Re: Blocker/Critical issues update

2006-02-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have tried to ping Scott privately on the email address linked to his name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. The mail was undeliverable. At the risk of incurring my peers' censure, I will page him in the subject line of an email message. I do think this is an important enhancement

paging Scott MacDonald re DERBY-396

2006-02-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Scott, Please forgive me for putting you on the spot by paging you in the subject line of this message. I have tried to privately ping your JIRA email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), but the mail bounced back. You graciously volunteered to work on DERBY-396. The

Re: paging Scott MacDonald re DERBY-396

2006-02-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Darcy, Thanks for this update. I will unassign DERBY-396. I will happily to mouse into DERBY-396 any information you think is worth forwarding. Regards, -Rick Darcy Benoit wrote: Rick, Scott was one of my students, and he was working on DERBY-396. He has since graduated and moved

10.2 release contents

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Andrew, I heard a vague rumor that the 10.2 distributions would look different than the 10.1 distributions available at http://db.apache.org/derby/releases/release-10.1.2.1.cgi. Have you heard this rumor and if so can you elaborate? Thanks, -Rick

Re: 10.2 release contents

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Andrew. What new items are we likely to see inside the distributions? Cheers, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, I heard a vague rumor that the 10.2 distributions would look different than the 10.1 distributions available

Re: Security manager problems with Class.forName()

2006-03-02 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Kristian, ... I just looked at the patch quickly, and it solves the problem in the same way I was thinking about. I will try it out. Any specific reason why the patch is not attached to DERBY-623 in Jira? Two lazy reasons: 1) The JIRA itself doesn't have a test case. The problem only

JDBC4 Spec exegesis needed, was: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-925) Implement new JDBC 4 metadata API getFunctionParameters()

2006-03-03 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Lance, Is it OK for a JDBC3 implementation to return more information than the spec demands? In particular, consider the various result sets returned by DatabaseMetaData calls. Is it OK for these result sets to contain additional, trailing columns, above and beyond the columns required by

JUnit-izing tests, was: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-925) Implement new JDBC 4 metadata API getFunctionParameters()

2006-03-03 Thread Rick Hillegas
Someday, we may start converting legacy tests to an assertion-based model. When we do that, I recommend starting with these tests which have generated a spray of different canons for different platforms. Regards, -Rick Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA) wrote: [

[Fwd: Generating user docs]

2006-03-06 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Andrew, Running -verbose, I see the following error. For the record, I'm running on cygwin/xp with Ant 1.6.5. Thanks for your advice-Rick dita.fo2pdf: [fop] [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as SAX2 Parser [fop] [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as

Re: [Fwd: Generating user docs]

2006-03-06 Thread Rick Hillegas
getting Service Temporarily Unavailable errors when I try to open a new JIRA. I think this bug masks quirks. Regards, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 3/6/06, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /snip [fop] [INFO] [10] [fop] [ERROR] Error while creating area : Error while

Soft Upgrade question

2006-03-16 Thread Rick Hillegas
When I run a 10.2 server (built from the mainline) and try to connect to a 10.1 database, I get the following error: ERROR XJ040: Failed to start database 'testdb10.1', see the next exception for details. ERROR XCW00: Unsupported upgrade from '10.1' to '10.2 beta'. Does this mean that soft

Upgrade testing

2006-03-17 Thread Rick Hillegas
Can someone point me at a primer which describes how developers test soft and hard upgrade? There is some customer-oriented discussion of upgrade in the Developer's Guide and on the Wiki (at http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UpgradingTen). But I can't find any pointers on the testing web page

Re: Signal to noise on derby-dev

2006-03-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
I would be surprised if the subject lines of these granular JIRAs made their way into the Release Notes. We subdivide tasks into bite-sized JIRAs to help developers and reviewers digest large features. I think we'll just confuse our customers if we expose this detail of our development

Re: [jira] Closed: (DERBY-1128) jdbc4/TestDbMetaData.java fails because of changes in SQLException text

2006-03-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Knut Anders, Thanks for cleaning up this regression. Cheers, -Rick Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA) wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1128?page=all ] Knut Anders Hatlen closed DERBY-1128: - Resolution: Fixed Committed revision

Re: Signal to noise on derby-dev

2006-03-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
manager's job! Regards, -Rick Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: I would be surprised if the subject lines of these granular JIRAs made their way into the Release Notes. We subdivide tasks into bite-sized JIRAs to help developers and reviewers digest large features. I think we'll

Soft Upgrade and Downgrade

2006-03-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
I'm looking for an explanation of how Soft Upgrade is supposed to work, from the customer's perspective and from the developer's perspective. I suppose that this also entails an explanation of the inverse operation, Soft Downgrade. I can't find this explanation. My naive understanding of soft

Re: Unique constraints and null

2006-03-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Øyvind, Welcome back! Delighted to see you have not escaped our gravitational pull! Personally, I don't have any strong feelings about this JIRA, but it is grounded in the real customer experience of Dan Meany. For the record, the relevant section of the SQL 2003 spec is Part 2, section

Re: svn commit: r387640 - in /db/derby/code/trunk/java/testing: ./ org/apache/derbyTesting/functionTests/master/ org/apache/derbyTesting/functionTests/suites/ org/apache/derbyTesting/functionTests/tes

2006-03-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi David, A couple responses follow. Cheers-Rick David W. Van Couvering wrote: Hi, Rick, this looks great, thanks for this work! A couple of questions: - Is there any reason these weren't written as JUnit tests? I suspect the answer is (a) they were originally written before the JUnit

Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1133) Split jdbc4 tests so that the suite can be run independently under the embedded and DerbyNetClients like other Derby test suites

2006-03-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1133 Project: Derby Type: Improvement Components: Test Versions: 10.2.0.0 Reporter: Rick Hillegas Assignee: Rick Hillegas Attachments: bug1133.diff, bug1133_rev2.diff Right now the jdbc4 suite runs under the DerbyNetClient. However, under the covers

Re: Soft Upgrade and Downgrade

2006-03-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
Mike Matrigali wrote: The way I look at it, derby has a very nice default. We call it soft upgrade, but in my mind it really is no upgrade. We guarantee that if you do nothing to your existing app, then you can run it and the database against your current version of the derby software and all

Re: Hard vs. Soft Upgrade

2006-03-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
have a process for guaranteeing that future database changes end up in the right bucket? Thanks, -Rick Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Discussion moved to derby-dev Rick Hillegas wrote: Soft Upgrade is a feature which I think was introduced after I left Cloudscape. Please bear with me as I

Re: Feature freeze vs bug fix freeze (was Re: Unique constraints and null)

2006-03-23 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi David, Yes, that is my understanding. I don't know any other way to address defects discovered during the stabilization/trashathon period. Regards, -Rick David W. Van Couvering wrote: I was wondering if I could get some clarity here. Feature freeze is soon approaching, but won't we be

refactoring of DataSources for the embedded client

2006-03-23 Thread Rick Hillegas
Anurag has posted a patch for DERBY-1137, which refactors the embedded DataSources to account for new methods introduced by JDBC4. Reviewers are welcome to take a look at this code. Dan, your expertise in the embedded client would be particularly useful here. Thanks, -Rick

Re: Hard vs. Soft Upgrade

2006-03-23 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Deepa Remesh wrote: On 3/22/06, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that changes to the database are partitioned into two buckets: those accomplished by Hard Upgrade and those accomplished by Soft Upgrade. Examples of Soft Upgrade changes

Re: access denied test diffs in Rick's environment

2006-03-24 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Bryan, Sorry to not get back to you sooner. I have been at an offsite all day and am only now plowing through my email. 1) The Network server appears to be coming up with a security manager and policy file 2) I did a diff between that policy file and what's in the codeline, and they

Re: access denied test diffs in Rick's environment

2006-03-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Bryan, Glad to hear that this moved the problem forward. I will log a bug after JIRA comes back up. Regards, -Rick Bryan Pendleton wrote: 4) My classpath is wired together out of the classtree under trunk/classes and the jar files in trunk/tools/java. Thanks, Rick, that was exactly

Re: Should network client and engine be *required* to match SQL States? (was Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1149) 'jdbc40/StatementTest.junit' fails under DerbyNetClient)

2006-03-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi David, I agree that this is a good goal. However, I wouldn't say that this is the most important discrepancy distinguishing our clients. It seems to me that client-convergence, including SQLState agreement, is a big project, requiring a systematic plan. I say, keep closing the gap on an

Re: Compatibility guarantees for SQL states and messages

2006-03-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi David, There's clearly a compatibility issue here. Reasonable applications do look at the SQLStates of caught exceptions. However, I think our guidelines let us fix incorrect SQLStates--including making the Network and Embedded clients agree. I would recommend listing SQLState changes in

Re: [jira] Updated: (DERBY-1146) Verify that JDBC4 signatures satisfied

2006-03-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
I think that this test is the gold-standard. It supplies a missing sanity check which won't be available until we have a TCK for JDBC4. Thanks for writing this test, Knut Anders. Regards, -Rick Knut Anders Hatlen wrote: Andreas Korneliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is very

pushing back release date for jdbc4-capable Derby

2006-03-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
A while ago, I volunteered to manage a Derby release which will include a new feature that is important to me: an implementation of JDBC4. Based on the JDBC4 schedule then, I had hoped to post that release in June. However, because the JDBC4 schedule moved back, I must post my release later,

Re: Derby interface stabilities

2006-03-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi David, This is great. Thanks for pulling this together. I have one nit: Currently, we say that the Release Notes document only changes to Unstable interfaces. I think the Release Notes should document changes to Stable and Standard interfaces (which ought to be rare), and the Release

Re: pushing back release date for jdbc4-capable Derby

2006-03-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
Note that our current nightly snapshots don't contain the jdbc40 classes. We could: 1) Change the nightly build to always generate the jdbc40 support or 2) Hand-generate a snapshot early in May (1) seems more useful to me. Regards, -Rick Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote:

pushing back the freeze date for the JDBC4 work

2006-03-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
I need to push back the freeze date for the JDBC4 work. The following issues have created more work than I originally estimated: 1) Upgrade issues raised by Kathey, tracked in DERBY-1107 2) Missing method signatures, tracked by DERBY-1146 3) The continued evolution of the JDBC4 spec itself 4)

Re: pushing back the freeze date for the JDBC4 work

2006-03-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
expenses. 2) The value of getting early feedback. 3) The cost of premature feedback on half-baked code. Regards, -Rick Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: I need to push back the freeze date for the JDBC4 work. The following issues have created more work than I originally

Re: Should we vote on it? (was Re: Discussion (in preparation for a vote) on interface stability table)

2006-03-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi David, I think you may have already addressed the following issues in email, but I don't see the results rolled onto the wiki page. Please pardon my nitpicking. This kind of discussion turns me into a tiresome, pedantic Mr. Hyde: 1) The cardinal rule. I recommend wordsmithing the

Re: Should we vote on it? (was Re: Discussion (in preparation for a vote) on interface stability table)

2006-03-31 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, David. I think this discussion is raising some interesting issues. David W. Van Couvering wrote: 2) Bug fixing policy. I think that the Exceptions section should say explicitly that It is OK for minor releases to fix bugs in our implementation of the standards, even if those

Re: Should we vote on it? (was Re: Discussion (in preparation for a vote) on interface stability table)

2006-03-31 Thread Rick Hillegas
around here without someone worrying whether than sneeze was compatible with your last sneeze :) David Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Thanks, David. I think this discussion is raising some interesting issues. David W. Van Couvering wrote: 2) Bug fixing policy. I

Re: Should we vote on it? (was Re: Discussion (in preparation for a vote) on interface stability table)

2006-03-31 Thread Rick Hillegas
Kathey Marsden wrote: I still need to think a lot about the whole major version boundary thing. It seems like we like solaris will be set at the same major version for a very long time. As I stated before I think for some things a time based approach seems most appropriate. You can expect

Re: [jira] Updated: (DERBY-955) Get derbyall on jdk1.6

2006-04-03 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Bryan, Yes, please drop in your changes first. It turns out I'm going to have to regenerate this patch because a boatload of canon changes went in over the weekend. Are you planning to commit your changes today? It would be great if I could merge and regenerate mid-afternoon San Francisco

Re: Monitoring/improving code coverage (was Re: code coverage results for trunk - svn revision no 390306)

2006-04-03 Thread Rick Hillegas
In previous lives, I've seen code-coverage metrics generated on, say, a monthly basis and used as a release barrier. I do not think they are appropriate as a barrier to checkin. Regards, -Rick Kathey Marsden wrote: David W. Van Couvering wrote: Did I ask this before? Do we want to

Re: Disussion surrounding holding off metadata changes until certain issues resolved

2006-04-03 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Kathey. This seems reasonable to me. Regards, -Rick Kathey Marsden wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: So, I'm unclear: Are you still blocking metadata changes or are you satisfied with the analysis done so far by Knut Anders and Dyre? Can we proceed with metadata checkins provided

several jdk1.6-specific canons deleted

2006-04-04 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have committed a patch to DERBY-955 which eliminates several jdk1.6-specific canons. If you are working on a patch which touches those files. you will want to merge with the mainline. Regards, -Rick

Re: New query language

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Jean, I share your general sense of disappointment with SQL but I don't think that this community could do much better. 1) SQL is a language designed by a committee. That's why it's so sprawling and inconsistent. I think that, very quickly, another community-designed language would be

SecurityManager testing

2006-04-10 Thread Rick Hillegas
In my work on DERBY-930, I have written a test which needs to figure out whether it is running against jar files or against the class path. This requires granting the following permission on the classtree: permission java.lang.RuntimePermission getProtectionDomain; This, in turn, breaks an

Re: QueryObjectGenerator SecurityManager - bug or requirement?

2006-04-11 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Dan, I believe this has exposed a jdk bug. I think it's being worked on. Thanks for raising the issue. Regards, -Rick Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Anurag Shekhar wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote On 04/10/06 23:54,: In the properties file for the TestQueryObject JDBC 4.0

Re: build broken?

2006-04-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Andrew, I thought that the mustang builds were generally available at http://download.java.net/jdk6/binaries/. Does this download site not work for you? Regards, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 4/11/06, Myrna van Lunteren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the build may be broken. My

Re: zero failures on jdk 1.6

2006-04-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
This is good news. I think we're ready now to wire the jdbc40 suite into derbyall (it should only run on jdk16). BTW, my last derbyall on jdk14 reported that it ran 645 tests. Regards, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 4/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Derby*

Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1079) Build javadoc under jdk 1.6

2006-04-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thnanks, Andrew, I will try this with whatever JavaCC I can. Cheers, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 4/12/06, Rick Hillegas (JIRA) derby-dev@db.apache.org wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1079?page=comments#action_12374225 ] Rick Hillegas commented on DERBY-1079

Re: [jira] Assigned: (DERBY-1079) Build javadoc under jdk 1.6

2006-04-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
be built anyway. Cheers, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 4/12/06, Rick Hillegas (JIRA) derby-dev@db.apache.org wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1079?page=all ] Rick Hillegas reassigned DERBY-1079: Assign To: Rick Hillegas

Re: [jira] Assigned: (DERBY-1079) Build javadoc under jdk 1.6

2006-04-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
Andrew McIntyre wrote: ships in the release. For the engine docs, I'd suggest a similar setup. If you don't exclude the jdbc40 classes, I'm pretty sure that javadoc will still find them in the source and complain if it can't find the corresponding compiled classfile. Ah, I think you're

Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1079) Build javadoc under jdk 1.6

2006-04-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Andrew. I was just setting up to run this test. I think your proposal is a winner. Regards, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 4/12/06, Andrew McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As mentioned previously, why not go with 4.0? The RuntimeException change only affects the mtGrammar

Re: !$!% derbyall

2006-04-13 Thread Rick Hillegas
On my similalry configured machine, debyall takes about half a day to run. This contrasts with its behavior last July, when it took maybe 3-4 hours. It's my impression that derbyall takes significantly longer to run this week than it did last week. Here are my unscientific musings: 1) On my

Re: !$!% derbyall

2006-04-13 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Army, This is probably the issue I was referring to. If it's resolved, that's great. Thanks, -Rick Army wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: 2) I seem to recall that, earlier this year, optimizer modifications bloated up the the per-query running time. Ummm...I think I'm the only one who

Re: Jira down for a move

2006-04-13 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Jean, I have lost the ability to add comments to JIRAs. I used to see a panel on the left which listed a number of options, including Comment. Now that panel is empty. I killed all my browsers and started a new one but the problem persists. Regards, -Rick Jean T. Anderson wrote: Jean

Re: Jira down for a move

2006-04-13 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks Michelle and Jean, this fixed my problem. Cheers, -Rick Michelle Caisse wrote: Hi Rick, You may have to log in again. -- Michelle Rick Hillegas wrote: Hi Jean, I have lost the ability to add comments to JIRAs. I used to see a panel on the left which listed a number of options

jdk16 javadoc tool now usable on Derby

2006-04-14 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have checked in a change to the way that we generate javadoc: If ant.properties points at a jdk16 installation, then we use the jdk16 javadoc tool and include JDBC4 support classes in derbydocs and in the published api. If ant.properties does not point at a jdk16 installation, then we use

Vacuous @return tags

2006-04-14 Thread Rick Hillegas
I've been generating javadoc a lot this week and have been cleaning up several empty @return tags. Typically these look like this: @param foo blah blah blah @param bar blah blah blah @return I would appreciate it if people would take a moment to remove these vacuous @return tags before

Re: jdk16 javadoc tool now usable on Derby

2006-04-14 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Andrew! Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 4/14/06, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have checked in a change to the way that we generate javadoc: If ant.properties points at a jdk16 installation, then we use the jdk16 javadoc tool and include JDBC4 support classes in derbydocs

diff in TestResultSetMethods

2006-04-17 Thread Rick Hillegas
I'm seeing the following failure in a clean client torn off the mainline. This is a diff in the DerbyNetClient run of the jdbc4 test TestResultSetMethods. I'm running under mustang build 78. MasterFileName = master/TestResultSetMethods.out 0 add Unexpected exception caught SQL Exception:

Re: [jira] Updated: (DERBY-955) Get derbyall on jdk1.6

2006-04-18 Thread Rick Hillegas
When I bring up a 1.6 network server and issue this command outside the test, I don't see the error. Regards, -Rick Bryan Pendleton wrote: Rick Hillegas (JIRA) wrote: With this submission, we are down to the wisconsin noise plus some diffs in sysinfo and sysinfo_withProperties. Can you

Re: [jira] Updated: (DERBY-955) Get derbyall on jdk1.6

2006-04-18 Thread Rick Hillegas
) at org.apache.derby.impl.drda.NetworkServerControlImpl.processCommands(Unknown Source) at org.apache.derby.impl.drda.DRDAConnThread.sessionInitialState(Unknown Source) at org.apache.derby.impl.drda.DRDAConnThread.run(Unknown Source) Bryan Pendleton wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Testing Sysinfo

build problem

2006-04-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
Dang. I just synced with the mainline and now when I build under 1.4, the build complains that it can't find javax.transaction.xa: [javac] C:\cygwin\home\rh161140\derby\mainline\trunk\java\engine\org\apache\derby\iapi\store\access\xa\XAResourceMan ager.java:27: package

Re: build problem

2006-04-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
Oh bother. I have synced up to revision 395720. That fixes the build problem, but now I'm getting UnsupportedClassVersionError again when I run jdbcapi/metadata.java under DerbNetClient on jdk1.3. -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 4/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick

Re: serialization of Derby DataSources

2006-04-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
in my tests was that for one of the data sources the serialversion UID was not public, so I was getting failures. Now I can't remember if I checked in that fix or not. David Rick Hillegas wrote: I'm confused about the presence of serialVersionUIDs in the DataSources exposed by our network client

errors building docs

2006-04-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
I'm getting errors like the following when I build the user docs. Would appreciate advice about how to fix this. Thanks-Rick [echo] * [echo] * input =

Re: serialization of Derby DataSources

2006-04-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
getting an incompatible class error or whatever it's called. I was doing everything perfectly, and it was still breaking. Once I set the serialVersionUID to be public, peace reigned. David Rick Hillegas wrote: Thanks, Lance. I agree. We seem to have a muddle if someone adds a new non-transient

Re: serialization of Derby DataSources

2006-04-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
to the test suite for any serializable objects Rick Hillegas wrote: Thanks, Lance. I agree. We seem to have a muddle if someone adds a new non-transient field to one of these classes: either a) the engineer changes the serialVersionUID, giving rise to the problem you mention or b

Re: errors building docs

2006-04-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
for you? -jean Rick Hillegas wrote: I'm getting errors like the following when I build the user docs. Would appreciate advice about how to fix this. Thanks-Rick [echo] * [echo] * input = C:\cygwin\home\rh161140\derby\docs

jdbc4 tests now require build 81 of jdk1.6

2006-04-24 Thread Rick Hillegas
My last checkin wired a new test (AutoloadTest) into the jdbc40 suite. To run the jdbc40 suite cleanly against the Derby jar files, you now need build 81 of jdk1.6. Regards, -Rick

Re: 10.2 release in August?

2006-04-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Andrew, Yes, I'm still planning to manage a JDBC4-capable Derby release to go GA soon after Mustang (jdk1.6) goes GA in September/October. Bryan and Knut have expressed some concern that the Mustang schedule may slip. Although I do not foresee a Mustang schedule slip, I acknowledge the

derbyall failures last night on jdk1.6

2006-04-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Does anyone have a theory about these failures? I have successfully run some of the failed tests on linux and on xp/cygwin, using build 81 of jdk1.6: derbynet/DerbyNetAutoStart, nist/schema1, and the encryptionAll suite. Regards, -Rick

Re: Review of Derby's JDBC4 implementation

2006-04-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi, David. Thanks to Anurag for wiring in the Ease-of-Development features, the focus of this blog. Unfortunately, Brian tried to test our driver-autoloading the day before this feature hit the mainline. I'm afraid I don't understand Brian's problem with autogenerated keys. Thanks for

Javadoc lies

2006-04-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
Right now the javadoc generated for jdk1.6 is telling a shocking lie. I can fix this but only by inducing javadoc to tell a different lie. I would like advice on how to get javadoc to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. If that's not possible, I'd like to know which lie

Re: Javadoc lies

2006-04-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
short of facts, but they were two ideas I thought I'd put out there to see if they might help. David Rick Hillegas wrote: Right now the javadoc generated for jdk1.6 is telling a shocking lie. I can fix this but only by inducing javadoc to tell a different lie. I would like advice on how to get

Re: Derbyall runtimes, 10.1, and Security Manager

2006-05-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Bryan, When playing around with individual tests--enabling and disabling the SecurityManager--I have noticed that our tests run considerably slower when launched under the SecurityManager. I don't have any sense of how much of the problem is just a tax we have to pay for security. Sounds

Re: Build warning

2006-05-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
I believe that Knut Anders is working on a fix to this problem. In the meantime, I have introduced another instance of this warning with svn revision 398594. I think that May Day is a holiday in Norway, but Knut Anders should be back tomorrow. Regards, -Rick David W. Van Couvering wrote: I

Re: Javadoc lies

2006-05-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Andrew, Thanks to your excellent work on derby-1078, it appears that we use the 1.6 javac when compiling in a shell window whose JAVA_HOME points at a 1.6 installation. Thanks to your changes, the build targets tell the 1.6 compiler to regard pre-JDBC4 source as down-rev and to generate

Re: [VOTE] Halley Pacheco de Oliveira as committer

2006-05-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
+1 Yes, indeed. Jean T. Anderson wrote: This vote is for establishing Halley Pacheco de Oliveira as a documentation committer for Derby. Halley has translated the Derby Getting Started Guide and the Derby Reference to Brazilian Portuguese (DERBY-780, DERBY-1138) and tells me the Derby Server

Missing JDBC3 methods, was: [jira] Updated: (DERBY-1253) Verify that we don't raise SQLFeatureNotSupportedException for mandatory methods

2006-05-02 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Lance, Here's another gap between Derby's JDBC3 implementation and a reasonable interpretation of the spec: Currently, Derby supports CallableStatement methods of the form: getXXX( int paramNumber) and setXXX( int paramNumber, FOO paramValue ) but Derby does not implement the

Re: [jira] Created: (DERBY-1281) JDBC4 Compliance

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Hillegas
driver? David Rick Hillegas (JIRA) wrote: JDBC4 Compliance Key: DERBY-1281 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1281 Project: Derby Type: Improvement Components: JDBC Versions: 10.2.0.0Reporter: Rick Hillegas Fix

Re: Javadoc lies

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread. It doesn't seem that anyone has a solution to this problem. Does anyone have a preference for which lie we tell: (1b) or (2d)? Barring a preference here, the default would be (1b), our current behavior. Thanks, -Rick Rick Hillegas wrote

Re: Javadoc lies

2006-05-08 Thread Rick Hillegas
not obvious. :-) Craig Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread. It doesn't seem that anyone has a solution to this problem. Does anyone have a preference for which lie we tell: (1b) or (2d)? Barring a preference here, the default would be (1b), our current behavior. Thanks, -Rick Rick

Re: What should I set JAVA_HOME to

2006-05-08 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks to Andrew and David for carrying this useful discussion forward. I have a couple comments:: 1) Concerning the ant code below: I would feel better if we factored this code up into the init target. Hopefully, all targets end up calling init one way or another. 2) I applied the proposed

JDBC4 documentation, was: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1079) Build javadoc under jdk 1.6

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Hillegas
://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1079 Project: Derby Type: Bug Components: Build tools Versions: 10.2.0.0 Reporter: Rick Hillegas Assignee: Rick Hillegas Fix For: 10.2.0.0 Attachments: bug1079_clientPublicAPI.diff, bug1079_deprecated.diff, bug1079_embeddedPublicAPI.diff

JDBC4 compliance question, was: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1288) Bring Derby into JDBC compliance by supporting executeQuery() on escaped procedure invocations

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Hillegas
Type: Improvement Components: JDBC Versions: 10.2.0.0 Reporter: Rick Hillegas Assignee: Knut Anders Hatlen Fix For: 10.2.0.0 The following statement raises an error in Derby: statement.executeQuery( {call foo()} ); although this statement works

Re: JDBC4 documentation, was: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1079) Build javadoc under jdk 1.6

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Hillegas
a more capable, top level index.html and wrestle with the release machinery to get it into our release distributions Hope I'm not talking at cross-purposes still. Thanks, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 5/9/06, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, I don't think I understand

Re: JDBC4 documentation, was: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1079) Build javadoc under jdk 1.6

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Andrew, A couple more small points: Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 5/9/06, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the following then a fair summary of your patch comment: o I will remove my index.html from the patch o At your leisure, you can create a more capable, top level

Re: jdk16 and suite derbyall - 128 failures

2006-05-10 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Ramandeep, This issue is covered by the umbrella DERBY-955 jira. The problem has been analyzed this far: The tests run cleanly against the classtree but fail because of permissions exceptions when run against jar files. We suspect an asymmetry in the permissions granted to the classtree

locatorsUpdateCopy

2006-05-11 Thread Rick Hillegas
SQLFeatureNotSupportedException. What are your thoughts? Thanks, -Rick ---BeginMessage--- [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1316?page=comments#action_12379131 ] Rick Hillegas commented on DERBY-1316: -- I see that neither true nor false is completely satisfying

Proposal to change Derby's public api for XADataSource and ConnectionPoolDataSource

2006-05-11 Thread Rick Hillegas
Dear Derby users, Please read this message if you work on an application server or in an application layer which cares about distributed transactions and/or pooled connections. Right now the inheritance graph for Derby's DataSources does not mirror the corresponding graph of interfaces in

Re: Proposal to change Derby's public api for XADataSource and ConnectionPoolDataSource

2006-05-15 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks for forwarding this, Kathey. Regards, -Rick Kathey Marsden wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Dear Derby users, 0Please read this message if you work on an application server or in an application layer which cares about distributed transactions and/or pooled connections. Right now

Re: jdk16 and suite derbyall - 128 failures

2006-05-16 Thread Rick Hillegas
): java.security.AccessControlException'. Oddly enough, the nist tests pass if run under 1.6 and standalone against the jar files (that is, not under derbyall). We're clearly not getting this error in the tinderbox tests run against jars under 1.4. Regards, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 5/10/06, Rick

Re: Snapshot build problem on trunk

2006-05-16 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Andrew, Could there be some extra magic which http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbySnapshotOrRelease should document? When I follow the steps in (2), I get an error. Here are the steps: 587 ant clobber 588 ls 589 rm -rf jars 590 rm -rf javadoc 591 rm -rf snapshot 592 ls 593

Re: jdk16 and suite derbyall - 128 failures

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Hillegas
396638 enabled driver autoloading (DERBY-930). It's the patch which required us to migrate to Mustang build 81--that build fixes a bug which short-circuited autoloading from jar files under a SecurityManager. With DERBY-930 in place, the vm will execute its autoloading logic when running

Re: SqlExceptionTest failure on JDK 1.3 platforms ...

2006-05-19 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Satheesh, It looks to me like this is a new test introduced by revision 386710 to close DERBY-1117. Testing getCause() appears to be central to what this test wants to verify. Maybe we shouldn't run this test on 1.3. Regards, -Rick Satheesh Bandaram wrote: Looks like this test was

Re: jdk16 and suite derbyall - 128 failures

2006-05-19 Thread Rick Hillegas
as it finds a driver which claims to understand the connection url. It is puzzling that the problem only occurs when the db2jcc jar appears on the CLASSPATH. The db2jcc driver name isn't scribbled inside that jar file so the autoloader shouldn't see it. -Rick Olav Sandstaa wrote: Rick

Re: jdk16 and suite derbyall - 128 failures

2006-05-19 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Olav, Which driver (Network or Embedded) do you expect should be loaded? Also, what is your classpath when the test fails? Thanks, -Rick ]Olav Sandstaa wrote: I have not found the real cause for why the Nist tests fail but here is a short re-cap of my current findings - in case anyone

upcoming 10.2 snapshot

2006-05-23 Thread Rick Hillegas
I would like to generate a 10.2 snapshot very soon. To do this, I need advice from Andrew and the rest of the community. Hi Andrew, I would like the snapshot to describe itself. Here's my understanding of how this is done: 1) I should summarize what we hope the community will test. This

releases, snapshots, and upgrade-disabling

2006-05-24 Thread Rick Hillegas
Right now the mainline is marked as alpha quality. This will be true of the upcoming snapshot we propose to cut off the mainline. Given the alpha marker, databases created by the snapshot won't be upgradable. What happens when we branch the mainline for the 10.2 release? At what point do we

Re: [VOTE] Suresh Thalamati as Derby committer

2006-05-24 Thread Rick Hillegas
+1 David Van Couvering wrote: This vote is for adding Suresh Thalamati as a committer to Derby. Suresh has been contributing since the beginning of Derby. His contributions to the storage layers of Derby have been quite valuable, including his very valuable contribution of online backup, a

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