Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Actaully, I've seen the results of taking English text and treating
it as ABC.
Actually I think it is a program out there that does that.
I think that's probably my one, TIAO (Text In Abc Out) - VBScript only at
the moment so useless for all
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, John Chambers wrote:
Eric writes:
| I don't want to do that myself, you understand; just curious, because it
| was such a very long time that they weren't available.
|
| On the other hand, I'm sure the copyright has expired by now
Part of the fun of this story
Richard Robinson writes:
|
| And one of the properties of Hebrew/Aramaic is that usually only the
| consonants are written. It turns out that nearly every string of 3 or
| 4 consonants is a word, so you can "read" most sequences of random
| letters. Whether this is sensible is another
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, John Chambers wrote:
Richard Robinson [w]rites:
| On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Wendy Galovich wrote:
|
|Really?? What do the Dead Sea Scrolls sound like in abc?? :-)
| (Sorry John, I couldn't resist!)
|
| Quite right too - it's the best bit of bait I've seen in ages :)
John Chambers wrote:
|
| Really?? What do the Dead Sea Scrolls sound like in abc?? :-)
| (Sorry John, I couldn't resist!)
Hmm ... Maybe we could find the transcriptions on the Web, stick an
ABC header on a few passages, and see what they sound like. It makes
as much sense as
John Chambers wrote:
Still, I'd estimate that there are maybe 20K truly distinct ABC tunes
on the web that my search program has found, on about 125 machines.
Here are the 123 ABC sites I've listed at The Free Sheet Music Directory.
It's probably not absolutely identical to John's list
Richard Robinson wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Wendy Galovich wrote:
At 09:31 PM 1/5/2001 UTC, John Chambers wrote:
... In a couple cases, people have scanned in music
so that others can transcribe it to abc. (This isn't unusual; it has
been done with a lot of old documents, most
John Chambers wrote:
Laura writes:
| I think the problem is that parsing lilypond files is more complicated
| because they potentially have more structure than ABC files, and can
| have includes, etc. I don't know how difficult what you do with the
| ABC would be in practice.
I think
On Juanury 4th John Henckel suggested to make the abc notation XML
compatible, but then said he had changed his mind since that would have
meant would sacrifying too much of the clarity and
usability of ABC.
Richard Robinsons replyed:
Have you ever looked at raw musixtex, as, eg, hint hint,
Eric writes:
| I don't want to do that myself, you understand; just curious, because it
| was such a very long time that they weren't available.
|
| On the other hand, I'm sure the copyright has expired by now
Part of the fun of this story was that the original "owners" tried to
make a
"Frank" == Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Frank Wil Macaulay wrote:
Lets have a little reality check here, and ask ourselves a
couple of simple questions: Why are there almost twenty
thousand tunes freely available in abc format on the internet,
more
Laura writes:
| "Frank" == Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| Frank Wil Macaulay wrote:
| Lets have a little reality check here, and ask ourselves a
| couple of simple questions: Why are there almost twenty
| thousand tunes freely available in abc format on the
At 09:31 PM 1/5/2001 UTC, John Chambers wrote:
... In a couple cases, people have scanned in music
so that others can transcribe it to abc. (This isn't unusual; it has
been done with a lot of old documents, most notoriously with the Dead
Sea Scrolls.)
Really?? What do the Dead Sea
"John" == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John In a couple cases, people have scanned in music so that
John others can transcribe it to abc. (This isn't unusual; it
John has been done with a lot of old documents, most notoriously
John with the Dead Sea Scrolls.)
We
I'm astonished to hear that the Dead Sea Scrolls have been translated to abc,
it's more versatile than I thought ;) But all kidding aside, the ultimate value
of tunes as a resource is to be found when you've got a sizeable quantity of
them freely available for expert users (and here, by the
John Chambers wrote:
I wonder how feasible it would be to add other formats to my abc
search bot? I've glanced at lilypond and MusicXML, but not long
enough to grok how I might write code to extract information such as
titles, keys, etc. I looked into adding midi to my index,
| I'm astonished to hear that the Dead Sea Scrolls have been translated to abc,
| it's more versatile than I thought ;) But all kidding aside, the ultimate value
| of tunes as a resource is to be found when you've got a sizeable quantity of
| them freely available for expert users (and here, by
Wendy quipped:
| At 09:31 PM 1/5/2001 UTC, John Chambers wrote:
| ... In a couple cases, people have scanned in music
| so that others can transcribe it to abc. (This isn't unusual; it has
| been done with a lot of old documents, most notoriously with the Dead
| Sea Scrolls.)
|
| Really??
Laura writes:
| I think the problem is that parsing lilypond files is more complicated
| because they potentially have more structure than ABC files, and can
| have includes, etc. I don't know how difficult what you do with the
| ABC would be in practice.
I think you're right. Includes are
At 04:39 PM 1/5/2001 +0100, Frank wrote:
I've started building a multiformat sheet music search engine, indexing
music in GIF, JPEG, PS, PDF and ABC formats (the only truly
cross-platform compatible formats for notated music).
What?? You forgot the most important one! MIDI files are
Eric wrote:
|
| Well, I haven't looked much at MusicXML, so I can't really comment
| there. However, with Lilypond, look for a \header block (Lily syntax is
| sort of similar to TeX, since it translates to TeX which actually does
| the typesetting). It looks something like:
|
| \header {
|
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, John Chambers wrote:
Still, I'd estimate that there are maybe 20K truly distinct ABC tunes
on the web that my search program has found, on about 125 machines.
I've found a couple dozen new sites in the past month or so. Most of
them are small, but there was one site
Richard Robinson wrote:
| On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, John Chambers wrote:
|
| Is this feasible with any other musical formats?
|
| Yeah. You grab an instrument, go down the local pub, meet up with some
| other players, and play your tunes at them and let them do the same to
| you; and pretty soon
sigh
You are absolutely right, XML is extensible, logical, and clean - to
parsers. There are even music-related DTDs. Maybe we should
write _all_music in XML - get rid of those funny dots, and stop
pretending that an open oval _really_ somehow has a time value
equal to four times a closed oval
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