[PD] Music notation in pure data
Is there a working music notator in PD? pp Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2070 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Soundfiler not behaving as expected
I suggest you use player~ by Eric Lyon for stable playback :-) I cannot speak to the bad header though Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Eric Lyon audiodid...@gmail.commailto:audiodid...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, in Pd 0.45.4 vanilla I'm getting the following behavior from soundfiler, using the help file: 1. Hit 2nd message down to read full bell sound into array2 - works fine. 2. Hit 4th message down to write an AIFF file to /tmp - resulting sound file is unreadable, apparently due to an invalid header. 3. HIt 5th message down to write a WAVE file to /tmp - works fine. Below is a report from diagnostic utility sndfile-info. 2013 iMac, OS X 10.9.2. Version : libsndfile-1.0.25 Error : Not able to open input file foo1.aif. File : foo1.aif Length : 311942 FORM : 311932 (should be 311934) AIFF COMM : 18 Sample Rate : 44100 Frames : 155944 Channels: 1 Sample Size : 16 Encoding: NONE Unknown chunk marker 4568C0 at position 38. Resyncing. Unknown chunk marker 4568 at position 39. Resyncing. *** Unknown chunk marker 445 at position 44. Exiting parser. Invalid SF_PRIVATE field : dataoffset == -1. -Eric ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Arp emulation?
i think that is the one i shared. it has got to be 10 years old. i kept it for years and many folks have modified it and added to it over the years Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Max [abonneme...@revolwear.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:10 PM To: Dan Wilcox; pd-list@iem.at List Subject: Re: [PD] Arp emulation? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014? 03? 15? 00:07, Dan Wilcox wrote: You have an Arp emulation patch? Can I get a copy? Matthew Bielich has done an Arp Odyseey patch in Tom Erbes class at the UCSD. I think you can find it online. m. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMpCrcACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6KHxACeL3RqM/vV+LpTR1pOJV+FQwbk boEAn1cCq2lVWDWRSm20EqhGRhXh1yJp =Nk8z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mtx_*, mtx, mtx_-
can someone remind me where i locate these? Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Arp emulation?
Cyrillic I grabbed the subversion, where is your file located? I have a Moog emulation too I am willing to share. I have been saving and collecting since 1994. It is midi capable as well. I have been fooling with adding OSC control and transferring them to MOBMUPLAT for iOS Sent from my iPad On Mar 18, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.commailto:billy.stilt...@gmail.com wrote: nice filter Cyrille! what's wrong with mine? xensynth/polysynth/noisybox-l_bp.pd can be found in linfilterbank.pd~ or from the graphical interface of either synth as checkbox 4 (if the first is #1) filter selection. it seems as if its in permanent resonance, it's a model of the original cookbook filters https://archive.org/details/Xensynth10.01 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.netmailto:c...@chnry.net wrote: Le 14/03/2014 16:07, Dan Wilcox a écrit : You have an Arp emulation patch? Can I get a copy? if you like analog synth emulation, you can have a look at mine: it's an example of the nusmuk_audio lib, in pd svn. cheers c I have a MiniMoog emulation in pd, but I've been sitting on it for years ... just haven't been abel to add the finishing touches. I recently brought in the bandlimited oscillators in rjlib and it sounds really good now. It's not a perfect emualtion, but more in the same spirit with the same controls. I have the code for an ARP Odyssey that still works and it even has midi working. So it might be a nice starter project, especially if i can export it to a ipad/iphone. I guess i am just looking for some more in-depth examples to digest before i get cracking thanks! pp -- Dan Wilcox danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd and Unity
Hello, i switched to OSX and have an example of libpd and a sine tone on a slider inside Unity 4.3.1 working I did a make and got a libpd.dylib, which had to be renamed to libpd.bundle and i followed this blog post successfully http://kylehalladay.com/all/blog/2013/11/10/Libpd-and-Unity.html Does anyone have any other examples of pd providing other sound for Unity? I would like to see if pd can be used to provide the full audio part for a game but i am also interested in perhaps making a synth emulation in Unity3D. I have the code for an ARP Odyssey that still works and it even has midi working. So it might be a nice starter project, especially if i can export it to a ipad/iphone. I guess i am just looking for some more in-depth examples to digest before i get cracking thanks! pp Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: pured...@11h11.com [pured...@11h11.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:23 PM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] libpd and Unity Would be useful to see the errors. Also what version of Unity (free / pro) (3.5 / 4)? Did you compile your own pdcsharlib.dll? Windows: install mingw and compile libpd (https://github.com/libpd/libpd) make csharplib. Copy libs/libpdcsharl.dll to Assets/Plugins à+ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd and Unity
I am NOT getting both of them working the csharplib.dll throws a ton of errors on a windows7 install. Can someone link a different libpd Unity Project that makes sound to show an example? I would love to get it working but so far i am unsuccesful with windows so far pp Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of pured...@11h11.com [pured...@11h11.com] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 6:51 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] libpd and Unity Yes both adc / dac are working: You can load a sample in a AudioSource, this will be the ADC signal You can make a patch with a DAC, this will be the AudioListener Communication from Unity - PD is working Communication from PD - Unity is working Loading externals are working too. But what I do is to compile the external with libpd and call it in setup(). I have been using comport for communication between a microcontroller and Unity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVlGEmsO0Ps Right now: Unity 3.5 / Unity 4 OSX (Unity PRO) Windows 32bit (can be run on 64bit)* Android Coming eventually: iOS *I have been able to use the indie/free version of Unity 3.5 on Windows when placing the libpdcsharp.dll at the right place. Didn't test with Unity 4. Since Unity4 you can build for Android even with the indie version. Not implemented, spatialisation when using a DAC. ADC / AudioSource is handle by Unity (you need to toggle 3D sound). à+ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd and Unity
Can you guys be clear about what is working? Pd audio in Unity? :-) crossing fingers Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Varun Nair nothingtok...@gmail.commailto:nothingtok...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it was built from the master branch. The C# wrappers are used across OSX, Android and Windows in Unity. Will test pd_045-4 next when I get the time. Cheers Varun -- @ntkeephttp://twitter.com/ntkeep re-sounding.comhttp://re-sounding.com designingsound.orghttp://designingsound.org Dan Wilcoxmailto:danomat...@gmail.com 7 March 2014 14:53 Are you using the libpd master branch? Can you use the pd_045-4 branch as that will become the new master soon. The change is that I added hook setter functions and updated all of the wrappers. I wasn't able to test the csharp wrapper, so if that's what you're using on Windows it would be nice to double check that it's working. Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RjDj/ScenePlayer for iOS?
Also MobMuPlat works real nice too Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Joe White white.j...@gmail.commailto:white.j...@gmail.com wrote: Btw awesome work Chris and Dan! On 28 February 2014 12:53, Joe White white.j...@gmail.commailto:white.j...@gmail.com wrote: Although it looks like PdDroidParty supports this already https://github.com/danomatika/PdParty/blob/master/doc/PdParty_User_Guide.md On 28 February 2014 12:50, Joe White white.j...@gmail.commailto:white.j...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have Xcode and the ability to build onto a device? (i.e. a iOS developer account) Input support should be possible if you pass through the device accelerometer and touch information to #accelerate and #touch receives respectively in the patch. Off the top of my head accelerometer data is packed in to a x y z list, and touch is touchIndex x y state or something similar. Where state is up/down/move. If there's a certain patch that utilises touch it shouldn't be too difficult to reverse engineer the correct formatting. Cheers, Joe On 28 February 2014 11:11, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.atmailto:zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 02/28/2014 04:38 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: https://github.com/danomatika/PdParty You will need to compile it yourself. afaik this is a port of the amazing PdDroidParty. however, i'm not looking for a generic Pd-patch player, but rather for something that can play standard RjDj scenes. anyhow: is there support for accelerometer and multi-touch in Pd(Droid)Party? On 02/28/2014 12:00 AM, Joe White wrote: RjDj was removed from the app store around 1 or 2 years ago. i know. that's why i was asking. It's been a while since I've done it but if you've got the developer tools then you should be able to use libpd to run the scenes in an iOS app. see above. fgmrds IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Follow me on Twitter @diplojocus -- Follow me on Twitter @diplojocus -- Follow me on Twitter @diplojocus ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] smooth random numbers
Hello i have asked this is a few different ways and experimented but i am wondering, how does one create smooth random numbers that flow between each number instead of hoping from number to number? I would like to start creating random midi values from 0-127 and pick each number say every 5 second and have each random number then flow to the next smoothly. so if say the first number is 60 and the second is 85, the data stream would flow from 60, 61, 62 63.until it reached 85 and then from 85 smoothly to the next random selection. I have not had the luck i was hoping with Vline, someone suggested an array but i am hoping someone might share some math or abstraction so i can get a handle on how to implement it thank you Patrick Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wich licence?
Mario i looked at the MEH System and i would like to see if i can get it running. Does it work on OSX? IS There a place where i can get all the parts in one place? Here is my current pd window on OSX, looks like it's missing ipoke and some OSC stuff is not working correctly routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 ... couldn't create ipoke2~ $0-bank-array-r ... couldn't create ipoke2~ $0-bank-array-l ... couldn't create expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License [list2symbol] part of zexy-2.2.3 (compiled: Sep 22 2010) Copyright (l) 1999-2008 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /fader /allmid ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /fader /allmid /toggle /peak-xy /peak-q /peak-toggle ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create [wrap] part of zexy-2.2.3 (compiled: Sep 22 2010) Copyright (l) 1999-2008 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM grid: version 0.8, written by Yves Degoyon (ydego...@free.fr) routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /0 /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /fxDepth /hold /xy /xtoggle /fxgroup-select /fx-select ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 ... couldn't create line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed [lister] part of zexy-2.2.3 (compiled: Sep 22 2010) Copyright (l) 1999-2008 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed spigot~: a signal router : version 0.1, written by Yves Degoyon (ydego...@free.fr) sigmund~ version 0.05 udpsend ... couldn't create packOSC ... couldn't create unpackOSC ... couldn't create udpreceive 8000 ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /nada_aun /bank1 /bank2 /bank3 /bank4 /banksVol /cons-apply ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /nada_aun /bank1 /bank2 /bank3 /bank4 /banksVol /cons-apply ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /cancel /sample /resample /looping /overdub ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /a /b /bpmEncoder /beats /test ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 ... couldn't create routeOSC /in-vol /in-eq3 /out-vol /out-eq7 /save-file /bank-vol /reset-bank-vol ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /0 /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /fxDepth /hold /xy /xtoggle /fxgroup-select /fx-select ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 ... couldn't create line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed ipoke2~ $0-bank-array-r ... couldn't create ipoke2~ $0-bank-array-l ... couldn't create ipoke2~ $0-bank-array-r ... couldn't create
[PD] vst~ for OSX, any update?
Hello I am asking if anyone has had any success on updating the vst~ object for OSX. I would really like to use some simple vst~ plugins with GUIs inside of Pd, but i cannot seem to get the GUI window to pop up still. Pd sees all the information, ins/outs and methods but cannot display the GUI interface so it seems. I am building and extension to the Console abstraction Leonard made some years ago and i would like it to have interchangeable vsts for REVERB/DELAY/FILTER AND a wildcard effect. please help pp Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI
I think it's just --listdevices on the command line Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Antoine Villeret antoine.ville...@gmail.commailto:antoine.ville...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm wondering how to get a list of midiout devices without GUI. This has to work without GUI. I tried [mediasettings/midisettings] but it always report 0 devices (both in and out) when there is no GUI. i also know the -listdev option to Pd, but this only list devices in console, and I need to proccess the number in the patch. I observe this on Linux (both Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and Raspbian (kernel 3.10.25+) with pd 0.45-4. But it seems to be OK on MacOS with pd 0.45-3. Thanks Antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
What App Pall? Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pall Thayer [pallt...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 7:53 PM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] Is open source better? I'm giving a presentation this week. In a way, it's a counter argument to a recent presentation on Max/MSP. One of the things that I want to highlight is the open sourceness of PD. libpd presents a very good argument and I'll be highlighting a project I was involved with that produced an IOS app that used libpd as the audio engine. Is there anything else I should be considering besides the obvious points of open source being open source. Concrete examples of PD's open sourceness trumping proprietary technologies? Thanks, Pall -- * Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] usb controller for pd
It does not have led but the arturia mini lab is working well for me and it has overlays for knob names that I like and it's 99$ and also works with iPad very well Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:24 PM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote: Have been looking round for a midi (preferably USB) controller for pd. here's what i have decided i need: * endless rotary knobs with LED displays * LCD display above each knob I've messed around with midi and usb controllers for years, and basically, if there is nothing written on the knob, i'm not smart enough to remember what that knob is meant to do. So the LCD display is a must. Also, i like to rapid-fire preset changes, so endless rotary knobs with LED displays is also a must. pretty much, the mackie c4 looks ideal, except for a couple of things that worry me: (1) no usb (2) not sure how well it integrates into pd in realtime (ie, can i update the LCD displays, knob position LEDS, etc???) (3) i read that the knobs take 5 full turns to send 0-127 midi cc. that sux. another one i'm looking at is the novation remote zero, which seems kinda cool too, but all i really need is the endless rotary knobs and LCD display, so there's a lot of stuff there i don't need. is there something i might have overlooked? i tried lemur and all that too, but i just can't get into the touch screen thing, either. i need real knobs. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.6 released
Hooray! Been waiting for this for a while! Congratulations. I plan on using this in my SOUND DESIGN class in Spring 2014, Great work Jamie! I'll tweet at you pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Jamie Bullock Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 9:19 AM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.6 released We are delighted to announce the latest release of Integra Live - an interactive audio application for musicians and music education Integra Live supports Mac OS X 10.6 or later and Windows XP or later. It can be downloaded from the Integra Live website: http://www.integralive.org Here's what's new in this version... * Module Manager with facilities to install and manage modules created with the new Integra Module Creator * MIDI monitor * MIDI learn * Module Library keyword search * Module Library filter by tag * Mute control for Project and Tracks * Non-linear parameter scaling * Curve mode for Envelope editing * Lock individual envelopes for editing * New scripting syntax, e.g.: TapDelay1.delayTime = math.random(10) * Temporary parameter lock override New modules: * Brightness Analyser * Noise Gate * Multi-band Compressor * Noisiness Analyser * Partial Analyser * Perceptual Loudness Analyser * Quad Soundfiler * Tempo Detector Join the community... Follow us on Twitter: @integralive Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/integra.live Cheers! -- The Integra Live team ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.6 released
I am getting an error with the module creator install .dmg Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pagano, Patrick [p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 9:51 AM To: Jamie Bullock; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.6 released Hooray! Been waiting for this for a while! Congratulations. I plan on using this in my SOUND DESIGN class in Spring 2014, Great work Jamie! I'll tweet at you pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Jamie Bullock Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 9:19 AM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.6 released We are delighted to announce the latest release of Integra Live - an interactive audio application for musicians and music education Integra Live supports Mac OS X 10.6 or later and Windows XP or later. It can be downloaded from the Integra Live website: http://www.integralive.org Here's what's new in this version... * Module Manager with facilities to install and manage modules created with the new Integra Module Creator * MIDI monitor * MIDI learn * Module Library keyword search * Module Library filter by tag * Mute control for Project and Tracks * Non-linear parameter scaling * Curve mode for Envelope editing * Lock individual envelopes for editing * New scripting syntax, e.g.: TapDelay1.delayTime = math.random(10) * Temporary parameter lock override New modules: * Brightness Analyser * Noise Gate * Multi-band Compressor * Noisiness Analyser * Partial Analyser * Perceptual Loudness Analyser * Quad Soundfiler * Tempo Detector Join the community... Follow us on Twitter: @integralive Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/integra.live Cheers! -- The Integra Live team ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd for iOS set-up
Hey Nick Let me know how you get on I just bought Making musical apps as well and I would love to mirror the how to with someone else. I have 10.8.5 and Xcode5 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Nick Arner nicholasar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have been setting up my libpd project exactly as described in the Making Musical Apps book, but keep getting an error that z_queued.h can't be found...does anyone have any tips or suggestions? Thanks! Nick -- Nicholas Arner MSc in Music Technology by Research Department of Electronics University of York ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] It's too quiet in here
Right on Phil, as I recall we web met via fractal midi software you wrote back in the day and you were kind enough to grant me - a starving gras student at that time a free license Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Phil Stone pkst...@ucdavis.edu wrote: Hmm, this once-thriving list has gone awfully silent of late. Is this thing on? tap tap I had the pleasure of meeting, for the first time, several august members of the Pd community this past weekend, thanks to Joe Deken and New Blankets gathering some of us together in San Diego and Los Angeles. Miller, Roman, Ivica, Jonathan, (and Katja -- I didn't do more than say hi, sorry) I just wanted to say that I am grateful to be involved in a group of such talented and humble people, and constantly marvel at what a powerful tool has been placed into my hands, at no cost. May Pd never die! Respect, Phil Stone ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OSC-motion for Pure Data
Have you all seen this? https://airspace.leapmotion.com/apps/osc-motion/osx I grabbed it because i just got a Leap Motion but the help patch on the Vimeo help page does not seem to work like the video example. The LM.pd fille is the one from the website, the help1 file is my quick patch to at least get values. Anyone else try this? I do not seem to recognize the developers name but that does not mean much cheers~ pp Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 LM.pd Description: LM.pd OSC-Motion-help1.pd Description: OSC-Motion-help1.pd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX
Hello is there any way we might be able to get a working VST loader for OSX. Admittedly it is outside my skill set to compile externals but i am willing to bug test and write help patches if one is created. I think it would e very useful if we could load AU or vst in PD for MAc Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: Nicolas Montgermont [nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:08 PM To: Pagano, Patrick; peiman khosravi Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX Le 11/11/13 20:43, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Nicholas, do you have the source? Infos here: http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/vst I've never seen the edit window working since I use this binary ( ~2010 iirc ) n -- http://www.nimon.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX
Is it possible to compile it for 10.8? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:19 AM, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.commailto:peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't seem to be fully functional (on 10.7.5). It loads the plugin but then I can't open the edit window of the plugin. Best, Peiman www.peimankhosravi.co.ukhttp://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert Newshttp://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/ On 11 November 2013 08:52, Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.frmailto:nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr wrote: Here is a compiled version of vst~ that miller posted years ago on this list. I don't know if something newer exist. best, n Le 10/11/13 23:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Hello i am building a mixing console for pd for a project and i would like to use either AUs or VSTs in it. Is there a VST/AU loader for pure data on mac? Also, I am curious what your favorite plugin is Free or Pay thanks for the answers! pp Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.nimon.org ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX
I just tried on OSX 10.8.5, everything seems to work except as Peiman reported as well, the edit window does not create. It sees all the relevant info, ins/outs and parameters but no edit window. Nicholas, do you have the source? Perhaps we can ask Miller to compile a new one against 10.7/10.8 or 10.9 I have a great old abstraction by Leonard Swiezinski called called console written in 2002 that is perfect for the project we are working on and i would love to include a few VSTs for a fancy effect bus. I can't use Windows or Linux because the project will include a MAC only program for video cues cheers~ Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pagano, Patrick [p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:08 PM To: peiman khosravi Cc: PD List; Nicolas Montgermont Subject: Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX Is it possible to compile it for 10.8? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:19 AM, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.commailto:peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't seem to be fully functional (on 10.7.5). It loads the plugin but then I can't open the edit window of the plugin. Best, Peiman www.peimankhosravi.co.ukhttp://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert Newshttp://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/ On 11 November 2013 08:52, Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.frmailto:nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr wrote: Here is a compiled version of vst~ that miller posted years ago on this list. I don't know if something newer exist. best, n Le 10/11/13 23:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Hello i am building a mixing console for pd for a project and i would like to use either AUs or VSTs in it. Is there a VST/AU loader for pure data on mac? Also, I am curious what your favorite plugin is Free or Pay thanks for the answers! pp Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.nimon.org ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] AU or VST loader for OSX
Hello i am building a mixing console for pd for a project and i would like to use either AUs or VSTs in it. Is there a VST/AU loader for pure data on mac? Also, I am curious what your favorite plugin is Free or Pay thanks for the answers! pp Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Japanese PD books
Hello I was browsing on Amazon and I found quite a few books in Japanese written about pure data. I am wondering if there are any translations of these out there? I am currently reading the multimedia programming with pd and it seems nice so far but I am hoping and wondering if there is a more GEM focused book out there? Also, I wanted to pose/ask this question again regarding sequential patch playback. Peter and Marian's extended view toolkit kind of do this a little bit but I am wondering again if there is any way to configure or program pd to play a patch and then transition to another patch so that pd may be used for theatrical performances. I currently use Isadora for this but I still wish I could use pd for this purpose. I have fashioned playlist- but i would love to go from one Gem scene to the next with timed fades. I kind of can achieve to with pd syphon on Mac but my main theatre computer right now is a windows box. Does anyone share this desire with me? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Extended View toolkit : issue with masks
I found the same behavior, Marian and Peter wrote some amazing software there but you have to have a really fast graphics card for some of the fancier modules. Go with the one that delivers for you. 22 is really nice as I recall. I'll check my rates today and report back too Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 10, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Etienne Landon landon.etie...@gmail.commailto:landon.etie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I understand the shader part of ev_pro_22 but I 'm not shure the problem is here, the shader is only used to change texture coordinates and do soft-edging. In both cases, ev_pro_22 or ev_pro_22easy, I send a texture ID. So the chain with ev_pro_22 is not the one that does the work from movie to texture (the CPU part), it's done once by another chain. For what I understand, using the same texture ID for different gem chains avoids using the CPU for each chain, you use CPU only to transform your image, movie or whatever to a texture (which is stored in the GPU memory), then each chain links to the texture ID which is the position of the texture in the graphic card's memory. Am I wrong ? For instance, in the same work I do texturing on 200 pmpd masses linked to a gem chain. So 200 independant rendering chains, one texture, and this works without a problem. And there's no shader involved Moreover, the texture used for masking is a only one black pixel (see the masking example), so how come this could be so heavy ? 2013/10/10 Santi belfe...@gmail.commailto:belfe...@gmail.com El jue, 10-10-2013 a las 11:52 +0200, Etienne Landon escribió: Is there any reason why ev_pro_22easy is less efficient than ev_pro_22 ? I think ev_pro__22 uses OpenGl shaders so it uses the GPU in the graphic card. ev_pro_22easy uses the main CPU to made the work, so is less efficient, but it works in older machines. Great piece of software the extended toolkit view... Cheers. Santi Noreña. ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Designing Audio Objects for Pd
This file is similar to the popular fftease objects that were released by Eric and Christopher. I really dug the whole suite when it worked with perl scripts in the early days of OSX and I wished I had a few of the ones working that we're not included in fftease, Aphrodite is one of them. Take a gander and let me k ow if you think it's hopeless to even try and if not lets see what it might take to make an Aphrodite.pd_darwin :-) Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 9, 2013, at 12:55 AM, Brian Fay ovaltinevor...@gmail.commailto:ovaltinevor...@gmail.com wrote: I have a copy of the book checked out from the library. It's a really great intro to writing externals, although a solid understanding of C is really required to understand the book. The book unfortunately seems to be out of print, but I'd expect that Max/MSP would have some helpful documentation for writing externals. The process in Pd is very similar. I suppose I could give these source files a look, although I can't say for sure that I'll have the patience to transform them to externals. Uhhh... what do they do? I would guess a name like PVNation would refer to phase vocoder? Let me know if I can help you with anything! Brian On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Hello I am wondering if anyone on list has got Eric Lyon's book Designing Audio Objects for Max/msp and pd? I have never made any objects for pd but I would like to try to give it a shot. I would like to know if anyone would like to try to make a few objects from some sources that I got several years ago from Christopher Penrose, there was this cool software called PVNation and I am wondering if anyone would like to make a few of the files into a few pd objects? I have attached one of the .c files if anyone is interested please let me know. Patrick ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Designing Audio Objects for Pd
Yes I have the source. I will put it in a Dropbox If you like Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 9, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Brian Fay ovaltinevor...@gmail.commailto:ovaltinevor...@gmail.com wrote: Well I certainly don't think it's hopeless, but whether or not it's worth the effort is another question. The code is calling functions from some external libraries. I'm guessing there is a pv and a helper library somewhere with the rest of the PVNation code. Do you have the source for the whole project? I'm also wondering about the flag -ObjC in the makefile... is some of the project in Objective C? I'm using Linux so I guess I should expect some things to be different in the build process. Anyway, I think this could definitely be a feasible project, although I'm not super familiar with all of this stuff... Brian On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: This file is similar to the popular fftease objects that were released by Eric and Christopher. I really dug the whole suite when it worked with perl scripts in the early days of OSX and I wished I had a few of the ones working that we're not included in fftease, Aphrodite is one of them. Take a gander and let me k ow if you think it's hopeless to even try and if not lets see what it might take to make an Aphrodite.pd_darwin :-) Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020tel:%28352%29%20294-2020 On Oct 9, 2013, at 12:55 AM, Brian Fay ovaltinevor...@gmail.commailto:ovaltinevor...@gmail.com wrote: I have a copy of the book checked out from the library. It's a really great intro to writing externals, although a solid understanding of C is really required to understand the book. The book unfortunately seems to be out of print, but I'd expect that Max/MSP would have some helpful documentation for writing externals. The process in Pd is very similar. I suppose I could give these source files a look, although I can't say for sure that I'll have the patience to transform them to externals. Uhhh... what do they do? I would guess a name like PVNation would refer to phase vocoder? Let me know if I can help you with anything! Brian On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Hello I am wondering if anyone on list has got Eric Lyon's book Designing Audio Objects for Max/msp and pd? I have never made any objects for pd but I would like to try to give it a shot. I would like to know if anyone would like to try to make a few objects from some sources that I got several years ago from Christopher Penrose, there was this cool software called PVNation and I am wondering if anyone would like to make a few of the files into a few pd objects? I have attached one of the .c files if anyone is interested please let me know. Patrick ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Designing Audio Objects for Pd
Hello I am wondering if anyone on list has got Eric Lyon's book Designing Audio Objects for Max/msp and pd? I have never made any objects for pd but I would like to try to give it a shot. I would like to know if anyone would like to try to make a few objects from some sources that I got several years ago from Christopher Penrose, there was this cool software called PVNation and I am wondering if anyone would like to make a few of the files into a few pd objects? I have attached one of the .c files if anyone is interested please let me know. Patrick aphrodite.c Description: aphrodite.c Makefile Description: Makefile helper.h Description: helper.h pv.h Description: pv.h ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
please do! I would gladly test it out with some of my apps It would remove a bunch of this While we are on the subject does anyone on here have Supercollider working on IOS? I have a version working but the whole fear of selling it issue unfortunately for me has IMHO limited that lists willingness to help me get a working version on my ipad i know that is OT but it's related in my opinion. I want Pure Data Supercollider and csound to work on my IOS devices to to make a million dollars in the app store but to make art pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Dan Wilcox [danomat...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 1:42 AM To: i go bananas Cc: pd-list@iem.at List Subject: Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps Ok. I'll make a patch for it if no one else does ... maybe in a few days. On Oct 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, i go bananas hard@gmail.commailto:hard@gmail.com wrote: just to clarify, Shahrokh Yadegari, IRCAM, and the JMax developers, ALL agreed with the switch to LGPL license. so AFAIK, the 'GPL' claim in the source code is still there simply because no-one has changed it. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it seems like all the authors agree and there's already an LGPL license. I only brought up all of this due to the inconsistency between whats actually there in the source files. I'd love for that to just be changed and we all move on. It's not like this is a huge patent / money maker thing. If being anal and bringing this to light truly means I *can't* use it in the long run, well than I should have done what most everyone else does in these situations: use it and keep my mouth shut :P. We know what is allowed / not allowed by Apple, don't need a lawyer for that. On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:22 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.atmailto:pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: On 10/04/2013 01:44 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: One (not so minor) note on this... expr is copyright IRCAM (hahrokh Yadegari was working for IRCAM at the time) and is also included in Max, so it might be sbject to agreements between IRCAM and Cycling '74. I was under the impression it was under GPL, not LGPL. I just looked and saw that, indeed, the LICENSE.txt file says LGPL and the expr source code print out GPL on startup. The reason I think it's actually GPL is that that is how IRCAM released it -- as part of jMAX, years ago. The current code is based on that original code. Although it was extensively reworked by Shahrokh, I presume the GPL terms under which he was working required him to release the result under GPL too. So for the moment at least, I'm afraid FUD rules. My vote would be to keep all the original GPL licenses in Pd vanilla's expr, and to remove the LGPL readme. GPL was the licensed under which expr was originally released, so we can reasonably assume all the copyright holders agreed to that license. If the consensus was that it should be changed in order to accomodate Pure Data builds on IOS, then everyone who wants to use expr on IOS should pool their resources and hire a lawyer to explain what is and isn't allowed under the LGPL and Apple's TOS. The lawyer should also find out if it was indeed possible to change the license to LGPL in light of what Miller brings up about the original licensing. That's two unknowns wrt LGPL expr, and they won't be solved by revising the source nor IANAL discussions. Best, Jonathan Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Sound on sound delay
Does anyone have an example if an eno-esque sound on sound delay system I can gander at and tweak? Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 5, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Hmm... Looking back in the git repo i saw: commit 42f3e5f8dbc60ad644e9f8a1c5b61d1847e19470 Author: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Date: Thu Nov 3 11:40:35 2011 -0700 change expr~ source to LGPL license (with IRCAMs permission :) I had quite forgotten about this (and still can't remember this ever having happened) but here's the e-mail I got from Shahrokh: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 02:50:53AM -0700, Shahrokh Yadegari wrote: Dear Max and Miller, I got news from IRCAM that they are willing to release expr code on LGPL. Will that solve the current licensing problems? Max, could you communicate to the list and let me know what they think about this. I hope this helps. thanks, Shahrokh So I think we're in the clear (although I hope Shahrokh kept the mail from IRCAM authorizing this!) I'll go on and change the source over here so that it appears in the git repo. (This will take some time as I first want to merge my 0.45 fixes into 'master'.) cheers Miller On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 02:41:48PM +0900, i go bananas wrote: just to clarify, Shahrokh Yadegari, IRCAM, and the JMax developers, ALL agreed with the switch to LGPL license. so AFAIK, the 'GPL' claim in the source code is still there simply because no-one has changed it. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it seems like all the authors agree and there's already an LGPL license. I only brought up all of this due to the inconsistency between whats actually there in the source files. I'd love for that to just be changed and we all move on. It's not like this is a huge patent / money maker thing. If being anal and bringing this to light truly means I *can't* use it in the long run, well than I should have done what most everyone else does in these situations: use it and keep my mouth shut :P. We know what is allowed / not allowed by Apple, don't need a lawyer for that. On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:22 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: On 10/04/2013 01:44 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: One (not so minor) note on this... expr is copyright IRCAM (hahrokh Yadegari was working for IRCAM at the time) and is also included in Max, so it might be sbject to agreements between IRCAM and Cycling '74. I was under the impression it was under GPL, not LGPL. I just looked and saw that, indeed, the LICENSE.txt file says LGPL and the expr source code print out GPL on startup. The reason I think it's actually GPL is that that is how IRCAM released it -- as part of jMAX, years ago. The current code is based on that original code. Although it was extensively reworked by Shahrokh, I presume the GPL terms under which he was working required him to release the result under GPL too. So for the moment at least, I'm afraid FUD rules. My vote would be to keep all the original GPL licenses in Pd vanilla's expr, and to remove the LGPL readme. GPL was the licensed under which expr was originally released, so we can reasonably assume all the copyright holders agreed to that license. If the consensus was that it should be changed in order to accomodate Pure Data builds on IOS, then everyone who wants to use expr on IOS should pool their resources and hire a lawyer to explain what is and isn't allowed under the LGPL and Apple's TOS. The lawyer should also find out if it was indeed possible to change the license to LGPL in light of what Miller brings up about the original licensing. That's two unknowns wrt LGPL expr, and they won't be solved by revising the source nor IANAL discussions. Best, Jonathan Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
Which means no they will torture you and never approve your app Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:09 AM, i go bananas hard@gmail.commailto:hard@gmail.com wrote: i spent quite a long time being bounced from department to department with apple, trying to find out if i could use expr in IOS apps, and they never gave me a definitive answer. Basically they told me i'd have to hire a lawyer to find out :p On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.commailto:jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: On 10/02/2013 08:35 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: My approach with PdParty so far is: - GPL source code is incompatible with the Apple App Store due to the static linking requirement which means you cannot distribute GPL libs as dynamic libs which can be updated or replaced by the user - GPL patches are fine, they are text files which are not compiled into your app binary so can be freely replaced, I expose all of the GPL patches I use to the user so they can modify or update them to satisfy the distribution requirement of the GPL - I leave out [expr] [expr~] for now. The license in the expr src folder is LGPL, but the license in the source headers is GPL and the following is printed to console when first loading the external: expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License . I will leave it out until those parts of the code are explicitly changed. If this has already happened, then we need to merge in those changes to libpd. So far, as Miller suggests, I've been replacing [expr] with regular math objects. And make sure that all the authors sign off on that license change. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
There was quite a lot of discussion on the supercollider list about this too. Everyone is quick to share that you can't sell it. I don't want to sell anything I want to use the programs for my own use on a tablet, plain and simple. How did RJDJ do it? I'm curious. Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 3, 2013, at 3:35 AM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/10/13 10:39, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: And make sure that all the authors sign off on that license change. this was the subject of a long discussion on this list and discussions with the authors and copyright holders, check the archives for details, the license change was not done arbitrarily, the copyright holders decided to replace GPL by LGPL and took some time and care about it so I assume they did so properly. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
I need expr~ for my apps -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Jonathan Wilkes Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:34 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps On 10/04/2013 01:44 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: One (not so minor) note on this... expr is copyright IRCAM (hahrokh Yadegari was working for IRCAM at the time) and is also included in Max, so it might be sbject to agreements between IRCAM and Cycling '74. I was under the impression it was under GPL, not LGPL. I just looked and saw that, indeed, the LICENSE.txt file says LGPL and the expr source code print out GPL on startup. The reason I think it's actually GPL is that that is how IRCAM released it -- as part of jMAX, years ago. The current code is based on that original code. Although it was extensively reworked by Shahrokh, I presume the GPL terms under which he was working required him to release the result under GPL too. So for the moment at least, I'm afraid FUD rules. My vote would be to keep all the original GPL licenses in Pd vanilla's expr, and to remove the LGPL readme. GPL was the licensed under which expr was originally released, so we can reasonably assume all the copyright holders agreed to that license. If the consensus was that it should be changed in order to accomodate Pure Data builds on IOS, then everyone who wants to use expr on IOS should pool their resources and hire a lawyer to explain what is and isn't allowed under the LGPL and Apple's TOS. The lawyer should also find out if it was indeed possible to change the license to LGPL in light of what Miller brings up about the original licensing. That's two unknowns wrt LGPL expr, and they won't be solved by revising the source nor IANAL discussions. Best, Jonathan cheers Miller On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 02:27:37AM +0900, i go bananas wrote: I am the one who originally pushed for expr license change, and contacted apple, and the original expr licensees, etc here's what happened, in summary, from my foggy memory: i contacted the original author of expr, Mr Yadegari, and explained the situation that expr was in a strange limbo between vanilla pd and pd-extended. It's included in vanilla, but there license is different, etc etc... When we looked into it, we found that the original license for expr was in fact LGPL, not GPL, as stated in the pd documentation. (So, as Iohannas suggests, a bug report might be a good idea) When i asked about the possibility of changing to the pd style BSD license, Mr Yadegari was totally fine with that, and said that is what he had wished anyway. However, the expr license was now under control of the university, and i would have to contact the relevant people to ask about changing the license to BSD. In the meantime, i had called Apple, and asked about the legality of GPL, and they said GPL was not permitted, as you need to release the code with the app, and they don't have that facility built in to their app store. Then when i asked about the possibility of LGPL, which doesn't need the source code included in the package, they sent me from person to person, and i never got a straight answer... basically they told me that if i wanted to use LGPL, i would have to hire a lawyer to speak with their lawyer. Soit seemed like changing the expr license to BSD would be the best option. I contacted another developer who Mr Yadegari referred me to, and we spoke about the possibility of changing the license. He said no one had touched expr for years, but couldn't see any reason why not to change it. He said he'd need to check with the relevant department at the university, and with the other developers who had taken on the caretaking of expr. And then, university summer holidays started, before i could go any further, and i never heard back again about the license. So, as far as i understand, the expr developers i spoke to all seemed fine with the idea of BSD, but we just never got as far as getting everyone together and making the change. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:52 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 10/03/13 02:35, Dan Wilcox wrote: - I leave out [expr] [expr~] for now. The license in the expr src folder is LGPL, but the license in the source headers is GPL and the following is printed to console when first loading the external: expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public there has been extensive discussion on this with the original authors (*all* copyrightholders) of [expr] (most of it forwarded/CCed to this list), and IIRC correctly the final result as that expr has been re-licensed under the LGPL. for me this means that the code *is* LGPL, even if on load the splashscreen says that it is BSD4 or the microsoft EULA. but of course it is annoying to have contradictory license information
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
I would be all for this, often what I do is patch old code I have found over the years in Pure Data and MANY time expr~ is used for something essential so it seems That's not to say ALL of them but a lot of them do. I think a converter would be ideal if it could exist inside of vanilla! pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Miller Puckette Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:50 PM To: Jonathan Wilkes Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps My vote would be to keep all the original GPL licenses in Pd vanilla's expr, and to remove the LGPL readme. GPL was the licensed under which expr was originally released, so we can reasonably assume all the copyright holders agreed to that license. If the consensus was that it should be changed in order to accomodate Pure Data builds on IOS, then everyone who wants to use expr on IOS should pool their resources and hire a lawyer to explain what is and isn't allowed under the LGPL and Apple's TOS. The lawyer should also find out if it was indeed possible to change the license to LGPL in light of what Miller brings up about the original licensing. That's two unknowns wrt LGPL expr, and they won't be solved by revising the source nor IANAL discussions. Best, Jonathan Cheaper and simpler than talking to lawyers would be simply to write a new compatible one. On the way it could export an API so that other objects could evaluate expressions (you could embed them in messages, make a Max-like 'if', maybe have a thing that creates objects with expr-calculated creation arguments, etc). cheers M ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
How does rjdj do it? The apps are free but somebody laid out for something methinks Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: The sources are in libpd yes, but I remove them from my project. If the license change was done with the authors consent, it wasn't done properly because, as I said before, the headers in vexpr.c, vexpr_fun.c, and vexpr_if.c are GPL and it prints a GPL load message. The LGPL license is in the LICENSE.txt file: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/master/pure-data/extra/expr~ I could just go in and change them, but I don't know the authors nor have their consent, so I figure this should be done at the source. On Oct 3, 2013, at 3:52 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.atmailto:pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.commailto:simonzw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps Date: October 3, 2013 3:34:00 PM GMT+08:00 To: pd-list Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at But is expr part of libpd?? Simon Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Maximum size of a GEM window?
I have been doing 8000x1200 without any issue in GEM on windows7 w/ pd 42.5 but 7000x5000 is quite large but I have a w9000 ATI and 16GB RAM pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of David Schaffer Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:44 PM To: pd list Subject: [PD] Maximum size of a GEM window? Hi there, I was wondering if there was a software limitation to a GEM window size, or if it was just a matter of graphics card horsepower. I'm on a 2 years old macbook pro, driving an NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB chip and I'm having trouble creating a window bigger than 7000*5000 pixels. Values exceeding these will end up in a blank window (no console message). I would definitely need some insights about how to create BIG pictures in GEM. Thank you very much for your help. D.S http://www.flickr.com/photos/schafferdavid/ http://audioblog.arteradio.com/David_Schaffer/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gendy~
Thank YOU From: Matthias Kronlachner [m.kronlach...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:02 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] gendy~ Hi! I guess you are referring to this repo of gendy~: https://github.com/ssfrr/gendyflext I built it for OSX, you can find it here: http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/download/gendy~_osx_build.zip But, as it is done with flext, it would be a good exercise for the students to compile it on their own anyway. Matthias On 9/8/13 5:53 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Hello Does anyone have a gendy~ object for Pure Data OSX or WIndows? I found Spencers code that i built for linux, but i am hoping someone made it for the other platforms Been doing some Iannis stuff and was hoping to show it to some students Patrick ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gendy~
Hello Does anyone have a gendy~ object for Pure Data OSX or WIndows? I found Spencers code that i built for linux, but i am hoping someone made it for the other platforms Been doing some Iannis stuff and was hoping to show it to some students Patrick ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A giant step sideways for Pd on Android
Looks encouraging! Dan should I rebuild on Xcode? Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 3, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: Hey all, Just got MIDI input working in PdDroidParty thanks to Peter Brinkmann's new libpd midi glue code. This means you can plug a MIDI controller or keyboard into your Android tablet/phone using the OTG cable, and use it to control Pd on the device. Which means yr gigging setup just shrank to pocket size. Almost certainly bugs. Have at it! http://droidparty.net/ Now I must sleep. Cheers, Chris. PS after you load a patch it's under a menu option. PPS crashes phones/tablets that don't do USB in ( Android 2.3.4 I think). PPS I recently found a really good 7 tablet from Shenzen for $US 88 so we are getting down to Raspberry Pi kinds of prices. Email me if you want the link. -- http://mccormick.cx/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure Data and Korg Monotribe
Here is a working patch for what i am fooling with. I tried drunk from cycline and it's nice but it's not really what i would like to do, so i am hopeful i am more clear in my explanation someone might be able to point me in the right direction. I would like the random numbers to move say from 10 and then the next random number is 20, instead of hoping right to the value twenty next, how could i program pd to give the value 10 and then 11,12,13,14 etc. until it gets to 20 and then if the next value was 14, move slowly form 20 to 19,18,17,16,15,14. but slowly like on a ramp so that the values are moving numerically to each next random number intsead of jumping right to them. I hope this is clearer. I am wondering if a line or a delay would be the proper way to program it? help please cheers~ Patrick From: Pagano, Patrick Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:57 AM To: martin brinkmann; pd-list@iem.at Cc: muran...@gmail.com; cla...@mathr.co.uk Subject: RE: [PD] Pure Data and Korg Monotribe Here is what i have so far, i was just playing a bit with the randomization of the CCs Is someone willing to share a patch that show MIDI values being smoothed? I will try to employ whatever anyone shares, so i am going to start with Claude's patch and see how it works. From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of martin brinkmann [m...@martin-brinkmann.de] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:43 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pure Data and Korg Monotribe On 08/27/2013 05:41 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: I have a metro on about 200 triggering about 9 bangs for a [random 127] and the values are bopping all over the place and i would like them to move smoothly from random number to random number like a knob would. Can someone help me out with that? Is line what i want? or Vline? 'line' should do the trick: you can for example connect a [pack f 200] to the 'random', and a 'line' to the 'pack'. though maybe it is more interessting to randomize the 'slide time' too... bis denn! martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list glitchtribe.pd Description: glitchtribe.pd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure Data and Korg Monotribe
Can you share an example? I think bezier would be ideal Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Aug 27, 2013, at 6:45 AM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.commailto:muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Hello I am wondering and hoping someone else has got one of these Korg Monotribes. I have mod-ed mine with the USBtribe http://www.usbtri.be/ I am having a little bit of fun sending random values on channel 1 CC# 1, 7, 11, 16, 17, 80, 81 82 and 83 effectively glitching out the Synth portion. Can someone give me an example of how to produce smooth random values? I have a metro on about 200 triggering about 9 bangs for a [random 127] and the values are bopping all over the place and i would like them to move smoothly from random number to random number like a knob would. Can someone help me out with that? Is line what i want? or Vline? pp I guess you just answered your own question :o) Or, if linear ramps are not satisfying, I'd experiment with an Array set to bezier curves and read out at a higher resolution. András ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure Data and Korg Monotribe
Here is what i have so far, i was just playing a bit with the randomization of the CCs Is someone willing to share a patch that show MIDI values being smoothed? I will try to employ whatever anyone shares, so i am going to start with Claude's patch and see how it works. From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of martin brinkmann [m...@martin-brinkmann.de] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:43 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pure Data and Korg Monotribe On 08/27/2013 05:41 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: I have a metro on about 200 triggering about 9 bangs for a [random 127] and the values are bopping all over the place and i would like them to move smoothly from random number to random number like a knob would. Can someone help me out with that? Is line what i want? or Vline? 'line' should do the trick: you can for example connect a [pack f 200] to the 'random', and a 'line' to the 'pack'. though maybe it is more interessting to randomize the 'slide time' too... bis denn! martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list glitchtribe.pd Description: glitchtribe.pd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure Data and Korg Monotribe
Funny you said that because I did a max patch with randoms and drunk objects with the number and steps. Where would I find a drunk object for pd? I assume it will be in an external lib but I don't know where to find one yet Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Aug 27, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Jm Jones juan...@gmail.commailto:juan...@gmail.com wrote: drunk object? 2013/8/27 András Murányi muran...@gmail.commailto:muran...@gmail.com It was just an idea, which may or may not work. Unfortunately I don't have patches. András On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Can you share an example? I think bezier would be ideal Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020tel:%28352%29%20294-2020 On Aug 27, 2013, at 6:45 AM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.commailto:muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Hello I am wondering and hoping someone else has got one of these Korg Monotribes. I have mod-ed mine with the USBtribe http://www.usbtri.be/ I am having a little bit of fun sending random values on channel 1 CC# 1, 7, 11, 16, 17, 80, 81 82 and 83 effectively glitching out the Synth portion. Can someone give me an example of how to produce smooth random values? I have a metro on about 200 triggering about 9 bangs for a [random 127] and the values are bopping all over the place and i would like them to move smoothly from random number to random number like a knob would. Can someone help me out with that? Is line what i want? or Vline? pp I guess you just answered your own question :o) Or, if linear ramps are not satisfying, I'd experiment with an Array set to bezier curves and read out at a higher resolution. András ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- JM Jones ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pure Data and Korg Monotribe
Hello I am wondering and hoping someone else has got one of these Korg Monotribes. I have mod-ed mine with the USBtribe http://www.usbtri.be/ I am having a little bit of fun sending random values on channel 1 CC# 1, 7, 11, 16, 17, 80, 81 82 and 83 effectively glitching out the Synth portion. Can someone give me an example of how to produce smooth random values? I have a metro on about 200 triggering about 9 bangs for a [random 127] and the values are bopping all over the place and i would like them to move smoothly from random number to random number like a knob would. Can someone help me out with that? Is line what i want? or Vline? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pure Data Controlling SuperCollider via OSC
Does anyone have an example of Pure Data controlling SuperCollider Via OSC? Thanks in Advance pp Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure Data Controlling SuperCollider via OSC
Either, but hopefully Scsynth on 57120 for an instrument! -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of IOhannes zmölnig Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:40 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pure Data Controlling SuperCollider via OSC On 08/08/2013 03:24 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Does anyone have an example of Pure Data controlling SuperCollider Via OSC? which part of SuperCollider? sclang? scsynth?? the main thing to be aware of, is that SC uses a fixed port for OSC-communication. fgmadt IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi Behringer UCA222 boot problems
I tried too, no luck with sound blaster USB dongles btw Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Simply put, the RPI firmware does not work with USB audio correctly yet. See this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2013-07/103261.html I keep looking for fixes, but the way USB is handled, the only way for it to work without dropouts is to have *nothing* else plugged into the usb bus and ethernet disabled ... sucks. On Jul 26, 2013, at 5:41 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.atmailto:pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: John Canning johnnyboy7...@hotmail.co.ukmailto:johnnyboy7...@hotmail.co.uk Subject: [PD] Raspberry Pi Behringer UCA222 boot problems Date: July 26, 2013 5:40:49 PM EDT To: Pure Data pd-list@iem.atmailto:pd-list@iem.at Hi Folks, I have been trying for quite a while to get my Raspberry Pi to work in full duplex with Pd. I have installed the OS on the PdPi site and updated it. I am using a Behringer UCA222 for audio. When I change the USB speed down to 1 (dwc_otg.speed=1) in /boot/cmdline.txt my Pi won't boot with the soundcard plugged in. If I unplug the soundcard the Pi will boot but as soon as I plug it in the Pi crashes. Has anyone got any suggestions about why this is happening? Thanks, John Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Package that provides asoundlib.h
Alsa source/dev?? From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Priscilla L Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:50 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Package that provides asoundlib.h I am using angstrom linux on the beaglebone board, and am unable to find the package on opkg that provides asoundlib.h. Can someone please offer assistance? Thank you. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.5 released
Is there any development with this Promising Software? I really liked how it worked and I am wondering if you are still working on it? Patrick -Original Message- From: Jamie Bullock [mailto:ja...@jamiebullock.com] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:48 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Nicolas Montgermont; pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.5 released On 18 Jan 2013, at 15:29, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: I agree. It looks very smooth and sexy, but I cannot figure out how to get it to make a peep. Hahaha. Include a demo song so people can hear it in action. Very sleek looking pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Nicolas Montgermont Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:27 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [announce] Integra Live 1.5 released It is really impressive, specially the way pd is embedded so transparently inside it. Is there some place we can find a demo example track? Best, n Thanks both for these comments. There will at some point be on the website the set of works produced as part of the Integra Project, once these have been updated to the latest version of the software. However, I do also think a demo project is a good idea. In the interim -- there is a set of demo blocks that come with the application. Just drag a block from the Block Library on the left to a track. E.g. if you drag SoundfileLoop you should within a few seconds hear an african drum loop start. If this doesn't work for you, it would be helpful if you could report on the forum: http://integralive.uservoice.com Best, Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ in windows
Does sevvy support his Linux stuff anymore? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Another option would be to use a cross platform app layer wrapper (base stuff, not gui) that handles the pain for us. OpenFrameworks, for instance, uses Pocohttp://pocoproject.org/index.html which greatly eases threading, etc between Windows Unix. Of course, it's a C++ library, so that's probably a different story with the Pd core ... For instance, here's the Poco Process class: http://pocoproject.org/docs/Poco.Process.html On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.atmailto:pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Short digression-- after writing the Flext mingw build tutorial I've become much more understanding of Sevy's approach of actively not supporting Windows. I don't agree with it, as I think so much of Pd already runs adequately on Windows to warrant pd~, too, in order to offer free software to as many users as possible. But his was certainly a valid, compelling, and time-saving approach. :) Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: raspberry pi
I would love to find that! i assume it's not an alsa thing since the HDMI audio is different. Hopefully someone here has already found this. I am going to start looking around pp From: Miller Puckette [m...@ucsd.edu] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:06 PM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Julian Brooks; Simon Wise; PD List Subject: Re: [PD] OT: raspberry pi In raspian there's some way to select whether audio goes out the line out jack or the HDMI port - I can't remember but that should be findable. cheers Miller On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:54:19PM +, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Hi everyone and thank you for the help and links. I got wheezy up and running and installed pd-extended. I could not get audio out of the headphone jack on the Pi, but it comes out of the monitor that has HDMI on it. I then of course got greedy and over-clocked it and corrupted the file system. grrr. I picked up a mini usb audio card a Soundblaster X-fi GO! Pro and in the boot screen it sees it and it's in the drop down menu for AUDIO SETTINGS but i cannot do anything after i select it and the whole system freezes. I am wondering if jack may help with it. I got pdp working with pdp_sdl as the window outputs, pdp_glx and pdp_xv do not work. I am going to try to get Gedit and Supercollider working before i punt it into the Rubbish Bin. I may just use it to control DMX lighting with a USBDMXPro but as of now I am need some inspiration for it's use. :-) cheers~ and thanks pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Julian Brooks [jbee...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:08 AM To: Simon Wise Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] OT: raspberry pi Hey Patrick, I guess the standard most up to date raspbian wheezy is the best place to start. For me what's worked best is to find a super-minimal install and then build requirements on top of that. With the project I'm working on atm I couldn't get my pmpd patch to even run with the standard install (there is quite a lot going on though). Now the patch runs fine with a whole heap of other stuff on top of that (2 sensors, 6 channel soundcard etc). My htop reading fills me with joy-I think there's about a dozen processes including 3 shells. As it's a rev1 board I built a system on top of the hexxeh image (same guy who's done the 'rpi-update' program for updating the firmware. My understanding though is that with rev2 boards don't do it. The one that I've been keeping my eye on, and they've just released a brand new version is Mobius http://moebiuslinux.sourceforge.net/ This is what I'll be testing out for my rev2 boards. There's a whole host of conflicting info re RPi's out there, particularly overclocking to squeeze every last morsel of goodness out of them. Us audio bods have specific needs - like I want mine running flat out all the time without blowing up and there's a big difference with that to someone who very occasionally pushes their RPi and wants to tell everyone that there way is the best. My own take has been to only use smaller cards (4gb) from reputable sources - very hit and miss though, very definitely YMMV This has been useful for tweaks: http://blog.extremeshok.com/archives/1081 Indispensable resources for audio: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=286064#p286064 http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/raspberrypi Don't do video so can't help on that front but my friend was just showing me his rpi xbmc setup which was really good so must be well-doable. And of course there's a ton of stuff on our lovely list. Best of luck, Julian On 17 May 2013 09:04, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.commailto:simonzw...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/13 23:39, Max wrote: hi patrick Why don't you just use millers images with vanilla or the satellite-ccrma with pd-ext, both linked here: https://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi Both images are very close to 8GB (though much of that is empty space) ... the CCRMA one did fit my SD cards but the pd-la one was slightly too big. The raspbian wheezy image will fit on a much smaller card, and will expand its partition to fill what you have, and is working nicely here. Clearly not all 8GB cards are quite the full 8GB. http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/images/ If you try the standard debian armel it will probably work, but is compiled for a simpler CPU without hardware float (ARMv4 rather than v6), and will be slower. m. Am 16.05.2013 um 15:39 schrieb Patrick Paganobigsw...@ufl.edumailto:bigsw...@ufl.edu: Hello i just received my first raspberry doo-hickey and i am wondering what distro people are using. I tried the wheezy last night and it seems okay, i installed pd-extended after a few tries I was unsuccessful with getting the CCRMA distro to load onto an 8GB chip i basically would like to have pd with pdp working
Re: [PD] PDP test release
I have no problems with configure but make says nothing to be done. Make clean has no effect Sent from my iPhone On May 15, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Alan Brooker alan.brooker2...@gmail.commailto:alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: ./configure found m_pd.h now (I think) checking m_pd.h usability... yes checking m_pd.h presence... yes but have this error message #check if pd is installed. if this fails make install will stop here. test -d /usr/local/lib/pd install -d /usr/local/lib/pd/extra install -m 755 pdp.pd_linux /usr/local/lib/pd/extra install: cannot stat `pdp.pd_linux': No such file or directory make: *** [install] Error 1 thanks again! Alan On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Tom Schouten t...@zwizwa.bemailto:t...@zwizwa.be wrote: On 05/15/2013 05:18 PM, Alan Brooker wrote: Hi Tom Sorry to be a pain- but got his error @ sudo make install not a pain at all. thanks for the report. #check if pd is installed. if this fails make install will stop here. test -d /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/lib/pd make: *** [install] Error 1 I have Pd installed at usr/local/lib/pd (and also pd-extended usr/lib/pd-extended) already? as a quick fix, you could copy the m_pd.h to somewhere in your standard include path, i.e. to /usr/local/include these are the directories where configure looks for m_pd.h apart from the standard include path: $prefix/pd/src $prefix/src/pd/src ../src/ /usr/local/include/pd/ Where $prefix is what you give configure as: configure --prefix=... I wonder if there is a canonical way to do m_pd.h discovery these days. ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] High CPU usage when tracks are muted (Raspberry Pi)
This might be the wrong direction but for a multichannel installation I has great success with Eric Lyon's player~ abstraction in his pd potpourri set. Not sure if it will work since its an external but I had 20+ players firing off and never had a glitch. Cheers~ pp On May 5, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.commailto:jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Yep good call, maybe a Pd update might fix it (pre-compiled version for RPi on Miller's webpage http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html ) as from 0.44-2 the denormal thing has (apparently) been sorted. On 5 May 2013 18:58, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.camailto:martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: On 2013-05-05 13:52, Halfdan Mouritzen wrote: Yes, what I don't understand though is _why_ we see such an increase in CPU load, when the channels are muted. Could it be that denormals are produced when the line gets close to 0? Depending on how the floating point is set up that could cause a lot of context switching. What happens if you fade to 0.001 instead of 0? Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Video Looping
Pix_movie should loop or pix_film Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2013, at 9:20 PM, anna ioannidi a...@hotmail.commailto:a...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello to everyone. I have another newbie question. I have searched but I can't find a way that works for me. I want to loop a video. Does anyone knows how to do that? ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM FPS
Is there a way to tell how many FPS GEM is performing at? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Expression challenge 2013
Roman Can you explain to me what this awesome-ness you have created does? I am assuming it's a expr~ converter, but what is the proper way to deploy this? I assume i can use purepd in MobMuplat since it with be just abstractions? please, more info and thanks in advance for this! pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Roman Haefeli [reduz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 3:44 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Expression challenge 2013 On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:41 +, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Here they all Are everyone who helps will get a working version of my super Awesome Arp Patch :-) hahaha. mammies step up and espress yo-selves FZ Thingfish expr~ if($f3==0, ($v1 + 1) / 2, if($v20, 3, 0)) see attached: expr_challenge_1.pd (it uses purepd abstractions) Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Expression challenge 2013
I'm not sure how i would include this in my patch. expr~ expr has always been a little difficult for me so i am seeking a more remedial explanation for what roman has made. It looks elegant but i am unsure how to include this into the patch. i will crak it open and share it with you guys if you like, it's not pretty because it was supposed to be an under the hood patch i never realized how many patches use expr, expr~ fexpr etc..till this week pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Frank Barknecht [f...@footils.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:16 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Expression challenge 2013 Hi, On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 02:55:24PM +, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Can you explain to me what this awesome-ness you have created does? I am assuming it's a expr~ converter, but what is the proper way to deploy this? That would be cool, but Roman just used a subpatch and patched the inside manually. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
Hello I am trying to get a synthesizer patch i created onto the ipad, i erroneously thought that if the patch i was using opened up with PdVanillaFor MobMuPLat that is included in the release of MubMuPlat that it would work on the ipad. And since i am not selling the application i assumed that i could use the expr~ since it is included. But now that i finished setting it up when i load the file onto the ipad i get a bunch of errors with expr if($f1-$f2==0, 0, 1) error could'nt create load_object: Symbol expr_setup not found I know there is some issue with the license and i found this README.txt in files i has where Iohannes addressed the issue. IS there a way for me to use this object in this patch? I am including IOhannes' stuff regarding hexloader - hexloader - (c) copyleft 2006-2007 IOhannes m zmˆlnig, IEM the problem --- when dealing with abstractions and single-file externals, we have a 1-to-1 correspondence between an objectclass and a file. examples: the [expr] object matches an external ./expr.pd_linux the [zexy/nop~] object matches an abstraction ./zexy/nop~.pd general: the object [name] matches a file name.$EXT when dealing with externals, the name of the objectclass is also to be found in the setup function within the external example: to load the expr external, Pd will look for a function expr_setup() within the file ./expr.pd_linux general: the external name has to provide a setup-function void name_setup(void) this works fine, as long as there are no special characters involved: according to the above scheme, when loading the external expr~ Pd should actually be looking for expr~_setup() within the file ./expr~.pd_linux; unfortunately, the C-language (wherein most externals are written) does not allow function-names to use any characters other than a-zA-Z0-9_. therefore the name expr~_setup() is invalid; therefore, Pd handles the case of the trailing ~ in a special way: it actually expands the ~ to _tilde and looks for expr_tilde_setup() general: the object [name~] corresponds to an external name~.pd_linux which offers a setupfunction name_tilde_setup() unfortunately this doesn't work well for a larger number of characters forbidden in C-functionames. example: how should the setupfunction for an objectclass [~~] be named? additionally, several filesystems have problems with certain characters. for instance, you cannot use the character '' on FAT32 filesystems. but how do you then create a file for the objectclass [~]? a solution -- one solution is to just forbid objects with weird (non alphanumerical) names. pretty frustrating another solution use libraries with valid names that hold objects with weird names a better solution - another solution is to translate the forbidden characters into allowed ones. for instance, every ASCII-character can be called by it's name (e.g. 'a') as well as by it's numeric value 97 (or in hex: 0x61) the here-proposed solution is, to replace every illegal character by it's hexadecimal representation (in lowercase). examples: [] corresponds to the file 0x3e.pd [~] corresponds to the file 0x3e0x7e.pd or to 0x3e~.pd [ab] corresponds to the file a0x3eb.pd the same system can be applied to the setup-functions: examples: [ab] has a setupfunction a0x3eb_setup() CAVEAT: C also forbids to start function names with numeric values. therefore, this is a nono: []'s setupfunction would be 0x3e_setup() (ILLEGAL) we can simply fix this by putting the setup() in front: [] has a setupfunction setup_0x3e() implementation -- the hexloader external adds the possibility to Pd use the proposed alternative naming scheme. just load the hexloader lib, and the next time you try to create the (yet unknown) object X, Pd will also look for several alternatives example: [~] ~.pd_linux (filename ILLEGAL on SOME filesystems) ~_setup() (ILLEGAL functioname) setup_~(ILLEGAL functioname) 0x3e0x7e_setup()(ILLEGAL functioname) setup_0x3e0x7e() 0x3e~.pd_linux 0x3e~_setup() (ILLEGAL functioname) setup_0x3e~() 0x3e0x7e_setup()(ILLEGAL functioname) setup_0x3e0x7e() 0x3e0x7e.pd_linux 0x3e0x7e_setup()(ILLEGAL functioname) setup_0x3e0x7e() ~.pd (filename ILLEGAL on SOME filesystems) 0x3e~.pd 0x3e0x7e.pd the hexloader will try one alternative after another until it finds one that actually works (there is no problem in querying the ILLEGAL names, it is just impossible to create such filenames/setupfunctions) handling of / --- a special problem is the / character, as this might be a special character in the name of an object and the
Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
Well the object creates when I run the version of PD that comes with it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Thomas Grill g...@g.orgmailto:g...@g.org wrote: Hi Pat, maybe i missed your point, but are you sure that expr (and expr~ etc.) is compiled into MobMuPlat? My impression is that it isn't, so that object family can't be used. gr~~~ 2013/3/18 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Hello I am trying to get a synthesizer patch i created onto the ipad, i erroneously thought that if the patch i was using opened up with PdVanillaFor MobMuPLat that is included in the release of MubMuPlat that it would work on the ipad. And since i am not selling the application i assumed that i could use the expr~ since it is included. But now that i finished setting it up when i load the file onto the ipad i get a bunch of errors with expr if($f1-$f2==0, 0, 1) error could'nt create load_object: Symbol expr_setup not found I know there is some issue with the license and i found this README.txt in files i has where Iohannes addressed the issue. IS there a way for me to use this object in this patch? I am including IOhannes' stuff regarding hexloader - hexloader - (c) copyleft 2006-2007 IOhannes m zmˆlnig, IEM the problem --- when dealing with abstractions and single-file externals, we have a 1-to-1 correspondence between an objectclass and a file. examples: the [expr] object matches an external ./expr.pd_linux the [zexy/nop~] object matches an abstraction ./zexy/nop~.pd general: the object [name] matches a file name.$EXT when dealing with externals, the name of the objectclass is also to be found in the setup function within the external example: to load the expr external, Pd will look for a function expr_setup() within the file ./expr.pd_linux general: the external name has to provide a setup-function void name_setup(void) this works fine, as long as there are no special characters involved: according to the above scheme, when loading the external expr~ Pd should actually be looking for expr~_setup() within the file ./expr~.pd_linux; unfortunately, the C-language (wherein most externals are written) does not allow function-names to use any characters other than a-zA-Z0-9_. therefore the name expr~_setup() is invalid; therefore, Pd handles the case of the trailing ~ in a special way: it actually expands the ~ to _tilde and looks for expr_tilde_setup() general: the object [name~] corresponds to an external name~.pd_linux which offers a setupfunction name_tilde_setup() unfortunately this doesn't work well for a larger number of characters forbidden in C-functionames. example: how should the setupfunction for an objectclass [~~] be named? additionally, several filesystems have problems with certain characters. for instance, you cannot use the character '' on FAT32 filesystems. but how do you then create a file for the objectclass [~]? a solution -- one solution is to just forbid objects with weird (non alphanumerical) names. pretty frustrating another solution use libraries with valid names that hold objects with weird names a better solution - another solution is to translate the forbidden characters into allowed ones. for instance, every ASCII-character can be called by it's name (e.g. 'a') as well as by it's numeric value 97 (or in hex: 0x61) the here-proposed solution is, to replace every illegal character by it's hexadecimal representation (in lowercase). examples: [] corresponds to the file 0x3e.pd [~] corresponds to the file 0x3e0x7e.pd or to 0x3e~.pd [ab] corresponds to the file a0x3eb.pd the same system can be applied to the setup-functions: examples: [ab] has a setupfunction a0x3eb_setup() CAVEAT: C also forbids to start function names with numeric values. therefore, this is a nono: []'s setupfunction would be 0x3e_setup() (ILLEGAL) we can simply fix this by putting the setup() in front: [] has a setupfunction setup_0x3e() implementation -- the hexloader external adds the possibility to Pd use the proposed alternative naming scheme. just load the hexloader lib, and the next time you try to create the (yet unknown) object X, Pd will also look for several alternatives example: [~] ~.pd_linux (filename ILLEGAL on SOME filesystems) ~_setup() (ILLEGAL functioname) setup_~(ILLEGAL functioname) 0x3e0x7e_setup()(ILLEGAL functioname) setup_0x3e0x7e() 0x3e~.pd_linux 0x3e~_setup() (ILLEGAL functioname) setup_0x3e~() 0x3e0x7e_setup()(ILLEGAL functioname) setup_0x3e0x7e() 0x3e0x7e.pd_linux 0x3e0x7e_setup()(ILLEGAL functioname) setup_0x3e0x7e() ~.pd
Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
damnit. Any idea when that might be or a workaround? silent weeping From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of michael noble [loop...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:47 AM To: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Well the object creates when I run the version of PD that comes with it. Sent from my iPhone From the front page pf the website: About the PD distribution: PD patches for your iOS device must be made with PD vanilla (not Pd-extended), the basic distribution. However, in order to simulate the app on OSX (using OSC + UDP to communicate between PD and the MobMuPlat Editor), a few extra objects were needed, and so they've been included in this distribution, but they will not work if used in a patch in iOS. Also, [expr] and [expr~] do not work in the current iOS version; this will be changed in the next update. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
I will post the equations and hopefully people might weigh in on some suggestion to avoid the expr~ I guess pd in general might benefit from something thy does not carry the licensing/external issue Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 11:50 -0400, Patrick Pagano wrote: That's one of 20 expr~s that i need :-( I don't know what they do, but if they are similarly simple as your previous example, it should be straight-forward to replace them. Ask yourself what is easier to do: Make your patch portable (not dependent on expr family) or incorporate the expr stuff into the app you mentioned? I can't tell. Without knowing your situation in detail, I'd probably go for the former. Roman On 03/18/2013 11:01 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 13:52 +, Pagano, Patrick wrote: damnit. Any idea when that might be or a workaround? silent weeping expr if($f1-$f2==0, 0, 1) [!= ] ? Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
Dan said this on that list:: No, there is no, and probably wil be no libpd-extended. It's up to you to include and build external source code. Yes, expr~ is in. The license is BSD now. As for other things, try rjlib which aims to recreate many things currently in externals in pd-extended: https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib This is not a limitation as it's actually easier to do somethings directly in C/C++, etc is there a way to build expr~ for MobMuPLat and use it then? that is the only object i seem to need, there is sources and a makefile included in the PdVanilla for MMplat colleagues please advise. thanks pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Scott R. Looney [scottrloo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM To: Daniel Iglesia Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes peter brinkmann is the guy who who would know best, but i seem to remember pretty clearly that he stated somewhere [expr] and [expr~] were ok to use with libPD on the AppStore. in other words (i assume) they had been recompiled from source in a more compatible license. here's the bit that clearly states that the vanilla version of PD does not have the right version of [expr] and [expr~] this is older news from about 2011 i think: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/wiki/misc and here's the bit where they mention [expr] and [expr~] are now under LGPL, but it doesn't appear to solve the issue definitively: http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/1341/can-i-use-pd-extended-with-libpd/p1 the total solution if you want that specific functionality (that i am aware of) is to recompile [expr] and [expr~] from source and put it under a BSD or MIT license. the alternative is to redo that functionality with simple vanilla objects. there's a nice thread her on the PD forum about it: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-6980-way-rewrite-expr hope this helps somewhat, best, scott On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Iglesia daniel.igle...@gmail.commailto:daniel.igle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, (first time poster!) expr and expr~ can't be in a closed-source binary. (the libpd doc has some discussion of this I believe). Once I release MobMuPlat open source, I was hoping to include them in the binary+source at that point. However, I have to check the licensing issues to see if even that is allowed, as MobMuPlat is and will be under the BSD license. (if people are well versed in this issue, please feel free to chime in.) If they can't be included, then removing them from the pd-vanilla flavor in the distribution is probably a good idea, will do that. Best, Dan === www.danieliglesia.comhttp://www.danieliglesia.com www.iglesiaintermedia.comhttp://www.iglesiaintermedia.com On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Patrick Pagano wrote: That's one of 20 expr~s that i need :-( On 03/18/2013 11:01 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 13:52 +, Pagano, Patrick wrote: damnit. Any idea when that might be or a workaround? silent weeping expr if($f1-$f2==0, 0, 1) [!= ] ? Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
i have xcode and a fully mobmuplatted Arp Odyssey emulator i want to use. Is someone willing to hold my hand on this? I will start posting the expressions if not., but i really would love to have this thing working! Dan~ thanks for MobMuplat, it's quite fun and made me go purchase a ipad4, so i blame you for all this :-) pp ___ From: Daniel Iglesia [daniel.igle...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:52 PM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Scott R. Looney; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes (in addition to that last link, I meant plus of course Peter Brinkmann's straightforward description here https://github.com/libpd/pd-for-ios/wiki/ios ) On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Daniel Iglesia wrote: yes, technically it can be built for, and included with, MobMuPlat, since it comes with libpd, but needs to be built in xcode with all the other code for the MMP binary. I don't believe compiling the pd vanilla makefile for OSX or other platforms will get you anything. But my knowledge of these things is sketchy. https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/pure-data/extra/expr~/LICENSE.txt the version of expr~ and expr with libpd seems to have the LGPL (instead of the regular GPL), which should be compatible with BSD. So I will make an attempt to include them the next MMP update. (this is my primary reference for doing so http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/302/using-expr-in-libpd/p1 and so if anyone else has an easy solution for including expr, etc, in a xcode build of a libpd project, please advise!) (The open source release will have all of libpd's code+objects included with it, and so then it also would be straightforward for someone with greater knowledge than I ( and who has xcode and a developer's license) to enable and build those objects...although the reason I made MMP is so that people don't need to have those two things!) Best, Dan === www.danieliglesia.com www.iglesiaintermedia.com On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Dan said this on that list:: No, there is no, and probably wil be no libpd-extended. It's up to you to include and build external source code. Yes, expr~ is in. The license is BSD now. As for other things, try rjlib which aims to recreate many things currently in externals in pd-extended: https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib This is not a limitation as it's actually easier to do somethings directly in C/C++, etc is there a way to build expr~ for MobMuPLat and use it then? that is the only object i seem to need, there is sources and a makefile included in the PdVanilla for MMplat colleagues please advise. thanks pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Scott R. Looney [scottrloo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM To: Daniel Iglesia Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes peter brinkmann is the guy who who would know best, but i seem to remember pretty clearly that he stated somewhere [expr] and [expr~] were ok to use with libPD on the AppStore. in other words (i assume) they had been recompiled from source in a more compatible license. here's the bit that clearly states that the vanilla version of PD does not have the right version of [expr] and [expr~] this is older news from about 2011 i think: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/wiki/misc and here's the bit where they mention [expr] and [expr~] are now under LGPL, but it doesn't appear to solve the issue definitively: http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/1341/can-i-use-pd-extended-with-libpd/p1 the total solution if you want that specific functionality (that i am aware of) is to recompile [expr] and [expr~] from source and put it under a BSD or MIT license. the alternative is to redo that functionality with simple vanilla objects. there's a nice thread her on the PD forum about it: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-6980-way-rewrite-expr hope this helps somewhat, best, scott On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Iglesia daniel.igle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, (first time poster!) expr and expr~ can't be in a closed-source binary. (the libpd doc has some discussion of this I believe). Once I release MobMuPlat open source, I was hoping to include them in the binary+source at that point. However, I have to check the licensing issues to see if even that is allowed, as MobMuPlat is and will be under the BSD license. (if people are well versed in this issue, please feel free to chime in.) If they can't be included, then removing them from the pd-vanilla flavor in the distribution is probably a good idea, will do that. Best, Dan === www.danieliglesia.com www.iglesiaintermedia.com On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Patrick Pagano wrote: That's one of 20 expr~s that i need :-( On 03/18/2013 11:01 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 13:52 +
Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
here's one: [expr~ if($f2==0, $v1, 0); if ($f2==0, $v1) ] From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pagano, Patrick [p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:55 PM To: Daniel Iglesia Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes i have xcode and a fully mobmuplatted Arp Odyssey emulator i want to use. Is someone willing to hold my hand on this? I will start posting the expressions if not., but i really would love to have this thing working! Dan~ thanks for MobMuplat, it's quite fun and made me go purchase a ipad4, so i blame you for all this :-) pp ___ From: Daniel Iglesia [daniel.igle...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:52 PM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Scott R. Looney; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes (in addition to that last link, I meant plus of course Peter Brinkmann's straightforward description here https://github.com/libpd/pd-for-ios/wiki/ios ) On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Daniel Iglesia wrote: yes, technically it can be built for, and included with, MobMuPlat, since it comes with libpd, but needs to be built in xcode with all the other code for the MMP binary. I don't believe compiling the pd vanilla makefile for OSX or other platforms will get you anything. But my knowledge of these things is sketchy. https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/pure-data/extra/expr~/LICENSE.txt the version of expr~ and expr with libpd seems to have the LGPL (instead of the regular GPL), which should be compatible with BSD. So I will make an attempt to include them the next MMP update. (this is my primary reference for doing so http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/302/using-expr-in-libpd/p1 and so if anyone else has an easy solution for including expr, etc, in a xcode build of a libpd project, please advise!) (The open source release will have all of libpd's code+objects included with it, and so then it also would be straightforward for someone with greater knowledge than I ( and who has xcode and a developer's license) to enable and build those objects...although the reason I made MMP is so that people don't need to have those two things!) Best, Dan === www.danieliglesia.com www.iglesiaintermedia.com On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Dan said this on that list:: No, there is no, and probably wil be no libpd-extended. It's up to you to include and build external source code. Yes, expr~ is in. The license is BSD now. As for other things, try rjlib which aims to recreate many things currently in externals in pd-extended: https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib This is not a limitation as it's actually easier to do somethings directly in C/C++, etc is there a way to build expr~ for MobMuPLat and use it then? that is the only object i seem to need, there is sources and a makefile included in the PdVanilla for MMplat colleagues please advise. thanks pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Scott R. Looney [scottrloo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM To: Daniel Iglesia Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes peter brinkmann is the guy who who would know best, but i seem to remember pretty clearly that he stated somewhere [expr] and [expr~] were ok to use with libPD on the AppStore. in other words (i assume) they had been recompiled from source in a more compatible license. here's the bit that clearly states that the vanilla version of PD does not have the right version of [expr] and [expr~] this is older news from about 2011 i think: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/wiki/misc and here's the bit where they mention [expr] and [expr~] are now under LGPL, but it doesn't appear to solve the issue definitively: http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/1341/can-i-use-pd-extended-with-libpd/p1 the total solution if you want that specific functionality (that i am aware of) is to recompile [expr] and [expr~] from source and put it under a BSD or MIT license. the alternative is to redo that functionality with simple vanilla objects. there's a nice thread her on the PD forum about it: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-6980-way-rewrite-expr hope this helps somewhat, best, scott On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Iglesia daniel.igle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, (first time poster!) expr and expr~ can't be in a closed-source binary. (the libpd doc has some discussion of this I believe). Once I release MobMuPlat open source, I was hoping to include them in the binary+source at that point. However, I have to check the licensing issues to see if even that is allowed, as MobMuPlat is and will be under the BSD license. (if people are well versed in this issue, please feel free to chime in.) If they can't be included, then removing
Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
Dan i will gladly do testflight to try this i spent 12 hours making the ARP and i really want to test it at a show coming up let me know what to do and i'l testfly for you! patrick From: Daniel Iglesia [daniel.igle...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:17 PM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Scott R. Looney; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes I've actually just already gotten expr and expr~ working in my xcode project (easier than anticipated). I'm working on other elements of the next update over the next few days, so if you can wait about a week or two for the apple approval process to finish, then the next update should work for you. (If you use testflight, contact me off-list, and you can try my current build sooner than that) dan On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: i have xcode and a fully mobmuplatted Arp Odyssey emulator i want to use. Is someone willing to hold my hand on this? I will start posting the expressions if not., but i really would love to have this thing working! Dan~ thanks for MobMuplat, it's quite fun and made me go purchase a ipad4, so i blame you for all this :-) pp ___ From: Daniel Iglesia [daniel.igle...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:52 PM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Scott R. Looney; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes (in addition to that last link, I meant plus of course Peter Brinkmann's straightforward description here https://github.com/libpd/pd-for-ios/wiki/ios ) On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Daniel Iglesia wrote: yes, technically it can be built for, and included with, MobMuPlat, since it comes with libpd, but needs to be built in xcode with all the other code for the MMP binary. I don't believe compiling the pd vanilla makefile for OSX or other platforms will get you anything. But my knowledge of these things is sketchy. https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/pure-data/extra/expr~/LICENSE.txt the version of expr~ and expr with libpd seems to have the LGPL (instead of the regular GPL), which should be compatible with BSD. So I will make an attempt to include them the next MMP update. (this is my primary reference for doing so http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/302/using-expr-in-libpd/p1 and so if anyone else has an easy solution for including expr, etc, in a xcode build of a libpd project, please advise!) (The open source release will have all of libpd's code+objects included with it, and so then it also would be straightforward for someone with greater knowledge than I ( and who has xcode and a developer's license) to enable and build those objects...although the reason I made MMP is so that people don't need to have those two things!) Best, Dan === www.danieliglesia.com www.iglesiaintermedia.com On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Dan said this on that list:: No, there is no, and probably wil be no libpd-extended. It's up to you to include and build external source code. Yes, expr~ is in. The license is BSD now. As for other things, try rjlib which aims to recreate many things currently in externals in pd-extended: https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib This is not a limitation as it's actually easier to do somethings directly in C/C++, etc is there a way to build expr~ for MobMuPLat and use it then? that is the only object i seem to need, there is sources and a makefile included in the PdVanilla for MMplat colleagues please advise. thanks pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Scott R. Looney [scottrloo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM To: Daniel Iglesia Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes peter brinkmann is the guy who who would know best, but i seem to remember pretty clearly that he stated somewhere [expr] and [expr~] were ok to use with libPD on the AppStore. in other words (i assume) they had been recompiled from source in a more compatible license. here's the bit that clearly states that the vanilla version of PD does not have the right version of [expr] and [expr~] this is older news from about 2011 i think: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/wiki/misc and here's the bit where they mention [expr] and [expr~] are now under LGPL, but it doesn't appear to solve the issue definitively: http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/1341/can-i-use-pd-extended-with-libpd/p1 the total solution if you want that specific functionality (that i am aware of) is to recompile [expr] and [expr~] from source and put it under a BSD or MIT license. the alternative is to redo that functionality with simple vanilla objects. there's a nice thread her on the PD forum about it: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-6980-way-rewrite-expr hope this helps somewhat, best, scott On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM
[PD] Expression challenge 2013
Here they all Are everyone who helps will get a working version of my super Awesome Arp Patch :-) hahaha. mammies step up and espress yo-selves FZ Thingfish expr~ if($f3==0, ($v1 + 1) / 2, if($v20, 3, 0)) expr~ if($f3==0, $v2, 4.5*$v1/100) expr~ ((1 - $v1) - .5) * 2 expr~ if($v1 ($f4 - ($f5 * $f4 * if($f6==0, 0.15 * ($v3 + 1) / 2, 0.45 * $v2 / 100 ) )), 1, -1) expr~ if($v1==0, 0, $v1 + $f2*(1 - $v1)) expr if($f1==0, 0, $f2 + $f3) expr if($f1==0 || $f2==0, 1, 0) expr abs(1 - $f1) expr if($f2 $f3, $f3, $f2); if ($f2 $f3, $f2, $f3) expr if($f2!=0, $f3, if($f3==$f4, $f5, $f4)); if($f2!=0, $f3, if($f3==$f5, $f4, $f5)); expr if($f1=0, 0, 1) From: Pagano, Patrick Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:15 PM To: Daniel Iglesia Cc: pd-list Subject: RE: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes here's one: [expr~ if($f2==0, $v1, 0); if ($f2==0, $v1) ] From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pagano, Patrick [p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:55 PM To: Daniel Iglesia Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes i have xcode and a fully mobmuplatted Arp Odyssey emulator i want to use. Is someone willing to hold my hand on this? I will start posting the expressions if not., but i really would love to have this thing working! Dan~ thanks for MobMuplat, it's quite fun and made me go purchase a ipad4, so i blame you for all this :-) pp ___ From: Daniel Iglesia [daniel.igle...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:52 PM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Scott R. Looney; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes (in addition to that last link, I meant plus of course Peter Brinkmann's straightforward description here https://github.com/libpd/pd-for-ios/wiki/ios ) On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Daniel Iglesia wrote: yes, technically it can be built for, and included with, MobMuPlat, since it comes with libpd, but needs to be built in xcode with all the other code for the MMP binary. I don't believe compiling the pd vanilla makefile for OSX or other platforms will get you anything. But my knowledge of these things is sketchy. https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/pure-data/extra/expr~/LICENSE.txt the version of expr~ and expr with libpd seems to have the LGPL (instead of the regular GPL), which should be compatible with BSD. So I will make an attempt to include them the next MMP update. (this is my primary reference for doing so http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/302/using-expr-in-libpd/p1 and so if anyone else has an easy solution for including expr, etc, in a xcode build of a libpd project, please advise!) (The open source release will have all of libpd's code+objects included with it, and so then it also would be straightforward for someone with greater knowledge than I ( and who has xcode and a developer's license) to enable and build those objects...although the reason I made MMP is so that people don't need to have those two things!) Best, Dan === www.danieliglesia.com www.iglesiaintermedia.com On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Dan said this on that list:: No, there is no, and probably wil be no libpd-extended. It's up to you to include and build external source code. Yes, expr~ is in. The license is BSD now. As for other things, try rjlib which aims to recreate many things currently in externals in pd-extended: https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib This is not a limitation as it's actually easier to do somethings directly in C/C++, etc is there a way to build expr~ for MobMuPLat and use it then? that is the only object i seem to need, there is sources and a makefile included in the PdVanilla for MMplat colleagues please advise. thanks pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Scott R. Looney [scottrloo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM To: Daniel Iglesia Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes peter brinkmann is the guy who who would know best, but i seem to remember pretty clearly that he stated somewhere [expr] and [expr~] were ok to use with libPD on the AppStore. in other words (i assume) they had been recompiled from source in a more compatible license. here's the bit that clearly states that the vanilla version of PD does not have the right version of [expr] and [expr~] this is older news from about 2011 i think: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/wiki/misc and here's the bit where they mention [expr] and [expr~] are now under LGPL, but it doesn't appear to solve the issue definitively: http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/1341/can-i-use-pd-extended-with-libpd/p1 the total solution if you want that specific functionality (that i am aware of) is to recompile [expr
[PD] Syphonserver/client for pd
Helo Does anyne have a working syphonserver.pd_darwin? I had a version working with Gem92, but 93.x no worky i am hoping someone could share their lib I am on OSX obviously i would like to use the most recent pd-extendd release but i will roll back to 42-5 if someone has a working version i can use for an upcoming show pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] can't load pdp
get the working version from the pd-extended download pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of oscar santis [pelaosan...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:25 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] can't load pdp I can't load pdp in Pure Data 0.43.0-4 and Pure Data 0.43.4-extended. I work with Ubuntustudio 12.04 running in an Acer Aspire One. In vanilla I wrote pdp at startup setting and console says /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: /usr/lib/libgsl.so.0: undefined symbol: cblas_dasum pdp: can't load library I installed pd-pdp from repository and libgsl0ldbl Thanks -- óscar santis escultor, pintor, ruidista http://www.oscarsantis.cl http://www.flickr.com/oscarsantis http://www.soundcloud.com/oscarsantis tel: ++ 56 9 84280381 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Missing pdp objects in pd-extended
they are in the doc From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of dreamer [drea...@puikheid.nl] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:54 PM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] Missing pdp objects in pd-extended Installed from apt.puredata.infohttp://apt.puredata.info for wheezy (I run sid): pd-extended_0.43.4-1_i386.deb I was browsing the help and looking at pdp/examples/example01.pd (and others) I am missing: pdp_conv_sobel_edge pdp_motion_phase pdp_gradient pdp_blur pdp_grey pdp_saturation pdp_cheby3o pdp_save_png_sequence pdp_diff pdp_agc pdp_contrast pdp_motion_fade pdp_pps I don't know if these where ever part of pd-extended. Have they been removed? This makes most of the examples pretty useless. grtz, drmr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Kinect help ?
I have not seen it work on windows. Mac and Linux yes, but not windows. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Фывапр Олджэвич tofuc...@inbox.ru wrote: Dear List ! How to easily take data streams from Kinect xbox 360 to Windows PureData ? I need Depth map, skeleton, 3d-points map of objects and everything wich is possible ! Thanks ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Announcing PdParty
That's not my cup of C :-), I look forward to a binary to try Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: ... but if you do want to jump in the code, please do give me issues on Github etc. :D Thanks. On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Oh no. It's not ready for building. I'm going to use TestFlight and send out binaries people can run and try. I'm still adding some stuff now. The error sounds like you need to set the SDK. I'm building with the 6.1 SDK which you may not have. It's in the project build settings - Base SDK On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: The Xcode project build here fails because There is no SDK with thename or path 'iphoneos' pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.atmailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.atmailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pagano, Patrick [p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 1:08 PM To: Dan Wilcox; pd-list@iem.atmailto:pd-list@iem.at list Subject: Re: [PD] Announcing PdParty I just completed my first couple of iPad Pd patches with MobMuplat and it works well! I have been weaving some old abstractions i have had lying around into it. I will try PdParty! pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.atmailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.atmailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Dan Wilcox [danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:57 PM To: pd-list@iem.atmailto:pd-list@iem.at list Subject: [PD] Announcing PdParty Howdy all, Over Christmas break, I decided that making a swiss arm knife all-in-one cross-platform app to rule them all was not going to be feasible with all the other work I need to do for my thesishttp://robotcowboy.com/onwardtomars/, so I've shelved the OpenFrameworks-based robotcowboy apphttps://github.com/danomatika/robotcowboy for now. I've returned instead to PdPartyhttps://github.com/danomatika/PdParty, my port of DroidPartyhttp://droidparty.net/ which I've rewritten in Obj-C as a universal iOS app. It currently supports the Pd-vanilla gui objects, CoreMIDI io, and has a built in WebDAV server for scene/patch management. The eventual goal is compatibility with DroidParty and RjDj scenes, but in the meantime, I need a new mobile platform for my songs. Yes, the gui design will be improved over time, for now I'm just trying to emulate the core gui stuff until everything is working. I'll be ready to send out beta testing invites in the next week, so please respond with an email address I can send the info to. Thanks! (And I just found out about MobMuPlathttp://music.columbia.edu/~daniglesia/mobmuplat/. What a crazy small world we live in.) Screenshots: Screen Shot 2013-03-04 at 1.08.28 PM.png Screen Shot 2013-03-04 at 12.59.37 PM.png Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com/ Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com/ Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Announcing PdParty
That sounds like a nice idea, do you have to sign up for beta testing Dan? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: No it won't. I'm using TestFlight: https://www.testflightapp.com/ You just signup download the app. I then add you to the project and you receive notifications when I push out a new version. You then use the TestFlight app to install it. On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:53 PM, batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.frmailto:dwanaf...@yahoo.fr wrote: Count me in ! The iDevice needs to be jailbroken, i guess. On 07/03/2013 18:57, Dan Wilcox wrote: Howdy all, Over Christmas break, I decided that making a swiss arm knife all-in-one cross-platform app to rule them all was not going to be feasible with all the other work I need to do for my thesishttp://robotcowboy.com/onwardtomars/, so I've shelved the OpenFrameworks-based robotcowboy apphttps://github.com/danomatika/robotcowboy for now. I've returned instead to PdPartyhttps://github.com/danomatika/PdParty, my port of DroidPartyhttp://droidparty.net/ which I've rewritten in Obj-C as a universal iOS app. It currently supports the Pd-vanilla gui objects, CoreMIDI io, and has a built in WebDAV server for scene/patch management. The eventual goal is compatibility with DroidParty and RjDj scenes, but in the meantime, I need a new mobile platform for my songs. Yes, the gui design will be improved over time, for now I'm just trying to emulate the core gui stuff until everything is working. I'll be ready to send out beta testing invites in the next week, so please respond with an email address I can send the info to. Thanks! (And I just found out about MobMuPlathttp://music.columbia.edu/%7Edaniglesia/mobmuplat/. What a crazy small world we live in.) Screenshots: Mail Attachment.png Mail Attachment.png Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Announcing PdParty
I have been opening a bunch of my sound Apps I made before extended to see if they Open properly with vanilla and I have some Fun ones to share. A friend gave me their old ipad1 And I have successfully crashed it several times now I can imagine the day with Gem running an Hdmi out Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Scott R. Looney scottrloo...@gmail.commailto:scottrloo...@gmail.com wrote: put me down for interest as well! thanks! scott On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I'll send out the info to everyone who responds to this thread. Thanks! Telbat ym morf tnes. --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: That sounds like a nice idea, do you have to sign up for beta testing Dan? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.commailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: No it won't. I'm using TestFlight: https://www.testflightapp.com/ You just signup download the app. I then add you to the project and you receive notifications when I push out a new version. You then use the TestFlight app to install it. On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:53 PM, batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.frmailto:dwanaf...@yahoo.fr wrote: Count me in ! The iDevice needs to be jailbroken, i guess. On 07/03/2013 18:57, Dan Wilcox wrote: Howdy all, Over Christmas break, I decided that making a swiss arm knife all-in-one cross-platform app to rule them all was not going to be feasible with all the other work I need to do for my thesishttp://robotcowboy.com/onwardtomars/, so I've shelved the OpenFrameworks-based robotcowboy apphttps://github.com/danomatika/robotcowboy for now. I've returned instead to PdPartyhttps://github.com/danomatika/PdParty, my port of DroidPartyhttp://droidparty.net/ which I've rewritten in Obj-C as a universal iOS app. It currently supports the Pd-vanilla gui objects, CoreMIDI io, and has a built in WebDAV server for scene/patch management. The eventual goal is compatibility with DroidParty and RjDj scenes, but in the meantime, I need a new mobile platform for my songs. Yes, the gui design will be improved over time, for now I'm just trying to emulate the core gui stuff until everything is working. I'll be ready to send out beta testing invites in the next week, so please respond with an email address I can send the info to. Thanks! (And I just found out about MobMuPlathttp://music.columbia.edu/%7Edaniglesia/mobmuplat/. What a crazy small world we live in.) Screenshots: Mail Attachment.png Mail Attachment.png Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.comhttp://danomatika.com robotcowboy.comhttp://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] found how to reproduce Pd-ext 0.43.4 Tcl Invalid Command Name error
start pd with the flag -stderr i had the same plague with my GEM patches for a week until Iohannes ahd Hans noted a solution pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Marco Donnarumma [de...@thesaddj.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] found how to reproduce Pd-ext 0.43.4 Tcl Invalid Command Name error hey, dunno if you remember, but I still have this error (below) and now I managed to make a small patch that reproduces it (attached). It seems related to the Hide flag for a 2nd level nested GOP patch. it'd be great if somebody could test it on linux and mac. I'm on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04, pd-ext 0.43.4 how to reproduce: - launch MAIN-graph-bug.pd - click the bang to open a subpatch (if it doesn't at startup) - close the subpatch - close MAIN-graph-bug.pd at this point Pd throws the error as below. Only the GUI freezes, the patch is unusable and have to kill it, by closing pd. (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x996ebd0.c while executing .x996ebd0.c delete graph996f4b0i0 (uplevel body line 1) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd How to avoid it: - launch MAIN-graph-bug.pd - click the bang to open a subpatch (if it doesn't at startup) - open the subpatch - open the further subpatch anlz.scope~ - flag hide object name and argument - save -close pd - restart the patch and the error disappear It is worth noting that the error I get with the Xth Sense software looks similar but has different tags (see below). And I can't reproduce this one error using a subpatch including a graph or iem_image (which I use in the Xth Sense) (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x9c4d3b0.c while executing .x9c4d3b0.c create image 900 776 -image a4304c0PHOTOIMAGE -tags a4304c0PHOTO (uplevel body line 283) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd \ should i submit a different bug report or add to the one I did already? thanks in advance for any hint, this is forcing me to still use pd-ext 0.42.5 during my workshop, which is a shame :) -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] help with pd error
It was driving me batty. From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Thomas Mayer [tho...@residuum.org] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:19 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] help with pd error On 04.03.2013 18:56, Patrick Pagano wrote: After adding -stderr flag to pd-extended, i cannot seem to replicate the error again? weird scenes inside the coalmine. Actually, that is pretty normal, as starting Pd with -stderr does not post anything to the Pd console (which is parsed in Tcl), but to bash (or your shell or cmd.exe). There is an open bug related to it: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=3589171group_id=55736 Best regards, Thomas On 03/04/2013 12:40 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2013-03-04 18:29, Patrick Pagano wrote: i guess i could remove the links in the .objs that reference the .mtls but this is wierd that it is generatingthe error when i click on a hradio selector. could you post the patch? could you try tunning the patch with -stderr to get the full error message? fmsdfr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- From the perspective of communication analysis, government is not an instrument of law and order, but of law and disorder. (Gracchus Gruad in: Robert Shea Robert A. Wilson, The Golden Apple) http://www.residuum.org/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] TCL bug-question
i am having a horrible TCL bug crashing files with pd extended 64 bit Ubuntu 64 12.04 LTS with Hradio buttons [at least the suspects] How do i generate a full window dump? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd downloads
Is pd downloads unavailable? i cannot seem to connect to the downloads page thank you pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OT: Lightest Fastest Linux Window Manager
Hello I am setting up a Asus netbook for Pure Data/Gem/pidip and would like to not load the hoggish unity or even gnome seems to slow this little guy down. Can linux users suggest a window manager that might serve me best for this purpose. Thank you in Advance. Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem and font support
Hello I am using latest pd-extended and vanilla on Ubuntu 12.04 on a macbook pro BOTH seem to give the same message. I have used both GEM from sources and the ones provided by extended and they both complain. I am sure I can install fftgl files and then recompile? I just got everything I thought working with even DV4l grabbing my canopus but I do need to show text3d in lecture pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Hans-Christoph Steiner Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:51 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Gem and font support On 02/13/2013 07:53 PM, Jack wrote: Le 13/02/2013 18:02, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : When I run text3D, I get [text3d] Gem has been compiled without Font-support! I would like this but I wonder why it was not included in the pd-extended build I guess I can re-compile my sources to get it, but is there a reason for this? pp Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello, Definitely you don't have libftgl-dev installed. Install it and then ./configure + make. After ./configure, you can check if FTGL will be OK or not. ++ Jack All of the Debian, Ubuntu and Mac OS X build machines have libftgl-dev installed. And libftgl-dev is listed as a Build-Depends of the pd-extended package. .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: Lightest Fastest Linux Window Manager
I have a little Asus with an atom processor and my Gem patches are noticeably faster with fluxbox so far. Anything quicker still? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edumailto:i...@vt.edu wrote: Unity is fine. We use it in L2Ork without any notable problems... On Feb 14, 2013, at 19:01, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.commailto:ja...@4thharmonic.com wrote: I use TWM on Arch Linux but it's very basic Quoth Pagano, Patrick, on 14/02/2013 18:40: Hello I am setting up a Asus netbook for Pure Data/Gem/pidip and would like to not load the hoggish unity or even gnome seems to slow this little guy down. Can linux users suggest a window manager that might serve me best for this purpose. Thank you in Advance. Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM and canopus/Sony Media Converter--linux
Hello I have a Sony Media Converter from the Ancient Days and a newer Caopus ADVC Analog to Digital Box and I would like to use it in GEM if possible. pix_video does not see it at all. If I run dvgrab-- it grabs frames so I can confirm that it actually works on ubuntu. Is there a way to get this device(2) to work in GEM? Thanks in advance Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM and canopus/Sony Media Converter--linux
Sorry that should have been device(s) Both work with dvgrab neither currently with GEM Where do I get that gem-plugin from Thanks -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-02-13 17:12, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Hello I have a Sony Media Converter from the Ancient Days and a newer Caopus ADVC Analog to Digital Box and I would like to use it in GEM if possible. pix_video does not see it at all. If I run dvgrab-- it grabs frames so I can confirm that it actually works on ubuntu. Is there a way to get this device(2) to work in GEM? what's this device(2)? only the canopus or both? anyhow: i have an ADVC110 on my desk, and it used to work fine with Gem (just checked). since it really is a DV-device, you will obviously need videoDV support for Gem (apt-get install gem-plugin-dv4l). then it should show up as something like /dev/fw1 fmgsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEbv0YACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT5HgCfVcafv6csBFO09r1rELaMi+hY 1xYAn2LmAkvW75lnf3DIN146ISlGzRJk =xpQD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM and canopus/Sony Media Converter--linux
That does not seem to work. Do I need to explicitly load the .so? -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of IOhannes m zmoelnig Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:36 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] GEM and canopus/Sony Media Converter--linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-02-13 17:34, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Where do I get that gem-plugin from [...] (apt-get install gem-plugin-dv4l). then it should show up as something like /dev/fw1 gmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEbwO0ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRXcQCgg3g43Bs2HOpVVDF2pw43go43 lTsAnjO0anVhQS/y7aqCnS7zM/Vap0Fv =r81q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM and canopus/Sony Media Converter--linux
You were 100% correct and I need to link it to my version of Gem. Thanks for the help with this. I have one more question but it's about font support -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of IOhannes m zmoelnig Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:54 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] GEM and canopus/Sony Media Converter--linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-02-13 17:49, Pagano, Patrick wrote: That does not seem to work. Do I need to explicitly load the .so? no, you should not need to: Gem searches for all available plugins in the folder where the Gem binary resides. the installed plugin will thus work for the standard Gem installation of Debian (both Gem and the plugin live in /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem), but it won't work out-of-the-box for your private installations of Gem (in which case you might want to symlink the gem_videoDV4L.so to the location of your Gem-binary) it would also help if you could provide output of the pd-console (preferably in verbose mode) and the terminal, when ding something as simple as: - - start Pd, load Gem, create [pix_video] amdrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEbxR4ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSxlQCghPZDRC1MuwBrtmro/09+6txn 3R4AoOl8O07TMzBw+8yM196Cjbr3tTP2 =Q69X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem and font support
When I run text3D, I get [text3d] Gem has been compiled without Font-support! I would like this but I wonder why it was not included in the pd-extended build I guess I can re-compile my sources to get it, but is there a reason for this? pp Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RPi - GEM openGL
I think pdp_xv might be? I am pretty sure pdp_glx and pdp_sdl are GL based -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Charles Goyard Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:13 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] RPi - GEM openGL Hi, João de Brito Rocha Reis Vidigal wrote: So it seems that this is a contemporary matter going on. GEM doesn't work on openGL ES... The thing is, I need a GEM window (or so I think!) to do this. Is there ANY work around this issue? Ideas? Plans? Jokes!!??? Just a shot in the dark, doesn't pdp have a window that can work without opengl ? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error
The last stable release of pd-extended with GEM does not produce this error, so while I am very familiar with updating my graphics driver I have to ask people to look at how Gem is compiled for the new version. Teaching workshops or classes with that GL error filling the Main pd window is going to panic students and new users. pp From: Jack [mailto:j...@rybn.org] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:09 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error Le 09/02/2013 22:02, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : It's every Gem patch. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jack j...@rybn.orgmailto:j...@rybn.org wrote: Le 08/02/2013 22:05, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : When Running Gem in 0.43.4-extended on Windows 7 64 bit I gets L: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant How do I remedy this? Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello Patrick, I guess you opened a patch with Gem content inside ? Is it possible to get it on this list ? This message can come from different problem on different system/driver. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Maybe a problem of graphic card/driver. What is your configuration on your Windows (graphic card ?). Your graphic card driver is up to date ? ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error(s)
Hello I want to be clear that this is on Windows7 64 bit SP1 with a ATI AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series with the Latest Drivers I have tested pd-vanilla with each of the Gem 93 releases [Gem 0.93.0, 0.93.1 0.93.3] Each produces the GL:invalid Enumerant message to the Main Pd window Gem Version 0.92.3 does not produce the message. From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Pagano, Patrick Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:25 AM To: Jack Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error The last stable release of pd-extended with GEM does not produce this error, so while I am very familiar with updating my graphics driver I have to ask people to look at how Gem is compiled for the new version. Teaching workshops or classes with that GL error filling the Main pd window is going to panic students and new users. pp From: Jack [mailto:j...@rybn.org] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:09 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: pd-list@iem.atmailto:pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error Le 09/02/2013 22:02, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : It's every Gem patch. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jack j...@rybn.orgmailto:j...@rybn.org wrote: Le 08/02/2013 22:05, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : When Running Gem in 0.43.4-extended on Windows 7 64 bit I gets L: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant How do I remedy this? Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello Patrick, I guess you opened a patch with Gem content inside ? Is it possible to get it on this list ? This message can come from different problem on different system/driver. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Maybe a problem of graphic card/driver. What is your configuration on your Windows (graphic card ?). Your graphic card driver is up to date ? ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error
By last stable I mean 42.5 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Pagano, Patrick Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:25 AM To: Jack Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error The last stable release of pd-extended with GEM does not produce this error, so while I am very familiar with updating my graphics driver I have to ask people to look at how Gem is compiled for the new version. Teaching workshops or classes with that GL error filling the Main pd window is going to panic students and new users. pp From: Jack [mailto:j...@rybn.org] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:09 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: pd-list@iem.atmailto:pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error Le 09/02/2013 22:02, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : It's every Gem patch. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jack j...@rybn.orgmailto:j...@rybn.org wrote: Le 08/02/2013 22:05, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : When Running Gem in 0.43.4-extended on Windows 7 64 bit I gets L: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant How do I remedy this? Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello Patrick, I guess you opened a patch with Gem content inside ? Is it possible to get it on this list ? This message can come from different problem on different system/driver. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Maybe a problem of graphic card/driver. What is your configuration on your Windows (graphic card ?). Your graphic card driver is up to date ? ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OT: vloopback
Hi I know this is kind of OT, but I am interested if people are successfully using vloopback on linux with pure data and lpmt or any other applications I would like to use it with Veejay, Pd and lpmt but I am having a few issues with setting it up Whati would like to do is take video OUT of Veejay and into pure data and then use lpmt to map it. pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdp_artoolkit
Has anyone got this to work? I have tried many source trees of ARToolkitPlus and I cannot seem to get the configure in the CVS of pidip to see ANY of them ./configure -with-artkp= does not seem to find it. Have you got it to compile? Where and which version of the artkp sources are you using? Thanks pp Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error
It's every Gem patch. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jack j...@rybn.orgmailto:j...@rybn.org wrote: Le 08/02/2013 22:05, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : When Running Gem in 0.43.4-extended on Windows 7 64 bit I gets L: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant How do I remedy this? Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello Patrick, I guess you opened a patch with Gem content inside ? Is it possible to get it on this list ? This message can come from different problem on different system/driver. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error
When Running Gem in 0.43.4-extended on Windows 7 64 bit I gets L: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant How do I remedy this? Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
It has a ton of effects that Gem does not have There is not really a comparison. Gem does not compete so to speak because Gem does other things supremely well -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of me.grimm Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:08 AM To: Hans-Christoph Steiner Cc: pd-list@iem.at; John Harrison Subject: Re: [PD] pidip i would wonder. what does pidip got that gem does not? and cant those things that it got that gem does not be added to gem via original gpl code? why have more than one vid lib at least in pdx m On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I'm not aware of that. Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code. The GPL does not allow more license restrictions, and the pidip license does just that. So that means that the GPL code included in pidip is still GPL, but the code that sevy contributed is under his license, and those two licenses conflict. So basically, pidip is not legal to distribute in binary form because of the conflicting licenses within itself. Whether you choose to ignore copyright law is your decision. I am personally fine with people distributing pidip as its own thing and using it with any of my code as long as: 1) the pidip distro is clearly marked as non-free 2) pidip is not bundled with my GPLed code (i.e. as part of pd-extended, pd-l2ork, etc.) .hc On 02/06/2013 11:44 AM, John Harrison wrote: I thought there was an earlier version of PiDiP which was and could be included with Pd-extended because it was released under an acceptable/compatible license? On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has clauses in its license that restrict what it can be used for. Including pidip in your package means your package can no longer be legally distributed as binaries since the pidip license terms conflict with the GPL license terms. .hc On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] managing freeframe and frei0r plugins WAS: pidip
One should be able to cycle through both freeframe and frei0r plugins without having to call it specifically Currently in Gem, there is not pix_frei0r, I would love if there was but there are over 100 plugins and there should be a number selector to select which one for example: [number 1-x] | [pix_frei0r] | [pix_film] And the same for pix_freeframe instead of for example Having to do [pix_freeframe bloom] Also one of the nicest features of pidip is the porting of effectTV effects http://effectv.sourceforge.net/ so again a [pix_effectTV], would be very desirable as well -Original Message- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:h...@at.or.at] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:09 PM To: me.grimm Cc: Pagano, Patrick; pd-list@iem.at; John Harrison Subject: managing freeframe and frei0r plugins WAS: pidip I don't use any of this stuff, but I'm happy help make it easy to use plugins. I imagine that pix_freeframe and pix_frei0r search the standard Pd path for plugins, or if not, could be made to without too much work. What are the particular issues there? .hc On 02/07/2013 01:02 PM, me.grimm wrote: if we take into account: pix_freeframe (it would be nice/easy if when initiaized it looked in pd's standard path for a freeframe folder maybe?) pix_frei0r (same deal) glsl effects (i never did quite figure out an easy way to chain effects) but other than effects that could be accomplished with these, what else? im curious because i have only used pidip a couple of times but have always been able to find a way to do what i desired in gem... somehow. m On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: It has a ton of effects that Gem does not have There is not really a comparison. Gem does not compete so to speak because Gem does other things supremely well -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of me.grimm Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:08 AM To: Hans-Christoph Steiner Cc: pd-list@iem.at; John Harrison Subject: Re: [PD] pidip i would wonder. what does pidip got that gem does not? and cant those things that it got that gem does not be added to gem via original gpl code? why have more than one vid lib at least in pdx m On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I'm not aware of that. Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code. The GPL does not allow more license restrictions, and the pidip license does just that. So that means that the GPL code included in pidip is still GPL, but the code that sevy contributed is under his license, and those two licenses conflict. So basically, pidip is not legal to distribute in binary form because of the conflicting licenses within itself. Whether you choose to ignore copyright law is your decision. I am personally fine with people distributing pidip as its own thing and using it with any of my code as long as: 1) the pidip distro is clearly marked as non-free 2) pidip is not bundled with my GPLed code (i.e. as part of pd-extended, pd-l2ork, etc.) .hc On 02/06/2013 11:44 AM, John Harrison wrote: I thought there was an earlier version of PiDiP which was and could be included with Pd-extended because it was released under an acceptable/compatible license? On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has clauses in its license that restrict what it can be used for. Including pidip in your package means your package can no longer be legally distributed as binaries since the pidip license terms conflict with the GPL license terms. .hc On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
That is supremely cool. Are there examples included for pdp_artoolkit? Students had a hard time with the fiducials at first and a simple example goes a long way. Currently, as I said I used the built version of pdp and it loads, when I compiled pdp_0.12-6 it gave a linking error with gsl Please let me know when you complete these, I would love to try them out. Also when are you going to include mu for pd :-) Cheers pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Ivica Ico Bukvic Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:27 AM Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pidip I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
Let me know how I can help/participate in this. I have a 5 screen theatre I would love to test this in when you get it built. This with Extended View Toolkit could be a very powerful tool(s) pp -Original Message- From: Ivica Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:51 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pidip On 02/06/2013 09:36 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: That is supremely cool. Are there examples included for pdp_artoolkit? Students had a hard time with the fiducials at first and a simple example goes a long way. There is one help patch that I tested and it worked (albeit tracking was a bit slow, which may be because my laptop is fairly low-end notebook/netbook). It is fairly straightforward, though. Documentation both for pdp and pidip could use an overhaul, though. Currently, as I said I used the built version of pdp and it loads, when I compiled pdp_0.12-6 it gave a linking error with gsl Please let me know when you complete these, I would love to try them out. If you are using Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, I can send you binaries until I clean things up. The versions I built are pdp 0.12.7 and pidip 0.12.30. AFAICT all externals built successfully. Also when are you going to include mu for pd :-) That's a thought :-). FWIW, mu should work out-of-box with netsend/receive but the texture sharing voodoo is not implemented yet... Cheers pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Ivica Ico Bukvic Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:27 AM Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pidip I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) disis.music.vt.edu l2ork.music.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
No I don't think so Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [PD] pidip I'm not aware of that. Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code. So he had the bit about not using it for military or government oppression from the very first release? -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
