Jan Coffey wrote:
That's weird..using Hindi at work I mean. Your company did
land up with
a lot of impolite jerks.
It's common practice. I am not talking about just one company here.
It is still weird, especially since Hindi isn't the language in which
this work is done here in India.
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
You should never make such assumptions. I do not make typographical
errors. I
make spelling errors becouse I am Dyslexic. This topic has been beat to
death
but if you want to learn more about dyslexia or why spell checkers
--- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
I was angry becouse as more and more H1's were at work the
culture shifted to
be ~their~ culture. It became difficult to get anything done
at work in
English, and although I do speak a bit of Chinese, it's not
enough to get
--- Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just my point.
Historically, upper-echelon IT workers have been very liberterian and
anti-union.
Serves 'em right.
Well with all the laws the way they are, and with section 7 being practicaly
ignored maybe it isn't about the polotics of
Trent wrote:
Historically, upper-echelon IT workers have been very liberterian and
anti-union.
The two don't have to be mutually exclusive, of course. One can be both
libertarian and pro-union. Unions can be (and have been) a great tool for
preserving and promoting the rights of individuals
Jan Coffey wrote:
I was once reprimanded for stacking books on the ground to be able
to reach a mouse on a high shelf. It seams that stepping on a book is somehow
taboo in the Indean culture. I was told that I was being offensive and
recieved a reprimand which excluded me from promotion. FOR
On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 06:46 America/New_York, The Fool wrote:
From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah?
So join a union or quit whining.
Where are these so-called IT unions. I haven't seen one.
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--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
I was once reprimanded for stacking books on the ground to be able
to reach a mouse on a high shelf. It seams that stepping on a book is
somehow
taboo in the Indean culture. I was told that I was being offensive and
From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah?
So join a union or quit whining.
Where are these so-called IT unions. I haven't seen one.
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Jan Coffey wrote:
I was angry becouse as more and more H1's were at work the
culture shifted to
be ~their~ culture. It became difficult to get anything done
at work in
English, and although I do speak a bit of Chinese, it's not
enough to get by
at work, and I know only a couple of
Trent Shipley wrote:
Yeah?
So join a union or quit whining.
Have computer programmers unionized anywhere? Or IT workers? I'm
curious (and interested).
Julia
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Julia Thompson wrote:
Trent Shipley wrote:
Yeah?
So join a union or quit whining.
I believe he is insinuating that IT professionals, among others,
_should_ unionize to protect themselves from this kind of stuff.
Doug
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Just my point.
Historically, upper-echelon IT workers have been very liberterian and
anti-union.
Serves 'em right.
(telecom workers are another matter)
On Sunday 2003-09-14 03:46, The Fool wrote:
From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah?
So join a union or quit whining.
Trent Shipley wrote:
Just my point.
Historically, upper-echelon IT workers have been very liberterian and
anti-union.
Serves 'em right.
(telecom workers are another matter)
Can you elaborate on your statement about telecom workers?
Julia
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: No Americans Need Apply
Trent Shipley wrote:
Just my point.
Historically, upper-echelon IT workers have been very
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
[[BTW: you were so angry when you replied that it
showed in many typographical errors...]]
You should never make such assumptions. I do not make typographical errors. I
make spelling errors becouse I am Dyslexic. This
Yeah?
So join a union or quit whining.
On Saturday 2003-09-13 11:47, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
[[BTW: you were so angry when you replied that it
showed in many typographical errors...]]
You should never make such assumptions. I
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And there are 7 or 8 year old kids in south american
countries that are happy
to make tennis shoes for a $1 a day, but that
doesn't make it right.
_
Jan William Coffey
Well, it might. Are
The Fool forwarded:
Daniel Soong, who lost his programming job to Indian offshore
companies,
is willing to relocate to India. But Indian officials have
told him they
don't hire Americans.
This is weird. Afaik, there are no laws in place prohibiting foreign
nationals from working in Inda
Jan Coffey wrote:
Ok fine if that's the way you want it, but that means that
any American
should have just as much opertunity to work in Indea as
Ineans do to work
here, shouldn't it?
But that *is* the case. Afaik, anyway. This is the first time I have
heard of anybody saying that
Jan Coffey wrote:
[[BTW: you were so angry when you replied that it
showed in many typographical errors...]]
A few years ago software engeneer was begingin to become
as prestegious a job as doctor or lawyer.
This is the situation here in Brazil - all three professions, when
exercised
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 03:02:49PM -, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
I would ask to be fired. Wait a minute! Wrong time tense! I did it,
two weeks ago.
Alberto, you asked to be fired? What do you mean? Someone was willing
to do your job for less, so you told your boss to fire you?
I would have
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
I can't say about the USA, but here in Brazil the only professions
that seem to have any perspective of success are drug dealers
and tax collectors. The tax collectors will extort money from the
drug dealers, and the drug dealers will sell drugs to the tax
collectors.
At 12:37 PM 9/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
I can't say about the USA, but here in Brazil the only professions
that seem to have any perspective of success are drug dealers
and tax collectors. The tax collectors will extort money from the
drug dealers, and the drug dealers
Kevin Tarr wrote:
At 12:37 PM 9/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
I can't say about the USA, but here in Brazil the only professions
that seem to have any perspective of success are drug dealers
and tax collectors. The tax collectors will extort money from the
Erik Reuter asked:
I would ask to be fired. Wait a minute! Wrong time tense! I did it,
two weeks ago.
Alberto, you asked to be fired? What do you mean? Someone was willing
to do your job for less, so you told your boss to fire you?
Making a long story short: 9 month's ago my boss's boss
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
A few years ago software engeneer was begingin to
become as prestegious a job as doctor or lawyer.
This is the situation here in Brazil - all three
professions, when
exercised honestly, have ***no*** prestige.
snip
grimace
It would be really interesting to work in Bangalore, he says. But I
was told, 'Daniel, it is against the law for you to work here. You can
come here on vacation, but you can't work here.'
It sounds fair to me. The USA has put a lot of weird laws to
prevent dangerous aliens to work in the USA,
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be really interesting to work in Bangalore, he says. But I
was told, 'Daniel, it is against the law for you to work here. You can
come here on vacation, but you can't work here.'
It sounds fair to me. The USA has put a lot of weird
What is your point?
That is economics, supply and demand.
You can try to do something about it, but in the end it will only make things
worse.
The real answer is a global market in labor. Nations and patriotism are evil
things.
On Thursday 2003-09-11 21:59, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Alberto
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ad if that isn't enough think of those poor Indeans,
not only the ones here
who are literaly forced to work 80 hour weeks for
1/3 what they are worth,
but what of those in Bangalore who LIVE in front of
a monitor for pennies? If
this isn't slave labor
--- Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is your point?
That is economics, supply and demand.
You can try to do something about it, but in the end it will only make
things
worse.
The real answer is a global market in labor. Nations and patriotism are
evil
things.
Ok fine
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ad if that isn't enough think of those poor Indeans,
not only the ones here
who are literaly forced to work 80 hour weeks for
1/3 what they are worth,
but what of those in Bangalore who LIVE in front of
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