Re: Hidden Clipboard Contents
Todd, you used my favorite word 'obfuscated'. The big question is... where in what application on what platform are you copying from? Some apps might maintain their own copy/paste systems sqb Hello Everyone, I need to get at and mess with some clipboard contents that have been obfuscated somehow. I know that there is data up there stored in an xml Todd Geist ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IDE Strangeness
REV 2.6 - latest build OSX 10.3.9 Powerbook 17 133 I'm having a strange problem with the IDE. I'm working with MySQL and Trevor's DB library (both of which work fine) - but I'm getting unpredictable behavior in the IDE after hours of working out database subroutines and debugging (with the usual errors until one gets it right), and it seems to get worse with time, like a memory leak or something. The symptoms are mainly that, after time, and randomly, important IDE components such as the Inspector, the the Message Box, the Application Browser and the ERROR window will not be brought back to the front after an earlier dismissal. I've tried the usual suspects including downloading the latest fresh version from scratch, trashing the prefs (helped a little) and going back to 2.5.1 but it just seems to keep happening. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Also I remember there was a patch to fix the slow docs problem. I can't seem to find it- does anyone know where it might be found? Thanks! stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Database or large text file processing??
Hello again! I wish to retrieve details about a particular file which are held in a text file, fairly large at about 264000 lines. The file contains details about many One nice thing about a database, especially a remote one, it that it handles everything you need to do with data - store, move, access, calculate in a nice module in a structured way so you can concentrate on your business logic at hand. And multi-user capability is built in. MySQL is very easy to use and the commands are even more simple than Transcript. Many ISPs offer MySQL and other databases that are included with web service (PLUG: Dreamhost). Having the ISP configure the messy parts and maintaining the hardware had removed my final obstacles to using a database. My ISP offers unlimited databases and I don't have to deal with license fees. Highly Recommended to learn about databases with Rev: Sara's Tutorial/ examples http://www.troz.net/Rev/tutorials.html From Sarah's site: --- MySQLtests.rev This stack provides a GUI for testing connections to MySQL databases. It does basic queries as well as editing of tables and records. Not intended for long term use, but I found it helpful when starting to learn about MySQL. MySQL.rev This stack is a simple client for communicating with MySQL servers either on your own computer or remotely. It accepts any MySQL command and displays the results in a simple text-based table form. It is supposed to be similar to the client available when using OS X's Terminal, but does not require that the client server be installed on your computer. --- And when you understand how RevDB works and you move on to your application, then you'll want to use Trevor Devore's DB Library that's a database abstraction library written in Transcript, that makes it all much easier. http://mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/ The earlier 1.x version also includes a simple working example; the newer 2.xx BETA has even more features but no demo yet - and the syntax is slightly different on a few routines. I've used them both and they both work well and the 'upgrade' to the new library amounts to changing a couple of lines in your code. Sarah and Trevor ROCK! sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 Release
So if my studio license ran out last week this won't work for me? thanks sqb (time to get the Enterprise package?) Hi all, This is just a quick note to let you know that Revolution 2.6.1 is now available for download from the usual place: http://downloads.runrev.com Warmest Regards, Mark. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 Release
The bug fix release 2.6.1 of the engine has a lot of fixes that will make many people smile. Download the new version package and read the text file Change_Log_2.6.1.txt (I don't know if I'm allowed to reveal the contents here...) On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Mark Waddingham wrote: This is just a quick note to let you know that Revolution 2.6.1 is now available for download from the usual place: http://downloads.runrev.com Anyone know if there is a Release Notes document for 2.6.1? Being underway in a project, I don't want to update without a compelling reason - 2.6 is working pretty well. Thanks. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev vs. AJAX... Ajax vs TAOO
TAOO! i just wished i knew how to get people intersted in collaborating in this open source manner and project because so far that seems nearly impossible in this rev market... ??? H... I have a folder full of 'open source' freely given code for Rev -- libraries and examples. this doesn't count? sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New date format: YYYY-MM-DD
The numbers come right in line with the Dateitmes conversion... Anyone want to vote for a new standard date format? -MM-DD In fact I believe the above is some standard now... I find myself more and more encountering this as input from systems both of my own creation and from others... Now you have to do a little dance to get that into a convertable string...or am I missing something input: e.g. 06/04/13 tab someData tab SomeMoreData etc set the itemdel to tab put item 1 of line 1 into tDate set the itemdel to / put / item 1 of tDate after tDate delete item 1 of tDate set the itemdel to tab Sivakatirswami -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New date format: YYYY-MM-DD
ok, Ken then function sqbDateTime get the long time convert it to dateitems set the numberformat to 00 return¬ (item 1 of it)+0 - (item 2 of it)+0 - (item 3 of it)+0 ¬ (item 4 of it)+0 : (item 5 of it)+0 : (item 6 of it)+0 end sqbDateTime This returns the Date Time format that MySQL likes for a dateTime field: 2005-10-14 23:34:15 On 10/14/05 8:02 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone want to vote for a new standard date format? -MM-DD The numbers come right in line with the Dateitmes conversion... Yes, but unfortunately the dateItems aren't zero-padded, so for May 5, 2005 you get: 2005,5,5 instead of 2005,05,05 I'd love to see an additional ISO conversion format: convert tDate to ISO date convert tTime to ISO time Mark Waddingham - any chance of getting this into 2.7? :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New date format: YYYY-MM-DD
whoa. That's incredible, Ken. A bit more versatile than my puny routine! sqb Here you go! The function below has more comments than any other function I've written grin. Have fun! Ken Ray -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FORTH and Hypercard
In 1980 I worked with Kenny Jones (now at Digital Domain) at a place called New World Pictures. We worked on a machine called the Elicon, a camera control robot that was programmed in FORTH, and made movie special effects for Roger Corman and others. It was a beautiful piece of work - dc servo motors driven from a huge interface panel and a PDP-11. I liked FORTH a lot. I had an implementation of FORTH for the Apple ][ that screamed. UI was a command line. I also liked a feature of Hypercard that was like forth - you could redefine and intercept a lower level handler using the same name. I guess it was a design decision to not allow that in Transcript but why? sqb Mark, One of the great things about Forth was the overhead of just a few machine language instructions to execute a high level function call. Transcript seems to require a trip around the world to jump next door. For GUI speed stuff, it would not be a problem, but for my array crunching stuff, I am stuck writing everything in one handler to keep the speed up. The convenience of having an environment like that would be very tempting to use for whatever could stand the overhead --and that might be quit a lot of applications. Dennis -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Looking for a cheap web hosting ISP - Go Dreamhost!
Dreamhost has been adding new features, more bandwidth, and more storage every month for each customer. They always seem to give more stuff as time goes on, with no increase in price. I know it sounds idealistic, but its true. And there's now no limit to the number of real domains. They also offer more programming tools than anyone else. All the servers are Debian Linux and the focus is definitely non-Microsoft but they'll let you host a Frontpage document if you really have to. They're currently running 4.1.14-Debian_3. Their servers are in the Long Beach area, connected directly to one of the biggest pipes in the country through multiple ports. Their uptime is extraordinary (and they tell you what is happening when in the rare case it's not up with an out-of-their-network web page) and the control panel software (that they wrote) is really good - Point and click for all server functions. Finally they are Linux/Perl/Open Source geeks and have included 'one click' installs for many goodies including Gallery and Wordpress. I spent a couple of years searching for a host like this. I usually don't evangelize anymore, but this is a good one. They have great plans for around 10 buck/month and their 'Code Monster' plan for 20 is also useful to me. On 10/19/05 6:58 PM, Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a reasonable priced ISP to host some of my web site. [reasonable == cheap !!] I would strongly recommend Hostway (www.hostway.com)... really fast servers, full Rev CGI support (I'm running mine now), with low prices ($8.95 USD per month for 150MB, $13.95 for the 'Gold' plan with 600MB of storage - I'm using the 'Gold Plus' plan at $19.95 for 800MB of storage). The guy I spoke with even let me try it out free for a month, with no strings attached! Ken Ray -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Metal button
Except there is NO $%^##$% MAC VERSION of Button Gadget... long, long ago, there used to be...OS9? It had a few bugs but it worked... I've been meaning to ask Chipp: What is it about Windoze that makes it work? Wasn't it written in Transcript? Or is it just about priorities/time (which I fully understand)? Quoting René Micout [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, How can I make metal button aspect like, for example, in iPhoto You could do what I did and buy Button-Gadget Pro from Altuit. http://www.buttongadget.com/buttongadget/AboutButtonGadget.htm Her you can see a screenshot. bob -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: strange issue
I've been 'superstitious' about using identical names for props, vars or objects for awhile... another reason to use labeling conventions I guess... pParameter tLocalVariable gGlobalVariable cCustomProperty (or kCustomProperty?) Seriously scared: If rev cannot differentiate between globalname and customproperty[] of control there may be many more errors going to be present elsewhere. Xavier -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange issue
yeah, I was wrong, I did it from memory. Of course I've seen and used the suggested forms by Richard. Mark Wieder wrote: pParameter tLocalVariable gGlobalVariable cCustomProperty (or kCustomProperty?) I've come around to the convention of using uCustomProperty for my own custom properties. and kConstant (never got out of that habit)... Me too. c is commonly used to denote classes in OOP languages, and plans for OOP extensions to Transcript have been part of the plan for some time now. So in my shop we're reserving the c prefix for those extensions, and use u (for user-defined property) instead. -- Richard Gaskin -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
But one will never know whether it was coincidence or not unless one uses a special email address for Paypal transactions. I have never gotten a 'phishing' email from anyone using the special email address I created. This is highly recommended if you can have multiple addresses or aliases on your email account. I just used my Paypal for a transaction yesterday after a long period of not using it. Today I have been Phished twice by phony Paypal emails and sites! Dennis -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Phishy Paypal -- reinstalling OS helps?
You could also get a Mac, and save a ton of money on that anti-virus crap! (never bought virus protection, never will.) Doesn't it seem silly that you have to buy all those add-ons just to run your machine? And if it's required for operation, isn't that the job and duty of the operating system? On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Erik Hansen wrote: i did reinstall Windows. should that solve my problems? It can always help. Of course, it's STILL Windows. ;-) Firewall, AntiVirus, Anti-Spyware, Adaware, RootKit detection, and very judicious downloading are all highly recommended. Wow, whenever I read that list, I always wonder if it's worth it. -- Troy -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: OpenSockets and multiple stacks...?
And 'Refresh Now' could be accomplished by the Transcript 'Revert' command. Another solution, following along these lines... If the classroom network has a shared drive, then you can use tcp connections to send a message to each computer that simple says refresh now or something like that. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revdocs on a wiki
And I've heard in the case of BIG mistakes, a good Wiki can be 'rolled-back' easily by the admin and the offender unsubscribed if there's mischief. Timothy Miller wrote: Sure, some users would bloat entries. But then, other users would prune them. When I look at the wikipedia, the entries I see are remarkably concise. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: checking removable drives
X, We Mac OSX users don't need to run ANY antivirus software, if we're on a router-buffered LAN. It's just not an issue. I don't know what they would protect us from... And yes all 4 of my G4's are on an internet-connected lan. I gave up on Symantic/Norton for disk repair about 4 years ago. Junk. sqb I wonder, does NAV for mac interupt every applescript using a file? I remember NAV being installed on my old mac, and this rogue applet sending all my files to the trash without peep from NAV!!! Symantec products had a good track record fixing MacOS drives' follies in the old days where Apple's Disk First Aid came too short but later on PCs, pretty much every norton product caused major problems over and over... -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: TreeView in Revolution!!
I just got an email from Luis L. Rodíguez Oro, who asked me to offer his stack to the list. I guess he feels his English isn't good enough. I don't know about that - looks fine to me - but anyway his stack TreeView in Revolution was nicely done, and my normally crusty self felt I owed it to the list to get it out there. It's a remarkable, well-written and visually pretty Tree View in Revolution, with routines to import tab delimited text files. Well-commented code, but of course in Spanish. Reads pretty easy anyway. For now I'll place it on my server at this URL. You'll need to unstuff it. http://upload.barncard.com/TreeView2.5.zip From: Luis L. Rodíguez Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TreeView in Revolution!! Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:19:29 -0500 Hello. Could you send the attachment to your revolution List? I don't speak much english! :( Report the Bugs to my emails Thank you very much Best Regard Luis L. Rodríguez Oro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Access Address Book or iCal
iCal uses an industry standard format - and it's XML. The files live in the library somewhere... On 21 feb Joel Guillod asked for this: Is there a way to access to the Mac OS X Address Book from Revolution? I found that RealBasic provides classes to do this so you can read from or write to the Address Book. Someone knows a way to access Address Book or iCal files without using AppleScript? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dial Phone?
One has to come up with the tones alone. I just fired up Hypercard 2.4.1 in Classic and played with the tones for a minute. I think the timing was thrown off by the G4, as it would not loop the samples correctly anymore - something in the code times out and the tones go 'da-da' instead of 'da' for a single number... Rev has no 'Dial' command, as Hypercard did. In HC, the little samples were only a few cycles long and were looped to get the right timing. I have the raw DTMF tones stolen from HC and converted to WAV and AIFF - I'll offer them at http://barncard.com/dial_sounds.zip . The zip is 44k in size. In Rev you might use the PLAY command with the LOOPING option - but I've never done this. It might be easier to put the tones into an audio editor and cut-paste the tones to the right timing. At that point it might be even better to get a good phone patch for an hour and record all the samples you need from a real phone! I'll leave the files up for a few hours. sqb Hi Everyone, Is it possible to set up a field so that when you click on a phone number in it the touch tones for the number are broadcast through the computer speaker? Joe, Orlando, Florida -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Controlling External Devices
On quick glance, I don't think hooking up REV to this thing would be that hard. Looking at this company's broad offerings for OSX and 9, and the fact that they've created software hooks for almost every other programming platform (including HC on OS 9) - They seem open and flexible. I think that if someone had a project in REV that could use their product that they would be pleased as hell and would probably bend over backwards to help develop the needed externals to use with REV. Then they could add REV to their list of supported. I have a feeling the application-specific code is quite small; this is what is installed on the host machine with their installer: The installation program SERVICE USB.pkg installs the driver, which consists of the following components: /Library/Frameworks/Service USB Driver.framework Contains Frameworks, which contains all control applications for SERVICE USB. /Library/ScriptingAdditions/SERVICE USB.osax Contains the AppleScript support. /Library/Receipts/SERVICE USB.pkg Contains the installation program. The Receipts folder gives an overview of the enhancements that have already been installed on the computer. /Library/StartupItems/SERVICE_USB_FirmwareLoader Ensures that a background process (Daemon) begins, which loads the firmware into the interface if necessary. I just discovered a USB I/O device in Germany that can be used from Revolution. However, it uses AppleScript to talk to the hardware. It works under OS9 and OSX. http://www.bkohg.com/index_e.html Robert -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Fwd: Revolution and SERVICE USB -hardware control with REV
Continuing the thread about machine control... I read the specs from http://www.bkohg.de/service_e.html and wrote requesting info about more directly connecting Rev. Marco Bönig wrote back and suggested using their Applescript interface. Would there be an advantage in having an XCMD do this instead of Applescript? Would there be some latency in using Applescript instead of directly? I don't need this now, but I figure sometime in the future I will. I often end up in strange hardware-software lashups. stephen barncard From: Marco Bönig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Revolution and SERVICE USB Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:52:35 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mr. Barncard, it's funny. We got a lot of requests about Revolution and we think, we had forgotten to support Revolution. Sorry for that. However, we tested our Interface on MacOSX with Revolution and it works. Revolution can control AppleScript and AppleScript can control SERVICE USB plus. For example, to set the output value to 85 (= 01010101 binary) the syntax is: do set SERVICE output value 85 as applescript We have no sample stack yet, but we will create a sample stack, starting in a few days. SERVICE USB is a Mac-only product. Maybe it is a good idea to work with Revolution and SERVICE USB on a PC. But we have no resources to handle support for an additional platform, like PC and Windows. Thus we have no plans to create a PC-Version. If you are a hardcore system-programmer, we can explain the SERVICE USB low level protocol to you and try to help creating a PC Version. best regards Marco Boenig Marco Bönig mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bönig und Kallenbach oHG Tel. 0231/753650 Lindemannstr. 25 Fax: 0231/753659 D-44137 Dortmund http://bkohg.com Am 04.11.2005 um 21:18 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think you have a great product, with many uses. I use a software platform called Runtime Revolution http://www.runrev.com/ - it's an evolution of an earlier product called Metacard. It's a RAD that is the clear and superior succesor to Hypercard. Since it appears that you have created middleware for almost every other development platform, I wonder if you would consider helping us Rev users get connected to your interfaces. You'll find a lot of folks that will help you do it on our rather friendly email list. Right now I'd be happy with a Mac XCMD that would work with Rev, but I'm sure the others would love a PC version at some point. OR perhaps you have a SDK that might point the way. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolutionary in Cuba
Once again, Rev user Luis L. Rodíguez Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] of Cuba has sent me his latest version of Tree View... I'm guessing Mr. Oro might have some difficulty getting anything but email in and out of Cuba. From what I gather, their phone system isn't really great, let alone internet connectivity. Also to consider is the political situation - ?? For whatever reason, Luis is not able to use either a site of his own or Revolution Online, so I am offering this stack update on behalf of him. Great coding and use of Rev features. It's quite nice looking and also shows the use of a bg group as a floating, transparent palette that stays within the window bounds... there's only one thing...all the remarks and most of the variables are in Spanish! But hey, just use Babelfish! Anyway, here is the link http://upload.barncard.com/TreeV2.6.0.rev.zip I can't help but appreciate the irony of a Rev Revolutionary in Cuba. I think this is incredible. Welcome Luis, to our growing band of inventive users! And may Cuba be able to freely trade with the USA someday... sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Speaking of opensource
Two articles i saw today: one in slashdot: Paris going opensource http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/05/11/21/180220.shtml?tid=185tid=219 And that link goes to another link - and deep inside the article a chestnut: http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1941298570;fp;16;fpid;0 This strategic direction resulted in the interconnection of the city authority's scattered offices, and a plan to replace or upgrade the many applications on which the city relies. Paris plans to introduce a new payroll system on Jan. 1, and then replace other elements of its accounting, purchasing and human resources management systems through 2007 and 2008. Would-be suppliers of these applications must show that their products can be integrated at the desktop and server levels with free software components, the city said. Bids based on open-source software will be considered on the same basis as bids using proprietary software, it said. Mr. X, Eric, Frederic and the other French Revolutionaries will have a lot more work soon!! There will always be a need for Rev apps to glue it all together. Congratulations. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: TreeView in Revolution!!
Luis sent me an update - you didn't catch my follow-up email... http://upload.barncard.com/TreeV2.6.0.rev.zip It's all in Spanish, but it's pretty easy to figure out. Well done. I assume Luis couldn't get or is not allowed to visit the web, hence I guess I was elected at random to help him get it out there to the Rev community. He says he doesn't speak English that well, but you could probably communicate with him at darkroll0x001 at yahoo.es Hi, I'm new to Revolution (like today new) and I have to admit that I was a bit surprised that there is no tree view in Revolution. Lack of a tree isn't going to kill me, but it would be nice. I'm also a little surprised that nobody has commented on this post... what am I missing? At any rate, the URL below doesn't seem to work for me. Is there an alternative URL? Thanks, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Polling Search Engines
If your app is really that useful, why don't you make the API ID customizable so the user can obtain his/her own id?? Perhaps streamline or explain the application process for the user. Google happy, you happy, client happy. This will defer any harm to you. And it might be hard for one person to use 1000/queries/day. sqb Martin- Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 1:04:19 AM, you wrote: http://www.google.com/apis/index.html for how to sign up for a developer key for the Google APIs. Last I heard you get 1000 queries per day, each of which may return max 10 results. And therein lies the rub. If I, say, create an app that uses the Google API it's linked to my Google developer id. If I then distribute that app, my developer id is responsible for *all* those accumulated queries. If my app becomes wildly popular and 1001 people -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This is what REALLY SUCKS about RunRev! - was Menubar Help
Dave, it's cool. Take a deep breath. You've got a lot of love in the room on this list. Complaining, making threats and playing the role of the disgruntled customer won't go as far here as calm discussion. Please be careful about dissing Runrev in particular - your careless comments could scare away lurkers - potential runrev users (and therefore a healthier business, with continued development, etc). I have no doubt that you will find help in this place within hours. The best scripters in the world hang out here. This stage (OUTRAGE+Confusion) is typical of one's self-education in using rev. Either it will be fixed in the next revision or we write a thing to go around it for now. As far as I'm concerned the gains in using this erector set far outweighs any glitches I encounter. Are you angry enough to write your own Menu Maker? It can be done. What Gives? Why is this SUCH a difficult thing to do in RunRev? I don't know any other environment where this is SUCH a big deal, I could have done this 100 times over in C or even PowerPC assembler! Getting to the end of a long day and I have to get this working tonight! I really don't want to have to tell my boss that I can't do this in RunRev and that the support it so bad that you can't even get someone to look at it! All the Best Dave -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Handling Returned Virus Mail
Change your email address. Then for a transition period hook up the old address to a auto-responder to direct people to a web page with a small cgi that can forward a small message. Like this: http://barncard.com/contact/ The people that really need to get to you can still do so, and you can send a mass email to close associates. I know it's painful to change a cherished address, but it's really the best way. At some point, when the email address ends up on lists, one has no chance. I've written about 2 dozen rules on my end (Entourage) to weed out the bogus email but with a recent outbreak I've received almost 7,000 messages in just the last week. These bounced messages are clogging my server and I need to stay on email duty daily to clear them out. Any suggestions on how to combat this problem? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pricing / entry cost for this tool
Yes, I have an OS9 version right here... sqb I regret that I didn't have a chance to ever work with LiveMotion (was there a Mac version available??? I seem to recall seeing a box in the Judy -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: can't trust htmltext property!
Yes, it would probably work better to roll your own RTF-to-HTML converters. RTF in rev seems to be pretty solid. I notice that rev's htmltext uses simple FONT tags inline, which is pretty old stuff in the web world - in fact not advised. At any rate, the numbers are in font SIZES 1 - xxx? - not pixels, and some text gets to be HUGE when presented in a web browser. Perhaps there's a scaling factor, but... Ideally, an RTF to HTML interpreter would imbed style definitions in the header, and use DIV tags and .classes for styled paragraphs. Sounds like a library to me! I love text-munging projects like this... sqb Hi Folks, why on earth Rev is doing this presentation hack. Put a field on a stack, set the htmltext of the field to h2SOMETHING/h2, now, pull the html text property and you'll end with something like: p/p p/p pfont size=24bSOMETHING/b/font/p p/p p/p ... HELL the thing is even loosing attributes if you use something like p class=footermy text/p when you check the htmltext prop you end up with no attributes. I think it's okay for rev to ignore the attribute but to loose it things should be simpler. Damn! Andre -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Backups Picker plugin
And it has saved my posterior many times... Thanks Eric, I never code without it. Lazy or absent-minded people might be interested, as many in this list ;-) in my Backups Picker plugin that can entirely automate the process (specify a delay, how many backups keep, etc) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CAN REVOLUTION ACHIEVE THIS?
Nicolas, It's not clear whether you just want advice or are offering a project possibility. sqb Dear Fellow Revolution Users, I have recently come across the revolution software and am quite impressed by it, however am not a developer and thence am requesting your comments and advice as to whether REVOLUTION can support the below described project. This is also an invitation for those advanced users who believe they can achieve the project demands to get in touch with me personally and discuss development in-depth. Kindly feel free to consult me for any clarifications. PROJECT BRIEF There are 25 Kiosks located in cyber cafes and chemists all across the country and the Kiosks are used to process and record discounts issue to card members countrywide. Each Kiosk has one administrator and three attendants. .. This is the core of the system required and your quote should include all the relevant database security options, access levels and reporting options and members registration details. Best Regards NICHOLAS NGINYA The important thing to recognize is that it takes a team, and the team ought to get credit for the wins and the losses. Successes have many fathers, failures have none. Philip Caldwell -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.
YEP. Did it here. Affirmative. MAC OS 10.3.9 Powerbook G4 17 1.33 ghz Latest Rev IDE and engine. Here's the deal. I would very much appreciate it if many of you could test out this simple recipe stack: -Chipp -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why is Konfabulator Pretty?
Bill - it's been done. You should search the list about two months back -- there was a long active thread about creating a clock in Rev in minimum code and processor load. Several on this list were competing for the cleanest, smartest code. It got down to less than 10 lines I think. There must have been 20 versions. I believe for certain that a widget like the Konfabulator clock could be done with Rev, but I don't have the faintest idea of how to begin, and it seems like it would be a big project. (I'm going to start on it right now!) However, Konfabulator seems to make this pretty easy for a casual author. Bill -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: English-like nature of Transcript ?
I have come to the same conclusion - working on a 6-7 stack large project and command and function names like libSQB_CustomPropertyToNewObjectPAIR pOptions,pobjProp1,pobjProp2 libKMR_returnFieldTitlesARRAYFromDatabase pTargetDB, pTableName although verbose, really work for me... I just cut and paste the long names..and prefix most names with the stack name. I have to stop and force myself to think more about and describe what this damn thing does and where else can I use it - and I package (and re-use) a larger quantity of smaller subroutines as a result. sqb Because efficiency of producing original source code leads to gross ineffiency during debugging and subsequently as modifications are made over the life of the software. IMFO, cryptic names and cryptic syntax save one little during initial coding and cost _lots_ over the rest of the life of a project. Rob Cozens CCW Serendipity Software Company -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More on Clocks...
GEESH, that's beautiful, Scott... I guess this will stop the thread for now...amazing.. OK, twist my arm, I did it -- in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/ballclock4.rev; Scott Rossi -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CoreAudio
That's a big one - you might need externals for this...and a realtime audio coder if you can't do it. Do you know if Digidesign has an easily available SDK? Have you seen it? Are you sure you can get it? Surely you can't expect REV to support something this unique natively. The Digi developer scene is highly controlled - you might contact them before investing too much time before. However From the little technically I've discovered about CoreAudio (although I'm a major TDM system user) Coreaudio just seems to 'patch' third party apps in the audio streams system controlled by the OS. Latest versions of Core seem to address 8 or more channels. So theoretically if you can use the proper hooks for audio inside the OS, then 'core' should work. It's a Digidesign shim to connect with Apple, while still putting limits on third-party hardware, nothing more. Perhaps you can accomplish some of this with Quicktime, which now includes stuff for multiple channels. Consider that a little 002 system can be used for surround playback, even if the 'little' Digi systems don't support surround mixing. Also remember that CoreAudio can only work when PT is not running. I am not sure if it will support more than 1 third party app at a time either...and it won't send system sounds to the output -- that's a good thing. sqb hi there folks... first time poster here, pleased to be a part of this community. does anyone out there know anything about getting rev to communicate with os x's coreaudio? i've got a rather involved situation that needs coreaudio support. in a nutshell, i want to be able to matrix audio from several quicktime players to several audio outputs. think surround sound. i assume that what i need is an external to do the heavy lifting, but of course the reason i use rev is that i don't care to muck around in C... any insight, pointers, etc. would be much appreciated. thanks sam -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Why isn't Rev more popular?
Jerry, you seem to have a major attitude problem. You don't get it at all and your 'disgruntled customer' bit doesn't really flow here. Everyone else has been pretty nice I think -- the only real FLAMER here seems to be you!! Stop the bad vibes now - go troll somewhere else, please. sqb Yes, I have been lurking here for months reading the messages on a daily basis. Some of the problems I've encountered in my experimentation with Revolution have indeed been answered here without a need on my part to ask a question. Yes, I purchased Revolution with a specific purpose in mind and, yes, you are correct in deducing that Revolution - despite advertising claims - turned out to be ill-suited for that purpose. .. And with that, all the true believers may continue with their flaming --- never being mindful of how their insubstantial ad hominem strikes those who may wander to this list looking for justification to purchase Revolution. Zealots never seem to understand how they hurt their own cause. Jerry -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?
It appears that our friend Jerry Saperstein hates everyone and everything. Maybe in the 'business' too long... It seems he likes the word zealot. A little research shows many complaints and insults on all kinds of forums and lists. Web Quote: By all means, though, avoid Apple,. While individual users tend to be zealots, the company occupies its miniscule market share for many valid reasons. Web Quote: If you want to utterly waste a few hours of your life, read this book. It has absolutely nothing of redemptive value. No plot. No memorable characters. Nothing. Web Quote: I don't intend to be a critic, but the reality is that I am. ... Web Quote: In my opinion, this knowledge must be acquired on a first-hand basis, not third-hand by inquiring of a mail list where the accuracy of the responses is not known. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.
YEP. Did it here. Affirmative. MAC OS 10.3.9 Powerbook G4 17 1.33 ghz Latest Rev IDE and engine. Here's the deal. I would very much appreciate it if many of you could test out this simple recipe stack: -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why is Konfabulator Pretty?
You should search the list about two months back -- there was a heated thread about creating a clock in minimum code and processor load. Several on this list were competing for the cleanest, smartest code. It got down to less than 10 lines I think. I believe for certain that a widget like the Konfabulator clock could be done with Rev, but I don't have the faintest idea of how to begin, and it seems like it would be a big project. (I'm going to start on it right now!) However, Konfabulator seems to make this pretty easy for a casual author. Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arial--still okay for cross-platform?
Does anyone know whether Arial font is still distributed with all Macs? YES, indeed. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Noob - Databases
Adam, You will find databases a lot easier to use if you employ Trevor's wonderful libraries... works for me... the early version is online with an brief explanation... http://mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/libDatabase_article.html but his beta version 2.0 is much better. Downloadable at http://mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/ scroll down the page Hello everyone: I'm new to the Revolution revolution but in the one day I have been using it, I'm very impressed. I'm am in the process of converting a series of PHP scripts to Revolution. I Adam -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Confirmation
?? WHAT'S THIS? looks like a serial number... Here is the confirmation code number is received. Please add me to the mailing list. 3c5a454ee87119eddc3654d972dc849f0ca716af Edgar Spees -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Protecting server, restricting access
Don't store changing data in the application - even if you could... Use specialFolderPath(Preferences) to find the preferences folder on your platform. And store stuff on a stack or text file here. This will save the info on the user's machine. Encript to taste. Custom properties are very useful for preferences... What steps can, and should be, taken within our Rev application to restrict access to our server, being as the server's address (including the username and password) are in numerous scripts of our Rev application? Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] SERVICE USB Plus Drives Real World Device Control with Runtime Revolution
IS IT POSSIBLE that activity on this list made this happen??? At least two of us here (myself included) made a request for Rev compatibility for this directly to BK. and control of real-world devices directly from Runtime Revolution under MacOS X. We've been aware of this product for a while. What is not explained is -- does one have to still use Applescript to make it work with rev, or did they actually make some XCMDs so Rev can work directly? The word direcly above line would suggest that... This is a big difference. When I wrote them, they offered only the Applescript calls as a solution. Also if one has the USB drivers for this product, would they be useful for access to any other USB device? PROGRAMMATIC CONTROL OVER TRADESHOW, CONCERT ENTERTAINMENT DEVICES December 9, 2005. Dortmund, Germany. Boenig Kallenbach, the leader in real time interfaces for Apple Macintosh computers, announces its new USB interface SERVICE USB plus control device, enabling measurement and control of real-world devices directly from Runtime Revolution under MacOS X. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why is Konfabulator 'Pretty?'
X, don't patterns have to have boundaries to repeat? And generally they should relate to binary boundaries, 64x64, 128x128, 16x16, etc. Why would the Mac platform be the problem? I've never seen any 'standard' 20x20 pattern. sqb later and when i realized my mistake it was too late - damage was done - 20X20 patterns dont work either on macs (they must be specific sizes which -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why is Konfabulator 'Pretty?'
Are you sure about this? I thought Quartz ruled now...the 'old toolbox' is long dead. With all due respect, X, your mac knowledge seems to end around 1995. sqb CThis is the big show stopper in my point of view towards smooth transitions across platforms. The reason? Dependencies on the old Mac OS toolbox display! -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] SERVICE USB Plus Drives Real World Device Control with Runtime Revolution
right, but there are several components to the software, extensions at the system level. What I'm interested in is the 'last mile' -- direct integration to Rev (in real-time control apps, latency is a drag - and I would fear that with the use of Applescript) sqb Congrats Rev! I think things like this are really important as it leads to new opportunities. @Stephen: I just downloaded the Software. It looks like an external. Now I know what I want for Christmas. All the best, Malte -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] SERVICE USB Plus Drives Real World Device Control with Runtime Revolution
It would seem that if it were officially offered by rev, that it would cross-platform. B-K's previous position was that they were Mac- only. I for one have requested this as well. I would like to know also about the Applescript versus straight to driver approach. Cross platform compatibility would be nice. Tom -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more logs on the FireWire pyre
That really really, sucks. USB was designed for keyboards and mice, not peripherals. http://www.zdnet.com/5208-11408-0.html?forumID=1threadID=15820messageID=314274start=3 I've got a major investment in Firewire. What the hell are they thinking??? I mean they invented it!! I do major Pro Tools HD work, and my only access to drives is by firewire, as I've scuttled all SCSI peripherals. sqb All- Looks like FireWire's on the way out... there's been talk for some time now about USB 2.0 replacing even FireWire 800 as the emerging standard. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=57 -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] SERVICE USB Plus Drives Real World Device Control with Runtime Revolution
who's site? URL, please! From the web-site: ``Revolution... This contains a project exclusively for the SERVICE USB interface and Runtime Revolution's Revolution. All input and output functions and a stepping motor control example are implemented.'' -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] SERVICE USB Plus Drives Real World Device Control with Runtime Revolution
I've seen the site. I can't seem to find the the page that mentions 'external' for Rev. sqb http://www.bkohg.com/ liamlambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more logs on the FireWire pyre
No, right now I'm a 'conservative' PT HD user with a 1.22 ghz dual G4 (so I can dual boot into OS9 and use some legacy audio apps.) This model does not have FW 800 ports though... I'm kinda boxed in... I'd really like an extra slot.. RE: Van Morrison, yep- and a couple more http://barncard.com : discography Me, too. But I can't help feeling that just because Apple might stop putting firewire into iBooks, it doesn't mean it'll disappear from the 'pro' machines. You're not running PT off an iBook, after all... :) Mark p.s. Are you the same Stephen Barncard who engineered on Tupelo Honey? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] SERVICE USB Plus Drives Real World Device Control with Runtime Revolution
It's beautiful. And I applaud their use of an IEC connector and internal power supply as opposed to a wall wart. I wish something like this had been around when I built AM studios tape copy room in 1989. I had to make my own hardware, fueled by the CY-500 serial chips. It was a 'money is no object' situation. Hypercard with externals by Rinaldi and others came along at the exact right time. http://barncard.com/amstudios/htdoc/Pages/TC.html I'll be making the construction details available online someday soon. sqb The hardware looks great - now I want one, too. -- -Mark Wieder -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
gurus (was about Atkinson)
I think we already have our gurus... Dan, Chipp, Eric, X, Trevor,Scott, Richard, Ken, Jeanne, Jerry D. et al right here on this list, with Kevin and Ro popping in now and then. One might consider that he has paid his dues, doesn't owe anyone (although he's a fairly humble guy and might not say that), so I'd say find another guru who isn't retired, and let the guy rest on his laurels, if that's his desire. All the best, Ken N. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why did HyperCard wither away? [was: Re: Why is Konfabulator 'Pretty?']
Jean-Louis Gasse as with the original HC, Apple management didn't get it...with one exception: the person who preceeded Jobs' second coming. It's been too long for me to remember his name Gil Amillio (?; sp?) Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-rev means using Rev (was 10,000 other threads)
Judy, that's just not fair. Richard is not Runrev, so who's left to 'receive' the rant/message if it's not personal? Is this a passive/aggressive thing? Richard was trying to solve a congestion problem for this list - and I agree with him that this 'geeky' list does exactly what it is supposed to do. Most of us are NOT stockholders, and we can't tell RR how to run their business. And finally threads about how to change their core business model was getting tedious and boring, to most of us. I barely have time to read the list as it is... I think Richard's suggestion was totally appropriate. sqb But, Richard, (and, this isn't personal, against you. or anyone else) but: This, in turn, really does mean: Piss off! We don't want to deal with you. Please go shout into the canyons. We don't want to hear from you. We only want to hear how to solve _our_ specific, geeky, programming-only queries. Piss off again. If you have to ask why then you don't belong here. If you have to ask why not, then you REALLY don't belong here. Posting a URL to a spit-in-the-wind forum really does mean all of the above. Part of 'using' (in terms of the use-list) Rev really does encompass why what's there isn't useful. This isn't personal... Really. I don't think that you've offered the URL in the spirit I've outlined above, but I can outline why that might be how it's taken. Judy On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote: For the sake of the use-rev list and its readers, please consider moving this and related threads to the rv-biz list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rev-biz/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: (no subject)
From the little I know about stage lighting - they use a dc voltage (0-10v) to control dimmers. So to begin, you'd need an A-D controller that can work with REV, such as the one describe earlier last week: Hardware Control consoles for this purpose are incredibly cheap, like cheap audio mixers. This unit here costs $200, and uses MIDI for control. Perhaps this might be part of your solution -- then all you need it a USB-To-Serial dongle and a way to adapt it to a MIDI connector.. http://froogle.google.com/froogle_cluster?q=DMX+stage+lightingpid=4831398326042607349oid=1414116561199851882btnG=Search+Frooglelmode=addr=scoring=phl=en I wonder if anyone has used rev with DMX for stage Lighting. I am interested in using it of this product if posable any advice would greatly be appreciated. Liam Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRELAND -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DMX Stage lighting
here's a site with all the MIDI specs: -- click on HARDWARE for interface. From: Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the little I know about stage lighting - they use a dc voltage (0-10v) to control dimmers. So to begin, you'd need an A-D controller that can work with REV, such as the one describe earlier last week: One whole bunch of dimmers I control, in a big house, use 0-10VDC per dimmer which we make in other ways. Another whole bunch of dimmers I control, in a theater, can use DMX-512. That is a looped, multiplexed, time-divided system (each device has an address (0-511) that determines its time slot. For all I know, common DMX-512 interfaces may have 0-10VDC outputs. Like Stephen says, its pretty easy to get at MIDI if you can do serial. Old mac serial ports could do it directly, but I haven't since. -- Jerry Jensen -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Oh Christ... Image Name?
Hi Kathy (fellow SF resident) I've been fooling around with storing entire stacks (with images) as text descriptions and had to fiddle with this. One needs to use the full path to get the name sometimes. What I've been doing lately is importing the images needed to my own library stack (or substack), then 'start using'. then something like this should work: get the name of image id 1363 of stack /Users/sbarncar/Desktop/C H A T E A U/REV STACKS/20050919_prePackage_to/lib/libICONS.rev the full absolute path can be derived on the fly using 'the effective filename' and internal path of your stack or package. Oh Christ... If I have the id of an image stored in the stack image Library how do I get the name of that image. The id is stored in a variable I call tIndex. How do I do this? Thanks Kathy Graves Jaqua A Wildest Dream Software -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Oh Christ... Image Name?
Actually his Holiness the Dali Lama was at Stanford last month. Thanks all... Anyone know where the Dali Lama is right now? The Pope per chance?? And, I will try all the above suggestions. Thanks Kathy Graves Jaqua A Wildest Dream Software -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: debugger problem
That's because we all took refuge here!! sqb (HC since 1988) I am reminded greatly of all the Hypercarders I have ever come into contact with. Cal -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev to SuperCard
WHy on earth would you want to do that?? Isn't that ... going backwards? Has anyone experience with converting RunRev stacks created on WIN to SuperCard 4 on Mac? ___ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bush-like weasel words about standalone
Hmmm. Preston - you aren't that new here, you've been posting since 11/05. You have just noticed this? If you are dissing the so-called Earth Shoe and VW Bus OS why should you care to develop for it at all? Furthermore, it's just the development for OS 9, not OSX, that is affected. Look, Rev is a great tool to help bridge 'platform bigotry' and it's always recommended to have an Enterprise License and a machine running the IDE for every platform for testing and final tweaking. It's absurd to expect the level perfection you seem to want from this software. The fact is that Rev has made it a hell of a lot easier to develop cross-platform applications than any other product that I've seen. sqb The Revolution Website promises: Revolution allows you to create true standalone applications for any of the major platforms - Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac OS X and Classic. Develop on the operating system of your choice and preview the look and feel of your target platform. Develop Linux and Unix applications on Windows, develop Windows applications on Mac OS X - you have total flexibility over where you develop and where you deliver. And when you deliver, you don't incur additional license or royalty fees - maximising your revenue and pricing flexibility, while minimising your administration. .. so, imagine my dismay when, having bought the product, spent a month learning to use it (sorta) and having developed my project as a standalone, I discovered from the conference on standalones that: Note that the Mac OS option will not be available if you are running on Windows or Linux. Due to the way MacOS works, you can only build MacOS standalones using a Macintosh, though you can do it under Mac OS X if you like. I went back to the sweeping assertions and noticed that Develop Linux and Unix applications on Windows, develop Windows applications on Mac doesn't say you can develop Mac standalones on Windows - only that one can preview the look and feel. Like weapons of mass destruction related program activities, one has to look carefully to find out what it means by what it says. OK, I should have known better. I'm not really even sore. But I would like to know what I'm going to have to do to make a standalone for the Earth Shoe and VW Bus OS. I've tried the Rev. docs (Ha! I should have known after a month of ownership) and the otherwise admirable Rev.net on-line. Can anyone point me in the right direction? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
You are mistaken. Return and Enter are different and are both useful. I use EnterInField in a field script to execute Transcript snippets or MYSQL code in a field. Return is needed to ... ummm... put returns in the text!! I'm using a standard off the shelf Mac keyboard with my G4 Aluminum 17. The laptop has an enter key as well, next to the right apple key. sqb At 10:06 -0600 12/29/05, Jerry Muelver wrote: I submit that the distinction between returnInField and enterInField is absurd for text-entry applications like program editors and dialog boxes, and is of extremely limited utility for numeric entry applications. In fact, I doubt that anyone can provide an example supporting the rationale for not merging the Return and Enter key for good for all applications. (mumble-mumble, grumble, ratzn-fratz, drat-it...) The Original Jerry -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open an app in the centre of the screen
Here we have, ladies and gentlemen, the last man online that has never heard of a mailing list. I wonder if he barges into meetings like that. STOP FUCKING EMAILING ME!! On 12/30/05, Jason (Polydiam) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you open up an application that is centred to the middle of the screen? Thanks -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
MACWORLD
Is there going to be any Runrev presence at MACWORLD this year? I remember a while ago it was in the developer's area... sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Portable Apps..?
YES the newer solid drives are fast enough to real-time record 2 channels of 24/96 audio, if that can be used as a benchmark!. sqb Just guessing, but even if it's non-volatile RAM, I would expect it to be faster than a hard drive as typically RAM writes are significantly faster than hard disk writes (think of your virtual memory cache). -Chipp Richard Gaskin wrote: I could be mistaken, but I believe the difference is also a function of the type of RAM used in flash drives, since non-volatile RAM is slower than the type we use in computer memory. I.e., a USB flash drive should be expected to be slower than a USB hard drive. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Portable Apps..?
Still - he faces a future where solid state drives might eventually render the HD useless...so he's biased... I was able to turn up an interview with Seagate CEO Bill Watkins which addresses this: If you want to have a very rich audio or video experience, no matter what you do, you're going to need a hard drive. Flash memory can't handle the data rates that a hard drive can. The data rates on flash are too slow to handle high-quality video and audio. http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/sep2005/tc20050927_1608_tc057.htm?campaign_id=rss_tech I still haven't found specifics on Flash drive speed relative to hard drives, but at least we have one authoritative voice to confirm what we see in our own experience: Flash drives are convenient, but not necessarily zippy. -- Richard Gaskin -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Amazing, strange, and mystifying
YES, you can just breathe on the scripts and they want to be saved! Of course pasting in text would be a desired alteration, but I notice it gets 'dirty' even if on doesn't change anything in the script but if one just copies it! hey, I just did this 5 times in a row and then understood why! when you paste a script and hit the enterkey or choose Apply script menu, the script may not save... To fix it, make it a habit to press enter after you paste something in the script editor... - bugzilla 1920 actually... Bugzilla is marked as fixed again when it isn't ;) Hopefully Ben or someone else will reopen it ;) I added 5 votes so hopefully it gets noticed again... cheers Xavier -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: nested ifs
Chipp, I think the compiler doesn't like dangling THEN's in any case, and in fact would be much happier with END IF when the statement gets long. Using this form always works (and for me easier to read anyway...) - it takes up more space though. IF condition THEN -- statements ELSE -- statements END IF I like to do the following: if tResult is Error then answer Go Ahead anyway with Cancel or OK if it is Cancel then exit to top end if Most of the time it compiles, but sometimes the single line if statement in the middle throws and error and won't compile, so I'm forced to do: if tResult is Error then answer Go Ahead anyway with Cancel or OK if it is Cancel then exit to top end if end if Anyone know why the compiler does this? I can't seem to figure out under what circumstances this seems to happen. best, Chipp -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: nested ifs
Why? If one uses the 'classic' full IF-THEN_ELSE-ENDIF with all KEYWORDS on separate lines, it always works, and it is not ambiguous as with dangling THENs. We certainly don't have this kind of problem with CASE statements, do we? They are what they are - there's a form, and one follows it - it's an element of syntax!! am I old-fashioned, dumb or what? there are MANY other issues with Rev that need attention before this one! sqb On 25 Jan 2006, at 11:32, Chipp Walters wrote: Anyone know why the compiler does this? I can't seem to figure out under what circumstances this seems to happen. No - but it is annoying! -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: nested ifs
Chipp, I use that form all the time (if it is empty then exit to top) - I just had a problem regarding dangling THENs.. IF condition THEN command IF condition THEN command Does one execute after the other, or is the second executed only after the first condition is met? THIS is not clear, so I tend to be quite explicit or use a CASE statement. Kinda like using parentheses, might as well give the compiler succinct instructions! It's a matter of preference I suppose. For me, if it is empty then exit to top is much easier to read than 3 lines taking up the same space. Thanks to Eric for Mark Waddingham's explanation. It helps to understand the why. -Chipp -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack to Flash
Why would you want to do that to a perfectly good stack or standalone? Wouldn't it be great if we could convert stacks (RR projects) into Flash movies? Flash supports buttons and fields, and the file format of Flash is open I believe. So I guess it's not an infinitely difficult task. What do you say? -- GANBARE! NIPPON! -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux CGI --Networksolutions
Why on earth can't you change your host? That's why we have domain names - so we can FIRE bad web hosts!! That's too bad, as hosting with domain provider is not usually a good idea, these guys especially. I have a particular dislike for 'Netsol', who from the start didn't like losing their monopoly on domains and refused to modernize and streamline the process, then turned to predatory techniques for a while to rope in unsuspecting domain holders from other registrars. Hello, you domain xxx is expiring, you should renew now .. not telling the hapless owners (who may not be web savvy) that the domain is actually registered with someone else. The real information was hidden in fine print. And they continue to overcharge for what is basically an automated operation. $36/year/domain? Give me a break. Below is the reply I got from Networksolutions. I had asked them to check the error logs (I don't have access) to see which libraries are missing for rev to work. We have reviewed your CGI scripts and it appears you are attempting to use a custom CGI add-in called RevZilla. This is not a standard library for CGI and we can not install this library to the server at this time. I can't change my hosting service. So, I'm more or less stuck. Aggg. tm -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux CGI --Networksolutions
I've been misquoted. None of the text below is mine. I made a nasty comment about Network Solutions. On 1/28/06 2:23 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have reviewed your CGI scripts and it appears you are attempting to use a custom CGI add-in called RevZilla. This is not a standard library for CGI and we can not install this library to the server at this time. Custom CGI add-in called RevZilla. Huh RevZilla is a separate front end to RunRev's Bugzilla database system and as such (a) is not a CGI add-in (whatever that is), and (b) shouldn't be on a server (since you need to see the interface to use it). Thomas, can you clarify why the ISP would have even *mentioned* RevZilla? Or how it could be in your CGI scripts ? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux CGI --Networksolutions
I guess one must INSIST on controlling the web end of things and choosing the provider, unless the client really does know what he's doing. One has to be firm about this, otherwise nothing gets done. Can't even see your own logs (let alone run your own code)? Yikes. Netsol is for family sites. My own choice is Dreamhost - big bang for the buck - ever expanding bandwidth and storage - and great support. Dan Shafer was talking to them about using rev cgis and they were willing to work with him but I never heard how it worked out. Dan? sqb Ken, I just don't know. I asked them to run my [extremely simple] hello.cgi and then check the error logs [which I can't access] to see what's missing. I'm really upset about this. I had _just_ got my rev cgi's working at another ISP. All set to interface with PayPal. Was going to write a little how to for the benefit of the list here. Then the fellow I'm working with decided (for good reasons) to change ISPs. It's his site...arg! Now I'm looking at PHP and pulling my hair out, How can I get the itemoffset? or lineoffset? I need my rev. I might try to convice him to change back. I really need a language that's usable: put item x of line i of tstring into myinfo Ken wrote: Custom CGI add-in called RevZilla. Huh Thomas, can you clarify why the ISP would have even *mentioned* RevZilla? Or how it could be in your CGI scripts ? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Embedded Paint Tools - a story of cooperation
Very nicely done! It's going into my toolkit...thanks! At 10:34 -0500 1/29/06, Mathewson wrote: A while back Kersten Bjerg was looking for some embedded paint tools to spin-off in a standalone. I pinched and modified 2 palettes from the Metacard IDE -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How To Get Domain Whois Information From Whois Servers With RR?
or use the shell command! At least on MacOSx! But I like the idea of a revWHOISlib! Hi Alex, Another approach that would take more work but would probably be more reliable in the long run is to create a whois client app in Rev. It would use the WHOIS internet protocol and interact directly with a WHOIS server on port 43. That might enable you to bypass security issues (on some WHOIS servers anyway). ... Phil Davis -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FTP
My fave above all is TRANSMIT from PANIC, the guys that wrote AUDION. http://www.panic.com/transmit/ Hi folks, I'm after a basic FTP client for OSX. I know Rev supports this, but I don't seem to be able to find an Rev written product that includes listing of the local folders and the server folders. Any thoughts greatly appreciated, as I don't have time right now to write one... Scott -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Difficulty using shell in Ubuntu Linux
just a thought - does one have to be 'root' or at least set some permissions to use shell? I am using Ubuntu Linux (#5.04 - Hoary Hedgehog)*** with Rev 2.6.1. No matter what I try, I cannot get the function/commands shell, launch or open process to work. I have checked that the path to the standalone folder for launching is correct (by displaying its files), messing about with the default folder, putting the program path into a Global variable, etc., etc., all to no avail. Do these commands work in other versions of Linux? Is similar failure the experience of other Ubuntu users? Bob -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
So if I troll your personal website and I find a folder you forgot to secure and wasn't linked to anything and it contained personal information, you feel it's ok for me to disclose the info I find to this list? I assume that if RR really wanted to keep things absolutely water-tight thay would have made sure that the RunRev website was completely inaccessible. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rendering Text
Not to degrade your inspiration for a Rev project, but did you know that Final Cut (Express and Pro) can do that on export? sqb I have an solution that I'm trying to put together that will serve as a slate generator for our video production company. Basically a slate is a series of frames that count down (10 to 2) that is placed just before a commercial. This slate has all the information needed to identify a spot. ... Wally -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Started with a Database
I agree, a working SQL client is essential to get past the 'chicken and egg' of develop an app without data. I loved and used CocoaMySQL for years, but the version at the sourceforge link will break with 10.3.4 and above and most certainly Tiger. Just stops functioning. use this link instead: http://www.theonline.org/cocoamysql/ The 0.6.5 version works fairly well. There's also a beta .7 version that will be eventually work with MySQL 5. These days I use NAVICAT. A bit more robust, but it's a commercial product, not donationware. sqb May I also suggest you get a copy of the donationware CocoaMySQL: http://cocoamysql.sourceforge.net/ It makes it extremely easy to determine if your MySQL is set up correctly - although if it isn't you still have to nut out what the problem is. Best of -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.7 - Update or Upgrade?
As far as I can tell, this is not true unless one has an 'update pack'. Only Fractional (.x) updates are free. You get to use it with your current license if your license is less than a year old. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
You're obfuscating the fact that he POSTED the information on this forum, not that he got 'stuck in the site'. Please end this thread. On 14 Feb 2006, at 04:28, Judy Perry wrote: I would agree, however, RunRev clearly didn't want this information available now. Sure, they may have forgotten to 'lock the door', but that's not a good excuse to go inside anyway. The point is that it was hard to back out, the window was stuck open in the Browser. Dave -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Started with a Database
as I mentioned earlier in the week, the project is open source and this is the latest (1/24/) version. http://www.theonline.org/cocoamysql/ I just tried downloading CocoaMySQL from curiosity. When I selected one of my databases and selected a table, it froze my PowerBook absolutely solid -- after half a minute, the beachball wouldn't even spin! Is there some more modern ( 2003) version I didn't find? Charles On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: Usually it is easier to create your tables with CocoaMySQL though, then just use libDB to connect to the database. For ___ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: F1 as the men shortcut?
Why are you guys dancing around the bush; how about the old HC function?? This works great! on functionkey what SWITCH what CASE 1 -- functionkey 1 down break CASE 2 -- functionkey 2 down break CASE 3 -- functionkey 3 down break CASE n -- functionkey n down break END SWITCH end functionkey note that on Mac OS many keys are assigned to system tasks but can be disabled. 1-4 are reserved, 13,14,15,16 don't appear on all keyboards and 11 and 12 want to be owned by Dashboard. one of 2 classic solutions send (MenuPick themenuname) to btn mymenu or set the menuhistory of btn mymenu to thislinenumber... - Another way, more tedious but with more freedom allowed is that if your menupick handler calls a handler in the button or stack script, then you can simply send handlername to the button (no menupick stuff - which fails if you change the menuitem) or in the simplest case, if your handler is in the card, background or stack, you don't need to send anything, just call the handler... cheers Xavier -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Rebuild permissions? also was there junk left over for earlier RC's? Prefs? I started using Rev. 2.7 Studio yesterday. I quit the program and came back to it later. If I now try opening a stack with the Open Stack... menu from 2.7 all of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 are disabled (grayed out, do not open). If I try opening one of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 from the Finder they will open the standalone (which is correct behavior) but the stacks, themselves do not open. Trying to open stacks from the Open Stack... menu in the standalone is the same as from Rev 2.7: all of the ones previously opened in 2.7 are disabled. I had been able to work around this by using the Open Recent File menu in Rev. Until this evening. I opened a stack and decided to make some adjustments to it. When I clicked on the Table tab in the Inspector, Rev froze. When I restarted I was able to get the Table tab to open. But, when I clicked on the Horizontal Grid, Rev froze again. Now when I try to open the stack on which I was working (from the Open Recent File menu - the only option previously working) I get this error message: Stack no longer exists in this location According to the Finder, the stack still exists, in the same location. Any advice would be appreciated. (OS X 10.4.4, Rev 2.7, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig RAM) Paul Looney -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7
yeah, Had the same feelings. I really despise that My terminology myself. Total lemming-words, like Win this and Win that. It's Microsoft-Speak and I, a card-holdling, pry-from-my-cold-dead-fingers Mac diehard, have a bit of hesitation typing those words. And now, it's etched in stone in the code forever. Kinda like the RFC misspellings: So what if somebody (probably Tim Berners-Lee, who wrote the original HTTP spec) was a better engineer than speller? Yes, the correct spelling is referrer, but the term referer is embedded into the code of millions of browsers and servers and it's too late to change now. J. Landman Gay wrote: If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the Enterprise I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already have a serious problem with My Computer, My Documents etc. To me this is like My first coloring book :-), eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word my in some way not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl? Martin Baxter -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Main menu puzzle
Ken, I'm sorry you're having problems, but like any language, you need to learn the basics. Why do you have to come to this forum? - because support is very expensive, and Runrev has this wonderful, helpful culture that will answer your questions. If runrev had to deliver the quality of support you wanted, you'd have to pay for it. It's not because they're mean, it's because they're sticking to their business plan. They're a very small company and they very much want to survive. I just read the excellent new 2.7 user's guide (userguide.pdf) that steps through how everything worksThis is really well-done. Ken, I don't know if you bought a copy of Rev or is just working with a demo, but between the user guide and the scripting conference stacks, the info is there. You're mind is still trying to bend rev to the way other languages work... You'll get it soon and will be one of the ones on this list giving advice. sqb Thanks Alex I'll copy and paste that into my Rev tips file, so I remember it's a parameter name. I still do not understand how pWhich can tell that I've picked a menu item like Quit (or Open, or anything else). So, how does a pWhich identify what's been picked? (you see the dimensions of my ignorance). Comment for Rev support: I have to wonder why I had to go to a user forum and rely on helpful others to provide this information. If it's a convention (ie something everyone knows, and follows) one can only wonder why it doesn't seem to appear in the Rev dictionary. I did a fairly thorough search, and I supposed it might be a parameter (among other things), so I put in parameter as a search term and scrolled thru the list of parameters, and failed to find it. If it is such a common convention, how come? Answer: Everybody knows this... Reply: No, they don't but if you want Rev to be scripting for the rest of us, you'll have to make it a bit easier to find it out. Thanks Alex. As you can see, I have another agenda going here but I appreciate all the help I can get. I need lots. regards Ken -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
oops, I guess I was wrong. Didn't read Mark's full text. My apologies for misinformation. sqb Hi Paul, As stated: The reason for existence of this property is so that developers producing systems in Revolution that base their file-format on Revolution stacks can tie their files to their environment, rather than the Revolution or MetaCard IDE The issue with 2.7 is that it has, by default, got its 'stackFileType' property set to 'MacOS' - this is a bug - it should be (as it has been in previous versions) either 'RevoRSTK' or 'MCRDMSTK'. As this is a global property, once it has been set to a different value, the IDE will use that for all stacks saved in the remainder of the session. The filetype/creator code of a particular stack is not remembered by the IDE - instead it will replace it with the setting of 'the stackFileType' at the time it is next saved. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Main menu puzzle, Klaus
and this isn't cleaner? LOOK - a whole bunch of if's and thens don't have to be repeated over and over. on menupick varMenuItemSelected SWITCH varMenuItemSelected CASE Cut SubCut break CASE Copy SubCopy break CASE Paste SubPaste break CASE Undo SubUndo break CASE Word Wrap SubWordWrap break DEFAULT -- END SWITCH end menupick I find SWITCH/CASE statements to be quite elegant, actually, and you can do things in fewer lines than an IF statement will do in many situations. Execution goes straight down, and breaks are the stoppers! SWITCH colors CASE green CASE blue CASE yellow CASE orange put color set one break CASE brown CASE red CASE purple put color set two break DEFAULT put not from either set END SWITCH looks pretty linear to me... a lot easier than repetitive ORs or a lot of if-thens. sqb And I think another thing, a bit odd I'm sure, but I find the Case statements to be... well... Ugly for some reason. Just looking at code for a Case statement doesn't seem to flow naturally in my mind, but an equivalent If statement does. Don't ask me why! Could be that I'm just a seriously odd fellow ;-) -Garrett P.S. BOYCOTT CASE STATEMENTS! IF STATEMENTS ROCK! -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort of OT, CD names to iTunes
I guess you've found you get better results when you manually split the files from your LP session than depend on auto-splitting. Needle noise usually messes that up. And Gracenote can only recognize digital signatures that are created from the exact digital image of a CD that has been ripped before by someone. Party mixes and your project of course won't be recognized. The best plan is to transfer with, then name the regions as song titles in Sound Studio, use the split regions to aiff files feature and then import the AIFFs into iTUnes. The named AIF files will appear in the lists and the onboard label printing or external printing pgms can use the info. Charles Hartman wrote: I'm doing a lot of LP - CD transfers, a process with many steps some of which are silly tedious. One of them is that, after I've split the digitized audio file into tracks, and named them (a little tedious in itself since I'm using an ancient Toast Lite to burn the CD), and go to import the tracks into iTunes, unless it's a recording known to GraceNote I have to type all the track names (and composers) *again* in the iTunes info panel. I was thinking a little Rev stack to do this would be handy (and worth the time if I do *another* couple of hundred), but I'm not sure where to look. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
REVCON 2006
Yes, I have some vague summer plans that are formingDan? Chipp? sqb Chipp- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 9:30:35 PM, you wrote: And of course, soon, Dan will be telling Ken how to get to the next conference. Speaking of the next conference, have you and Dan decided about this year's event? I'm asking for a couple of reasons: first of all, I've got a gig on the 10th of June and I'm expecting a conference the following weekend, so I've tentatively committed to it with the proviso that I'm not sure of the June timing yet. Secondly, Dave Bovill and I have been working on what I think is a pretty exciting object brokering paradigm for reusable complex components and we're getting close to releasing it. We'd like to do a session at Monterey but will put it off until the Malta conference if RevConWest isn't going to happen this year. -- -Mark Wieder -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.7 Consensus
My take on 2.7 - Awesome. In spite of the heavily discussed issues, I find 2.7 much more stable and robust than ever. It seems to load more quickly, and all the IDE problems I had before went away... (YMMV). The antialiasing and blending features are very cool too..I am going stay with 2.7 now... sqb Scott- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 9:05:32 PM, you wrote: As one of the folks who has gone back to 2.6.1, I'd say there's no problem with using 2.7. The things that bother me about the new release revolve around the inability to use the documentation in any reasonable fashion, the fact that IDE preferences don't get saved properly, and the disconnect between the stack file formats. If these don't get in your way then I don't see any reason not to move ahead. The 2.7 release seems stable, produces solid code, has a lot of nifty new features, and I really really really like the way the structure of the IDE is heading with the separation of components to allow for smooth upgrading. -- -Mark Wieder -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unShared Custom props for new cards?
templateCard property??? Summary: Used with the set command to set the properties of newly created cards. sqb So, the question is... is there some way to set up some kind of custom prop set, such that when you do create card the new card will have those custom props generated automatically, but which are empty and unique to that card? I realize the work around would be to write a script to adds the custom props to all the existing cards and then trap the create card handler in the future and cause it to do a clone card instead and then clean out all the data in the fields and custom props of the newly cloned card... this would emulate a kind of background custom property set that is unshared but the same across all cards. but before I go ahead with this... I was just wondering if I missed a feature on the vast ocean of Rev's syntax that might allow for setting up such an unshared background custom property set whcih becomes, like, part of the placed background that is auto added to new cards.?? TIA Sivakatirswami -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
