Re: [libreoffice-documentation] conference call

[Leo Moons]

Hello David,



Op 28/11/2010 1:31, David Nelson schreef:

Hi, :-)

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 06:53, Ron Failermfa...@bellsouth.net  wrote:

On 11/27/2010 4:08 PM, Leo Moons wrote:

Hello,

The Belgian and Luxemburg numbers are not working. When dialing in via the
Netherlands: the pin is not accepted.

Can any body help?

Many thanks
Best regards

Leo Moons

I'm so sorry I did not check my mail during the call. :-(

No problem

We did catch this problem on the IRC, and all had to use the
moderator's PIN in the end (as you will have read)...
I had problems to join on the IRC as well: I am not that not much of an 
IRC user, but usually I manage, but not via the link in the Wiki. Could 
you add some info how to join?

However, I plan to propose another confcall in the very near future,
and will also be writing up this one at a page I created on the wiki
[1]. So you will be able to read up on the discussions.

Would be great, I will add my comments, questions, suggestions there.

My sincere apologies for this disappointment... I was able to log in
the other day when I tested... Next time I will ensure we don't have
this kind of problem.
It was indeed a bit of a disappointment, especially as I managed to call 
in at the end of the conversation, but I did not have that many comments 
on these last items on the agenda. I love the idea of sharing comments 
with people from different places on the globe, living in totally 
different time zones. But good to know, there will be next possibilities.

[1]http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/ConfCalls/Brainstorming

David Nelson


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about creating manuals in mediawiki (and then export to odt and pdf when required)?

[Leo Moons]

Hello Narayan,


Op 3/12/2010 16:23, Narayan Aras schreef:

Hi all,

I do not know if this is the right forum (and the right time) to put this idea, 
but why are we circulating odt/pdf files for proofreading?

I have written a 380-page user manual in odt; and also written several help 
docs in wiki format.
The difference was odt writing was a single-author effort, but wiki was 
supposed to be collaborative.

Besides, mediawiki has extension that can  export to odt/pdf any time and make 
it available for offline reading or printing.

See the example here: http://www.den4b.com/wiki/ReNamer
At the time of starting the wiki, I already had written most of the manual in 
odt format.
So I saved the individual chapters in mediawiki format, and pasted them in the 
wiki pages.
I had to upload all figures separately and link them. But on the whole the 
experience was smooth.

Wiki also eliminates the proofreading effort, as the others can directly edit 
the original effort.

Just my two cents.

Regards,
Narayan


Isn't it a good idea to use LibO to describe how to use it? ;-)
I have been translating OOo guides and learned a lot about the software 
by using it.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation team lead

[Leo Moons]

Hello David,


I offer to taken on the leadership and coordination of the team until
that time. Florian Effenberger has agreed to grant me wiki
administrator rights, so I will be able to do things such as
reorganize the documentation pages, move pages, protect pages, delete
pages, undelete pages and various other actions necessary for
establishing a workflow for the docs team.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] documentation at oooauthors

[Leo Moons]

Hi,


Sigrid,

Link works for me.

Thanks Andy.

What I find very strange is, that I have manager rights on oooauthors,
I see the review list, but I can't see this folder.

I checked the rights that I had, changed them, logged off and on again
- and still nothing changed. I can't see any content in this folder.

Btw, I also don't see an English folder in the left bar when I go to
oooauthors, I only see it, when I add /english to the url manually.

That's so strange.

Sigrid


I have similar rights as Sigrid and facing similar problems. How can I 
solve these?


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] documentation at oooauthors

[Leo Moons]

Hello Andreas,

Op 9/12/2010 21:22, Andreas Mantke schreef:

Hi Leo, Sigrid, *,

because I has not enough time to read all the emails on the list, I has not
enregistered this thread.

No problem

The issue is here a misconfiguration of the language setting for the whole 
folder.
The default language inside the Plone CMS of OOoAuthors.org is language 
neutral. This
is the only setting, which guarantees, that all members can see the directory 
and
it's content. You can translate the folder with LinguaPlone to another 
language. This
means that every user with the language setting according to the translation 
will see
the translated version in that language. The other members (with no available
translation) will see the default folder (with language neutral setting).
You can realise the misconfiguration, if you change your language setting by 
clicking
on the English flag.

Regards,
Andreas

Thanks a lot Andreas, problem solved.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] documentation at oooauthors

[Leo Moons]

Hi Jean,

The latest version of the draft LibO Getting Started guide chapters are
here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation

Ron Failes took all the published chapters and applied the new LibO
template to them. However, as far as I can tell, no other changes have
yet been made, for example changing OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice
(except on the title pages), and the list of contributors to the OOo
chapters does not appear in the LibO files that I checked. Other changes
that were made to the draft chapters have not been made to the latest
ones, either, so whoever works on these will need to do all of that
again. Comparing them with the draft chapters would help with those
updates, but not if you cannot get to the drafts.

The files are very much NOT ready for translation. In fact, IMO they are
not ready to be put on the LibO site, where other people can find and
copy them.
That is what I realised as well, but I was eager to find out what you 
were all talking about and which progress was made and see if there is 
any way I could help.


But as you will have understood from Andreas, the problem is solved. :-D

--Jean


Thanks for trying to help.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

[Leo Moons]

A big +1 from me, dear Jean.
FYI and everybody's info: we are near to complete the translation of 
first 4 chapters of the GS into Dutch.


Best regards

Leo

Op 23/04/2011 5:30, Jean Hollis Weber schreef:

Recently, several people have mentioned the need for a Docs team leader.
Some time ago, David Nelson urged me to take on that role. I declined,
choosing to stay in my role of Co-Lead at OpenOffice.org. Now, with
Oracle's recent announcement about turning OOo over to the community, I
am reconsidering my choices.

A question to you, the members of the LibreOffice Docs team (and other
interested people): in the hypothetical situation that I stick up my
hand for the Docs team leader role, would you consider me suitable?

Some of you know my style from OOo. I'm a pragmatist: while I'd love to
have us maintain a workflow that includes good reviews (both technical
and editorial), I think it's more important to get information out there
as quickly as possible in a form that's suitable for the general
audience. In other words, if enough people are not available to do
reviews quickly, then I tend to publish early and clean up any errors
later. Similarly, I prefer to have no info on a topic than hold up
publication until the info can be obtained and verified; missing info
can be added as it becomes available.

I'm also 100% in favour of maintaining the source docs for the user
guides in ODT format, which enables us to publish them in numerous
formats relatively quickly and easily. This is what we're doing now. (An
additional benefit is that using ODT files enables people to work on the
user guides without needing to have Internet access while doing the
work.) And lastly, writing documentation for an office suite using any
method other than the office suite itself strikes me as a very bad
advertisement for one's product.

Hoping to hear from you on my question in the second paragraph.

--Jean





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[libreoffice-documentation] Latest news on new release of Apache OpenOffice

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

Following link was brought to my attention and I think it is worth reading.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/apache-forges-ahead-openofficeorg-suite-182193

Therefore I think all available forces should concentrate in developing 
documentation for LibreOffice 3.5, but of course everybody is free to 
contribute to whatever project she/he wishes to do.
For your information: the Dutch speaking community is working hard to 
translate your very useful guides. 3 chapters are published and 5 others 
are nearing completion.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I have resigned from Apache OpenOffice

[leo . moons]

Sorry for my late reply, but travelling with hardly any internet.

++1 from me

Leo Moons
LibreOffice/nl

- Oorspronkelijk e-mail -
Van: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
Aan: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Verzonden: Zaterdag 5 mei 2012 14:00:00
Onderwerp: [libreoffice-documentation] I have resigned from Apache OpenOffice

For those of you who may not see my announcement elsewhere, I have
resigned from the Apache OpenOffice project management committee. I
intend no further involvement with the AOO project.

For me, contributing to a volunteer project must be enjoyable. I do
not enjoy working with the AOO project.

I do enjoy working with the LibreOffice project. I'm ready to take on
the role of leader here, if this group still wants me to do so.
(Don't worry, I won't be offended if you say no.)

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Translations of the guides?

[Leo Moons]

Hello Sophie,

I cannot but speak for the Dutch speaking community and please have a 
look where we are:


http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands/werkzaamheden_overzicht_versie3.x

And working hard to have GS completed. ;-)

Kind regards

Leo

Op 21-08-12 14:34, Sophie Gautier schreef:

Hi all,

Do you have an idea of how many language communities have translated 
the Guides on LibreOffice or are in his way to translate it ?

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Making a start

[Leo Moons]

Hi John and Jamie,

We, the Dutch speaking community, are presently translating the Writer 
guide. As you are working to upgrade this guide to 3.6, could you point 
me where you keep your draft versions, as I cannot trace them on 
ODFAuthors site.


Many thanks
Best regards

Leo

Op 15-11-12 23:08, John Smith schreef:

Hi Jean
I have a printout of the 3..5 and 3.6 features lists and will add 
things where needed. We should be able to look over each other's work 
and make suggestions if we spot anything. I'll take a look at Ch4 
soon, and perhaps Jamie will be happy to look at my Ch1 and comment if 
necessary.
The documents in the ODF draft folder I do appreciate are unfinished 
as 4.0 has yet to be released and I see there are ongoing discussions 
about the template that is to be used.


JohnS

On 15/11/2012 21:46, Jean Weber wrote:

John and Jamie,
I think there are some more items that need to be added to Chapter 4.
I've not found time to check whether that it true or not. John,
perhaps when you have time you could look at the features list and Ch4
and see what you think.

John, sorry I failed to mention that Jamie was also working on the
Writer Guide. It's big enough that having two people working on it is
probably a good thing, and means you can review each other's work as
well (since we have difficulty finding people to do proper reviews in
a timely manner).

--Jean

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:33 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
wrote:

Hi Jamie
I've found the relevant page on the wiki and will be using it to 
show what
I'm doing. I'll continue with chapter 2, and I'll and upload chapter 
1 to

ODF to the Drafts folder as you've done with chapter 4.

Regards
JohnS

On 15/11/2012 18:15, Jamie Eby wrote:

Hi John,
I'm working on the Writer guides as well. I've submitted a draft of 
one
chapter and have another chapter almost completed. That info should 
be in
the status chart, but let me know if you have any questions about 
what I'm

working on.
Thanks,
Jamie Eby

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mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi Jean
 I've decided to have a crack at the Writer guides. I'll work to
 bring them up to 3.6 whilst waiting for release 4.0
 Do you want the chapters put into ODF, Draft 3.6 I guess, as
 they're done, or should I hang fire 'til 4.0 is on the go?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] RE: Oracle Open Office Guides - license

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

There is no need for the Dutch version of these guides. Most of it is 
covered in the translated ODFAuthors guides.


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Op 28-11-12 20:52, bfo schreef:

bfo wrote

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote

I'll mention this to him and see if there is likely to be anything
happening.

Hi!
Any we won't suit you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely
available guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp
would be great news for some languages.
Best regards.

OMG. This should be like:

Any we won't sue you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely available
guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp would be great
news for some languages.





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] PING Leo Moons: Writer Guide Chapter 1

[Leo Moons]

Hello Jean,

I cannot trace my own version of this chapter and I cannot really 
remember the comments I made, but basically the recap of my comments was 
in the remarks.


Best regards

Leo

Op 08-12-12 05:08, Jean Weber schreef:

Leo,
You said you had made some comments in the chapter, but the file I
found on the website had no comments in it from you; it looks
identical to the file that John Smith had done.. (I have now moved the
file into the Old Drafts folder.)

When I edited this chapter, I moved some sections into the Preface of
the book, as you suggested, but I don't know if you had other comments
that I need to see.

--Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO v4.0 draft cover and internal design

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

I added my comments at the comment page of the wiki page.

Best regards

Leo

Op 02-01-13 08:31, Jean Weber schreef:

I'm looking at the draft cover and internal designs proposed by Klaus-Jürgen,
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Concept-GIn#Documentation

I made some comments about the draft front covers on this list last month:
The large empty area in the top half of the cover looks strange to me,
and the small LibreOffice logo in the top left gets a bit lost, I
think. I prefer to have a larger LibreOffice logo in this blank area.

If you're interested, please look at the page of designs and make any
comments of your own.

I will say something about the other designs soon. Also, I intend to
produce my own variation on the front cover design very soon, for your
consideration.

--Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO 4.0 user guides - Icon set

[Leo Moons]

+1 ;-)

Best regards

Leo

Op 23-01-13 22:20, Jean Weber schreef:

OK, since we all dislike the Tango icons, let's keep using Galaxy in the v4.0 
user guides for now. That will also save some work in identifying and replacing 
icon images.

--Jean

On 24/01/2013, at 1:46, Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello John

I only did this as an experiment. It will be easy enough to change back to 
Galaxy if we can get an agreement to continue with Galaxy.

Thanks for the info about the commenting in Writer. I shall watch out for it.

Regards

PeterS

On 23 Jan 2013, at 16:04, John Smith wrote:


Hi Peter
I've just taken a quick look at your chapter and agree that Tango is not too 
good an icon set. I've expressed the same opinion to Jean and I hope the 
decision will be made to stay with Galaxy.

With regards to the chapter you've just posted, the copyright page carries the 
date range 'to 2012'. I've been changing this to 2013.
Jean is going to make a decision on how we refer to file types: .odt, *.odt, 
.ODT, or just ODT etc. This so we have a consistent presentation in the docs.
I only wanted to look at the document to see your graphics to see if they 
reinforced my thoughts on the Tango set, I've not done a read-through so can't 
comment further.

Oh! Speaking of comments. The new Writer allows you to select a range of text 
and add a comment to it. With my Win XP set-up, on the files in which I did 
this as a reminder for when I returned to them, LO could not open them, 
returning a read error. Watch out for that. Could only be Windows.


Regards
JohnS

On 23/01/2013 14:04, PeeWee wrote:

Hello

I have just uploaded a draft copy of Version 4 of the Getting Started Guide
Chapter 1 Introducing LibreOffice to the ODF Authors website.

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.0/gs-chap-1-introducing-libreoffice/view

It is ready for review and comment.

Please note that I have used the default Tango set of icons. I will be
honest and say that this is not the best set of icons I have seen for
software. Much prefer the Galaxy set.

Regards

PeterS




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Marking up graphics

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

In the Dutch guides we use LibO green 1 and thickness 0.05 cm and do 
find it great.


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Op 28-01-13 09:10, Peter Schofield schreef:

Hello JohnS

I use light red for the colour and 0.05 cm for line thickness. This combination 
seems to work very well.

Regards

PeterS


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On 27 Jan 2013, at 19:12, John Smith wrote:


Hi everyone.

As I work on different chapters there is a noticeable feature, which to me, 
looks quite ugly.
It's the line thickness used in circles, ellipses, arrows and so on, which we 
use to mark up the graphics.
Some detract considerably from the quality of the graphic and look downright 
amateurish.
The colours used don't bother me so much.

May I suggest that we decide that lines either do, or don't, use arrow heads, 
and that line thickness for all these items is kept to 2 or 3 pixels?
Obviously I can't attach examples, as the list strips out attachments, but I'm 
sure most will have come across instances.

Regards
John Smith

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] translating the GS Guide bookmark_value

[Leo Moons]

Hello Sophie,
Yes, I would like to receive the address of your document. Not  yet sure 
whether I will start localising the help but I want to have a better 
idea of the work involved.


Many thanks
Best regards

Leo

Op 19-02-13 11:27, Sophie Gautier schreef:

Hi again,
On 19/02/2013 11:24, Sophie Gautier wrote:

Hi Tom, all,
On 19/02/2013 07:54, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

Could translation teams use ODFAuthors to work on translating the
Guides into the various different languages?


Donald had a question about the bookmark_value but i am not sure if
he is talking about The Guides or about the in-built help.  Also i am
not sure if Donald has an ODFAuthors account but if not then please
could someone give him one so he can see the folders and how they are
being used?

Just on this, bookmark_value is the tag in the help files that
indicate a string directed to the index of the help browser of the
built-in help.

And by the way, if needed, I've a document explaining the tags and what
and how that should be localized. I can send the address to whom is
interested on localizing the help.

Kind regards
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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc guide 3.3

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

As we are upgrading the translated Calc guide from 3.3, I would like to 
have a copy of the Calc guide 3.3 for OpenOffice.org. We have a 
translated version, but would like to have the English version so we can 
compare the English version with the later version so we can more easily 
spot the differences.


Can anyone send me a pointer to where the find it, preferably the 
different chapters in odt format.


Many thanks
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[libreoffice-documentation] Correction to the Getting Started Guide

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

I would propose 2 correction to the first chapter of the GS guide:
- page 7: Minimum requirements: LibreOffice 3 ... should read 
LibreOffice 4 ...
- page 13: Zoom slider and percent; I would delete and percent as 
percentage is described in next paragraph


Good luck with the good work.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Unable to log in to ODFAuthors?

[Leo Moons]

Hello Sigrid,

Could you also make the Nederlands folders visible?
In the mast I had administrator rights for the website. Can I get them back?

Many thanks
Best regards

Leo


Op 21-03-13 17:48, Sigrid Carrera schreef:

Hi Chris,

On 21 March 2013 11:09, cchnl69 cchn...@orange.fr wrote:

Hello,

I can log in, but I can't access to the LibreOffice  English folder : I
only have the Deutsch folder. Is it normal ?

No, it is not normal. In fact, I changed yesterday the workflow on the
website, and this was the result of this.
I quickly published all the language folders, so that you should be
able to see everything again.

What I did not do, was publishing the subfolders - that has every
language group now to do themselves.
First change state to internally published, once this is done,
change to externally published.

Then everyone can see those folders.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Sigrid




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[libreoffice-documentation] Cals as a simple database

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

While translating, I encountered some odd wording, but maybe my English 
is not correct. I placed the chapter in the feedback folder. You will 
find my remarks easily as changes are recorded.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cals as a simple database

[Leo Moons]

People with sufficient rights will find it here: 
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/feedback/


Best regards

Leo

Op 18-08-13 08:50, Leo Moons schreef:

Hello,

While translating, I encountered some odd wording, but maybe my 
English is not correct. I placed the chapter in the feedback folder. 
You will find my remarks easily as changes are recorded.


Many thanks for the great work you are all doing.




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Subject: Digest of annou...@documentfoundation.org issue 145 (160)

[Leo Moons]

Hi Jean,

Op 17-08-13 22:36, Jean Weber schreef:

From: announce+h...@documentfoundation.org 
announce+h...@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 17:22
Subject: Call for Papers extended until August 22
From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

Dear community,


from September 24 to 27, this year's annual LibreOffice Conference takes

place in Milano, Italy. It is the major annual event for all LibreOffice
contributors, supporters, adopters and users, and will be jointly hosted
by the Milan University together with the LibreOffice community.

We hereby announce that the Call for Papers will be extended until
August 22, and invite all of you to send in your talk proposals for the
conference.

Whether you've been developing cool and exciting features, are using
LibreOffice in your corporation, or would like to talk about the
OpenDocument format ecosystem at large, send in your talk and present it
to a large and diverse audience at LibOCon 2013!

All details to the CfP are available at
http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en/call-for-papers

Looking forward to your proposals!


I am unable to attend LibOCon this year. (The trip from Australia is
too long.) It would be very good to have someone from the Docs Team
there. Even better would be for someone to present a talk about our
work. I can put together a presentation if someone can deliver it.
It is a pity you cannot attend, but I see you are on the list of the 
speakers ;-)
I will be attending as I am lucky to live on the same side of the planet 
and travelling is not that long for me.
I have put forward a presentation about the translation of the users 
guides, so maybe I can broaden my talk and speak about documentation in 
general as well. Seen that so many speakers have enrolled, I do not 
think I can have 2 presentations.
If anybody from the Documentation team is willing to present, no problem 
for me.


Best regards


--Jean



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[libreoffice-documentation] 0305CG Using Graphics in Calc

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

I had some difficulties in bringing a graphic to foreground after I had 
put it in the background. It could not be selected by double clicking or 
any other means, except by using the Navigator. It should be good to 
have this mentioned in the guide. I have placed the chapter with the 
remark in the feedback folder:

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/feedback/0305cg-using-graphics-in-calc/view

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[libreoffice-documentation] Was; Digest of annou...@documentfoundation.org issue 145 (160) - Now Speaking on LibreOffice conference in Milan

[Leo Moons]

On 19-08-13 22:15, Jean Weber wrote:

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be wrote:

Hi Jean,

Op 17-08-13 22:36, Jean Weber schreef:


From: announce+h...@documentfoundation.org
announce+h...@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 17:22
Subject: Call for Papers extended until August 22
From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

Dear community,


from September 24 to 27, this year's annual LibreOffice Conference takes

place in Milano, Italy. It is the major annual event for all LibreOffice
contributors, supporters, adopters and users, and will be jointly hosted
by the Milan University together with the LibreOffice community.

We hereby announce that the Call for Papers will be extended until
August 22, and invite all of you to send in your talk proposals for the
conference.

Whether you've been developing cool and exciting features, are using
LibreOffice in your corporation, or would like to talk about the
OpenDocument format ecosystem at large, send in your talk and present it
to a large and diverse audience at LibOCon 2013!

All details to the CfP are available at
http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en/call-for-papers

Looking forward to your proposals!


I am unable to attend LibOCon this year. (The trip from Australia is
too long.) It would be very good to have someone from the Docs Team
there. Even better would be for someone to present a talk about our
work. I can put together a presentation if someone can deliver it.

It is a pity you cannot attend, but I see you are on the list of the
speakers ;-)
I will be attending as I am lucky to live on the same side of the planet and
travelling is not that long for me.
I have put forward a presentation about the translation of the users guides,
so maybe I can broaden my talk and speak about documentation in general as
well. Seen that so many speakers have enrolled, I do not think I can have 2
presentations.
If anybody from the Documentation team is willing to present, no problem for
me.


I think the speaker list is people registered from last year. No one
will be selected to speak this year until after the close of the CfP.

I know of one other possibility to present about Docs in general, but
if that person is not available, broadening your talk a bit would be
very good.

--Jean

I have been accepted as a speaker during the conference in Milan. I will 
talk about translating the user guides, I will also have the possibility 
to speak about the work of the documentation team in general. Please let 
me know if there are topics the documentation team would like me talk about.


Maybe it is a good idea to post me this off list ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Do you have information for this error

[Leo Moons]

Hello Wim,

Looking at your name, I guess you are Dutch speaking.
Als ik je naam lees, vermoed ik dat je Nederlandstalig bent.

Feel free to contact me direct with the error message as attachment, but 
you can also contact the Dutch speaking users mailinglist (for more 
details about mailinglists: http://nl.libreoffice.org/ondersteuning/
Je kan me contacteren via mijn privé e-mail adres, maar je kan ook de 
Nederlandstalige gebruikerslijst contacteren (voor meer details 
http://nl.libreoffice.org/ondersteuning).


Our mailinglists do not accept attachments, but you can write the text 
of the error message in your e-mail.
Onze mailinglijsten aanvaarden geen bijlages, maar je kan de tekst van 
de foutboodschap ook overnemen in je e-mail


I hope this is of some help to you.
In de hoop je een beetje geholpen te hebben.

Best regards
Vriendelijke groeten

Leo
LibreOffice/nl


Op 05-09-13 16:29, Tom Davies schreef:

Hi :)
Have you tried asking the Japanese Mailing List about this yet?

Probably the error message is about recovering the document you were last working on?  If 
so then you can cancel that and then open the saved version of the document
Regards from
Tom :)





  From: Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com
To: Spidey-Westland spidey-li...@caiway.net
Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013, 13:44
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Do you have information for this error
  


Hi Wim,

you wrote to a mailing list and your attachment has been removed.

To be able to help you, we would need the error message that you see. Also,
such a question as you had just now, is more suitable for the
users-mailinglist. (us...@global.libreoffice.org). This list here is mainly
used for coordinating the creation of user documentation.

Best regards,
Sigrid



On 5 September 2013 08:29, Spidey-Westland spidey-li...@caiway.net wrote:


Howdy,

When I start LibreOffice (4.0) Writer than pop-up an error message.error
pop-up

How can I this error repair?

Regard

Wim ter Haar

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Account...

[Leo Moons]

Hello Tom,

Although it is a late reply, the truth has its merits (if that is an 
English idiom?)


The Dutch speaking community uses ODFAuthors site to publish their 
translations and is involved both in documentation and in-built Help.


Best regards

Leo


Hi :)
I like the css method of commenting out.

I think the ODFAuthors site only deals with the English (US) versions of
the published guides.  Those are an extremely low priority for
translations teams despite the fact that the English versions generate a
small but useful income for the Documentation Team and wider community.

Translators put a much higher priority on translating the in-built help
which the Documentation Team don't get involved with at all.  The closest
'we' get is translating the Frenceplyh wiki's Faq but hopefully that might lead
to working on the in-built help's wiki.  However that part of the team is
tiny and could use any help.  Even a tiny amount of time would be a huge
help there.  Wiki-markup is much simpler than css but once you start moving
into the in-built help your skills might become more useful to the tiny
team there.  Translation teams coordinate through the
l...@global.libreoffice.org
mailing list.

Errr, i use the sarcastic quotes ' around 'we' because i don't actually do
any work in this team at all.  I just lurk here to try to liaise with other
lists, particularly the User Support Mailing List to help them learn the
best links into documentation.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 15 May 2014 20:32, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi there,


On 15 May 2014 17:38, Grettel Barrio Marshall gbar...@uci.cu wrote:


/Hi//,//
//I would help to translate, check and edit documentation.//
//How can I get an ODFAuthors account?//
//
//Thanks//.../


I have set up an account for you. You should have received an email with a
link to set your password.
Thank you for joining the team - have fun! If you have any questions, don't
hesitate to ask. :)

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] duplicated messages from the list

[Leo Moons]

Hi Milos,

I had no similar experience except Jean's yesterday's message starting 
with I failed to send this to the list. arrived 3 times in my mailbox, 
but maybe Jean can tell what happened.


Best regards

Leo
Op 31-08-14 om 07:40 schreef Milos Sramek:

Hi,

I have a problem with this mailing list: I get each message at least
twice, but sometimes even 5 times. The copies do not come together, but
over a poeriod of a few hours. I am on several TDF mailinglists, but
only this one has the problem.

Do you observe the problem too?

thanks
Milos




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Coordination, mentoring, etc

[Leo Moons]

Hello Sophie, all,

Many thanks for offering your help. We have first met in Lyon OOo 
conference in 2006 and you have been more then a helping hand to me ever 
since. I think our project and in particular the documentation team will 
benefit a lot from your help.
As translating the guides into Dutch is my major contribution to our 
LibreOffice, I cannot but welcome all help that will help us all.


Many thanks again, Sophie and look forward to continue working with you.

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Op 04-09-14 om 15:20 schreef Sophie Gautier:

Hi Jean, all,

Sorry to not have post before but I was focusing on the LibreOffice
conference and wanted to have time to read the mails of the list.
So I would like to volunteer to coordinating the work on this project.
For those who don't know me, I'm with LibreOffice since the beginning of
the project, I'm working for TDF on a paid basis as release coordinator and
administrative assistant. On my volunteer time, I used to localize the UI
and help of LibreOffice in French, do some QA, and translated some part of
the FAQ from French to English. My English is not good enough to write the
English documentation, but I quite well know all the parts of this project
to be able to help his coordination and help new comers to find their way.

Let me know if you would like me to help on this task :)
Kind regards
Sophie



On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:


IF people in this group think some coordination and/or mentoring is
needed or at least would be useful, the group needs to find someone or
several people to do that, do it consistently, and do it well.

I do a bit now and then, but I have not been doing it consistently,
have no intention of doing it consistently, and will probably be doing
even less in future. I've been saying this for months, but is anyone
listening?

If we can't find one or more volunteers to take on this sort of
responsibility, perhaps we should make a case for TDF to fund someone,
at least part time? IMO we would need to hire someone with experience
in technical communication, project management, and mentoring new team
members. Preferably someone with experience coordinating volunteers,
so they don't have inappropriate expectations of giving people
assignments and getting the work done to a schedule. (No, I'm not
looking for a job.)

I'm not at all sure that would help enough, because we would still
need people who have both the time and knowledge to do the actual
work. Our problem, AFAICT, has not been in attracting volunteers. The
problem is attracting -- and keeping -- the right volunteers: that is,
people with the time and knowledge.

BTW, I find it both encouraging and discouraging to note that the AOO
Docs group appears to have the same problems that we do.

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Request from the Dutch translation team

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

We are finishing the translation of Writer Guide and Calc Guide 3.x and 
started translating the Getting Started Guide 4.0.
As we have limited resources and do not know where to continue, we 
thought that we'd better concentrate on what users are mainly looking 
for. As it is difficult to gauge this, we thought that the sale of the 
hard-copy books could assist us and therefore we would ask if somebody 
(Jean? - I know you have limited access to internet these days, so 
please do not rush) can tell us about the number of copies which have 
been sold so far of GSG, WG and CG.


Of course, I am posting a similar question to the Dutch users mailing list.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Calc and also in other chapters in the Getting Started Guide

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

While translating chapter 5 we, the Dutch speaking community, found 
something odd: a reference is regularly made to the Calc Guide for more 
info and/or explanations. This reference is often made at the beginning 
or somewhere in the middle of a paragraph and we believe it should be 
better mentioned at the end of the paragraph as the reader is invited to 
read the Calc Guide and not continue reading the Getting Started Guide.


Would you agree? If so, I do not think there is a need to change all the 
chapters of the GSG 5.1, but it would be good to have these changes 
incorporated as from GSG 5.2.


Best regards

Leo Moons
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

I made some minor changes to Dave's proposal, which you will on the 
ODFAuthors site: 
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/proposed-covers-for-gs6.0/cover-from-dave-with-small-changes/view


Best regards

Leo


Op 24-09-17 om 12:41 schreef Dave:

Hi Leo,

The original icons are in the file I sent you.

All the icons used for the different modules were cloned from the SVG
file here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_icons_256.png
Direct link here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg

Best Regards
Dave

On 24.09.2017 11:50, Leo Moons wrote:

Hej Dave,

Could you please provide also the original files for the icons of the
various modules, as the ones for Base and Math are not 100% consistent
with the others.

Many thanks

Best regards

Leo


Op 24-09-17 om 11:30 schreef Leo Moons:

Hello Dave,

I found your proposal on the ODFAuthors site and like it very much. I
want to make some minor adjustments, but when trying to save it on my
hard disk, I get following error: Error while saving the document
LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921: No access to object. I rename it
according the ODFAuthors conventions.

Is there anything I can do to solve it, or do you have to give access
and upload a new version?

Many thanks

Best regards

Leo Moons

LibreOffice/nl


Op 16-09-17 om 16:34 schreef Dave:

On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:

On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello K-J, all

I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series


What do you think?

Kind regards
Olivier


Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:

Hi Olivier, all,
starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for
cover
design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the
way.

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers

[2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO

I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
branding in odf format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view

and in fodg format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view


I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

Dave

Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view


Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Leo Moons]

Hej Dave,

Could you please provide also the original files for the icons of the 
various modules, as the ones for Base and Math are not 100% consistent 
with the others.


Many thanks

Best regards

Leo


Op 24-09-17 om 11:30 schreef Leo Moons:

Hello Dave,

I found your proposal on the ODFAuthors site and like it very much. I 
want to make some minor adjustments, but when trying to save it on my 
hard disk, I get following error: Error while saving the document 
LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921: No access to object. I rename it 
according the ODFAuthors conventions.


Is there anything I can do to solve it, or do you have to give access 
and upload a new version?


Many thanks

Best regards

Leo Moons

LibreOffice/nl


Op 16-09-17 om 16:34 schreef Dave:

On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:

On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello K-J, all

I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series 



What do you think?

Kind regards
Olivier


Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:

Hi Olivier, all,
starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for 
cover

design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers 


[2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO

I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
branding in odf format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view 


and in fodg format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view 



I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

Dave

Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view 



Dave






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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Leo Moons]

Hello Dave,

I found your proposal on the ODFAuthors site and like it very much. I 
want to make some minor adjustments, but when trying to save it on my 
hard disk, I get following error: Error while saving the document 
LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921: No access to object. I rename it 
according the ODFAuthors conventions.


Is there anything I can do to solve it, or do you have to give access 
and upload a new version?


Many thanks

Best regards

Leo Moons

LibreOffice/nl


Op 16-09-17 om 16:34 schreef Dave:

On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:

On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello K-J, all

I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series

What do you think?

Kind regards
Olivier


Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:

Hi Olivier, all,
starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
[2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO

I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
branding in odf format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
and in fodg format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view

I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

Dave

Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view

Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Minutes of the documentation team 9/27/2017

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

I am sorry I could not make it to the meeting. Can I reply about my 
cover page in the text?



Op 28-09-17 om 09:59 schreef Olivier Hallot:

Wednesday September 27th 2017, 19:00 CET

* Presents: Olivier, Dave, Jorge

Task COMPLETED

Dave
 + Merge issues in Chap 4,
 + Completed

Olivier: took chapter 2
+ Completed

COVER PAGE

Cover page and back page (consensus by Doc team)
Proposal by Leo Moons, but:
  + The header has a wrong logo.
I thought that page icon and the LibreOffice word were two separate 
logo's which could be combined in a way I wanted and therefore included 
Documentation Team in a whole new logo. If this is not allowed, I can 
live withe original from Dave. What about to ask permission

  + The header color is not the 6.0 branding color
It is a gradient from LibreOfiice Green 0 to LibreOffice Green 3, using 
LibreOffice tool.

What about to ask permission to use my "new logo" and my colour gradient?

  + The "Documentation team" must be in the body,
  + above the Title
  + out of the logo
  + Restore logo to official
  + Keep body, icons, footer, background as is

https://goo.gl/tQqivF
AI: ask Design team for help in fixing the branding issues (olivier)
The footer is too bright for me. I am in dubio as I know it is the 
offical LibreOffice colour, which is nice for letters but not for an 
area (IMHO). I will try and come with a better idea. I am also thinking 
about including the documentation team logo with the coloured figures as 
printed on mugs and buttons. I will let you know.


Keep up the good work

Best regards

Leo


NEXT STEPS

* Blog Post on the team (olivier, pending)
Let's make a blog post on team members
+ one paragraph
 + who you are
 + interest in contributing to 6.0
 + one photograph
 + Example:
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2017/03/15/meet-the-brazilian-libreoffice-5-3-team/

* Continue revision

Chapter merge 6 (Dave)

Chapter 1 Revision (Jorge)

* Teamwork (olivier)
   + Calc topic to Paul for documenting

   + Calc topic for Jorge

NEXT MEETING: Wednesday October 4th 2017, at 19:00 Berlin Time





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Meeting Minutes for call on Wednesday Jan 10th, at 18:00 Berlin time

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

I was trying to read the notes on webchat.freenode.net, but they 
vanished after 1 minute. Is there another site where I could read them?


I am a bit puzzled which cover will be used as cover #2 got he most votes.

Thanks for your clarification.

Best regards

Leo

PS Is it an idea to have the meeting one hour later, as I rarely manage 
to be home by 18:00 hrs Berlin Time



Op 10-01-18 om 20:11 schreef Olivier Hallot:

Documentation meeting Minutes Wednesday January 10th 2018

The team had connectivity issues with Jitsi, the meeting took place in
documentation webchat in freenode.

https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#libreoffice-doc

Presents: Dave B,  Andreas K, Olivier H.

Topics:
* Book cover:
+ By consensus of the presents, book cover #1 will be used.
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Covers_60

* Delivery deadline
+ The team is targeting Valentine's Day (Feb 14th) for the release of
  the Getting Started Guide 6.0.

* Reviews
 + Dave to mail the list on the status of the chapters
 + Dave to call for more contributors
 + Olivier to contact Hazel

Meeting ends at 18:49.

Next meeting on Monday January 15, 18:00 Berlin Time




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Font in TOC

[Leo Moons]

Hej Jane,

I hope you have/had a nice trip.

We are not working in your English document from Writer 5.4, but in the 
Dutch translated document of Writer 4.2 and there I now realise, the 
font is Liberation Sans and cannot be changed to anything else. 
Therefore I think I am doing something wrong and not you ;-)


Many thanks
Safe return and best regards

Leo


Op 26-02-18 om 04:57 schreef Jean Weber:

Most, perhaps all, of the chapters are NOT connected properly to the
template in which they were originally based. And there are other things
done incorrectly. -Jean

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 14:09 Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> wrote:


Leo, I will be home from travels in 2 days. If no one has solved this
problem before then, I’ll look at the files. I finished that book in a big
hurry, and I obviously missed that!

Jean

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 09:11 Leo Moons <leomo...@libreoffice.org> wrote:


Dear Team,

We, from the Dutch speaking community, have started translating the
Writer Guide 5.4, but are having trouble in changing the font in the
TOC. While the UI clearly indicates the font is Liberation Sans (what we
want), the used font is Déjà Vu. We have been trying in numerous ways to
change the font in the profile but without success. Can anybody help us
out? You will find the file in the ODFAuthors site at

Home <https://www.odfauthors.org> / LibreOffice
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice> / Nederlands
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands> / Documenten voor
LibreOffice 5.4
<
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands/documenten-voor-libreoffice-5.4
/ Handleidingen voor Writer
<
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands/documenten-voor-libreoffice-5.4/handleidingen-voor-writer
/ Handleiding voor Writer 5.4 - klad

We encounter the same problems with other files as well.

Many thanks
Best regards

Leo


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Font in TOC

[Leo Moons]

Hej Steve,

This is the place to be: 
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands/documenten-voor-libreoffice-5.4/handleidingen-voor-writer/handleiding-voor-writer-5-4-klad/0205wg54-paginas-opmaken-basis/view


Best regards

Leo


Op 26-02-18 om 02:46 schreef Steve Edmonds:

Is this the place?
You are here: Home <https://www.odfauthors.org> / LibreOffice 
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice> / Nederlands 
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands> / Documenten voor 
LibreOffice 5.4 
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands/documenten-voor-libreoffice-5.4> 
/ Handleidingen voor Writer



 Handleidingen voor Writer

There are currently no items in this folder.

Steve

On 26/02/18 11:10, Leo Moons wrote:

Dear Team,

We, from the Dutch speaking community, have started translating the 
Writer Guide 5.4, but are having trouble in changing the font in the 
TOC. While the UI clearly indicates the font is Liberation Sans (what 
we want), the used font is Déjà Vu. We have been trying in numerous 
ways to change the font in the profile but without success. Can 
anybody help us out? You will find the file in the ODFAuthors site at


Home <https://www.odfauthors.org> / LibreOffice 
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice> / Nederlands 
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands> / Documenten voor 
LibreOffice 5.4 
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands/documenten-voor-libreoffice-5.4> 
/ Handleidingen voor Writer 
<https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/nederlands/documenten-voor-libreoffice-5.4/handleidingen-voor-writer> 
/ Handleiding voor Writer 5.4 - klad


We encounter the same problems with other files as well.

Many thanks
Best regards

Leo








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[libreoffice-documentation] Font in TOC

[Leo Moons]

Dear Team,

We, from the Dutch speaking community, have started translating the 
Writer Guide 5.4, but are having trouble in changing the font in the 
TOC. While the UI clearly indicates the font is Liberation Sans (what we 
want), the used font is Déjà Vu. We have been trying in numerous ways to 
change the font in the profile but without success. Can anybody help us 
out? You will find the file in the ODFAuthors site at


Home  / LibreOffice 
 / Nederlands 
 / Documenten voor 
LibreOffice 5.4 
 
/ Handleidingen voor Writer 
 
/ Handleiding voor Writer 5.4 - klad


We encounter the same problems with other files as well.

Many thanks
Best regards

Leo


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [GS 6.x] Cover

[Leo Moons]

Happy New year to all of you,

Before starting to rework any previous designs: what was the outcome of 
the survey?


Many thanks

Best regards

Leo


Op 02-01-18 om 18:35 schreef K-J LibreOffice:

Hi all,
after some silence about ths thread:
I provided a new version of the  GS 6.x cover, reflecting the comments 
during the voting.

Find there the pngs and the odg:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design/Front-Guide#Version_2 

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Covers_60#Suggested_Covers_for_6.0_book_edition 



If you think it will be our cover for 6.x we can start to make the 
covers for the other modules.





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Bullets

[Leo Moons]

Hej Regina and *.*,

Many thanks for your reply, I will reply in-line.

Op 28-02-18 om 11:31 schreef Regina Henschel:

Hi Leo,

How do you try to use this graphic?

I go to Format>Bullets and Numbering>Image>Add and Resize


How do you "upload it in LibreOffice>Share>Gallery>Bullets"? Of cause 
you can add an image to that gallery theme, but the associated *.sdv 
and *.thm files would actually go to your user directory, not to "share".
I saved it in LibreOffice>Share>Gallery>Bullets. Could you explain the 
meaning of *.sdv and *.thm files? What is the purpose? Where are they 
stored? How can I create them? ...


Why do you use gif format and not svg or at least png?
All files (bullets) in folder LibreOffice>Share>Gallery>Bullets have gif 
format


Kind regards
Regina

Many thanks
Best regards

Leo


Leo Moons schrieb am 28.02.2018 um 11:09:

Hello,

For remarks, tips and warnings, I have created a new bullet in Inkscape
as a *.gif file. Although I can upload it in
LibreOffice>Share>Gallery>Bullets, I fail to retrieve it when adding a
new bullet via the Bullets and Numbering dialog. A reason, I see, might
be the size: mine is about 17kB and the existing ones are between 90 and
900bytes. Is there a way to reduce the size of the gif file or a way to
have my file accepted as a bullet?

Many thanks
Best regards

Leo









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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Font in TOC

[Leo Moons]

Good day,

The file is now also visible for not logged in persons.

Best regards

Leo


Op 26-02-18 om 13:51 schreef Cor Nouws:

Steve Edmonds wrote on 26-02-18 02:46:



/ Handleidingen voor Writer

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They are, when you are logged in.





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[libreoffice-documentation] Bullets

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

For remarks, tips and warnings, I have created a new bullet in Inkscape 
as a *.gif file. Although I can upload it in 
LibreOffice>Share>Gallery>Bullets, I fail to retrieve it when adding a 
new bullet via the Bullets and Numbering dialog. A reason, I see, might 
be the size: mine is about 17kB and the existing ones are between 90 and 
900bytes. Is there a way to reduce the size of the gif file or a way to 
have my file accepted as a bullet?


Many thanks
Best regards

Leo



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Font in TOC

[Leo Moons]

Thanks a lot Cor, I will update the 2 documents which are already in the 
ODFAuthors repository.


And continue to translate the other chapters

Best regards

Leo


Op 27-02-18 om 20:06 schreef Cor Nouws:

Hi team,

Leo Moons wrote on 25-02-18 23:10:


TOC. While the UI clearly indicates the font is Liberation Sans (what we
want), the used font is Déja  Vu. We have been trying in numerous ways
to change the font in the profile but without success. Can anybody help
us out?

It turns out to be the character style Index Link.
It is not easy to find that, since when the cursor is on the Index, and
Styles and Formatting shows Character Styles, Index Link is not
highlighted..
Only in the dialog Index, tab Content, clicking on the LA / LS markers,
shows the character style name in the dropdown.

Greetings,
Cor





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] An alternative LibreOffice themed document template

[Leo Moons]

Hello Drew,

Thank you for the thumbs up. We are only a small team and good in 
translating, but not so good in writing, apart from a 12 page Writer 
manual for youngsters. So we depend upon you and others for the Dutch 
guides. We are very thankful that you all do such a wonderful job.


Just have a small look at 
https://nl.libreoffice.org/ondersteuning/documentatie/ to see what we 
have done so far. We arenow in the middle of translating the GS 6.


Take care

Best regards

Leo


Op 12-10-18 om 21:29 schreef Drew Jensen:Really, so you created a 
template for your use. Cool.

Anyway, yes I realized that LO would be be preferred wording.

I was holding off to hear from a particular person but apparently he
doesn't have as strong an opinion as I thought.. so I'll make that change
over the weekend and update all of the chapters in the draft directory.

BTW Has your team written guides/manuals in Dutch which could be translated
into English?

Best wishes,

Drew

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 3:16 PM Leo Moons  wrote:


Hello Drew and all,

I think it is a good idea to have styles again with an LO... name, as I
find a bit confusing to have the general name when using Writer for
other purposes than writing LO Guides. There might have been good
reasons why this was done, but I might have missed them as I do follow
the mailing list on an irregular basis.

In the Dutch speaking community, we have renamed the OOo styles as well
and just decided to continue doing so, at least for version 6.

Best regards

Leo


Op 05-10-18 om 18:58 schreef Drew Jensen:

Also on the subject of style templates for TDF publications I played

around

with going the opposite direction from what seemed apparent in the LO6
chapter template. Where the OOo custom styles are dropped and standard
styles with LO custom settings used.

So what I did is I took chapter 8 from the version 4.1 Calc Guide, the

only

file from the ODFAuthors site's published folder named as a feedback file
would be, and I renamed each and everyone of the OOo styles to a
Libo style.

After that I merged the changes for the default styles from the current

LO6

chapter template.

Then saved the result as LO62_Chapter_template. That file btw is

available,

for the next 7 days, from this URL
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/GM7dLjXeFdjf8po

So I can think of reasons either choice makes sense - or really I think

it

might make sense to keep two types of template files on hand. One very
specifically for a book series and one for general TDF themed
documentation.

Anyway, it was I did with some of my and a little bit of TDF resources
recently.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] An alternative LibreOffice themed document template

[Leo Moons]

Hello Drew and all,

I think it is a good idea to have styles again with an LO... name, as I 
find a bit confusing to have the general name when using Writer for 
other purposes than writing LO Guides. There might have been good 
reasons why this was done, but I might have missed them as I do follow 
the mailing list on an irregular basis.


In the Dutch speaking community, we have renamed the OOo styles as well 
and just decided to continue doing so, at least for version 6.


Best regards

Leo


Op 05-10-18 om 18:58 schreef Drew Jensen:

Also on the subject of style templates for TDF publications I played around
with going the opposite direction from what seemed apparent in the LO6
chapter template. Where the OOo custom styles are dropped and standard
styles with LO custom settings used.

So what I did is I took chapter 8 from the version 4.1 Calc Guide, the only
file from the ODFAuthors site's published folder named as a feedback file
would be, and I renamed each and everyone of the OOo styles to a
Libo style.

After that I merged the changes for the default styles from the current LO6
chapter template.

Then saved the result as LO62_Chapter_template. That file btw is available,
for the next 7 days, from this URL
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/GM7dLjXeFdjf8po

So I can think of reasons either choice makes sense - or really I think it
might make sense to keep two types of template files on hand. One very
specifically for a book series and one for general TDF themed
documentation.

Anyway, it was I did with some of my and a little bit of TDF resources
recently.

Drew




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes and fixes in Nextcloud for ODFAuthors

[Leo Moons]

Op 05-11-18 om 22:29 schreef Leo Moons:


Dear Olivier,

Can I get access as well? In the TDF world, I am also known as 
vpanter. I have created an account.


Many thanks

Kind regards

Roarrr

Leo



Op 05-11-18 om 19:36 schreef Olivier Hallot:

Hi Sophie

Em 05/11/2018 15:55, Dave Barton escreveu:

Anyone who has access to the "LibreOffice Documentation" top level
folder can create a language sub-folder. When you are in the top level
folder, click the Plus (+) sign to the right of "LibreOffice
Documentation" near the top of the window and choose "New Folder" from
the drop down menu.

I have added you to the odfauthor group, you should have the
"LibreOffice Documentation" folder in your top level of NC. Poke me if
you want to give access to other members of the FR community as well

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[libreoffice-documentation] Access to the ODFAuthor folders in Nextcloud

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Dear,

I like to get access to the ODFAuthor folders in Nextcloud. Can somebody 
arrange that for me, my username is vpanter?


Many thanks

Best regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at >>>>18:00 UTC <<<

[Leo Moons]

Hello friends,

Very sorry that I could not make it for the meeting, it was a bit of an 
emergency. Nothing serious, but I was out of reach.


Best regards

Leo


Op 15/05/19 om 14:39 schreef Olivier Hallot:

Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) !

Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC

We will use the following jitsi  meeting room

https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam

The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need
of a specific plugin.

The documentation pad for the meeting minute is

http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation

Main topics

* Google Seasons of Doc
* Calc Guide and other books
* Other topics (please add to the pad)

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GSoD'19 projects

[Leo Moons]

Dear Oishika,

Thank you for your offer to contribute to our project.

We have a meeting with the Docs team on Wednesday 15th May and I am 
suggesting herewith that we will discuss your application who and how we 
can help you.


In the meantime you can have a look at our wiki page related to GSoD: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GSoDOC/2019


Having a look at the present manuals will also help you to familiarise 
with the way we produce documentation and looking at the release notes 
page will give you an impression of what needs to be done. 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes


Let us keep in touch.

Best regards

Leo Moons

LibreOffice/nl - Belgium

Op 8/05/19 om 20:53 schreef Oishika Pradhan:

Hi,

I am Oishika Pradhan, a research student at IIIT Hyderabad, India. I am an
open source enthusiast and I use Linux as my primary operating system, so I
use quite a bit of Libre Office. Hence I would like to contribute to this
project.
I have some experience with technical documentation and I'm interested in
the project 'Update the Impress guide to release 6.x'.

Please let me know how to proceed from here.
Thanks and Regards,
Oishika Pradhan



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] A Google Season of Docs Applicant

[Leo Moons]

Dear Jenniline,

Thank you for your offer to contribute to our project. The "Getting 
Started guide" has already been updated to version 6.x. Should you 
consider in any of the other guides, pleased to hear. In the meantime I 
can inform you that we have a meeting with the Docs team on Wednesday 
15th May and I am suggesting herewith that we will discuss your 
application who and how we can help you.


In the meantime you can have a look at our wiki page related to GSoD: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GSoDOC/2019


Having a look at the present manuals will also help you to familiarise 
with the way we produce documentation and looking at the release notes 
page will give you an impression of what needs to be done. 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes


Let us keep in touch.

Best regards

Leo Moons

LibreOffice/nl - Belgium


Op 9/05/19 om 00:28 schreef Jenniline Ebai:

Hi everyone,
I am Jenniline Ebai a Google  Season of Docs applicant.
I am an open source enthusiast.
I have some experience with technical documentation.
  I have knowledge in Markdown and HTML.
and I'm interested in the project "Improve the Getting Started Guide to
release 6.x"

Please let me know how to proceed from here.
Thanks and Regards,
Jenniline



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Application for GsoD 2019

[Leo Moons]

Dear Vipul,

Thank you for your offer to contribute to our project.

We have a meeting with the Docs team on Wednesday 15th May and I am 
suggesting herewith that we will discuss your application who and how we 
can help you.


In the meantime you can have a look at our wiki page related to GSoD: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GSoDOC/2019


Having a look at the present manuals will also help you to familiarise 
with the way we produce documentation and looking at the release notes 
page will give you an impression of what needs to be done. 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes


Let us keep in touch.

Best regards

Leo Moons

Op 13/05/19 om 09:09 schreef Vipul Gupta 5-Yr IDD Mathematics & 
Computing IIT (BHU) Varanasi:

Hi,
I am Vipul Gupta, a third-year student in Mathematics and Computing Branch
of IIT BHU (Varanasi), India.
I am an open source enthusiast and have been using Libre Office quite
frequently for the past six months and want to contribute in Google Summer
of Docs 2019 projects.
I have past experience in technical writing and have done some edits on
Wikipedia. I am interested in  "Update the Math guide to release 6.x"
project.
Please let me know how to proceed further.
Thanks and Regards,
Vipul Gupta



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writing techniques

[Leo Moons]

Dear Peter,

Thanks a lot for sharing your ideas and I am pretty sure we can use 
these ideas also in other languages. Maybe you have more tips you can share?


Many thanks
Best regards

Leo Moons
LibreOffice/nl


Op 27/03/2020 om 09:23 schreef Peter Schofield:

After going through the meeting notes (which I could not attend), I though that 
it maybe a good idea to air my views about writing standards.

The following ideas come from my experience in working within Simplified 
English rules when I worked for Airbus and Ericcson.

1. Paragraphs no more the six sentences long.
2. Sentences should only contain a maximum of 20 words, with the occasional 
sentence allowed to be 25 words.
3. Never use the possessive apostrophe (for example Peter’s). Rewrite the 
sentence to remove the need for a possessive apostrophe.
4. Never use contractions of words (for example: don’t becomes do not; won’t 
becomes will not, and so on)
5. Never use Latin abbreviations (for example: etc becomes and so on; e.g. 
becomes for example; i.e. becomes that is).

There are many more rules, but the above basic rules are a good start. They are 
designed to make English text easier to translate into other languages and that 
is why it is called Simplified English.

Please let me know your opinion.

Regards
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[libreoffice-documentation] CG6400 Preface

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Dear all,

I have reviewed the chapter 0, Preface of the Calc guide, you can find 
it in the Draft folder.


Best regards

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[libreoffice-documentation] CG6401 Introducing Calc

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Dear all,

I will start reviewing Chapter 1 of the Calc Guide.

Best regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] CG6401 Introducing Calc

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Hej all,

Reviewed and placed in feedback folder.

Regards

Leo



Op 25/04/2020 om 20:58 schreef Leo Moons:


Dear all,

I will start reviewing Chapter 1 of the Calc Guide.

Best regards

Leo




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 Entering, Editing, and Formatting Data

[Leo Moons]

Hej,

I have reviewed and added some comments to this chapter.

Best regards

Leo



Op 30/04/2020 om 13:18 schreef Leo Moons:

Hej all,

I will start reviewing chapter 2 of the Calc Guide, Entering, Editing 
and Formatting Data


Best regards

Leo






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[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 4 and 5 of Calc Guide 6.4

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Dear all,

I have reviewed chapters 4 and 5 of the Calc Guide 6.4. You will find 
them in the feedback map.



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] CG6401 Introducing Calc

[Leo Moons]

Hej Steve,

I fully agree with your changes, I was not aware there was a specific 
paragraph about the direction of focus movement.


Many thanks
Best regards

Leo



Op 26/04/2020 om 12:03 schreef Stephen Fanning:

Thanks Leo.

I have accepted the changes in the Preface and Chapter 1, and both are back
in the Draft folder ready for a second reveiwer.

With regards to your comment on Chapter 1, page 15 (about changing the
direction of focus movement for the Enter key), I agree that more needed to
be said as per your comment. However I changed the wording you proposed -
please let me know if you aren't happy with what is now written.

Regards,

Steve

Regards,

Steve

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 21:28, Leo Moons  wrote:


Hej all,

Reviewed and placed in feedback folder.

Regards

Leo



Op 25/04/2020 om 20:58 schreef Leo Moons:

Dear all,

I will start reviewing Chapter 1 of the Calc Guide.

Best regards

Leo



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[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 Entering, Editing, and Formatting Data

[Leo Moons]

Hej all,

I will start reviewing chapter 2 of the Calc Guide, Entering, Editing 
and Formatting Data


Best regards

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Chapter 3

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Hej all,

Chapter 3, Charts and Graphs is ready for review in feedback folder.

Best regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide - Update and Review Process

[Leo Moons]

Dear All,

I cannot but agree to the valued proposal of Steve, but would add a 
small change to 5 (b):


(b) Author inspects proposed changes and accepts all that are acceptable,
discusses with second_/and first/_  reviewer any significant rejections or 
comments that
need resolution.

Thanks for the clear description Steve!
Best regards

Leo

Op 18/05/2020 om 14:17 schreef Stephen Fanning:

All,

To clarify my own thoughts and, hopefully, to help anybody else who wishes
to be involved, I have tried to write down the steps involved in updating
and reviewing one chapter of the Calc Guide. Please see below.

(Please note that I am not intending to define the steps involved for any
other guides!)

If anybody feels that what I have written is illogical, or not in
accordance with the Team’s agreed procedures, then please let us know
through the mailing list.

Regards,

Steve



(1) Initial update.
(a) Author copies master version of source file from relevant folder in
Nextcloud to own computer. The master version of the source file would
usually be found in the Published folder for the previous issue.
(b) Author enables recording of track changes and edits the chapter as
required.
(c) Author updates first part of file name to reflect issue of document and
adds initials and date to file name (for example,
CG6408-PivotTables-SF-09May2020).
(d) Author copies updated file to Draft folder in Nextcloud.
(e) Author amends tracking spreadsheet to reflect status of updated chapter.

(2) First review.
(a) First reviewer amends tracking spreadsheet to indicate that he / she is
performing the first review.
(b) First reviewer copies updated file from Draft folder in Nextcloud to
own computer.
(c) First reviewer enables recording of track changes and reviews file.
This may result in edits to the text to fix problems or may involve
inserting comments that need to be addressed.
(d) First reviewer adds initials and date to file name (for example,
CG6408-PivotTables-SF-LMO-16May2020).
(e) First reviewer copies updated file to Feedback folder in Nextcloud.
(f) First reviewer amends tracking spreadsheet to reflect status of updated
chapter.

(3) Responding to first review.
(a) Author copies updated file from Feedback folder in Nextcloud to own
computer.
(b) Author inspects proposed changes and accepts all that are acceptable,
discusses with first reviewer any significant rejections or comments that
need resolution.
(c) Author accepts all changes to date and returns updated file to Draft
folder in Nextcloud.
(d) Author amends tracking spreadsheet to reflect status of updated chapter.

(4) Second review.
(a) Second reviewer amends tracking spreadsheet to indicate that he / she
is performing the second review.
(b) Second reviewer copies updated file from Draft folder in Nextcloud to
own computer.
(c) Second reviewer enables recording of track changes and reviews file.
This may result in edits to the text to fix problems or may involve
inserting comments that need to be addressed.
(d) Second reviewer adds initials and date to file name (for example,
CG6408-PivotTables-SF-LMO-KK-25May2020).
(e) Second reviewer copies updated file to Feedback folder in Nextcloud.
(f) Second reviewer amends tracking spreadsheet to reflect status of
updated chapter.

(5) Publishing.
(a) Author copies updated file from Feedback folder in Nextcloud to own
computer.
(b) Author inspects proposed changes and accepts all that are acceptable,
discusses with second reviewer any significant rejections or comments that
need resolution.
(c) Author accepts all changes to date and removes all initials and dates
from the file name.
(d) Author returns updated file to Published folder in Nextcloud.
(e) Author amends tracking spreadsheet to reflect status of updated chapter.




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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Chapter 9 Data Analysis

[Leo Moons]

Dear all,

I have reviewed this chapter, but my knowledge is limited on this 
subject and therefore I invite anybody with more knowledge to review it 
also. You will find it in the feedback folder.


Best regards

Leo


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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Chapter 10

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Dear all,

I have reviewed chapter 10 and is now in feedback folder.

Best regards

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide chapter 13 & 14

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Dear All,

I have reviewed chapters 13 and 14, they are in the feedback folder.

Best regards

Leo


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] CG7001-Introduction Reviewed and in Feedback NextCloud

[Leo Moons]

Hej Steve,

When reviewing the whole book of Calc Guide 6.4, I had some general 
remarks about the figures but due to time constraint I did not pass them 
on as it could have delayed the guide too much, but now I would like to 
comment as follows:
- the figures have sometimes no border, a green border, a blue border, a 
black or grey border. I think we should look for consistency for a nicer 
appearance.
- sometimes the text in the screenshot cannot be read as texts are too 
small; this can be because the figure is too small and can be enlarged 
(beware of the resolution) or the object is too big and does not fit on 
a page and therefore the screenshot is made smaller. One could consider 
in splitting the picture or partly removing unnecessary parts.


Keep up the good work and we will be happy to translate it! FYI 13 
chapters of the Calc Guide 6.4 have already been published in Dutch!


Leo
Awarded with an Open Badge for translating LibreOffice by The Document 
Foundation



Op 1/08/2020 om 11:41 schreef Steve (GMail):

Hi Gordon,

Many thanks for your thorough first review of this chapter. I'm a 
little embarrassed that I didn't spot the erroneous description of the 
characters that can be used in sheet names!


I have processed all comments and the chapter is now back in the Draft 
folder with no tracked changes, ready for second review.


A few matters arising from your queries and suggestions:
With regards to adding the URL of the Getting Started Guide. As far as 
I’m aware we don’t tend to include cross-links like this in any of the 
guides. Bear in mind that Calc Guide, Chapter 0 includes a link to the 
English Documentation page of the LO website, where copies of all the 
guides can be found. If we include the URL for the Getting Started 
Guide in this chapter then we’d have to be consistent and include URLs 
in any of the chapters that reference other guides. There’s a lot of 
these references and I don’t think it would be advantageous to 
introduce this extra clutter.
With regards to the differences between the Save As dialog on Windows, 
Linux and macOS. I don’t think we need to expand on this because 
Chapter 0 states that there will be some differences - “Therefore, 
some illustrations will not look exactly like what you see on your 
computer display”.
With regards to providing other links about regular expressions. I 
think we have now expanded this topic so that it is covered adequately 
in the guide. For me, the purpose of our guides is not to provide 
exhaustive sets of links to other sites. I don’t think it’s a 
copyright issue but we do need to be aware that providing a link can 
be interpreted as somehow implying a recommendation. I hope we’ve now 
provided enough information for our users to get started with regex 
and hence don’t see the need for providing additional links; those 
interested can probably discover 100s of links via Google. This is 
covered by the existing text “There are numerous websites that include 
examples of regular expressions and these provide an endless source of 
inspiration and ideas to help improve your data analysis skills”.
With regards to your idea about embedding spreadsheets in the Writer 
file for this chapter. In principle of course this is possible but 
wouldn’t be very helpful for anybody using a printed copy of the 
guide! And I’m not certain how useful it would be in PDF versions of 
the document. But beyond that, I am against the idea because of the 
work involved in doing it consistently. The examples you’ve cited 
happen to be in an area of new text, written for this update. However 
throughout that Calc Guide there are many spreadsheets and spreadsheet 
fragments; I don’t think it is a worthwhile investment of our time to 
go through all chapters replacing relevant images with embedded 
spreadsheets, for very little gain. I also feel that the associated 
explanatory text (“Double click on the first box below, highlight, 
copy, and paste into your own spreadsheet to follow the example”) is 
unnecessary clutter because it isn’t hard to follow the examples just 
by reading what’s already written. I understand that some readers 
might like to try it themselves but we’re writing a guide, not a 
workbook.


Regards,

Steve

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I have finished the first review of CG7001-Introduction-SF-GB-30Jul2020,
and it is in the Feedback folder now.

Gordon Bates
berrykevin...@gmaill.com
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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: You got a custom Open Badge for translating LibreOffice!

[Leo Moons]

Hej Mike,

I am very honoured by the receipt of this badge and wish to thank The 
Document Foundation very much for the appreciation and recognition of my 
work.


Best regards

Leo


Op 31/07/2020 om 14:50 schreef Mike Saunders:

Hey Leo,

You're one of the most active LibreOffice translators, using TDF's
Weblate instance, and so today we'd like to award you with a special
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributor Guide Chapter 3: some questions

[Leo Moons]

Hej Dan,


Op 4/08/2020 om 17:57 schreef Dan Lewis:

There are two of them:

1) Several times in this chapter there is a link to another place in 
the chapter. It is followed by the following "on page x". The page 
number also links to same Set Reference. Do we really need the second 
link; do we really need to even have "on page x"?
I think both should remain; the link is meant for those reading the 
guide on an electronic device and therefore clocking on the link, brings 
the user to the right place. For those reading a hard copy, the page is 
the only reference which guides them.


2) In section, Submitting a chapter for review, the chapter is suppose 
to be uploaded to the Feedback folder. It has already been uploaded to 
the Draft folder in the section, Creating a completely new chapter 
step 3. Are we suppose to have a copy of this chapter in both folders?


Otherwise, I have almost completed my review.

Dan



Best regards

Leo


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Publishing the 6.4 Calc Guide

[Leo Moons]

Go for it Steve!

Thank you

Leo



Op 15/06/2020 om 11:52 schreef Steve (GMail):

All,

All chapters of the 6.4 Calc Guide have been updated and completed 
their first reviews. Many have also completed second reviews.


In order to move our endeavours on to the 7.0 Calc Guide, I would like 
to publish the 6.4 version as soon as possible.


There are eight chapters that still theoretically need a second 
review. However the tracking spreadsheet indicates that none of these 
chapters are currently being worked on by anybody. Also these chapters 
went through a full review cycle at 6.2 and so the risk of omitting a 
second review now doesn't seem great. Therefore I propose to start the 
process of issuing the Calc Guide ("as is") with immediate effect.


This task will require a few days effort from me, as I have not 
published one of our books before. Also I would like to enable the 
alphabetical index at the end of the book and improve it to a useful 
state.


If anybody has a problem with this approach, please advise as soon as 
possible.


Regards,

Steve




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 6.4 Calc Guide

[Leo Moons]

Hej Steve,

I will scan through the 6.4 Calc Guide. Is it possible to have the odt 
version in NextCloud, so I can make a note if necessary.


Many thanks
Best regards

Leo


Op 21/06/2020 om 22:27 schreef Steve (GMail):

All,

The 6.4 Calc Guide is, I believe, almost ready for publication. The 
PDF version is available for inspection in the relevant Published 
folder in Nextcloud (CG64-CalcGuide.pdf).


If anybody wishes to have glance at the PDF over the next 24 hours 
then feel free to do so; please email me if you spot any problems.


I am not happy with the front and back pages. These are SVG format 
images in the .ODT file but lose something in the translation to PDF. 
Is this a known effect and is there a recommended solution?


One aspect of the document has not yet been reviewed by anybody and 
that is the alphabetical index at the back. I would encourage any team 
members to inspect this and let us know your thoughts. I hope it is a 
useful addition for the intended readers of the guide but others might 
think otherwise. It is straightforward to remove it before publication 
if that proves necessary.


Finally, please could one of our experienced publishers advise me of 
the steps necessary to actually publish a guide (beyond placing all 
the files in the Published folder)?


Regards,

Steve Fanning



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 6.4 Calc Guide

[Leo Moons]

Hej Steve,

I had some remarks about some figures, but they are of lower priority 
and therefore I would suggest to take them into consideration for 
version 7. On the other hand I have some more relevant remarks, which 
you might consider:


 * both in the contents and the book: in the title of the chapter there
   is a reference to Calc or LibreOffice, which seem unnecessary to me
   as it is a guide about Calc:
 o Chapter 1: could read "Introduction" - subtitle could read
   "Using spreadsheets" (page 14)
 o Chapter 5: could read "Using Graphics" (page 183)
 o Chapter 10: could read "Linking Data" (page 334)
 o Chapter 12: could read "Macros" (page 382)
 o Chapter 14: could read "Setting up and Customizing" (page 433)
 o Appendix B: could read "Error Codes" (page 484)
 * I would keep Chapter 13 "Calc as a Simple Database" as is
 * Table 2 has an old style (page 46)
 * On page 245, there is a table without table heading and it has no style
 * If I am correct Drew's surname is Jensen and not Jenson (page 2)
 * I very much like the alphabetical index! (page 490 ...)

Thanks for the great job!

Best regards

Leo




Op 22/06/2020 om 11:01 schreef Steve (GMail):

Hi Leo,

Many thanks for helping.

In this case, would it be possible for you to email a list of any 
comments you want to raise? I have avoided editing the "big" .odt file 
(apart from the first and last few pages) to avoid introducing 
inconsistencies with the individual .odt files that we previously 
updated and reviewed.


Regards,

Steve



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Sent: 22/06/2020 08:07:38
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 6.4 Calc Guide


Hej Steve,

I will scan through the 6.4 Calc Guide. Is it possible to have the 
odt version in NextCloud, so I can make a note if necessary.


Many thanks
Best regards

Leo


Op 21/06/2020 om 22:27 schreef Steve (GMail):

All,

The 6.4 Calc Guide is, I believe, almost ready for publication. The 
PDF version is available for inspection in the relevant Published 
folder in Nextcloud (CG64-CalcGuide.pdf).


If anybody wishes to have glance at the PDF over the next 24 hours 
then feel free to do so; please email me if you spot any problems.


I am not happy with the front and back pages. These are SVG format 
images in the .ODT file but lose something in the translation to 
PDF. Is this a known effect and is there a recommended solution?


One aspect of the document has not yet been reviewed by anybody and 
that is the alphabetical index at the back. I would encourage any 
team members to inspect this and let us know your thoughts. I hope 
it is a useful addition for the intended readers of the guide but 
others might think otherwise. It is straightforward to remove it 
before publication if that proves necessary.


Finally, please could one of our experienced publishers advise me of 
the steps necessary to actually publish a guide (beyond placing all 
the files in the Published folder)?


Regards,

Steve Fanning



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Re:: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is THUSRDAY at 18:00 UTC

[Leo Moons]

dear all,
sorry, I cannot attend the meeting, but I guess the minutes will be available. 
enjoy the meeting
best regards
Leo



Op June 3, 2020 om 8:55 PM schreef Olivier Hallot 
:

> Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) !
> 
> Our documentation team meeting will take place Thursday June 4th at
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[libreoffice-documentation] First review GS7000-Preface

[Leo Moons]

Dear all,
I have given GS7000-Preface a first review.

Kind regards,

Leo

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