Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread R. Kevin Stover
Everybody should be using a Winkey to key CW. Some people will deny that keying directly from an serial port controlled by windows causes keying errors. When we ran DOS, the applications could have unfettered access to the ports. You could also easily harness the system clock and use it rather

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Ed K1EP
At 2/26/2009 08:05 AM, R. Kevin Stover wrote: Everybody should be using a Winkey to key CW. Why? Some people will deny that keying directly from an serial port controlled by windows causes keying errors. When we ran DOS, the applications could have unfettered access to the ports. You could also

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Christensen
One question for the doubters. If a winkey like device isn't necessary to send properly timed CW, why do several hardware manufacturers, Micro Ham, US Interface, Rig Expert, and nearly all general and contest logging applications support it? Just to make K1EL rich? In addition to correct CW

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
Elecrafters: About a year ago, I finally hooked up my K2 to a computer. Following the advice of several list members, I got a WinKey keyer instead of trying to run CW keying through the serial port. The WinKey is inexpensive, easy to set up with the N1MM contest program, and provides flawless

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Brian Alsop
Agree with Ed. If you need WINKEY do it, if you don't why add to complication? Many of us don't. KIS. I think it is a bit ironic that for RTTY, external TNC's have become passe in favor of direct computer decode/encode. However, for CW the direction is to the equivalent of a CW TNC-- at

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
] K3 choppy CW Agree with Ed. If you need WINKEY do it, if you don't why add to complication? Many of us don't. KIS. I think it is a bit ironic that for RTTY, external TNC's have become passe in favor of direct computer decode/encode. However, for CW the direction

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Brian Alsop wrote: I think it is a bit ironic that for RTTY, external TNC's have become passe in favor of direct computer decode/encode. Just a property of how computers handle audio. USB Sound Cards go through what are called Isochronous Transfer of USB.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:24:30 -0500, Ed K1EP wrote: Because many hams today like to buy neat gadgets, many times without understanding what they do. I key my K3 direct from my XP PC using the serial line. I run speeds in the 30+ wpm. I can achieve rates of over 200+ Q/hour, and I have a very

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:17 AM To: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:24:30 -0500, Ed K1EP wrote: Because many hams today like to buy neat gadgets, many times without understanding

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Vic K2VCO
W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: The key is a decent computer. There are many people using very old computers with minimal ram and cpu speed and they wonder why they have issues. Some people do not have days and hours to figure out why something won't work especially leading up to a contest, for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Erik N Basilier
, and I don't want to revisit the issue. 73, Erik K7TV - Original Message - From: Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com To: W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
I am a doubter and avid contester. I've had zero negative comments about my keying using simply a serial cable from a COM port direct to the K3 RS232 port. That's 8000 plus CW QSOs and who knows how many unanswered CQs and wing and a prayer repeats over the past year. Win2K and N1MM mostly,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
frequently change the software I run, and I don't want to revisit the issue. 73, Erik K7TV - Original Message - From: Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com To: W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Erik N Basilier
...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW Eric, Something to keep in mind with the WKUSB keyer, at least the one I installed two years ago, is that the driver installation can be very unforgiving. I, and others, had

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Andrew Faber
using another serial port for that function. 73,andy, ae6y - Original Message - From: Erik N Basilier ebasil...@cox.net To: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW Julius

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Erik N Basilier
Andy, Thanks for your input, it is helpful to me. Sorry if this is too much OT, but I see an additional benefit in the WinKeyer in that it lets you use paddles. I don't know how deep into contest-land I will go, but at this point it feels like cheating to use the keyboard, even though it is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Erik N Basilier
Group, I am sorry to harp on this, but it seems someone thought I was not thinking I could key the K3 directly when using N1MM. Of course one could do that. But I was assuming that running through N1MM would give me a specific benefit: Not to have to enter callsigns and exchange info twice

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Julius Fazekas
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW To: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 2:47 PM Julius, Thanks for the heads-up. I did order the USB version, and just assumed that it would not be a problem since so many people have said good

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Julius Fazekas
andrewfa...@ymail.com wrote: From: Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW To: Erik N Basilier ebasil...@cox.net, Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 2:53 PM Julius, Though we're now drifting off

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Julius Fazekas
: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW To: Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com, Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 3:20 PM Andy, Thanks for your input, it is helpful to me. Sorry if this is too much OT, but I see an additional benefit

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Richard Ferch
Erik, Yes, you can use paddles with the WinKeyer, and IMHO the big advantage of a WinKeyer for this is that the paddles are integrated with computer CW. That is, if the computer is sending CW, a touch of the paddle instantly stops outgoing computer-generated CW so you can carry on with the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-25 Thread Robert Mccormack
At ZM1A (multi-two) during the ARRL DX CW contest we received some reports of choppy CW when CT was keying via the 'Key' socket. Monitoring the signal with a K2 (dummy load in antenna socket) confirmed the reports.   CW sent using the paddle was normal. Both 'station one' K3 and 'station two' K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-25 Thread Greg - AB7R
Set the TX DLY menu item to a lower settingI found that anything below 10 worked OK. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Wed Feb 25 15:41 , Robert Mccormack sent: At ZM1A (multi-two) during the ARRL DX CW contest we received some reports of choppy CW

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-25 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:41:43 +1100 (EST), Robert Mccormack wrote: So the problem is specific to our K3s I suggest that you try the K9YC serial cable. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf The first reference consists of Power Point slides,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-25 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
get over. Ben Franklin -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Mccormack Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:42 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW At ZM1A (multi-two) during

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-25 Thread Robert Mccormack
--- On Thu, 26/2/09, Greg - AB7R a...@cablespeed.com wrote: From: Greg - AB7R a...@cablespeed.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Robert Mccormack zl1...@xtra.co.nz Received: Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:49 PM Set the TX DLY menu item to a lower settingI

[Elecraft] K3 Choppy CW

2009-02-25 Thread Ralph Parker
At ZM1A (multi-two) during the ARRL DX CW contest we received some reports of choppy CW when CT was keying via the 'Key' socket... During the same contest, I used NA under DOS in an older computer, with NA sending via a W9XT contest card. I could have sworn (actually, I did) that my weighting was