RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread Rodney Kraft
Ah, I see what you guys are getting at: IRLP First, that's INTERNET, NOT Amateur Radio! Radio's should be linked via the AIR WAYS, NOT over phone lines. But that's MY opinion! You're just trying to safe guard your personal information, which really shouldn't be going over the Air Ways

[digitalradio] Cross platform improvements

2007-04-28 Thread mrfarm
I had mentioned cross platform development recently and wondered if Mono could easily do the porting. It is not something that just happens, but based upon the results of some competition, it does look like this is doable: http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=1022 73, Rick, KV9U

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread AA0OI
Hi Dave: MIN for 3.4 gig is 450 watts!! and if your going to run it hard.. 500 or more Garrett / AA0OI - Original Message From: Dave Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:43:13 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Pay attention Rod, you get it eventuallyit's called RADIO! (HI) Original Message Follows From: Rodney Kraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
My digital Ham station on 2.4 GHz is ALWAYS encrypted and the FCC said that's OK because we share that frequency with a portion of the Part 15 allocation. Original Message Follows From: Danny Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread Dave Corio
The power supply has been changed once already, but that was changing a 250-watt for another 250-watt. I can't just get a generic power supply, as Gateway has a proprietary mounting system that a generic won't fit into without a lot of drilling. I'm going to order a 450-watt unit from

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread AA0OI
Hi Dave: I have no lost love for Gateway. but even worst yet is Dell.. if you check on the computer you will find that Dell has one of the worst customer service there is.. The only good way to get around this is to build it yourself.. Check out Newegg or tigerdirect (newegg 1st choice)

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread Dave Corio
Actually, Gateway's customer service has been pretty good. They had the tech come to the house three or four times to do the repairs. Unfortunately, anything that NEEDS to be repaired eight times has to have started out as junk! I could understand a hard drive crash. Stuff happens. But

Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread Chuck Mayfield
Bruce, You might want to post your rant to THE LEAGUE. You are preaching mostly to the choir here. HI HI Chuck AA5J At 11:16 PM 4/27/2007, bruce mallon wrote: OK RM-11306 is on the back burner for now what will the ARRL do next ? Here is what they SHOULD do ... ASK with a list of

RE: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread bruce mallon
1) Who are you talking to ? No one by the name BRFUCE here must be a lost digital bit at 100 khz wide 2.4 ghz digi . 2) THEY are the ARRL 3)THEY are supose to do the will of the members 4)THEY don't seem intrested in doing THAT. 5) THEY should be asking for the members not the

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread bruce mallon
I dont have a problem with MICROWAVE . NOR realy on 75 meters however how do you control who gets on and uses the band . how many unlicensed persons on 75 / 80 meters would it take for the FCC to shut all digital encription down --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread wa8vbx
Well I guess I will fight not to have encryption on ham radio but wait isn't that what SCS/Winlink folks already have. Adapt or give in, mmmhh, I guess I will not do neither but to continue to fight the commericalization of ham radio..\ Kurt - Original Message - From: John Champa

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread Danny Douglas
I Bought two complete kits of comuter stuff from tiger, and got a heck of a lot more than paying the same amount of money and buying one off the shelf unit. I did have to replace one power supply, and one cd plalyer/recorder between the two, in the last 3 years. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread Les Warriner
You are correct and you do not have to deal with people in India to get help. There is a book out, The world is flat, that very well explains what is going on in the hi-tech companies. At 10:51 AM 4/28/2007, you wrote: Hi Dave: I have no lost love for Gateway. but even worst yet is Dell..

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread WB6BNE
Hello there, Does anybody remember Packard Bell Customer service. 73 Gary WB6BNE - Original Message - From: Les Warriner To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated You are

Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread Alan NV8A
According to the latest ARRL Letter, the League has been asking people for three years now and has received many responses. Withdrawing RM-11306 now is one result of those responses. 73 Alan NV8A On 04/28/07 12:16 am bruce mallon wrote: OK RM-11306 is on the back burner for now what

[digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread N6CRR
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, wa8vbx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I guess I will fight not to have encryption on ham radio but wait isn't that what SCS/Winlink folks already have. Adapt or give in, mmmhh, I guess I will not do neither but to continue to fight the commericalization of ham

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Wow! One of the local head hunters...oppps, I mean Professional Recruiters!...sorry... recently wanted me to accept a job as a VP for off-shore technical resources. Wonder if this is what he was writing about? (HI, HI) Gotta buy that World if flat book! Tnx Garrett Dave! 73, John - K8OCL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Kurt, It is already here! We have been encrypting Amateur Radio Part 97 digital traffic 24/7 on 2.4 GHz for years! It is expanding in use in the Amateur Radio VHF UHF bands, but is not likely to be found on any HF bands as international encrypted traffic is not permitted by the ITUbut

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Bruce, Current Amateur Radio Guidelines for the use of Encryption specify that identification always be in the clear and that the encryption KEY be recorded in the station's log book in the event an ARRL OO or the FCC which to check the contents of the traffic to ensure that it complies with

RE: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Bruce, Sorry for fat-fingering you name! BTW, our HSMM signals on 2.4 GHz are 20 MHz wide, not 100 kHz!!! That's why it's called Spread Spectrum... Write the list of questions you think should be asked, and send them to me and I will ensure they get published somewhere. That's what I do. Then

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
John, You might want to try PocketDigi for Windows or Windows Pocket PC. It does a great job on CW over 25WPM and is free. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 3:53 pm, John Champa wrote: So there should NOT be any problemof course, CW above 25 WPM might as well be encrypted as far as I

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF search text

2007-04-28 Thread John GM4SLV
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:18:42 - cesco12342000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone started using it, and had any success? Yes, it's useful. From user guide: Two numbers appear at the end of each line. The first number tells whether the soft-decision Reed Solomon decoder failed (0)

[digitalradio] Re:Announcing the Digitalradio 7th Anniversary WAC Challenge/Award

2007-04-28 Thread Brian KIng
Nice idea Andy, should stir things up methinks. Any room for a SWL class in the challenge ? I think I can rustle up a couple of SWLs to take part. 73 and have a great weekend. Brian ZL2001SWL EPC 002L SWARL _ Live Search

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread n2qz
John Champa wrote: So encryption is required to be used, and the League attorney asked the FCC if that was acceptable and they said yes. The FCC's reasoning was that it was NOT our INTENT (an important legal concept) to obscure the communications. Our intent is to PROTECT our HSMM Network

Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread bruce mallon
OPINION is still allowed in this country When it's not there will be no need for HAM radio. IF the ARRL feels it's members are slandering it then let us know .. --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, Knock off the slander, OK? Many of use fine Ham friends who have worked

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption NOT!

2007-04-28 Thread Danny Douglas
I am afraid many of them don't really care what you and I think about it. In this atmosphere of fright, many think that if we DON'T do as they are planning, we will loose our freqs totally. I think if we do it, we indeed WILL loose our freqs. Thus it turns out to be a catch-as-catch-can

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread Danny Douglas
Dave, is it still under warranty? If not, it would be cheaper to take it to a local shop and have them check it - of course - if this new power supply doesnt fix the problem. I suspect it is NOT under warranty, or you would have been able to ask Gateway for another supply. FYI, we had over

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption... NOT

2007-04-28 Thread mrfarm
If one does a web search you find a lot of comments about encryption and amateur radio. But they mostly seem to come from one source. You and your group. Just because you are doing something that may be illegal or at least very borderline sub rosa type of activity does not mean that the rest

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread Dave Corio
Why I threw in the towel It is still under warranty. In-home service, no less! The tech has been here so often, we exchange Christmas cards! Seriously, the reason I'm giving up on Gateway is the history with this machine. We have purchased six desktops and a

Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread John Bradley
Yawn. How about you move this ARRL rant somewhere else and let's stick to digital radio stuff? We've heard all this before , and still remain totally baffled over the US ham's love of rules!! John VE5MU - Original Message - From: bruce mallon To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com

[digitalradio] Wideband on 6

2007-04-28 Thread bruce mallon
My dream was / is an ADV 100 kHz channel up around 53 MHz where we could have ADV QSOs over 50 -100 miles without investing a fortune in antennas. There are very few 6M FM repeaters in my area and the local coordinators are happy to keep a few channels uncoordinated for our ADV use. John -

RE: [digitalradio] Wideband on 6

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Bruce, Yes, frequency coordination above 53 MHz would be a problem when the band open, but I think we would have a few years to work that out as the technology evolved from self-designed kit modems, to publicly available kits, to a manufactured product such as is sold for 4 MHz ATV at present.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption... NOT

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Yepyou're are right. They didn't like policy recommendations. They wanted on technical recommendations. But the WG got so frustrated with the Board's flip flops on the issue (sound familiar?), that they all just resigned ... in TOTAL... after one conference call in November 2006. I still

Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Plato: S--- slinging accomplishes nothing in a rational argument. Or I think he wrote SOMETHING like that(HI) John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Nick, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Somebody finally figured out to ask the key question! Nick gets an A+. The League's attorney would not let us publish his FCC communications and discussions on this encryption matter outside the WG (a couple dozen Hams). He couldn't even review and approved our