I guess the trans-infinite is computable, given infinite resources. It
doesn't make sense to me except that the infinite does not exist as a
number-like object, it is an active process of incrementation or something
like that. End of Count.
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agi
I see that erasure is from an alternative definition for a Turing Machine.
I am not sure if a four state Turing Machine could be used to
make Solomonoff Induction convergent. If all programs that required working
memory greater than the length of the output string could be eliminated then
that
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com wrote:
I see that erasure is from an alternative definition for a Turing Machine.
I am not sure if a four state Turing Machine could be used to
make Solomonoff Induction convergent. If all programs that required working
memory
I can write an algorithm that is capable of describing ('reaching') every
possible irrational number - given infinite resources. The infinite is not
a number-like object, it is an active form of incrementation or
concatenation. So I can write an algorithm that can write *every* finite
state of
I think I can write an abbreviated version, but there would only be a few
people in the world who would both believe me and understand why it would
work.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com wrote:
I can write an algorithm that is capable of describing ('reaching')
Sometime when you are flying between the northwest US to/from Las Vegas,
look out your window as you fly over Walker Lake in eastern Nevada. At the
south end you will see a system of roads leading to tiny buildings, all
surrounded by military security. From what I have been able to figure out,
you
How about you go to war yourself or send your children. I'd rather send a
robot. It's safer for both the soldier and the people on the ground because
you don't have to shoot first, ask questions later.
And you're right, we shouldn't monitor anyone. We should just allow
terrorists to talk openly
Steve:How about an international ban on the deployment of all unmanned and
automated weapons?
You might as well ask for a ban on war (or, perhaps, aggression). I strongly
recommend reading the SciAm July 2010 issue on robotic warfare. The US already
operates from memory somewhere between
I don't often request list moderation, but if this kind of off-topic spam
and clueless trolling doesn't call for it, nothing does, so: I hereby
request that a moderator take appropriate action.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Steve Richfield
steve.richfi...@gmail.comwrote:
Sometime when you are
[Here's the SciAm article - go see the illustrations too. We should really be
discussing all this technologically because it strikes me as the closest to
real AGI there is - and probably where we're likely to see the soonest advances]
WAR MACHINES
Robots on and above the battlefield are
Matt,
I grant you your points, but they miss the my point. Where is this
ultimately leading - to a superpower with the ability to kill its opponents
without any risk to itself. This may be GREAT so long as you agree with and
live under that superpower, but how about when things change for the
On 1 August 2010 21:18, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
Ian Parker wrote
McNamara's dictum seems on
the face of it to contradict the validity of Psychology as a
science.
I don't think so. That in unforseen events people switch to
improvisation isn't suprising. Even an AGI,
Steve Richfield wrote:
I would feel a **LOT** better if someone explained SOME scenario to
eventually
emerge from our current economic mess.
What economic mess?
Steve Richfield wrote:
How about an international ban on the deployment of all unmanned and
automated
weapons?
How about a ban on suicide bombers to level the playing field?
1984 has truly arrived.
No it hasn't. People want public surveillance. It is also necessary for AGI. In
order for
Jim, you are thinking out loud. There is no such thing as trans-infinite. How
about posting when you actually solve the problem.
-- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com
From: Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com
To: agi agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010
Jim,
:) Looks to me like you are developing your own internally consistent
mathematics without worrying about relating it back to the standard stuff.
(How do you define the result of running a program continuum long? Is the
result unique?) This is great, but it might be worth your while to later
Abram Wrote:
I take this as evidence that there is a very strong mental landscape...
if you go in a particular direction there is a natural series of landmarks,
including both great ideas and pitfalls that everyone runs into. (Different
people take different amounts of time to climb out of
Jim,
Interestingly, the formalization of Solomonoff induction I'm most familiar
with uses a construction that relates the space of programs with the real
numbers just as you say. This formulation may be due to Solomonoff, or
perhaps Hutter... not sure. I re-formulated it to gloss over that in
Matt,
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Matt Mahoney matmaho...@yahoo.com wrote:
Steve Richfield wrote:
How about an international ban on the deployment of all unmanned and
automated weapons?
How about a ban on suicide bombers to level the playing field?
Of course we already have that.
Matt,
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Matt Mahoney matmaho...@yahoo.com wrote:
Steve Richfield wrote:
I would feel a **LOT** better if someone explained SOME scenario to
eventually emerge from our current economic mess.
What economic mess?
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