[Elecraft] K2 problem: C44 at the limit

2004-07-07 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

So K2 #4355 took less than a week to complete. (I cheated. 20 years ago
I won the VICA Industrial Electronics national competition, the run-off,
and they sent me to Europe to compete for the US.) It's not the
prettiest, but it seems to work.

So the only oddity is that C44 is at one of the limits, or so it seems.
The slot is vertical, meaning the C is either maximum or minimum. L12,
L13, and C46 didn't seem to affect it.

So, anyone have any suggestions? Ignore it, parallel another cap for
testing, etc?

A friend has challenged me to make at least one contact on it before I
start installing the options. I better start working on my antennas.

--
Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte
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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna?

2004-07-07 Thread Doug Forman

Hi All,

I'm new to this list and Elecraft too - I've recently completed 
building a loaded KX1 #731.


After building and aligning the KX1 with zero problems, I connected it 
to both my 130+ ft slinky dipole strung-up in the attic of our 
single-level home (with RG8X) and also my Cushcraft MA5V vertical 
(10-12-15-17-20) up around 33 feet at the base (also with RG8X).  I was 
pleasantly surprised to hear the receiver come alive with signals on 
all three bands.  The built-in antenna tuner reports:


Slinky Dipole CliffDweller II
40m:  7055  - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.0
30m:  10107 - 1.8 Watts out, SWR 5.2 (relay chatter)
20m:  14065 - 3.0 Watts out, SWR 1.2

Cushcraft MA5V Mini Vertical
40m:  7055  - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.1
30m:  10107 - 4.3 Watts out, SWR 5.6 (relay chatter) (power out reading 
suspect)

20m:  14065 - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.0

Dummy Load (Oil-filled Can-tenna)
40m:  7055  - 2.9 Watts out, SWR 1.0
30m:  10107 - 2.3 Watts out, SWR 1.0
20m:  14065 - 2.3 Watts out, SWR 1.0

(all using Lithium Batteries)

Any thoughts regarding why the tuner has such a problem on 30m?

Wow, what a great little rig!  This is going to be fun.  Elecraft is 
certainly a class act.


72  73

Doug N7BNT

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[Elecraft] Re: Transverters

2004-07-07 Thread Martin
If you have the internal antenna tuner installed in your K2, here is a
different approach to hook up a transverter:

Use ANT 2 for the Transverters IN/OUT and set the maximum power to the
required level in the menu.

If your transverter has split connections for Input/Output, you need
the 160m/RX-Ant option.

In this case, use ANT 2 to drive the transverter and RX-Ant for the
RX-path of your transverter.
This setup worked here for 2 years now with a 50 Mhz Ten-Tec
Transverter and 2 SSB-Electronic-Transverters for 2m  70cm .


-- 
Best regards,
 Martin

K2 #2706mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[Elecraft] Re: ham gear and airports

2004-07-07 Thread Geert Jan de Groot

 I recently took a trip and did not take my KX1 because I was concerned about
 potential problems at the airports.  I would like to hear about the
 experiences of others who have traveled by plane with ham equipment.
...
 Hoping that it won't be ''confiscated'' in some european airport 
 I will pass trough. 

Over the years, before and after 911 I've travelled with lots and lots
of equipment (that included 2 pieces w/ 100 Lbs each, fully packed
with electronics, and clothes only as padding to the equipment, 
on a route Amsterdam, USA, Japan, and vice versa..)

I never had a problem, but follow these basic rules which are really
common sense:
- sharp objects should be checked in
  (so should things which can be construed as such).
  Image you want to cut something, stab something or club something,
  using your amateur radio gear. If you can find a way to do that,
  chances are that a security guy thinks the same, in that case
  check it in!)
- gear with battaries should preferrably be in the hand luggage,
  and secured against accidental power-on (so _disconnect_ and _isolate_)
  that battary. In general, think what a fire caused by short circuit
  can cause and isolate and pack properly.
- Note that some people think that lead-acid cells are not allowed
  (K2_BAT!) even though some types are approved. 
  As I can see the problem with acid gell loose in your luggage,
  I always removed those. 
- I always announce to the security guys that this is a lot of
  electronics and you probably want to inspect this.
  They seldom do. 
  By doing this, you set their expectation level, and that's good
  because you really don't want to surprize security folk.
  If they do inspect, just cooperate and explain.
- Think what a security guard might see in something,
  and pack accordingly.
  (if it can be used for stabbing, cutting, clubbing, check it!)

In general, I have found USA airports the most paranoid and underterministic,
while most European airports are thorough but have clear policies
and can be reasoned with.

Nobody is interested in confiscating your equipment as it's not
worth anything: it doesn't look like a camcorder (and don't pack it
in a camcorder bag!). People are interested in you not being able
to pull stupid stunts mid-air, or have your equipment pull
a stupid stunt on you by inadvertently switching on, catching fire
or anything.

Also, checking stuff in in foreign airports is not a big deal.
I've lost my luggage more often on flights to the USA, than
flights to developing countries in Africa.
(but USA airports, understandably, have better procedures
to file claims etc, so label your stuff over and over.)

Can we go back to the scheduled discussions on Hakko tools?

73, 
Geert Jan PE1HZG

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[Elecraft] Re: K2 problem: C44 at the limit

2004-07-07 Thread John P. Cummins, Sr.
A friend of mine had a K2 on the shelf for over 2 years.  I built it 
over the Memorial Day weekend.  3 days and 4 evenings.  It looks as good 
as the 1st one I built that took 2 months.


No formal training.

Pickett, AD4S

BBA 5/58 + $0.00 = free senior coffee at Burger King


Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:24:34 -0700 (PDT)
Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:

So K2 #4355 took less than a week to complete. (I cheated. 20 years ago
I won the VICA Industrial Electronics national competition, the run-off,
and they sent me to Europe to compete for the US.) It's not the
prettiest, but it seems to work.

BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: ham gear and airports

2004-07-07 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:32:48 +0200, Geert Jan de Groot wrote:

I never had a problem

I participate in two email lists devoted to folks who work in the pro audio 
world. 
There are more than a few stories of valuable, but harmless, tools  being  
confiscated from luggage that was subject to security inspection in the US. I 
occasionally have to travel with valuable mics and small test equipment. I 
would not 
dream of carrying it in checked luggage. The only safe alternative is to 
carrying 
valuables in your luggage is to ship them by common carrier -- FedEx, UPS, etc. 

Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Airport security

2004-07-07 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:12:27 +0100, JA Crux wrote:

Interesting. It varies from place to place. I took my K2 to ZS6, on 12/11. 

Yes. I took my FT100D through two airports last month (my K2/100 stays safe at 
home). 
No problems with security either place. At O'Hare, an inspector asked what it 
was, but 
only as a matter of curiosity.  CB radio? he asked. No, ham radio, I 
replied. Looks 
like a real nice one.  Yes, it is.  On the return trip, the crew at 
Sacramento didn't even 
notice it. 

Jim K9YC





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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Transverters

2004-07-07 Thread Don Brown
Hi

According to Elecraft this is NOT a good way to connect the transverters. The 
isolation in the KAT2 is not good enough and you will most likely be 
transmitting a small amount of 10 meter RF into your HF antenna system when 
using the transverter unless you disconnect the HF antenna. I tried this hook 
up at first and abandoned it after the information came out from Elecraft to 
not use it. The low level IF I/O on the KX60M is a much better way to connect 
the transverters.

Don Brown

KD5NDB 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:47 AM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Transverters


  If you have the internal antenna tuner installed in your K2, here is a
  different approach to hook up a transverter:

  Use ANT 2 for the Transverters IN/OUT and set the maximum power to the
  required level in the menu.

  If your transverter has split connections for Input/Output, you need
  the 160m/RX-Ant option.

  In this case, use ANT 2 to drive the transverter and RX-Ant for the
  RX-path of your transverter.
  This setup worked here for 2 years now with a 50 Mhz Ten-Tec
  Transverter and 2 SSB-Electronic-Transverters for 2m  70cm .


  -- 
  Best regards,
   Martin

  K2 #2706mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]


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[Elecraft] K1 in China?

2004-07-07 Thread Martin . Evans




Hi Guys, I have to go to mainland China on business. Any chance I may be
able to operate my K1 there? I don't know a thing about ham radio in China.

Martin
M0KWV
K1 #1534



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[Elecraft] Elecraft; K1 in China?

2004-07-07 Thread Martin . Evans




Hi folks, I am going to mainland China on Business. Any chance I would be
able to operate my K1 there?

Martin
M0KWV
K1 #1534



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Re: [Elecraft] Transverters

2004-07-07 Thread Don Brown
Hi

Make sure you are using the BNC on the right (J3) when looking at the back for 
the TX IF in and the one on the left (J2) for the RX IF out. The silk screen is 
backwards on some of the rear panels and there may be a little label over the 
original silk screen with the correct information on it. I have two early XVxxx 
and the silkscreen was backwards on both of them. You can order the correct 
label from Elecraft. Obviously the transverter will not work if the IF cables 
are reversed. This had me going in circles on one I built recently. When using 
the transverter with a single TX/RX cable J2 and J3 are connected together so 
it does not matter which one you use. But when using separate TX and RX cables 
the paths are split and J2 must be used for the RX and J3 for the TX.

The BNC tees will need to mount at a 45 degree angle and you will need to make 
up several short 3-6 inch coax jumpers to use to connect the transverter stack. 
You will also need to make a pair of BNC to RCA cables 2-3 feet to connect the 
transverter stack to the K2/XV60M

Don Brown
KD5NDB


  - Original Message - 
  From: Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:19 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Transverters


  Reflector Members and specifically: 

  Simon Lewis
  Don Brown
  Eric Swartz

  Thank you for the help on the transverters.  This evening I removed the AB 
switch and made up connectors with RCA's coming off of the 60 meter module 
option and BNC on the other end for the Transverters. but now I have a 
problem with incoming audio.  Yesterday, using the AB switch,  the incoming 
signal volume worked fine and now there is hardly and audible signal and no 
reading or just barely an S1 bar on incoming signals.  

  So maybe I jumpered something wrong or I used the wrong connection diagram or 
maybe I did not properly tune the 60 meter upgrade module when I put it in. 

  Can any of you offer some insight into where I might start my troubleshooting 
on this

  FYI :

  I am using the diagram on page 66 of the transverter manual and I used the 
jumper setting for -20 dBm(.01) to 0 dBm(1 mW) which is listed as the following 
connections:

  JP1:  1-2
  JP2:  2-3
  JP3:  1-2
  JP4:  1-2
  JP5:  2-3
  JP6   2-3

  This XV144 is deaf as can be now.. and it was not with the High RF output and 
an AB switch.  So I have missed something somewhere!  XV 50 is low audio too.


  By the way - How do you get those BNC  T-connectors to fit back there.  I had 
to use them in the vertical positon and then set the transverters on a book so 
they did not bend the wires coming out of the bottom of the T-connector when 
hooked up to the transverters.  Are you using a special BNC designed T 
connector that fits back there?  

  Thanks
  Paul 
  K8QT
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Transverters

2004-07-07 Thread Paul
Don - Martin and the reflector members,

I do not have the internal tuner.  I do have the 100 watt option and
there is the 160 meter option installed.

Hopefully,  I would like to get the method suggested by Elecraft in the
publication to work correctly.

Any ideas or suggestions as to why the reduction in the audio level?  What
may have to be changed and where do I begin my pursuit to correct it?

Thanks
Paul
K8QT


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To: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: Transverters


Hi

According to Elecraft this is NOT a good way to connect the transverters.
The isolation in the KAT2 is not good enough and you will most likely be
transmitting a small amount of 10 meter RF into your HF antenna system when
using the transverter unless you disconnect the HF antenna. I tried this
hook up at first and abandoned it after the information came out from
Elecraft to not use it. The low level IF I/O on the KX60M is a much better
way to connect the transverters.

Don Brown

KD5NDB
  - Original Message - 
  From: Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:47 AM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Transverters


  If you have the internal antenna tuner installed in your K2, here is a
  different approach to hook up a transverter:

  Use ANT 2 for the Transverters IN/OUT and set the maximum power to the
  required level in the menu.

  If your transverter has split connections for Input/Output, you need
  the 160m/RX-Ant option.

  In this case, use ANT 2 to drive the transverter and RX-Ant for the
  RX-path of your transverter.
  This setup worked here for 2 years now with a 50 Mhz Ten-Tec
  Transverter and 2 SSB-Electronic-Transverters for 2m  70cm .


  -- 
  Best regards,
   Martin

  K2 #2706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft; K1 in China?

2004-07-07 Thread Per von Zweigbergk
This link may be helpful:  
http://www.crsa.org.cn/1_eng_foriegn_station.html

2004-07-07 kl. 15.14 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:






Hi folks, I am going to mainland China on Business. Any chance I would  
be

able to operate my K1 there?

Martin
M0KWV
K1 #1534



Why not take a look at our Web site?
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[Elecraft] K2 Frequency Calibration

2004-07-07 Thread Linden, Mike (BRC-Hes)
  I've found that using the frequency calibration method in which you switch
between LSB/USB when monitoring the tone (tuning for the point at which
there is the least difference in the WWV tone between LSB and USB) on WWV at
15 or 20 MHz works very well on my Kenwood TS-930S. Given the fact that the
K2 has independent BFO settings for LSB/USB, can this method be accurately
used to check the K2's display frequency against WWV?

  Thanks, Michael N9BDF


PS  The Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Consistency Act (HR 1478)
and the Amateur Radio Spectrum Protection Act (HR 713  S. 537) are in
Congress. Please contact your Congressmen to ask for their support of these
bills! See the following ARRL link for details:
http://www.arrl.org/govrelations/ http://www.arrl.org/govrelations/ 

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[Elecraft] K2 control software

2004-07-07 Thread Able2fly
I've tried the N4PY windows s/w and like it. But that's the only one tried  
so far. Are there others worth considering? Something more designed for the K2  
rather than the Pegasus as the case with N4PY. Keyboard cw is a  requirement.
 
Thanks,
Bill  K3UJ
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RE: [Elecraft] Re: KX1 and airport security

2004-07-07 Thread al_lorona
 He got REALLY excited and began pointing at it, yelling,
 WHUT ISS DAT?, over and over as he backed away 
 from the car.  My 14 year-old son got out of the car to 
 see what he was upset over and when he tried to pick 
 it up and show the guard it was only a radio, the guard 
 got even MORE excited, screaming NO!!! LEAVE IT
 'LONE!!!.  About 5 minutes later, after finally getting 
 him calmed down, he finally, and hurriedly, motioned us 
 on through the checkpoint. Thank goodness he didn't 
 have a firearm with him.  He probably would have
 drawn it from it's holster.

Rick, this is such an amazing and incredible story. I think maybe the guard has 
seen too many James Bond films, no?

But this thread also points out that many, many people have stories like this. 
I won't even go into the time that I took my little QRP rig through LAX (years 
before 9/11), was held up going through X-ray, had my briefcase and shaving kit 
dumped out on the table, with a guard hunched over staring at my rig for 
several minutes and then finally shrugging pathetically and saying, Voices 
come out of this thing?

Nor will I recount, as I sat waiting at the gate afterward still burning over 
the incident that spilled my toothpaste-pills-allligator clips all over the 
floor, the over three minutes that it took someone to show up when a security 
door leading to the tarmac was opened and left opened as the ear-splitting 
alarm rang, without ceasing, for all of those three or four minutes. Plenty of 
time for someone to run out to the aircraft and plant a bomb and run back. They 
sure took their time responding to that. 

But a QRP rig?? Now THAT'S dangerous enough to detain someone over!!


Al  W6LX

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 control software

2004-07-07 Thread Timothy A. Raymer

http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm

There are links there to several programs that control the K2.



Tim Raymer
73 de KA0OUV


At 11:15 07/07/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've tried the N4PY windows s/w and like it. But that's the only one tried
so far. Are there others worth considering? Something more designed for 
the K2

rather than the Pegasus as the case with N4PY. Keyboard cw is a  requirement.

Thanks,
Bill  K3UJ
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Re[2]: [Elecraft] Re: Transverters

2004-07-07 Thread Martin
On Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 2:36:23 PM, Don Brown wrote:

DB Hi

DB According to Elecraft this is NOT a good way to connect the transverters. 
The isolation in the KAT2 is not good enough and you will most likely be 
transmitting a small amount of 10 meter RF into
DB your HF antenna system when using the transverter unless you disconnect the 
HF antenna. I tried this hook up at first and abandoned it after the 
information came out from Elecraft to not use it.
DB The low level IF I/O on the KX60M is a much better way to connect the 
transverters.

DB Don Brown

Don, thank you for your reply.
I somehow missed the info from elecraft.

In addition to my post, i should say: Terminate Antenna 1 with a
dummyload. No good solution either..
hum..


DB KD5NDB 
DB   - Original Message - 
DB   From: Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
DB   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
DB   Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:47 AM
DB   Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Transverters


DB   If you have the internal antenna tuner installed in your K2, here is a
DB   different approach to hook up a transverter:

DB   Use ANT 2 for the Transverters IN/OUT and set the maximum power to the
DB   required level in the menu.

DB   If your transverter has split connections for Input/Output, you need
DB   the 160m/RX-Ant option.

DB   In this case, use ANT 2 to drive the transverter and RX-Ant for the
DB   RX-path of your transverter.
DB   This setup worked here for 2 years now with a 50 Mhz Ten-Tec
DB   Transverter and 2 SSB-Electronic-Transverters for 2m  70cm .



-- 
Best regards,
 Martin

K2 #2706mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: KX1 and airport security

2004-07-07 Thread Rick Hampton
Hi, Al.

In my case, the guy was clearly only a parking attendant who was told to check 
the trunks of cars for anything unusual.  Airport security screeners before 
9/11 weren't much better and neither was their xray equipment, when they 
actually had something that worked.

For everyone, I think the take-away is that the better trained the security 
screeners, the less likely you will be to have problems.  I've got some really 
funny, off-topic, pre-9/11 stories involving ignorant screeners, x-ray 
dosimetry badges, and ionization chambers to calibrate x-ray generators.  Since 
TSA took over, I've not had ANY problems getting anything through the 
checkpoints that wasn't on the banned list.  I had to turn my HT on once to let 
them hear the squelch noise and let them rummage
through a backpack to look at a small Maglight, but that's been the total of 
the insults I've had since that awful day.

Some things should go without saying, but some people need it said anyway.  The 
screeners are only trying to do a job they feel is very important.  Treat them 
nicely and with respect.  If you're taking a bunch of electronics, plan ahead 
and take out ANYTHING that looks like it might be on the banned items list.  
Show up a little earlier so the screeners can rummage through your stuff if the 
image on the baggage scanner makes something look worrisome.  Should they ask 
any questions, answer them nicely,
offer to explain anything they don't understand, and thank them for their time 
when they clear you and all your stuff.  If, like one bozo I saw, you loose 
your cool when a screener takes away your pen-knife and you yell, Give that 
back!  It's ONLY a pen-knife!  It's NOT like it's a BOMB, or anything!!! 
expect to be ushered to a small, windowless room by six people with hands on 
their weapons, where you will wait until well AFTER your flight leaves the 
ground before you are released.

I think if you use common sense, you can take any of your radio equipment 
onboard with you without much hassle.

Rick Hampton, WD8KEL


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  He got REALLY excited and began pointing at it, yelling,
  WHUT ISS DAT?, over and over as he backed away
  from the car.  My 14 year-old son got out of the car to
  see what he was upset over and when he tried to pick
  it up and show the guard it was only a radio, the guard
  got even MORE excited, screaming NO!!! LEAVE IT
  'LONE!!!.  About 5 minutes later, after finally getting
  him calmed down, he finally, and hurriedly, motioned us
  on through the checkpoint. Thank goodness he didn't
  have a firearm with him.  He probably would have
  drawn it from it's holster.

 Rick, this is such an amazing and incredible story. I think maybe the guard 
 has seen too many James Bond films, no?

 But this thread also points out that many, many people have stories like 
 this. I won't even go into the time that I took my little QRP rig through LAX 
 (years before 9/11), was held up going through X-ray, had my briefcase and 
 shaving kit dumped out on the table, with a guard hunched over staring at my 
 rig for several minutes and then finally shrugging pathetically and saying, 
 Voices come out of this thing?

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Frequency Calibration

2004-07-07 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

Speaking of zero beating, why not get an AM receiver tuned to WWV and
zero beat the tone from the AM receiver to the SSB receiver? That way
you can get within fractions of 1 Hz and it's a lot easier than watching
a computer screen.

I found that I couldn't get the K2 spot on because of the calibration
procedure. I got it darn close, though.

On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Don Wilhelm wrote:


Michael and all,

Yes, because the K2 has independent BFO adjustments for USB and LSB you must
know that both BFOs have been properly set before you can do 'tone matching'
to determine the correct dial setting.  It IS a good method to verify that
one has achieved correct calibration, but if the dial calibration is
suspect, attempting to get it correct by matching the LSB/USB tones may
prove to be an exercise in frustration.

If you need to set WWV right on (as when using it to set the reference
oscillator with the N6KR method), I recommend using Spectrogram to view the
frequency of the transmitted tones - they will alternate between 500 and 600
Hz in alternate minutes.  See the dial calibration article on my webpage
www.qsl.net/w3fpr for more detailed information.

73,
Don W3FPR

- Original Message -


  I've found that using the frequency calibration method in which you

switch

between LSB/USB when monitoring the tone (tuning for the point at which
there is the least difference in the WWV tone between LSB and USB) on WWV

at

15 or 20 MHz works very well on my Kenwood TS-930S. Given the fact that

the

K2 has independent BFO settings for LSB/USB, can this method be accurately
used to check the K2's display frequency against WWV?

  Thanks, Michael N9BDF


--
Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Frequency Calibration

2004-07-07 Thread David M. Katinsky
I was wondering if it should be possible to tone match using the SPOT
feature on CW against a transmission from my KX1 which my frequency counter
claims is accurate...

-- 

It takes brains. It's not like forward, where you can get away with
scoring and not play defense... On defense you have to be thinking.
---Chris Chelios

David M. Katinsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 From: Hisashi T Fujinaka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
 To: Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Linden,  Mike (BRC-Hes)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Frequency Calibration
 
 Speaking of zero beating, why not get an AM receiver tuned to WWV and
 zero beat the tone from the AM receiver to the SSB receiver? That way
 you can get within fractions of 1 Hz and it's a lot easier than watching
 a computer screen.
 
 I found that I couldn't get the K2 spot on because of the calibration
 procedure. I got it darn close, though.
 
 On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
 Michael and all,
 
 Yes, because the K2 has independent BFO adjustments for USB and LSB you must
 know that both BFOs have been properly set before you can do 'tone matching'
 to determine the correct dial setting.  It IS a good method to verify that
 one has achieved correct calibration, but if the dial calibration is
 suspect, attempting to get it correct by matching the LSB/USB tones may
 prove to be an exercise in frustration.
 
 If you need to set WWV right on (as when using it to set the reference
 oscillator with the N6KR method), I recommend using Spectrogram to view the
 frequency of the transmitted tones - they will alternate between 500 and 600
 Hz in alternate minutes.  See the dial calibration article on my webpage
 www.qsl.net/w3fpr for more detailed information.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 - Original Message -
 
   I've found that using the frequency calibration method in which you
 switch
 between LSB/USB when monitoring the tone (tuning for the point at which
 there is the least difference in the WWV tone between LSB and USB) on WWV
 at
 15 or 20 MHz works very well on my Kenwood TS-930S. Given the fact that
 the
 K2 has independent BFO settings for LSB/USB, can this method be accurately
 used to check the K2's display frequency against WWV?
 
   Thanks, Michael N9BDF
 
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FW: [Elecraft] Application Note: Calibrating the K2's 4 MHz MasterOscillator

2004-07-07 Thread Sherman Banks
The below link worked for me
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2%20C22%20Adjust%20App%20Note.pdf

This one didn't...

We've just added this App note to our Builders Page at:
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2info.htm


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Re: [Elecraft] Application Note: Calibrating the K2's 4 MHz Master Oscillator

2004-07-07 Thread Lou Roux

Eric,

That URL takes me to 'Cruzio/The Internet Store' ??

Lou - W6UR



Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:

Here's a technique that allows C22 (K2 Master Oscillator Calibration 
Capacitor) on the K2 Control Board to be set to precisely to the 
correct position, with no guesswork, and no external test equipment.


We've just added this App note to our Builders Page at:
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2info.htm

Look in the 'What's New?' section.

Thanks to Tom Hammond, N0SS, for formatting the app note!

73, Eric  WA6HHQ



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[Elecraft] re: Application Note: Calibrating the K2's 4 MHz Master Oscillator

2004-07-07 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft

Correction - The last 'l' in 'html' was dropped from the original link:


http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2info.html

Eric


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[Elecraft] Queries posted from sites that need the answers authenticated

2004-07-07 Thread Stuart Rohre
Posters should disable their anti spam authentication if they want a direct
answer to their question.

A recent query resulted in my receiving a long complicated request for me to
go to web site to prove may answer was not from a machine.  The web site
took too long to come up, so I canceled the request message.  The answer can
be read on the list or not at all.  I should not have to go out of my way in
my attempt to help.
-K5KVH


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Re: [Elecraft] Application Note: Calibrating the K2's 4 MHz Master Oscillator

2004-07-07 Thread Bud Rogers
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 17:28, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
 We've just added this App note to our Builders Page at:
 http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2info.htm

The url is correct, except the file suffix is html, not htm.

73,

-- 
Bud Rogers  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KD5SZ   EM05vb  K2 #4115
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Re: [Elecraft] Application Note: Calibrating the K2's 4 MHz MasterOscillator

2004-07-07 Thread Michael Neverdosky
Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
 
 Here's a technique that allows C22 (K2 Master Oscillator Calibration
 Capacitor) on the K2 Control Board to be set to precisely to the correct
 position, with no guesswork, and no external test equipment.
 
 We've just added this App note to our Builders Page at:
 http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2info.htm
 

I think you meant;
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2info.html

Note the .html vs .htm   :-)

michael N6CHV
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Re: [Elecraft] Queries posted from sites that need the answers authenticated

2004-07-07 Thread Mike Morrow
Stuart Rohre wrote:


Posters should disable their anti spam authentication if they want a direct
answer to their question.

...I should not have to go out of my way in my attempt to help.


Why be so unreasonable, Stuart?  The other fellow is just trying to say My
time is much more valuable than yours.

How could anyone be put off by that?  :-)

73,
Mike / KK5F



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RE: [Elecraft] Queries posted from sites that need the answersauthenticated

2004-07-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I agree Stuart. Any time I try to reply to an e-mail and run into one of
those systems, I just trash it and forget it. But I never run into that on
this reflector. 

As a rule I post ONLY to the Elecraft list. After all, in 3 or so years
around the Elecraft reflector I've seen almost no questions unique to one
person, so replying direct means that a lot of readers are left hanging
without an answer unless they each ask again and again and again...

And seeing if a question has been answered helps avoid tons of duplicates.
Sometimes when I've asked a question I've gotten more the 20 or 30 answers
spread over a week, all saying the same thing. 

Once in a long while someone will mention that they can't access the list
easily and requests a direct answer. In that case, and only then, I reply
BOTH to the list and to the person. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
Posters should disable their anti spam authentication if they want a direct
answer to their question.

A recent query resulted in my receiving a long complicated request for me to
go to web site to prove may answer was not from a machine.  The web site
took too long to come up, so I canceled the request message.  The answer can
be read on the list or not at all.  I should not have to go out of my way in
my attempt to help. -K5KVH


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Frequency Calibration

2004-07-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stuart,

Yes it used to be (a long time ago).  Check the newest information at their
website.  They do transmit a 440 Hz tone at times too I guess for those
musical folks who want to calibrate their tuning forks G.

73,
Don W3FPR

- Original Message - 
From: Stuart Rohre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linden, Mike (BRC-Hes) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Don
Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Frequency Calibration


 Isn't the tone alternation of WWV between 400 and 600 Hz?  It used to be.
 -Stuart
 K5KVH






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Re: [Elecraft] Application Note: Calibrating the K2's 4 MHz MasterOscillator

2004-07-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Folks,

This IS the N6KR method that I have become so fond of (add an 'l' to the
link below).  Wayne was the originator of this method and Tom has done a
good job of documenting it.

I will still stick with my favored method of observing zero beat (looking at
the tone frequencies with Spectrogram) because it takes my ears and eyes out
of the picture and allows me to get within 3 Hz of zero beat.  I realize
that Wayne is trying to achieve a 'no added equipment required' flavor to
it, but for me, the added equipment makes it easier and more certain - YMMV.

I will be updating my webpage (www.qsl.net/w3fpr) with the link to the
document soon.

73,
Don W3FPR

- Original Message - 

 Here's a technique that allows C22 (K2 Master Oscillator Calibration
 Capacitor) on the K2 Control Board to be set to precisely to the correct
 position, with no guesswork, and no external test equipment.

 We've just added this App note to our Builders Page at:
 http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2info.htm

 Look in the 'What's New?' section.

 Thanks to Tom Hammond, N0SS, for formatting the app note!

 73, Eric  WA6HHQ


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[Elecraft] W3FPR's Fixed AF Output Kit Mounting

2004-07-07 Thread Mike Murray
I just received Don's Fixed AF kit and would like to commend him for his
work in getting it designed and put together in kit form.  It performs as
expected and will be very useful.

In trying to mount the completed board in my K2-100, I encountered a problem
that others might run into, depending on the serial number and/or shield mod
that is installed.  If you have the mod (or newer K2) that includes a shield
for the speaker, the recommended mounting position on the left side panel
will probably not work due to the decreased clearance.  I tried everywhere
along the side panel in all rotations, but could not find a spot that gave
enough clearance. The speaker shield is just a bit too big. It also projects
down far enough to preclude mounting horizontally on the RF board in that
general area. I would up mounting it on top of U1, the I/O controller, in
a horizontal position by exposing only a small section of the adhesive 
backing strip.  Don't know if that will create any problems, but seems to 
be OK so far.

73,
Mike - W0AG

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Re: [Elecraft] Queries posted from sites that need the answers authenticated

2004-07-07 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:51:49 -0500, Stuart Rohre wrote:

I use a SPAM filter. I also check my mailbox for email from people who don't 
want 
to be bothered with it, or think that they are somehow above it all.  

The answer can be read on the list or not at all.  

ALL replies to questions posted on the list ought to be posted to the list, NOT 
to the 
person posting. The exceptions would be replies of a personal nature, or stuff 
that 
is simply way off topic. 

One of the basic premises of an email list is that if one person has a 
technical 
problem, others with similar interests are likely to have a similar problem and 
be 
interested in the answer. Another good reason for posting to the list is that 
public 
answers get the benefit of peer review, while private replies don't. 

Jim Brown  K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna?

2004-07-07 Thread Doug Forman
Okay, this is a follow-up to my KX1 antenna question posted last night.  
I came home tonight and did a bunch more measurements.




First, grouped by antenna:

Cushcraft MA5V Mini Vertical
40m:  7055 - (tuner in - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.1 ) - (tuner out - 1.4 
Watts out, SWR 5.7) - MFJ-259B: SWR 7.6
30m:  10107 - (tuner in - 4.3 Watts out, SWR 5.6) - (tuner out - 6.3 
Watts out, SWR 9.9) - MFJ-259B: SWR 6.5
20m:  14065 - (tuner in - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.0 ) - (tuner out - 2.5 
Watts out, SWR 1.0) - MFJ-259B: SWR 1.1


Slinky Dipole CliffDweller II
40m:  7055 - (tuner in - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.0) - (tuner out - 2.0 
Watts out, SWR 1.3) - MFJ-259B: SWR 1.6
30m:  10107 - (tuner in - 1.8 Watts out, SWR 5.2) - (tuner out - 1.8 
Watts out, SWR 7.0) - MFJ-259B: SWR 8.4
20m:  14065 - (tuner in - 3.0 Watts out, SWR 1.2) - (tuner out - 1.4 
Watts out, SWR 8.0) - MFJ-259B: SWR 8.8


Dummy Load (Oil-filled Can-tenna)
40m:  7055 - (tuner in - 2.9 Watts out, SWR 1.0) - (tuner out - 2.2 
Watts out, SWR 1.0)
30m:  10107 - (tuner in - 2.3 Watts out, SWR 1.0) - (tuner out - 2.5 
Watts out, SWR 1.0)
20m:  14065 - (tuner in - 2.3 Watts out, SWR 1.0) - (tuner out - 2.0 
Watts out, SWR 1.0)




Second, grouped by band:

40 meters (7055)
MA5V Vertical - (tuner in - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.1 ) - (tuner out - 1.4 
Watts out, SWR 5.7) - MFJ-259B: SWR 7.6
Slinky Dipole - (tuner in - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.0) - (tuner out - 2.0 
Watts out, SWR 1.3) - MFJ-259B: SWR 1.6
Dummy Load - (tuner in - 2.9 Watts out, SWR 1.0) - (tuner out - 2.2 
Watts out, SWR 1.0)


30 meters (10107)
MA5V Vertical - (tuner in - 4.3 Watts out, SWR 5.6) - (tuner out - 6.3 
Watts out, SWR 9.9) - MFJ-259B: SWR 6.5
Slinky Dipole - (tuner in - 1.8 Watts out, SWR 5.2) - (tuner out - 1.8 
Watts out, SWR 7.0) - MFJ-259B: SWR 8.4
Dummy Load - (tuner in - 2.3 Watts out, SWR 1.0) - (tuner out - 2.5 
Watts out, SWR 1.0)


20 meters (14065)
MA5V Vertical - (tuner in - 2.1 Watts out, SWR 1.0 ) - (tuner out - 2.5 
Watts out, SWR 1.0) - MFJ-259B: SWR 1.1
Slinky Dipole - (tuner in - 3.0 Watts out, SWR 1.2) - (tuner out - 1.4 
Watts out, SWR 8.0) - MFJ-259B: SWR 8.8
Dummy Load - (tuner in - 2.3 Watts out, SWR 1.0) - (tuner out - 2.0 
Watts out, SWR 1.0)




Notes:

1.  KX1 #731 with 30m and Antenna Tuner installed, running from 
batteries only, Lithium, 8.9v indicated.  All power out and SWR 
indications from the KX1 except as noted from the MFJ-259B.


2.  SWR Analyzer is MFJ-259B

3.  MA5V Vertical is tuned for digital modes, so SWR measurements of 1.0 
and 1.1 are expected.


Observations:

1.  KX1's antenna tuner does a fantastic job matching either antenna on 
40 meters.


2.  KX1's antenna tuner does a dismal job matching either antenna on 30 
meters.


3.  KX1's antenna tuner does a fantastic job matching the slinky dipole 
on 20 meters.

   (vertical is already resonant on 20m)

I guess it's just interesting to me that the internal tuner does such a 
GREAT job matching the 135' slinky dipole on both 20 and 40 meters, but 
falls apart on 30meters.  It's also interesting to me that the internal 
tuner NICELY matches the MA5V on 40 meters (it's only a 10-20m vertical 
with a SWR of 7.6 on the antenna analyzer at 7055khz).


I appreciate the suggestions I have received so far and will check them 
out - first by adjusting the coax length by adding some to see if the 30 
meter situation improves (without negatively affecting 20/40 meters).  
Any other observations or suggestions are welcome!


72's,

Doug  N7BNT




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