
It produces good quality, consistent, structured layouts and can produce
fully functional PDF files (with rather pleasant navigation icons).

It is not foolproof on my platform (SuSE and openSUSE) and not all the
supplied examples work. But if you start by finding the simplest example
file which works (or cull it until it does) then work up from there, you
will find the effort worthwhile.

I have tried others (e.g. Prosper and friends) in the past. Beamer is
better.

Recently I flirted with powerdot. It is a nightmare on the SUSE
platforms and relies on postscript for overlays, animation, etc which
then do not translate fully to PDF. Powerdot also relies on TeX packages
which are not included by default in the SUSE teTeX distributions.

If you wish, contact me separately, and I will send you sample
presentations I have made. (One of the presentations is on LyX - LaTeX
for our local Linux User Group).

regards
John O'Gorman
 Goodbye,
 
 Emme
 



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Les Denham
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, muzzle wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
 am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
 for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
 Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
 idea? Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul
 be a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
 powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
 Goodbye,

Emme,

I have used Powerdot very successfully for presentations at international 
conferences for about three years (http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Powerdot).

I have installed Powerdot from CTAN on four computers running different (but 
all up-to-date) Linux distributions, and have not yet found the default LaTeX 
installation to meet the prerequisites for Powerdot (usually the required 
version of xkeyval [2.5c] is not there).  These requirements are on page 26 
of the Powerdot manual, unobtrusively included under the heading Compiling 
your presentation.  A LyX layout is included with the CTAN download.

Overall, I think Powerdot gives much better (more professional and consistent) 
results than PowerPoint, but does not have the ease of editing, nor many of 
the bells and whistles.  I would say it is about 70% integrated into LyX.  
One point which is not emphasized in the manual is that though the final 
product is usually a PDF file, you can't get it using pdflatex -- you have to 
use ps2pdf.

-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Les Denham
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, John O'Gorman wrote:
 Recently I flirted with powerdot. It is a nightmare on the SUSE
 platforms and relies on postscript for overlays, animation, etc which
 then do not translate fully to PDF. Powerdot also relies on TeX packages
 which are not included by default in the SUSE teTeX distributions.

John,

This is a valid criticism of Powerdot.  However, I think you'll find it worth 
persevering to get it running.  One of the systems I use it on is a 64-bit 
SMT version of Suse 10.1 (and you probably wouldn't believe the extra 
incompatibilities you get with 64-bit!), and you're right -- it wants half a 
dozen pieces not included in the Suse distribution: but they're all readily 
available on CTAN, and quite easy to install (if you read the instructions -- 
it varies from package to package).

Powerdot does not work properly with pdflatex for conversion to PDF, but it 
does work properly with ps2pdf.  

I include \hypersetup{pdfpagemode=FullScreen} in the Preamble, which starts 
the presentation with a full-screen display, instead of the usual Acroread 
menu and border.  You can easily customize the layout with judicious use of 
ERT, or use one of the included styles and stick with the defaults.

-- 
Les

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Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread muzzle
Hi,
I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good idea?
Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul be
a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
Goodbye,

Emme


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread obregonmateo
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 14:23, muzzle wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
 am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
 for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
 Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
 idea? Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul
 be a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
 powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
 Goodbye,

 Emme

I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a long 
while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It does take 
a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have a 
consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played 
anywhere.

Mateo.


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread David Hewitt



 I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I am
 trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited for the
 task and I went back to pure latex code.
 Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
 idea?
 Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it could be a
 very interesting improvement given the quality of the average
 powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
 

It sure seems like a good idea to me. The Beamer products are very
impressive and clean, and IMO anything is better than another dull PPT
presentation with Comic Sans text. I intended to start working on this a few
days from now for a presentation of my own, but knowing nothing I went and
checked the Wiki. This helped:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Beamer

The example by Rich Drewes is very nice, but I noticed that LaTeX looks for
what appears to be Python scripts in some frames of Section 2. Thus, for me,
the PDF or DVI production fails. The scripts look like ones Rich wrote
himself, so the compilation will likely fail for anyone that downloads it.
But, the example LyX file gives you the idea.

I'm also particularly interested in any other advice people have about
Beamer presentations via LyX. (I'm on WinXP with LyX 1.5.3.)



-
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Virginia Institute of Marine Science
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread David Hewitt



 I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a
 long while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It
 does take a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have
 a consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
 structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played
 anywhere.
 

Can you post a simple example to the Wiki?

-
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Virginia Institute of Marine Science
http://www.vims.edu/fish/students/dhewitt/
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Helge Hafting

David Hewitt wrote:


  

I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a
long while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It
does take a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have
a consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played

anywhere.




Can you post a simple example to the Wiki?
  

There is a template distributed with LyX. I have used that as a starting
point, and simply removed what I didn't need or want. This was
sufficient to make a couple of useful presentations. (I obviously
also added the text and figures needed. :-)

If you make presentations regularly, you should make your own
starting point template as soon as you find yourself repeating
stuff at the start of each new presentation.

As mentioned above, the consistency and structure is nice. Clicking
on a cross reference takes you there, so jumping around wildly is
possible, for example when answering questions from the audience.

You can make bullet points within a page appear one at a time if needed,
or anything else such as a series of pictures making up a cartoon.

Helge Hafting


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread John O'Gorman
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 15:23 +0100, muzzle wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
 am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
 for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
 Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good 
 idea?
 Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul be
 a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
 powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)

I use beamer for all my presentations.
It produces good quality, consistent, structured layouts and can produce
fully functional PDF files (with rather pleasant navigation icons).

It is not foolproof on my platform (SuSE and openSUSE) and not all the
supplied examples work. But if you start by finding the simplest example
file which works (or cull it until it does) then work up from there, you
will find the effort worthwhile.

I have tried others (e.g. Prosper and friends) in the past. Beamer is
better.

Recently I flirted with powerdot. It is a nightmare on the SUSE
platforms and relies on postscript for overlays, animation, etc which
then do not translate fully to PDF. Powerdot also relies on TeX packages
which are not included by default in the SUSE teTeX distributions.

If you wish, contact me separately, and I will send you sample
presentations I have made. (One of the presentations is on LyX - LaTeX
for our local Linux User Group).

regards
John O'Gorman
 Goodbye,
 
 Emme
 



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Les Denham
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, muzzle wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
 am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
 for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
 Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
 idea? Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul
 be a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
 powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
 Goodbye,

Emme,

I have used Powerdot very successfully for presentations at international 
conferences for about three years (http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Powerdot).

I have installed Powerdot from CTAN on four computers running different (but 
all up-to-date) Linux distributions, and have not yet found the default LaTeX 
installation to meet the prerequisites for Powerdot (usually the required 
version of xkeyval [2.5c] is not there).  These requirements are on page 26 
of the Powerdot manual, unobtrusively included under the heading Compiling 
your presentation.  A LyX layout is included with the CTAN download.

Overall, I think Powerdot gives much better (more professional and consistent) 
results than PowerPoint, but does not have the ease of editing, nor many of 
the bells and whistles.  I would say it is about 70% integrated into LyX.  
One point which is not emphasized in the manual is that though the final 
product is usually a PDF file, you can't get it using pdflatex -- you have to 
use ps2pdf.

-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Les Denham
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, John O'Gorman wrote:
 Recently I flirted with powerdot. It is a nightmare on the SUSE
 platforms and relies on postscript for overlays, animation, etc which
 then do not translate fully to PDF. Powerdot also relies on TeX packages
 which are not included by default in the SUSE teTeX distributions.

John,

This is a valid criticism of Powerdot.  However, I think you'll find it worth 
persevering to get it running.  One of the systems I use it on is a 64-bit 
SMT version of Suse 10.1 (and you probably wouldn't believe the extra 
incompatibilities you get with 64-bit!), and you're right -- it wants half a 
dozen pieces not included in the Suse distribution: but they're all readily 
available on CTAN, and quite easy to install (if you read the instructions -- 
it varies from package to package).

Powerdot does not work properly with pdflatex for conversion to PDF, but it 
does work properly with ps2pdf.  

I include \hypersetup{pdfpagemode=FullScreen} in the Preamble, which starts 
the presentation with a full-screen display, instead of the usual Acroread 
menu and border.  You can easily customize the layout with judicious use of 
ERT, or use one of the included styles and stick with the defaults.

-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread muzzle
Hi,
I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good idea?
Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul be
a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
Goodbye,

Emme


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread obregonmateo
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 14:23, muzzle wrote:
> Hi,
> I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
> am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
> for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
> Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
> idea? Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul
> be a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
> powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
> Goodbye,
>
> Emme

I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a long 
while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It does take 
a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have a 
consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played 
anywhere.

Mateo.


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread David Hewitt



> I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I am
> trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited for the
> task and I went back to pure latex code.
> Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
> idea?
> Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it could be a
> very interesting improvement given the quality of the average
> powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
> 

It sure seems like a good idea to me. The Beamer products are very
impressive and clean, and IMO anything is better than another dull PPT
presentation with Comic Sans text. I intended to start working on this a few
days from now for a presentation of my own, but knowing nothing I went and
checked the Wiki. This helped:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Beamer

The example by Rich Drewes is very nice, but I noticed that LaTeX looks for
what appears to be Python scripts in some frames of Section 2. Thus, for me,
the PDF or DVI production fails. The scripts look like ones Rich wrote
himself, so the compilation will likely fail for anyone that downloads it.
But, the example LyX file gives you the idea.

I'm also particularly interested in any other advice people have about
Beamer presentations via LyX. (I'm on WinXP with LyX 1.5.3.)



-
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Virginia Institute of Marine Science
http://www.vims.edu/fish/students/dhewitt/
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread David Hewitt



> I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a
> long while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It
> does take a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have
> a consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
> structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played
> anywhere.
> 

Can you post a simple example to the Wiki?

-
David Hewitt
Virginia Institute of Marine Science
http://www.vims.edu/fish/students/dhewitt/
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Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Helge Hafting

David Hewitt wrote:


  

I've been using the beamer presentation document class within Lyx for a
long while now, and I wouldn't think of going back to anything else. It
does take a bit of getting used to, but it's very important for me to have
a consistency of look, the referencing of figures and text, a hierarchical 
structure for the presentation and a generic PDF file that can be played

anywhere.




Can you post a simple example to the Wiki?
  

There is a template distributed with LyX. I have used that as a starting
point, and simply removed what I didn't need or want. This was
sufficient to make a couple of useful presentations. (I obviously
also added the text and figures needed. :-)

If you make presentations regularly, you should make your own
starting point template as soon as you find yourself repeating
stuff at the start of each new presentation.

As mentioned above, the consistency and structure is nice. Clicking
on a cross reference takes you there, so "jumping around wildly" is
possible, for example when answering questions from the audience.

You can make bullet points within a page appear one at a time if needed,
or anything else such as a series of pictures making up a cartoon.

Helge Hafting


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread John O'Gorman
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 15:23 +0100, muzzle wrote:
> Hi,
> I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
> am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
> for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
> Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good 
> idea?
> Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul be
> a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
> powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)

I use beamer for all my presentations.
It produces good quality, consistent, structured layouts and can produce
fully functional PDF files (with rather pleasant navigation icons).

It is not foolproof on my platform (SuSE and openSUSE) and not all the
supplied examples work. But if you start by finding the simplest example
file which works (or cull it until it does) then work up from there, you
will find the effort worthwhile.

I have tried others (e.g. Prosper and friends) in the past. Beamer is
better.

Recently I flirted with powerdot. It is a nightmare on the SUSE
platforms and relies on postscript for overlays, animation, etc which
then do not translate fully to PDF. Powerdot also relies on TeX packages
which are not included by default in the SUSE teTeX distributions.

If you wish, contact me separately, and I will send you sample
presentations I have made. (One of the presentations is on LyX - LaTeX
for our local Linux User Group).

regards
John O'Gorman
> Goodbye,
> 
> Emme
> 



Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Les Denham
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, muzzle wrote:
> Hi,
> I have been using lyx for my latex needs for quite a long time. Now I
> am trying latex presentations, but lyx does not seem very well suited
> for the task and I went back to pure latex code.
> Can you give me some advice on writing slides with lyx? Is it even a good
> idea? Any plans for the next release regarding this area? I think it coul
> be a very interesting impovement given the quality of the average
> powerpoint/openoffice presentation :)
> Goodbye,

Emme,

I have used Powerdot very successfully for presentations at international 
conferences for about three years (http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Powerdot).

I have installed Powerdot from CTAN on four computers running different (but 
all up-to-date) Linux distributions, and have not yet found the default LaTeX 
installation to meet the prerequisites for Powerdot (usually the required 
version of xkeyval [2.5c] is not there).  These requirements are on page 26 
of the Powerdot manual, unobtrusively included under the heading "Compiling 
your presentation".  A LyX layout is included with the CTAN download.

Overall, I think Powerdot gives much better (more professional and consistent) 
results than PowerPoint, but does not have the ease of editing, nor many of 
the "bells and whistles".  I would say it is about 70% integrated into LyX.  
One point which is not emphasized in the manual is that though the final 
product is usually a PDF file, you can't get it using pdflatex -- you have to 
use ps2pdf.

-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


Re: Latex presentation with lyx

2008-01-23 Thread Les Denham
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, John O'Gorman wrote:
> Recently I flirted with powerdot. It is a nightmare on the SUSE
> platforms and relies on postscript for overlays, animation, etc which
> then do not translate fully to PDF. Powerdot also relies on TeX packages
> which are not included by default in the SUSE teTeX distributions.

John,

This is a valid criticism of Powerdot.  However, I think you'll find it worth 
persevering to get it running.  One of the systems I use it on is a 64-bit 
SMT version of Suse 10.1 (and you probably wouldn't believe the extra 
incompatibilities you get with 64-bit!), and you're right -- it wants half a 
dozen pieces not included in the Suse distribution: but they're all readily 
available on CTAN, and quite easy to install (if you read the instructions -- 
it varies from package to package).

Powerdot does not work properly with pdflatex for conversion to PDF, but it 
does work properly with ps2pdf.  

I include \hypersetup{pdfpagemode=FullScreen} in the Preamble, which starts 
the presentation with a full-screen display, instead of the usual Acroread 
menu and border.  You can easily customize the layout with judicious use of 
ERT, or use one of the included styles and stick with the defaults.

-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
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