[digitalradio] Frequencies RFSM8000 and MIL-STD 188-110 (Re: RFSM8000 qrg's?)

2009-02-23 Thread expeditionradio
Hi Wolf, Here is the Centre of Activity frequency list we have been using for RFSM8000 and MIL-STD 188-110 testing, file transfer, auto, and some images: VFO FREQ KHZ / MODE=USB 1806.0 1840.5 3584.5 3626.0 7040.5 7065.0 7100.0 10142.5 14101.0 14112.0 14233.0 18104.5 18111.0 21116.0

Re: [digitalradio] Re: NBEMS QST article/digital weak signal FM

2009-02-23 Thread kh6ty
Thank you for that explanation. I didn't know the modulation mode would make a difference. It would have been interesting to test the theory with Skip. Unfortunately, we live too far apart for VHF/FM. Thanks again... Tony - K2MO Tony, You do not need to test only with me! You can test

[digitalradio] Using CTSS on a digipeater?

2009-02-23 Thread Terry Breitenfeldt
If I wanted to setup a closed Digipreater on 145.09 Mhz on a high mountain peak, so that I could limit activity to only ECOM traffic, would the use of a CTSS tone decode be a viable option? Would a CTSS tone interfere with Packet operations?

Re: [digitalradio] illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread James R. Gorr
Maybe it was because of all the spam requests sent to join their group. --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net wrote: From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net Subject: [digitalradio] illinoisdigital group To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 6:24 PM I

Re: [digitalradio] illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Rick W
If it is true that Yahoo will just stop a group based on complaints, then that is very troubling as it could happen to any group with malicious activities by certain individuals making false claims. However, he indicated that he had no warning from Yahoo. As owner of another group that had

[digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread John Taylor
At the risk of stirring an unwanted debate, I for one DO consider repeated join requests as SPAM. Why? Mark has repeatedly joined other related groups and immediately started gathering names from that group to solicit memberships in his group. I do know, from personal experience, that there have

Re: [digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Rick W
Just so I understand it, are you saying that he repeatedly sent join requests to the same person (such as yourself)? I personally don't consider a request to join another group to be spam at all, but each to his own. I do know that there have been individuals who were very pleased to join the

[digitalradio] MF Tele Type

2009-02-23 Thread ea3aqs
Isn't there a Yahoo Group concerning that mode MF Tele Type ?

Re: [digitalradio] illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Rick this is true but I must ask is there really a need to post it to every ham list on yahoo? I was getting it 20 or so times. On the list that I either own or moderate he was set to no mail. This tells me one thing only. He did not want anything going to his in box and must have been

[digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Gillis
I think that Yahoo has done the right thing, and I find it hard to believe that Mark says that he had no warnings. Myself as well as many others sent emails to Mark asking him to stop, he choose not to reply to any eMails (to myself or others) Marks actions were consistent with a spammer

Re: [digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
I kept receiving join requests and lots of unsolicited postings - got fed up with it but didn't complain, just put it down to him being very eager. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net Just so I understand it, are you

Re: [digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Rick Scott is right on with his comments. Remember what Andy our list owner said in a post on Feb 19 09 at 02:37Z I am guessing that it was taken down due to violation of Yahoo rules. Several people have written to me privately complaining about what they perceived as violations. I refrained

[digitalradio] Re: NBEMS QST article/digital weak signal FM

2009-02-23 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
As more people try using digital modes on 2 meter FM, the overall best performing mode will automatically surface, but for the longest range on digital modes (not counting CW), it is really necessary to use SSB, and in that case, we have found that MFSK16 is just too critical for tuning to

Re: [digitalradio] Re: NBEMS QST article/digital weak signal FM

2009-02-23 Thread kh6ty
Vojtech, Another good suggestion! :-) I see the wheels have been turning in Vojtech's mind! RSID is already in fldigi, so will try that. I hope others reading this will also try that, and all the modes, and let us know their experiences. Testing is slowed down by the necessity to find

Re: [digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Chris Jewell
I didn't complain either, but after about 5 or so of his messages I added this to my .procmailrc: # advertisements in various Y! ham-radio mailing lists *From: .*wb9...@yahoo.com /dev/null 73 de kw6h, ex-ae6vw Chris Jewell

Re: [digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Alan Barrow
Rick W wrote: But I can see that receiving many repeated requests to be a bit annoying. Whenever I have sent a request to an individual to join, it has been a personal message and not something automated. Perhaps he was using some automated technique and it wound up sending many duplicates?

[digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
DIRECT MESSAGE - Rick He was warn many many times. People have been bitching at him for the last 2 years. I was myself was not told if yahoo gave any warning but one would think they did before taking any action. But what I do know is that they (yahoo) saw the same post going to some 43 list it

Re: [digitalradio] illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread JAMES ROSPOPO
Rick,   Please read Yahoo's Terms of Use, which is at the bottom of each email.  Pay particular attention to the spam policy within the Terms of Use.  It says in there that your Yahoo ID can be terminated without notice for violating that policy.  What Mark was doing fits one of the examples of

RE: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-23 Thread Rud Merriam
First, I would not dismiss sound card modes. I think there is much more that can be done with them. One of the main issues IMO is that they don't (1) adapt to changing band conditions, and (2) don't utilize FEC as much as is possible. (We also might need much better sound cards. The study reported

RE: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-23 Thread David Little
John, You have confirmed what others already know about P3. I sold my PTC IIex last year, when the Winmor protocol was announced to be in development. It should introduce an ARQ mode to compete with P3, but will not replace it. I had the SCS in a go kit with either a Yaesu FT-897D or and

Re: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-23 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi John I have had the same experience . I have also been testing the SCS PTC2 usb modem with a pactor3. Although I love Patrick's ale400 mode , I have to admit , nothing can compete with the P3 mode. 73 de la5vna Steinar John Bradley wrote: As many of you know, I have been very

Re: [digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Chuck Mayfield
I only wish Yahoo would find another sponser for the group. What happened to all the good information in the files section? What happened to all the good information in the posts? Who actually owns the posts by group members? Are we all to be punished? John, Exactly how does one actually contact

[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-23 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rud Merriam k5...@... wrote: First, I would not dismiss sound card modes. I think there is much more that can be done with them. One of the main issues IMO is that they don't (1) adapt to changing band conditions, and (2) don't utilize FEC as much as is

Re: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-23 Thread Howard Brown
Hi John, Let's reserve judgment just a bit longer. Maybe the performance of Winmor will be good enough so that we won't need to buy the expensive modems. Maybe it will listen before transmitting. Now if they would modify the Winlink system so that it listened before transmitting and there

Re: [digitalradio] illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Brent Gourley
I also own and or moderate groups in other endeavors. Please check for your email preferences for each email address you use on yahoo. If you leave one particular block unchecked, then a list owner/moderator cannot send you invitations to join his group. KE4MZ, Brent Dothan, AL

[digitalradio] Moderator Gone Wild: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread expeditionradio
Since illinoisdigitalham group is now gone, there has been quite a lot of discussion about it. It seems that Mark's rise to power as a group owner and especially, as a moderator, was rather sudden. Many of the successful group owners and moderators have developed their groups over many years,

[digitalradio] Re: Using CTSS on a digipeater?

2009-02-23 Thread vinceinwaukesha
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Terry Breitenfeldt tabreitenfe...@... wrote: If I wanted to setup a closed Digipreater on 145.09 Mhz on a high mountain peak, so that I could limit activity to only ECOM traffic, would the use of a CTSS tone decode be a viable option? Would a CTSS

[digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Gillis
Rick, I think we have reached the point of beating a dead horse (so to speak) But for the record, Mark never had the courtesy or respect, to reply to a single person. And most likely ignored Yahoo's eMails also. I see that he removed all references to illinoisdigital group from his QRZ

RE: [digitalradio] illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Gillis N3UJJ
Rick, I know for a fact that several members of this group (including myself) complained directly to Mark about his REPEATED invitations (which he ignored) so the complaints were forwarded to Yahoo. Scott Gillis N3UJJ http://n3ujj.com/hamshack.html My Hamshack

Re: [digitalradio] Re: illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Tim N9PUZ
Chuck Mayfield wrote: I only wish Yahoo would find another sponser for the group. What happened to all the good information in the files section? What happened to all the good information in the posts? Who actually owns the posts by group members? Are we all to be punished? I know nothing

[digitalradio] Moderator Statement : illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I would suggest that this topic be left alone. The Illinois group is gone and I am sure the owner will do what he can to defend his reputation. I do not wish to have this issue played out further via the digitalradio group. Since Rick has confirmed what I suspected (Yahoo took the Illinois

[digitalradio] Re: MF Tele Type

2009-02-23 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, ea3aqs ea3...@... wrote: Isn't there a Yahoo Group concerning that mode MF Tele Type ? I am not sure but the author and many users are active in this group. Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-23 Thread Rick W
While the Pactor 2 and 3 modes are quite good, they do use a constant 100 baud signaling rate. SCS indicated a number of years ago that their tests showed that with what at that time, they considered strong DSP, the desire for improved data throughput and I think resistance to Doppler, the

[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-23 Thread jhaynesatalumni
Something I forgot to mention earlier in suggesting a Pentium with sound card might be usable as a dedicated DSP engine - the K6STI software absolutely required an ISA SoundBlaster. If we want to define a new DSP engine we need some higher level of abstraction to be able to cope with hardware

Re: [digitalradio] illinoisdigital group

2009-02-23 Thread Alan Barrow
Brent Gourley wrote: Please check for your email preferences for each email address you use on yahoo. If you leave one particular block unchecked, then a list owner/moderator cannot send you invitations to join his group. I believe the messages were sent direct via email, not through the yahoo