Everybody should be using a Winkey to key CW.
Some people will deny that keying directly from an serial port
controlled by windows causes keying errors. When we ran DOS, the
applications could have unfettered access to the ports. You could also
easily harness the system clock and use it rather
At 2/26/2009 08:05 AM, R. Kevin Stover wrote:
Everybody should be using a Winkey to key CW.
Why?
Some people will deny that keying directly from an serial port
controlled by windows causes keying errors. When we ran DOS, the
applications could have unfettered access to the ports. You could also
One question for the doubters. If a winkey like device isn't necessary
to send properly timed CW, why do several hardware manufacturers, Micro
Ham, US Interface, Rig Expert, and nearly all general and contest
logging applications support it? Just to make K1EL rich?
In addition to correct CW
Elecrafters:
About a year ago, I finally hooked up my K2 to a computer. Following the
advice of several list members, I got a WinKey keyer instead of trying
to run CW keying through the serial port.
The WinKey is inexpensive, easy to set up with the N1MM contest program,
and provides flawless
Agree with Ed. If you need WINKEY do it, if you don't why add to
complication?
Many of us don't. KIS.
I think it is a bit ironic that for RTTY, external TNC's have become
passe in favor of direct computer decode/encode.
However, for CW the direction is to the equivalent of a CW TNC-- at
] K3 choppy CW
Agree with Ed. If you need WINKEY do it, if you don't why add to
complication?
Many of us don't. KIS.
I think it is a bit ironic that for RTTY, external TNC's have become
passe in favor of direct computer decode/encode.
However, for CW the direction
On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:
I think it is a bit ironic that for RTTY, external TNC's have become
passe in favor of direct computer decode/encode.
Just a property of how computers handle audio.
USB Sound Cards go through what are called Isochronous Transfer of
USB.
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:24:30 -0500, Ed K1EP wrote:
Because many hams today like to buy neat gadgets, many times without
understanding what they do. I key my K3 direct from my XP PC using
the serial line. I run speeds in the 30+ wpm. I can achieve rates
of over 200+ Q/hour, and I have a very
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:17 AM
To: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:24:30 -0500, Ed K1EP wrote:
Because many hams today like to buy neat gadgets, many times without
understanding
W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
The key is a decent computer. There are many people using very old
computers with minimal ram and cpu speed and they wonder why they have
issues.
Some people do not have days and hours to figure out why something won't
work especially leading up to a contest, for
, and I don't
want to
revisit the issue.
73,
Erik K7TV
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From: Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com
To: W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote
I am a doubter and avid contester. I've had zero negative comments about my
keying using simply a serial cable from a COM port direct to the K3 RS232
port.
That's 8000 plus CW QSOs and who knows how many unanswered CQs and wing and
a prayer repeats over the past year.
Win2K and N1MM mostly,
frequently change the software I run, and I don't
want to
revisit the issue.
73,
Erik K7TV
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From: Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com
To: W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
Eric,
Something to keep in mind with the WKUSB keyer, at least the one I
installed
two years ago, is that the driver installation can be very unforgiving. I,
and others, had
using
another serial port for that function.
73,andy, ae6y
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From: Erik N Basilier ebasil...@cox.net
To: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
Julius
Andy,
Thanks for your input, it is helpful to me. Sorry if this is too much OT,
but I see an additional benefit in the WinKeyer in that it lets you use
paddles. I don't know how deep into contest-land I will go, but at this
point it feels like cheating to use the keyboard, even though it is
Group, I am sorry to harp on this, but it seems someone thought I was not
thinking I could key the K3 directly when using N1MM. Of course one could do
that. But I was assuming that running through N1MM would give me a specific
benefit: Not to have to enter callsigns and exchange info twice
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
To: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 2:47 PM
Julius,
Thanks for the heads-up. I did order the USB version, and
just assumed that it would not be a problem since so many
people have said good
andrewfa...@ymail.com wrote:
From: Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
To: Erik N Basilier ebasil...@cox.net, Julius Fazekas n2wn
phriend...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 2:53 PM
Julius,
Though we're now drifting off
: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
To: Andrew Faber andrewfa...@ymail.com, Julius Fazekas n2wn
phriend...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 3:20 PM
Andy,
Thanks for your input, it is helpful to me. Sorry if this
is too much OT, but I see an additional benefit
Erik,
Yes, you can use paddles with the WinKeyer, and IMHO the big advantage of a
WinKeyer for this is that the paddles are integrated with computer CW. That
is, if the computer is sending CW, a touch of the paddle instantly stops
outgoing computer-generated CW so you can carry on with the
At ZM1A (multi-two) during the ARRL DX CW contest we received some reports of
choppy CW when CT was keying via the 'Key' socket.
Monitoring the signal with a K2 (dummy load in antenna socket) confirmed the
reports. CW sent using the paddle was normal.
Both 'station one' K3 and 'station two' K3
Set the TX DLY menu item to a lower settingI found that anything below 10
worked OK.
-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
On Wed Feb 25 15:41 , Robert Mccormack sent:
At ZM1A (multi-two) during the ARRL DX CW contest we received some reports
of choppy CW
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:41:43 +1100 (EST), Robert Mccormack wrote:
So the problem is specific to our K3s
I suggest that you try the K9YC serial cable.
http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf
http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf
The first reference consists of Power Point slides,
get over. Ben Franklin
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
At ZM1A (multi-two) during
--- On Thu, 26/2/09, Greg - AB7R a...@cablespeed.com wrote:
From: Greg - AB7R a...@cablespeed.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Robert Mccormack zl1...@xtra.co.nz
Received: Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:49 PM
Set the TX DLY menu item to a lower settingI
At ZM1A (multi-two) during the ARRL DX CW contest we received some reports
of choppy CW when CT was keying via the 'Key' socket...
During the same contest, I used NA under DOS in an older computer, with NA
sending via a W9XT contest card.
I could have sworn (actually, I did) that my weighting was
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