Re: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Bennie
My main problem here is... I don't subscribe to the Imail Message Group. I had no idea this was coming. We just upgraded our Imail SA last month. I can't remember what the original cost of the IMail Server with Unlimited was, but I don't believe it was 8,999.00. For a small ISP that is a

Fwd: Re: [Declude.Virus] [Declude.JunkMail] Solution to death of IMail

2004-10-26 Thread marc
scott, it is never too late and i think your are right with the 90% of your customers. marc At 13:09 26.10.2004, you wrote: [Replying to several posts here] Here's a thought - what about a Declude mail server? It sounds like a great idea, but it would also be a huge undertaking. By the

Re: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Darin Cox
The good news is that I just saved myself the money by switching to GEICO? Sorry, couldn't resist. The IPswitch situation is just getting pretty humorous... Fortunatelymost of us willhave from 1-2 years before having to replace IMail. Big question is what do companies likeCH do that

RE: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread John Carter
Having started this thread, I now feel that maybe it was too quick to expect anything from Declude other than a We are reviewing the situation will get back too you soon. It has been only 24 hours. A thought-out response is better than a quick, off the top of the head one. Technically the

RE: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Ncl Admin
Why bother. Imail is a product of the past. Time to move on. At 10:48 AM 10/26/2004 -0400, you wrote: Everyone  who still wants to use imail  should call the sales dept [(800) 793-4825] and lodge a complaint (politely). The girl I spoke to at least seemed to listen. Robert

Re: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Jim Matuska
From what I have seen on Ipswich's site as well as on this thread it sounds as though if you are running Imail 8.x (or any other version) and do not pay to upgrade to the new collaboration suite you will receive absolutely no support after your current service agreement expires. Has anyone had

RE: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Robert Shubert
You can not purchase anything to do with Imail at this point. Nothing. I currently have 8.0 because my SA ran out. I was going to renew it next month, heck I'll do it today. All I want right now is 8.1 and any bug fixes to it for the next 12 months. And they can have my $500 for that. That

RE: [Declude.Virus] What is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Barry Simpson
By now most of you will have seen the recent announcement by Ipswitch of their product repackaging. Like you, we are disappointed by their decision to effectively impose a price increase to their base product offerings and to burden existing and future customers who appreciate the

Re: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Jim Matuska
I 100% agree, we have less than a week left on our service agreement, before it expires I will have to make a recommendation to my boss that will likely be one of the following: Option 1: Give in to Imail's new scheme and pay to upgrade to the Imail Collaboration Suite Option 2: Switch to

[Declude.Virus] Fw: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status

2004-10-26 Thread Jim Matuska
FYI, For everyone wanting to renew their old Imail service agreement, if you already have a quote for the renewal Ipswitch will honor, not sure if this is a great idea considering the product is end of life, but a lot cheaper than upgrading if you want to just gain a little time to be able to

Re: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Serge
Or: Option 4: stay with Imail 8.05 or 8.13 , with declude antivirus and antispam. For now, it is working fine for us we will evaluate mdaemon and other product, but we will not switch now There are people still using Imail 6.0x I'm sure we can use the current code for at least a couple of years

Re: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status

2004-10-26 Thread Ncl Admin
Just about as easy to not renew. Considering the about of bug fixes that they normally send out, and with a new product I would think that would go down considerably. Easier to buy a few other products with the savings. In fact there are some pretty exciting ones out there. At 10:56 AM

RE: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Mark E. Smith
I called Ipswitch this morning. After I let them have it they said that we could continue with our subscription and they would offer hotfixes and support. Considering I don't need a support agreement to get hotfixes in the current release and I never call tech support, I'm not going to renew.

[Declude.Virus] New platform

2004-10-26 Thread Don Duffy
Sounds like there is some time that would give Scott and Co. time to deveope their own mail server software. If it was as good as the other Declude products, it would certainly be a winner. Just a thought! - Don Duffy Manager, Technical Services Office 330-684-5103 Fax 330-684-5122

re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status

2004-10-26 Thread John David M . Miller
Not sure if I missed a posting on this so, I recently attended an IPswitch seminar on ICS and ISPs can continue to purchase IMail as a standalone product. Sincerely, John David M. Miller SAMnet 2785 Boston Road Wilbraham MA, 01095 Tel: (413) 596-2050 Fax: (413) 599-1771

RE: re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Schmidt
Yes, at $6,000 per year (or something like that) plus they force the Symantec Anti-Virus on you (to justify the increase.) Forget about it. Best Regards Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John David M. Miller Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Matt Robertson
The part where it isn't an overreaction is for folks who are actively buying new products. I've got one purchase certain within the next several days and another likely in the next 60. I figure that barring any catastrophic exploits showing up that Ipswitch won't patch, I've got a year or two

RE: re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status

2004-10-26 Thread Troy D. Hilton
Do you have documentation to this affect or a link to a webpage stating this? Not that I doubt you, I'm looking for more info . Troy D. Hilton SofWerks LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Not sure if I missed a posting on this so, I recently attended an IPswitch seminar on

Re: [Declude.Virus] Scott, what is our future?

2004-10-26 Thread Ncl Admin
Anyone got any opinions on MailEnable? Their pricing looks good and so does the product. I've been leaning way over in the direction of Merak but this makes me real curious. Anyone run it under load? No load but I installed it on my backup server in place of MS STMP and it seems to work. I

RE: re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status

2004-10-26 Thread John Tolmachoff (Lists)
Not sure if I missed a posting on this so, I recently attended an IPswitch seminar on ICS and ISPs can continue to purchase IMail as a standalone product. Sincerely, John David M. Miller As of yesterday, incorrect. More to come later on my report to the Imail list. John Tolmachoff