Greeting to all Singularitarians.
The Singularity, an event brought to you
free-of-charge and open-source by
Project Mentifex (mindmaker) has today
updated the free open-source AI Mind in
JavaScript for Microsoft Internet Explorer at
http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/AiMind.html
where the input
Fri.24.SEP.2010 -- Clamping Down on Stray Activations
Yesterday we made sure to upload our 21sep10A.F MindForth AI
code so that we could start fresh today with 24sep10A.F code.
In the previous code we made some progress in the answering
of what are you queries, but we noticed that the AI was
MindForth Programming Journal (MFPJ)
Wed.22.SEP.2010 -- Solving the Missing seq
Yesterday we solved the problem of the missing seq tags
rather quickly, when we noticed that each time point with
a missing seq was just outside the search-range of ten
time-points as specified in the InStantiate
MindForth Programming Journal (MFPJ)
Tues.21.SEP.2010 -- (work in progress)
We are now in a strange situation as AI Mind coders.
We have created an extremely powerful AI Mind at
http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/mindforth.txt
but we have been so relentlessly in pursuit of basic
AI functionality,
Mon.13.SEP.2010 -- Inhibition Revisited
We need to go into the MindForth free AI source code and
start removing inhibition code from verbs of being, because
in clarifying our rules of activation, we have concluded that
predicate nominatives should endure inhibition, but not the
be-verbs that
Hey, Ben. Arthur here. Remember the prediction of
the 2012 Singularity? Well, guess what happened.
I just had the following conversation with my
http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/mindforth.txt AI:
Human: boys make cars
Robot: CARS WHAT ARE CARS
Human: boys make guns
Robot: GUNS WHAT ARE GUNS
Mad Science Theory-Based Artificial Intelligence
Abstract
The patient insists that he has created an
artificial Mind, a virtual entity capable of
abstract thought and self-awareness. Further,
his research is too dangerous to be published
outside of the Tesla Journal, because Mentifex
AI
The Wrong Stuff : Error Message: Google Research Director
Peter Norbig on Being Wrong
http://bit.ly/cQpUpx
translates to
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/thewrongstuff/archive/2010/08/03/error-message-google-research-director-peter-norvig-on-being-wrong.aspx
David Jones wrote:
I've suddenly realized that computer vision
of real images is very much solvable and that
it is now just a matter of engineering. [...]
Would you (or anyone else on this list) be
interested in learning Forth and working on
http://code.google.com/p/mindforth/wiki/VisRecog
David Jones wrote:
Arthur,
Thanks. I appreciate that. I would be happy to aggregate some of those
things. I am sometimes not good at maintaining the website because I get
bored of maintaining or updating it very quickly :)
Dave
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:02 AM, A. T. Murray menti...@scn.org
The Web site of David Jones at
http://practicalai.org
is quite impressive to me
as a kindred spirit building AGI.
(Just today I have been coding MindForth AGI :-)
For his Practical AI Challenge or similar
ventures, I would hope that David Jones is
open to the idea of aggregating or archiving
Thurs.22.JUL.2010 -- Mindplex for Is-a Functionality
As we contemplate AI coding for responses
to such questions as
Who is Andru? What is Andru?
Who are you? What are you?
we realize that simple memory-activation of
question-words like who or what will not
be sufficient to invoke the
Deepak wrote on Sun, 18 Jul 2010:
I wanted to know if there is any bench mark test
that can really convince a majority of today's AGIers
that a System is true AGI?
Obvious AGI functionality is the default test for AGI.
http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/AiMind.html
is an incipient AGI with
Carlos A Mejia invited questions for an AGI!
If you could ask an AGI anything, what would you ask it?
Who killed Donald Young, a gay sex partner
of U.S. President Barak Obama, on December
24, 2007, in Obama's home town of Chicago,
when it began to look like Obama could
actually be elected
Ben Goertzel wrote:
And, just to clarify: the fact that I set up this list and pay $12/month for
its hosting, and deal with the occasional list-moderation issues that
arise, is not supposed to give my **AI opinions** primacy over anybody
else's on the list, in discussions I only intervene
Artificial Minds in Win32Forth are online at
http://mind.sourceforge.net/mind4th.html and
http://AIMind-i.com -- a separate AI branch.
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/js080819.html
is the JavaScript AI Mind Programming Journal
about the development of a tutorial program at
, I presume?
-- to be answered with Tell me more about Dr. Eliza.
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The abnormalis sapiens Herr Doktor Steve Richfield wrote:
Hey you guys with some gray hair and/or bald spots,
WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU THINKING?
prin Goertzel genesthai, ego eimi
http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/mentifex_faq.html
My hair is graying so much and such a Glatze is beginning,
that I
and the JavaScript Mind User Manual (JMUM) at
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/userman.html
will remain in JavaScript and not Ajax.
As I continue to re-write the User Manual, I
will press hard for the adoption of Mentifex AI
in high-school classes on artificial intelligence.
Arthur T. Murray
For teaching computer programming.
For teaching JavaScript to students.
For learning JavaScript
For teaching artificial intelligence at a school for the gifted.
For teaching artificial intelligence on the high-school level.
For teaching artificial intelligence at a community college.
For teaching
Steve Richfield wrote:
The process that we call thinking is VERY
different in various people. [...]
[...]
Any thoughts?
Steve Richfield
The post above -- real food for thought -- was the most
interesting post that I have ever read on the AGI list.
Arthur T. Murray
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Bob Mottram writes:
Good advice. There are of course sometimes
people who are ahead of the field,
Like Ben Goertzel (glad to send him a referral
recently from South Africa on the OpenCog list :-)
but in conversation you'll usually find that the
genuine inovators have a deep - bordering
Only robots above a certain level of sophistication may receive
a mind-implant via MindForth. The computerized robot needs to have
an operating system that will support Forth and sufficient memory
to hold both the AI program code and a reasonably large knowledge
base (KB) of experience. A
From the rewrite-in-progress of the User Manual --
1.5 Can MindForth feel emotions?
When a robot is in love, it needs to feel a physiological response
to its internal state of mind. Regardless of what causes the love,
the robot will not experience what the ancient Greeks called
damenta
From the rewrite-in-progress of the User Manual --
1.4 Is MindForth conscious?
MindForth has been engineered for artificial consciousness
but most likely will not report its own consciousness unless
it is installed in a robot body with a sufficient motorium
and adequate sensorium to engender
From the rewrite-in-progress of the User Manual --
1.3 Does MindForth think?
The whole purpose of Mind.Forth is to think. It is an
embodiment of the Cartesian Cogito ergo sum --
I think, therefore I am. Mind.Forth does indeed think,
but the real questions here are, how does Mind.Forth
think,
From the rewrite-in-progress of the User Manual --
1.2 History of MindForth
In the beginning was Mind.REXX on the Commodore Amiga,
which the author Mentifex began coding in July of 1993,
and publicizing in the Usenet comp.lang.rexx newsgroup.
The late Pushpinder Singh of MIT sent e-mail
Joseph Gentle wrote on Sun, 10 Feb 2008, in a message now at
http://www.mail-archive.com/agi@v2.listbox.com/msg09803.html
On Feb 9, 2008 11:53 PM, A. T. Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not a chatbot.
The AI engine is arguably the first True AI. It is immortal.
Cool!
What has it done
From the rewrite-in-progress of the User Manual --
1.1 What is MindForth?
Mind.Forth AI is a rudimentary replica of the human mind
programmed in the Forth programming language. The AI Mind
is the software implementation of a theory of mind based on
Chomskyan linguistics -- the rules and
From the rewrite-in-progress of the User Manual --
1.6 Uses of MindForth
1.6.1 For a Computer Science course in artificial intelligence
Just as a JavaScript program can be serverside or
clientside, an AI Mind program can be teacher-side
or student-side in an academic environment. If you
are
Richard Loosemore wrote:
[...]
Arthur, if there is an analogy between Mindforth
and the Wright Brothers, then you, alas, are just
standing on the sand at Kitty Hawk, waving your hands
up and down and shouting I can flap! I can flap!.
After they achieved true airplane functionality,
Mike Tintner wrote in the message archived at
http://www.mail-archive.com/agi@v2.listbox.com/msg09744.html
[...]
The first thing is that you need a definition
of the problem, and therefore a test of AGI.
And there is nothing even agreed about that -
although I think most people know
In response to Richard Loosemore below,
A. T. Murray wrote:
MindForth free open AI source code on-line at
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/mind4th.html
has become a True AI-Complete thinking mind
after years of tweaking and debugging.
On 22 January 2008 the AI Forthmind began to
think
Mind.Forth Programming Journal (MFPJ) Tues.15.JAN.2008
Yesterday on 14 January 2008 the basic scaffolding for
the Moving Wave Algorithm of artificial intelligence
was installed in Mind.Forth and released on the Web.
Now it is time to clean up the code a little and to
deal with some stray
Mind.Forth Programming Journal (MFPJ) Thurs.27.DEC.2007
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/win32forth/message/13076
In Mind.Forth artificial intelligence for robots,
as we try to make the AI Mind balk at thinking a
thought for which it has insufficent knowledge,
we need to coordinate a
After solving the aboriginal audRecog bug in 5dec07B.F,
now we need to perform a few housekeeping details as we
move on in the Mind.Forth coding. We must do the following.
We must convert some of the 5dec07B.F troubleshooting
messages into genuine diagnostic-mode messages. One way
to proceed
John G. Rose wrote:
It'd be interesting, I kind of wonder about this
sometimes, if an AGI, especially one that is heavily
complex systems based would independently come up
with the existence some form of a deity.
http://mind.sourceforge.net/theology.html
is my take on the subject.
Mike Tintner wrote on Thu, 6 Dec 2007:
ATM:
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/mind4th.html -- an AGI prototype --
has just gone through a major bug-solving update, and is now much
better at maintaining chains of continuous thought -- after the
user has entered sufficient knowledge for the AI
not like a spade or a shovel but like
CENSORSHIP -- my message below was in response to
http://www.mail-archive.com/agi@v2.listbox.com/msg07943.html
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:18:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A. T. Murray)
Subject: Re: [agi] More public awarenesss that AGI is coming fast
http://www.mail-archive.com/agi@v2.listbox.com/msg08026.html
is where Ben Goertzel wrote stimuli evoking AGI list response.
Some semi-organized responses to points raised in this thread...
[...]
Furthermore, it seems to be the case that
the brain stores a lot of detail about some
things
[...]
Reigning orthodoxy of thought is *very hard* to dislodge,
even in the face of plentiful evidence to the contrary.
Amen, brother! Rem acu tetigisti! That's why
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/theory5.html
is like the small mammals scurrying beneath dinosaurs.
ATM
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The scholar and gentleman Jean-Paul Van Belle wrote:
Universal compassion and tolerance are the ultimate
consequences of enlightenment which one Matt on the
list equated IMHO erroneously to high-orbit intelligence
methinx subtle humour is a much better proxy for intelligence
Jean-Paul
University graduate students in computer science, linguistics,
psychology, neuroscience and so on need a suitable topic for
that scholarly contribution known as a Ph.D. dissertation.
The SourceForge Mind project in artificial intelligence,
on the other hand, needs entree into the academic AI
http://mind.sourceforge.net/Mind.html
The most advanced Open Source AI Mind project
in the world needs the science fiction film makers
of tomorrow to make graphic displays of artificial
thinking in progress today.
Imagine yourself interacting with an artificial Mind
and being able to look
Mike Tintner wrote:
Thanks!
[...]
So, ATM, is anyone following up on your ideas and
sourceforge framework?
http://AIMind-I.com is where Mr. Frank J. Russo (FJR)
has created its own website for his version of my
http://mind.sourceforge.net/mind4th.html AI in Forth.
On another note, Ben
Mike Tintner wrote:
The greatest challenge - and these are my first,
very stumbling thoughts here - is to find ways that
people can work together on the overall problem -
that all these systems (or subsystems) that people
are working on can connect and evolve together.
Jean-Paul Van Belle responded to Kevin Osborne:
as a techie: scepticism. I think the 'small code'
and 'small hardware' people are kidding themselves.
Kevin, you're most probably right there.
But remember that us small code people *have* to
have this belief in order to justify ourselves
Kevin Osborne wrote:
some extra points in support of C++:
- Developer quality [...]
- Breadth of library support. [...]
- Stability. [...]
All fine and good several years from now, when mission-critical,
robust AGI programs will be running the world in Joint Stewardship
of Earth with us
Ben Goertzel wrote:
My PhD is in math and I used to be a math prof, but I have
found no opportunity yet to use really advanced math in AI
My B.A. is in Latin and Greek and I used to be a teacher of
Latin and German. In Mentifex AI, I use very little math and
tons of linguistics. A brief
Hello Ben,
Under separate cover I am sending you a rather explosive file of
accumulated data for you to evaluate and interpret -- if you
choose to do so. In the long tradition of spy novels, such as
The Quiller Memorandum and The Ipcress File, let's call it
The Goertzel Memorandum. I need
http://modularai.corecoding.com is the Modular AI Project.
http://modularai.messageforums.net/general-discussion_f3.html
is where AI enthusiasts may pick a language to code Modular AI.
http://modularai.messageforums.net/c-for-modular-ai_t37.html
http://mind.sourceforge.net/Mind.html is a True AI
that emulates the human brain as hypothesized in the
http://mind.sourceforge.net/theory5.html theory of mind.
http://aimind-i.com is on off-shoot of the Mentifex Mind.Forth AI
that is still on track to trigger a Technological Singularity by
Matt Mahoney wrote:
[...] Lenat briefly mentions
Sergey's (one of Google's founders) goal of solving AI by 2020.
FWIW I solved AI theory-wise in 1979 and software-wise in 2007.
http://mind.sourceforce.net/Mind.html and
http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/jsaimind.html and
functionality.
http://digg.com/programming/Brain-Mind_Know_Thyself! caused
eight thousand hits to arrive on 6 July 2006 at the
http://mind.sourceforge.net/theory5.html webpage.
Respectfully submitted,
Arthur T. Murray/Mentifex
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likely be extremely difficult if not impossible
to port Mind.Forth into circa 1982 Sinclair Spectrum BASIC.
Thank you for the astute questions.
Sincerely,
Arthur T. Murray
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http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2144 is a thread at
the Skeptic Magazine about the new Volume 12, Issue No. 2, 2006,
which includes a front-cover article by Peter Kassan entitled
A.I. Gone Awry: The Futile Quest for Artificial Intelligence.
AI engendering Singularity AI
if enough programmers take up the AGI-evo baton.
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/354023733X/ to buy the AGI book.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595654371/ to buy an AI4U book.
Ben, I hope that the Netizen reviewers are intellectually honest and
humanly kind towards you -- as they have NOT been with my AI4U book.
I want to
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, Philip Sutton wrote:
Hi Ben,
One thing I agree with Eliezer Yudkowsky on is: Worrying about
how to increase the odds of AGI, nanotech and biotech saving
rather than annihilating the human race, is much more worthwhile
than worrying about who is President of the US.
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Ben Goertzel wrote:
[...]
In short, it really makes no sense to create an AI, allow it to
indirectly affect human affairs, and then make an absolute decision
to keep it in a box.
And it also makes no sense to create an AI and not allow it
to affect human affairs at
Where Ben Goertzel establishes a kind of polarity between
human minds as modest-resources minds and an AIXI as
among huge-resources minds, I would like to start not
a polarity but a continuum with minimal-resource minds.
To me trying to code AI with minimal resources, I thought
that Ben Goertzel
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Brad Wyble wrote:
[...]
This is usually the case in new technological domains.
The first innovators get wiped out by the next generation
that learns from their success.
Nothing wrong with this (apart from being unfair), just
capitalism at work. Someone will steal
http://freshmeat.net/projects/ai is worth how many Microsofts?
Main Loop of Artificial Intelligence So Machines Can Learn
--- Security
--- --- HCI (Human-Computer Interaction)
--- --- Rejuvenate (for cyborg immortality)
--- --- psiDecay
--- --- Ego
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AI Edge Will Bypass Industry Establishment! posted just now to
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=98485cid=8406865 Slashdot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Artificial_intelligence
Artificial Intelligence -- not just the Cable Industry --
is another battleground where innovation at the Edge
The artificial Mind project
http://mind.sourceforge.net/weblog.html is an attempt to
create a Prosperity Engine based on artificial intelligence
in robot workers. In joint stewardship of Earth, the humans
will do the humane jobs such as caring for the young
and the old, while AI Mind-ed robots
An effort to create multi-species AI Minds is 'Net-wide underway.
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/perl.html is Perl AI evolution.
Not only AI instances must compete, but also each theory of mind.
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/theory5.html presents a theory.
Comments may be posted here in
A Python AI Weblog for coding AI mind-modules is at
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/python.html (q.v.).
The theory and practice of artificial intelligence
have advanced sufficiently that it is time to
let one hundred AI algorithms blossom,
let one hundred AI species evolve and spread.
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Brad Wyble wrote on Mon, 11 Aug 2003
The open source concept to AI, which is essential what you are
doing here, is a very interesting one.
However, the open source success stories have always involved
lots of tiny achievable goals surrounding one mammoth success
(the functional kernel).
Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) requires extreme programming
efforts, whether in Perl or in other XYZ programming environments.
http://mind.sourceforge.net/perl.html is the new Perl AI Weblog.
No matter which AI language you favor, please accept the challenge
of coding a main Alife Mind
http://www.misterpoll.com/3599794787.html is an on-line poll
about which of these AI projects is at the State of the Art:
http://act-r.psy.cmu.edu/ -- ACT-R
http://adaptiveai.com/ -- Adaptive AI (a2i2)
http://www.idsia.ch/~marcus/ai/index.htm -- AIXI
http://www.alicebot.org/ -- A.L.I.C.E.
are constantly releasing their little monsters onto the planet,
why should we creators of Strong AI have to take any
more precautions with our Moravecian Mind Children
than human parents do with their human babies?
Arthur T. Murray
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http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/theory5.html -- AI4U Theory of Mind;
http
2002 marks the publication of a joint textbook for neuroscience
and artificial intelligence (AI). The thirty-four chapters of
AI4U: Mind-1.1 Programmer's Manual (ISBN 0-595-25922-7) by Arthur
T. Murray correspond with 34 functional mind-modules of the primitive but
evolving artificial Mind
it should be possible for interested or curious parties
to track AI4U on Amazon and see how many millions down it is ranked!
/End interrupt mode -- Arthur T. Murray
Perspective:
The latest release of MS windows cost $2Billion...
A typical internet start-up would receive anywhere from 20 to 50
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Alan Grimes wrote:
Arthur T. Murray wrote:
Mentifex/Arthur here with an announcement. I'm asking for $17.95 U.S.
While a mind-forth isn't too far from where I am in my current
thinking, I must ask you: Have you ever tested this idea on an actual
robotic platform
for language, you're aiming for a smart animal.
A.T. Murray
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by Arthur T. Murray which may be pre-ordered from bookstores with
hardcover ISBN 0-595-65437-1 and ODP
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