Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Gerry leary via Elecraft
Hello Bob, thank you very much. I appreciate your information. I do plan to connect everything together, although I will only be able to go around half of the house. There’s nothing going on in the front of the house, including antenna, or electricity. Gerry Leary Wb6ivf On Jul 31, 2023, at

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Bob McGraw
Fred is absolutely correct on this point.  The NEC {National Electrical Code} clearly states that all driven grounds MUST be bonded to the AC mains service entrance ground.  There is NO exception to this procedure.  An exception does exist  when the structure is XX number of feet distant from

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt
Jim's slides give great examples and the msg or either keeping all connections at the same potential or completely isolated is all very good advice. Having dealt with this my entire life in industry though, there is one more thing to add. Lightning strikes are always matters of probability.

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/31/2023 2:14 PM, jerry wrote: Interesting.  Suppose the service entrance is at one end of the house, and the ham shack at the other end?  I don't think it's physically possible to provide a low inductance path that's 60 feet long, is it? I've posted a link to my tutorial, which covers

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening static

2023-07-31 Thread David Gilbert
It isn't limited to vertical antennas at all.  I once got zapped with a thick 2 inch long bright blue arc from an 80m Inverted-V that didn't have any static bleedoff.  I used to just short the shack end of the coax for that purpose, but one time I had forgotten to do that until I remembered

[Elecraft] Lightening static

2023-07-31 Thread Gmail
Static buildup is a problem mostly with vertical antennas. Wind blowing across the antenna creates static. Measure the end of the coax cable to see if there is DC connection to ground. Some of the lightening devices have static drain inductors. I think AC/DC does. Polyphasers do not. Coil “Q”

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Walter Underwood
These kinds of questions are exactly why there is an entire ARRL book on the subject. Short version, you need a system that provides both a safety ground for the AC power wiring and an RF ground for lightning protection. In 2020, both the CZU Lightning Complex and SCU Lightning Complex fires

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread jerry
Interesting. Suppose the service entrance is at one end of the house, and the ham shack at the other end? I don't think it's physically possible to provide a low inductance path that's 60 feet long, is it? Would a solution be to DC-isolate the station from the grounded antenna? Say with a

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Gerry leary via Elecraft
Hello Fred, I am getting ready to put up a hex beam. I’m going to put it on a 31 foot self supporting aluminum mast from US towers. The mast sits on a base, and the base will sit on a concrete pad. that is 4 ft.² and 6 feet deep. Would you offer me a little advice on grounding, for lightning

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Fred Jensen
Be very careful of advice regarding lightning protection.  There are some very good sources, starting with the NEC and including material from ARRL.  Some is somewhat non-intuitive.  For example, the NEC requires that any additional "earth electrodes" [aka ground rods] be bonded to the service

Re: [Elecraft] Lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Roy via Elecraft
My antenna is a broad-banded, low-Q, folded-fan vertical, low profile at just 33 ft. tall on a city lot. It covers 160m thru 6m with just a few components in its "tuner box" at feedpoint on the ground. Of course everything is directly connected to Mother Earth ground, DC wise and RF wise,

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Ken WA8JXM
Geoff, I certainly understand your "do it right" approach...the impossible: 8 ft ground rods -- I have bedrock at 36-42". When I put the tower up, I tried. I rented a heavy SDS hammer drill and, despite hours of trying, never got deeper than 5 ft. And what good is a single, shallow rod in

[Elecraft] K3 For Sale (loaded)

2023-07-31 Thread bemeier
For Sale – Original owner / non-smoking environment K3 s/n 1193 was just replaced with K4D # 1285 Includes: * KPA3 - 100w internal amp * KIO3 (Remote I/O rev C) – Serial CAT communications, digital I/O control, audio I/O for use with sound cards, dual speaker and

[Elecraft] Lightning and grounding

2023-07-31 Thread silver60
Lightning is attracted to the highest point contact on earth from a cloud passing overhead. If your tower, or tree in the yard, the chimney on your roof, or the roof itself can be the closest to the heavily charged cloud passing just overhead. When the leader from earth, tree, building or tower is

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Geoffrey Feldman
First thing and foremost - switches are mostly not relevant to protection. Energy that can travel 1000' through the sky is likely to continue across most switches. So, the utmost of safety is what you indicated you did - disconnect. By disconnect, I mean either disconnect outside the

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Yamaha CM-500 Mic?

2023-07-31 Thread George Danner
Pete, I'm using a CM500 that is a year or so old. It replaced one that finally fell apart and I was tired of gluing it back together. When I replaced the headset, I did not need to make any adjustments! I went from a K3 to a K4 with the Yamaha headset plugged into the rear connectors. My Mic gain

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Yamaha CM-500 Mic?

2023-07-31 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
My CM-500 is about 4 years old, and shedding ear-pads, but it works fine with my K3. 73, Pete N4ZR On 7/31/2023 6:52 AM, Alan Bloom wrote: I had never used my CM-500 on a K3 so I can't do that comparison. But on the K4 I had to turn on the internal mic preamp and set the mic gain all the way

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Yamaha CM-500 Mic?

2023-07-31 Thread Alan Bloom
I had never used my CM-500 on a K3 so I can't do that comparison. But on the K4 I had to turn on the internal mic preamp and set the mic gain all the way to maximum.  That seemed to give about the correct level - I could talk at normal loudness to get 5 on the ALC. I also use the CM-500 on my