Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/2 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I've found a barebones box with a D525 board in it, for $120, claims to have the lpt on the back panel already.  Needs a couple sticks of ddr2, a smallish sata drive and a dvd reader. http://www.outletpc.com/rj3658.html $120 kit $ 29 ram $ 80 500G

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 05:06:21 AM Viesturs Lācis did opine: 2012/1/2 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I've found a barebones box with a D525 board in it, for $120, claims to have the lpt on the back panel already. Needs a couple sticks of ddr2, a smallish sata drive and a dvd

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/02/2012 03:15 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Paysonm...@dawgdayz.com wrote: Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk How do you spell Solder in the US? All the videos seem to pronounce it

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 01:36 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: Hello gentlemen, the point is that the long o in solder is pronounced in US english like aw in a common process known as delabilisation or unrounding. This phenomenon is known in other languages, too, e.g. in Russian (eto is pronounced like eta).

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on it.  So ATM, the only universal boot to install method I have is to maintain a working internal optical drive

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 06:00:47 AM Viesturs Lācis did opine: 2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on it.  So ATM, the only universal boot to install method I have is to

[Emc-users] pycam

2012-01-03 Thread matthew venn
Hi all, a few weeks back I asked about turning STL files from openscad to gcode for my router. Pycam was suggested and I've been playing with that. However the wiki is pretty bare, and the mailing list and archives are pretty slim pickings too! Does anyone on the list use it regularly? Or know a

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 kqt4a...@gmail.com: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on it.  So ATM, the only universal

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/1/3 kqt4a...@gmail.com: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 January 2012 12:49, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: If I were wanting to build a new pc I would agree but I would like to improve the reliability of a decent machine I occasionally get rtai errors Will the Mesa hardware do this I have only stepper motors With Mesa/Pico cards you don't need

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 3 January 2012 12:49,  kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: If I were wanting to build a new pc I would agree but I would like to improve the reliability of a decent machine I occasionally get rtai errors Will the Mesa hardware do this I have only stepper

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread John Thornton
If you read the error carefully you will notice that you only get the error popup once per session even if you are getting millions of excessive delays... John On 1/3/2012 6:59 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/1/3 andy pughbodge...@gmail.com: On 3 January 2012 12:49,kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
Is mesanet.com the only source for the mesa hardware Richard -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 January 2012 14:30, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Is mesanet.com the only source for the mesa hardware it appears that www.cnc-ready.at no longer exists. http://www.duzi.cz/shop_cnc/ still works though. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong.

[Emc-users] .so components?

2012-01-03 Thread Spiderdab
Hi, i'm trying to setup emc2 as a simulator inside a virtualbox machine, so i can work on my gladevcp panel on my laptop. i installed 10.04 emc2 iso, then git from repos and installed JA3 branch as --enable-simulator. OK. then i tryed to compile my kins module, and copied the file .ko in the rtlib

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 3 January 2012 14:30,  kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Is mesanet.com the only source for the mesa hardware it appears that www.cnc-ready.at no longer exists. http://www.duzi.cz/shop_cnc/ still works though. Martin Duzi is their dealer in EU. If You are

[Emc-users] dum mesa questions

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, andy pugh wrote: On 3 January 2012 14:30, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Is mesanet.com the only source for the mesa hardware it appears that www.cnc-ready.at no longer exists. http://www.duzi.cz/shop_cnc/ still works though. I apologize for miss use of hal taking machine

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 13:49 +0200, Viesturs Lācis wrote: ... snip I have no idea, what is dd. dd is a Linux utility that does a direct copy from one stream to another (?). I just learned to use it to duplicate a hard drive by copying bit for bit from the original drive to the new drive. By

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:14:42 AM Viesturs Lācis did opine: 2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 06:00:47 AM Viesturs Lؤپcis did opine: 2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:00:18 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lؤپcis wrote: 2012/1/3 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:10:31 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: [...] controls and electronics of the machine are in the usual ATX PC case. What I wanted to say with all this - PC mainboard does not matter that much, but D525 has a lot of advantages, when compared to other

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Peter C. Wallace
As usual I am still quite confused If the Mesa hardware will do the critical work, step generation, why does it matter so much about the motherboard Richard I believe that without the full EPP in effect, the port has some pins that are write only, and some that read only. IIRC the

Re: [Emc-users] dum mesa questions

2012-01-03 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:02:41 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] dum

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 01:44:42 PM gene heskett did opine: http://www.directron.com/extremevalue.html I just bought one of these. Genuine Intel board, but Not fanless but 2G of ram a 250Gb HD 300 watt supply, $246 shipped. It's in Houston, he wanted some of my snow, said he was 80

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/2/2012 10:35 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: Is anyone running emc on this? How is the latency? I've tested the Intel D525MW motherboard, and put it in the database. The servo thread jitter was 15595, the base thread was 11921. That is

Re: [Emc-users] dum mesa questions

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:02:41 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

[Emc-users] Effect of isolcpus boot parameter with D510 cpu ( was Re: hal taking machine down)

2012-01-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/2/2012 11:24 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/2/2012 10:35 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: Is anyone running emc on this? How is the latency? I've tested the Intel D525MW motherboard, and put it in the database. The servo thread jitter was 15595, the base thread was 11921. That

Re: [Emc-users] Effect of isolcpus boot parameter with D510 cpu ( was Re: hal taking machine down)

2012-01-03 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:11:46PM -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: To follow up on this, I just ran 15-minute latency tests on my ASUS AT5NM10-I board first with a stock boot and then with isolcpus=1 as a boot parameter. I've posted my results in the table on the Wiki. That info is a great

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Peter Blodow wrote: Hello gentlemen, the point is that the long o in solder is pronounced in US english like aw in a common process known as delabilisation or unrounding. It is extremely rare to hear it pronounced sawder in the US, although I have heard that pronunciation once or twice.

Re: [Emc-users] dum mesa questions

2012-01-03 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:09:17 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] dum mesa questions

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:09:17 -0600 (CST) From: kqt4a...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:38:45 -0500, you wrote: On 01/02/2012 03:15 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Paysonm...@dawgdayz.com wrote: Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk How do you spell Solder in

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Peter Blodow
Jon Elson schrieb: Peter Blodow wrote: Hello gentlemen, the point is that the long o in solder is pronounced in US english like aw in a common process known as delabilisation or unrounding. It is extremely rare to hear it pronounced sawder in the US, although I have heard

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Les Newell
I have had some bad experiences with SSDs. So far in about 18 months I have killed three in my office computer and one in my network server. Three were Kingston V series and one was a Samsung. I had the same issues with all of them. Initially they worked great but after some months they

Re: [Emc-users] Effect of isolcpus boot parameter with D510 cpu ( was Re: hal taking machine down)

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 02:41:08 PM Kent A. Reed did opine: On 1/2/2012 11:24 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/2/2012 10:35 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: Is anyone running emc on this? How is the latency? I've tested the Intel D525MW motherboard, and put it in the

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/3/2012 6:36 PM, Les Newell wrote: I have had some bad experiences with SSDs. So far in about 18 months I have killed three in my office computer and one in my network server. Three were Kingston V series and one was a Samsung. I had the same issues with all of them. Initially they worked

[Emc-users] a physicist's approach to the pronunciation of solder

2012-01-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: This is an argument patterned after an old joke about mathematicians, physicists, and engineers. Theorem: All words of the form consonant-o-l-d-e-r are pronounced as older preceded by the appropriate consonant. Proof: bolder = bolder - yes colder = colder - yes folder =

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Steve Blackmore wrote: On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:38:45 -0500, you wrote: On 01/02/2012 03:15 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Paysonm...@dawgdayz.com wrote: Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations:

Re: [Emc-users] Effect of isolcpus boot parameter with D510 cpu ( was Re: hal taking machine down)

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: I put the better PSU in, but had problems getting a clean boot, and once I did get one, uptime was in minutes, 2 more times. Going to my IR thermometer because gkrellm said the hard drive was pretty warm, I noted that all the caps in the cpu supply on the mobo had tops

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread James Louis
To all, For what it's worth I have been using 4GB SATA Flash Vertical Disk On Modules (SATADOM) in my CNC mill for a couple years without a problem. It only has EMC2 and my G-code files on it. I also have been using them on other machines for a shorter time period but also without problems.

Re: [Emc-users] Effect of isolcpus boot parameter with D510 cpu ( was Re: hal taking machine down)

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 08:27:52 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: I put the better PSU in, but had problems getting a clean boot, and once I did get one, uptime was in minutes, 2 more times. Going to my IR thermometer because gkrellm said the hard drive was pretty warm, I

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 19:26 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip The jury still seems to be out on the question of SSD reliability, partly because there are so few data points compared to rotating disks. ... snip I just replaced a friend's Samsung 60GB SSD. It

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:58:17 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 19:26 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip The jury still seems to be out on the question of SSD reliability, partly because there are so few data points compared to rotating disks. ... snip I

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:33:10 PM Jon Elson did opine: Kirk Wallace wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 19:26 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip The jury still seems to be out on the question of SSD reliability, partly because there are so few data points compared to rotating

[Emc-users] pycam

2012-01-03 Thread cogoman
On 01/03/2012 07:26 AM, matthew venn wrote: Hi all, a few weeks back I asked about turning STL files from openscad to gcode for my router. Pycam was suggested and I've been playing with that. However the wiki is pretty bare, and the mailing list and archives are pretty slim pickings too! I

Re: [Emc-users] a physicist's approach to the pronunciation of solder

2012-01-03 Thread Peter Blodow
Kent, another physicist thinks that solder is derived from the french word souder which, in turn, comes from latin solidare meaning get solid, solidify. So, the l must have been missing already somehow when taken over from French in the first place. Next discussion: why did the l reappear in