On 5/31/06, Eric Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it is a good thing that we provide the J IDE in addtion to the old
tried and true tools.
Certainly:) However i too have been limiting my use of it. Primarily
for one reason: When J crashes it takes the ijs windows with it:( If i
use
Yes, when J crashes you may lose unsaved code, this is why intead of Ctrl+W, I
use Ctrl+S Ctrl+W all the time, esp. with things like DLL calls. To salvage ijx
you can save it periodically too, it will then just increment file name/number
in temp for the next ijx session.
ctrl w reminds me to
Eric
On 5/31/06, Eric Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you have edited several scripts at the same time and a run of one of them is
dangerous (might crash) then an S of each before the first W would be wise. The
simple habit of always running after editing largely removes this concern.
Eric wrote:
I think it is a good thing that we provide the J IDE in addtion to the old
ried and true tools.
greg wrote:
Certainly:) However i too have been limiting my use of it. Primarily for one
reason: When J crashes it takes the ijs windows with it:( If i use another editor
then i
On 5/31/06, Miller, Raul D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Note that when you save the file under a different name you do not have any
good way of getting rid of the old copy. However, if you do not save under a
different name, J will delete it if you are not careful. That moving between
the temp
On 5/31/06, Oleg Kobchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- greg heil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i do think the notebook concept is not addressed well by either ijs or ijx.
And is something closer to the heart of actual development.
Is this what you are thinking, similar to the idea in session
On 5/31/06, Chris Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it good practice to develop code in ijx, and use ijs only for
storing the code. This might work for trivial code fragments but would quickly
bog down for larger systems.
Heh, maybe you should remove the statement stack. It is
On 5/31/06, Chris Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How to quantify not getting much mileage? The debugger is not perfect, but
most things work pretty well, and I use it all the time. What specific things does it
lack?
There seems to be no way of teasing a tacit apart. No indication of
where
On 6/6/06, RS HUI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- What is ur?
- What are x and y such that the following fail:
x rute y
x rutt y
Ah, OK, i'll send you the script again
Both verbs work, just that the tacit one does not get the debug GUI to
report its argument values.
~greg
On 5/31/06, Eric Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I understand the request you can already get it with edit|configure.
Edit|Configure|Color
press Add, select arguments, press OK, press OK... Voila.
I guess the question is what if anything should be added to the default config.
Those
Then there is the oddity that if i do a File | Refresh Tabs (while in
Project or Other tabs) in the Project Manager and then go to either
the Project or Other tabs and click on a Files item ... the
highlighted item reflects a file in the Source tab not what it should
be for that tab...
i have
to understanding;-) Thanks for the guidance.
If a project is opened in Project Manager, it is not going to continually
re-read the project, just in case an external program has changed it - in this
case, exit Project Manager, make your changes, then reload it.
OK
greg heil wrote
On 6/15/06, Chris Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
greg heil wrote:
this. Otherwise i think there may be a Mailman setting that does prevent posts being
echoed back to the author. It is a common feature for mailers. Usually though
one has access, individually, to setting that option
Bill and Björn:
On 6/15/06, Björn Helgason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
If you use gmail you can cc or bcc to yourself as well as to the list and then
get your own mal in the inbox
That is what i am resorting to.
Otherwise if you want to read your own mail to the list before someone
replies on
On 6/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WRT receiving your own posts (or not):
I assume you've turned on (or perhaps toggled off and back on) the option Receive
your own posts to the list? in your list options?
No i had not touched the controls, they were in default.
Have
On 6/15/06, greg heil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's also an option
Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list?
That is set to to No.
Is an acknowledgement the same as the outgoing Posting ?
If so then perhaps
Any value to the behaviour of undo in an ijs window: which wipes the
file out, if performed after a Form Edit modification? A second undo
finishes the undo of the Form Edit operation. A subsequent redo goes
back to the clean slate, with a second redo again implementing the
form edit operation.
Thanks Bill
two separate issues:
-- IDE GUI issues
On 7/7/06, bill lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
greg heil wrote:
Dunno if this is new in the betas, but there do not seem to be keystroke
equivalents for dialog buttons - though there are underlines
Did you request something like
On 7/7/06, Henry Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
greg wrote:
formname_isigraphname_eventname_formlocale_ ''
That event is supposed to populate sysdata. Is that what you need/mean by an
output parameter?
Also hoping to get/utilise Mouse Events, but i need to first figure out the 4
On 7/8/06, Eric Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 601 o beta is available for the pockepc.
http://www.jsoftware.com/download/j601obeta_pocketpc.zip
I'm afraid the answer is that J601 (and later) require Windows CE 4.20 and we
won't be doing the considerable work to get it to work on
In the keystrokes in dialogs thread in Programming i wrote:
Though in that instance i am referring to the J GUI's dialog, for Find (there
are similar issues with other dialogs). i consider it a bug/fault to have keystroke
indications and not respond to keystrokes. Perhaps it is buried in
On 7/12/06, Oleg Kobchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One should be careful and read the startup guide.
First time I was trying to do a reset, it didn't work. As it turned
out I was poking the microphone, ... it was lucky to have survived.
Unfortunately people don't come with such manuals. Early
Find dialog has been reworked.
That's great!
There is now some keystroke interaction and the ability to repeat
finds accounts for maybe 40% of usage so one can significantly often
avoid reopening the find dialog.
However reopening the find dialog can be painful and the keystrokes
defined in
On 7/21/06, Roger Hui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If m is not a gerund, x m} y is formed by replacing by x those parts of y selected
by m{ (an error is signalled if such selection requires fill).
i like that: it will expose any problems in users code, and open the
way in the future for new
The lack of keystroke equivalents seems pervasive, at least throughout
J601beta... Eg these dialogs all have underlined letters that do not
respond to ctrl or alt keystroke combinations:
Studio | Lab
Edit | Configure
Run | Project Manager
File | Recent
Edit | Find in Files
This one does seem to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand the complaint. Things work for me as I would expect in
windows. Let's follow through on a specific case.
start J
mouse click Studio menu
mouse click Labs...
Alt+R (underlined shortcut letter on the Run button)
selected lab is run
Does this not
On 8/19/06, Eric Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do those apps do with keyboard input in the same case. That is, as the
focus for the wheel moves does the focus for up/down arrow also move. If so, I
think it simply means that mouse move events over the control do an automatic
setfocus.
On 9/8/06, Roger Hui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point of fib is not that it is better than f7a, but that M. removes the
exponential time penalty associated with a straightforward recursive algorithm.
It can also reduce the recursion stack overhead. Using a memoized K
verb i was able to push
On 9/7/06, Dan Bron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The J601 beta is over and the J601 release is now available for all platforms.
Aww, I was hoping to find out what came after Beta Z.
Well someone had to say it!
i think we should all jump up and down and scream to demand to know
what would have
Looks like i am stuck at J6.01, as J6.02 says get
Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86)
While trying to install the above package a closing dialogue box says:
This installation package is not supported by this processor type.
Contact your product vendor.
Probably
According to Chris (thanks!) this bounced
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] cannot use J6.02
From: greg heil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:03:05 -0700
To: Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
On 10/3/07, greg heil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/3/07, Eric Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
Crashes 602 beta d too.
On Nov 28, 2007 4:32 AM, Arie Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
dfh17=: 16 #. 16x | (H,h) i. ]
dfh17 14#'1'
...
This works fine under 6.01 on W2K (gets a value error for H) but
crashes 6.02c - after a few seconds, it closes the main window.
~greg
krsnadas.org
On Jan 25, 2008 6:32 PM, Henry Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This problem is always with us when there are incompatible changes. I'm just
saying that if 1!:45 could be quietly supported, the problem would disappear,
and wouldn't that be nice?
1!:45 works for you in j602?? it works for me
] wrote:
I think you have a typo in your dice_roll_button verb.
The lab specifies the verb as follows:
dice_roll_button=: 3 : 0
wd 'set values *',::?6 6
)
I.e. you have a @ instead of a *
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of greg heil
Sent: Sunday
pmove is still not working as of 6.02b(q)...
On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 6:04 PM, greg heil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pmove information is lost (ie that line in the form noun is stripped back to
pas info) when the form editor uses several options including nomin, nomax,
right bottom. Putting
a nice principle is to have the UI duplicated:
mousing, keyboarding, few mixes.
Then all (most) in either.
~greg
krsnadas.org
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fromChris Burke cbu...@jsoftware.com
reply-toBeta forum beta@jsoftware.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date18 May 2010 04:19
subject Re:
i have gone into a JHS session hosted on the Jsoftware server with two
separate machines.
Can work ... but syncing the history between the two machine/sessions
seems to require:
1 logout
2 password
3 ijx button
in FF. In contrast DropBox is fine with just a refresh in FF. Are
their
the log to your hearts content. Right now there are
just 2 options:
jlog 0 NB. clear the local log and just see new transactions
jlog _ NB. show the entire log of all transactions since J started
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fromgreg heil ghei...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date11 August
: dostdshortcut(c); break;
}
}
case 'r':
--
fromgreg heil ghei...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date11 August 2010 16:44
subject Re: [Jbeta] Syncing Jsoftware-hosted JHS session
Eric
Yes! jlog _ on a second browser session reSynchs them to their
commonality. This is better
Eric
How does one kill' a task on the JUM? i got a new login with 1.0.25 -
and it is stuck there - and the older login is stuck at an even older
release:-( Loging out, killing cookies, does not seem to be enough.
greg
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fromDon Guinn dongu...@gmail.com
to Beta forum
JUM does not seem to obey
USER/config/jhs.cfg
...at least the pswd is not synced
greg
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fromBjörn Helgason gos...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date18 October 2010 08:57
subject Re: [Jbeta] JHS JAL update 1.0.29 available
Tanks for the upgradeable
i set up a htm page consisting of an ijx, ijs and help frame from the JUM:
htmlheadtitlexsh/title/head
frameset cols=44%,*
frame src=http://www.jsoftware.com:53692/jijx; name=ijx,
scrolling='auto'
frameset rows=77%,*
frame src=http://www.jsoftware.com:53692/jijs;
a ??
greg
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fromRaul Miller rauldmil...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date25 October 2010 06:38
subject Re: [Jbeta] default switching jhs
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 5:38 PM, greg heil ghei...@gmail.com wrote:
i set up a htm page consisting of an ijx, ijs and help
Ah, i put a file frame in like this
htmlheadtitlexfsh/title/head
frameset cols=44%,*
frameset rows=44%,*
frame src=http://www.jsoftware.com:53692/jfile; name=file,
scrolling='auto'
frame src=http://www.jsoftware.com:53692/jijx; name=ijx,
scrolling='auto'
Ah one can navigate to a particular ijs file using jfile, when one
opens it, it opens into an ijs frame. Using the 'link' mechanism one
can mutate a frame to any frame type. One cannot create or destroy
frames from the browser (so far as i know) so the arrangement is set.
The main limitation to
i do have two logins - but cookies prevent one from using both ijx's.
So far i have not been able to get two working, even by switching
cookies (using the cookieswap plugin for ff (chrome?)).
greg
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fromBjörn Helgason gos...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
In the JUM cookies are use for login and context. It may well be
possible to get around this in ones local sandbox environment and have
parallel ijx's - while still having difficulties in talking to another
machine.
greg
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fromBjörn Helgason gos...@gmail.com
to Beta
The action menu shortcuts seem to run out of steam after 3 entries
which garner q, w e. The shortcuts 1 2 seem to be tied the menu
and body of a frame (perhaps a case could be made for using 3 to go to
the 'scratch form). Maybe this would be a good place to try a second
level? Eg q1, q2 q3... or
Do you mean go backwards in history?
i use the keyboard shortcuts of alt left and right arrows alot for
navigating the history. Or one can go to an entirely new URL by
dragging the URL into the window.
greg
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fromMurray Eisenberg mur...@math.umass.edu
to
If i put 1 in the paste buffer (from an html source, eg ijx or ijs
windows) and i paste into ijx and return, ijx evaluates 1. Good.
If i do 5 pastes so i get 1 on the command line and i still get 1
as the evaluation result!
Interspersing the pastes of 1 with numbers so i have 012131415 i get
If x has a string, doing
y=:x,'Z'
works, but the same line in the scratch area gets:
|domain error: jloadnoun__
| y=:x,'Z'
|[-0]
greg
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fromEric Iverson eric.b.iver...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date28 October 2010 06:46
subject Re: [Jbeta]
Re: [Jbeta] paste of marked up copy
The problem is using names x and y. The scratch window lines are run in a
verb and that verb has local copies of x and y.
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fromgreg heil ghei...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date6 November 2010 08:42
subject Re: [Jbeta] paste
...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date8 November 2010 05:14
subject Re: [Jbeta] paste of marked up copy
I can only suggest using JUM to kill and restart both tasks.
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fromgreg heil ghei...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date7 November 2010 17:42
subject Re
options require internet access
Yes, there should/needs to be access for a 'clean-room' machine, one
which can/does not have continuous internet access. A zip file or a
like snapshot would satisfy this need.
greg
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fromSherlock, Ric r.g.sherl...@massey.ac.nz
reply-to
that it can use to update its local catalog?
--
From: greg heil
Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:48
options require internet access
Yes, there should/needs to be access for a 'clean-room' machine, one
which can/does not have continuous internet access. A zip file or a
like snapshot would
watch out for line wraps...
almost a mantra on these fora;-)
Is there a way, perhaps using mark down, to get around that?
Generally it seems most email client apps seem to mess up the writers
intentions:-(( Perhaps there is a way if only in our fora (not
necessarily the wider word of emailed
level.
greg
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fromRaul Miller rauldmil...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
cc Chat forum c...@jsoftware.com
date11 January 2011 14:09
subject Re: [Jbeta] mailing browser
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:24 PM, greg heil ghei...@gmail.com wrote:
watch out for line
Bjorn
The problem is that solution is verbose (for the user) and only works
when the user has a J environment handy, it requires the user to
shuttle environments ... i am hoping for a solution for more general
readers and problems.
greg
~krsnadas.org
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fromBjörn Helgason gos...@gmail.com
and send it offNB. LC
you can send it off in small chunks
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fromgreg heil ghei...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date11 January 2011 15:53
subject Re: [Jbeta] mailing browser
Bjorn
The problem is that solution is verbose (for the user) and only works
.
--
Raul
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fromAlan K. Stebbens a...@stebbens.org
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
cc Chat forum c...@jsoftware.com
date11 January 2011 22:59
subject Re: [Jbeta] mailing browser
On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:24 PM, greg heil wrote:
watch out for line wraps...
almost a mantra on these fora
Yes! Just a second as i do not have an answer. But i do have two
clean room machines (Ubuntu and W7) which would very much like to
have J on them.
greg
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fromdavid alis david.a...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date13 January 2011 04:59
subject [Jbeta]
Bill
It is not yet done ... what is it recommended?
To begin, and to continue...
greg
~krsnadas.org
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frombill lam bbill@gmail.com
reply-toBeta forum beta@jsoftware.com
to beta@jsoftware.com
date13 January 2011 17:18
subject Re: [Jbeta] Installation without access to
That sounds easy, and in line with my projected state.
i wonder how i let J know of differing placements on the two
machines/OS's... Or are there a parts to keep?
greg
~krsnadas.org
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fromTikkanz tikk...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date13 January 2011 18:18
subject
Björn
Yes if there were a programmatic email client app made one could add a
mode for squirting through formatted etc arbitrary text- as it could
handle both coding and decoding.
greg
~krsnadas.org
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fromBjörn Helgason gos...@gmail.com
to Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date18
Eric
my interaction with the site says it is a Flash one. For me, w/o
Flash, it is write only. More famously Apple mobile eschews Flash. Has
any one succeeded with an Apple mobile?
i was able to reverse engineer a page but have not been able to do
anything with the PublicURL ... Its hash is
if there are use cases where
hopper provides interesting value.
From my iPad, reading that email, and clicking the link worked fine,
and there was nothing about flash.
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from:greg heil ghei...@gmail.com
to: Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date:19 June 2012 15:28
subject: Re
for the iPAD (one way only). Good to
know. I'm surprised as they certainly talk about iOS. Did you try
www.gethopper.com in safari with a hopper account? Judging solely on
my 1 message might not do it service.
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to: Beta forum beta@jsoftware.com
date:20 June
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