RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
tks, eric, but i was just confirming the correct description of the pin. i am very familiar with z38max . i have 15 in actual use!! 73 jose --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Eric Vincent eric...@telus.net wrote: From: Eric Vincent eric...@telus.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 12:59 AM Hello Jose, Yes, your right, it’s only a 15 pin strait in line connector. I’ve looked on my manual… I have this type of connector in my stock, please contact me offline for an arrangement. 73’ Eric VE7YBC ericvin AT telus DOT net De : Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com ] De la part de Jose Aguilar Envoyé : 12 avril 2010 13:29 À : Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Objet : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Z38 is 15 pin (orange) in straight line From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail. com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:51:21 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory… 73’ Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yaoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory. 73' Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yaoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory. 73' Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yaoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Sorry, The one that I have are for Z45 / Z48 . 15 pin into a strait line. 73' Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent mailto:eric...@telus.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory. 73' Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yaoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
They are made by Phoenix Contacts. you can get them from Mouser. Bill KB1MGH From: tracomm trac...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 12:32:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Z38 is 15 pin (orange) in straight line From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:51:21 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory… 73’ Eric VE7YBC From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yaoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Hello Jose, Yes, your right, its only a 15 pin strait in line connector. Ive looked on my manual I have this type of connector in my stock, please contact me offline for an arrangement. 73 Eric VE7YBC ericvin AT telus DOT net _ De : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Jose Aguilar Envoyé : 12 avril 2010 13:29 À : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Z38 is 15 pin (orange) in straight line _ From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:51:21 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent mailto:eric...@telus.net To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory 73 Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yaoogrou ps.com http://ps.com/ ] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 48b
Check and see if the DPL is either being presented or programmed as inverted. My TP-38 panel is opposite of what I tell it to do, even though PL's always work. On 1/29/2010 3:56 PM, plaimann wrote: i have a zetron 48b controller , running 2 motorola vhf sm50 mobiles via the acdcessory connectors. im having a problem with running a dpl. when i set the controller to dpl, it will key up with no audio , but if i add audio the ctcss light drops and the repeater drops. any ideas? i run 2 pl's regularly with no problems.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 19 needed
Just in case you can't find a Zetron 19, take a look at this simplex repeater controller. I've seen a demonstration on this one and it seems to work very well. It sells for about $90. http://www.argentdata.com/products/repeater.html https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=27 https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=27osCsid=9764ae4dddb41f 2793ecef08c608ab71 osCsid=9764ae4dddb41f2793ecef08c608ab71 Jim _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KD8BIW Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 19 needed I'm in need of a Zetron Model 19 Simplexor store and forward for VOICE. Please email direct with price and shipping. Thanks!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst
Just catching up on RB mail after a couple of weeks... For the record, I learned that turn of phrase (chicken burst) from reading things here on RB over the years. I don't know the history of the phrase. Chicken to implement true reverse burst/squelch tail elimination, etc? I have no idea. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:10 -0800, Jim Brown w5...@yahoo.com wrote: I use several Z-38A controllers in ham applications. I get around the squelch crash problem by setting the Z-38A to stop sending a PL tone as soon as a user unkeys. The short tail is still there from the repeater, but the lack of a tone to a receiver lets the audio shut off while carrier is still present, and does not generate a squelch crash. I believe Nate calls this a 'chicken burst' though I have never heard that term before - A second benefit of shutting off the tone after a user unkeys is that it allows in-band links with no ping-pong effects due to the tails talking to each other. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 1:09 PM You have discovered one of many dirty little secrets that apply to aftermarket tone panels. When designing the 38A tone panel, and many other products, Zetron overlooked the fact that reverse burst is essential in the repeated audio. From a close examination of the 38A manual and schematics, it appears that it will decode CTCSS reverse burst and CDCSS turnoff code, and MAY generate CDCSS turnoff code, but I see no evidence that it can generate reverse burst. That alone is a major shortcoming! Zetron is not the only manufacturer that ignored reverse burst encoding when designing a community repeater controller. Instrument Associates, which produced the i20R On-site Repeater Controller for the Motorola GR1225 desktop repeater, did likewise. I did not realize this until I found that squelch crashes were immediately heard as soon as I put the i20R in service. Although some fans of the old Highway Patrol shows starring Broderick Crawford may enjoy the sound of a squelch crash, I do not, nor do any of my radio users. That i20R was pulled from service immediately, and put on the shelf! There are two different formats for CTCSS reverse burst STE (Squelch Tail Elimination) that are defined in TIA-603-C, the international standard for land-mobile radio performance and design. One format, used principally by Motorola, uses a 120-degree phase shift, while the other format, used by Kenwood and many others, uses a 180-degree phase shift. Since modern radios often use digital signal processing to encode and decode low-speed data (CTCSS and CDCSS), it is all too easy to design a circuit that responds perfectly to 180-degree phase shift but ignores 120-degree phase shift, and vice-versa. Zetron and others couldn't be bothered to create a CTCSS encoder that could be switched between the two reverse-burst formats, so they just ignored the problem. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of wspx472 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst I am trying to get a repeater going using a 38A and find that it doesn't send reverse burst. I thought I saw that it did in the manual but upon looking again, all I see is where it responds to reverse burst. Does anyone know for sure if it is supposed to send reverse burst? If so, how do I get it to do it? References 1. mailto:w5...@yahoo.com?subject=re:%20[Repeater-Builder]%20Zetron%2038A%20not%20sending%20reverse%20burst 2. mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com?subject=re:%20[Repeater-Builder]%20Zetron%2038A%20not%20sending%20reverse%20burst 3. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/message/95820;_ylc=X3oDMTM1ZHZxMDF1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEbXNnSWQDOTU4MzMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjU4NjM5OTAzBHRwY0lkAzk1ODIw 4. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlc2RhOTllBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTI1ODYzOTkwMw--?o=6 5. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder;_ylc=X3oDMTJkaGkyMG5hBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxMjU4NjM5OTAz 6. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJkN21pdnVmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDbnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjU4NjM5OTAz 7. http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14k9c4lda/M=493064.12016295.13793596.10835568/D=groups/S=1705063108:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1258647103/L=/B=F2eDAkPDhEE-/J=1258639903754764/K=KOR8qtxekTH7Rxozg8rs_w/A=5898843/R=0/SIG=11kkq36go
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst
I use several Z-38A controllers in ham applications. I get around the squelch crash problem by setting the Z-38A to stop sending a PL tone as soon as a user unkeys. The short tail is still there from the repeater, but the lack of a tone to a receiver lets the audio shut off while carrier is still present, and does not generate a squelch crash. I believe Nate calls this a 'chicken burst' though I have never heard that term before - A second benefit of shutting off the tone after a user unkeys is that it allows in-band links with no ping-pong effects due to the tails talking to each other. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 1:09 PM You have discovered one of many dirty little secrets that apply to aftermarket tone panels. When designing the 38A tone panel, and many other products, Zetron overlooked the fact that reverse burst is essential in the repeated audio. From a close examination of the 38A manual and schematics, it appears that it will decode CTCSS reverse burst and CDCSS turnoff code, and MAY generate CDCSS turnoff code, but I see no evidence that it can generate reverse burst. That alone is a major shortcoming! Zetron is not the only manufacturer that ignored reverse burst encoding when designing a community repeater controller. Instrument Associates, which produced the i20R On-site Repeater Controller for the Motorola GR1225 desktop repeater, did likewise. I did not realize this until I found that squelch crashes were immediately heard as soon as I put the i20R in service. Although some fans of the old Highway Patrol shows starring Broderick Crawford may enjoy the sound of a squelch crash, I do not, nor do any of my radio users. That i20R was pulled from service immediately, and put on the shelf! There are two different formats for CTCSS reverse burst STE (Squelch Tail Elimination) that are defined in TIA-603-C, the international standard for land-mobile radio performance and design. One format, used principally by Motorola, uses a 120-degree phase shift, while the other format, used by Kenwood and many others, uses a 180-degree phase shift. Since modern radios often use digital signal processing to encode and decode low-speed data (CTCSS and CDCSS), it is all too easy to design a circuit that responds perfectly to 180-degree phase shift but ignores 120-degree phase shift, and vice-versa. Zetron and others couldn't be bothered to create a CTCSS encoder that could be switched between the two reverse-burst formats, so they just ignored the problem. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of wspx472 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst I am trying to get a repeater going using a 38A and find that it doesn't send reverse burst. I thought I saw that it did in the manual but upon looking again, all I see is where it responds to reverse burst. Does anyone know for sure if it is supposed to send reverse burst? If so, how do I get it to do it?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst
You have discovered one of many dirty little secrets that apply to aftermarket tone panels. When designing the 38A tone panel, and many other products, Zetron overlooked the fact that reverse burst is essential in the repeated audio. From a close examination of the 38A manual and schematics, it appears that it will decode CTCSS reverse burst and CDCSS turnoff code, and MAY generate CDCSS turnoff code, but I see no evidence that it can generate reverse burst. That alone is a major shortcoming! Zetron is not the only manufacturer that ignored reverse burst encoding when designing a community repeater controller. Instrument Associates, which produced the i20R On-site Repeater Controller for the Motorola GR1225 desktop repeater, did likewise. I did not realize this until I found that squelch crashes were immediately heard as soon as I put the i20R in service. Although some fans of the old Highway Patrol shows starring Broderick Crawford may enjoy the sound of a squelch crash, I do not, nor do any of my radio users. That i20R was pulled from service immediately, and put on the shelf! There are two different formats for CTCSS reverse burst STE (Squelch Tail Elimination) that are defined in TIA-603-C, the international standard for land-mobile radio performance and design. One format, used principally by Motorola, uses a 120-degree phase shift, while the other format, used by Kenwood and many others, uses a 180-degree phase shift. Since modern radios often use digital signal processing to encode and decode low-speed data (CTCSS and CDCSS), it is all too easy to design a circuit that responds perfectly to 180-degree phase shift but ignores 120-degree phase shift, and vice-versa. Zetron and others couldn't be bothered to create a CTCSS encoder that could be switched between the two reverse-burst formats, so they just ignored the problem. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wspx472 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst I am trying to get a repeater going using a 38A and find that it doesn't send reverse burst. I thought I saw that it did in the manual but upon looking again, all I see is where it responds to reverse burst. Does anyone know for sure if it is supposed to send reverse burst? If so, how do I get it to do it?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 45
Anybody have a manual for a Zetron 45, not a 45B, a 45 ? Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 66
I have 2 of these in service and it is for the pager industry not a repeater controller. I know of no way to use one on a repeater unless you want it to also be a paging transmitter. It is tone controlled by the paging terminal and can output analog voice paging or digital pocsac or golay paging. It then sends a digital square wave. WB5OXQ - Original Message - From: Peter P J To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 66 I got one from the Pager equipment Junk. Any use for this in a amateur repeater site? Can we convert it into a Rpt controller for VHF? Peter
Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron
At 03:15 PM 03/12/09, you wrote: Anyone have a pdf for a Zetron Model 35 - unit i need book to set up and program. for a 6mtr repeater in the uk gb3ct thanks from chris The brochure and the owners manual are on the repeater-builder web site. We are still looking for the service manual. Mike WA6ILQ co-webmaster at www.repeater-builder.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Zetron 45B
Good afternoon I am looking for the users manual/service manual for the Zetron 45B interconnect . Anyone have one they wish to sell or lead me to a source to get one. I inherited a site that has one but no documentation was found with it thanks EdVA6EF OLCN
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Z48B Programming
Hi Alex, You can download the manual on the repeater builder site: http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-index.html Look on the manual you will have many possibility for resetting the machine. Everything you need is there! Good Luck. Eric VE2VXT _ De : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Bill Alexander Envoyé : 22 octobre 2008 06:03 À : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Objet : [Repeater-Builder] Zentron Z48B Programming Trying to talk to a Z48B, can not find the reset button manual refers to, to get menu to come up. Making my own null cable, and so far no communications with computer. Owner wants to use it only as a tone board for now. Open for any ideals, woke up a 4am trying to figure what I'm doing wrong. Thanks Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:kr6g%40arrl.net __ Information NOD32 3547 (20081022) __ Ce message a ete verifie par NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller
Hi Ian, Does anyone have any info on the unit in question that generated those tones? I'd love to find one - just for memorabilia. That tone format has been around for a long time in mobile radio (Motorola Quik-Call I) and is still being used in aviation (ICAO SELCAL) to page aircraft on the company channel. A chime informs the flight crew that a message follows (in case the volume has been turned down -- it happens when you have three radios going... :-). Aviation uses SELCAL on VHF-AM and HF channels, but on HF the tones are sent with amplitude modulation to ensure proper decoding while the conversations take place on SSB. Our air/ground interconnect and 7330 repeater controller support SELCAL because commercial customers still use it. 73, Bob Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member S-COM, LLC PO Box 1546 LaPorte CO 80535-1546 970-416-6505 voice 970-419-3222 fax www.scomcontrollers.com **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller
Lots of equipment can encode the 2+2 Quick Call format but since today's decoders are software based (counting squared off audio waveforms) instead of hardware based (mechanical reeds) nothing I have seen recently will accurately decode the format. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller Hi Ian, Does anyone have any info on the unit in question that generated those tones? I'd love to find one - just for memorabilia. That tone format has been around for a long time in mobile radio (Motorola Quik-Call I) and is still being used in aviation (ICAO SELCAL) to page aircraft on the company channel. A chime informs the flight crew that a message follows (in case the volume has been turned down -- it happens when you have three radios going... :-). Aviation uses SELCAL on VHF-AM and HF channels, but on HF the tones are sent with amplitude modulation to ensure proper decoding while the conversations take place on SSB. Our air/ground interconnect and 7330 repeater controller support SELCAL because commercial customers still use it. 73, Bob Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member S-COM, LLC PO Box 1546 LaPorte CO 80535-1546 970-416-6505 voice 970-419-3222 fax www.scomcontrollers.com -- New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller
Yet is should. It's no different than DTMF. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Milt To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller Lots of equipment can encode the 2+2 Quick Call format but since today's decoders are software based (counting squared off audio waveforms) instead of hardware based (mechanical reeds) nothing I have seen recently will accurately decode the format. Milt N3LTQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:52:34 -, Ian Miller wrote: shows on WRTN Buffalo on DISH Network. VA2IR I'm SURE you meant Expressvu or Starchoiceright :) Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics ESSO plaza at exit 268 off HWY 401 Phone: 519-513-0377 My idea of a Symphony 8 Pistons playing the tune my right foot tells them to.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller
They may have used a Zetron in later years, but at the time the program was made, Zetron wasn't in existence. See this and you'll have what you seek: http://www.policeinterceptor.com/emerg.htm Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Ian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller Hi fellows. This is a little off topic, but lately I have been watching and taping the old EMERGENCY! shows on WRTN Buffalo on DISH Network. 4PM eastern. From reading on some fan sites, the dispatcher, Sam Lanier, who was a real LA County fire dispatcher, used a ZETRON Station control unit to send out those tones that were heard in the station, and opened the doors. Does anyone have any info on the unit in question that generated those tones? I'd love to find one - just for memorabilia. Thanks again Ian VA2IR VE2RMP VHF/UHF Repeater group Irlp Nodes 2570 and 2006 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38a Schematics
That's like totally great news, dude! One very important piece of information missing, however. Bob M. == --- On Tue, 7/29/08, n3gh_1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: n3gh_1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38a Schematics To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:45 PM Greetings All! I have uploaded PDF files of schematics for the Zetron 38A controller. Have fun! 73, N3GH George
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual
Yep, he did. The schematics pages in that PDF file are blank (unfortunately it's all we have). A good example of Zetron customer service at its best. I've heard it from several people - they buy Zetron, they shelve the manual. Several years later the unit needs repair - maybe they zap a COR input, or something. They pull the manual off the shelf, and the schematics are blank. Unhappy customers tend to make later purchases elsewhere. Mike At 12:06 PM 04/24/08, you wrote: Doesn't anyone check the website or do a google search anymore?? http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdfhttp://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdf Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jack Davis To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual Does anyone have the schematics for a Zetron Model 38A repeater controller? The pages are blank in my manual and I need to fix it. Thanks, Jack K6YC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 4/21/2008 8:34 AM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual
Doesn't anyone check the website or do a google search anymore?? http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdf Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Jack Davis To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual Does anyone have the schematics for a Zetron Model 38A repeater controller? The pages are blank in my manual and I need to fix it. Thanks, Jack K6YC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 4/21/2008 8:34 AM
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron ZMX dtmf mic
I have the programming instructions for a Zetron ZML mike. If you think it is the same, I'll be happy to email it to you. 73, Tony VE3DWI _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of barrypal Sent: April 20, 2008 10:55 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron ZMX dtmf mic Does anyone have programming information for the Zetron ZMX dtmf mic? It is programmable using the dtmf pad on the mic. I am using it on a Motorola m1225 and it's working great but it has been programmed to send a dtmf on key down and key upCan't have that.. Thanks
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect
Paul, Could you please forward a copy of it to Mike Morris for publication to the Repeater-Builder site? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Scott Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect I do. Contact direct K.Paul Boggs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mountain Emergency Communications - Original Message - From: ve5fn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 4/12/2008 1:50:23 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect HELP! Does anyone have access to the manual for this beast? Our club has acquired one without a manual. 73 .. Bill VE5FN No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect
I do. Contact direct K.Paul Boggs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mountain Emergency Communications - Original Message - From: ve5fn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 4/12/2008 1:50:23 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect HELP! Does anyone have access to the manual for this beast? Our club has acquired one without a manual. 73 .. Bill VE5FN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 48 and 48BB Manuals
I spent the morning over at the storage shed and found the 48 manual. Now to find a scanner the wide pullouts may end up in sections. Mike WA6ILQ At 05:57 PM 04/02/08, you wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I did, it got misplaced in the move. OK, well, I can make a copy again. Actually I have one each of the Model 48 and Model 48B manuals. I am not able to scan them here, so I'll make paper copies. If both of them are useful, I'll copy both. Where is the best place to send them so they'll be scanned and posted on the Repeater-Builder site? Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 48 B Manual?
At 04:44 AM 04/01/08, you wrote: Does anyone have one? I'd love to at least know how to reset one to default, and what speed the RS-232 interface runs at. Thanks Jim WB8AZP There's a Zetron 48-Jr manual on the Zetron page at www.repeater-builder.com The parts you are looking for MAY be similar, and the manual may be useful to you. The 48 (plain), 48B and 48MAX manuals seem to be unavailable from anyone. Mike WA6ILQ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 48 B Manual?
Hi Jim and Mike, To reset Zetron 48B as factory default you can remove U6 from the Smart Socket and the RAM will be clear. Also you can turn OFF the system and install JP19 to short the leads together and turn ON, when all the led's come ON except Transmit, DTMF and Local, remove JP19. I prefer the first method because I am sure that the RAM is emptied and that it will not be corrupted. The RS232 speed is 4800bps/No parity/8 data bits/1 stop bit and use XOFF/XON protocol. You need a DB-9 cable between the Z48 and you PC. This is the pinout to make your own DB-9M to DB-9F (Z48 pin3 to RS232 pin2) (Z48 pin4 to RS232 pin3) (Z48 pin5 to RS232 pin5) (RS232 pin4 to RS232 pin6) (RS232 pin7 to RS232 pin8) After you need to press ENTER to activate communication, you will see the Top Menu. My manual is for Zetron 48B and also I have Zetron 48-MAX, if you need it I can go to Jetcopy and ask for a price to duplicate the manual. 73' Eric _ Does anyone have one? I'd love to at least know how to reset one to default, and what speed the RS-232 interface runs at. Thanks Jim WB8AZP There's a Zetron 48-Jr manual on the Zetron page at www.repeater-builder.com The parts you are looking for MAY be similar, and the manual may be useful to you. The 48 (plain), 48B and 48MAX manuals seem to be unavailable from anyone. Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller
Hi Mike, You helped me out in the past on my Compa 6 meter station. Tks again. The Zetreon Model 48 is an plain Jane. Wesley AB8KD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller
Those pointers to the data / spec sheet for the 48MAX. He may have the 48 (plain) model, or even the 48JR model. Unfortunately the repeater-builder web site has only the data sheets on several Zetron units, including the 48, the 48JR and the 48MAX. If anyone has any of the missing PDFs please consider sending them in so everyone can benefit. Mike WA6ILQ At 05:10 PM 12/01/07, you wrote: http://www.zetron.com/data/site/templates/zetrontemplate.asp?area_0=pages/menus/privateradioprodarea_1=pages/products/privateradio/m48-max http://tinyurl.com/yva5pd R.Wesley Bazell Jr wrote: Picked up this Model at fort Wayne Hamfest for my MastrII 440 Repeater. Have been using Software with computer for ID up till now. See no info on Repeater tech website on this Zetron. anyone know how to program the Eproms on this unit. Have I bought an White Elephant?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller
have used a number of the 48 on repeaters it will make a very good controller but it is design for business use not so much ham. - Original Message - From: R.Wesley Bazell Jr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:17 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller Picked up this Model at fort Wayne Hamfest for my MastrII 440 Repeater. Have been using Software with computer for ID up till now. See no info on Repeater tech website on this Zetron. anyone know how to program the Eproms on this unit. Have I bought an White Elephant? Wesley AB8KD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller
http://www.zetron.com/data/site/templates/zetrontemplate.asp?area_0=pages/menus/privateradioprodarea_1=pages/products/privateradio/m48-max http://tinyurl.com/yva5pd R.Wesley Bazell Jr wrote: Picked up this Model at fort Wayne Hamfest for my MastrII 440 Repeater. Have been using Software with computer for ID up till now. See no info on Repeater tech website on this Zetron. anyone know how to program the Eproms on this unit. Have I bought an White Elephant? -- /Subscribe to dstar_digital/ Powered by groups.yahoo.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital
Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a
take out the chip with the battery and unplug the chip from the battery give it 3 mins or so and put it back should default. - Original Message - From: rwjohn49 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a Folks, I just got a Zetron 38A at a hamfest. Works fine in the repeater but I have tried the password code and no results. It is listed in the book as 12123#. Someone must have changed it... What do I do now? Can it be set back to a factory default? thanks, ron
Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a
Look inside the unit and find the ram IC that is plugged into the Dallas Semiconductor battery backup chip. Remove the ram IC from the battery backup chip for several seconds and plug it back in. It will default back to the factory original 12123. The controller will not be in the normal RS-232 control mode (be sure you build the special cable shown in the manual) after this operation though. It will be in the 'Model 8' mode. Here is the way to get it back into the normal RS-232 mode so you can enter the 12123 and get access: If the port is currently set for Model 8 mode and DTMF programming on the radio channel is not possible, the terminal may be used to simulate a Model 8 to change the settings. Perform the following procedure: Set the terminal for 4800 baud, then cycle power on the Model 38. The message READY will appear on the terminal, followed by a _ prompt. On the CRT, type in 19, then press the ENTER key. The message CRT should appear, (selects CRT mode) and press ENTER. When the _ prompt returns, type in 1 and press ENTER. Now cycle power on the panel to get the Enter Password == _ prompt. 73 - Jim W5ZIT rwjohn49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I just got a Zetron 38A at a hamfest. Works fine in the repeater but I have tried the password code and no results. It is listed in the book as 12123#. Someone must have changed it... What do I do now? Can it be set back to a factory default? thanks, ron __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Programming
Al, I would program the Z38A the way you have with one change. I am sure the system ID should be the same as the user ID, so instead of assigning the system ID to an unused user ID, I would use the user ID as the system ID. Just enter the user number for the tone you are using for normal user use in the system ID and that should work. I have had no case of the ID going away completely like you mention. I have never used the system ID except for long enough to see that it caused an ID every interval entered for the ID. The user ID runs at the end of the first transmission the user makes and will not run again until the ID interval expires. There will be no user ID after the ID timer for the user expires, only after the end of the next transmission the user makes. If you wanted to identify each user on the system, I guess you could assign a different tone access to each user and then enable the DTMF user ID at the end of each transmission. If you had a DTMF readout on a receiver listening to the repeater, you could identify each user that way. I don't remember if you could assign a different ID interval to the system ID from the user ID, but at the end of the first transmission a user makes, you could send his CW ID and have him identified each time he starts a session on the repeater and every ID interval after that. The first thing I did on setting up my Z38As was to go through the manual I found at the repeater-builders site (courtesy Eric Lemmon) and verify each command that my unit will respond to. I found that the manual was for a later model Z38A than the ones I have, and my units respond to a sub-set of the commands found in the manual. In particular, my units will not operate open squelch, you must have a tone to get into them. The later model units will allow you to enable user 0 and have the repeater operate with just the COR input and no tone. I have never considered using the individual user ID in an amateur radio application. I just entered the repeater callsign in each tone frequency I enabled. The reason we even have more than one tone enabled is to allow different uses of the repeater. Normal operation requires one tone, while operation of the EchoLink interface requires a different tone. And special use of the repeater for Search and Rescue operations uses a third tone so that the operating time for this mode can be reported as verified emergency operations to our site sponsor. We have a requirement at one site to report all emergency operations to help validate the need for the site, and the power it consumes. By the way, the ID is transmitted with a tone when it is enabled, so for the EchoLink tone we disable the ID in the Z38A for that tone and let EchoLink ID the repeater when that mode is in use. This prevents the ID from being transmitted down the in-band link to EchoLink, but any other use of the repeater on the other tone freqs will result in a normal repeater generated ID. If the Z38A is configured to not transmit the tone during the squelch tail, no problems with an in-band link into EchoLink occur. 73 - Jim W5ZIT radiotech808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Jim maybe one for you ? New Zetron 38A installed this morning so great to have the repeater back on again until I repair the other logic since we still require 1750Hz access I have managed to get a bit lost in the programming of the unit ( not a good idea to do programming after you first get out of bed !) Once again what I require morse id every 15 min's ( becon mode ) which I think is the system id, which is then assigned to a user ie a user who is enabled but reserved. Once the repeater is opened up a morse id for the current user ever over or every 3 mins What I am finding (with my programming) is system id every 15 mins which changes once the repeater panel is used no morse after the user has accessed the radio ! Regards Al __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Programming
Jim, Thanks once again for the input help As it stands tonight the repeater is operational after 5 hours at site setting up the audio again problem is the base station we use is not that forgiving with is comes to audio levels (Nokia BSR 150) On the older Zetron panel which was the basic 38 I could go onto the board do further adjustment although the newer 38A does not have any pots to adjust so out with the resister box a good set of ears As the station ID it has settled down to every 15 minutes although the Morse is going out at around 22 words a minute, awaiting call back from Zetron to see if I can adjust the timer speed on this apart from using the enabled user number Get on very well with Zetron here in the UK as used to use them with my last company so when it comes to support manuals they are very happy to help me out ( I aways have them laughing on the phone when I call so I have never been forgotten even there operator knows me by first name before saying who I am) Awaiting a call back email from Jose at tech support, one thing I did find out is there are hidden menus passwords so once I get that information I will pass it on to yourself. Jim I would rather leave the Zetron on site as we have major problems with transients like the site goes onto generator during working hour the back onto the grid after with has caused endless problems which I think was the main cause of the original logic (RC210) going u/s least the Zetron would cope well In all the year of looking after commercial repeater sites I have not had one go down yet Right time for bed here so better move PS For you information the repeater is GB3FF it does run on echo-link but just moved home so awaiting the antenna to go up so off line just now oh if you fancy having a look at the set up www.csfmg.com it will give you an idea on how things run here in Scotland Many thanks once again Jim your help is much appreciated Best Regards Al Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al, I would program the Z38A the way you have with one change. I am sure the system ID should be the same as the user ID, so instead of assigning the system ID to an unused user ID, I would use the user ID as the system ID. Just enter the user number for the tone you are using for normal user use in the system ID and that should work. I have had no case of the ID going away completely like you mention. I have never used the system ID except for long enough to see that it caused an ID every interval entered for the ID. The user ID runs at the end of the first transmission the user makes and will not run again until the ID interval expires. There will be no user ID after the ID timer for the user expires, only after the end of the next transmission the user makes. If you wanted to identify each user on the system, I guess you could assign a different tone access to each user and then enable the DTMF user ID at the end of each transmission. If you had a DTMF readout on a receiver listening to the repeater, you could identify each user that way. I don't remember if you could assign a different ID interval to the system ID from the user ID, but at the end of the first transmission a user makes, you could send his CW ID and have him identified each time he starts a session on the repeater and every ID interval after that. The first thing I did on setting up my Z38As was to go through the manual I found at the repeater-builders site (courtesy Eric Lemmon) and verify each command that my unit will respond to. I found that the manual was for a later model Z38A than the ones I have, and my units respond to a sub-set of the commands found in the manual. In particular, my units will not operate open squelch, you must have a tone to get into them. The later model units will allow you to enable user 0 and have the repeater operate with just the COR input and no tone. I have never considered using the individual user ID in an amateur radio application. I just entered the repeater callsign in each tone frequency I enabled. The reason we even have more than one tone enabled is to allow different uses of the repeater. Normal operation requires one tone, while operation of the EchoLink interface requires a different tone. And special use of the repeater for Search and Rescue operations uses a third tone so that the operating time for this mode can be reported as verified emergency operations to our site sponsor. We have a requirement at one site to report all emergency operations to help validate the need for the site, and the power it consumes. By the way, the ID is transmitted with a tone when it is enabled, so for the EchoLink tone we disable the ID in the Z38A for that tone and let EchoLink ID the repeater when that mode is in use. This prevents the ID from being
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
ALASTAIR GRAHAM wrote: And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident Oh-I didn't think about that...nevermind! ;c} -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
Jim, No problems I should have said :- ) Ok one of the local comms guys has swapped me for the newer 38A all working as should be including the Morse ID every 15 Min's great Only thing I wont be able to do is get 1750Hz access although I notice on the alarm side you can change the tones to 1750Hz but looks like encode only ? Another mater Hamtronix ELECTRA 2000 Any input on these would be helpful what I can tell so far is they are a great logic at a great price although 2 emails two weeks later I am still awaiting a reply re 1750Hz access Regards Al Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALASTAIR GRAHAM wrote: And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident Oh-I didn't think about that...nevermind! ;c} -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
The Z38A instruction manual can be down loaded from http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-index.html The 38 is a different puppy from the 38A, however. More that one person has voiced the comment that Zetron is one of those companies that has absolutely no regard for their customers. It seems that they stock manuals only for those products currently in production. If you want a manual for a device that is a few years old you are out of luck - you can't even buy one. If anybody wants to donate PDFs for the Zetron page at repeater-builder just go ahead and mail them in. We've got gigabytes of storage that are just sitting there going to waste. At 08:22 PM 10/24/07, you wrote: I think the ID in DTMF you are talking about is the user ID which is transmitted at the end of a transmission as the bubble up. The DTMF sequence is the user number. If you want to have the Z38A transmit an ID every 15 minutes in Morse whether it has been active or not, put a user number in the system config with the ID you want. If you only want an ID when the system is active, put the ID in the user number with the tone you are using and put user 0 in the system ID slot. If you set the CTCSS on transmit to terminate when the user stops transmitting, the CTCSS will continue during the ID and then drop for the rest of the squelch tail. Let me know if you have any more questions. I have 5 of the Z38A operating in amateur repeaters. 73 - Jim W5ZIT Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]radiotech808 To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
radiotech808 wrote: Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts You do know that ham ID regs call for 10 minute ID intervals, not 15? Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Never heard of a DTMF ID on a tone panelI think it's a unit ID/customer ID for the sake of billing or troubleshooting. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
Hi Jim All, Firstly the tone panel is a Zetron 38 not an A or max ! Jim you are right about the DTMF ident really only for trouble shooting over air etc And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident Speaking to tech at Zetron today he agrees that it looks like aa hardware issue as the hardware was made custom for Phillips back in 1985 (when I had hair) One thing that I think may be causing the ident not to trigger the radio TX could be one of the various jumper setting inside although no circuit diagram for that As before you can hear the ident every 15 (only on audio line to test set) it does not pull the radio into TX As everything else I have got going except this id with TX every 15 Min's Ps one post suggested using user tone 0 for the id Zetron will not accept this The Joys... Thanks for all the posts anyway guys Regards Al Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: radiotech808 wrote: Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts You do know that ham ID regs call for 10 minute ID intervals, not 15? Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Never heard of a DTMF ID on a tone panelI think it's a unit ID/customer ID for the sake of billing or troubleshooting. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: radiotech808 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
John, Thanks for the reply One thing I do have is the manual although not all DTMF programming commands work with my panel still suspect it's a hardware issue Will speak to Zetron tomorrow see what they come up with ! Regards Al Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: radiotech808 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
do you have one of the follow and the book for the other as there are: 38 38A 38max and there may be 2 ver of the plan 38. John - Original Message - From: ALASTAIR GRAHAM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel John, Thanks for the reply One thing I do have is the manual although not all DTMF programming commands work with my panel still suspect it's a hardware issue Will speak to Zetron tomorrow see what they come up with ! Regards Al Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: radiotech808 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
I think the ID in DTMF you are talking about is the user ID which is transmitted at the end of a transmission as the bubble up. The DTMF sequence is the user number. If you want to have the Z38A transmit an ID every 15 minutes in Morse whether it has been active or not, put a user number in the system config with the ID you want. If you only want an ID when the system is active, put the ID in the user number with the tone you are using and put user 0 in the system ID slot. If you set the CTCSS on transmit to terminate when the user stops transmitting, the CTCSS will continue during the ID and then drop for the rest of the squelch tail. Let me know if you have any more questions. I have 5 of the Z38A operating in amateur repeaters. 73 - Jim W5ZIT Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: radiotech808 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
Hey John and the Group! You may want to do a little more reading of this groups bible. IMHOTry this link: http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38A025-9043Y.pdf Might be a little easier than someone telling you the many codes... Enjoy! Charlie It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the Amateur that holds the license. Charles Mumphrey Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 MHz + 162.2 Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 MHz + 162.2 Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9 Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823 http://www.CharliesElectronics.com http://www.hello-radio.org http://www.emergency-radio.org Original Message Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, July 14, 2007 1:59 pm To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com can any tell me the default program codes for the: Zetron model 38 and Zetron model 38A thank you, John
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
I thought the 38 and 38A were different codes?
John
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From: Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh
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Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 3:10 PM
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Hey John and the Group!
You may want to do a little more reading of this groups bible.
IMHOTry this link:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38A025-9043Y.pdf
Might be a little easier than someone telling you the many codes...
Enjoy!
Charlie
It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
Amateur that holds the license.
Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823
http://www.CharliesElectronics.com
http://www.hello-radio.org
http://www.emergency-radio.org
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, July 14, 2007 1:59 pm
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
can any tell me the default program codes for the:
Zetron model 38
and
Zetron model 38A
thank you, John
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
it looks like the same program code works for both. thanks John - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron I thought the 38 and 38A were different codes? John - Original Message - From: Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Hey John and the Group! You may want to do a little more reading of this groups bible. IMHOTry this link: http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38A025-9043Y.pdf Might be a little easier than someone telling you the many codes... Enjoy! Charlie It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the Amateur that holds the license. Charles Mumphrey Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 MHz + 162.2 Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 MHz + 162.2 Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9 Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823 http://www.CharliesElectronics.com http://www.hello-radio.org http://www.emergency-radio.org Original Message Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, July 14, 2007 1:59 pm To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com can any tell me the default program codes for the: Zetron model 38 and Zetron model 38A thank you, John
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
John, there is a manual on line at the Repeater-Builder site, but your unit may be an earlier version of the EPROM than the one documented in that manual. The default decode sequence is 12345# if it is in the factory original state. I had several that were not, and found that I could remove the RAM chip from the Dallas Semiconductor battery back up for a few minutes and have the processor come back up in the defauld condition when it was replaced and could program from there. You have to put the processor back into the RS-232 access mode after this step, and you have to have a special cable (not standard RS-232) in order to program it via computer. The cable is documented in the manual and you will find that older units will operate a sub-set of the commands shown in the manual. 73 - Jim W5ZIT -Original Message- From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:59 am Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron can any tell me the default program codes for the: Zetron model 38 and Zetron model 38A thank you, John Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. =0
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
any know the access code for the Zetron 39MAX thanks and it is not 12123 John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron John, there is a manual on line at the Repeater-Builder site, but your unit may be an earlier version of the EPROM than the one documented in that manual. The default decode sequence is 12345# if it is in the factory original state. I had several that were not, and found that I could remove the RAM chip from the Dallas Semiconductor battery back up for a few minutes and have the processor come back up in the defauld condition when it was replaced and could program from there. You have to put the processor back into the RS-232 access mode after this step, and you have to have a special cable (not standard RS-232) in order to program it via computer. The cable is documented in the manual and you will find that older units will operate a sub-set of the commands shown in the manual. 73 - Jim W5ZIT -Original Message- From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:59 am Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron can any tell me the default program codes for the: Zetron model 38 and Zetron model 38A thank you, John __ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. =0
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a
It is really odd but for years Zetron was and is one of the top sellers for items in the radio world. It is also odd that last year they had more than $44 million in sales. Now Kenwood is going to buy then. You are right everyone can have there own thought about equipment of there likes and dislikes. Over the years we have had a lot of repeaters and still do that use Zetron controllers. thanks John - Original Message - From: Bill Hudson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:55 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a Let me help you a little with this 38 vs. 38A thing. I would only want to use it if it was the only thing you had, and you couldn't afford something else. IF, you were to have your choice, the 38A made several improvements. Both ID. Both have courtesy beeps. If you were talking to someone with a 38 on the repeater, and the other station answers (keys up) during the hang delay, the repeater passes the audio from the responding station, but drops out after the normal hang delay, and keys up again, dropping critical words and carrier in the process. The 38A solved this, but still is junk. There are different levels of junk for amateur applications. This could serve a purpose for commercial plain vanilla applications. Most of those applications have disappeared to more sophisticated arrangements. It's not something that I would ever want to install. The system I listen to complains about it as often as they can, to the guy that gifted it to them. Consider your alternatives and remember my constant reminder: When you buy quality, it only hurts once. W6CBS Bill Hudson -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 5:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a I have both of them. The 38 is the older ver of the two. The 38A will do more it the way of PL tones and the lasted I looked they both do CWID. The other thing the 38A board is a redesigned board. PS I have both here and would part with some if need be. John - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a On 4/12/07, mthoeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello and thanks for having me on the group Does anyone know/is there any difference between a Zetron Model 38 and Model 38A, aside from the obvious descriptor change? I can only find a manual on the Zetron website for the 38A and want to know for sure before buying a 38 that it is the same/very similar animal Thanks in advance Never owned either one, but was doing some similar research recently. Going solely off documentation I found, and could have read wrong... I don't think the 38 can do CW ID's. The 38A does. Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a
Be aware that the Zetron 38 has been around for a long time. It has gone through many revisions and depending on what version you are getting, lots of features you might find in the manual will not be there. For instance, I have a Zetron 38 that will not operate on just COS. It must have CTCSS to function. It only has the 38 tones, not the 50 tones that later models will recognize. Mine will not do DCS either. So depending on the firmware release a unit may be all over the place so far as features it provides. I took the on line manual and went through my unit and revised the feature list to just what my unit provided, so I could navigate the commands. In most cases, features were added with no change to the older features, so the manual is good as long as you get rid of the parts that do not apply. For the features my unit had, the manual commands worked just fine. Also, be aware that the older Zetrons used a battery back up for the RAM from Dallas Semiconductor that is no longer available. The new lead-free rules prevent them from importing the original part from the Philippines. If you have a Zetron and do not have the access code to change the parameters, just remove the RAM chip from the battery back up device and re-insert it after a minute or so and it will go back to factory default for the access code, along with all the other parameters that were stored. The battery back up may not work any longer if the unit is older than about ten years. Also, Zetron does not support the older units. No repair or firmware upgrades are available beyond a few years back. A unit sent in for repair will be returned without a repair, beyond a certain firmware version. 73 - Jim W5ZIT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:20 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a Hello and thanks for having me on the group Does anyone know/is there any difference between a Zetron Model 38 and Model 38A, aside from the obvious descriptor change? I can only find a manual on the Zetron website for the 38A and want to know for sure before buying a 38 that it is the same/very similar animal Thanks in advance Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a
Bill Hudson wrote: Let me help you a little with this 38 vs. 38A thing. snip If you were talking to someone with a 38 on the repeater, and the other station answers (keys up) during the hang delay, the repeater passes the audio from the responding station, but drops out after the normal hang delay, and keys up again, dropping critical words and carrier in the process. The 38A solved this, but still is junk. My solution to that would be to set the hang time to about 1 sec, and set time out timers such that you have to let the hang time expire to reset the timer. I know whatever tone panel EFJ supplied with the CR1010's was made by Zetron, and it had no end of problems with adjacent tone falsing. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a
On 4/12/07, mthoeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello and thanks for having me on the group Does anyone know/is there any difference between a Zetron Model 38 and Model 38A, aside from the obvious descriptor change? I can only find a manual on the Zetron website for the 38A and want to know for sure before buying a 38 that it is the same/very similar animal Thanks in advance Never owned either one, but was doing some similar research recently. Going solely off documentation I found, and could have read wrong... I don't think the 38 can do CW ID's. The 38A does. Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a
I have both of them. The 38 is the older ver of the two. The 38A will do more it the way of PL tones and the lasted I looked they both do CWID. The other thing the 38A board is a redesigned board. PS I have both here and would part with some if need be. John - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a On 4/12/07, mthoeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello and thanks for having me on the group Does anyone know/is there any difference between a Zetron Model 38 and Model 38A, aside from the obvious descriptor change? I can only find a manual on the Zetron website for the 38A and want to know for sure before buying a 38 that it is the same/very similar animal Thanks in advance Never owned either one, but was doing some similar research recently. Going solely off documentation I found, and could have read wrong... I don't think the 38 can do CW ID's. The 38A does. Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a
The Zetron 38A book is on the Zetron page at repeater-builder, anybody have the 38 ? Or any other Zetron books that aren't there? Zetron has a bad habit of not having any books for older gear... the Zetron page is available as a library... At 04:59 PM 04/12/07, you wrote: I have both of them. The 38 is the older ver of the two. The 38A will do more it the way of PL tones and the lasted I looked they both do CWID. The other thing the 38A board is a redesigned board. PS I have both here and would part with some if need be. John - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Nate Duehr To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 vs. 38a On 4/12/07, mthoeft mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello and thanks for having me on the group Does anyone know/is there any difference between a Zetron Model 38 and Model 38A, aside from the obvious descriptor change? I can only find a manual on the Zetron website for the 38A and want to know for sure before buying a 38 that it is the same/very similar animal Thanks in advance Never owned either one, but was doing some similar research recently. Going solely off documentation I found, and could have read wrong... I don't think the 38 can do CW ID's. The 38A does. Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 37 Repeaterman and Model 40 Worldpatch
Mike, you might just call Zetron and ask them for the tech docs you need. I bought a set for a Zetron gadget I acquired and they were quite helpful. Also, the price was quite reasonable. I don't recall how much it was, but it was definitely well within my ham budget, which is miniscule. 73, Dick W1NMZ/6 - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 24 February, 2007 21:43 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 37 Repeaterman and Model 40 Worldpatch Well, I was given an interesting box today to see if it can be moved to an amateur channel... It has a Spectrum receiver (on 469.0625 !) and a Hamtronics TA451 transmitter (!) in it, along with a Zetron Model 37 Repeaterman (part number on the bottom is 901-9241) and a Model 40 Worldpatch (901-9193). Does anybody have a paper or PDF manual on the Zetrons? I think I'm going to replace the radio side with something a bit different. Mike
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 controller
Looking at the inside of an older Zetron 38A I thought I was looking at the original Apple II. Same processor, same amount of memory ect. If you find a schematic, let me know. I have not found one either. 73 - Jim W5ZIT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 1:49 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 controller I wondered if anyone has a schematic for the Zetron 38 controller. I have found the manual on the repeaters build site but the schematics are not visible. Thanks N3GH George Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. =0
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 38A
Hi Les Use the Audio interface as one would use for your standard setup and if you could imagine place the Zetron input and output audio in a parallel fashion .In this way all dtmf etc would be used normally. With you ussing it to control the tail you would have the cos line connected. I am sure that you are are aware that one can use this panel for carrier operated squelch only or a combination of carrier as well as tone access.I have the main ch1 uhf Naturn linked this way and on irlp 8300 for years operating a zetron 38A as a carrier only repeater. See repeater page http://members.harc.org.za/zs5wt Regards Bradley Glen ZS5WT South Africa East Coast --- Les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Zetron Model 38A Tone Panel I am using for our local 2M repeater ait is only used for ident tail functions I do not want the repeater audio routed through it. Therefore I need to modify the panel so audio still goes in for DTMF control purposes the panel can generate confirmation tones for commands. Removing jumper 3 from the board prevents the repeater audio passing through the panel but it also stops audio input therefore no DTMF control. As i Don't have a Circuit Could someone please look at this Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 38 Manual
Cecil, If you don't find what you want at: http://www.repeater-builder.com/other-mfrs/zetron-model-38A025-9043Y.pdf then contact Technical Support at www.zetron.com. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Cecil Lale KF6ZOK wrote: ...What is the difference between the regular 38 and the 38A?... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Programming
For those interested parties and maybe someone in the not too distant future that may need some help . After determining how to get the ZETRON 38A out of transmit and eliminated the constant carrier indication I still had serial coomunications issues. We will address the issues one at a time. Carrier - really simply, I turned down audio input. Nothing is connected, but whatever. Transmit - To eliminate the transmit condition I had to initiate the test sequence which involved powering on the Z38A and within the first ten seconds after power is applied you must short site alarm to ground 15 times. This will stat the test sequence which will release the TX condition. Last but not least the serial communications problems were mostly due to having access to a newer manual. According to the manual the Z38A defaults to 1200 Baud or 4800 if the RS232 port is in Model 8 mode. After speaking with a very prompt and helpful Tech at Zetron I found out that any firmware prior to version 5.0 defaults to 300 baud and there was my problem. I did actually try 300 baud just to see, but I appearantly did not wait long enough for the computer to communicate with teh Z38A. Also the Zetron Tech informed me that the older firmware will actually lock itself into Model 8 mode if you power it on while it is connected to the PC and you can only release it by pulling the RAM chip. I hope this information helps someone at some point in time. Thanks for the bandwidth and all the help. Tim Billingsley --- Tim Billingsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zetron 38A 702-9075 rev. P I have built the serial interface cable for the second time and checked the pinout multiple times. I am using MS's canned Hyperterm program. I have tried both 1200 and 4800 baud 8 bit no parity 1 check bit I only have the power connections at this time. No other connections other than the ground jumper between ground and PTT ground are in place. This jumper was on it when I received it. (Thank you - you know who you are) I have yet to even get a glimmer of response from the Z38 on the computer. Maybe Hypertrm is the wrong critter for the job or maybe it's the operator heavy on the operator. Also I have not found any troubleshooting information in the manual that I have. I am not completely sure that this is a properly functioning unit, but this is what I have. When I connect power to the unit Power, Carrier, and DTMF LEDs initially come on Power and Carrier remain on and DTMF goes off immediately a few seconds later the Encoding LED flashes and continues to flash every 5 seconds. I know that there are some of you that are familiar with this unit and using it currently. If you can provide some insight or assistance it would be greatly appreciated. Sorry guys. I am really green at all of this stuff, but I would ike to try to do as well as I can with the resources I have available. Thanks Tim Tim Billingsley, KD5CKP http://www.qsl.net/kd5ckp/ __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Programming
Zetron 38A 702-9075 rev. P I have built the serial interface cable for the second time and checked the pinout multiple times. I am using MS's canned Hyperterm program. I have tried both 1200 and 4800 baud 8 bit no parity 1 check bit I only have the power connections at this time. No other connections other than the ground jumper between ground and PTT ground are in place. This jumper was on it when I received it. (Thank you - you know who you are) I have yet to even get a glimmer of response from the Z38 on the computer. Maybe Hypertrm is the wrong critter for the job or maybe it's the operator heavy on the operator. Also I have not found any troubleshooting information in the manual that I have. I am not completely sure that this is a properly functioning unit, but this is what I have. When I connect power to the unit Power, Carrier, and DTMF LEDs initially come onPower and Carrier remain on and DTMF goes off immediatelya few seconds later the Encoding LED flashes and continues to flash every 5 seconds. I know that there are some of you that are familiar with this unit and using it currently. If you can provide some insight or assistance it would be greatly appreciated. Sorry guys. I am really green at all of this stuff, but I would ike to try to do as well as I can with the resources I have available.Thanks Tim bradley glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi TimYou can use a hyper terminal program such as Bitcomand extract all the user info .regardsBrad--- Tim Billingsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: The following is quote from the 38A manual. what I would like to know (from users of the 38A) is there a way to 'extract' a configuration list from the controller in the same way you can display all the configuration information from a TNC? or is it strictly menu, prompt, and response as stated here? Thanks Tim= = = = = = = = = = = Programming Via The RS-232 Interface The Model 38 RS-232 port is valuable for initial test and adjustment, as well as general purpose programming and monitoring. All programming is done with friendly menus and plain English prompts. Programming is best done with an RS-232 display terminal or PC. Tasks such as adding, deleting, modifying parameters, retrieving airtime, and real-time monitoring may all be accomplished without disrupting communications. Most any RS-232 terminal or computer running a communications program may be used. __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Tim Billingsley, KD5CKPhttp://www.qsl.net/kd5ckp/ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Programming
Hi Tim 1st make sure that the carrier light does not stay on as if the SITE alarm is active for POWER UP it waits for the carrier to go off before sending tones out. This scenario produces a lock-up catch22 situation. Best try Bitcom as all should be ok on that program. Common problems with thoe panels are the Max 232 Ic that is close to the dB9 connector-replace to start off with. I will send you some software to assist you. Regards Bradley Glen ZS5WT B-Comm Node 8300 --- Tim Billingsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zetron 38A 702-9075 rev. P I have built the serial interface cable for the second time and checked the pinout multiple times. I am using MS's canned Hyperterm program. I have tried both 1200 and 4800 baud 8 bit no parity 1 check bit I only have the power connections at this time. No other connections other than the ground jumper between ground and PTT ground are in place. This jumper was on it when I received it. (Thank you - you know who you are) I have yet to even get a glimmer of response from the Z38 on the computer. Maybe Hypertrm is the wrong critter for the job or maybe it's the operator heavy on the operator. Also I have not found any troubleshooting information in the manual that I have. I am not completely sure that this is a properly functioning unit, but this is what I have. When I connect power to the unit Power, Carrier, and DTMF LEDs initially come on Power and Carrier remain on and DTMF goes off immediately a few seconds later the Encoding LED flashes and continues to flash every 5 seconds. I know that there are some of you that are familiar with this unit and using it currently. If you can provide some insight or assistance it would be greatly appreciated. Sorry guys. I am really green at all of this stuff, but I would ike to try to do as well as I can with the resources I have available. Thanks Tim bradley glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim You can use a hyper terminal program such as Bitcom and extract all the user info . regards Brad --- Tim Billingsley wrote: The following is quote from the 38A manual. what I would like to know (from users of the 38A) is there a way to 'extract' a configuration list from the controller in the same way you can display all the configuration information from a TNC? or is it strictly menu, prompt, and response as stated here? Thanks Tim = = = = = = = = = = = Programming Via The RS-232 Interface The Model 38 RS-232 port is valuable for initial test and adjustment, as well as general purpose programming and monitoring. All programming is done with friendly menus and plain English prompts. Programming is best done with an RS-232 display terminal or PC. Tasks such as adding, deleting, modifying parameters, retrieving airtime, and real-time monitoring may all be accomplished without disrupting communications. Most any RS-232 terminal or computer running a communications program may be used. __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Tim Billingsley, KD5CKP http://www.qsl.net/kd5ckp/ - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A connector
I may have an extra. Is this the connector that wires connect to that plugs into the Zetron? Russ On 5/21/05, Tim Billingsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone aware of an alternate source for the 15 pin terminal strip onthe back of the Zetron 38A? I am guessing that this is probably a propritary item, but no harm in asking around.ThanksTim Billingsley, KD5CKPhttp://www.qsl.net/kd5ckp/__ Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mailYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual
Thanks to all that replied. I appreciate your time and information. 73 Tim KD5CKP Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron model 39 manual
I have about 4 to 6 of the 39 and happy with them. I have never had a book on them but if you use the 38 book it will help you. the rest will be on the display. I have a number 38 I would like to trade for the 39 John - Original Message - From: rel60411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] zetron model 39 manual I pickup a M39 repeater controller to build a ham repeater on 2M the zetron people don't have manual. Anyone have one ? rel60411 Bob Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38Max Question
yes hold the reset down after powering up the unit for 10 seconds it will reset all to factory default Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38Max Question
The manual says, page 4-61 : with DTMF send 3282# 2532# Will clear all memory, and setup default settings. Hope this helps. Juan - Original Message - From: bretb9 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 7:56 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38Max Question Hello, I picked up a Zetron 38 Max repeater controller at a hamfest andthe seller did not know the password. The default does not work. Isthere a hardware reset I can perform to reset to default values ? I amaccessing the controller via RS232 Thanks, BretYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A wanted in UK
Dave, I have a Philips badged version of the 38A in use on GB3DX to lockout audio on the main Rx when remote rxs are in use. The unit seems to decode into the noise more than any mobile/portable set. I think a spare unit is available- contact me off list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian-G8PWE -Walsall www.gb3dx.com - Original Message - From: dave_g7uzn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A wanted in UK Hi All, I'm after a Zetron 38A contoller for a repeater project in the UK..Anyone got one lurking please? Cheers Dave G7UZN Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 39
Hi, Thanks for the reply, I don't have problem programming the unit via the panel or through a computer. But I need the ability to turn off/on a user or some other feature remotely via dtmf. I have two model 38's that work fine, thought the dtmf codes would be the same for both. Seems that the model 39 has different codes for some functions. Thanks for your help, Ken - FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com - Original Message - From: Maire Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetrom Model 39 I have a number of them and we program them from the front panel. Just answer the display questions. should be no problem. - Original Message - From: K2ATT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetrom Model 39 Hi, Anybody have a manual for a Zetron Model 39 controller they'd like to sell or copy. I have the unit working, but the dtmf commands seen to be different from the Model 38. At the very least I need the dtmf codes. Tried Zetron but they weren't very helpful, the unit is out of production. Thanks, Ken - FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A
Try this link to a PDF on Zetron's site for the Z38A It may be what you need. http://www.zetron.com/pages/english/specpdf/38maxspc.pdf Good luck, Martin W4FOT == -Original Message- From: mdnosliw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 5:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Anyone have a clue how to program this controller. I picked up a MSF500 repeater that has one. Have tried conectiing to the serial port and it does not seem to talk. Zetron has offered to sell me a book for $35 but it is not for the older model I have. Any help apreciated. Mark KB1IOZ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron M 35 Patch
Title: Zetron M 35 Patch try location 54 - Original Message - From: Steve Bosshard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron M 35 Patch Anyone have an easy way to add an inline box that will automatically dial 9 through a pbx for an outside line on an interconnect, or specifically how to make a Zetron Model 35 do this? I am trying to avoid a user having to dial 9 for an outside line on an interconnect. Thanks, Steve Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 35
Hi Steve I do appologise that I have not gotten back to you-I can not find it amoungst my files but my ex place of work does have a copy so I will get it from them perhaps tonight or tomorrow. Regards Bradley Glen ZS5WT --- Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Glen, any luck on the Model 35? Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 35
Hi Glen, any luck on the Model 35? Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
