Have you tried the paste that has the probiotics in it for her rumen? That
also helps alot. Nancy
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Thank you, I will
wow! what a find! I would have never of thought it. It seems like they are
always snorting some grain when feed ground corn to worm with pellets etc
but wouldn't have thought of grass seed! Nancy
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Cecil never had anything so bad . We have thistle and sometime we see one
shaking her head but nothing like this! Sounds agrivating and painful for
the poor girl. Nancy
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We are in missouri and raise several kinds of horned sheep. We had about 2
to 1 ewes verses rams this year. But we have had tons of rain and mud. Now
its hot and humid! almost all the mud is gone. Nancy
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I agree with Cecil. I normally sleep with my new babies for the first night
or 2. I didn't realize they were so small when I told you about the feeding
amounts. On ones this small I feel lucky when I get a half ounce down them
every 2 hours at first. I use a pet nurser bottle and the longest
:)
Nancy,
I checked on your web site and it came up site not found. Is this the
correct link?
Liz Radi
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Welcome to the list. You will love having BB sheep! We are in North Central
MO if that helps. We sometimes meet people part way to help on there time
etc. www.freewebs.com/mossyspringranch.com Nancy
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Welcom to the list! I would suggest getting bottle babies that are weaned .
They will cost a little more but they are sure easy handlers normally. If
you don't mind feeding bottles that makes them bond even better to you. The
ram being bottled bothers alot of folks but I have never personally
Could she be constipated? Have you changed the temperature of her milk?
Nancy
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I have
alfalafa / orchard is what we always feed. No problems. Just stinks if it
gets wet and gets flies really going! Nancy
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The vet is closed naturally. We found a 3 day old lamb with a broken leg in
the flat part of the back hip. We have splinted to the best of our ability .
We have given some penn but I think he should have some kind of pain killer
to help reduce any inflamation and keep him a little quite for the
I once had a lamb that way about a week or so old that go hit orsomething .
It couldn't walk but if i put him up he could stand.. I bottle fed him for
several weeks finally he got where he could get himself up and then stand.
Finally to walk a step. He is now a year old. We call him cinnamon.
My thoughts exactly she could just be in pain when he does grab on! Nancy
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My thoughts exactly she could just be in pain when he does grab on! Nancy
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Congratulations! Nancy
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The first of three yearling bottle-ewes who had
I wouldn't think anyqne with a heart could break the leg of a lamb! You
could just catch it and carry it around with you all the time. It will
either take to you or not. I had a lamb break a leg and it didn't make him
any tamer. I kept him in a horse trailor front and fed him everyday for 6
I have a couple of trophy type rams that I will sell this year if there is
anyone out there interested in some new blood.
www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch for info on bloodline and off line
contact info. Thanks For looking Nancy
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We try and save anything that is small. The weather played a large roll in
it this year. We don't have large barns for things to lamb in so if a mom
lambs in a bplace where it was very windy in a hut and the lamb is freezing
faster than she can clean it we bring it in. Also I sell alot of
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We had over 100 babies born. But We used a Racka Ram which through mostly
black sheep. Although I did get some great looking black bellies. My 35
jacobs are in the swing of lambing. about 10 have popped just waiting for
the rest over the next month. The Racka crosses really grow fast. They are
I haven't had this but he sound beautiful! Nancy
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Good morning everyone I have a problem this morning I found where a second
ewe couldn't clean the bag off
I bottle raise quite a few rams. I haven't had one get agressive yet. I
put them in with other rams at about 3 -4 months of age. Or group them all
together. When this happens they tend to go back to their wild state for
the most part. Some remain easy to catch while others wouldn't come near.
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We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want.
We
started with Wingnut bred him to his daughters once. Then took a son
Junior and bred him
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We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want.
We
started
We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want. We
started with Wingnut bred him to his daughters once. Then took a son
Junior and bred him to those first of his dads which were basically his
sisters and then the young ones. We did this twice and then used a son of
his
I do the same with about 150 girls with my ram running year round. If a girl
comes in he will run the babies off. This normally occurs at about 6 weeks.
Good luck Nancy
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Well, I must have the noisy sheep of all. Mine love to talk! my husnband
says it gets so annoying!. If I have a ewe that is given a little extra when
she is alone. she then comes to the fence and cries everytime someone goes
out. She wan't a bottle baby either She now has 6wk old twins and when
I had a ewe that broke her leg just below the knew I couldn't get a splint
on it but penned her in a hut. Fed watered etc for about a month. She did
just fine. It took her a while to trust enough to walk on it but she is up
and running good. She was bred just shortly after I let her out and
For those of you who like to look at photos I have posted a new photo of a
group of our Trophy type rams under our page Rams Galore. They would all
make good herd sires. They all have great temperments as well as horns if
you like the open look. Thanks for looking! Nancy
Peter they may be only lawn mowers but they are cuties! Love those tails!
Blackbellies make great pets especially if bottle raised and/or given alot
of attention and love when small. We raise about 20 or 30 babies of
different breeds on our farm each year and I hate to sell them! But now that
Hello, I bottle raised a jacob with my hair sheep. a couple of months after
weaning I penned her with the jacobs again some he age some ewes. They hated
her! hit her etc. I left her for about a week thinking they would bond
eventually. Nope! Then I put her back with her original buddies. They
Hi ! Had a lady call me that is looking for a small possible bottle baby ewe
in northwest Ark. or Oklahoma. Anyone out there have such a thing? Thanks
Nancy
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Thanks for the update on your lamb she sounds like she is doing really well.
When I wean I generally cut the milk concentrate first along with a little
less the amount per feeding so that they desire to eat more. Then go for the
less time and less milk etc. It normally take me about 3 weeks to
I have a bottle jacob ram lamb it is only the size of a 6 week old but is
almost 3 months. His wool is bad and he is boney. I have wormed him etc. He
is still being bottled because of his bad health. He started getting scours
when he was about 3 weeks old and gets them periodically. They are a
Sorry to hear about the large loss. We don't have a dog either. But find
that fireworks work really well to scare off the coyotes when they start
howling really close. The loud noise bothers them but we have found that
dogs and especially dogs that are used buy hunters and around gun fire are
If she were mine I .would give her Pen g twice a day about 6cc and do it
for 5 days I would also give her probiotics to keep rumen in check but that
would just be for my sheep. and is just my opinion. I would maybe call a vet
to check for sure. Nancy
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Yes, They charge $15 at macon to sell each lamb in their auction.I am only
a little over an hour away so its not to bad for just a couple of days. I
also sell some of my bigger rams there so this is why I get to sell in the
swap bottle babies and they are priced at $125 or so each depending on
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Hello, I know my jacobs are different but I have a question about a sick
lamb perhaps someone may have seen in their balckbellies. He is a bottle
baby first of all. About a month old. The first 2 weeks of his life he ate
like a pig! now for the last 2 weeks I have been lucky to get 5 ounces of
I just want to let everyone know on the list that I will have some ewes
for
sale as well as lambs even a bottle or two I think that are not spoken
for.
Please contact me off list if interested. Also If anyone is in need of a
ram
I have several that I am going to sell. Thanks Nancy
We use regular cattle wire all around but always make sure that when going
to catch work them that we coax them into an area with a cattle panel or
higher fence. we don't seem to have much problem. Although from time to
time a horn will get caught and we will have to get them out. These
I hate to promote a certain brand but I use Kent milk replacer. My lambs do
great! I have 21 now! The only catch is that I mix it at about 20oz of water
instead of 16. This makes it not so rich and give scours or bloat if they
happen to over eat just a little and also pepto will take care of it
I agree with 2 cycles. I have seen ewes bred for 2 days and then not have
lambs until the second cycle time. For some reason sometimes they just don't
settle. Nancy
How long are most folks leaving the ram in with the ewes to make sure
that
they have all (all = 5 to10 ewes in my case) been
I am raising almost a dozen lambs now. Different ages and reasons why. But
some of them only take 4 oz every 4 or 5 hours. And they are a week or more
old. I also dilute my milk a little bit making albout 18 - 20 oz instead of
the 16. This keeps away scours if they do over eat a little. I also
Hello I have a question perhaps someone else will have an answer for. I
found a twin lamb that had been left by mom perhaps 10 hours withought
colostrum. It then drank 4 oz. and will be eating more. Will this lamb have
a chance to make it or do you think it was to late? I never thought to look
the external
anatomy, so most of them don't get or stay bred.
Stephanie
Westminster, SC
On Feb 7, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Nancy Tom Richardson wrote:
Well, heres the story, Last spring I had triplets born, 2 rams and a
ewe so I thought. I bottle fed the ewe. She grew great horns and had
a mane! My husband
(Nancy Tom Richardson)
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The wormer blocks we have here are for cattle. We tried it but they don't
eat enough fast enough for it to do any good. It has safegaurd in it. Nancy
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Some of his lambs are pictured in various ways on our site.
www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch Just give us an email if interested.
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For those of you who looked at the photos I should say that we sold
WingNut at the top of the page about 2 years ago when Junior came along
and was so beautiful. His horns are not quite as open as Wingnuts but if you
notice the horns on his grandson Zaggy are more like his. We have Up and
For those of you who like to look at ram photos I have started posting some
of our photos of rams born this year along with our herd sires. If anyone
is looking for a special color phase please give us a shout. We have over
50 rams born this past spring that we will be selling this upcoming
Good morning I tried the link and put in an extra - inbetween R and docket
and it did not come back . Perhaps this was the problem. I heard it was
extended until Dec 15 with alot of the new comments going to be put on the
desk of the incoming officals. But who know's. Nancy.
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I read this on another site and thought that it might be of interest to some
who have questions about copper in sheep feed. Nancy
http://www.elcascabel.com/copper.htm
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I have several ram lambs born this spring summer that I am looking to sell.
Also I have 2 bottle ewes that I am now feeding that are a little over a
month old. Both of them are for sale. They are kept inside right now so
would need to be aclimatized to your area.
Well, when it comes to talking sheep I thought my were just weird. For the
most part ours only call out to their young lambs. But when it comes to my
bottle babies, the ones who stay really tame. They are something else! I can
call out to them and they will call back and generally start coming
Hello, We use the cydectin for cattle oral it is purple all the time for our
sheep at the same rate. It does work great is and less expensive in the long
run. Also use penn if there is bottle jaw or any sign of stress to help stop
pnuemonia. It seems to creep in and kill fast if they are week
Hello, We use cattle cydectin not sheep. Our vet says that the sheep isn't
strong enough. Use the cattle orally at a rate of 1 cc per 20 pounds. This
give 2 .5 of wormer where the other is only 1 per 11 pounds. It has worked
great for us the past couple of years. - We did use the sheep and
If your feed has whole oats they could be choking on it. We have had them
gobble down feed with alot of oats and the little burr on it sticks in their
throat. They drool and choke and jump. I did loose one young one who foamed
and I couldn't do a thing for it. It got the foam in its lungs and
Hello does anyone know can you apply permithian fly spray directly onto
sheep and lambs? thanks nancy
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Hello, We had a jacob do something simulair last year. Our vet thought it
was like a heat scald like babies get. He lost wool on the back of his hip
and leg. I kept spraying with fly repell spray and gave him some penn for a
couple of days,. It slowly growed back out just fine and you couldn't
Hello. I just recieved this off another list I belong to. thought it may
interst some.
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Good morning, my husband found one of my favorite jacob sheep ewes caught
in a fence this morning. I don't know how long she was there maybe
overnight. She has a wound on her leg just above the ankle area which I put
a little pennicillian on and also sprayed with iodine. I gave her a tetnus
I know that there have been alot of new people join the list and this is
just a note to them: When you bottle feed lambs make sure you use just warm
milk not to hot. The extra warm milk gives babies scours. I sometimes forget
this myself thinking of momma's milk being so warm . Also something
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Thanks for the advice on shots. I usually give 1 cc pen and1/2cc of excenel
once a day and if they are really bad another dose of penn in the evening. I
do this for 3 - 5 days depending on how sick. It normally is a great fix. I
just hate the whole idea of shooting such a little thing. I
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As many of you know we breed for wide open horns. I have posted some more
pictures of some of our rams other sheep for those who like to look. It is
possible to have horns cut or clipped and the ram live. Look at Copperhead
on our BB web page. He broke off his bottom horn off at the skull just
Here in Missouri you can buy salt blocks with sulfer in them. They look
yellow. Some folks say if they eat it it will keep the flys and mosquitos
away. Who Knows about that one. It does take them awhile to get use to
eating it though. Nancy - Mossyspringsranch
Looking for last minute shopping
Yes to Barbs love of her bottle baby.!!! I raise around 25 - 30 babies each
year. Some are blackbelly crosses and some jacobs but all are loveable. Alot
of them go to homes wanting pets etc. The ones we keep are certainly pest
according to my husband. He has trouble feeding since they are
Hello, I don't know much about goats hopefully someone out there will. I
have a pgimy 3 weeks old. He was nursing mom but the last few days been
eating on pellets. During the night I noticed him peeing blood. He is not
nursing and she is large and very uncomfortable. I have forced 1 ounce of
We had about 16 lambs born from the last of August through mid September.
Boy have they grown exceptionally well. I Wish more had been born. Don't
know why more weren't since we run the ram year round but figure more will
start about the time the ice and snow flows with our luck! Truthfully
A couple of years ago we put some rams out on a neighbors pasture and fed
them grain about 2 times a week. they had been wormed. But we lost 3 of
them. They just dropped dead. Figured out it was anemia. They were not
getting enough protein from the grass but yet looked fat and sassy. Perhaps
We are considering buying some land that currently has horses on it. WE do
not vaccinate for blackleg . Can anyone tell me how long we should wait
before putting our sheep on the land or if we have to vaccinate for it? They
will also be using the barn that the horses used. Thanks Nancy
When we trim hooves we pen the rams and catch by the horns like everyone
else. Then my husband picks them up and puts them on their backs between my
legs while I am sitting on the ground and I cradle them between my legs
and hold on to their horns.I talk to them and rub their faces and chin
We run a ram year round and are having some ewes lamb now. We have had
mostly singles in the blackbelly type herd but 2 of our white horned
wiltshires have had twins. But like you all have said they are healthy and
strong but little in size. Nancy - Mossyspringsranch
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007
Hello, We are in the process of updating our site. So when you have time you
may like to take a look. Thanks for looking!
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Hello, We have Black Belly mature rams for sale as breeders or for hunting.
They range in age from 16 months to a little over 2 years.
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:05:06 -0500
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Before I was a Goat Owner by Sarah Haner
Before I was a Goat Owner
I made and ate hot meals.
I
Hello everyone, I have just posted some pictures of some of the rams that we
will have for sale. Some are black bellies, corsicans and black hawiian.
They are all sired by WingNut Sr.and have their horn size listed. We also
have others that are not pictured. They are from 12 months to about 18
Hello, We had an experience last night that I thought I would share. We have
had over 400 babies born since we started raising sheep and never before has
this happened. I saw a jacob new born. but couldn't see its face because
momma was afraid and taking it away. About 3 hours later after dark
This silly goat will just walk up to the post and hit it 3 or 4 times.No
trembling or shaking etc. She is also pretty onry to the other goats. She
won't let them eat anywhere near her or she will hit them. I think she is
just plane mean. Also I still have a few sheep for sale if anyone is
Hello, I don't know if anyone can help with this or not. We have an angora
goat doe. She is well fed, wormed shorn etc. she keeps banging her head on
the post in the barn. We can't figure it out . She has her kid which was
born back in late december and is doing fine. Thanks for your help.
Hello, I have had a new born Jacob who won't lower his back legs . He wants
to keep them drawn up . Any ideas? I have had 2 others born that couldn't
stand. The legs would fold under at the first joint. Like they were weak.
they never got any stronger. Each of these lambs were born with soft
I forgot to mention that we are considering going to the exotic sale in
Fruitland MO . (Southeast Corner). If anyone is intereseted in a bottle baby
corsican lamb I have a couple of rams left from Wing Nut Sr. and some rams
and ewes from Jr his son. Nancy - www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch -
I am considering going to the Fruitland MO exotic sale this coming friday.
If anyone is interested in bottle babies I have a ram that is now 6 months
old that was sired by Wing nut and I have several ewes and rams that are
corsicans that were sired by wingnut Jr.(He is a black belly ) Pictures
Thanks for the info on goat kids. I was lucky and the momma took her back! I
am now rearing 13 lambs in the house and another 5 outside and really didn't
need another. Hopefully my Jacobs will be better mothers as first timers so
I don't get many more. Thanks again Nancy
Hello, I may have a baby goat kid that I have to bottle can anyone tell me
if I can use lamb milk replacer or do I need special milk?I have never
raised a goat before. Thanks Nancy
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I read somewhere that a lamb can't live on hay and grain alone until 10
weeks of age. But I have had a lamb or two that wouldn't drink much milk
from a bottle and the only problem I have found is that they just don't grow
very well. They tend to get the scoots and need pepto because the grain
Hello, This is a quick note to let everyone know that is thinking of
reserving lambs with us that as of Feb. 15th the cost of lambs will be going
up do to the increased cost of hay and grain. People here are asking 4.75 to
$6 a bale for alfalfa and corn at the local MFA store is now $5 a bushel
I put out baking soda for our sheep all the time. They seem to love the
taste. Nancy @ mossysprings
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Oneta, Glad Bailey is doing well. The sheep are always teaching us
something. One person told us sheep are just looking for a reason to die.
But yet it seems like if they want to be they are tough as old boots. We
had a wool ewe tear a chunk out of her side thumb nail size. The vet said
never
What we call corsicans are anything with a yellow belly. We have black
bellies, frosty backed blackbellies , and yellow bellies. They could have a
black belly mom and yellow dad or be a yellow mom yellow dad and still
throw a black belly baby. You never know what you will get . Just my 2
Hello, I hope everyone in the midwest is all safe and sound. Our sheep woke
up the other morning to 14 of snow that they didn't know what to do with.
They were afraid to go out in it! Any way just wanted to let everyone know
we still have several almost 1 year old rams available to become herd
Hello everyone. I have my first set of bottle lambs for this fall. They were
born on October 13th (Friday!) They spent their first week with mom. But
they were small and it turned very wet cold. They were not doing well with
this first time mom so I brought both in. They are Jack Jill. Sired
If any of you have been trying to contact me about Wingnut Babies please try
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our computor something was placed in the email that gave out the wrong
return address at times. I didn't know this until someone who had tried
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