Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year
You make my point about Lance vs Bonds. What is it about hitting a fastball that makes it a more redeeming athletic endeavour than hitting a bullseye? And I'm not putting down either. Regards,, Martin Randall Northam wrote: Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To anybody who doesn't know, Darts involves fat men with a pint or two of beer throwing pointed objects from a few feet at a cork board with strange markings. It is not a sport or even a skill it is a pasttime which should be confined to pubs and bars. Usually the Brits win, which should tell you a lot about our prowess as a sporting nation, but now a Canadian is the world champion (how many countries play darts you might ask for it to be a true world championship) and I see the start of a slippery slope for Canada. But there is hope. Part beat Phil the power Taylor and those who know about these things said the reason Taylor was beaten after eight years was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote: Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row.
Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year
Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To anybody who doesn't know, Darts involves fat men with a pint or two of beer throwing pointed objects from a few feet at a cork board with strange markings. It is not a sport or even a skill it is a pasttime which should be confined to pubs and bars. Usually the Brits win, which should tell you a lot about our prowess as a sporting nation, but now a Canadian is the world champion (how many countries play darts you might ask for it to be a true world championship) and I see the start of a slippery slope for Canada. But there is hope. Part beat Phil the power Taylor and those who know about these things said the reason Taylor was beaten after eight years was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote: Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row.
Re: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs???
Just curious, how many of Barton's 20 years of championships came after the demise of Blinn? The Austin American-Statesman had a long article on the Blinn program at the time it was dropped and I remember a Blinn spokesman specifically saying that they needed to add a women's sport (softball or soccer, I can't remember exactly) and they didn't have the money for both. s.devereaux --- Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re. Blinn, was there a TFN or SI story that mentioned something about one reason the track program was dropped was because it got more media attention than the football team? http://www.njcaa.org/sports.cfm?menu=1sid=41cid=1415divid=0gender=mslid=23 Smith takes over assistant spot for Barton County track Release by Mike Marzolf Steve Smith stepped into a situation many would love to have -- coaching some of the best athletes in the world. Smith gets that opportunity as the new assistant track coach at Barton County Community College. Smith takes over for Lyles Lashley, who moved up to head coach when Lance Brauman accepted a job at the University of Arkansas. Smith will be in charge of sprints and jumps, placing him at the helm of several World Class athletes, including Veronica Campbell and Tyson Gay just to name a couple. http://www.njcaa.org/sports.cfm?sid=41menu=8gender=mslid=23 NJCAA MEN'S INDOOR TRACK FIELD NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP Manhattan, KS - March 1-2, 2002 2002 FINAL RESULTS 1 Barton County CC, Great Bend, KS 203 2 Wallace State CC-Hanceville, AL 73 3 Butler County CC, El Dorado, KS 48 Gerald Woodward wrote: Tony, Barton may have almost 20 years of championships, but Blinn holds National JC records! Many of its track team members have gone on to world class performances at 4 year colleges and in international meets. Most TF aficionados know who Blinn JC is. I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about TF, but have never heard of Barton before? Gerald __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: re: Mascot HEY JILL
You mean Crowley, Layden, Stuhldreher and Miller? my guess is, Apocalypse didn't make it, since they're saying 5 finalists. If Apoc. was the winner, the four finalists would be famine, pestilence... From: Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:23:08 -0500 To: 'Dan Kaplan' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: re: Mascot HEY JILL The usatf website says voting for the finalists begins today. The longer this thread gets kicked around, the more impatient I am to find out the five finalists. Did Apocolypse make it? Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year
1. Your opponent isn't moving the bullseye to cause you to miss; 2. The bullseye is substantially larger; 3. There is no need to react to the movement and differing speeds of the bullseye; 4. There are far fewer great athletes throwing darts. At 6:12 AM -0500 08.01.2003, Martin J. Dixon wrote: You make my point about Lance vs Bonds. What is it about hitting a fastball that makes it a more redeeming athletic endeavour than hitting a bullseye? And I'm not putting down either. Regards,, Martin Randall Northam wrote: Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To anybody who doesn't know, Darts involves fat men with a pint or two of beer throwing pointed objects from a few feet at a cork board with strange markings. It is not a sport or even a skill it is a pasttime which should be confined to pubs and bars. Usually the Brits win, which should tell you a lot about our prowess as a sporting nation, but now a Canadian is the world champion (how many countries play darts you might ask for it to be a true world championship) and I see the start of a slippery slope for Canada. But there is hope. Part beat Phil the power Taylor and those who know about these things said the reason Taylor was beaten after eight years was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote: Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year
From: Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:53:32 -0500 To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year 1. Your opponent isn't moving the bullseye to cause you to miss; You mean when I'm flinging away down at the local there's some other factor at play when the damned board won't stand still? gh
RE: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs???
-- Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blinn Junior College. Just a JC, but arguably the greatest JC track program of all time. They cut it but kept men's tennis because men's tennis had a better quality of student athlete. Read: Rich white kids. Didn't Blinn have a majority of foreign athletes on its track teams? Perhaps better quality of student athlete meant local kids? Jason ___ Jason Blank Hopkins Marine Station Enloe HS '92, Duke '96, Stanford ??Oceanview Boulevard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Grove, CA 93950 I couldn't believe he said it in 1980, let alone 2002. These kinds of appeals to the racist right have been the G.O.P.'s dirty little secret for years. -- Joseph Crespino, historian, on Trent Lott ___
Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year
Let's not be so critical of Darts. This is truly one of the world's great games. In fact, I was a member of a team in the early 1970's in Westwood while in grad school at UCLA. I was the only non-Brit on the team of 8. We played 301 and cricket exclusively. Not the cricket with the bats and balls!! Darts is one hell of a hand-eye coordination game, just like pool and golf, but don't get me started with golf. Just please remember that golf is a game, like pool and darts, not an athletic endeavor. I do remember that the Ye Ole Mucky Duck, one of our competitive bars, had Tom Jones on their team. Yes, that Tom Jones!! He was a hell of a player and a really fun guy. I played competitively for 6 years and won a hell of lot of money in the process. Even today, I have a board in my garage and toss the darts every so often while thinking about the next track project!! Scott Randall Northam wrote: Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To anybody who doesn't know, Darts involves fat men with a pint or two of beer throwing pointed objects from a few feet at a cork board with strange markings. It is not a sport or even a skill it is a pasttime which should be confined to pubs and bars. Usually the Brits win, which should tell you a lot about our prowess as a sporting nation, but now a Canadian is the world champion (how many countries play darts you might ask for it to be a true world championship) and I see the start of a slippery slope for Canada. But there is hope. Part beat Phil the power Taylor and those who know about these things said the reason Taylor was beaten after eight years was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote: Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row.
Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year
2. The bullseye is substantially larger What game are we talking about here? Regards, Martin Dave Johnson wrote: 1. Your opponent isn't moving the bullseye to cause you to miss; 2. The bullseye is substantially larger; 3. There is no need to react to the movement and differing speeds of the bullseye; 4. There are far fewer great athletes throwing darts. At 6:12 AM -0500 08.01.2003, Martin J. Dixon wrote: You make my point about Lance vs Bonds. What is it about hitting a fastball that makes it a more redeeming athletic endeavour than hitting a bullseye? And I'm not putting down either. Regards,, Martin Randall Northam wrote: Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To anybody who doesn't know, Darts involves fat men with a pint or two of beer throwing pointed objects from a few feet at a cork board with strange markings. It is not a sport or even a skill it is a pasttime which should be confined to pubs and bars. Usually the Brits win, which should tell you a lot about our prowess as a sporting nation, but now a Canadian is the world champion (how many countries play darts you might ask for it to be a true world championship) and I see the start of a slippery slope for Canada. But there is hope. Part beat Phil the power Taylor and those who know about these things said the reason Taylor was beaten after eight years was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote: Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Gene-doping
If we want to stop gene doping someone had better jump in a time machine and travel back a million years to the Rift Valley and stop it at the source. :-) sideshow
t-and-f: Big drug dq from NYC Marathon
FROM THE NY ROAD RUNNERS: Dear Running Writer: Please find below important news about the New York City Marathon. Please contact us with any questions or follow up that you might have on this matter. Richard Finn/Amie Desautels NYC Marathon Press 212 423-2229/294 NEW YORK CITY MARATHON THIRD PLACE FINISHER OLIVERA JEVTIC DISQUALIFIED NEW YORK, Jan. 8 - Olivera Jevtic of Yugoslavia, the third place finisher in the 2002 New York City Marathon, has been disqualified from the race and stripped of her prize money due to a positive drug test, it was announced today by New York Road Runners officials. Jevtic, 25, was found guilty of a using the banned substance ephedrine by the Yugoslavian Federation acting in accordance with IAAF rules. The Federation issued Jevtic a public warning but did not suspend her from any future competition. The revised official results for the November 3 race are Kenyan Esther Kiplagat third, American Marla Runyan fourth, and Margaret Okayo of Kenya fifth. Runyan's fourth place finish equals the best showing by an American woman at the five-borough race since Kim Jones in 1996. American Milena Glusac moved from 10th to ninth place. All prize money will be adjusted accordingly. We are saddened to have to make this announcement for Olivera on what seems to been an innocent mistake, but heartened by the fact that the procedures put into place by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency and USA Track Field are very much working, said race director Allan Steinfeld. BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:3.0 PRODID:-//Gordano//NONSGML GMS WebMail 8.00.3078//EN FN: N: EMAIL;TYPE=INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] END:VCARD -- All messages composed, sent or received on the internal or external electronic mail system are and remain the property of New York Road Runners (NYRR). They are not the private or confidential property of any employee, contractor or agent. NYRR retains the right to review, audit, intercept, access and disclose any information created, received or sent via its e-mail systems.
t-and-f: The Ton Dudes
Tracksters (and others) who play competitve darts: Scott Davis Tom Jones Bill Dellinger malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: Randall Northam Cc: Martin J. Dixon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year Let's not be so critical of Darts. This is truly one of the world's great games. In fact, I was a member of a team in the early 1970's in Westwood while in grad school at UCLA. I was the only non-Brit on the team of 8. We played 301 and cricket exclusively. Not the cricket with the bats and balls!! Darts is one hell of a hand-eye coordination game, just like pool and golf, but don't get me started with golf. Just please remember that golf is a game, like pool and darts, not an athletic endeavor. I do remember that the Ye Ole Mucky Duck, one of our competitive bars, had Tom Jones on their team. Yes, that Tom Jones!! He was a hell of a player and a really fun guy. I played competitively for 6 years and won a hell of lot of money in the process. Even today, I have a board in my garage and toss the darts every so often while thinking about the next track project!! Scott Randall Northam wrote: Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To anybody who doesn't know, Darts involves fat men with a pint or two of beer throwing pointed objects from a few feet at a cork board with strange markings. It is not a sport or even a skill it is a pasttime which should be confined to pubs and bars. Usually the Brits win, which should tell you a lot about our prowess as a sporting nation, but now a Canadian is the world champion (how many countries play darts you might ask for it to be a true world championship) and I see the start of a slippery slope for Canada. But there is hope. Part beat Phil the power Taylor and those who know about these things said the reason Taylor was beaten after eight years was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote: Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row.
RE: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year
Blinn's finest hour was one of its last. At the Texas Relays one year, the USA 4x100 team was the featured attraction -- Carl Lewis and his crew. At the end of the meet, they had a match race in the 4x4 with Blinn -- and Blinn won by a nose. The times were actually a bit slower than Baylor ran in the main division, and of course none of the guys on Team USA were quarter-milers. Still it was darn entertaining. Texas would schedule a dual with Blinn every now and again, more or less just so they could get stomped and Stan Huntsman could use that as proof that Division I schools need more scholarships. I'm tired of seeing 23-foot long jumper, was how he famously put it one year. Regarding another post on this thread, I do imagine the foreigners/local kids angle with regard to the tennis program played a factor. Probably a big one. Still, Blinndergarden acting like academics and image are a big deal is kind of ludicrous. -Original Message- From: magpie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:40 PM To: Bloomquist, Bret Subject:RE: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs??? not just dual meets, either. barton was/is good, but blinn was just dominant, period - they were the arkansas of juco tf and they had a winning streak at juco nationals to back it up. rumor has it that the major relay meets created the current competition divisions (i.e. 'university' 'college open') specifically because blinn would roll into town and make the big, bad university boys look bad by thumping them around the track. - a san jacinto college ex (another good program (both men's and women's) scuttled) p.s. i really have to wonder why in the hell a juco is concerned with 'quality of students' when all you really have to do to get accepted is to graduate from high school - simple solution, raise the entrance requirements, if the stated aim is indeed a sincere one. if i had to guess, i would say that higher educational opportunities (any) for black youth are at much more of a premium than those for rich white kids (due to following reasons) - who i would venture to say are just coasting through because they did not have the game for d1, d2, d3, naia - if they do not have the head for it, either, then i would also have to question the worth of their scholarships, and would then have to go into the considerations of the major discrepancies in education (and therefore opportunities) which exist between products of rich white suburban school districts and poor inner city primarily minority school districts as well as poor rural school districts, etc. but that is just my opinion, i could be wrong . . . did not mean to get off on a rant there. === We ask for information, but are interested most in what confirms our opinions. -- Source Unknown --- Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The medicre tennis team was 100 percent white kids, mostly upper-middle class. The perennial national champion track team was mostly black. Maybe that is irrelevant to the better quality of student-athlete reference, but it looked fishy. Quite a few people, and not just the NAACP chapter but a number of white people in the track community, questioned whether there was a thinly veiled racial aspect of all this. By the way, I'll straight up call the Blinn teams of the 1980s the best dual meet teams, at any level, in US collegiate track. They took on UTexas in a dual meet and beat them by about 100 points. Of course that's because they were offering three times as many scholarships as any Division I. -Original Message- From:Rich Harrington [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:13 PM To: Bloomquist, Bret; 'Scott Davis'; david lesley Cc: ghill; track list Subject: RE: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs??? Why the racial reference? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bloomquist, Bret Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:21 PM To: 'Scott Davis'; david lesley Cc: ghill; track list Subject: RE: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs??? Blinn Junior College. Just a JC, but arguably the greatest JC track program of all time. They cut it but kept men's tennis because men's tennis had a better quality of student athlete. Read: Rich white kids. -Original Message- From: Scott Davis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:15 PM To:david lesley Cc:ghill; track list Subject:
Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes
I think Edward James Olmos was goalie on his high school's darts team. From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:30:02 -0500 To: 'Scott Davis' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Randall Northam' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Martin J. Dixon' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes Tracksters (and others) who play competitve darts: Scott Davis Tom Jones Bill Dellinger malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: Randall Northam Cc: Martin J. Dixon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year Let's not be so critical of Darts. This is truly one of the world's great games. In fact, I was a member of a team in the early 1970's in Westwood while in grad school at UCLA. I was the only non-Brit on the team of 8. We played 301 and cricket exclusively. Not the cricket with the bats and balls!! Darts is one hell of a hand-eye coordination game, just like pool and golf, but don't get me started with golf. Just please remember that golf is a game, like pool and darts, not an athletic endeavor. I do remember that the Ye Ole Mucky Duck, one of our competitive bars, had Tom Jones on their team. Yes, that Tom Jones!! He was a hell of a player and a really fun guy. I played competitively for 6 years and won a hell of lot of money in the process. Even today, I have a board in my garage and toss the darts every so often while thinking about the next track project!! Scott Randall Northam wrote: Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To anybody who doesn't know, Darts involves fat men with a pint or two of beer throwing pointed objects from a few feet at a cork board with strange markings. It is not a sport or even a skill it is a pasttime which should be confined to pubs and bars. Usually the Brits win, which should tell you a lot about our prowess as a sporting nation, but now a Canadian is the world champion (how many countries play darts you might ask for it to be a true world championship) and I see the start of a slippery slope for Canada. But there is hope. Part beat Phil the power Taylor and those who know about these things said the reason Taylor was beaten after eight years was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote: Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row.
Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes
Bill Roe Charles Wandler At 11:30 AM 1/8/2003, malmo wrote: Tracksters (and others) who play competitve darts: Scott Davis Tom Jones Bill Dellinger malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: Randall Northam Cc: Martin J. Dixon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year Let's not be so critical of Darts. This is truly one of the world's great games. In fact, I was a member of a team in the early 1970's in Westwood while in grad school at UCLA. I was the only non-Brit on the team of 8. We played 301 and cricket exclusively. Not the cricket with the bats and balls!! Darts is one hell of a hand-eye coordination game, just like pool and golf, but don't get me started with golf. Just please remember that golf is a game, like pool and darts, not an athletic endeavor. I do remember that the Ye Ole Mucky Duck, one of our competitive bars, had Tom Jones on their team. Yes, that Tom Jones!! He was a hell of a player and a really fun guy. I played competitively for 6 years and won a hell of lot of money in the process. Even today, I have a board in my garage and toss the darts every so often while thinking about the next track project!! Scott Randall Northam wrote: Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To anybody who doesn't know, Darts involves fat men with a pint or two of beer throwing pointed objects from a few feet at a cork board with strange markings. It is not a sport or even a skill it is a pasttime which should be confined to pubs and bars. Usually the Brits win, which should tell you a lot about our prowess as a sporting nation, but now a Canadian is the world champion (how many countries play darts you might ask for it to be a true world championship) and I see the start of a slippery slope for Canada. But there is hope. Part beat Phil the power Taylor and those who know about these things said the reason Taylor was beaten after eight years was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote: Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row.
Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes
I think Edward James Olmos was goalie on his high school's darts team. Who was point guard?
Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes
obviously, nobody. From: Bob Ramsak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:58:11 -0500 To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes I think Edward James Olmos was goalie on his high school's darts team. Who was point guard?
t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren that TFN used to sell back in the '70s. I wish they were still around, but centerfold photos would be good substitutes. Easy for coaches to remove and post on bulletin boards. Geoff Pietsch Gainesville, FL P.S. Garry is free to use this as letter for TFN is he wishes. I was disappointed/pissed, though, at Garry's nasty humor at the expense of Edward James Olmos. Olmos is, from what I've read, a classy person. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
We in the boonies get it even later. Sled dog delivery takes time. You guys will be talking about the next issue by the time I get mine. Regards, Martin Geoff Pietsch wrote: Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren that TFN used to sell back in the '70s. I wish they were still around, but centerfold photos would be good substitutes. Easy for coaches to remove and post on bulletin boards. Geoff Pietsch Gainesville, FL P.S. Garry is free to use this as letter for TFN is he wishes. I was disappointed/pissed, though, at Garry's nasty humor at the expense of Edward James Olmos. Olmos is, from what I've read, a classy person. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
P.S. Garry is free to use this as letter for TFN is he wishes. I was disappointed/pissed, though, at Garry's nasty humor at the expense of Edward James Olmos. Olmos is, from what I've read, a classy person. It seemed like it was made in a positive way to me - I can't help thinking that Olmos himself might have found it funny. - Ed Parrot
t-and-f: USATF News Notes: January 8, 2002
Contact:Melvin Jackson II Communications Coordinator USA Track Field (317) 261-0478 x322 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News Notes Volume 4, Number 3 January 8, 2003 === In this edition: - Voting to begin for mascot name - Schmertz to share the fast lane - Texas coach transferred to Austin for rehabilitation - Selection races for the 2003 Teva U.S. Mountain Running team announced Voting to begin for mascot name Track and field fans can vote for their favorite USATF mascot name beginning tonight (Wednesday, January 8) online at www.usatf.org. USATF selected the top six name nominations from more than 3,000 submissions. Fans wishing to see the finalists can visit the USATF Web site, and those visitors casting ballots also get to take part in a special bonus round of voting. Standings that display live rankings of top vote-getting names also will be posted. For more information, visit www.usatf.org Schmertz to share the fast lane For 27 years Howard Schmertz served as the director of the world's most renowned indoor invitational track field meet. For this year's event on February 7, he's getting a much appreciated helping hand. After serving for 25 years as the assistant meet director of the Verizon Millrose Games in New York, Schmertz succeeded his late father Fred as the meet director. Now at age 77, Schmertz will share the meet director duties with 50-year-old David Katz. A Millrose official for 23 years, Katz has been the technical director in charge of meet facilities for the annual Madison Square Garden event for six years. Octagon, the sports and event marketing company that owns the meet, made the announcement of Katz's promotion earlier this week. The second event of USATF's 2003 Indoor Golden Spike Tour, the Verizon Millrose Games will take place February 7, and will be televised live on ESPN2 from 7:00 - 9:00 p.m., and on Feb. 8 on NBC from 2:30 - 4:00 p.m. All times Eastern. For more information on USATF's 2003 Indoor Golden Spike Tour visit: www.usatf.org. Texas coach transferred to Austin for rehabilitation Texas women's track and field coach Bev Kearney has returned to Austin, Tex., after injuring her back in a car accident in Florida last month. The 44-year-old Kearney was transferred Monday from Shands Jacksonville Hospital in Florida to St. David's Rehabilitation Center in Austin. Kearney is recovering from two operations on her vertebrae and disc. On Dec. 26 she was a passenger in a sport utility vehicle driven by former hurdler Michelle Freeman that went out of control and rolled several times. Freeman was not seriously injured. The 33-year-old runner's mother, Muriel Wallace, 63, and Texas academic counselor Ilrey Sparks, 40, were killed. Sparks' three-year-old daughter, Imani, survived. Those who wish to contact Kearney over the next several days are asked to do so via email through www.TexasSports.com, or by sending a card or note to: Beverly Kearney (patient), St. David's Rehabilitation Center, Room 326, 1005 E. 32nd Street, Austin, TX 78705. Individuals are asked to refrain from sending flowers or gifts. Selection races for the 2003 Teva U.S. Mountain Running team announced The USATF Mountain Ultra Trail Running Sports Council (MUT) has chosen three venues to host selection races for the Teva U.S. Mountain Running Team. On June 7, the New England USATF Mountain Running Championship will feature a 13.2 km race in Northfield, Mass. Also on June 7, the 10.1 km Teva Spring Run Off in Vail, Colo., will be contested. The final competition will be held August 9 at the Alyeska Mountain Race, in Girdwood, Alaska, consisting of the Women's 7.7 km run and the Men's 11.7 km run. Both courses mirror those slated for the 2003 World Mountain Running Trophy, which will be held at Alyeska Resort in Girwood September 20-21. It is the first time the World Trophy will be held on U.S. soil and only the third time the event will be staged outside Europe. The first U.S. male and female finisher at each of the three selection races will receive an automatic berth on the 2003 Teva U.S. Mountain Running Team, while the first men's USATF finisher at the USATF National Mountain Running Championship also will receive an automatic berth. The remaining members of the squad, three men and two women, will be selected by the MUT Council. The first-ever USATF National Mountain Running Championship will be staged in Vail, Colo., on July 6 with the 25th running of the Vail Hill Climb. # # # PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE: If you would like to respond, please direct your e-mail to the Contact person listed at the top of the text of this message. To be removed from this mailing list or to notify us of a change in your e-mail address, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: ready to vote
Vote for the mascot's name: Cinders Re-run Spike Tailwind Victor E. ZoomByU www.usatf.org gh ps--I'm guessing they're pushing for the last choice in Provo.
t-and-f: Mascot choices
I'm biased, perhaps, because I've thought all along that Spike was the best name (even though that's not one of the heh-heh, much more intriguing names I submitted when given the chance!), but it looks to me as if that's what USATF really wants, because the other 4 names are brutally bad. I think they want Spike to win. It's a good tie-in with the Golden Spike Tour. Indeed, perhaps they should even take to calling him Golden Spike (no Promontory, Utah, pun intended). Could even change the color on him a bit to get some gold in there. gh
Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
and if he doesn't, change it to Richard Boone. From: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:05:43 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold P.S. Garry is free to use this as letter for TFN is he wishes. I was disappointed/pissed, though, at Garry's nasty humor at the expense of Edward James Olmos. Olmos is, from what I've read, a classy person. It seemed like it was made in a positive way to me - I can't help thinking that Olmos himself might have found it funny. - Ed Parrot
Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
Geoff Pietsch wrote: Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren that TFN used to sell back in the '70s. I wish they were still around, but centerfold photos would be good substitutes. Easy for coaches to remove and post on bulletin boards. And there are certainly plenty of female athletes around these days who would make good centerfolds! I still have Amy Acuff's risque calendar up in my home office, with the sado-Stacey Dragila picture prominently displayed. I remember that poster series well. I used to have the Juantorena and John Walker posters but sadly have let them get away from me. I keep telling myself that I'm at least going to get one of the good (but expensive) Prefontaine posters which are still available. But a new series of posters and/or centerfolds would be great. Hell, USATF should be doing this, too. bob
RE: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
In case you've missed it in the last two TFN issues- the email version of Track Newsletter (TFN's results periodical) is now free to TFN magazine subscribers. It will be published 42 times in 2003 and gets emailed every week during the heart of the season with the previous weekends results. You can sign-up at www.trackandfieldnews.com. Just click on the bright red banner in the bottom right-hand corner. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin J. Dixon Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:26 PM To: Geoff Pietsch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold We in the boonies get it even later. Sled dog delivery takes time. You guys will be talking about the next issue by the time I get mine. Regards, Martin Geoff Pietsch wrote: Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren that TFN used to sell back in the '70s. I wish they were still around, but centerfold photos would be good substitutes. Easy for coaches to remove and post on bulletin boards. Geoff Pietsch Gainesville, FL P.S. Garry is free to use this as letter for TFN is he wishes. I was disappointed/pissed, though, at Garry's nasty humor at the expense of Edward James Olmos. Olmos is, from what I've read, a classy person. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: t-and-f: ready to vote
Well, Re-run would be the obvious choice, given the mascot's history. Vote for the mascot's name: Cinders Re-run Spike Tailwind Victor E. ZoomByU www.usatf.org gh ps--I'm guessing they're pushing for the last choice in Provo. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com
RE: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
Agreed. My classroom walls are plastered with TFN covers. I'd love to add more poster size stuff!! -Original Message- From: Bob Duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold Geoff Pietsch wrote: Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren that TFN used to sell back in the '70s. I wish they were still around, but centerfold photos would be good substitutes. Easy for coaches to remove and post on bulletin boards. And there are certainly plenty of female athletes around these days who would make good centerfolds! I still have Amy Acuff's risque calendar up in my home office, with the sado-Stacey Dragila picture prominently displayed. I remember that poster series well. I used to have the Juantorena and John Walker posters but sadly have let them get away from me. I keep telling myself that I'm at least going to get one of the good (but expensive) Prefontaine posters which are still available. But a new series of posters and/or centerfolds would be great. Hell, USATF should be doing this, too. bob
Re: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs???
Didn't Blinn have a majority of foreign athletes on its track teams? Perhaps better quality of student athlete meant local kids? Jason ___ From what I remember that was one of the reasons for dropping track and adding softball was so more kids whose parents paid taxes that supported Blinn could have a chance to be in sports. I thought they actually added two girls sports.
RE: t-and-f: Mascot choices
I voted for Cinders for two reasons. 1. The obvious - he should be burned. 2. Throwback to the old days. -Original Message- From: ghill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:16 PM To: track list Subject: t-and-f: Mascot choices I'm biased, perhaps, because I've thought all along that Spike was the best name (even though that's not one of the heh-heh, much more intriguing names I submitted when given the chance!), but it looks to me as if that's what USATF really wants, because the other 4 names are brutally bad. I think they want Spike to win. It's a good tie-in with the Golden Spike Tour. Indeed, perhaps they should even take to calling him Golden Spike (no Promontory, Utah, pun intended). Could even change the color on him a bit to get some gold in there. gh
RE: t-and-f: Mascot choices
Let me put everyone at ease, since I know you're all nervous about it, that USATF has not tried to slant the voting toward any one name. You'd be surprised at what some people's favorites are, around the office. We'll let the voters speak!! :) jmg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ghill Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:16 PM To: track list Subject: t-and-f: Mascot choices I'm biased, perhaps, because I've thought all along that Spike was the best name (even though that's not one of the heh-heh, much more intriguing names I submitted when given the chance!), but it looks to me as if that's what USATF really wants, because the other 4 names are brutally bad. I think they want Spike to win. It's a good tie-in with the Golden Spike Tour. Indeed, perhaps they should even take to calling him Golden Spike (no Promontory, Utah, pun intended). Could even change the color on him a bit to get some gold in there. gh
Re: t-and-f: ready to vote
Maybe it should be re-tread? From: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:39:53 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: ready to vote Well, Re-run would be the obvious choice, given the mascot's history. Vote for the mascot's name: Cinders Re-run Spike Tailwind Victor E. ZoomByU www.usatf.org gh ps--I'm guessing they're pushing for the last choice in Provo. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com
Re: t-and-f: ready to vote
Wonder if Tailwind enjoys some kind of copyright protection from Nike? And in the same regard, how about Charles Schultz and Rerun? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:22:51 -0600 To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: ready to vote I'm going with Tailwind, as an ironic commentary on the whole issue. And hell - if you're trying to attract kids, nothing like a little flatulence humor! Phil Gary wrote: Maybe it should be re-tread? From: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, Re-run would be the obvious choice, given the mascot's history. Vote for the mascot's name: Cinders Re-run Spike Tailwind Victor E. ZoomByU www.usatf.org gh ps--I'm guessing they're pushing for the last choice in Provo. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com
t-and-f: road trip!
An update on my continued flogging of the prospect of people spending serious time in NorCal come next May-June. The picture just got a little clearer with the news that the Golden West is apparently targeted for June 15. That's a Sunday, the day after the NCAA wraps up, also in Sacto. So, if you were one of the idle rich, this is what you could do without having to move around much at all: May 30-31, NCAA Regional at Stanford June 7, IAAF GP at Stanford (or, zip down to LA and catch Cal State 6-7) (hey, this was supposed to be a NorCal year for State; anybody know why it stayed south?) June 11-14, NCAA in Sacto (only 90M from Stanford) June 15, GWI in Sacto June 19-21, USATF Jr. at Stanford June 19-22, USATF Sr. at Stanford
t-and-f: Third-place finisher in NYC Marathon DQ'd for failed drug test
Third-place finisher in NYC Marathon DQ'd for failed drug test January 8, 2003 NEW YORK (AP) -- New York City Marathon third-place finisher Olivera Jevtic of Yugoslavia was disqualified and stripped of her prize money Wednesday after a positive drug test. Jevtic's national track and field federation determined that she used the banned substance ephedrine, a stimulant that is found in dietary supplements and can cause seizures, strokes or death. The Yugoslavian federation issued Jevtic a public warning but did not suspend her. New York Road Runners officials revised the official results for the Nov. 3 NYC Marathon, placing Esther Kiplagat of Kenya third, Marla Runyan of the United States fourth, and Margaret Okayo of Kenya fifth. Runyan's fourth-place finish matches the best showing by an American woman at the five-borough race since Kim Jones in 1996. American Milena Glusac moved from 10th to ninth place. Prize money will be adjusted accordingly.
Re: t-and-f: ready to vote
On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:24:32 -0800, you wrote: Wonder if Tailwind enjoys some kind of copyright protection from Nike? And in the same regard, how about Charles Schultz and Rerun? Rerun was the fat kid on the 70's sitcom 'What's Happenin': http://www.geocities.com/flipwigjams/RerunsGroove.html RT
Re: t-and-f: ready to vote
Rerun was the fat kid on the 70's sitcom 'What's Happenin': http://www.geocities.com/flipwigjams/RerunsGroove.html Read this one: http://jennyjones.warnerbros.com/cmp/showstuff/greenroom/rerun-body.htm This says that the actor who played the part of 'Rerun' is now trying to lock up rights to the name if he can get it wrested away from Columbia Pictures. Has USATF checked out any legal conflicts with the 'Rerun' moniker? RT
t-and-f: re: Mascot Choices
Random thoughts on the available names: 1. Cinders - what is left of the track at Stony Brook University because the AD wanted better sightlines for football in their new stadium so they left out the track. 2. Re-run - fat kid from 70's sitcom, Hey hey hey, what's happenin Rog! 3. Spike - love crossed, tragic hearted vampire on Buffy. 4. Tailwind - horrible sneaker and Naval sex scandal, dunno which was more embarrassing. 5. Victor E. - Victor Borge is much more entertaining. 6. ZoomByU - Zoomoofadoo (kids animal TV program) is more likely to get their attention. Spike wins, as he's undead, kicks butt hangs with the Slayer! MJR
RE: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year
Wait a minute, first you stated that Blinn's tennis team is all rich white kids. Then , when your agenda is exposed, it's Blinndergarten??? You can't have it both ways... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bloomquist, Bret Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:29 PM To: 'Martin J. Dixon'; Dave Johnson Cc: Randall Northam; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year Blinn's finest hour was one of its last. At the Texas Relays one year, the USA 4x100 team was the featured attraction -- Carl Lewis and his crew. At the end of the meet, they had a match race in the 4x4 with Blinn -- and Blinn won by a nose. The times were actually a bit slower than Baylor ran in the main division, and of course none of the guys on Team USA were quarter-milers. Still it was darn entertaining. Texas would schedule a dual with Blinn every now and again, more or less just so they could get stomped and Stan Huntsman could use that as proof that Division I schools need more scholarships. I'm tired of seeing 23-foot long jumper, was how he famously put it one year. Regarding another post on this thread, I do imagine the foreigners/local kids angle with regard to the tennis program played a factor. Probably a big one. Still, Blinndergarden acting like academics and image are a big deal is kind of ludicrous. -Original Message- From: magpie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:40 PM To: Bloomquist, Bret Subject:RE: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs??? not just dual meets, either. barton was/is good, but blinn was just dominant, period - they were the arkansas of juco tf and they had a winning streak at juco nationals to back it up. rumor has it that the major relay meets created the current competition divisions (i.e. 'university' 'college open') specifically because blinn would roll into town and make the big, bad university boys look bad by thumping them around the track. - a san jacinto college ex (another good program (both men's and women's) scuttled) p.s. i really have to wonder why in the hell a juco is concerned with 'quality of students' when all you really have to do to get accepted is to graduate from high school - simple solution, raise the entrance requirements, if the stated aim is indeed a sincere one. if i had to guess, i would say that higher educational opportunities (any) for black youth are at much more of a premium than those for rich white kids (due to following reasons) - who i would venture to say are just coasting through because they did not have the game for d1, d2, d3, naia - if they do not have the head for it, either, then i would also have to question the worth of their scholarships, and would then have to go into the considerations of the major discrepancies in education (and therefore opportunities) which exist between products of rich white suburban school districts and poor inner city primarily minority school districts as well as poor rural school districts, etc. but that is just my opinion, i could be wrong . . . did not mean to get off on a rant there. === We ask for information, but are interested most in what confirms our opinions. -- Source Unknown --- Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The medicre tennis team was 100 percent white kids, mostly upper-middle class. The perennial national champion track team was mostly black. Maybe that is irrelevant to the better quality of student-athlete reference, but it looked fishy. Quite a few people, and not just the NAACP chapter but a number of white people in the track community, questioned whether there was a thinly veiled racial aspect of all this. By the way, I'll straight up call the Blinn teams of the 1980s the best dual meet teams, at any level, in US collegiate track. They took on UTexas in a dual meet and beat them by about 100 points. Of course that's because they were offering three times as many scholarships as any Division I. -Original Message- From:Rich Harrington [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:13 PM To: Bloomquist, Bret; 'Scott Davis'; david lesley Cc: ghill; track list Subject: RE: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs??? Why the racial reference? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bloomquist, Bret Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:21 PM To: 'Scott Davis'; david lesley Cc: ghill; track list Subject: RE: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs??? Blinn Junior College. Just a JC, but arguably the greatest JC track
RE: t-and-f: re: Mascot Choices
4. Tailwind - horrible sneaker and Naval sex scandal, dunno which was more embarrassing. Make that Tailhook . . . The US Naval Aviators convention that was in Vegas I believe? Paul
Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
ghill wrote: hmmm... that would suggest only 2 possibilities: 1. you're single 2. you're married to Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. Actually, I *did* have a couple of pics of Cassandra Petersen (Elvira) on the walls, too! Not single, but the Widow Duncan has cut me some slack regarding my track fetish! bob
RE: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
But can't something be done to get the staple out of the bellybutton? ;-) -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com
Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
hmmm... that would suggest only 2 possibilities: 1. you're single 2. you're married to Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. gh From: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:22:33 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold And there are certainly plenty of female athletes around these days who would make good centerfolds! I still have Amy Acuff's risque calendar up in my home office, with the sado-Stacey Dragila picture prominently displayed.
Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold
This issue came quick to the Chicago area. Must have been all those state-of-Illinois-related photos. Martin J. Dixon wrote: We in the boonies get it even later. Sled dog delivery takes time. You guys will be talking about the next issue by the time I get mine. Regards, Martin Geoff Pietsch wrote: Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren that TFN used to sell back in the '70s. I wish they were still around, but centerfold photos would be good substitutes. Easy for coaches to remove and post on bulletin boards. Geoff Pietsch Gainesville, FL P.S. Garry is free to use this as letter for TFN is he wishes. I was disappointed/pissed, though, at Garry's nasty humor at the expense of Edward James Olmos. Olmos is, from what I've read, a classy person. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
t-and-f: spin doctoring Blinn
I'm surprised at the stance/memory of some of the Texas members of the list. The public relations machine and the spin doctors can say what they want, but the Blinn track program was murdered from the inside. The head coach alienated just about everyone in the school and out, except one person, the school president. The president provided the funds for the scholarships that in some years totaled more then forty. Hell yes they could beat most D1 programs, struggling along on 12.6 scholarships. And he never missed an opportunity to rub it in their faces either. Likewise his relations with other teams at the school were just as cordial. When the president retired, said coach was left hanging by his thumbs and no shortage of people willing the step on them. I wish I still had the recruiting letter he sent out to Texas high school coaches, outlining what it took to run for Blinn. The standards could have been used for the NCAA D1 meet. In the end there weren't a lot of l! ocals representing the school. San Jacinto JC at least tried to win with area kids. It's never a pretty when a program gets axed, but this one had more soap then the TV show Dallas. Ouch, I think some of my metaphors got twisted.Andy
Re: t-and-f: re: Mascot Choices
I submitted Fartlek also. H? What were the rules for making the short list? I say Fartlek as a write in. Reuben Frank wrote: I still can't believe my entry - Fartlek - didn't make the cut. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: ready to vote
The money saved from the Mascot RD Fund was transferred over to the Mascot Legal Defense Fund. P.S. No copy rights on Fartlek. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has USATF checked out any legal conflicts with the 'Rerun' moniker? RT
