Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 05/06/2024 20:15, Meowie Gamer wrote: I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 to a conversation about USE? Because they're using USE or whatever to force packages to stay on 3.11,

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 05/06/2024 13:12, Eli Schwartz wrote: Which I think is fine, if people want that, but not everyone does, so delaying the update altogether might be preferable to those people. Ie people like me who don't give a monkeys about python, and consider it a necessary evil. As far as I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 05/06/2024 13:28, Rich Freeman wrote: Implementing dynamic USE management would take somebody a fair bit of effort, and for all I know it would make every emerge you run take an hour to recompute the dependency tree. The ability to configure USE flags, along with the ability to dynamically

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 16:34, Dale wrote: The way I did my last two rigs is this.  Find the fastest CPU.  Drop down about 2 models.  That is not the fastest but very close to it but a LOT cheaper.  Then buy a mobo and memory to go with it.  You get a system that is likely close to 90% of the fastest you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although at the launch, both the new boards and cpus are

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 02/06/2024 14:27, Dale wrote: Should I put the portage work directory on a spinning rust drive to save wear and tear on the SSD or have they got to the point now that doesn't matter anymore?  I know all the SSD devices have improved a lot since the first ones came out. The stuff I've seen

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 02/06/2024 06:38, Dale wrote: My plan is the CPU above for now.  Later, I will upgrade to the Ryzen 9 7900X to get even more speed.  I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB sticks. Go on the manufacturer's website, find

Re: [gentoo-user] hardware disk description

On 28/05/2024 20:51, Jude DaShiell wrote: My machine has protected mbr with gpt partitions on it. Are those kind of partitions hybrid? This is completely standard nowadays. I think the "protected MBR" just points to the first four GPT partitions. This is basically down to the fact that

Re: How to transpose?

On 25/05/2024 18:44, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: Wol, The bit about trombones in bass and Bb treble; I've only ever heard of Bb treble clef trombone in British brass band music.  What is the "American bass part" in Bb?  I've never heard of such a thing.  I know that Richard Strauß wrote tenor

Re: How to transpose?

On 23/05/2024 12:26, Kenneth Flak wrote: Great, thanks to both of you! Very clarifying. \transposition is, thus, going in the direction of instrument -> playback, whereas \transpose goes in the opposite direction, if I understand it correctly. I do a lot of brass stuff. And as you've realised,

Re: Scoop (jazz notation)

On 15/05/2024 18:54, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: On the other hand, you could argue that many examples of scoop are not intended to convey specific shapes, so a one-size-fits-all glyph is sufficient, and it is not intended to solve the problem of expressive glissando. Which, is also a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur.  Anyway, I never let it near my systems. I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do everything itself - and if you've got at all a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that a successful hacker would not, supposedly, be able to corrupt the kernel ready for a reboot into their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 02/05/2024 10:35, Michael wrote: Besides the automation this feature affords, I find it useful to know what a partition contains without having to mount it. On GPT labelled disks I make use both of the Partition Type UUID and the Partition Name. A quick glance at the gdisk output and if

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 27/04/2024 17:53, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm installing Gentoo on another old box.  To be consistent I like to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, regardless of size.  Thing is, Grub works differently with GPT than it does with the old DOS or whatever it is called,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

On 17/04/2024 10:10, Michael wrote: I am not sure the assumption "... aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with newer and newer kernels" is correct. As already mentioned newer kernels have both security and bug fixes. As long as you stick with stable gentoo-sources you'll have these

Re: Glissandos into Note

On 14/04/2024 00:22, Wols Lists wrote: On 13/04/2024 10:34, Lukas-Fabian Moser via LilyPond user discussion wrote: Hi Ben, hi Greg, thanks for bringing this up - in fact I started this morning to dig up my old work, prompted by Greg's question. It seems I only developed the functions

Re: Glissandos into Note

On 13/04/2024 10:34, Lukas-Fabian Moser via LilyPond user discussion wrote: Hi Ben, hi Greg, thanks for bringing this up - in fact I started this morning to dig up my old work, prompted by Greg's question. It seems I only developed the functions a but further back then (unfortunately I

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

On 13/04/2024 14:23, Dale wrote: I see lots of mobos with those little hard drives on a stick.  I think they called NVME or something, may have spelling wrong.  For most people, that is likely awesome.  For me, I think I'd be happy with a regular SSD.  Given that, I'd like them to make a mobo

Re: Overriding default text of \f, \p, etc.

On 12/04/2024 08:21, YTG 1234 wrote: Hello List, I want to override the default text markup used with commands such as \f, \p, \mf, etc. However, trying to define f = #(make-dynamic-script ...) doesn't work because Lilypond interprets f as a note-name. Additionally, how would I be able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Successfully upgraded to new profile 23.0

On 08/04/2024 15:03, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: the upgrade on my old laptop with two 2.7GHz Dual-Core Skylake proces- sors took slightly more than 2 hours for the manual upgrading of "bin- utils", "gcc" and "glibc", and slightly more than 21.5 hours for the fi- nal upgrade of "@world", which

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

On 07/04/2024 16:08, Michael wrote: Cool, once your system is up to date you should be able to change your profile and follow the rest of the instructions. I hope all goes well.  emerge --emptytree is now running well - 122 of 1534 so it has some way to go ... Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

On 07/04/2024 15:46, Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 13:07, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 12:04:32 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:48, Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

On 07/04/2024 13:07, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 12:04:32 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:48, Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "e

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

On 07/04/2024 11:48, Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

On 07/04/2024 11:15, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:00:49 BST Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc",

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

On 07/04/2024 11:15, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:00:49 BST Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc",

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils e

[gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...

What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Cheers, Wol

Re: Installing 2.24.1

On 06/04/2024 22:46, Knute Snortum wrote: On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 2:23 PM Wol > wrote:  > The basic procedure is simple, assuming that you are using  > Frescobaldi: What if this assumption is wrong? I've NEVER used Frescobaldi (or rather, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Every other startup results in a black screen (possibly SDDM related?)

On 03/04/2024 19:53, Jack wrote: Are you certain it hasn't started on some TTY other than 8?  I always start out on TTY1, although I start up text only, no SDDM. However, I do have a very vague memory of something similar, and I believe it was that I needed to change one of the kernel FB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 10/03/2024 22:44, Carsten Hauck wrote: The CPU of the machine in question is in deed an old AMD. It's good to know the reason for that build-failures, thanks a lot. I certainly will stick to "-clang" in my package.use. Interesting. I'm not at all sure how old my CPU is, but at four cores

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 03/03/2024 23:13, Carsten Hauck wrote: So I don't know what's going on, but basically Mozilla won't emerge, and I don't know why ... Cheers, Wol Did the other 19 package emerge OK?  Are the mozilla progs crashing when running, or when emerging?  If emerging, the log is just console

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 04/03/2024 16:20, ralfconn wrote: Il 03/03/24 10:47, Wols Lists ha scritto: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done!  * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to  * the following required packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly is wrong, or what to try ... Cheers, Wol

[gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done! * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to * the following required packages not being installed: * * >=dev-libs/icu-73.1:0/73.1= pulled in by: *

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: how does excel find commas within fields of a csv file?

On 28/02/2024 02:17, Jack wrote: On 2/27/24 20:54, Adam Carter wrote: To clean up csv files I use excel's find/replace to swap the commas occurring within fields for something benign. How does this magic work? Different character sets within the same file? Is it possible to do this with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 23/02/2024 00:28, Grant Edwards wrote: In my experience, 's bootloader does not boot other installations by calling other bootloaders. It does so by rummaging through all of the other partitions looking for kernel images, intird files, grub.cfg files, etc. It then adds menu entries to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 09/02/2024 12:57, J. Roeleveld wrote: I don't understand it exactly, but what I think happens is when I create the snapshot it allocates, let's say, 1GB. As I write to the master copy, it fills up that 1GB with CoW blocks, and the original blocks are handed over to the backup snapshot. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 08/02/2024 06:38, J. Roeleveld wrote: ZFS doesn't have this "max amount of changes", but will happily fill up the entire pool keeping all versions available. But it was easier to add zpool monitoring for this on ZFS then it was to add snapshot monitoring to LVM. I wonder, how do you deal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 08/02/2024 06:32, J. Roeleveld wrote: Personally, I'd go the MPL2 route, but that's my choice. It might not suit you. But to achieve what you want, you need a copyleft, GPL-style licence. I'll have a look at that one. Basically, each individual source file is copyleft, but not the work

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 07/02/2024 11:11, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 9:27:35 PM CET Wols Lists wrote: On 06/02/2024 13:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: Clearly Oracle likes this state of affairs. Either that, or they are encumbered in some way from just GPLing the ZFS code. Since they on paper own

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 07/02/2024 11:07, J. Roeleveld wrote: Because snapshotting uses so much less space? So much so that, for normal usage, I probably have no need to delete any snapshots, for YEARS? My comment was based on using rsync to copy from the source to the backup filesystem. Well, that's EXACTLY

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 06/02/2024 16:19, J. Roeleveld wrote: Ah! Got it. That's one of the things I've been trying to figure out this entire thread, do I need to switch home and root to ZFS to take advantage of its snapshot support for backups? In the case you're describing the "source" filesystem(s) can be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 06/02/2024 15:35, Grant Edwards wrote: If (like rsnapshot/rsync's hard-link scheme) ZFS snapshots are normal directory trees that can be "browsed" with normal filesystem tools, that would be ideal. [I'll do some googling...] Bear in mind I'm talking lvm snapshots, not ZFS ... And you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 06/02/2024 13:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: Clearly Oracle likes this state of affairs. Either that, or they are encumbered in some way from just GPLing the ZFS code. Since they on paper own the code for both projects it seems crazy to me that this situation persists. GPL is not necessarily

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 04/02/2024 15:48, Grant Edwards wrote: OK I see. That's a bit different than what I'm doing. I'm backing up a specific set of directory trees from a couple different filesystems. There are large portions of the "source" filesystems that I have no need to back up. And within those directory

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 04/02/2024 06:24, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-02-03, Wol wrote: On 03/02/2024 16:02, Grant Edwards wrote: rsnapshot is an application that uses rsync to do hourly/daily/weekly/monthly (user-configurable) backups of selected directory trees. It's done using rsync to create snapshots. They

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

On 31/01/2024 17:56, Rich Freeman wrote: I don't think there are any RAID implementations that do full write journaling to protect against the write hole problem, but those would obviously underperform zfs as well. This feature has been added to mdraid, iirc. Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] The hopeless futility of printing.

On 29/01/2024 18:19, Alan Grimes wrote: k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> Absolutely suprimo HP laser jet network printer. You didn't write what model, hard to help you then. It's a LaserJet Pro M453-4. I have absolutely no trouble with HP. But I always used hplip. I notice though it's not

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not show all imap folders

On 22/01/2024 07:04, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: I checked folder subscriptions in kmail, but I do not see the missing folders there either. Also akonadi-console does not show them. I also tried curl imaps:/// Showing all of the missing folders, so I think its an akonadi/kmail problem and not an

Re: [gentoo-user] startx error

On 09/01/2024 22:20, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I today's AI age I am supersized we have add it manually to run-level. :-/ Today's clever AI runs on Berkeley. The LSD version, not BSD. Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

On 09/01/2024 03:35, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday, 7 January 2024 08:34:15 GMT Wols Lists wrote: Weird! I took a module on statistics in my Open University (Chemistry) degree 40-odd years ago. Probably the same one? I've still got the modules as a reference work, though I probably couldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

On 07/01/2024 00:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: They seemed to say that the subject was founded on two basic principles; then they proceeded to define each of them in terms of the other. I should add, I dug into this sort of stuff, and you do know the entire edifice of Peano (ie number theory),

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

On 07/01/2024 00:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 6 January 2024 19:28:05 GMT Wols Lists wrote: Statistics is one of those areas where, if you don't know what you're doing and you use the wrong maths, then you are going to get stupid results. "Statistics tell you how to get from A

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

On 06/01/2024 17:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: In other cases, there may be a hundred separate tasks, make fires off a hundred tasks shared amongst all the resource it can find, and sits back and waits. And that's how the very first installation goes, with single-host distcc. Then, when it gets

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

On 06/01/2024 17:59, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 6 January 2024 16:21:30 GMT Wols Lists wrote: ... it's nothing to do with more power or whatever, it's down to simple statistics. If genloop guesses the statistical spread wrongly, it's going to mess up its estimates. Aren't you

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

On 06/01/2024 16:12, John Blinka wrote: And it doesn’t actually take 2x longer - the new estimate is just grossly wrong. I presume that the old estimate was also wrong. And it's nothing to do with more power or whatever, it's down to simple statistics. If genloop guesses the statistical

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

On 29/11/2023 12:06, Peter Humphreey wrote: The contribution of distcc isn't clear to me yet, as I said before. Sometimes it's the bee's knees; other times it might just as well not be there. I don't like mysteries...  As far as I'm aware, there's no mystery. On a single machine you get the

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

On 06/01/2024 00:54, John Blinka wrote: I’ve often found that it gives one estimate when multiple packages are being built, then a much longer estimate for still-in-progress builds once some of the builds have finished. That result defies common sense. Less remaining work has to take less,

Re: [gentoo-user] Virtualbox 7

On 21/12/2023 05:48, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I run Windows 7 in VirualBox-6 and it runs relatively fast but after upgrade to VirtualBox-7 (7.0.10) I noticed users weren't able to access Windows-7 server; the network got almost non responsive.  I've notice same with earlier

[sphinx-users] Thank you moderators

I know the current spate of spam is a pain, but this is the second group I'm on that's been hit, and you're doing a very good job of keeping on top of it. I'm on the mailing list, so I get hit with everything that doesn't get caught as it's posted. I'm sure you're doing the same as the

Re: [gentoo-user] New installation - not booting

On 06/12/2023 14:56, Peter Humphreey wrote: The idea is that you may want to install another system later, which may want to install its own code in /efi. By all means shrink it if you think that's unlikely and you need the space. Gparted on SysRescCD is ideal for this. I had the opposite

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot and EFI partitions

On 06/12/2023 16:36, Jack Ostroff wrote: The way I think of it is that the UEFI firmware needs to find the .efi loader, and it can only read FAT32 formatted partitions labelled as type esp. That .efi loader then needs to find your kernel and related files, but as it is specific for

Re: [gentoo-user] ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

On 04/12/2023 08:28, Dale wrote: Oh, I see the little pointing up there but in Konsole, they never point up to the right place.  If it has a clue, I wouldn't be able to get help from it.  Also, I have some options in make.conf for emerge so I'm taking this from emerge.log to show the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Very slow POST process

On 29/11/2023 00:16, Michael wrote: Thanks Dan, will do. I was planning to take it apart soon to replace the HDD with an SSD, so this would be the first thing to check. I expect finding a replacement unit will be difficult. Every Lenovo RTC battery seems to have a different part number. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage reports preserved libs, but won't rebuild

On 24/11/2023 10:27, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2023-11-24, Arve Barsnes wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 04:07, Jack wrote: May or may not help, but have you tried revdep-rebuild? Also, you can try just one-shotting the reported packages, such as (for the last one in your list): emerge -1

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

On 20/11/2023 17:12, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:07:45PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is that, having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge on the tiny box is ignoring all

Re: Automatic annotation of slide positions/fingerings for brass instruments.

On 31/10/2023 01:36, Adam M. Griggs wrote: Your second recommendation is situational. I see you have a *.uk email address. I'm familiar with the British brass band context. I get it—almost everything is transposed for instruments pitched in Bb or Eb, and in the entire ensemble, only bass

Re: Automatic annotation of slide positions/fingerings for brass instruments.

On 29/08/2023 15:35, Adam M. Griggs wrote: Here's a little self-help reference I made a little while back. Maybe it will illustrate your point about different positions for different octaves more clearly than words can. Perhaps something in the tablature code can be adapted to this end.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

On 19/10/2023 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:49:25 -0500, Dale wrote: That config kinda reminds me of the old grub.  A title line, location of kernel and then options.  Sounds easy enough.  The new grub config is almost impossible to config by hand.  They had to make a tool

Re: [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On 16/10/2023 08:51, Dale wrote: Anyone here have ideas?  Keep in mind, that thing uses systemd.  I thought I hated that before.  I truly hate that thing now.  Trying to figure out how to restart something is like pulling teeth with no pain meds. systemctl restart servicename? I like

Re: [gentoo-user] world updates blocked by Qt

On 11/10/2023 17:44, Philip Webb wrote: 231011 Alan McKinnon wrote: Today a sync and emerge world produces a huge list of blockers. qt 5.15.10 is currently installed and qt 5.15.11 is new in the tree and being blocked. All the visible blockers are Qt itself so --verbose-conflicts is needed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

On 19/09/2023 10:13, Dale wrote: That's a interesting way to come up with passwords tho.  I've seen that is a few whodunit type shows.  Way back in the old days, they had some interesting ways of coding messages.  Passwords are sort of similar. Back when we were busy conquering India ... The

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

On 20/09/2023 19:05, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: In principle, a repeated space character in your passphrase could help reduce the computational burden of an offline brute force attack, by e.g. helping an attacker to identify the number of individual words in a passphrase. Due to the rotation,

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

On 19/09/2023 10:10, Jude DaShiell wrote: Once the set spots got figured five dice got used for letters add the total and subtract 4 for the particular letter. Which actually isn't random. It's a bell curve peaking probably between J and M. Think, if you throw 2 dice, there are 36 possible

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to move ext4 partition

On 20/09/2023 23:39, Grant Edwards wrote: Assuming GParted is smart enough to do overlapping moves, is it smart enough to only copy filesystem data and not copy "empty" sectors? According to various forum posts, it is not: moving a partion copies every sector. [That's certainly the obvious, safe

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

On 18/09/2023 11:13, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: With so many drives, you should also include a pricey power supply. And/or a server board which supports staggered spin-up. Also, drives of the home NAS category (and consumer drives anyways) are only certified for operation in groups of up to

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

On 18/09/2023 12:16, Rich Freeman wrote: This is part of why I like storage implementations that have more robustness built into the software. Granted, it is still only as good as your clients, but with distributed storage I really don't want to be paying for ECC on all of my nodes. If the

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote: I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™ (which is not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad experience in the past. OTOH it’s a pricey component usually only needed by gamers and number crunchers. On-board graphics

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the point of baloo?

On 17/09/2023 19:37, Michael wrote: However, unlike locate, baloo is meant to index not just file names, but also metadata tags and relationships relevant to files, emails and contacts. Its devs would argue it has a small footprint. So it is meant to be*more* than a simple file name indexer.

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the point of baloo?

On 17/09/2023 19:35, Peter Böhm wrote: Am Sonntag, 17. September 2023, 19:46:05 CEST schrieb Wols Lists: It always annoys me, but baloo seems to be being an absolute nightmare at the moment. I tried to kill it and it appears to have just restarted. Is there a use flag I can use to just get

[gentoo-user] What is the point of baloo?

It always annoys me, but baloo seems to be being an absolute nightmare at the moment. Iirc, it's "the file indexer for KDE" - in other words it knackers your response time reading all the files, wastes disk space building an index, and all for what? So that programs you never use can a bit

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

On 13/09/2023 12:28, Peter Humphrey wrote: A thought on compiling, which I hope some devs will read: I was tempted to push the system hard at first, with load average and jobs as high as I thought I could set them. I've come to believe, though, that job control by portage and /usr/bin/make is

Re: [gentoo-user] VPN newbie questions

On 20/08/2023 03:34, Walter Dnes wrote: I've been on Gentoo for years and years, but I've never used a VPN, so consider me an absolute newbie. Canadian big news media has successfully lobbied our government to implement a link tax. Google has decided to avoid the tax by not linking to it in

Re: [gentoo-user] Need some help with location of git clone when bisecting with 9999-ebuilds

On 11/08/2023 01:23, Yixun Lan wrote: 1) Where should I store the git clone of the repository and how do I tell emerge to read the source files from there, when emerging the ebuild, instead of downloading them from the Internet as usual? how about have a local clone of wine repository?

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

On 31/07/2023 16:55, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 31 July 2023 15:19:22 BST Wols Lists wrote: The big question that needs answering is "Are you storing your emails in dovecot, or in kmail?" In KMail. My server has fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot. Fetchmail collects POP

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

On 31/07/2023 13:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither program cares that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my mail. Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

On 29/07/2023 15:50, Arsen Arsenović wrote: But I DO have to care about postfix/main.cf. This makes the fundamental blunder of mixing distro defaults and local config in the SAME FILE. So yes it does offer me etc-update. But if I MISS THAT, I've just trashed my local config and have to rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

On 29/07/2023 14:54, Arsen Arsenović wrote: Again, it shouldn't be able to do that. Please check CONFIG_PROTECT using: portageq envvar CONFIG_PROTECT It should, normally, contain /etc, set by profiles/base/make.defaults. And here is the root of the mis-understanding between us. And also why

Re: [sphinx-users] GitLab continuous integration/deployment (CD/CI) and sphinx-doc's change detection

On 28/07/2023 13:03, Denis Bitouzé wrote: That's assuming you can control how the repo is copied, of course. I suspect they often do a "git clone" which will lose all the target files on the spot ... I'm afraid that's the case. Many thanks for your answer! I hope I could find a way to fix

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

On 29/07/2023 12:01, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hm. I already have Dovecot on my LAN server, because KMail is horribly buggy with POP3, which is what my ISP offers. So fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot became necessary before I could use IMAP4 in KMail. All incoming emails are transferred to my

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

On 29/07/2023 11:13, Arsen Arsenović wrote: Wols Lists writes: On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote: User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir, net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote: User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir, net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the box, and I've found this combination to be reliable. Just a tip

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

On 27/07/2023 17:18, Michael wrote: Although I've been using btrfs for the best part of 10 years I have not really done justice to it, because I have neither explored nor used enough most of its features. I am now thinking of installing Gentoo on btrfs again, but this time I want to optimise

Re: [sphinx-users] GitLab continuous integration/deployment (CD/CI) and sphinx-doc's change detection

On 24/07/2023 22:19, Denis Bitouzé wrote: [Y]ou are shooting yourself in your foot because you use make. make is utterly ineffective in CI pipelines because at the beginning of each pipeline the repo is cloned afresh, meaning the file modification dates of the source files are usually newer

Re: [gentoo-user] Loading modules prevents shutdown

On 17/06/2023 12:57, dhk wrote: Thanks for the tips.  After spending a lot of time on and off for a few weeks trying to keep /lib/modules on its own partition, it just did not work right; the system was scrapped and rebuilt per the trivial solution with /lib/modules on the root partition.  Now

Re: [gentoo-user] trying to get sd card reader to work

On 13/06/2023 03:01, John Blinka wrote: Good to know it all works, but if you're sticking a new card in an old reader, they may not be compatible. Don’t know what constitutes new/old, but these are <1 year old cards. Satisfied with empiric evidence that it all works. Have written mp3

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