Re: [WSG] pdf graphics
Marilyn Langfeld said the following on 1/13/2006 9:37 AM: Yes, the latest version of Photoshop saves to .jpg, .gif. png .ico (if you install a plug-in, one of which is donationware), as well as having a Save for web export in .jpg, .gif, .png-8, .png-24 and WBMP that helps you to optimize the result for the Web). I find it funny that almost everyone forgot Macromedia Fireworks - as a full-time programmer and not a very good graphic artistthis program is invaluable! -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check - ShetlandCoffee.com
David Nicol said the following on 1/11/2006 2:09 PM: Hi everyone, I'd appreciate it very much if you could take a quick look at: http://www.shetlandcoffee.com/ All comments welcome. In particular, please let me know if you spot anything that I'd need to fix before my client begins to promote the site. Thank you in advance. There appears to be some problems in FF1.5 in WinXP in your header section. Location of screen shot: http://www.maestropublishing.com/examples/shetlandcoffe_ss.png Looks fine in IE...(ugh! ;-) Best, .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] page check
kvnmcwebn wrote: the html validates now Tidy is still complaining of unescaped amp's in your title attributes: ul class="navlist" lia href="subcategory.htm" title="parenting"Parenting/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="childcare"Childcare/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Youth / Teenagers"Youth amp; Teenagers/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Family Issues"Family Issues/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Mothers' / Women's Support"Mothers' amp; Women's Support/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Fathers' / Men's Support"Fathers' amp; Men's Support/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Gay Lesbian Support"Gay amp; Lesbian Support/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Health Wellbeing"Health amp; Wellbeing/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Personal Problems"Personal Problems/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Disability / Special Needs"Disability amp; Special Needs/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Older People"Older People/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Minority Groups"Minority Groups/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Education Training"Education amp; Training/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Homelessness / Housing"Homelessness amp; Housing/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Money"Money/a/li lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Money"Content Providers/a/li /ul /div -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion
Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes
Thomas Livingston wrote: If most users don't change a thing when they install a browser, or change the one that came with their PC, then what's properly configured mean? I think we should realize that most people don't know anything about configuring their browser and even their computer! Just look at my Mother... ;-) [just kidding Mom] I think it's safe to assume default installation settings for most users -- everybody else are fringe cases. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes
Felix Miata wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
body { font-size: small; }
is generally acceptable and is approximately the same as 80% of the
Definitely not acceptable to me for content paragraphs. :-(
I have to agree with Felix here as well. In the end, I have to abide my
clients wishes or otherwise I'd be kick out on the street for the lack
of money! I generally use the disclaimer -- Browsers aren't word
processors and argue for a middle of the line approach.
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Re: [WSG] standards or confusion?
Martin Heiden wrote: Do it on the serverside!!! Maybe I'm a cycle head, but it seems silly to use computation cycles (although very little) to compute a year that changes only once per year. Use a server side include or hard code it in your footer template and remember to change it in the new year. Guess this is my enterprise application architecture brain talking here. .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion for free! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] standards or confusion?
Martin Heiden wrote: Peter, on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 at 12:31 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: Maybe I'm a cycle head, but it seems silly to use computation cycles (although very little) to compute a year that changes only once per year. Use a server side include or hard code it in your footer template and remember to change it in the new year. Guess this is my enterprise application architecture brain talking here. You're right! I would do it with SSI or even more static (maybe by using a Dreamweaver library element). As others mentioned, the solution via _javascript_ relies on a correct set clock at the client's side and you can't control that. So best practice is: don't trust in it! IIRC, copyrights are implicit in the US. The absence of a copyright notice does not necessary mean that the work is not copyrighted. A copyright notice became optional in the US in 1989. For more information, see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright Standard Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and the information above should not be construed as advice. If only the general public knew about it... Sorry for being OT. I rarely rely on JS at all. I have a few applications that I wrote that explicitly depend on it, but that was a requirement in the architecture process and it is clear to our customers that use it (it's not a public facing website). .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion for free! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion!
Re: [WSG] talking points for standards
Donna Jones wrote: ...but, yes, back to my problem child non-profit. It may be time to let it go, it is hard to see them get a poor website and pay a fair amount of money for it ... it is also hard to validate myself and get them to know that i do know what i'm doing, at least tons more than the PR firm. But thanks for saying that I didn't create the dilemma ... I'll try to take that to heart. I suspect its a pretty common situation; and, to be honest, when i first took it on, at no reimbursement, i was simply chomping at the bits to have something to do and probably felt like i should pay them for letting me do it. I've changed a bit since then! The problem here is they are paying the PR firm and not you. They probably are asking themselves -- how can unpaid person be right and a highly paid PR firm be so wrong? Lets say you went to the doctor and he claims you have XYZ and need surgery ABC . You leave the office and paid for your visit (either out-of-pocket or by insurance). You meet a friend in your local grocery store -- he says you don't have XYZ and don't need surgery ABC. He says all you have is an ingrown toe nail and you need QRS! It's painful to walk on (no accessibility), but your foot this looks, smells and acts like a foot (a website) -- so why shouldn't I do QRS (accessibility) instead of XYZ? It's all about perception and where your money goes. Money clouds judgment -- especially when you don't have any knowledge about the issue at hand! So you're fighting a battle (for accessibility and standards) with people who are going to automatically differ to the people they think the experts are (PR firm). You mention above that you hate to see them pay a fair amount of money to get a poor website. Same thing happened to me (at least in my opinion) in the story I told before. I decided to walk away for the sake of my sanity and my feelings. So ask yourself a question -- should I continue or is my time here done? Non-profits are so much easier to get along with when they know how much your time is really worth. I can't recall who said that you should bill your non-profits so they at least know how much money your spending on them. I totally agree with this statement and I believe this is normal business practice anyways. Usually, you can say you spent $10,000 of my time last year -- can you please consider that a donation in that amount and at least get yourself in a program/donor material/donor thank you/etc as well as some respect. It's easy to stomp all over someone when you are ignorant on the subject... Sorry, if I don't sound all to encouraging...my advice is think it over and think in the terms of what is good for you. Do I have to pull my hair out maintaining and updating crappy code that I didn't get to write or have any input on? Best, .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion for free! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] talking points for standards
Donna Jones wrote: ... I'm afraid the budget is eaten up by the PR firm and so the NP is feeling badly that I'm in the position, once again, of donating a lot of my time. Ideally, in their view, i think, they'd like for me to say, yes, the PR's code is great and groovy and I'll continue maintenance, updating, no problem I've created a bit of a dilemna because i can't, won't, do that ... I've been put in similar position by non-profit. I was their webmaster for many years and volunteered my every minute of my time. When they received a large grant for technologies improvements, I asked if I could put in a bid. After spending a some time developing a detailed bid, the process became stalled and I never got the opportunity to even place a bid. I later found out that they contracted a firm in which someone on the board of directors knew or at least I believe so (the details are sketchy). In the end, I felt very used as a volunteer. I recommend that anybody who volunteers for a non-profit, discuss ownership of code/designs when you volunteer. I was happy that I was able put a co-copyright on the website and in files. If problems arise, things resolve more easily because of that. Anyways, I wanted to say that you've not created a dilemma for yourself. Maybe this is just life saying you need to move on to newer and better things -- even though this still might feel near and dear to you. If you still want to volunteer your time, find a struggling non-profit that means someone to you and especially one that doesn't have website or has a poor one. Best of luck during this process for you Donna... Best, .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion for free! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Maccaws.org contact
Vito Tardia wrote: Hi to all, do you know an alternative way to contact the people at Maccaws.org? The direct email seems not existing and I'm not sure about the form... Thank you very much Vito According to WhoIs, this is the contact information in the DB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion for free! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Maccaws.org contact
Vito Tardia wrote: Hi to all, do you know an alternative way to contact the people at Maccaws.org? The direct email seems not existing and I'm not sure about the form... Thank you very much Vito According to WhoIs, this is the contact information in the DB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion for free! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Maccaws.org contact
Vito Tardia wrote: Hi to all, do you know an alternative way to contact the people at Maccaws.org? The direct email seems not existing and I'm not sure about the form... Thank you very much Vito According to WhoIs, this is the contact information in the DB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion for free! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] starting ordered lists from a number other than 1
matt andrews wrote: Agree with Bert and Geoff here. The dropping of 'start' attribute from strict DTD was, and is, a controversial W3C decision - one with which I disagree, personally. There are plenty of plausible and sensible scenarios for having an ordered list start with something other than 1... this NLA case being an excellent example. This is one case where I would regard (this particular aspect of) validation as being a hindrance rather than a help. I like where the W3C Validator says that a page with the start attribute is invalid whereas Tidy says it's ok... I'm in total agreement that start shouldn't have been dropped. There are several legal type documents that require things to be numbered. However, for the reason of simplicity for the user it was decided by the web team that the sections be different pages and the number needs to remain consistent. Even though it's depreciated and many pages at many websites aren't valid in the first place -- couldn't you still use the start attribute on a Strict page anyways? Ducks and runs...*poof* .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion for free! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ - Member Team Mach-II - Member Team Fusion! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Clearleft.com
Christian Montoya wrote: It gets worse... W3C gave you a CSS ERROR, which means they checked your site just as you were editing, I'm sure... so the name is wrong, the listing is wrong, and now you are disqualified from the featured list. Hate it when that happens! Just goes to show you that it's a good idea to have a staging/development area before pushing any unvalidated or untested code (such as ColdFusion, PHP or ASP.net, etc.) to a production server. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing http://blog.maestropublishing.com Rooibos Generator - New Version! - Version 2.1 Create boilerplate beans and transfer objects for ColdFusion! http://rooibos.maestropublishing.com/ Member Team Mach-II - It's coming... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] are underscores a problem
Richard Czeiger wrote: Does that mean the best way to go fro ID, Class Names, Variables, etc... is interCaps (also known as CamelCase or lowerCamelCase) ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CamelCase R I've adopted lowerCamelCase for nearly everything of my programming guideline except when dealing with databases (in which I use all lower with typical underscores) and class names in Java. As programmed other languages before CSS. Plus lowerCamelCase makes it easier to read than a something named with a ton of underscores. An example from today's work (non-CSS): errorHandler.invalidPropertyName vs error_handler.invalid_property_name Best, .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Broken link
Zulema wrote: Opie, David wrote: The link to 'WCAG 1.0 Guidelines and Checkpoints for Flash' is dead, can someone pls fix. Thanks David It seems like the entire website is down. The root[1] of the link to the article[2] you mentioned returns an operation timed out warning. [1] http://www.markme.com/ [2] http://www.markme.com/accessibility/archives/007344.cfm Hope it's not a bigger problem. ciao, Zulema As noted on Christian Cantrell's blog last May [http://weblogs.macromedia.com/cantrell/archives/2005/05/my_new_weblog.cfm], all MarkMe blogs are getting migrated over the weblogs.macromedia.com. Also, MarkMe was supposed to be down for a few hours on July 1st for maintenance (although more like days now) [http://weblogs.macromedia.com/cantrell/archives/2005/07/markme_is_going.cfm]. What you're looking for can be found here I think: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/accessibility/ However, please duly note that any links in entries that point to markme.com do not work (supposedly these were/are supposed to be migrated). If you are having problems, I think dropping a note to Christian Cantrell or Mike Chambers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] would probably fix it (they take care of the Macromedia XML News Aggregator - MXNA and the Macromedia blogs). Hope this information helps...and if you contact Christian or Mike and get a new link - don't forget to let the proper authorities of the new link ;-). Best, .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm OHNOSECOND-- That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize that you've just made a BIG mistake. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] ® character
Lee wrote: Hello Listpeople, Anyone know if there's an XHTML special char. for ® ? Can't you use the standard registered entity reference: reg;? http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ section C-12. Best, .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm There are 6 billion people on this planet.and I like 8 of them. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] ® character
Kornel Lesinski wrote: #174; You should avoid all named entities in XHTML, except quot, amp, lt, gt. For all other characters use unicode encoding or numeric unicode entity reference. Then why does the W3 use it in their example? http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ section c12 -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check
Tom Hamshere wrote: I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Any feedback appreciated. One word: pink? -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check
Peter J. Farrell wrote: Old Computer programmers never die, they just decompile. -- Tom Hamshere wrote: I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Any feedback appreciated. One word: pink? Sorry, I'm outta line...(although it definitely was striking)... Run your code through tidy and the W3 validators (jigsaw and the validator)...and fix some errors. A lot of them in your urls because is used instead of the entity reference amp; which xhtml requires. See: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ section c12 I would prefer to see something like - for you time selection - it's easier to comprehend. Midnight-Noon Noon-Six Six-Midnight -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] mutli language websites
sam sherlock wrote: I am using ip2couuntry class in PHP to decide the default lanuage. I don't know if this is the greatest feature - definitely not in Canada where I live. Since the country has two official languages [english and french], it would still requires an "evil", but necessary splash page to select your language (unless you want them to search for the language toogle link). All gouvernment websites that I know of have a language page as a well as a method to toggle between both languages. Should I use en or en-GB is the casing important? "EN" should be just fine and according to my notes it is *not* case-sensitive. What charset should I use for the Itallian version the same as english or other? Why not use UTF-8 which supports nearly all languages [if not all] I can think of. For example, ColdFuion uses UTF-8 as the default charset for HTML as well as source code unless otherwise set. Best, .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog :: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm If you only knew the power of the Dark Side --
Re: [WSG] Form Validation error
tee wrote: Hi, I run a validation for my order form and it gave me error :end tag for element form which is not open /form But I do have open form tag: form method=post action=../cgi-bin/mcart/mof.cgi / get rid of the trailing / in the line above form method=post action=../cgi-bin/mcart/mof.cgi / should be: form method=post action=../cgi-bin/mcart/mof.cgi div id=formContentContent here/div /form My Doctype is xhtml transitional. Also, have anybody done the e-commerce site that is fully xhtml validated? I find it too much a challenge! Tee -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] recreating a table form with simple floating
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:41:11 +0100, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to create a complex online order form that look something like this: http://www.melsmarket.com/cgi-bin/orderonline.cgi All I have to say, is... Tidy: 486 warnings, 7 errors - Too many warnings to display -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Fake Horizontal Frames Layout
Hi Everyone, I'm newer to CSS then I'd like to admit, but I was wondering if it is possible to create a layout that consists of three content areas (Think about a 3-column layout turned 90 degrees). Top Section: - fixed height ~36px Middle Section: - variable height - overflowed to allow verticle scrolling (think about this displaying some reference text that a user needs to read and scroll through) Bottom Section: - fixed height 125px - overflowed to allow for scrolling (although probably not needed) (think about this diplaying a question with possible answers that is in regards to the text that is displayed above) I know this is a strange question, but I want to avoid using a frame here. Thanks in advance for any help... -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Fake Horizontal Frames Layout
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Peter J. Farrell wrote: I'm newer to CSS then I'd like to admit, but I was wondering if it is possible to create a layout that consists of three content areas (Think about a 3-column layout turned 90 degrees). You've got plenty of fun waiting for you up the CSS-road. :-) Something like: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_8d.html, or http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_8e.html but without sidebars? Check: http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/frames/ for all the details. regards Georg Thanks Georg, I'll look into it. Seems like it might work More like: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_8d.html without the sidebars Any idea of the compatibility with which browsers? Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?
designer wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, I have been trying to produce a gallery thing without using a table, and my test file has four images in a vertical column. It all seems fine, except in FF1.0, where the second and fourth images display several dashed lines across the image. (on the face of it, they are all the same) If I refresh the page the lines disappear, but on scrolling they come back again. No other browser (by which I mean IE6 and 5.5, Opera, Mozilla) displays this problem. The file in question (which includes the CSS as yet) is at: http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/wg/galleryv2.html If anyone could take a look and advise I'd be really grateful, as it's driving me nuts. The CSS is simple - the soln isn't. I'm using winXP and a Matrox graphics card (which may or may not be relevant, of course). I have also looked at this on two pc's . . . Thank you, Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk Looks just fine to me...Win XP on FF and IE with NVidia 6600. I have a new/fast computerhowever, I've seen this problem on older computers like my win98 with FF. best, -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Create boilerplate beans! Check out the Mach-II Bean Creator - free download. http://blog.maestropublishing.com/mach-ii_beaner.htm There are 6 billion people on this planet.and I like 8 of them. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Access Key question
Carl Reynolds wrote: How long is your access key? If the access key is only one letter long then there are only 36 possible keys, if it is two letters long there are 36*36 = 1296 possible keys, if three letter 36*36*36 = 46656 possible keys, etc. Carl. Fun, fun, I doubt anyone wants to mash ALT-1Z7... etc. .pjf -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone :: 651-204-0513 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Access Key question
Carl Reynolds wrote: How long is your access key? If the access key is only one letter long then there are only 36 possible keys, if it is two letters long there are 36*36 = 1296 possible keys, if three letter 36*36*36 = 46656 possible keys, etc. Carl. Fun, fun, I doubt anyone want to mash ALT-1Z7... etc. .pjf -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone :: 651-204-0513 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] Hidden Content
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Strictly for search engines? Actually, non-flash content would be most valuable for accessibility reasons to all users which don't have, or can't use, flash content. And there's the rub: most screenreaders don't see any content that has been hidden via display:none http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility Check out the Google Webmaster guidelines: http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html Hidden text probably makes google think you are doing some sort of spam site. Googlebot basically sees what Lynx sees. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not a computer nerd; merely a techno-weenie. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] Who's putting javascript in my code?
Vaska.WSG wrote: i had a similar problem recently...we figured out after a week that it wasn't just on my end...although the host claimed they had checked everything, the server had a virus (that was connect to a java applet on another site that was a known home for hackers)...hopefully your problem isn't nearly as bad as mine was... are you on a mac or pc? i moved to a new server (still with the same host)... I bet you have Zone Alarm or E-Trust Ez-Firewall installed...that is most likely the problem as recently stated on this thread. Have you checked on a different machine? -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laziness: Success is a journey, not a destination. Stop running. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] Who's putting javascript in my code?
Carol Doersom wrote: (I'm using FF1.0.1. ) Actually Neerav and Patrick are right that it's something Zone Alarm does. I turned off ad blocking and the postamble line went away, eliminating 2 of the warnings I was getting. Can't figure out how to lose the in-head line, though. One of the links posted suggested using Mozilla's Adblock extension and putting that http address in the filter list, but that hasn't worked for me. I'll probably just uninstall ZA, since I'm just using a trial version and I'm behind a switch on a network, so I don't seem to need it anyhow.. I wanted to contact them about it first, but their website isn't working, which really instills confidence Thanks to all of you for your help! Carol I used to used ZA at home and dumped it last year due to poor performance. If I remember correctly, you need to turn off something with cookies to get rid of the preAmble() - I can't remember at the moment. I highly recommend Trend Micro Internet Security Suite 2005. hth, .pjf -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are 6 billion people on this planet.and I like 8 of them. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Firefox bug on mouse scrolling
designer wrote: Hi all, I notice a bug in Firefox (I think it is, anyway) which shows itself as a 2-3 pixel gap appearing in the bottom border of an image when the viewport is altered by scrolling with the mouse wheel. It doesn't affect all the images (strange) only some, and the image must be outside the viewport before scrolling. In other words, an image which is near the top of the 'page' must be scrolled off the page and back on again for the effect to happen. Conversely, images which are low down the page (and hence, below the viewport) appear with the gap on mouse scrolling down. I've googled, and there does seem to be stuff out there about mouse scrolling and Firefox, but the refs seem to relate to Firefox 0.8 and the comments are a bit chaotic to say the least. I was hoping that one of you wizards would know about this, know if there was a fix, or know if the new Firefox has fixed it? You can see the effect by looking at: www.marscovista.fsnet.co.uk/urban/cv/resume.html - I'm using Firefox 1.0, BTW. I checked out the effect you mentioned with the link you suggested. Honestly, I can't tell anything is wrong on WinXP in FF-1.0.1. What operating system are you on? I'm thinking it could be a video display driver problem with mouse scrolling - have you updated you display driver recently? Maybe a screen shot of what you are seeing might help... .pjf -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
Tatham Oddie wrote: I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- All, Without out taking up too much of your time, itd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ and let me know anything that leaps in your face as bad. Please be brutal. Im hoping there wont be too much of a beating, but if there is Id prefer to do it now before we dump in all the content and move to production. (PS. Notice the XHTML1.1 validating ASP.NET? J) Thanks in advance! Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance www.fueladvance.com My local version of Tidy is complaining about the empty p tag on line 77 on the main page - it's just a warning however. div class="contentBlock" h2Extranet Login/h2 fieldset labelExtranet Login/label p /p div REFERENCE: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#edef-P W3C: "We discourage authors from using empty P elements. User agents should ignore empty P elements." However when I strip it - your content boxes no long line up in FF. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog :: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone :: 651-204-0513
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning mates, I've just completed a re-design of a customer's site using web standards. My XHTML (strict) and CSS validate with no errors. I'm primarily interested in feedback pertaining to my code and how closely it adheres to proper semantic markup. In addition, any input regarding my CSS syntax and structure is also greatly appreciated. Of course, suggestions or comments on the site's design are always welcomed. Customer site: http://www.coylemedical.com/ I've been designing for 7 years, but studying web standards for about 15 months, and still consider myself a beginner. I did check the site in FF 1.0, Opera 7.4 and IE 6 with a few minor display differences. Please know that 78% of my visitors use IE based on my traffic report. Respectfully requested, Mario S. Cisneros This is my first post to the list. I'm a complete newbie. There appears to be a problem with the alignment of the logo in FF 1.0.1 - Win XP Pro. It also appears the same way on in IE 6. Screen shot here: http://maestropublishing.com/examples/coylemedical_logo_scrnprint.png I'm a system programmer and I'm pretty new to css (learning it on the side), so I'm not sure of the fix for this. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\RUN C:\WINDOWS\RUN\AMUCK -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning mates, I've just completed a re-design of a customer's site using web standards. My XHTML (strict) and CSS validate with no errors. I'm primarily interested in feedback pertaining to my code and how closely it adheres to proper semantic markup. In addition, any input regarding my CSS syntax and structure is also greatly appreciated. Of course, suggestions or comments on the site's design are always welcomed. Customer site: http://www.coylemedical.com/ I've been designing for 7 years, but studying web standards for about 15 months, and still consider myself a beginner. I did check the site in FF 1.0, Opera 7.4 and IE 6 with a few minor display differences. Please know that 78% of my visitors use IE based on my traffic report. Respectfully requested, Mario S. Cisneros Also, IE 6 appear strangely as well: http://maestropublishing.com/examples/coylemedical_logo_scrnprint_2.png -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone :: 651-204-0513 I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
