Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-10 Thread Angel Ramos

Hi,
Long time I have not post, but my first camera back on 1978 or so was a 
Pentax ME, my mother gave me as a gift.  I remember 6 years or so later, 
I had it stored in my camera bag, I  was going to use it, put film in 
it, and went out.  I was to make a first shot when I realized something 
moving inside the viewfinder.  I took the lens out, and checked inside 
the mirror box, and nothing there, nor the lens.  Then, without a lens I 
looked into the viewfinder and they where inside the pentaprism area and 
sure several of them.  I took the camera to  my friend's camera shop, he 
checked it, took it to his lab, and blew the bugs off with compress air 
used to clean negatives.  I never got  those small beasts back.  I would 
have sent the camera to repair, but was not necessary.  I still have the 
little camera and still works good.  I trashed the bag!
One word of caution.  Insecticide is almost 100 % organic chemicals, it 
could damage plastic or foam, I would not use it near photographic 
equipment or materials that can contact it.   If you suspect your camera 
bag or the foam in your cases have insects,  then you can wash with 
normal water and a detergent the packing material ( foam) or the bag if  
it is washable.  Detergents are known to cause damage or kill to 
insects.  And after a good rinse, let the foam or bag completely dry 
up.  Then put the material in a plastic bag, close it up and use a 
vacuum cleaner to vacuum off any left overs from the bag or material.  
You can also do this as your first approach, but with the detergent you 
will be sure you had killed all the living ones.


Cheers,

Angel Ramos  KP4TE
From Tropical
Arecibo, Puerto Rico

Chad wrote:


Damn Rob, I can't have any fun. :) The Pelican cases are waterproof,
and insecticide is mostly water..shoot, I guess I'll take your
advice.

Chad 


On 6/8/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


I've been storing my lenses and bodies in Pelican/UK cases for many years and
they have done a great job in all climates. I think that would keep
insecticides well away from them though, the solvents could well cause an out-
gassing problem with the foam or the case.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA

   





 





Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/6/05, Angel Ramos, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi,
Long time I have not post, but my first camera back on 1978 or so was a 
Pentax ME, my mother gave me as a gift.  I remember 6 years or so later, 
I had it stored in my camera bag, I  was going to use it, put film in 
it, and went out.  I was to make a first shot when I realized something 
moving inside the viewfinder.  I took the lens out, and checked inside 
the mirror box, and nothing there, nor the lens.  Then, without a lens I 
looked into the viewfinder and they where inside the pentaprism area and 
sure several of them.  I took the camera to  my friend's camera shop, he 
checked it, took it to his lab, and blew the bugs off with compress air 
used to clean negatives.  I never got  those small beasts back.  I would 
have sent the camera to repair, but was not necessary.  I still have the 
little camera and still works good.  I trashed the bag!
One word of caution.  Insecticide is almost 100 % organic chemicals, it 
could damage plastic or foam, I would not use it near photographic 
equipment or materials that can contact it.   If you suspect your camera 
bag or the foam in your cases have insects,  then you can wash with 
normal water and a detergent the packing material ( foam) or the bag if  
it is washable.  Detergents are known to cause damage or kill to 
insects.  And after a good rinse, let the foam or bag completely dry 
up.  Then put the material in a plastic bag, close it up and use a 
vacuum cleaner to vacuum off any left overs from the bag or material.  
You can also do this as your first approach, but with the detergent you 
will be sure you had killed all the living ones.

Hi Angel,

Thanks for the info!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-08 Thread Frantisek
C I think the only possible problem - and it is very slight indeed - is
C from mites. Small bugs that can infest the material used to cover the

OMG!

They won't eat my pixels, will they ???

Good light!
   fra



Re: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-08 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 09:31:01 GMT
 To: Cotty pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case
 
 C I think the only possible problem - and it is very slight indeed - is
 C from mites. Small bugs that can infest the material used to cover the
 
 OMG!
 
 They won't eat my pixels, will they ???

These are light mites.  You are thinking of pixel pixies.  Similar to flash 
fairies but more blocky looking.

 
 Good light!
fra
 
 


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Re: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-08 Thread Chad
Howdy,

Thanks for the reply Bob. The only thing that worries me about being
in Texas is the amount of moisture, high dewpoints, in the air. I keep
the cases out of the sun as much as possible, and when they are not in
the use they are kept in a cool dark area. I keep a few silica gel
packets, the rechargeable kind, and it seems to work in keeping the
moisture down.
Its nice to hear of others using foam filled Pelican cases as storage.

Until today Cotty I never even considered mites as a possible problem.
I'll keep an eye out for them now. Maybe I should spray the outside of
my case with an insecticide. ;-)
That should do it. 


Chad



Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/6/05, Chad, discombobulated, unleashed:

Until today Cotty I never even considered mites as a possible problem.
I'll keep an eye out for them now. Maybe I should spray the outside of
my case with an insecticide. ;-)
That should do it. 

I must admit I've never seen them either. Has anyone ever come across an
insectoid infestation in their gear?




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  Cotty


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Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-08 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 8/6/05, Chad, discombobulated, unleashed:



Until today Cotty I never even considered mites as a possible problem.
I'll keep an eye out for them now. Maybe I should spray the outside of
my case with an insecticide. ;-)
That should do it. 



I must admit I've never seen them either. Has anyone ever come across an
insectoid infestation in their gear?



I had one amble across the viewfinder of my Z1-p once.  It was its last. 
 They are easy to get rid of and easy to keep away.  Make sure there is 
little dust and no film chippings (really) for them to live on and watch 
out for locations you might pick them up.  Dusty houses, etc.  I got 
mine in Russia.  But I could have just as easily got it in my flat, when 
I had moggies.  8-)


mike





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Re: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Jun 2005 at 10:55, Chad wrote:

 Its nice to hear of others using foam filled Pelican cases as storage.
 
 Until today Cotty I never even considered mites as a possible problem.
 I'll keep an eye out for them now. Maybe I should spray the outside of
 my case with an insecticide. ;-)
 That should do it. 

I've been storing my lenses and bodies in Pelican/UK cases for many years and 
they have done a great job in all climates. I think that would keep 
insecticides well away from them though, the solvents could well cause an out-
gassing problem with the foam or the case.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-08 Thread Chad
Damn Rob, I can't have any fun. :) The Pelican cases are waterproof,
and insecticide is mostly water..shoot, I guess I'll take your
advice.

Chad 

On 6/8/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been storing my lenses and bodies in Pelican/UK cases for many years and
 they have done a great job in all climates. I think that would keep
 insecticides well away from them though, the solvents could well cause an out-
 gassing problem with the foam or the case.
 
 
 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA




Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-07 Thread P. J. Alling
It depends on the foam.  Some foams especially from the 70's degrade in 
very unfriendly ways.


Chad wrote:


I have a separate plastic case that I use to store my lenses. It is
dark, and I keep silica gel in the case to keep out the Texas tropical
moisture. When I go out and take pics I transfer the needed lenses to
my Pelican case, which also has silica gel in it. I was wondering if
any damage could occur by storing a lens in a Pelican case which has
foam? Has anyone heard of foam causing damage, ie possible fumes, to a
lens?

Chad Richardson


 




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Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-07 Thread pnstenquist
Pelican supplied foam does not emit gases. If you buy foam from another source, 
it could be a problem. It should be marked as emissions free. Some of the foam 
sold as packing material emits quite a bit of nasty stuff.
Paul


 I have a separate plastic case that I use to store my lenses. It is
 dark, and I keep silica gel in the case to keep out the Texas tropical
 moisture. When I go out and take pics I transfer the needed lenses to
 my Pelican case, which also has silica gel in it. I was wondering if
 any damage could occur by storing a lens in a Pelican case which has
 foam? Has anyone heard of foam causing damage, ie possible fumes, to a
 lens?
 
 Chad Richardson
 



RE: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-07 Thread Bob W
I used to store my cameras and lenses inside a foam-lined Pelican case. Did
it for years. Now I keep them in a safe, but I have used the foam from a
Pelican case to line the boxes that hold the lenses. They've been stored
that way now for about 5 years. I haven't experienced any problems. 

However, I'm not in Texas. That could conceivably make a difference. But
Pelican cases are specially designed for sensitive equipment, so I expect it
should be ok. Might be an idea to have a look at their website.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 07 June 2005 20:57
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case
 
 Pelican supplied foam does not emit gases. If you buy foam 
 from another source, it could be a problem. It should be 
 marked as emissions free. Some of the foam sold as packing 
 material emits quite a bit of nasty stuff.
 Paul
 
 
  I have a separate plastic case that I use to store my lenses. It is 
  dark, and I keep silica gel in the case to keep out the 
 Texas tropical 
  moisture. When I go out and take pics I transfer the needed 
 lenses to 
  my Pelican case, which also has silica gel in it. I was 
 wondering if 
  any damage could occur by storing a lens in a Pelican case 
 which has 
  foam? Has anyone heard of foam causing damage, ie possible 
 fumes, to a 
  lens?
  
  Chad Richardson
  
 
 
 
 



Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-07 Thread Chad
Thanks Paul  P.J.

This is modern foam, ie not from the 70's :). This is the foam that is
supplied with the case from Pelican. I figure as long as the foam does
not out gas, and I keep enough silica in the case I should be alright
for use as storage. Sure would save time. :)

Chad

On 6/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pelican supplied foam does not emit gases. If you buy foam from another 
 source, it could be a problem. It should be marked as emissions free. Some of 
 the foam sold as packing material emits quite a bit of nasty stuff.
 Paul




Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case

2005-06-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/6/05, Chad, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have a separate plastic case that I use to store my lenses. It is
dark, and I keep silica gel in the case to keep out the Texas tropical
moisture. When I go out and take pics I transfer the needed lenses to
my Pelican case, which also has silica gel in it. I was wondering if
any damage could occur by storing a lens in a Pelican case which has
foam? Has anyone heard of foam causing damage, ie possible fumes, to a
lens?

I think the only possible problem - and it is very slight indeed - is
from mites. Small bugs that can infest the material used to cover the
foam padding. My sister's bloke has seen this is a LowePro before. They
live in the bag and eventually infest the camera, often appearing on the
focus screen so can actually be seen!

The cure was to freeze the gear and blow the stiffs out.

True!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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