Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[P. J. Alling]

The British pound stopped being convertible some years before that, and 
I'm old enough to remember when Nixon took us off the Gold Standard, and 
when Johnson before him stopped the average citizens converting to 
specie, until then the Treasury was required to issue a number of silver 
certificates. That's when the government started issuing "Johnson 
slugs", instead of silver coins.  That was 1964 by the way, by the way I 
never called them that, but I had friends and acquaintances who did.


On 9/10/2019 1:35 PM, John wrote:

I think they still call it that.

The "dollar" used to be a specific silver coin, and paper currency US 
dollars were "payable in silver" (or gold if you had gold-back 
dollars), but the dollar hasn't been "convertible to specie" for more 
than 50 years now (86 years for gold).


Interestingly enough, nowadays most specie backed U.S. currency is 
worth considerably more than face value, as are gold & silver coins.


I don't collect, but there are certain items I wanted just for the 
coolness factor ... I have an old "Greenback" dollar (even though "I 
don't give a damn ...") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TufDxRHetcI


... a Spanish (Mexican) Pillar dollar (pieces of eight),

a Saint-Gaudens Gold Double Eagle, the most beautiful coin ever minted
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Gaudens_double_eagle

... "Put a $20 gold piece on my watch chain so the lord will know I 
died standing pat" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zpa7u4vKdQ


 and a genuine, honest to god, U.S. Treasury Note $5 bill (says 
something like "redeemable at the U.S. Treasury" instead of Federal 
Reserve).


And, of course, I look at any change I get because occasionally a 
wheat penny or a silver quarter will still show up in it. Since those 
coins have been recalled and are no longer valid for use in commerce, 
I do my duty and remove any I find from circulation.





On 9/9/2019 20:34:14, P. J. Alling wrote:
The "Pound Sterling" is Britain's monetary unit, thought I don't know 
if it's still Sterling as it's no longer convertible to specie.






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Re: pentax sighting....

[Subash Jeyan]

thank you all for the kind words...


On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 13:48:48 -0400
John  wrote:

> Cool!
> 
> On 9/9/2019 09:29:31, Subash Jeyan wrote:
> > https://www.inaturalist.org/posts/27239-a-young-naturalist-in-india-finds-a-stunning-treehopper-observation-of-the-week-9-8-2019
> > 
> > the young 'naturalist' featured, i think, has a ks1 :)

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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I am quite sad to see John Bercow announced his resignation.  He is a class
act, and a joy to watch.  He knows how to play his role to the hilt.

ORDER!   ORDER!  O R D E R !

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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[Daniel J. Matyola]

https://youtu.be/46mO7jx3JEw

Do Re Mi
Woody Guthrie

Well, thousands of folks back east, they say,
Are leavin' home most ev'ry day,
And they're beatin' the hot old dusty way
To the California line.
'Cross the desert sands they roll,
A-getting out of that old dust bowl,
And they think they're going to a sugar bowl,
Here's what they find:
The police at the port of entry say,
"You're number fourteen thousand for today."
If you ain't got the do-re-mi, boys,
If you ain't got the do-re-mi,
Well you'd better go back to beautiful Texas,
Oklahoma, Georgia, Kansas, Tennessee.
California is a garden of Eden,
It's a paradise to live in or see.
But believe it or not,
You won't find it so hot,
If you ain't got the do-re-mi.
Well, if you want to buy you a home or farm,
That can't deal nobody harm,
Or take your vacations
By the…

Dan Matyola
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Re: RIP Robert Frank @ 94 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I saw the show at SFMOMA which had a huge number of marked up contact sheets. 
There's a book of the show which includes a lot of the same material: 

Looking In: Robert Frank's The Americans: Expanded Edition, Greenough, Sarah
  https://www.amazon.com/dp/3865218067/

I've two editions, my original and a later one from the 1980s. But not that 
one. I think I'll order it … :-)

G


> On Sep 10, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> I'm a big fan of The Americans, and just saw the announcement on Magnum's 
> Instagram feed.
> 
> People do give a great deal of credit for the success of The Americans as a 
> work in its own right as an object rather than just a collection of photos to 
> Robert Delpire, who did the layout and the first publication, in France.
> 
> I'd love to see the contact sheets.
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2019, at 15:18, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, 94 is a good long life at least... (though someone who is still alive 
>> at that age may disagee) I have "The Americans" in my library as well , and 
>> ya gotta know I'm a fan girl.
>> 
>> Fairly recently there was a nice retrospecitve at the Met that was 
>> splendid... showing some contact sheets with china marker circles indicating 
>> his choices for enlargement..
>> 
>> ann sad
>> 
>>> On 9/10/2019 9:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> Sad news today:
>>> 
>>> Robert Frank, Pivotal Figure in Documentary Photography, Is Dead at 94
>>> Mr. Frank’s visually raw and personally expressive style made him one of 
>>> the most influential photographers of the 20th century.
>>> 
>>>  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/arts/robert-frank-dead.html
>>> 
>>> His photographs turned my head and got under my skin in 1970. I still have 
>>> the used 1968 paperback edition of “The Americans” I bought at a bookstore 
>>> on Fordham Road in the Bronx, NY, then…
>>> 
>>> I am so happy I was able to see his talk at the Kantor Museum (Stanford 
>>> University, Palo Alto, CA 2014). My friend Linda called and invited me to 
>>> join her: she was photographing the talk for the University.
>>> 
>>>  https://flic.kr/p/q5vzFK
>>> 
>>> Godspeed, Robert!
>>> 
>>> G
>>> —
>>> Only in silence the word,
>>> only in dark the light,
>>> only in dying, life;
>>>  bright the hawk's flight
>>>  on the empty sky.
>>> 
>>> - "Song of Ea", Ursula K. Le Guin


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Re: RIP Robert Frank @ 94 - GDG

[Christine Aguila]

Sad to hear, but like everyone has said, a good long life to be sure.  I love 
his book The Americans.  I think I’ll pay homage and have another wander 
through the pages tonight.
 Christine 

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> On Sep 10, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> I'm a big fan of The Americans, and just saw the announcement on Magnum's 
> Instagram feed.
> 
> People do give a great deal of credit for the success of The Americans as a 
> work in its own right as an object rather than just a collection of photos to 
> Robert Delpire, who did the layout and the first publication, in France.
> 
> I'd love to see the contact sheets.
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2019, at 15:18, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, 94 is a good long life at least... (though someone who is still alive 
>> at that age may disagee) I have "The Americans" in my library as well , and 
>> ya gotta know I'm a fan girl.
>> 
>> Fairly recently there was a nice retrospecitve at the Met that was 
>> splendid... showing some contact sheets with china marker circles indicating 
>> his choices for enlargement..
>> 
>> ann sad
>> 
>>> On 9/10/2019 9:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> Sad news today:
>>> 
>>> Robert Frank, Pivotal Figure in Documentary Photography, Is Dead at 94
>>> Mr. Frank’s visually raw and personally expressive style made him one of 
>>> the most influential photographers of the 20th century.
>>> 
>>>  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/arts/robert-frank-dead.html
>>> 
>>> His photographs turned my head and got under my skin in 1970. I still have 
>>> the used 1968 paperback edition of “The Americans” I bought at a bookstore 
>>> on Fordham Road in the Bronx, NY, then…
>>> 
>>> I am so happy I was able to see his talk at the Kantor Museum (Stanford 
>>> University, Palo Alto, CA 2014). My friend Linda called and invited me to 
>>> join her: she was photographing the talk for the University.
>>> 
>>>  https://flic.kr/p/q5vzFK
>>> 
>>> Godspeed, Robert!
>>> 
>>> G
>>> —
>>> Only in silence the word,
>>> only in dark the light,
>>> only in dying, life;
>>>  bright the hawk's flight
>>>  on the empty sky.
>>> 
>>> - "Song of Ea", Ursula K. Le Guin
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Re: RIP Robert Frank @ 94 - GDG

[Bob Pdml]

I'm a big fan of The Americans, and just saw the announcement on Magnum's 
Instagram feed.

People do give a great deal of credit for the success of The Americans as a 
work in its own right as an object rather than just a collection of photos to 
Robert Delpire, who did the layout and the first publication, in France.

I'd love to see the contact sheets.

> On 10 Sep 2019, at 15:18, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Well, 94 is a good long life at least... (though someone who is still alive 
> at that age may disagee) I have "The Americans" in my library as well , and 
> ya gotta know I'm a fan girl.
> 
> Fairly recently there was a nice retrospecitve at the Met that was 
> splendid... showing some contact sheets with china marker circles indicating 
> his choices for enlargement..
> 
> ann sad
> 
>> On 9/10/2019 9:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> Sad news today:
>> 
>> Robert Frank, Pivotal Figure in Documentary Photography, Is Dead at 94
>> Mr. Frank’s visually raw and personally expressive style made him one of the 
>> most influential photographers of the 20th century.
>> 
>>   https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/arts/robert-frank-dead.html
>> 
>> His photographs turned my head and got under my skin in 1970. I still have 
>> the used 1968 paperback edition of “The Americans” I bought at a bookstore 
>> on Fordham Road in the Bronx, NY, then…
>> 
>> I am so happy I was able to see his talk at the Kantor Museum (Stanford 
>> University, Palo Alto, CA 2014). My friend Linda called and invited me to 
>> join her: she was photographing the talk for the University.
>> 
>>   https://flic.kr/p/q5vzFK
>> 
>> Godspeed, Robert!
>> 
>> G
>> —
>> Only in silence the word,
>> only in dark the light,
>> only in dying, life;
>>   bright the hawk's flight
>>   on the empty sky.
>> 
>> - "Song of Ea", Ursula K. Le Guin
> 
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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[Pat Temmerman]

... or Rich-Snob..


On 10/09/2019 17:57, John wrote:

On 9/9/2019 09:01:33, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:



And then there is Jacob William Rees-Mogg, a truly fascinating 
character.

mHe seem the embodiment of an American's warped conception of an
upper-class Brit, something conceived by Monty Python or nurtured by
Jeeves.


I believe in the U.K. he's known as "Rees-Smaug".




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Re: pentax sighting....

[John]

Cool!

On 9/9/2019 09:29:31, Subash Jeyan wrote:

https://www.inaturalist.org/posts/27239-a-young-naturalist-in-india-finds-a-stunning-treehopper-observation-of-the-week-9-8-2019

the young 'naturalist' featured, i think, has a ks1 :)

~subash




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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[William Robb]

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 9:59 AM John  wrote:

> All the more reason not to have to put with his shit in the meantime.
>

I think my irony meter just broke.


> On 9/9/2019 10:49:02, Alan C wrote:
> > Why worry? According to some pundits the 6th Extinction is only 3000
> days away.
> >
> > Alan C
> >
> > On 09-Sep-19 04:39 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> >> Am 09.09.19 um 15:01 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:
> >>
> >>> And then there is Jacob William Rees-Mogg, a truly fascinating
> character.
> >>
> >> Fascinating? Not really. Try pompous, arrogant, utterly obnoxious and,
> >> since last week's clownery in the Commons, brattish to boot.
> >>
> >> Ralf
> >>
>
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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[John]

I think they still call it that.

The "dollar" used to be a specific silver coin, and paper currency US dollars 
were "payable in silver" (or gold if you had gold-back dollars), but the dollar 
hasn't been "convertible to specie" for more than 50 years now (86 years for gold).


Interestingly enough, nowadays most specie backed U.S. currency is worth 
considerably more than face value, as are gold & silver coins.


I don't collect, but there are certain items I wanted just for the coolness 
factor ... I have an old "Greenback" dollar (even though "I don't give a damn 
...") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TufDxRHetcI


... a Spanish (Mexican) Pillar dollar (pieces of eight),

a Saint-Gaudens Gold Double Eagle, the most beautiful coin ever minted
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Gaudens_double_eagle

... "Put a $20 gold piece on my watch chain so the lord will know I died 
standing pat" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zpa7u4vKdQ


 and a genuine, honest to god, U.S. Treasury Note $5 bill (says something like 
"redeemable at the U.S. Treasury" instead of Federal Reserve).


And, of course, I look at any change I get because occasionally a wheat penny or 
a silver quarter will still show up in it. Since those coins have been recalled 
and are no longer valid for use in commerce, I do my duty and remove any I find 
from circulation.





On 9/9/2019 20:34:14, P. J. Alling wrote:
The "Pound Sterling" is Britain's monetary unit, thought I don't know if it's 
still Sterling as it's no longer convertible to specie.





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Re: Will Sigma stop making lenses for K-mount?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 10/9/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hell, where you going to find a manual focus Pentax-A 85mm f/1.4 that Cotty 
>hasn't already butchered to put it on a Canon?

Sadly they've all been butchered back to stock (sans aperture lever!) as I 
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Re: RIP Robert Frank @ 94 - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 10/9/19, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Robert Frank, Pivotal Figure in Documentary Photography, Is Dead at 94

Wow - a good innings.

Love his work.

RIP Robert Frank

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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[John]

All the more reason not to have to put with his shit in the meantime.

On 9/9/2019 10:49:02, Alan C wrote:

Why worry? According to some pundits the 6th Extinction is only 3000 days away.

Alan C

On 09-Sep-19 04:39 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 09.09.19 um 15:01 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:


And then there is Jacob William Rees-Mogg, a truly fascinating character.


Fascinating? Not really. Try pompous, arrogant, utterly obnoxious and,
since last week's clownery in the Commons, brattish to boot.

Ralf




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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[John]

On 9/9/2019 09:01:33, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:



And then there is Jacob William Rees-Mogg, a truly fascinating character.
mHe seem the embodiment of an American's warped conception of an
upper-class Brit, something conceived by Monty Python or nurtured by
Jeeves.


I believe in the U.K. he's known as "Rees-Smaug".


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Re: Will Sigma stop making lenses for K-mount?

[John]

Except that I am a PENTAX shooter. I don't need a "reason". I made that choice 
years ago and see no reason to change now.


But there are notable absences of some more desirable focal lengths & maximum 
apertures from the current Pentax lens roadmap.


Where you going to find a FULL FRAME auto-focus 85mm f/1.4 for your K-1?

Hell, where you going to find a manual focus Pentax-A 85mm f/1.4 that Cotty 
hasn't already butchered to put it on a Canon?8^)


For a while there, Sigma, Tamron & Tokina made some fairly desirable, high 
quality after-market lenses in Pentax mount, even some lenses Pentax never offered.


Lack of third party support is going to doom Pentax in the long run. I'm all 
right, because I managed to get everything I want (I know the difference between 
want & need) "while the gettin' was good", but how is Pentax going to attract a 
fair share of the few younger people who will want a REAL CAMERA instead of just 
an iPhone?


Who will want to buy Pentax when there's no "Pentax glass" left, and no third 
party support?


On 9/10/2019 12:10:20, William Robb wrote:

Considering that about the only reason in existence to use a Pentax body is
to shoot Pentax glass, I'm not seeing an issue. If you really want to use a
non Pentax lens, there are plenty of non Pentax bodies to choose from.

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:30 AM John  wrote:


As I noted in response to the other Sigma thread, Sigma stopped making
lenses in
Pentax KAF mounts several years back.

They've been selling off their stock of Pentax mount lenses on an "as
available"
basis for at least a year & none of their ART lenses have been available
in
Pentax mount.

On 9/9/2019 16:10:04, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Pentax Rumors has posted an information that Sigma will stop making

lenses for

Pentax K-mount, quoting Sigma's FB post in Czech:


https://pentaxrumors.com/2019/09/06/sigma-to-stop-making-lenses-for-pentax-k-mount/


If that's true, it is rather unfortunate for the Pentax community:
1. Those people who enjoy Sigma lenses, will not have that option

available any

more.
2. Even if you don't like Sigma lenses, this would also mean reduced

competition

for Pentax lenses. That means somewhat less pressure
for Pentax to innovate, and probably higher prices for Pentax lenses.

Now, that Tokina and Sigma are out, who's left? Tamron?
There are some non-AF lenses from other manufacturers, but that is a

different

market niche.


In any case, - if you were considering buying some Sigma lens, you

probably

shouldn't wait too long.

Cheers,

Igor





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Re: Will Sigma stop making lenses for K-mount?

[John]

It might be like the Co-Design deal Pentax had with Tokina where all the Pentax 
mount 12-20 lenses were branded Pentax, and Tokina only sold lenses for Nikon, 
Cannon & Sony under their own name.


The Pentax mount 15-30mm f/2.8 in PKaf mount is *ONLY* available from Pentax, 
but the same lens is available as a "Tamron SP 15-30mm f/2.8 Di VC USD" Lens for 
Nikon, Canon & Sony.


Tamron will likely continue to manufacture lenses in Pentax PKaf mount, but 
they'll only be available under the Pentax brand name.



On 9/9/2019 16:20:58, Gonz wrote:

I heard Tamron is out too.

--R

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:10 PM Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



Pentax Rumors has posted an information that Sigma will stop making lenses
for Pentax K-mount, quoting Sigma's FB post in Czech:
https://pentaxrumors.com/2019/09/06/sigma-to-stop-making-lenses-for-pentax-k-mount/

If that's true, it is rather unfortunate for the Pentax community:
1. Those people who enjoy Sigma lenses, will not have that option
available any more.
2. Even if you don't like Sigma lenses, this would also mean reduced
competition for Pentax lenses. That means somewhat less pressure
for Pentax to innovate, and probably higher prices for Pentax lenses.

Now, that Tokina and Sigma are out, who's left? Tamron?
There are some non-AF lenses from other manufacturers, but that is a
different market niche.


In any case, - if you were considering buying some Sigma lens, you
probably shouldn't wait too long.

Cheers,

Igor




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Re: Will Sigma stop making lenses for K-mount?

[William Robb]

Considering that about the only reason in existence to use a Pentax body is
to shoot Pentax glass, I'm not seeing an issue. If you really want to use a
non Pentax lens, there are plenty of non Pentax bodies to choose from.

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:30 AM John  wrote:

> As I noted in response to the other Sigma thread, Sigma stopped making
> lenses in
> Pentax KAF mounts several years back.
>
> They've been selling off their stock of Pentax mount lenses on an "as
> available"
> basis for at least a year & none of their ART lenses have been available
> in
> Pentax mount.
>
> On 9/9/2019 16:10:04, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> >
> > Pentax Rumors has posted an information that Sigma will stop making
> lenses for
> > Pentax K-mount, quoting Sigma's FB post in Czech:
> >
> https://pentaxrumors.com/2019/09/06/sigma-to-stop-making-lenses-for-pentax-k-mount/
> >
> > If that's true, it is rather unfortunate for the Pentax community:
> > 1. Those people who enjoy Sigma lenses, will not have that option
> available any
> > more.
> > 2. Even if you don't like Sigma lenses, this would also mean reduced
> competition
> > for Pentax lenses. That means somewhat less pressure
> > for Pentax to innovate, and probably higher prices for Pentax lenses.
> >
> > Now, that Tokina and Sigma are out, who's left? Tamron?
> > There are some non-AF lenses from other manufacturers, but that is a
> different
> > market niche.
> >
> >
> > In any case, - if you were considering buying some Sigma lens, you
> probably
> > shouldn't wait too long.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Igor
> >
> >
>
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Re: Long Glass Adventures

[lrc]

So what did the 600 set you back?

On September 10, 2019 8:21:46 AM PDT, John  wrote:
>On 9/8/2019 20:42:09, Dale H. Cook wrote:
>> I have stolen only a little time to work with my long glass for
>shooting 
>> hummingbirds. During the first try my old Focal tripod (don't laugh!
>- I have to 
>> do this on the cheap) proved woefully inadequate to handle the load
>of so much 
>> lens. Results from the first session were, not surprisingly, woeful.
>Today I had 
>> another try, first with the old Focal, but that try ended when the
>tripod broke 
>> while I was moving it - it really was overloaded. In the time since
>the first 
>> try I found another old Focal tripod, but much beefier, at Goodwill,
>and it was 
>> a significant improvement.
>> 
>
>If there's a good independent camera store around, check with them &
>see if 
>someone has traded in an old set of Gitzo or Manfrotto tripod legs. I
>got a 
>great aluminum Gitzo CHEAP when someone traded it in for a carbon fiber
>model.
>
>
>OR ... KEH also sells tripods. A quick perusal turned up a set of 
>Bogen/Manfrotto 3021 legs for $84 (and other stuff equally discounted).
>
>https://www.keh.com/shop/tripods-bogen-manfrotto-3021-3-sec-chr-26-71-717276.html
>
>https://www.keh.com/shop/manfrotto-808rc4-3-way-tripod-head-231927.html
>
>https://www.keh.com/shop/manfrotto-229-3d-super-pro-head-231953.html
>
>... and up until about 5 minutes ago, they had a:
>
>Pentax 600mm F/4 SMC FA* ED IF K Mount Autofocus Lens {43 Drop-In}
>Built-In Hood
>
>EX condition With Caps, Case, 43mm Filter Set (Normal, Cloudy,
>Skylight, UV, 
>O56, R60, Y48)
>
>
>Thank you for posting something that made me look at KEH's site at just
>the 
>right time today.
>
>Anyone want to buy a Sigma BIGMA 50-500 in PKAF mount?
>
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Re: Will Sigma stop making lenses for K-mount?

[John]

As I noted in response to the other Sigma thread, Sigma stopped making lenses in 
Pentax KAF mounts several years back.


They've been selling off their stock of Pentax mount lenses on an "as available" 
basis for at least a year & none of their ART lenses have been available in 
Pentax mount.


On 9/9/2019 16:10:04, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Pentax Rumors has posted an information that Sigma will stop making lenses for 
Pentax K-mount, quoting Sigma's FB post in Czech:

https://pentaxrumors.com/2019/09/06/sigma-to-stop-making-lenses-for-pentax-k-mount/

If that's true, it is rather unfortunate for the Pentax community:
1. Those people who enjoy Sigma lenses, will not have that option available any 
more.
2. Even if you don't like Sigma lenses, this would also mean reduced competition 
for Pentax lenses. That means somewhat less pressure

for Pentax to innovate, and probably higher prices for Pentax lenses.

Now, that Tokina and Sigma are out, who's left? Tamron?
There are some non-AF lenses from other manufacturers, but that is a different 
market niche.



In any case, - if you were considering buying some Sigma lens, you probably 
shouldn't wait too long.


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Re: Long Glass Adventures

[John]

On 9/8/2019 20:42:09, Dale H. Cook wrote:
I have stolen only a little time to work with my long glass for shooting 
hummingbirds. During the first try my old Focal tripod (don't laugh! - I have to 
do this on the cheap) proved woefully inadequate to handle the load of so much 
lens. Results from the first session were, not surprisingly, woeful. Today I had 
another try, first with the old Focal, but that try ended when the tripod broke 
while I was moving it - it really was overloaded. In the time since the first 
try I found another old Focal tripod, but much beefier, at Goodwill, and it was 
a significant improvement.




If there's a good independent camera store around, check with them & see if 
someone has traded in an old set of Gitzo or Manfrotto tripod legs. I got a 
great aluminum Gitzo CHEAP when someone traded it in for a carbon fiber model.



OR ... KEH also sells tripods. A quick perusal turned up a set of 
Bogen/Manfrotto 3021 legs for $84 (and other stuff equally discounted).


https://www.keh.com/shop/tripods-bogen-manfrotto-3021-3-sec-chr-26-71-717276.html

https://www.keh.com/shop/manfrotto-808rc4-3-way-tripod-head-231927.html

https://www.keh.com/shop/manfrotto-229-3d-super-pro-head-231953.html

... and up until about 5 minutes ago, they had a:

Pentax 600mm F/4 SMC FA* ED IF K Mount Autofocus Lens {43 Drop-In} Built-In Hood

EX condition With Caps, Case, 43mm Filter Set (Normal, Cloudy, Skylight, UV, 
O56, R60, Y48)



Thank you for posting something that made me look at KEH's site at just the 
right time today.


Anyone want to buy a Sigma BIGMA 50-500 in PKAF mount?

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Re: bye bye Sigma

[Gonz]

Yup, been looking to get some of their Art series, but very few were
made.  So its official now.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:38 PM John  wrote:
>
> That's not really news.
>
> It's been going on for a while now. None of their newer "Art" lenses have been
> available in Pentax Kaf mount. And all their older Pentax mount lenses have 
> been
> on an "as available" basis for several years now.
>
> On 9/9/2019 15:29:26, Gonz wrote:
> > https://www.dpreview.com/news/2688046075/sigma-halts-production-of-pentax-k-mount-lenses-to-put-its-focus-on-mirrorless
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge

[Ken Waller]

Must be a pretty stout bridge to put up with all those impacts.
I’ve seen a few around here where they had to rebuild the bridge.


-Original Message-
>From: John 
>Subject: Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
>
>I've actually seen them try that on the 11'8" bridge in the video.
>
>Where I went to High School is about 3 blocks north of where that bridge is 
>located. My father's office was about 4 blocks south of there.
>
>Before I had a driver's license, I'd walk down to his office every day after 
>school to catch a ride home with him when he got off work. I walked up Gregson 
>Street almost every day on the way to my father's office (actually to where 
>his 
>car was parked so I could dump off my books).
>
>One time, an 18 wheeler got stuck under there & they were trying to grease the 
>roof back it out without tearing it up any more than it already was, but it 
>wasn't working.
>
>Finally, some smart-Alec kid asked them why they didn't just let the air out 
>of 
>the trailer tires to lower the trailer.
>
>I wish I could say I was that smart-Alec kid, but I'm not that smart.
>
>
>On 9/8/2019 13:23:41, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Maybe they should try lubrication !
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: John 
>>> Subject: Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
>>>
>>> On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote:
 This could be fixed with signage.  There's a low underpass on the former 
 NY, NH,
 and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor 
 trailers
 used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck.  Signs were 
 place
 at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have
 worked.  Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in 
 several years.

>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw
>>>
>>>
 On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge
> was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways.
> The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge 
> based
> on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they
> realized they could not cross the bridge.  This could cause huge back-ups.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
>
>> A pretty scene, but obviously of another era.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>>>
>>> The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load
>> bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks.
>>> Alan C
>>>
 On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over
>> the
 NJ TRANSIT tracks.  A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of
 Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition,
 requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are
 arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the
 crossing.  In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining
 neighborhoods.
    I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit 
 interesting.


>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge
 K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
 Comments are vid and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge

[John]

On 9/9/2019 09:00:21, Adam Montoya wrote:

On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:45 PM John  wrote:


On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote:

This could be fixed with signage.  There's a low underpass on the former

NY, NH,

and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor

trailers

used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck.  Signs

were place

at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to

have

worked.  Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in

several years.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw



11'8" is great.  That compilation video is a bit outdated though. It

doesn't include this beauty that was posted this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvxDhgDjVCA





All I can say is "WOW!"

That's the farthest I've ever seen an 18 wheeler get stuck under there. Usually 
they tried to slly squeeze under there and got stuck**.


Gregson is a one way street & they get down to where the bridge is and can't 
make the tight turn left onto W. Peabody St.


One of the problems is commercial traffic from Main St turns south on Gregson to 
get out of downtown, and there are no signs on Main St. warning drivers about 
the low bridge BEFORE they make the turn.


https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0001272,-78.9092094,3a,75y,228.86h,84.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZgxawPsag0UY-fpmd-eFlw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

But that guy was not only ignoring the bridge warnings, he was FLYING. The speed 
limit through there is only 25 mph (40 kmph) and he had to have been doing at 
least 50.


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Re: RIP Robert Frank @ 94 - GDG

[ann sanfedele]

Well, 94 is a good long life at least... (though someone who is still 
alive at that age may disagee) I have "The Americans" in my library as 
well , and ya gotta know I'm a fan girl.


Fairly recently there was a nice retrospecitve at the Met that was 
splendid... showing some contact sheets with china marker circles 
indicating his choices for enlargement..


ann sad

On 9/10/2019 9:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Sad news today:

Robert Frank, Pivotal Figure in Documentary Photography, Is Dead at 94
Mr. Frank’s visually raw and personally expressive style made him one of the 
most influential photographers of the 20th century.

   https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/arts/robert-frank-dead.html

His photographs turned my head and got under my skin in 1970. I still have the 
used 1968 paperback edition of “The Americans” I bought at a bookstore on 
Fordham Road in the Bronx, NY, then…

I am so happy I was able to see his talk at the Kantor Museum (Stanford 
University, Palo Alto, CA 2014). My friend Linda called and invited me to join 
her: she was photographing the talk for the University.

   https://flic.kr/p/q5vzFK

Godspeed, Robert!

G
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only in dark the light,
only in dying, life;
   bright the hawk's flight
   on the empty sky.

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Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge

[John]

I've actually seen them try that on the 11'8" bridge in the video.

Where I went to High School is about 3 blocks north of where that bridge is 
located. My father's office was about 4 blocks south of there.


Before I had a driver's license, I'd walk down to his office every day after 
school to catch a ride home with him when he got off work. I walked up Gregson 
Street almost every day on the way to my father's office (actually to where his 
car was parked so I could dump off my books).


One time, an 18 wheeler got stuck under there & they were trying to grease the 
roof back it out without tearing it up any more than it already was, but it 
wasn't working.


Finally, some smart-Alec kid asked them why they didn't just let the air out of 
the trailer tires to lower the trailer.


I wish I could say I was that smart-Alec kid, but I'm not that smart.


On 9/8/2019 13:23:41, Ken Waller wrote:

Maybe they should try lubrication !


-Original Message-

From: John 
Subject: Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge

On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote:

This could be fixed with signage.  There's a low underpass on the former NY, NH,
and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor trailers
used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck.  Signs were place
at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have
worked.  Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in several 
years.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw



On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge
was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways.
The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge based
on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they
realized they could not cross the bridge.  This could cause huge back-ups.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


A pretty scene, but obviously of another era.

Paul


On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C  wrote:

The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load

bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks.

Alan C


On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over

the

NJ TRANSIT tracks.  A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of
Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition,
requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are
arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the
crossing.  In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining
neighborhoods.
   I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting.



http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge

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RIP Robert Frank @ 94 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Sad news today: 

Robert Frank, Pivotal Figure in Documentary Photography, Is Dead at 94
Mr. Frank’s visually raw and personally expressive style made him one of the 
most influential photographers of the 20th century.

  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/arts/robert-frank-dead.html

His photographs turned my head and got under my skin in 1970. I still have the 
used 1968 paperback edition of “The Americans” I bought at a bookstore on 
Fordham Road in the Bronx, NY, then…

I am so happy I was able to see his talk at the Kantor Museum (Stanford 
University, Palo Alto, CA 2014). My friend Linda called and invited me to join 
her: she was photographing the talk for the University. 

  https://flic.kr/p/q5vzFK

Godspeed, Robert! 

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  bright the hawk's flight
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Re: pentax sighting....

[Alan C]

Well done, Adit.  Subash - you have trained him well - a real chip off 
the old block!


Alan C

On 09-Sep-19 03:29 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

https://www.inaturalist.org/posts/27239-a-young-naturalist-in-india-finds-a-stunning-treehopper-observation-of-the-week-9-8-2019

the young 'naturalist' featured, i think, has a ks1 :)

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Re: pentax sighting....

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent article! 

Paul

> On Sep 10, 2019, at 5:05 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
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> Great article, congrats! A fascinating face of that tree hopper.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2019-09-09 om 15:29 schreef Subash Jeyan:
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>> 
>> the young 'naturalist' featured, i think, has a ks1 :)
>> 
>> ~subash
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Re: pentax sighting....

[Henk Terhell]

Great article, congrats! A fascinating face of that tree hopper.

Henk

Op 2019-09-09 om 15:29 schreef Subash Jeyan:

https://www.inaturalist.org/posts/27239-a-young-naturalist-in-india-finds-a-stunning-treehopper-observation-of-the-week-9-8-2019

the young 'naturalist' featured, i think, has a ks1 :)

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