I'm going to be in Amsterdam today and thus not following FFL, but I thought
I'd use my free will :-) to throw out one last set of thoughts that your
writings on the free will issue have triggered in me.
Probably because I just finished writing a short article about proprioception,
in my mind
This little poem is floating around the Internet, because someone found it and
entered it into the National Poetry Contest going on right now, and many of the
judges loved it. It's really lovely, captures the moment perfectly, and (the
kicker) was written by a first-grader:
We did the soft wind
Hi All,
I am new to this forum and it is the
first time I have joined a spiritually orientated group.
For most of my life I have kept quiet
simply because my belief's are different from those around me, so I
am hoping to meet like minded people. So here goes.
My spiritual life began when I started
of course it sounds better in "modern context" - he was able to sell it so
religious people, and it sat better with secular people too - he was a liar and
a con artist whether you like it or not
On Sat, 5/3/14, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
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Thanks this science is an extremely important addition to the data around
spirituality.
-Buck in the Dome
LEnglish5 offers:
Fred Travis' article published in the New York Academy of Sciences that
discusses the preliminary research on Cosmic Consciousness:
http://onlinelibrary.w
The fact that Harris says this "—but it may be the only course of action
available to us, given what Islamists believe" is more revealing than his
assertion that he is "against" it.
His assertion that some Islamists are extremists is true, but that obviously
does not cover all Muslims. The rel
You are an idiot.
Shikantaza (只管打坐?) is a Japanese translation of a Chinese term for zazen
introduced by Rujing, a monk of the Caodong school of Zen Buddhism. In Japan,
it is associated with the Soto school.
Sōtō Zen or the Sōtō school (曹洞宗 Sōtō-shū?) is the largest of the three
traditional s
Maharishi didn't "try" or modify anything late in life. He simply saw that the
transformation of world consciousness, for which he was more than partly
responsible, had become enough mature to be confronted with the obvious. The
long period of massaging the scientific world was over.
---In Fa
Observation, Hypothesis, Test;
Scientific Process.. .
When you get things laid out in time series of publication to look at it
becomes remarkable what Maharishi was doing all along going way back.
There was quite a lot of scientific process (advancement too) which got
specifically pr
Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris and Krauss - the Four Horsemen of the Materialist
Apocalypse!
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
D
Jesus Christ, what a little piker you are. My God, if dropping names was a
means to enlightenment, you've arrived little fella.
Between that, and your list of Bourbons, you've got the spaced covered.
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You are an idiot.
Shikantaza (只管打坐?) is
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Hast thou never heard of Daisy Cutters and other super-conventional weapons?
There's no need to advocate our going nuclear against any small country, ever.
C: So substitute daisy cutters for nuclear bombs and his actual point remains
the same. H
Unless Harris has started to refer to himself in the 3rd person (he has not)
this is a misleading attribution. Nothing here is from his book, you are
quoting people who are misrepresenting his ideas.
You are the reference guy Richard, come on man keep it tight.
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The fact that Harris says this "—but it may be the only course of action
available to us, given what Islamists believe" is more revealing than his
assertion that he is "against" it.
His assertion that some Islamists are extremists is true, but
Hey Rick,
If you follow the threads from Lawson about Sam Harris you will gain some
insight into Harris' world. In most debates and interviews he has to spend most
of this time sorting out the misunderstandings about his position caused by
people quoting people misrepresenting his ideas rather
Back in 1902, the Theosophist Leadbeater wrote Man Visible and Invisible which
covers the bases. Here's a link to the text on-line which includes lots of
colour plates but also I've copied in his interpretations of the colours below.
There are lots of groups offering courses in astral projection
> > -- wrote :
> > The fact that Harris says this "—but it may be the only course of action
> > available to us, given what Islamists believe" is more revealing than his
> > assertion that he is "against" it.
> > His assertion that some Islamists are extremists is true, but that
> > obv
How is this dropping names? I was giving you info on what Shikantaza is since
you mocked it as being some kind of "designer meditation" - it has been around
as part of Buddhist practice for centuries. I think you are taking pot shots at
it just because I like it and you don't care for me since I
Also do a google on CW Leadbeater and find that he was kicked out of the
Theosophical Society for being much to partial to teenage boys, caused a big
rift in the Society as a result, came back afterwards with a bunch of made up
bs about Maitreya that in later years another huckster Benjamin Crem
Curtis, you way overstate the case. In this country, at least, there's oodles
of criticism of biblical ideas, including ideas at the heart of Christian
belief. Ever heard of the Jesus Seminar? And a currently popular book, "How
Jesus Became God," maintains that the idea of Jesus as God developed
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Curtis, you way overstate the case. In this country, at least, there's oodles
of criticism of biblical ideas, including ideas at the heart of Christian
belief. Ever heard of the Jesus Seminar? And a currently popular book, "How
Jesus Became God,"
That was excellent, thanks.
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> > -- wrote :
> > The fact that Harris says this "—but it may be the only course of
action available to us, given what Islamists believe" is more revealing than
his assertion that he is "against" it.
> > His ass
On 5/2/2014 11:33 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
Who says I maintain attention on the mantra?
>
When you sit down to meditate, you consciously begin the mantra; when
you realize that you're not thinking the mantra, you begin it again. So,
there must be /*some*/ maintenance going on, otherwise
Actually, this distinction is pretty elementary with regard to neuroscientific
studies; it really isn't something that has just never occurred to the
researchers. Libet's studies, for example, looked directly at the apparent time
lag between decisions made on the unconscious level and when they
On 5/2/2014 11:48 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
I came up with a different way of putting it recently:
The TM class is a 4-day long koan, that is hopefully going to clarify
the nonsensical phrase "think a mantra effortlessly"
>
This reminds me of my attempt at sutra authoring:
/*1.3 "jus b reg
On 5/3/2014 12:18 AM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
> There's no need to advocate our going nuclear against any small
> country, ever.
>
Even if they had nuclear weapons and their religion specified they use
them to destroy Western civilization? How is that "smart diplomacy"
working out?
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Judy at her best, all great distinctions.
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Actually, this distinction is pretty elementary with regard to neuroscientific
studies; it really isn't something that has just never occurred to the
researchers. Libet's studies, for example, looked dir
On 5/3/2014 2:05 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
supposed neurological studies about whether we have free will link
with that phenomenon in my mind.
>
Are there any neurological studies about whether we have "free will" or
not? It seems more like a problem for philosophy or theology. Go figure.
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Barry,
Your post is on point for a few reasons. One, I am crazy about proprioceptive
exercises. My living room looks like a training camp for Cirque! Plus I have
had to spend some time in assisted living facilities for personal and
professional reasons lately so this is an up topic for me.
I a
I am happy that you have found a technique that works for you. Thanks for
explaining something about it.
But I see that you have not lost your ability to tie any comment to your usual
tirade against MMY, TMO, Bevan Morris etc.
I guess the Shikantaza form of meditation hasn't done much to
On 5/3/2014 5:10 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
he was a liar and a con artist whether you like it or not
>
Well, it's settled then. */Rick - don't even bother to shut it down./*
The discussion is over and finished. The Kung Fu fighter has spoken.
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How is this dropping names? I was giving you info on what Shikantaza is since
you mocked it as being some kind of "designer meditation" - it has been around
as part of Buddhist practice for centuries. I think you are taking pot shots at
it just
On 5/3/2014 5:13 AM, John Carter wrote:
> Things have taken off since then, but I haven't, I cannot get out of
> this decrepit body and perform an Astral Projection! I have read many
> books – analysed Monroe, Rogo, Taylor and others, but still stay
> firmly on Terra Firma.
>
Dear John - You ca
I still think you're painting with too broad a brush when you use the term
"society." Some elements of society take the position you describe, but others
do not.
And the negative reaction to criticism from atheists has a great deal to do
with its hostility quotient. Simple disagreement doesn'
On 5/3/2014 5:20 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> His assertion that some Islamists are extremists is true, but that
> obviously does not cover all Muslims. The religion of Islam has been
> hijacked by a minority of very violent and more importantly greedy
> power hungry people. Harris's belief that
Not to mention, we have no idea what the relative percentages are of TMers who
commit suicide versus those in the general population. For all we know, the
percentage of TMers could be smaller. Certainly suicidal TMers tend to draw
more attention because it's so contrary to what TM promises. But
On 5/3/2014 5:25 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> You are an idiot.
>
> Shikantaza (只管打坐?) is a Japanese translation of a Chinese term for
> zazen introduced by Rujing, a monk of the Caodong school of Zen
> Buddhism. In Japan, it is associated with the Soto school.
>
The term Shikentaza means zazen
On 5/3/2014 8:32 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Unless Harris has started to refer to himself in the 3rd person (he
> has not) this is a misleading attribution. Nothing here is from his
> book, you are quoting people who are misrepresenting his ideas.
>
> You are the reference guy Richar
Richard, I think free will is one of those areas of human existence that
benefits very much not only from philosophical input but also that of science,
in particular neuroscience. You were saying something similar about meditation
recently (-:
On Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:24 AM, Richard J. Will
Maharishi: “All don't have to meditate. Just some small percentage in society
will be enough.”[281] -1968-9 “This was borne out at the end of 1974 when it
was found that in cities where the number of meditators had reached one percent
the crime rate decreased significantly.”
Conversations with
People spending more quiet time, spent in spiritual practice, is really the
only antidote. We simply must break the materialism of the world now.
!Picturing Armageddon!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27232523
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27232523
In Los Angeles for the David Lynch Foundation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFtjU1sGBLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFtjU1sGBLo
In speaking of long term practice, I am not speaking of the 'CC' experience
which really is rather early in the spiritual experience arc. The 'CC'
experience is attested to by M and I have also heard it referred to in other
language from Zen sources, sometimes even called pure consciousness in t
you are wrong about that some aspects of the practice under certain
circumstances leads to mental and emotional instability. To say what you are
saying is to blame the victim - TM is not without side effects
On Sat, 5/3/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wro
not a tirade merely statement of facts - talk to Kyle like I suggest and see
whats what
On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM
Movement:
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c
and 60 years from the inception of TM, how is the world today? Miserable. Go
figger as RIchy likes to say
On Sat, 5/3/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Historic Meissner-like Effect [ME] of Peace:
To: FairfieldLife@
This is how to warm your body with chi for those who are living in the cold
areas of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cICNvJm6S4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cICNvJm6S4
Michael, why don't you post it. I mean, really, I'm a little burned out having
read many of the smoking gun stories that you are certain prove the point of
how bad is the TMO.
My God, the latest expose of the mold in the vent at MUM didn't quite have the
bang you might have expected.
And
Is this the same as "heads I win, tails you lose" I mean, many of your
arguments are fashioned that way I think.
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you are wrong about that some aspects of the practice under certain
circumstances leads to mental and emotional instability. To say
Who says I always end up thinking the mantra a second time?
Sometimes I realize that 20 minutes have gone by lost in thought, and that's
the end of my meditation.
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On 5/2/2014 11:33 PM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote:
Who says I main
On 5/3/2014 2:05 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
I'm going to be in Amsterdam today
>
You're going to Amsterdam with a visiting lady friend instead of
dialoging with Curtis in DC? Go figure.
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On 5/3/2014 4:45 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
Who says I always end up thinking the mantra a second time?
Sometimes I realize that 20 minutes have gone by lost in thought, and
that's the end of my meditation.
>
Not being a teacher of TM but just a common /practitioner/, I think you
have to
On 5/3/2014 3:18 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> you are wrong about that some aspects of the practice under certain
> circumstances leads to mental and emotional instability. To say what
> you are saying is to blame the victim - TM is not without side effects
>
Maybe you could explain to us how si
Notice that phrase "a second time".
Implicit in that is thinking "the mantra at least once."
And you don't have to remember to think the mantra at least once. Thinking the
mantra can be spontaneous, even from the very start.
L
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On 5/3/20
At home, in the workplace, at school. Meditating A third of a day everyday
for everyone now. The world would be so much a better place for everyone in so
many ways if people everywhere would just stop to take quiet time meditation.
People spending more quiet time, spent in effective spiritu
Former TMers enjoy claiming that TM has the same effects as all other
practices, but anyone who looks at the EEG signature of various practices
instantly realizes that such people are either speaking from ignorance (willful
or otherwise) or deliberately lying.
Here's a discussion of no-
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On 5/3/2014 3:21 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> and 60 years from the inception of TM, how is the world today?
>
If you had been doing TM for all these years things might have turned
out better.
> Miserable.
>
Maybe for you
> Go figger as RIchy likes to say
>
Now look what you've done! Thank
On 5/3/2014 6:25 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
>
> Notice that phrase "a second time".
>
>
> Implicit in that is thinking "the mantra at least once."
>
> And you don't have to remember to think the mantra at least once.
> Thinking the mantra can be spontaneous, even from the very start.
>
You have
On 5/3/2014 4:22 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
or another way of looking at it, is, "how is your world today"?
miserable?
>
Barry, when he gets back from Amsterdam, will probably scoff at this,
because his life is wonderful and fulfilling - and he does not ascribe
to the First of the
On 5/3/2014 4:24 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
And then there was the courageous student challenging the teacher
about a study. Turns out there were a few pertinent facts left out
which may have bolstered or weakened the story.
>
This reminds me of the story Barry often tells, about the g
I agree that remembering to sit down to meditate can be a challenge, but I have
spontaneously "slipped into" TM many times over the years simply by closing my
eyes while sitting. Fortunately, teh way our nervous system is set up, you
don't continue in such a spontaneous meditation for long unles
On 5/3/2014 4:25 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
Is this the same as "heads I win, tails you lose" I mean, many of
your arguments are fashioned that way I think.
>
This may have some partial truth to it, because anyone can tell that MJ
has some mental and emotional instability problems.
We went back to this place today:
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On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM
Movement:
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday,
Based on ideas that began with the work of mathematicians Benoit Mandelbrot and
John Conway, the physicist Stephen Wolfram has some interesting ideas on the
nature of free will. Wolfram has been investigating simple computational
systems that have very simple starting conditions and very simple
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/07/143285836/war-and-violence-on-the-decline-in-modern-times
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/07/143285836/war-and-violence-on-the-decline-in-modern-times
http://www.wanttoknow.info/g/violent_crime_rates_reduction
http://www.wanttoknow.info/g/violent_crime_rates_reduction
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On 5/3/2014 2:05 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
I'm going to be in Amsterdam today >
You're going to Amsterdam with a visiting lady friend instead of dialoging
with Curtis in DC? Go figure.
Bawee is very proud of the fact that it is a ladeee that
http://www.permanentpeace.org/evidence/index.html
http://www.permanentpeace.org/evidence/index.html
By all accounts MJ was a very conscientious baker. I suspect that his leaving
left a void in the operation for a spell.
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On 5/3/2014 4:25 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote:
Is this the same as "heads I win, tails you lose" I me
Lawson, was this a tangential reply to me? I am not a former TMer, I still
practice TM. Do you know of any research that compares the EEG of TMers in
unity and say, Buddhists who are in unity? Since both these traditions have
produced people with the unity experience, and they express themselves
On 5/3/2014 9:16 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
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On 5/3/2014 2:05 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
I'm going to be in Amsterdam today
>
You're going to Amsterdam with a visiting lady friend instead of
dialoging with Curtis in DC? Go figure.
Bawe
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well, I feel a compulsion to comment on things that I think are skewed. plus,
and really, I don't mean to burst your bubble, so, I will try to whisper it,
but you invited me to follow up on something you posted!
This is making me laugh. Fo
Yep, ".the findings have been consistent across a large number of replications.
As unlikely as the premise may sound, I think we have to take these studies
seriously.” Ted Robert Gurr, PhD
Emeritus Professor of Government and Politics
University of Maryland
Permanent Peace: What's the Evi
Before a meeting with scientists in Seelisberg Maharishi was asked; Who is the
most important person here now. Maharishi replied: "the cook"
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On 5/3/2014 4:25 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote:
Is this the same as "heads I win, t
Eckhart Tolle does not practice meditation, in fact he claims that meditation
can be a hindrance to awakening.
On Sun, 5/4/14, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: American Buddhists celebrate "no self"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogro
The evidence that belies this crap the Movement puts out are the actual wars
that exist all over the globe, the murders and rapes that take place in the
heart of the Movement in Fairfield, a purusha man committing suicide by setting
himself on fire in the basement of Marshy's home in Vlodrop, an
From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 5:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: One last set of thoughts for Curtis
Have a great time in Amsterdam where your free choices will be challenged by a
cornucopia of delights. Can we predic
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