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Moshe Piekarski writes:
> On 4/10/19 7:50 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > * If the formulation “please do foo” is an enforcible *condition* on the
> > grant, then there are several such enforcible conditions that make
> > this work non-free:
> Given that the wordplay packa
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uld be less concerned about adding years to life, and |
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e's tools is an essential ingredient of |
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Jens Axboe writes:
> On 2/11/19 11:27 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > If, on the other hand, the file is to be free software, there would need
> > to be a clear grant of some free software license to that work.
>
> FWIW, fio.c includes the following mention:
>
> * The lic
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ll came always |
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ll came always |
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figure out how to use my telephone.” —Bjarne Stroustrup |
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to-be-effective free license
already used for many existing software works.
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ttends any journey is: how did the |
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e is the text granting specific license in that work?
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gree of |
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book, it's like the author is right |
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ur endeavour is not here in this forum; it is with the
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data – which would be
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Ben Finney <bign...@debian.org> writes:
> To the extent that text is derived from the GNU LGPL, it is a copyright
> violation:
I didn't explain well enough why I was including some of the text.
This is from the GNU LGPL v2.1:
> Copyright (C) 1991, 1999 Free Software
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Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> Ben Finney writes ("Re: Bug#874295: Not a bug"):
> > (Yes, I think a web browser should not download and execute
> > arbitrary JavaScript either. That one problem remains unaddressed is
> > not a justifi
_Collected Works_, 1913 |
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Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> Ben Finney writes ("Re: French gov open license"):
> > More precisely, “pass DFSG” is not something we can ask of licenses.
> > Rather, the DFSG are for evaluating a *work* proposed for entry to
> > Debia
a work proposed for entry
into Debian.
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edged to result in a free
work. This would remove the doubts raised by the current unclear
wording.
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o has asked
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erty of any kind is lost all at once.” |
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nal conditions. What is Alex's position on that?
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easy to use as |
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is a form of abuse, |
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build a work, it must not use (or derive from) those non-free parts in
any source or binary package.
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fic to that work.
e.g. “License: CISCO-CSA”.
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Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> Ben Finney writes ("Re: unknown license for package/debian/* in d/copyright
> in adopted package"):
> > Are there messages in that file that could be removed? I typically
> > try to get a single
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m, this clause
appears to me to be no problem for the DFSG.
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ense conditions recipients receive.
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Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> Ben Finney writes ("Re: unknown license for package/debian/* in d/copyright
> in adopted package"):
> > The principle is to consider what a hypothetical future package
> > maintainer, or FTP master or reci
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Francesco Poli <invernom...@paranoici.org> writes:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:07:09 +1100 Ben Finney wrote:
>
> [...]
> > I believe there are actively-enforced patents on DVD-CSS that
> > prohibit distribution of, for example, free software that opens
> >
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able at all by the Debian
Project.
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Charles Plessy <ple...@debian.org> writes:
> Le Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:21:37AM +1100, Ben Finney a écrit :
> > Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> >
> > > I'm afraid you'll have to go back to the authors/copyrightholders
&
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ion without paying for it.” —Oscar Wilde, _De |
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dgement comes from experience. Experience comes from |
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all evidence that you are ignorant.” —Shaun Mason |
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estion
being asked of us here?
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te source of the work online?
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the term “object-oriented”, and I can tell |
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g reasons are presented for *everyone
else* to consider those answers sufficient?
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To The Galaxy_, Douglas |
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e contradicts itself — no actually it doesn't.” |
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lieve me?” —Jack Handey |
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tiplications at |
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of choice for the internet |
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prisingly
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Mattia Rizzolo <mat...@debian.org> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 06:10:57AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > This issue should be resolved by the upstream distributor, as I
> > agree with you that they are not compliant with the conditions of
> > the license. You may w
Mattia Rizzolo <mat...@debian.org> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 07:52:18AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Mattia Rizzolo <mat...@debian.org> writes:
> >
> > > What I'm saying is that IMHO the only license requirement (the
> > > second paragraph o
`\ your right to say it.” —Evelyn Beatrice Hall, _The Friends of |
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derstand.” —Richard P. |
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onditions in a work.
In short: this does not IMO disqualify the work from conforming to the
DFSG.
Thank you for taking software freedom seriously for Debian recipients.
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