[ccp4bb] ROSETTA for MR model generation

2010-08-25 Thread Kornelius Zeth
Dear all, I was wondering if anybody has used the ROSETTA software to generate a MR model that could subsequently being used successfully for a MR solution case. The sequence of the protein we work with is relatively small, ~ 85 residues. Crystallization is not very reproducible. Resolution

Re: [ccp4bb] ROSETTA for MR model generation

2010-08-25 Thread Francois Berenger
Hello, I know at least the following papers on this topic: --- High resolution protein structure prediction and the crystallographic phase problem http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2504711/ Prospects for de novo phasing with de novo protein models

Re: [ccp4bb] ROSETTA for MR model generation

2010-08-25 Thread Eike Schulz
Hello Kornelius, In 2 or 3 cases I successfully used a homology model for molecular replacement using a model generated from the PHYRE server http://www.sbg.bio.ic.ac.uk/~phyre/. I know it is not the same as ROSETTA but if there is some sequence homology you might be lucky... Best regards Eike

[ccp4bb] NAD cif in Jligand

2010-08-25 Thread Stefan Gerhardt
Dear all, I'm trying using Jligand for generating a new ligand describition. Have to say I'm using it for the first time, but so far it look very nice. I trying to optimize a new lib file for a modified NAD molecule. I'm using a nad_ebi.cif file of NAD supplied by Garib a while ago which works

Re: [ccp4bb] turn granular to crystal

2010-08-25 Thread yybbll
Hi, Did you use detergent? It seems look like detergent crystals. 2010-08-25 yybbll 发件人: rui 发送时间: 2010-08-25 20:37:18 收件人: CCP4BB 抄送: 主题: [ccp4bb] turn granular to crystal Hi, All, I'm trying to crystallize a soluble protein and got something like granular, they are rounded

Re: [ccp4bb] ROSETTA for MR model generation

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Grey
Hi Kornelius, A possible solution at this resolution would be to use Arcimboldo which localizes model fragments such as small helices with Phaser and then does density modification with SHELXE. See: Nature Methods 6:651-3. Crystallographic ab initio protein structure solution below atomic

[ccp4bb] Crystallization of low solubility proteins from glycerol-containing solutions

2010-08-25 Thread Roger Rowlett
Does anyone have practical experience crystallizing low solubility proteins from solutions containing significant (10-20%) glycerol? We can get small crystals by mixing 4:1 ratios of protein to well solution, but the drops do not concentrate back to the well

Re: [ccp4bb] turn granular to crystal

2010-08-25 Thread Roger Rowlett
I would try the following approach, some of which you may have done already: Broad pH screen, by 0.5 pH units to see if you are in the pH sweet spot. Finer PEG-4000 screen at the pH identified in the pH screen--the precipitate in the

[ccp4bb] EMBL Interdisciplinary Postdocs

2010-08-25 Thread Victor Lamzin
Dear All, We have an opening for a postdoctoral position within the EMBL interdisciplinary postdocs initiative (EIPOD). The project on 'Combined computational methods for macromolecules' aims at interpretation of macromolecular crystallography data at a resolution from 4 to 10 A, making use

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of low solubility proteins from glycerol-containing solutions

2010-08-25 Thread Mark Del Campo
Hi Roger, I crystallized a protein that started in solution with 250 mM NaCl, 50% glycerol, and 50 mM Arg+Glu. I initially used traditional microbatch under paraffin oil to get crystallization hits (where protein and screen are 1:1; glycerol ends up at 25%). Then, I found that setting up

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of low solubility proteins from glycerol-containing solutions

2010-08-25 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Roger, Since you already have initial crystallisation conditions and crystals you could try dialysis buttons to further reduce the glycerol content (and hence get bigger crystals). They are available e.g. from Hampton, the minimum volume is 5 mul and I find they require a little skill to set

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of low solubility proteins from glycerol-containing solutions

2010-08-25 Thread Jim Pflugrath
Have you tried to use glycerol or ethylene glycol as the precipitant? What happens when you go to 50% or higher concentrations? _ From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Roger Rowlett Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:19 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

[ccp4bb] Faculty position in Structural Biology at UT Southwestern Medical Center

2010-08-25 Thread Diana Tomchick
The Structural Biology Laboratory at UT Southwestern Medical Center currently has an opening at the Research Assistant Professor level for a highly motivated individual who enjoys working in a collaborative, multi-disciplinary setting. A Ph.D. in biochemistry, chemistry, physics or a

[ccp4bb] problems loading electron density

2010-08-25 Thread Rakesh Joshi
Hi all, I am having problems opening an electron density map on chimera as well as in pymol( tried mtz and xplor formats). Chimera gives a error in line 2 ANOMalous=false message or bad MRC grid size message,where as pymol just gives a error reading map message. Any help will be

Re: [ccp4bb] problems loading electron density

2010-08-25 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Rakesh, at least for pymol you have to convert the mtz-file into a ccp4-map. The program 'fft' does this from the ccp4i. Give the output file the name extension .ccp4, than it's recognised by the default filter in pymol. Tim On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:56:17AM -0400, Rakesh Joshi wrote: Hi

[ccp4bb] LIGPLOT or similar

2010-08-25 Thread Mark J van Raaij
Dear All, Having just installed LIGPLOT under Windows, I find it rather convoluted to run. It has to be run via de command line window, and I try to avoid Windows as much as I can anyway. I also tried to install the Unix version on MacOSX, but was not able to get it running properly, probably

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of low solubility proteins from glycerol-containing solutions

2010-08-25 Thread Tom Walter
Dear Roger, We have had success using the non-detergent sulphobetaines (NDSBs) to improve solubility of protein samples. For a couple of projects they have proved crucial for concentrating the protein to a reasonable level for crystallization (e.g. PMID: 18765907). Be careful since there is a

Re: [ccp4bb] LIGPLOT or similar

2010-08-25 Thread Christian Roth
Hi Mark, MOE from ChempComp does something similar, but I think it is not for free. Regards Christian Am Mittwoch 25 August 2010 19:51:08 schrieben Sie: Dear All, Having just installed LIGPLOT under Windows, I find it rather convoluted to run. It has to be run via de command line

Re: [ccp4bb] LIGPLOT or similar

2010-08-25 Thread Tim Gruene
Hello Mark, if you would describe the error message you get from the UNIX version of LIGPLOT, someone on the list might be able to help you while you have to wait for and apple installer version or the (commercial) alternatives. Looking at the pictures about ligplot I found on the web and

Re: [ccp4bb] LIGPLOT or similar

2010-08-25 Thread Javier Gonzalez
Mark, you might want to try PDBsum (http://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbsum/), it will generate a LIGPLOT output for a given PDB code entered, which can be downloaded as high resolution .pdf or .ps Best, Javier On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: Hello Mark, if

[ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Hi there: As I understand, phenix.refine do real-space refinement locally (by DiffMap), but from the documentation, I didn't find the keywords to specify the residue range to be refined. Thanks for any help! Best Regards, Hailiang

Re: [ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Hailiang, phenix.refine does local real-space refinement indeed. Here are the details about the algorithm: http://cci.lbl.gov/~afonine/rsr.pdf Slide #10 shows how to use it. Although it works fine in its present shape, there are still some things that need to be improved and some

Re: [ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread George M. Sheldrick
I would like to propose that we rename this list to the Phenix (and CCP4) Bulletin Board. What have people got against sending purely Phenix questions to the Phenix list? George PS. Since there is no SHELX list, if you have a specifically SHELX question you should just email me directly, as in

Re: [ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread Pavel Afonine
On 8/25/10 2:11 PM, George M. Sheldrick wrote: I would like to propose that we rename this list to the Phenix (and CCP4) Bulletin Board. Sounds too Russian: after collapse of USSR many street names in Moscow, as well as metro station names, were renamed back to their original names they had

Re: [ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Just realized there is a seperate phenix bb. Sorry guy... I would like to propose that we rename this list to the Phenix (and CCP4) Bulletin Board. What have people got against sending purely Phenix questions to the Phenix list? George PS. Since there is no SHELX list, if you have a

[ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-25 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Hi, Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified? By the way, I have registered phenix bb. Just didn't realize this before, sorry again. Best Regards, Hailiang

Re: [ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread Garib Murshudov
Are you suggesting ccp4 is collapsing and people are coming back to the original source? Garib On 25 Aug 2010, at 22:17, Pavel Afonine wrote: On 8/25/10 2:11 PM, George M. Sheldrick wrote: I would like to propose that we rename this list to the Phenix (and CCP4) Bulletin Board. Sounds

Re: [ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hey Garib, LOL... no of course, I was just saying that I'm a bit allergic to re-naming well established things, and some other people may be too -:) Why don't we rename you Mr. Refmac -:) ? Pavel. On 8/25/10 2:25 PM, Garib Murshudov wrote: Are you suggesting ccp4 is collapsing and people

Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-25 Thread Garib Murshudov
Why you do not use coot? It does exactly what you want. regards Garib On 25 Aug 2010, at 22:33, Hailiang Zhang wrote: Hi, Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified? By the way, I have registered phenix bb. Just didn't

[ccp4bb] homology modeling

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Kraft
Hello, I've been using an the on-line homology modeling program Jigsaw-3D, and would like to run it on my own Linux box, but it requires CHARM, which I am unvailable to get because I am currently looking for a faculty position... does anyone know of an open source energy minimization program

Re: [ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread Gerard Bricogne
On 25 Aug 2010, at 22:17, Pavel Afonine wrote: On 8/25/10 2:11 PM, George M. Sheldrick wrote: I would like to propose that we rename this list to the Phenix (and CCP4) Bulletin Board. Sounds too Russian: after collapse of USSR many street names in Moscow, as well as metro station names,

Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-25 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Hi Garib: Actually I tried coot real space refine zone, but the model seems not sliding into the best density map (I also tried dragging it around, but still not working fine). Then I found some comments saying minimizing the difference between 2mFo-DFc and Fc may be better, thats why I am asking

Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-25 Thread Hailiang Zhang
I mean the density of 2mFo-DFc or Fc maps. On Wednesday 25 August 2010 03:13:53 pm Hailiang Zhang wrote: Hi Garib: Actually I tried coot real space refine zone, but the model seems not sliding into the best density map (I also tried dragging it around, but still not working fine). Then I

Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-25 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Wednesday 25 August 2010 03:19:53 pm zhan...@umbc.edu wrote: I mean the density of 2mFo-DFc or Fc maps. I still don't understand. Real space refinement will minimize a fit of model to density in whatever map you give it. It's up to you which coefficients are used to calculate the map you

Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-25 Thread Pavel Afonine
Ethan, I still don't understand. Real space refinement will minimize a fit of model to density in whatever map you give it. It's up to you which coefficients are used to calculate the map you are refining against. This is true. However, I guess, the way it is implemented in Coot is a bit

Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-25 Thread Garib Murshudov
I think Paul (Emsley) is better qualified to answer to this question. However 1) coot uses 2mFo-DFc maps 2) you should be able to feed any map you want to coot so it is nice place for experimenting this kind of calculation 3) You may try to relax gemetry 4) Usually if the model does not

Re: [ccp4bb] (non-crystallographic content ALERT)

2010-08-25 Thread Ed Pozharski
I don't see what George's attempt to point out that pure-phenix questions should be asked in phenix bb (and the point itself may be subject to different opinions) has to do with renaming Moscow streets and subway stations (unless you thought that the proposition to rename ccp4bb is serious).

Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-25 Thread Garib Murshudov
But equation given in slide #4 is exactly least-square equation with some modified maps. Just use Pareval's theorem, then for case of 2mFo- Dfc you will have sum_{reflection used) (2mFo-DF_{c current) -k F_{model})^2 F_model is equal to F_{c current} at the point of calculation. All

Re: [ccp4bb] (non-crystallographic content ALERT)

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Adams
While I have as keen an interest in Russian history as the next person, I personally feel that this thread has travelled far enough from CCP4 and crystallography to warrant moving any further discussion in this vein to another forum. On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Ed Pozharski wrote: I

Re: [ccp4bb] Local real-space refinement by phenix

2010-08-25 Thread James Stroud
The fault is entirely with those who respond to phenix questions. You can't blame the askers for guessing that CCP4BB will get a better response. I call this The Republican Fallacy. This fallacy is predicated on the assumption that it is easier to modify behavior than it is to modify the